RALO PART 6: SPEAKS ON RECIEVING A LIGHT SENTENCE AND SNITCH ALLEGATIONS

Tales From The Jails Host sat down with Ralo from Atlanta. Ralo addresses the snitch allegations and how his relationships with other rappers have been compromised. Ralo addresses the new goals of rebuilding his neighborhood. Ralo speaks about his life as a Muslim and how he decided to build a masjid.

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:23

So, um, like, so when did you know the cops was coming to get you? Or they just can't got you.

SPEAKER_03 0:28

I was going to court for trafficking cocaine. I had got caught with an ounce of cocaine. Hard? Yeah. Hard. I ain't sell coca. I mean, crack. I mean, I ain't sell cocaine at that time. Okay. They were before I got into the powder. But um, yeah, I had one to court. I had two open cases from getting caught with crack. And the red dog unit uh used to always get me. And um, they said, you gotta open acrobation south. I said, Well, I don't know nothing about that. So my lawyer kept telling me, you gotta open it, you gotta go to court for it. And I was like, I just kept playing crazy every time I went to court, like, I don't know what you're talking about. So they finally caught me up here in the car, right up this street right here, about two blocks over, they caught me in a stolen car and they brought me to this precinct on this corner right here. It was it was a precinct back in the day, right across the street from there where I just bought. Yeah. It was a precinct. It used to be a police precinct. I guess since the crime went down over here, you know, precinct. I don't know why. But um he asked me, did you shoot Gregory, man? I said, Hell yeah, I shot his ass. He tried to rob me and I shot him. But I was telling the honest guy truth. I I I had not lied. Yeah. I had not. I'm in the past, I'm in, I'm in the interview, baby. You need me.

unknown 1:48

Uh I just wanted to ask the question. I could text you.

SPEAKER_03 1:51

All right, let me. I said. But what's your call?

SPEAKER_02 1:56

No, I'm saying so so you they just you you told the cop that I did it, like yeah, I shot him.

SPEAKER_03 2:00

Like yeah, and then when my um stepdad, his name was Ranimo, Ranimo, he brought me outside. He was like, why the hell you tell them people you shot him? I was like, shit, I did. He was like, um, you supposed to play like you ain't know nothing. You know, I'm like, oh, so next time I do this, I need to say I don't know nothing. I don't know nothing. But he would he got on my ass about telling them that, and I went to try like a dumb ass after I already made the statement. But the judge ruled in my behavior. I mean, in my on my behalf. I, you know, when they reached the verdict, because I ain't got no fucking jury inside a juvenile trial. It's just the judge, your mama, and all the people and the witnesses and shit like that. So when the lady said, I find Mr. Terrell Davis delinquent of aggravated assault against Gregory. I'm like, what the word delinquent mean? What the hell that means? They were like, she looked at me like you find you guilty. So now, you know, right after the death, you gotta go to Cenison. It's sent in after that. Right. Ain't no such thing as Wayne two weeks or Wayne three, four months. Like, we got it.

SPEAKER_02 3:04

In juvenile. Or juvenile juvenile single cut.

SPEAKER_03 3:06

I don't know what it is now, but back then, so then I'm like, what the hell? So we go in the hallway, then come back in for sentencing. I think I'm gonna get my juvenile life. Because I've been finding the case about two years at this time. And um the judge just ruled in my behalf and said that um, because I had screened up. I had got me a little job at Kroger. You know, I had turned 15, I had them just had my first child. And I was telling the truth. Like these grown ass men around here playing these games with me, and I shot them. You see what I mean? And she just ruled in my behalf on self-defense.

SPEAKER_02 3:41

Wow. Wow. So how much how much time you did behind you? I ain't do no time. Oh, so they let you so you found guilty, but they said no, like self-defense.

SPEAKER_03 3:49

On that specific case, I ain't do no time.

SPEAKER_02 3:50

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 3:51

But when I got out of that, I lost my mind. I started shooting everybody out of it.

SPEAKER_01 3:55

Yeah, because it was too easy.

SPEAKER_03 3:56

Yeah, I I it gave me a slap on the wrist. She should have gave me some time, probably. I wouldn't have never done what I did afterwards because I went crazy. I was like, whoa.

SPEAKER_01 4:07

But that's all I get for doing that.

SPEAKER_03 4:09

Okay. I wouldn't have smoked every goddamn body.

SPEAKER_02 4:13

So so you get you get you you get that that self-defense clearance or whatever it is, like let you out and you come home, right? Right. How did you feel? You felt like you was like, undefeated.

SPEAKER_03 4:26

Yeah, it was like, oh, nigga, better not even touch me. Think about touching me. And you gotta think about it at that time. I was the only dude in my school that did some shit like that. So it was like, I'm him now. You get what I'm saying? And I know how to hustle a little bit, I can make a little money. Shit, I had me some money, and I had the streets fucked up. You feel what I'm saying? That's when that's that's probably the beginning of Rollo right then. That was like the beginning of Rollo because you know, you got two types of niggas. You got a nigga that got an arm of niggas, them all them niggas broke. And they just around here just doing shit for staying. And then you got the other nigga, he got money, but he ain't got no arm. And these niggas scared, they move to a different state and move in the suburbs, and you know. And then you got you got them two types of niggas, but when you got the army, and you got the money, and you ain't no cow, that shit, that's a different type of animal. That shit fuck you up in the head.

SPEAKER_02 5:28

You feel like you're invisible, invisible.

SPEAKER_03 5:30

I don't say invisible, it's just right now I'm walking around that club, all my j around. I got a thousand niggas in here with me. I'm walking around by myself. They know not to walk with me. But I just want to show everybody in this bitch that uh everybody knows what's gonna happen to them and they fuck with me in this club. So I used to go everywhere. I go to the gas station. I was like one of the most feared niggas at that time. I mean, now niggas done got a little crazy, got a little cuckoo and the crazy in here. So, you know, I don't I I never underestimated enemy, but at that time, it it was like a period of like five to seven years where I went to be fucked with under no circumstances.

SPEAKER_02 6:12

Now, did it did it always call you Rollo or when did you come up with that name? Well, when did you get that name Rollo?

SPEAKER_03 6:17

My stepdad died when I was um, I want to say, right after I broke in that school, probably like a year later, he he died. He used to come see me every week while I was in juvenile for them 10 days. It felt like a long time, but it was really only two weeks, but he was there. And he kind of the person that um gave me a lot of game about life.

SPEAKER_01 6:38

It's safe to say you love him.

SPEAKER_03 6:40

I love that nigga to death.

SPEAKER_01 6:41

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 6:42

So when he died, I remember one day when I got out of juvenile, he had um he had this tattoo R-A-L-O on his arm, but we never caught no Rallo in the hood. My mama never caught him Rahlo. He had a nickname Mario. His real name was Jermaine Davis. So when I seen the name on him, oh I'm like, what the hell you get Rallo from? He was like, Yeah, man, that was my name. But I ended up fucking my name up. So, you know, I I I I transfer it to Mario. So I was like, Did you like Rahlo? He was like, Yeah, I loved my name, man. It just, I robbed too many niggas, little Rahlo. I mean Lil Tyrrell. And I was like, oh yeah. So when he died, that was like some that I felt like me and him had, because my mama didn't even know this. And uh I just felt like that's something me and him had that nobody really had. So I said, I'm gonna keep it and I'm gonna raise it up for him. But I would have never thought I would have got this big, of course.

SPEAKER_02 7:39

How did he die?

SPEAKER_03 7:40

He got killed in Disney Hills. Right in that that neighborhood they said that um where they accused niggas of shooting that little baby, yeah, he got killed in that neighborhood. That's why I really went up there and shot the video. Everybody thought I was going up there to shit on Lil Baby. But I actually went up there like, yeah, cuz the song name is Like Rollo. So I had my attention, my daddy just got killed up here when I was a kid. His name was Rollo, and I'm finna go up here and shoot in his name up here.

SPEAKER_00 8:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:12

But Lil Baby had just got shot at like two weeks. I mean, supposedly, I don't know if he did or not, but he supposedly had got shot at two weeks before I shot that video in that hood. So it looked like as if Rollo shit on Lil Baby, but honest to God, I really wasn't trying to shit on Lil Baby for real.

SPEAKER_02 8:32

Wow. So um your steppop, uh your stepfather getting killed. Right. Um, where was you at when you heard the news? Like, how did it affect you?

SPEAKER_03 8:41

I was getting out of school. I was in seventh grade. I came home from school, my mama ran up on me and hugged me. Which she never really did at that time. Man, she was hugging me tight, crying and shit. I'm like, what the hell are you crying for, mama? She was like, I already just got killed. Shit ain't even feel real to me. I'm like, what? What the hell? But he was up there trying to, um, I guess he was trying to make some shake on that block because we just had got kicked out the bluff. We stayed on 402M Street for 12 years. I want to say, yeah, 12 years of my life. We had finally lost our house and um we moved to Disney Hill. He had asked me to borrow $250. It was it was probably $150 or $250. It was between them two. But I remember him going to go buy him a quarter ounce of crack. And he was like, he gonna get us back right, because I had done just gave them $400 to get the move in special. And um, I used to sell CDs and DVDs back then, right on the same block. Everybody knew me from that. And um I gave him $400. I mean, I gave him that $150, but before that, I gave him $400 to help my mama get the apartment. So when he died, I knew I had to take a loss. That was my first time probably taking a major loss to a person other than the red dog kept taking my dope every time. But um one, I knew I wouldn't get my money back. Two, and shit. No, my mama don't even know this. But I had walked in the kitchen one day and he was on the phone with his brother. And he was telling his brother, I would listen. He was telling his brother he was gonna leave my mama.

SPEAKER_02 10:25

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 10:26

My mama don't even know this. She probably didn't know now, but probably won't matter now. But he so when when I found out he did, I was like, damn, well, mama kind of spat up a heartbreak because she he was gonna leave her ass. He got tired of that shit. My mama, you know, you know, now that I'm growing into a man that I have grown into a man that I know how hard it had to be to deal with my mama as a man.

SPEAKER_01 10:51

That take that take hell of a strength right there to recognize it now in your older year, your bigger years.

SPEAKER_03 10:56

What? If I don't get her no money, I don't love her. Smell man, that shit hurt, boy. You know, I did all that time, all that time I just did five years and ten months sending that motherfucker in um. I took care of my whole family before then. And not one of them sent me one letter. Not a happy birthday card, not no asalam alekum, no I love you, not one dollar, not one honey bun, not one soup. So like when I got out this time, and you know I got back right or whatnot, I just it it ain't down no more. I took care of y'all for 17 years of my life, getting y'all the best of life, the best of cars, the best of houses, the best of living. And for y'all to do me like that, that shit just hurt me so bad. So like I can't do that again.

SPEAKER_01 11:48

Right.

SPEAKER_03 11:48

You know what I mean? I can't I can't do it. It ain't in me like it just ain't in me, it ain't there. Like, I I'm out here doing I put those first that was there for me. Of course, I'm I lost a couple men on this journey since I've been out like gold mouth and shit like that. I love him the death. But we got I understand that some of us go our separate ways and this shit. You feel me? So he probably about the only motherfucker that was there that I live with like damn, I can't believe we ain't rocking no more. But other than that, bro, I'm out here doing for those that was there for me. You know what I mean?