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RALO PART 7: "I WANTED TO BE WITH MY UNCLE"

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Tales From The Jails Host sat down with Ralo from Atlanta. Ralo addresses the snitch allegations and how his relationships with other rappers have been compromised. Ralo addresses the new goals of rebuilding his neighborhood. Ralo speaks about his life as a Muslim and how he decided to build a masjid.

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SPEAKER_01

So when was your first like you know, I know you said you was you was you was in a county or or or juvenile facility. You did juvenile time too, right? Right. So when was your first like time being like arrested and doing juvenile time? How long was that?

SPEAKER_00

I was um I want to say I was 11 years old, because that when Rockawell was out, I had a Rockawell outfit on. And you know, Jay-Z and uh Diddy had son John and Rockawell. Yeah. I had broken to my um friend elementary school, Herner Elementary School, Alonzo Hernan Elementary School, right off here on Simpson. And I was trying to steal a tech recorder. I broke into the window and we pulled the tech recorder out. When it came out, police was right there, they chased us down. I ended up getting a little far, but I ain't make it. They caught me. And um, I just wanted to make me a demo CD. I mean a demo tape. You know how you used to you can rap. So I was like, I remember when we was in school, the teachers uh let us read and then let us hear what we read.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So I planned on playing the beat in the background on my little CD player, and I was gonna rap over the beat, and I was gonna have me a little tape and shit. That's what I wanted. And um, that kind of fell. I went to juvenile 11 years old.

SPEAKER_01

How long were you in juvenile?

SPEAKER_00

They they um the judge said we're gonna detain these two for 10 days. I stayed in our 10 days. The first time when I was loud, but that was just the first time.

SPEAKER_01

So you ended up what's the longest time you didn't in the juvenile facility?

SPEAKER_00

Shit, they tried to give me juvenile life. Dang. You know, that went over five years back then, but that's that's forever. Yeah, five years was forever, but um, I had sh I had lost trial. I had shot four people in the bluff, I shot Greg, I shot and three more people that did come to court on me, but I say Greg's name because he came in and um testified and all that old shit. So I always say his name. The rest of them niggas that kept a gangster, even the Jay, he kept a gangster, he didn't come and tell on me.

SPEAKER_01

How old were you?

SPEAKER_00

I was 14, I want to say. I was 14 years old.

SPEAKER_01

How did it f how did you feel? Like, I mean, did you did you think did you really understand like the criminal system like at that time, or that was just something like, all right, I'm I'm just walking in here and I don't know what's going on.

SPEAKER_00

I got an uncle by the name of Iron Head, and um he was a fierce gangster back in the day. I just got him out for another three murders. He just came home probably like, I want to say I picked him up like two weeks ago. And um he always been one of them niggas that nobody played with. And um that's the only thing that was going through my head, like, if a nigga would have did what they did to my uncle, what he would have did.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And all I said, because he wasn't he was going to the feds, he just had got an on career criminal, so he was getting 15 to 25 years at that time. And I was, I was heartbroken by him going, so I was like, shit, I'm gonna be down there with him. It sounds like some crazy shit.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But I was cool with going to jail, because I thought, you know, I ain't know about when you go to jail, you be separated and juvenile be it, you know what I'm saying? I just knew like shit, I'm finna shoot all these niggas. I'm gonna kill I my intention was to kill them. This man, I had intention of killing them.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And um, I wanted to go be with my uncle.

SPEAKER_01

Describe that day though, like, because a lot of times, you know, like, and this is not just glorifying it, but describe that day, like the uh uh the mints, the mentor of you, like, all right, I'm about did you notice in the days in advance you was gonna do this, or this something that you just right afterwards.

SPEAKER_00

I did it right afterwards. It wasn't no so what happened was I I did my normal little routine. I I always sold my little dope at 444 sunset. Uh um I started trying to sell some perp. That went perk was in style, and it's this dude on Tri Street, um, I want to say his name, um, I forgot his name, but anyway, he um he took me to some niggas in Allen Temple and I bought my first little ounce of perk, and I think it was like five, six hundred dollars, and I sat up like 750. And um I had a brother-in-law by the name of Big Man, and I was going over there and I was serving him a bag of perk, like a little small bag of perk, so I could start, you know, get all my little bum or whatnot. And when I got up there, I had sunset bing though, like on a on the crack, I had straight drop. Like, I had straight drop glass, and everybody knew like little Terrell got the glass on sunset, like he got the best dope on sunset. So when I went on these niggas' block, they thinking that I'm finna come up here and set up shop with my with my product. But honestly, I was up there just to meet one person to sell one bag of weed, one, not even a pound of weed, like a little, probably a 20-sack of weed or some shit like that. But I was trying to transition it to selling perk and start selling crack. So when I got up there, the nigga started talking like, nigga, we'll take your bomb, nigga, we'll take your weed, we'll take all your shit, nigga. You ain't coming on our block. This nigga ain't even give me time to explain myself. Like, I really honestly was just waiting. I wouldn't post it on their block to take none of their customers.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But word got around to all of them, like, yeah, shout out here trying to take over y'all block. But I honestly 100% wasn't trying to take over their block. It was a big misunderstanding. They shouldn't have said what they said to me and did what they did. I got the final one on them. I got the best of them. Because you know, I had been in and out of juvenile at the time, so I kind of knew how to fight a little bit. I whooped his ass and his friend didn't like it. He jumped in it. And all these niggas was like 26 and 27, and I ain't number 14 at the time. These niggas done there in their 30s. So um, they fucked around and let me walk away. Oh, no, wet bait on that. They probably just gonna kill me right then. But um, I went down there, I got my gun, because I used to have my guns right where I had my dope. Went down there, I got my gun, and I came back, nobody was right there. I seen him, I turned on English. I seen Greg ass in them woods up there. He had like a J in front of him. So he was like a J is like a crack, cracky.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_00

So he was like, What you gonna do? I said, I'm gonna shoot him and you. I shot him. I shot the J first bar. After I shot the J, he tried to run. I don't, you know, I ain't never been good at sports or none of that shit. I just got a lucky shot and I shot it. Boom, he fell on the ground. He was like, ah, I was like, damn, buddy, this gun make a nigga feel like Superman. That nigga, he cause he was real tall. Still to this day, he probably like six four. You know what I'm saying? Or or more. And he had a lot of weight on him. And you gotta think about it. At 14, I was a short little 14. Like I was short. So when I turned around at the time of me find his friend, I was at this nigga naval. So when I heard him cry after I shot his ass, because today he wasn't crying as loud as this nigga, I said, Oh, I'ma I'm a nigga better not even say nothing else to me. I'ma have every nigga that say something to me cry like that nigga. So I ended up going around, I walked past the nigga, I stood over him with the pistol. I was like, nigga, I shoot you in your face and all, you know, talking about shit. Then another nigga was over here by the motorbus. The motorbus, you know, we ride the subway, the motorbus. And he was just laying, it was two niggas laying on the ground. Like I shot them already, and I had not even shot them yet. Yeah. I just went on and shot both of them too. So after that, I ran down English Avenue, turned down Oliver, went down the rock and roll. It's a little shortcut back there. I hit my gun behind the um tree. And I called Missy, and I was like, babe, I just shot some people. She was like, babe, what you did? I was like, I just shot these niggas. And I went to the house. When I went to the house, the next day my sister came in the house talking about some days. You know, you know how you got a sister where y'all be arguing with y'all kids and shit. She up and talking about some, they say you can't come back to the bluff. All these little homeboys, she she name dropping, saying they names. I'm recording every name she says. I said, That's that. I can't come back up though. Alright, I went and got my same gun and I shot it, shot everybody block up. I ain't shoot them. I ain't gonna shoot, I ain't shoot them, but I let them know my presence would die. And the next day my sister came and my sister said, They say just start shooting their houses up. Just leave them alone. You good, they ain't got nothing to do with that. I said, okay, because that I I was juvenile, I was a child, I ain't give a damn about nothing. I ain't even think about no consequences. Like I had not never heard of going to jail for the rest of my life, you know what I'm saying? So it was in my head, it was like, cause cause niggas was getting killed every day, and and people was still on the block in the blood. Like, nigga was just so I didn't never think that I go to jail. And then the way them niggas was talking, I thought them niggas were gangster. I didn't know they were gonna go to the police and send me to jail. Like that shit was unheard of.