RALO PART 5: JAIL HOUSE SNITCHES

Tales From The Jails Host sat down with Ralo from Atlanta. Ralo addresses the snitch allegations and how his relationships with other rappers have been compromised. Ralo addresses the new goals of rebuilding his neighborhood. Ralo speaks about his life as a Muslim and how he decided to build a masjid.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:22

So what's the difference between I know you said you did county time and you did you do state time too? Right. What's the big cause a lot of people don't really understand the feds and the state is totally different. Right.

SPEAKER_00 0:34

Well they don't they don't even know that the feds and the state is totally different. That's why I try to, we try to put it out there and bring like if you're playing in them big leads, as my man was right here, because you got big leads, you got you got lower level dealers, you got when I got locked up, I was a lower level dealer. I wasn't in no big lead or like that when I was in the streets, you know, four and a half amps or whatever I might have had, whatever. That's nothing. And they sent me to the moon for 120 months. We get with you. You know, no money for a moon. It was uh what I got indicted, uh 2000.

SPEAKER_01 1:04

Yeah, it's crack with a crack cracker still.

SPEAKER_00 1:06

Yeah, so uh what you got out of Johnson?

SPEAKER_01 1:08

What you got out of?

SPEAKER_00 1:09

I got uh uh uh the uh Trump. I was supposed to come home in 2029. Trump let me come home 2001.

SPEAKER_02 1:16

Niggas don't even know about Trump, man.

SPEAKER_00 1:17

Yeah, Trump passed the law, the 18 to 1 ratio. 18 to 1 ratio.

SPEAKER_02 1:22

Trump got me out.

SPEAKER_00 1:23

If it wasn't for Trump signing off on that bill, I'd have still been in there right now.

SPEAKER_01 1:27

But didn't they say Obama did it?

SPEAKER_00 1:29

They said Obama put it in, but it it Obama put it into motion, and then when Trump got in office, he seen it and was like and signed off on it. But regardless.

SPEAKER_02 1:38

Let me tell you one thing, man. A nigga can say what they want to say, man. I bow witness to looking at CNN China and seeing Trump beg Mitch McConnell to bring the first up act to the flow. I seen that with my own eyes, and I was like, damn Trump begging for Mitch McConnell to bring the first up act to the floor for a vote. And Mitch McConnell came on that bill the next day and said, I'ma do as if the president said, and I'm gonna bring the bill to the flow. And he brought that bill to the flow and it got passed, and all these niggas got out of jail. So um I I wasn't in prison when when um Barack Obama would die, but I seen with my own eyes how many people got out of jail for Trump.

SPEAKER_01 2:28

And that's why you was incarcerated. What was they saying?

SPEAKER_02 2:31

Niggas love Trump behind the wall. In the Feds, see, we talking to some people, because we we talking for niggas that ain't never getting out right now. Like, niggas in the feds ain't getting out of jail, bro. You know what I mean? By the time they get out of jail, they got 10s, 15s, 20s, 30s, 40s, and they they ain't getting out of jail. And at the point, like they ain't even gonna be able to see this podcast. Unless they in a low or they in a camp, or less they in a medium where some phones at, because most pens don't even have phones.

SPEAKER_00 3:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:03

You smell me. So like we vouching for niggas that ain't even gonna be able to say yeah or I love them right. So because, like, no matter what we say right now, niggas don't even know what's going on in their face. Like, nigga, they these folks sending you the big sand, they sending you to these mountains, they sending you to Hazleton and Cumberland where these crackers will beat your ass. Call you nigga, tell you put your finger in your ass and make sure not no contraband. Imagine a man bending over, opening his ass cheese. Uh and they and he calling you a nigga. You you on a book so bad, but they'll beat your ass. Did they kill you?

SPEAKER_00 3:45

They'll kill you.

SPEAKER_02 3:46

They'll kill you, they'll put you on SIS investigation to kill you.

SPEAKER_00 3:49

You have absolutely no win.

SPEAKER_02 3:51

So we talking to them to the masses that don't even know. No matter what we say here, you ain't gonna understand what we saying unless you get on that motherfucking con that plane and get in that motherfucking uh in that jail and and see them crackers spit that motherfucking tobacco out of their mouth and and tell you, nigga, go in your room. I don't give a fuck. You can't call no mama, mama can't help you. Nobody can help you. Nobody can help you. You gonna be in some shit where every level of the employment and supervisions and supervisors and staff members are all racist and against you. I give a fuck about you, nigga.

SPEAKER_00 4:31

To piggyback off, you said Rallo, because you've been in state and feds. Which one is more more firm?

SPEAKER_02 4:39

The feds gonna make you out of man. The state gonna have you on some little boy shit.

SPEAKER_00 4:44

How you come back to jail again?

SPEAKER_02 4:46

Over and over. Because you in your state. You able to see niggas. Hey, what's up, boy? You go to the feds, you might you might not even know a nigga. You like you from Philly? You for real? What part of this nigga? This nigga might be two hours away from where you live at, but you so happy that he's just from Philly. You know how hard it because you got 33% white, 33% Hispanic, 33% black. So you looking at 66% of people you might not even know from a can of paint. Yeah. And the 33, they done picked us, hand picked, and you got DC got a car, then these people got a call. You might have five niggas in your car.

SPEAKER_00 5:21

Yep. All depends on when you land at. Dang.

SPEAKER_02 5:25

Oh, oh, niggas like me, they gonna send me way out of. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, you gonna go to a yard where niggas been there 10 years, 15 years, 20 years, before you even had your little run or you don't ran up, you some money, but these niggas been in jail. They don't know nothing about that. He getting old, he done lost his mama, he done lost his daddy. So, like, you gonna go to a place where you don't even matter. You can be important like a motherfucker from where you from. You could be the man in your hood, your city, but nigga, don't they don't know about your city, they don't know where you from, they don't know nothing.

SPEAKER_00 6:02

They don't care nothing about it.

SPEAKER_02 6:03

They don't care nothing about none of that.

SPEAKER_01 6:05

Wow. And then now you said you got your sentence um in the Fez. You was like happy to get that eight years.

SPEAKER_00 6:13

You escaped. Right. I try to tell people, right, Rilo?

SPEAKER_02 6:16

Look at my guy here right here. That's the nigga who I would tell you about right now.

SPEAKER_00 6:18

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 6:19

What's up? What are you saying about?

SPEAKER_00 6:21

I try to uh tell people, right, Rilo? Like a lot of dudes will be coming back from court and you'll see the excitement in their face. You be like, what would they give you? You know he was going there for sentences. He be like, boy, they give me 12 years, thank you. And 12 years is a long time in jail to do. But they the they giving out so much time over there that 12 years is like 12 months, man.

SPEAKER_02 6:42

12 years, nigga. That's like that's like the best. Man, 12 years. Tell them, tell them, brother. You like, thank you, God, thank you, man. 30. 25. They're gonna tell you so many months, you're gonna get to calculate how many months is that? What what what is 180 months? What is 320 months?

SPEAKER_00 7:03

Like, they gave me 420 months. I didn't know what that was for three days.

SPEAKER_02 7:08

It sounds like we laughing now, but this shit real super real and it's going on, it's still going on. They gonna they're gonna write in our in our comments and say we capping about this shit we talking about wallahi, wallahi, wallahi, wallahi, walah, it's a month of Ramadan. Boy, now lie was told. Now you can you can go with everything that I have said from the police reports of me shoot motherfuckers to the police reports of me getting indicted by the feds, from the police reports of me getting locked up, from these sentencing motherfucking places that look like a timetable sheet, but look like a multiplication sheet. All of this shit is public record. You can go look up all this stuff.

SPEAKER_01 7:49

So you so you you get to the feds. Like, what was the um the first thing you saw that was like, yo, this drive? Oh, like it like it like blew your mind and had you like, oh, like this whole different ball game.

SPEAKER_02 8:02

The first thing I seen was a gangster, a nigga that, you know, he was from DC. He had five murder cases, had a little money, kept himself sharp, you know how we iron our clothes, keep his haircut, right? Real gangster, had a little money, man of status. He was taking out the trash for a fucking police officer. Fucked me up. Like, you putting all this work in these streets, and now you working to take a nigga trash out. That shit fucked me up. I seen Vic, the one of the um, one of the old head mafia bosses, he had like 40 bodies, he had he had life. Victor. Mr. Vic. He was on the Kane old man, gangster, straight gangster. He was in a room with a rat. Or the nigga that told on some people. And there was a guy that killed several rats, or was accused of killing several rats. And now he got to land in bed with what he gonna do? He's gonna fight him? He can't fight him, he's 70 or something years old. It's a young man. Young man beat your old ass in here. You see what I mean? So like these type of shit is what put me in a mind state. Cause you know, if you're in state, they they they they they they worship the old Gs that made some money in the streets. And the feds, they don't care.

SPEAKER_00 9:34

They don't get new to their knock you out.

SPEAKER_02 9:36

I give a fuck about none of that type time. So like that made me notice, like, oh, this shit ain't for me. This ain't this how how Vicky is in here, I don't want to be him. Or I ain't wanna be the gangster nigga that was taking out the trash for the office. I don't mean to down talk, no nigga. I ain't talking down on no man. That's just some shit like nigga, you putting all that work out here on these streets, and now you got all that time and you gotta take the trash out.

SPEAKER_00 10:03

And this is what you reduce to.

SPEAKER_02 10:05

Yeah, man, that shit seems so degrading to me, man. Like, ain't no way in the hell a man of honor and that status we should, and then this the only way he's gonna be able to come out that room, cause we on lockdown. And right now he Michael Joint, he shooting. Like, nigga, he able to scale stuff up on our doors. He able to send notes and cards and give us food from other niggas' sales and drugs, and you know what I'm saying? Like, he doing his motherfucking thing, but how the fuck is the elite job working for a police officer?

SPEAKER_00 10:37

That's the elite job.

SPEAKER_02 10:38

And then you gotta think about it. Most niggas that you see doing that out there working for SIS, working for the police, like telling this shit. You see what I mean? So, like, I ain't putting that on him, of course. That had been said, but really don't give you them jobs like that unless you get on some type of information. Wow. So you'll have niggas out here that kept a gangster, didn't get no 5K one, didn't rat, didn't take the stand on no nigga, kept it all the way silent, went to jail, and now he'll snitch. But he ain't even snitch on his case. He a jailhouse snitch. He a jailhouse snitch.

SPEAKER_00 11:13

He's talking about who got the cigarettes, who got the weed, who making the wine, who's stealing the chicken out the kitchen. He turned on everything jail-related that they coming, that you see in them busting cells two o'clock in the morning.

SPEAKER_02 11:24

You like, damn, how they know about bull. Nah, for real. What he's saying is right. And what I'm saying is right, like Absolutely. Real, real, real, real deal. Dudes, man, real killers, real gangsters, real nigga that's stood on business. And bro, that shit ain't all what that way. You can't really, this shit out here, you can't really, you can't really goddamn this shit out here can't move me no more because I seen that. Yeah. And without me seeing that, I probably would have still been that same little boy.