MONEY JUNE: TALES FROM THE JAILS LIVE!!!

TALES FROM THE JAILS LIVE!!! Featuring Money June who spoke about his short time in prison fighting an attempted murder charge. Money June talks about his time on the run and the difficulties of avoiding the police. Money June also talks about taking his music career seriously and moving to the Dominican Republic to start a new chapter in his life.

Transcript

SPEAKER_07 2:15

I want to thank everybody who's been tuning in to Tells from the Jails. Everyone knows that jail is a serious matter. Us here at Tells from the Jails, we are offering something special to anyone who is currently in prison, on their way to prison, and actually those who are returning from prison. We're offering consultation to anyone who's threatened with prison, in prison, and like I said, and who are coming home from prison. We have Zoom consultations to help you with your prison bid. For those who are going to prison, don't know about prison, don't know what to expect, don't know if it's going to be, you know, you know, all these horror stories you hear, all these things. We tell you what exactly to expect. We give you consultation on how to deal with these difficulties of prison. It could be through Zoom, it can be in person where we talk to you in person. We do intense prison preparation. We also offer business management for those who are incarcerated. We also do post-prison consultations. So if you're ever looking for consultation, you want to know what's going on, you want to want to be prepared to go in, like you want to want to be prepared to come home. Contact TalesfromTheGail. That's tellsfromthejail.com. Tellsfromthejail.com. You see it right here. Tellsfromthejail.com. Reach out to us today. Everyone knows prison is a serious matter. Prison is oppression, but nothing's worse than going to prison and not knowing what to expect. Or coming home at the band, incarcerated for years and not knowing what to expect. We help you here at Tell us from the Jails. We offer consultation for those who are going to prison, also those who are coming home from prison. And also we have different features and options for those. We live, we live, we live, we good? Huh? Okay, yeah, and welcome everybody to another episode of Tell us from the Jails. We're here live in Parmesan USA TNS meeting group of the team and the family. Got my counterpart with me, Mr. Braheem Jackson. I want to start by saying something here, uh, if I could. Um uh Tells from the Jails, we do not promote or uh or glorify prison in any way. Our goal is to deter individuals from going to prison. So ultimately, this is what our goal is to stop everyone from going to prison and provide a reminder for those out there who want to who want to break law. So this this is our goal. So for anyone out there who's thinking different than that, I'm sorry, but you're mistaken. I got my counterpart, Mr. Brahim Jackson. We got a special guest today. Tell them who you are.

SPEAKER_03 4:55

My name is Money June. You can find me on Instagram at moneyjune444. I'm a Latin artist slash mentor slash motivator.

SPEAKER_07 5:07

I hear that. So as you know, tell us from the judge, what we do is like like I just mentioned, we uh you know provide, you know, real life stories, uh, you know, or real life events, you know, uh stories such as yourself, what you have going on, you know, and to show that is a is a flip side to uh uh going to prison and then coming home and then being successful. Because a lot of times people think that if you break the law, that's that's gotta be your life. So we don't wanna we wanna get your story. Um so if you could, how much time you did?

SPEAKER_03 5:35

Um the longest I was in jail was like six and a half months of in an attempt.

SPEAKER_07 5:40

Okay. Yeah. How was that for you, like, you know, sitting in there for where is it? Was it in the States or was it out of?

SPEAKER_03 5:46

Um CFCF. Yeah, state.

SPEAKER_07 5:49

And so how was that for you, like, you know, you know, going through that whole process, or if you could talk about it, you know, you can you can speak about what you want to speak out, speak about, leave out what you want to leave out. But how was that for you, you know, going through that?

SPEAKER_03 6:00

It was like my first time ever being in jail. So it was a little bit like difficult from you being out in the streets, having everything to being prevented of doing anything. So that was like real different for me at that time. It was like shopping. But you know what? When when you somebody from the streets and you get it put into those situations, you find a way. Yeah. So I found a way in there soon. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 6:27

And we all know CLCF, for those who don't know, uh, CLCF is a uh a county prison uh in Philadelphia. For those who are outside of Philadelphia, it's a county prison inside Philadelphia, whereas though, you know, you can be in there with, you know, murderers, you know, uh rapists, uh, it's all types of individuals that are inside that prison wall. Drug dealers, you you name it, it's everything is on state road. That's where you go if you commit a crime and you're waiting to either beat your case or get sentenced to go upstate. So, you know, uh you ended up um you know going up, going to CFCF. So the police came to um pick you up uh from CFCF. I'm sorry, came to pick you up and it took you to CFCF. Were you caught on the streets or where were you uh apprehended?

SPEAKER_03 7:09

I was I was on the run for one year and they caught me in my mom's house. What, late night? Not like five in the morning. I knew they was coming that day, though, because I had seen them out in the streets that day. Like I knew they was around.

SPEAKER_07 7:25

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 7:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 7:26

So you saw them, you was like, you was at your mom's house, you saw him probably ride past, look at you.

SPEAKER_03 7:30

Yeah, I wasn't even living at my mom's house or nothing, but at the time my mom may have a whip. And I was living out of town because I was on the run. But I used to drive out here daily just to take her to work and pick her up. So they started catching on to that, I guess, and they caught me later.

SPEAKER_07 7:47

So they come five in the morning, you sleep, to take you down.

SPEAKER_03 7:51

I wasn't even asleep.

SPEAKER_07 7:52

Oh, you weren't even asleep.

SPEAKER_03 7:53

I was waiting for them.

SPEAKER_07 7:54

You was waiting for them?

SPEAKER_03 7:55

Yeah. Because I I had seen them that day early. So what did they see you and say we can we come and get you over the? No, no, I just knew that I it was different people. You could tell. Like when you when you got vibes.

SPEAKER_07 8:09

Wow. And can you speak about this case that you was like apprehended for? What can you speak about it?

SPEAKER_03 8:14

Like Yeah, it was like uh an attempt. I had a fight, then some shots broke out and they said it was me. And it wasn't even me. Like they found out it wasn't me later.

SPEAKER_07 8:23

Oh, but the individual was he, you know, he was hit multiple times or nah, it was a lady that was hit.

SPEAKER_03 8:29

But the guy who I was fighting was the one that's saying that he saw me do it, do the shooting.

SPEAKER_07 8:36

Wow. Wow. Hmm. And then so you go to CFCF. Now, did you get a bell or was it that gave you a high bell at the time?

SPEAKER_03 8:45

Or nah, I had a high ass bell at the time. It was like, sorry for the word, um it was like 500k at the time. With the 10%, uh what no, that's the 10% was like 50k, 50k.

SPEAKER_07 8:57

Hmm.

SPEAKER_03 8:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 8:59

And at that time you didn't have as much motion as you had right now. So I'm assuming you right now, you would have you, you'd you would have got a body.

SPEAKER_03 9:06

It had been times before that I had like big motion, but at that particular time, I was on the run for a year already, so I wasn't I wasn't even moving around where where I could move like that. So I didn't have that 50k at the time.

SPEAKER_07 9:21

How did how how did you feel? Did you how did you feel like you know when when they grabbed you and and took you in? How did you feel about that?

SPEAKER_03 9:27

Anybody that's ever been on the run know, when you get caught, you feel like relief. So I felt like relief when I got caught. Like a good feeling, actually.

SPEAKER_06 9:37

But how did you feel when you what was your thoughts when you first when they first took you to the county though? You first stepped into CFC at the RC.

SPEAKER_03 9:45

You know, I'm I'm like, I'm I'm Spanish at the end of the day, so you know, people like you don't want to go there and shit crazy over there. So it was like that, but I was like into the streets for real, so I really didn't care about that. I was actually relief, like I'm gonna just get over, you get the shit over with.

SPEAKER_06 10:02

Yeah, it do be it do a lot of people, but even me for myself, I was uh on a run a couple times, and when you finally get caught, it's like a like all right, let me go ahead and get this joint over.

SPEAKER_03 10:12

Yeah, it's over with. You ain't gotta keep looking at it. Turn yourself in. Yeah, that's harder. Yeah, than getting caught. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 10:19

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SPEAKER_03 18:11

Yeah, that was 2008.

SPEAKER_07 18:12

So it's kind of it was a little really, really rough around that time, 2008.

SPEAKER_03 18:16

Yeah, it was rough.

SPEAKER_07 18:16

It was rough in the what was the what was the uh what was the thing that you had to get acclimated to the most as far as being, you know, that was your first time being arrested. So I'm I'm I'm gonna course your your freedom, but what else was it that you had to get acclimated to as far as being there?

SPEAKER_03 18:30

It was just like hard the first two weeks. Quarantine. You know, quarantine, you can't get no commissary at the time. I don't know now. You couldn't get commissary or none of that. So it was like you was just eating jail food. You couldn't get the right amenities you needed. But like a month in, I was already dug in.

SPEAKER_07 18:52

Like I was You was dug in. So that six months wasn't really, you know, as hard as people make it out to be for you. People, you know, you had money, money on your books.

SPEAKER_03 19:02

Because it's a it's it's a long story to them six months. Let's get to it then. It got ugly.

SPEAKER_07 19:07

All right, let's get to it. What happened?

SPEAKER_03 19:10

This is where I'm at. Um, my manager now. Okay. I'm at Burko with it, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 19:15

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 19:16

Um we, you know, we had the black, you know, he was doing everything in the. I got stabbed like three months into, like three or four months into. I got stabbed nine times.

SPEAKER_08 19:29

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 19:30

By a lifer, somebody that was already sentenced to life, but was there fighting another body. Wow. What you said earlier, remember what you said earlier that you beat with killers, rapers? Mm-hmm. Um we had one in um court that day. He had one in court too. We had came back, he told me like to pull some strings for him for him to get on the phone. I pulled the strings for him, but he was like an at like an A-ho. So they was like, they wasn't with giving him the phone. So he was trying to use my phone. You know, the phone, I had a jack in there. I can say that, right?

SPEAKER_07 20:10

Yeah, you can say that, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_03 20:11

Yeah. You don't never know who's watching up here in this. I mean, so I had a jack in there, so he was trying to use my jack. I was like, you feel me? Like I had a certain way I moved. So that's why I was there for so long with it. Like, I had a certain time I would pull my jack out, certain time I'll put it away. So at the time I was like, nah, bro, I can't help you right now. Later on, maybe I got you. But he was like frustrated with whatever he had going on in court. So he just got mad, so whatever. Like, we just argued, but I ain't think nothing of it. The next day, I had just got a pack in, right? So for some reason, there was this kid that I used to see around all the time, and I called him over and I gave him a little bit of butt. And he's like, yo, such and such, he gathering dudes up to run down on you. I'm with this guy in the cell. It's like eight, nine. It was like ten of us. It was like ten of us in the cell. Dude go to the day room, he pull out a big old shank, and he tell me to go in his cell. So everybody, they all getting ready. Like, you feel me, they getting shanked up, or everybody's getting their stuff. I didn't wait for them. I just went right to the dude and just started going off on them. Started a big ass war.

SPEAKER_07 21:34

And you got stabbed nine times.

SPEAKER_03 21:36

Yeah, because I hit him and I dropped him. When I dropped him, I forgot that he had something in his hand. So I was just focused on hitting him. So while he's fighting me off, he was stabbing me a bunch of times. Where at? He stabbed me right here in my head, stabbed me on my neck. He stabbed me in a couple um like dangerous places. Like right here, it was like right next to my temple, my neck, my neck. My arms, a couple of spots, nine times.

unknown 22:03

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 22:03

They they took me out and everything.

SPEAKER_07 22:05

Helicopter you out or no? Huh?

SPEAKER_03 22:07

Did they helicopter you out, helicopter you out? Nah, nah. They they um they took me to they took me to the to the street doctors and shit.

SPEAKER_06 22:14

It's only helicoptered out if you in a jail when the jail's not near hospitals. That that's just a saying. Okay. Yeah. I mean helicopter out mean like he had to leave the hot the jail for one. Yeah. It's not actual helicopter.

SPEAKER_03 22:26

Nah, they say they say they send you out. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 22:30

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 22:31

So that that messed up my bit right there.

SPEAKER_07 22:34

Getting stabbed. So because you gotta come now there, because they don't bring you back to the same block no more. Exactly. So you gotta start all over again. How long was you at the hospital for?

SPEAKER_03 22:44

Like from one day to another. Oh, just one whole day. Just getting stitches and stuff. Then they let you come back. They put you on PC when you come back. Because usually that's what they did to me when I got stabbed PC. PC, exactly. So I'm in PC. Now they don't want to let me go out. They don't want to let me out of PC because every time they open the blackout, this dude right here, he's sending one and two dudes out every day. He can't come over here. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Well, he ain't gonna have the mic. But he can come, he can he come show who he is. Yeah. He's my manager now. I met him in jail. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 23:21

What's up, y'all? I'm Bert, man. That's that's my guy. I was you know, uh I was locked up. I was actually uh arrested for something I ain't do, so I ended up getting sentenced to like 50 years. I fully exonerated in 2022.

SPEAKER_03 23:35

But you know, throwing out uh so this is the dude that every time they used to open a blackout, he used to send one and two dudes out from the dudes who try to run down on us. So they kept me in PC the whole time till they just kicked me off the jail.

SPEAKER_07 23:53

So let's let's get to so you going to trial at the same time, right? While all this going on, you've been down there for six months, so you got stabbed, you're waiting for trial. Um now now that you now that you waiting for trial, were you scared at any point that you you wasn't gonna get out? Or did you think that it was like a chance that you would end up going upstate at some time at some point?

SPEAKER_03 24:13

Look, you know, there was a system back then, so this is North Philly. You know, there's there was dudes that had cops like on payrolls and stuff. So the detective who arrested me, he was like, I know you didn't do this. Just do just fight your case. You're gonna go home, because we know who did it, but you know like they know who did it, but they was on the payroll, they couldn't do nothing about it. So I just did, I just went to court like three, four times, and that's it, just went home. After that. So I so like you know what's crazy? Yeah, I made the money for my bail from from inside of the jails.

SPEAKER_07 24:51

Yeah, that's crazy because he always said all the time, people be in jail, making a lot of money in jail.

SPEAKER_03 24:56

I made my I'm I made I made a bunch of money while I was in jail. Like I was doing better off in jail than when I was in the streets at that time.

SPEAKER_07 25:04

Wow. If if you could speak about it, what was you like, you know, what was you doing? Like, you know, because I know you're not in there no more, but what was you doing?

SPEAKER_02 25:10

I was bringing we used to say when he went to the hole, it was a drought in the jail.

SPEAKER_03 25:14

Yeah, because I I was bringing everything in. I had everything in there.

SPEAKER_02 25:18

No, it was crazy, right? Because the CO boy that was actually our horse two days before he had came into the jail, was telling me about him, but this is my man cousin. So I knew of him, I didn't know him. His cousin is my man. So he's telling me about him, the CO, like, yo, man, this boy Money June, man, sold me a hot Range Rover and all this. I'm like, yeah. I know he's talking about him the whole time. Yeah, two days later, he landed right on the block. Wow. So we end up, you know, uh talking to the COP.

SPEAKER_03 25:46

So he had a movie for us and then we we was doing a bunch of shit. Yeah, yeah. So all right, so that thing just go back to what you said. I was bringing the cell phones in, I was bringing the bud, I was everything.

SPEAKER_07 25:57

What's the cell phones going for at that time? Like so as far as we were selling.

SPEAKER_03 26:00

We were selling them for, right? We were selling them for like 800.

SPEAKER_07 26:03

Hmm. That price doubled now. What's the price now for like a cell phone now?

SPEAKER_06 26:07

Yeah, it's around the same thing, the stack, it ain't double.

SPEAKER_07 26:09

Yeah, they double. I thought you said like because maybe that I don't know if that's in the feds or something like that.

SPEAKER_06 26:14

But the feds it'll be double because you'll be way out. Okay. But you in the county, yeah. I mean, it's a little bit different. The feds, you you be anywhere. So they get a phone on the actual yard and you in California, that motherfucker gonna be 20, 2500, three grand. But no, even when you was at Fort Dicks, they was like, you was like the I think Yeah, if the price, because the feds is different, they like the state. They went in the state. Feds is a whole different ball game. And then we was actually at jails. We went in the county. You understand what I'm saying? We was in the jail, they in the county.

SPEAKER_07 26:39

Yeah, because you gotta be straight. You got you got you got you gotta compete with the other people got phones in there, so you gotta kind of be like, you know, I gotta have a good number to get off of the phones because everybody else got might have phones as well.

SPEAKER_02 26:48

Yeah, it depends on if it was flooded or not. If the jail is not flooded, then the demand is up and it's more exclusive.

SPEAKER_07 26:55

How many phones can you get in at a time? Like, what was it? Was it like a number that you can get in? Or was it like you know, ten at a time?

SPEAKER_03 27:01

Nah, even two, even two at a time was good at the time.

SPEAKER_06 27:04

Yeah, that was that that'd be mad. Even one, yeah, you go out and get one every time. Yeah, that's a bag.

SPEAKER_07 27:10

How often do they bring them in? Like every day or every other day? We we had this dude.

SPEAKER_03 27:14

It was like twice, twice a week, right? Two, two, three times a week. I was getting drives, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:19

And the crazy part, dude, the CO that we had on Smash, he he was a 13 uh and he ended up when he went home, he ended up having this CO boy out in the street doing all kinds of money.

SPEAKER_07 27:32

Wow, so y'all relationship was like even though even though you got out, y'all still was cool. Nah, I met him, I met him in the jail. We've been cool ever since. No, I'm talking about the CO.

SPEAKER_02 27:42

Yeah, so he still was CO became he ended becoming a rat. Yeah, he became yeah, he got caught up in his own shit.

SPEAKER_07 27:49

He became a snitching uh uh in the jail or in the streets.

SPEAKER_03 27:52

No, in the streets. Yeah, he's he was doing other shit. You know, I put him on to that life, like he was hearing licks and stuff, so he started hearing licks, made his own team, got lapped up. Why do you think people can make make sure y'all speaking to the mics? Oh shit.

SPEAKER_06 28:07

Just just when y'all speaking, just get near the mic. All right, right.

SPEAKER_07 28:12

Yeah, so when you when you when you get um when you get uh to a point where you you you're making so much money in prison. I know I know this is a crazy question, but the party you want to stay in and continue to make money, or it was like, nah, I'm ready, I'm ready to roll.

SPEAKER_03 28:30

I mean, me, I was like, whenever it's done, it's done. But for now, I'm gonna just be here.

SPEAKER_07 28:36

Hmm. And what were you doing with the money? So you I guess you were sending the money out that's paying people out on the streets to, you know.

SPEAKER_03 28:42

Yeah, I was I was getting, remember, I was on the run far as hell. So I was already getting ready to come home, getting the crib out here.

SPEAKER_02 28:50

Man, this boy was out there, he's been there paying people lawyers, all right.

SPEAKER_03 28:53

Yeah, I was doing all types of like I used to buy everybody food in there, bottom. Next night, secure people in there.

SPEAKER_07 29:02

Wow. So let's talk about you getting out of there. Like, you know, you come, you you, you know, after you got I guess they threw the case out, what the case may be.

SPEAKER_03 29:10

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 29:10

And how was it for you knowing that you're coming home and then getting back on the streets?

SPEAKER_03 29:16

Month that mask caught a shooting three weeks later, I was on the run for five years after that.

SPEAKER_07 29:21

Damn.

SPEAKER_03 29:22

Three weeks later.

SPEAKER_07 29:24

So this time you're running the you got you got some money though, you're running this time.

SPEAKER_03 29:27

I actually had some money at the time, yeah, but I blew that fast. But I started then when I was on the run that time, I was like already more mature. Because the first time I was on the run, I was like 18. The first time I went to jail that I met him, I was 18, 19. I had I was going on 19. Right? Yeah, I was going on 19. So this is years later. I was like 20, 26, back now, no, no. Yeah, I was on the run for five years. From 19, I was 24. From 22 to 24, I made a lot, a lot of money. So by the time I turned myself in that time, I already had laureate money, bail money, everything. I was just in jail for five days.

SPEAKER_07 30:13

So you catch that shooting and go on a run. Mm-hmm. Miami. South Beach. So you was down there chilling.

SPEAKER_03 30:23

Range over, South Beach, Condos.

SPEAKER_07 30:26

So how did they catch you? Nah, they didn't.

SPEAKER_03 30:28

So they turned myself in years later. Oh, you just want to turn yourself in? I was super, super, super like comfortable. Yeah, I turned myself in. So normally man.

SPEAKER_07 30:40

Oh, it's just five, you just been there five days. I was in there five days, yep. And you just paid your bell, got out, and then fought everything from the streets. Yes, sir. So I'm gonna say normally people get money, right? Like, you know what I mean? They get money like, man, catch me if you can. I'm not, what made you go there and turn yourself in?

SPEAKER_03 30:55

Oh, because um, somebody started like, I was already like chilling with like Northern Lins and No Wells. I was already like for the Sixers. Yeah, I was like chilling with, I was with them all the time. So they started like making, I was coming out in the Sixers games, all of that. So they started like this chick that I knew, she started calling the caps all the time. Like, he's in Philly. Why y'all haven't called him? So they started putting me on all the billboards everywhere. In Philly. In Philly. So I was already at a level that my jeweler was calling me like, yo, I saw you on 95. This person was calling me like the owner of Hibachi. John, I seen you, because I used to tell him my name was John, because I was with a different identity. But this guy, they looking for this guy look just like you. So I was scared as hell. I was like, I'm gonna just turn myself in.

SPEAKER_07 31:48

So you turn yourself in, you know what I mean? Like you said, you up, like you what you you're comfortable now. You got, you know, you got all right if I gotta pay a bell, if I gotta pay a lawyer, I'm already situated whereas though I can get up out of here. Because a lot of times people turn themselves in and they don't have none of that. They only matter of fact, people don't even don't even have the I'll say people not even in a position to even think about turning themselves in, if that makes any sense. People like, man, I ain't I gotta try to figure it out. I ain't got no money, I'm gonna run. Because being on a run is difficult if you ain't if you ain't have no money.

SPEAKER_03 32:16

Now when you Spanish, though.

SPEAKER_07 32:18

Now you're Spanish. What's the difference?

SPEAKER_03 32:20

Because we it's a lot of ways for us to like we got a lot of family members that are taking us in. We got ways to make money that is different than other people. It's different.

SPEAKER_08 32:30

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 32:31

You know it's different. Like, I got a lot of black and white friends, it's not the same, them going on the run than us. Definitely not the same.

SPEAKER_07 32:39

Because y'all, like, you know, I know you mentioned that you're living somewhere else right now outside of the.

SPEAKER_03 32:43

If you go on the run right now, it's uh probably like a handful of people that'll take you in. If I go on the run right now, I got a lot of handful of people that'll take me in.

SPEAKER_06 32:52

It's the same way it is in jail, man. Hispanic blacks is the most dominant in jail, but do not stick together.

SPEAKER_03 32:59

Exactly.

SPEAKER_06 32:59

You do something to a Hispanic, every last one of them getting up. So every last one of them.

SPEAKER_03 33:04

When you go on the run, like you feel me? Like, all right, like I I go on the run. I could go get a job at a tire shop. Yeah, I don't know nothing about that. You feel what I'm saying? I can go paint cars, I can go buff cars. You can do with the ticket. You feel me? Yeah, they do all the time. You don't, you don't, you don't even think like that. You keep trying to sell some drugs and keep keep it moving.

SPEAKER_07 33:24

Yeah, but that's you know, that's another way. That's that's just the that's a mentality thing. You're right. That's a mentality thing. People just always try because sometimes you people not, I won't say that they don't want to, they don't know how to adjust. Exactly. They're trying to still hit the home run and make the money that they was making before. Well, you guys gotta get a little bit coming in, you know, they could be able to maintain something.

SPEAKER_03 33:43

Yeah, yeah, it's like Spanish people's used to not having something, but doing whatever to get gets get something. I understand exactly what you're saying. You feel me? And there's a lot of people that don't have shit, they just want to sit there and just don't have shit.

SPEAKER_07 33:56

And now you sitting there, now you become a bill. People tired you sitting in their living room and they house or whatever the case may be, you know, then they hearing about the cops kicking in this person's door, they're thinking that they next, and you just but you like you said, y'all be on a run, and then you just you know you're working at a tie shop, somebody kitchen.

SPEAKER_03 34:15

Yeah, you can do a bunch of stuff, or somebody's kitchen, you could do whatever.

SPEAKER_07 34:18

You're right, and then you're out of the way. That's smart. See, look, so I know people out here are gonna break law, right? And people are gonna go on a run, you know, and I know this is gonna happen. So you just heard it, you just heard it from him. He said, you know, if you go on a run, you gotta be able to dumb it down, work in somebody's kitchen, to work at a tie shop, work at a tent shop, no matter who you go paint cars, whatever. No, we're not saying we're not glorifying committing crimes, go on the run, but but those out there out there that's on the run, you know, you can't just sit in the living room or sitting on your hands.

SPEAKER_03 34:47

You can't keep trying to commit crimes. You gotta find a way to make it right.

SPEAKER_07 34:52

So going to another state or going to another place, is that like the best thing to do? Like as pose, I mean, of course, people people flee flee, but is it better to go to another place and then just cut off everything is here?

SPEAKER_03 35:04

But you see, like what I was saying earlier, we run different. So the first thing I did when I went on the run was I got a different name with a Puerto Rican license. So I already had it. I didn't I could drive anywhere I want.

SPEAKER_07 35:16

So you had somebody, somebody else's license, somebody else's name with your picture on it.

SPEAKER_03 35:20

Yeah. That's what I'm saying, that we got different access to things that other people don't got. So it's a it's a little bit like the only way, I mean, I never got caught. I ran for five years and I was one of by the U.S. Marshals. You ever get pulled over in that five years? Well, a lot of times. A lot of times. I actually the only license I ever got was with a name that's not mine. So I don't even got a license under my own name. Like that.

SPEAKER_07 35:48

And you whooping around in big trucks and all that. Nah, that ain't nothing. I'm in the hoop this year. Yeah, I'm just saying, but I'm saying you're a big old truck outside. Yeah. But you out, you out and about. Now, it's just like, like you just said, being on a run and and and and and being able to not only switch your ident identity, being able to switch your hustle. Yeah. That's very, very important.

SPEAKER_03 36:10

Yeah, because you gotta dumb it down. A lot of people don't like dumbing it down.

SPEAKER_07 36:14

What else is important outside of like dumbing it down? Like, you know, cutting off your family. What do you got a girl? That you would she is she going around with you?

SPEAKER_03 36:23

Of course, I had a bunch of kids. I got eight kids. I was having kids on the run.

SPEAKER_07 36:30

I'm just saying, so you so you so you want to run, your girl to run with you. But I'm saying you're cool because you got an ID. And so so you so you claim to be somebody.

SPEAKER_03 36:40

Um the Warren Union one time jumped out on me, but I had lost like 80 pounds and I had an ID and they didn't know it was me.

SPEAKER_07 36:47

Let me ask you a question, man. Dude, do your your did your kid's mother know who you what really was when you had the when you made the babies?

SPEAKER_03 36:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 36:54

Oh, all right. That's gotta ask. They probably looking at the name on the ID like this.

SPEAKER_03 36:58

No, no, no, no, no. It's not like that.

SPEAKER_07 37:01

I'm just saying. Because sometimes people gotta play the play the role, the full role. Like, listen, this I mean, but once you have a kid, you gotta so you're in there sign the birth certificates and everything, which is real is that a lot of one thing don't gotta do with another.

SPEAKER_03 37:15

People don't understand that. People think because you're on the run, you can't go to a hospital, like stuff like that. It depends on what you're on the run for. Now you mentioned you got eight kids. How many, how many boys, how many girls?

SPEAKER_07 37:28

Four and four. Wow, that's what's up. And how many kids you made while you was on the run?

SPEAKER_03 37:33

Uh about three, three. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 37:40

Yeah, so this because you be on the run. I don't mean you can't. What'd you say? You can't get no uh no no no yeeks, yeah?

SPEAKER_06 37:45

No, I ain't never said you can't get no yeeks on the run. Who said that? I'm gonna try and get all the yeeks I can get on the run. It's about to be over with. So I'ma load up on yeeks. You get some yeeks on who said you can't get no yeeks on the run? I ain't gonna say that. Most of the time you're on a run, so you you you you you on a low. Yeah, if you ain't working on a low, you with your woman. You can't be out and about like that, especially if they know who you is. Yeah, then he he like he said he had the ID and all that. That's good. Yeah, you still be moving a lot to the neighborhoods.

SPEAKER_03 38:13

That's what you gotta do when you're on the run, move a lot. You gotta move around a lot.

SPEAKER_02 38:16

But you know what it sounds like he's pointing out, though, tough thing? It sounds like he's pointing out they he come from a community of unity, yeah. So they their unity is different. We see it all the time in the jails. Where if you Puerto Rican or Spanish and something like that, as soon as you come on the block, they get a crazy care packet. But well, let one of us land in the jail.

SPEAKER_06 38:32

No, be like, where he from? North, west, south Philly? Oh, yeah, no, we ain't got nothing to do with that. Like I say, the blacks is the most dominant in jail, but the most divided in jail.

SPEAKER_03 38:42

Because this is the difference between us, right? You see how you just said he come in and you be like, oh, well, he's exactly yeah. Me, I still go help him. You feel me? Yeah, we still gonna look out for him, no matter if he's black, white, whatever he is. But that's the animosity between the blacks. Yeah, they be they be putting it to their own side.

SPEAKER_07 39:02

And more so, like you said, it's amongst us. We are we are against each other more so than, and then like he always say too, say it's a gang from in the feds were more so like stay as a somebody from Maryland or Baltimore, and they and they might beef with someone else, you know, the Aryans or whatever. They let all this Baltimore beef instead of all everybody coming together, but the Hispanic crew is like one.

SPEAKER_06 39:25

They're gonna all form up on the yard.

SPEAKER_07 39:27

So the Mexicans, Dominicans, everybody, everybody that's Hispanic, the state, they gonna stay in together.

SPEAKER_06 39:32

Yeah, and whoever city they go, no, no, don't get me wrong, it's been a time where all the blacks have, but that's far few in between. You got DC, this federal DC, New York, Philly, Atlanta, whatever. There's different cards. Oh, who beefing with them? Oh, or that's the Philly boys, or yeah, we ain't got nothing to do with that. Yeah, exactly. And then we'll just sit around, we might be from DC, we'll sit around and just be watching what's going on. But all the Hispanic is out there. You like damn. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 39:59

Wow. So turn yourself in, you're in there for five days. You know, which is nothing. So you're fighting this case. So happened with the case that was thrown out, I'm assuming.

SPEAKER_03 40:09

No, I got probation for it because for what what was it again?

SPEAKER_07 40:12

You said a tenth of murder.

SPEAKER_03 40:13

That was that was another attempt, yeah. But it was like they didn't have no evidence. I was already like tired of fighting the case, three years on the streets, spending a bunch of money. And then they was trying to like put my baby mom to go on the stand against me. So it was like, I just didn't want to waste it. Cause you know, when they get when they try to give you probation, they don't got nothing on you. Especially if they're offering you 10 years probation, 15 years probation. That don't make sense. But I just took that because at the time I was like actually for the first time free since I was a kid, since I was like 18 years old.

SPEAKER_06 40:51

You still on probation right now?

SPEAKER_03 40:52

Nah, nah. I went back 10 years, like 11 years in, I went back and they seen I hadn't gotten in trouble and they just knocked it down. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 41:04

All right. So, you know, you know, our platform, our platform is Tells from the Jails. You know, what we do is, you know, we speak about prison, like I said. Now you come from what part of where you from where are you from from originally?

SPEAKER_03 41:17

New York. New York? I was born in New York. What part of New York? Um, Manhattan. All right. That's where I was born at, but I was raised in Brooklyn.

SPEAKER_07 41:24

Okay. So but people here in Manhattan, because you know, we people here in Manhattan think about all the big buildings with the lights and you know, all that stuff. That's where I was born at. So is is that is that like a hood part? Is that that hood? Is that like a is it I'm I'm assuming like it's drugs and you know violence everywhere, whether you're in Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens.

SPEAKER_03 41:42

Yeah, I mean, New York is violence everywhere. Drugs everywhere.

SPEAKER_07 41:46

So you you you were born in Manhattan, but you moved to Brooklyn?

unknown 41:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 41:50

At what age? Little, like two or three years old. But I was only there till like I was like 15, then my whole life I've been hitting.

SPEAKER_07 41:57

In Philly. Yeah. Okay, so you come from Brooklyn, you come to Philly. What part of Philly you came to? North Philly, 7th and Pike. Seventh and Pike, okay. So you come, you come, you come to North, you get up here at 15 years old. What was the difference between Philly and New York at that time when you got up here?

SPEAKER_03 42:16

I ain't never seen nobody in the corner saying we ready rocks. You ain't seen that in all New York? Nah. Well real? Nah. I would have thought they would have that out there too. Nah, nah, nah, never. Never. New York was more. And I used to live in front of the projects out there. Right. What projects in it? What projects was it? Projects. Williamsburg projects.

SPEAKER_07 42:34

They they they don't them over something like that now.

SPEAKER_03 42:36

Now that yeah, that's that's nice over there. Yeah, like you, like those people.

SPEAKER_07 42:41

Exactly, yeah. So you you know, um, you know, Philly, like you come over here, so in New York, they don't stay on the corner talking about that was different. What do they do over there in New York? What's they think? They just wait for it.

SPEAKER_03 42:53

It was just like in the buildings and stuff. You feel me? Send them niggas there, come back out with it. Over here it was like in the corner. We ready rocks, screaming, like it was an auction. That was different. I was able to drive out here at the time. We was kids, we drive capsule pullers over, take the hair out of our tires, let us go home. We come back, get the car, and leave again.

unknown 43:16

Wow.

SPEAKER_07 43:18

So, Philly though, and then being here, you've been here since you was 15 in Philly. Did you go back to New York at times? We still got people family there?

SPEAKER_03 43:25

Yeah, I go I go back to New York all the time.

SPEAKER_07 43:29

So now you see the gang violence in Philly. You see how this, you know, I don't know. In our culture, they they good. And it in our culture, you know, I'm I don't I don't know if it's if it's in the Hispanic culture as well, but these young boys is out here shooting everything up. I don't know if it's happening on because I hear about it more so from my side, African American young boys, black young boys right here, they're shooting up each other over this YBC gangs and all whatever else, other gangs, but I haven't heard of it. A Hispanic gang involved in that. Have y'all heard of something like that? Like, uh, have you ever heard you ever heard like it? I never heard of mention a Hispanic gang that's shooting like like like YBC and all that stuff like that. No, you have them.

SPEAKER_03 44:10

Yeah, you got a bunch of Hispanic. You have them, yeah, you have them, yeah. But they they're not running out here like that. Like that's what I'm saying. They like nations and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_07 44:17

That's what I'm saying. That's what I was getting to. The point I'm getting to they're not moving like no, these they're moving reckless, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 44:22

Yeah, they're not killing just for nothing. Exactly, yeah. They kill them just to be killed. No, so it's just the two different types of killings. They might be killing away about some money, they ain't killing about nothing. Exactly. That's the only thing that's separate them, but they both kill them. Thanks.

SPEAKER_07 44:37

But like you said, it's not as rampant as it is with this running up in broad daylight, switching for no, no, no money. Because, you know, they just shooting for for nothing. But I'm gonna get to the point. So you you see a lot of this stuff where they where they shooting the African-American young boys, black young boys just shooting up each other. What's your thought process of that, or looking at that and hearing about that? What do you what do you think about that? Like, what like you know, yeah, for as far as just standpoint of seeing it.

SPEAKER_03 45:02

This is the internet. The internet got them doing that. They all want to belong. Everybody wanna marry, everybody wants jewelry, everybody wants everything. And they think running up on somebody that's getting that, that's how they're gonna get it. They don't see the consequence of doing of the shooting and the things they doing.

SPEAKER_07 45:23

And then, well, these these young boys don't even want no jewelry.

SPEAKER_03 45:27

Yeah, I mean No, they want they want everything.

SPEAKER_07 45:30

Trust me, they want everything. No, I'm saying they're not off say that they're not killing for it. They're killing for you diss me on the internet, you diss me on Instagram, you diss me on TikTok, you diss me on YouTube, whatever it is, you diss me in the rap song, now and I'm coming to kill you.

SPEAKER_03 45:47

That's what I'm saying. It's they just worrying about the internet. That was my exact point.

SPEAKER_07 45:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 45:54

They just worrying about the consequences of the shootings they doing. It's crazy because at the end of the day, they got a place for them. But you know what's crazy? Why they keep doing that? Because then the ones that get locked up and the OGs is calling them from jail is glorifying that. That's why they keep doing it.

SPEAKER_07 46:12

Wow. What's the worst time you've seen it? Like from your point of view, when was it when was it when was it at its worst? Like where it was like you couldn't believe what you seen. What was going on when was that for you?

SPEAKER_03 46:24

No. I think, I mean, back in the days it was crazy, but it was over money. It was over different things. It was over blacks. They're not even killing over blacks.

SPEAKER_07 46:34

Like I was talking about the other day, me and him was talking about it on one of the podcasts. This is the first time I seen maybe like five indictments, four or five indictments, and it wasn't about no money. I mean, it wasn't like when you when they do indictments, they had they have like uh bricks on the table, money on the table, just murders, whatever type. It was about nothing. All good murders, that's it.

SPEAKER_02 46:54

That is all violent. Is that social media amplify everything? You don't have a young boy from Southwest, people with somebody from North Philly that they never met before in person. Yeah, it's all off of social media.

SPEAKER_07 47:05

And yo, it's sad. I mean, either way, even if even if it was about some type of money, it's still sad. It's still sad, it's still still not good. But it makes it even worse when it's over something like this. Somebody sits on something on this device and you're losing your life. Or and then down the jails is packed with a lot of the, you know, a lot of these young boys upstate. You know, um, which leads which leads me to my next point. Who I'm gonna say a shout out to uh Seven M. Wolf uh for becoming a member. You got my next point, what I was gonna say is, you know, you you you got a lot of these young boys in jail. How many guys do you actually take care of in prison right now that you like that you look out for right now?

SPEAKER_03 47:48

You know I'm living over the Dominican Republic right now. And that's like one of the places I'm most popular in is in jail. Because I always give back to the jails out there. Always. There's always everywhere there's a member at, like, everywhere there's somebody, there's somebody, they know of me because I've done something for somebody they know. So we be looking out for a bunch of people in the jails out there. How was it what you say? I'm very I'm I'm like in the jails, I'm like very popular, and I haven't even I've never been to the jails over there, like actually like did time over there or nothing. It's just off of the, I told you I I give motivational um messages to the youth.

SPEAKER_07 48:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 48:35

So the OGs, they they rap on me because of that.

SPEAKER_07 48:37

I was looking at your page, and man, I see that you got a lot of a lot of people, you know, a lot, you get a lot of people that's watching what you have going on, what you got going on. And um, I didn't, I didn't really, I didn't really know that, you know. Um, I didn't I didn't know until I actually looked into it. Because my first time, honestly, really, really even really hearing about you was through my guy Dot. He's like, yo, check this out. And then I started to look at what you had going on. I'm like, hey. Yeah. You just never know. Like, you because sometimes you you people you might I might I might look at your page or look at what you got going, and I may not, I may not actually understand the movement until you actually start looking at it.

SPEAKER_03 49:14

I said, You got millions, this and people checking you, like Yeah, I got I got a million, I got like every celebrity that's like Spanish celebrity, I know all of them through the messages, like my music too. I got a big audience. Like I begin like seven to from seven to eleven million views a month.

SPEAKER_02 49:36

Uh in the morning, he's giving out the oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 49:40

Every day I give him a motivational message to the youth at 7:30 in the morning. At nighttime, he's giving up the game.

SPEAKER_02 49:46

But he's showing us as a distinction. You can draw one is entertainment, it's strictly entertainment. You know what I mean? You've grown out of that.

SPEAKER_03 49:52

Yeah, so I be doing music and all of that too. But it's like a little bit different from the message that I give, but it's like entertainment.

SPEAKER_07 50:01

So let's speak about the uh Dominican Republic, right? First, I'm asking what made you move there? What made you like go there to uh say I'm moving from Philadelphia to my mom hike and like into a little hiccup, and she had to go over there, so I went over there just to like support her.

SPEAKER_03 50:18

And when I went over there, everybody was like, Who are you? Like, just because I look so different than people over there. So then I told her, I was like, I'm gonna stay here because I see it's it's something over here. Potential.

SPEAKER_07 50:31

But sometimes people won't even look at it like it's like it's potential, because you hear about uh the Dominican Republic, like it's a vacation spot.

SPEAKER_03 50:40

People getting more money over there than over here. You go to the clubs over there, look, like I had millionaires, like like international artists tell me, like, bro, we go to the club in DR and it looks crazier than every everywhere else. Dudes got more chains than everywhere else. The cars is crazy. There's a lot of money on the city.

SPEAKER_02 51:01

We were shooting a video up in the mountains, and the our Tesla was running out of batteries, so we we ran into some boys that helped us charge our uh our our car. And when we went up into the mountains, deeper into the mountain, these boys had the whole mountain cut off at the top, right? Big behind villas everywhere.

SPEAKER_03 51:18

And they're all from the street, they all they was watching me from drones. They knew who I was because of my Tesla. I'm like my I got like the only other Tesla out there yet. So they already knew it was me just because of the um drones and stuff. Like that's how locked locked in, they got stuff out there.

SPEAKER_07 51:34

Oh, say so over there in the Dominican Republic, they watch every day from drones, they can see what's that was these particular dudes that we met that day.

SPEAKER_03 51:40

We actually had a relationship with them now because of that day. Wow. They looked out for us and everything.

SPEAKER_07 51:46

Let's talk about let's talk about the uh the uh Dominican Republic as far as you said that is there's it's much more opportunity over there, or you're saying that it just it just is well it's even more poppin' is the word you use over there than it is over here. Um You said that the prisons they they appreciate you over there. Now, when you hear about places like that, you look at it and you think that you know uh what's going on over there is like almost like I don't know, I don't use the word like third world country, but you see it like where's the people like it's like it's not like nothing really going on opportunity.

SPEAKER_03 52:22

Dominican Republic has been the number one vacation spot for like the past two, three years.

SPEAKER_07 52:27

That's what I'm saying. Outside of the vacation spot, you don't people don't really think that there's nothing going on over there, whereas there was like opportunity for you.

SPEAKER_03 52:35

No, it's that they sold the uh only two spots. Everybody, they tell everybody who over there, go to Punta Cana, go over here. That's a vacation spot, but it's not like that. That's what they sold y'all, because that's where the American resorts is at. But the whole DR is crazy, like crazy spots everywhere.

SPEAKER_07 52:56

Yeah, I come. Yo, I got a guy, one of my homies, he he, you know, African-American guy. He was actually up here on the podcast. He's talking about go there all the time.

SPEAKER_03 53:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 53:04

He like, yo, you gotta go over there. I'm telling you.

SPEAKER_03 53:06

It's like like like Santo Domingo is like New York City. You see dudes wearing what we're wearing, like jeweled up, Lambos, all of it. Hmm. All day.

SPEAKER_07 53:18

Now, another thing I want to say, like the prisons over there. I'm I'm assuming the prisons over there. We be thinking about the prisons over there. I'm thinking the prisons over there is actually really, really poor.

SPEAKER_03 53:26

Like, it's like prisons got clubs over there inside.

SPEAKER_07 53:29

Inside the prison?

SPEAKER_03 53:30

Clubs. Bring women in there. Are you serious? Yeah. They're serious.

SPEAKER_07 53:37

So they got music and clubs. So they got prison, is they got that.

SPEAKER_06 53:41

I wouldn't mind going to jail. Yeah, it ain't nothing that would restore me from killing somebody. Nah, I really should. I'm taking man niggas jump out there, I'm butting the dancing, bro.

SPEAKER_03 53:51

Bro, there's been points in the other that dudes got so much proof that they'll they'll cops to take them to the clubs and then hold on, bring them back, they'll lead the prison with the cops.

SPEAKER_07 54:02

So are they coming there with their prison um uniform on and then and then going back with changing their clothes?

SPEAKER_03 54:06

They going like normal people, everybody normal.

SPEAKER_07 54:11

Wow. Y'all heard that like so you in prison, you in prison going to the club. It's not for everybody, it's like for exclusive people that certain people that can.

SPEAKER_06 54:20

I mean, you just gotta have a couple, a couple dollars. You don't don't dump me a deal, you gotta have some money.

SPEAKER_03 54:26

Nah, nah, nah, not like crazy money. No. You don't have to have crazy money. Stuff like that to get a thousand dollars to get you something like that. Yeah, party, yeah. Right. Yeah. So they in there, they got women in there. You could throw, you could get two girls, a bottle of wine, bottle of liquor, some weed, you can pay the caps. Or with a thousand dollars. And if you're a coke head, you can get some coke. With a thousand dollars.

SPEAKER_06 54:53

For one women, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we're gonna be doing that a couple times, man. We're gonna go ahead and let your own man, we're gonna do that, but four times a week. We're gonna do that every weekend. Facts. Man, if I had some years to do in there, man. I went to the prisons over there for six days. Oh, yeah? How was it?

SPEAKER_03 55:11

Is it I know it's way different from the prison over here. I was chilling. I was super chilling. I was sleeping with the police with AC and everything. Don't think the police over there is like the police over here. It's not like that. What's the difference? The cops run everything over there. They run the blacks, they run everything. They like us. Yeah. Over there, you you can't have a black if you don't got the cops running it. Oh, yeah? Yeah, they kill you themselves. Oh, yeah. The cops kill you out there. Yeah, it's a whole. You see over there, like if you steal something, you're not going to jail. You're getting murked. Like, if you're a robber, like if you hit up a 7-Eleven, you're not gonna, you're not, unless you go like turn yourself in with the news. But they go kill you over there. Niggas that's in jails, like niggas that sell drugs, stuff like that.

SPEAKER_07 55:59

Ain't no robbing. People be like, oh, that's that's off limit, because I'ma die if I do that.

SPEAKER_03 56:05

Like this, like, you rob somebody, they put you on the gram. You gotta go get a lawyer and go turn yourself in with cameras and everything. Because if you go to the police, they kill you before you get to the district. That's how they move out there. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_06 56:20

Yeah. Stay free, y'all. Don't be over there.

SPEAKER_03 56:23

Nah, you just gotta have security like me. You have security like me, you can ride around with everything.

SPEAKER_07 56:28

So security is a must. Yeah. Is it the robbers? Is it like robbers over there, too? Like, is it like for people like yourself, like have like a name, celebrity status? Is it people that's looking to, you know, that you that you gotta watch out for that maybe want to rob you?

SPEAKER_03 56:42

All day. But you see, I gotta, I'm, I'm a, because I gotta like, it's not like to talk crazy or nothing, but like I'm a different type of celebrity because it's like I'm respected. So it's like this dude's that kind of robbed, like, as you see where he's at?

SPEAKER_04 56:58

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 56:58

I seen dudes get robbed right there, and I'm right here jeweled up. He don't got nothing on him, but probably a little crossbag. And I done seen him got robbed, then I've been right here. And they don't touch me.

SPEAKER_07 57:11

So they they they picking, they picking and choosing.

SPEAKER_03 57:14

Yeah, nah, it's cause nah, cause over there, respect gets you a long way. If you got respect, they're not gonna they're not gonna cross them lines.

SPEAKER_07 57:22

What kind of gangs is over there and uh over there in DR? Is it like hair gangs or is it like you got a million?

SPEAKER_03 57:31

If you got three dudes, which when you call yourself this, that's a gang over there. But they don't run like that.

SPEAKER_07 57:38

Is the feds real rampant over there? Like the feds over there grabbing stuff over there?

SPEAKER_03 57:41

The feds is over there now because there's a lot of um, there's a lot of dudes doing scam now from the US. Like what? Like what's they think? Now they putting money in people's bank accounts. You feel me? Oh yeah, I saw something like that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 57:54

You know it's crazy that they.

SPEAKER_03 57:55

That's why the feds is out there.

SPEAKER_07 57:56

It's crazy that you mentioned that. I mean, a couple years ago, probably like maybe I don't know. I'm gonna say, I don't know if I'm gonna say 10 years ago. They was caught, they was they was hiring people over here to do that, like to do like to transfer the money into their account and so forth.

SPEAKER_03 58:08

I know a lot of millionaires over there, like really real, real rich dudes doing that right now.

SPEAKER_07 58:14

Hmm. Facts. So they just putting the money and people was burnt. Because I know I know a guy that burnt them, like, like, like took the money and and stepped off.

SPEAKER_03 58:22

Yeah, they do that all the time. But then they catch their little cousins and and what was left over there.

SPEAKER_07 58:29

Yo, that's crazy. That's crazy. But so you so now you moved to you moved to your moved to DR, and what what was your main reason for moving over there? Like, I know I I know you said, you know, because you got over there and your mom, yeah, your mom was was ill or whatever, she had to get some things taken care of. Like, outside of that, was well when did you know that you wanted to stay? Like, like we said, I'm I'm staying here, like this is where I want to be.

SPEAKER_03 58:52

And immediately, I told you, like, a couple days, I already knew because it was different. Like, everybody was treating me like some, like, you feel me? Like, I was trying to been doing music, been doing everything, and it wasn't like working at the time. But as soon as I got over it, it was like, Who are you? You're an artist. I'd be walking in the streets, and people just be like, I went on TV a bunch of times. Soon as I got over there, like a week later, I was all over the TVs and everything. But it took me like two years to like really take off and go viral and be like a known celebrity, like an established celebrity right now. Like, there's not one celebrity in DR that you ask about me that they don't know.

SPEAKER_07 59:32

Do you see yourself going to prison?

SPEAKER_03 59:34

Who?

SPEAKER_07 59:34

Again?

SPEAKER_03 59:35

Hell no. I wouldn't put myself myself in the position.

SPEAKER_08 59:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 59:41

Yeah, I live. I just bought a villa in DR. Like, I live a good life.

SPEAKER_08 59:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 59:46

You know you told me, yeah, I could get more money in the streets right now than I ever did because of my status, but I'd rather live how I'm living. I'm cool.

SPEAKER_07 59:54

Listen, man, he got his 11-year-old son in here who uh who um drive cars, dirt bikes, four-wheelers.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:01

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:02

Everything.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:03

He's just hurting everybody know him out there, too. Oh, yeah? Yeah, when they don't see me, they they look, he got he got 400 um 400 followers on Instagram right now. He got 278,000 accounts reach. Dang. Yeah, he got reach. What's his IG? What's his page? Um Money King.26, right?

unknown 1:00:24

Space.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:25

Space 26.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:27

Yeah, you gotta see him, man. I I seen him, and then my guy, like, yeah, he you know, he he rides dirt bikes, four-wheelers, yeah, he can drive.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:35

And he drives cars and all that.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:37

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:39

Yeah, my friend, he's the biggest artist in Spain. He ran it, he's paid like 50 50k euros just to put him in the club. Yeah, he was in the club out there in Spain. We did a major concert out there with like 20, 20,000 people.

SPEAKER_08 1:00:54

Wow.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:55

Yeah. So, you know, your message, I know you say you do messages in the morning and do something something else at night. Uh, what prompted you to want to, you know, spread this positive message to people, or the motivational message to people that, you know, that kind of that watch your page or just people around the world. What what uh prompts you to want to do that?

SPEAKER_03 1:01:16

Me needing it myself. Me needing the message myself, and nobody giving it to me. So instead of talking to somebody, I just started talking to the cameras.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:25

Why is it why is it that you do you think that um that people aren't so quick to kind of assist one another nowadays? I mean, because it seems like everybody is for self a lot of times. You see it, we see it a lot. I mean, more so, yeah, I know you said you your crew and the guy that you're around.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:41

It's because of fear. You got $2, you're scared of losing them. But when you don't live with that fear, you don't care. Like, I'll give you $2 and stay with nothing, because I know I'm gonna be blessed with something else. People don't think like that. People doubt God too much. People don't have faith. When you don't have faith, you think you just get in things once.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:02

How do you feel about hardships? Because no, sometimes people the person can go through a hardship, a difficult time, and then sometimes people get to get to pointing fingers or complaining or you know.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:12

I feel like there's no excuse to bless somebody else. There's no excuse. I've been through it all. Like when I told you I was on the run, I used to sleep in a van. I got family members that'll let me stay outside, parked in front of the house, but they didn't want me inside because they didn't want me to they want nobody to break in their house. So it's like there's no excuse. And me staying in a van, I had gone to New York one time. One of my cousins had got kicked out of his crib and I was letting them stay in my van with me. You feel me? So it's like there's no excuse to bless somebody. Wow. When you have excuses to bless somebody, God has an excuse for you too. That's how I see things.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:54

You know, having that mentality.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:57

I was in jail with him, right? I met him in jail. Even after I came home, I used to send my mama somebody to go visit him. And I used to send somebody to his court dates. You feel me? Wow. Because it don't, it don't, I'm gonna be blessed. But look, he came back in my life. Wow. He's helped me a lot since he's been back in my life. You feel me? So it's like you never know.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:16

Wow. Because, you know, me and him kind of, me and him kind of share the same uh, you know, you know, uh relationship as far as how we, you know, deal with each other. Bond, the bond is strong. And sometimes the bond is based off of hardship because we've been through a lot together. I know I didn't do 21 years like he did, but you know, I was doing the time with him, you know, for the most part. And then now he's home and we we have the platform tell us from the jails, and it's like we we we we're building something together, and that's most important. Um why do you why do you think that people get to a certain point? You know, you know, this is a question I got, you know, and I I get asked this a lot, you know, why do you think people get to a certain point and money comes between them?

SPEAKER_03 1:03:59

Why the money comes in between people?

SPEAKER_07 1:04:01

Yeah, I'm just saying, you've because you see people get a certain get to a certain point and money comes between them, but the second part to the question, how do you prevent money from coming in between you and your guys that that that that you care about?

SPEAKER_03 1:04:14

I mean is that the person who you gotta have next to you gotta be just like you. Like at the like if I got a pair of sneakers, you ain't gotta hear all that now. Cause I know you're gonna do that for me later. Gotta be like the same mutual gotta be a mutual agreement. Cause when it's not, that's like when you're not when you're not up front with things, that's when the problem start coming. You feel me? And you're gonna know when your partner is too greedy. You're gonna understand that. Yeah. And remember, there's a God and a devil, so it's always gonna be a good one and there's always gonna be a bad one. You feel me? You just always gotta be the good one. Why is it remember it don't matter if you're if if your partner gets over on you. You ain't getting over on God. You're gonna get there later.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:04

You're right. Right. People always forget about that. People forget about everybody thinks. They they they they might snake you, but they forget that even at the end of the day. Somebody always watching. Yeah, God is watching you. You can't just sit up here, you might get up, get over on me because I can't, I can't kind of see it at the time, but you're gonna owe me at some point.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:24

Yeah.

unknown 1:05:26

Wow.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:28

How do you, you know, how do you deal? Like, you know, if if you were able to, if you were ever able to, you know, sniff something out like that, whereas if somebody had did something foul or you know, committed something against you, how do you deal with them? Do you immediately cut them off or do you what do you do are you personally like, no, I'm gonna give them another chance?

SPEAKER_03 1:05:44

Nah, because look, you can't let nobody change who you are. Mm-hmm. So you always gotta do what you feel. Yeah. So if you feel like forgiving them is what makes you feel good, you gotta forgive them. You can't just cause he was. He did you dirty, do him dirty back. Do you keep him around you? Do you keep him around you though? No. I mean, you can't keep some somebody who do something now, they're gonna do it again. People repeat. People tend like we at an age, people don't learn how to age. They get moderate. They like they bad habits, they learn how to control them. They don't, you don't get rid of your bad habits.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:27

You just know how they learn how to suppress them at times. But you just gotta, but it'll show at some point.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:31

It's your world, you can't let nobody can ruin your world. For sure. If somebody do something to you, you just gotta move. And let them be the pieces of shit they are.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:39

Yeah, you're absolutely right. What you gonna say, yeah?

SPEAKER_03 1:06:42

No, but I forgot, basically.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:44

But go ahead.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:45

Yeah, so um when you when you have you know success, right? And you have people around you that's helping you along the way of success, sometimes jealous, the jealous, the jealous factor comes in. How do you deal with that? Like, you know, for example, like it might be somebody, because nine times out of ten, sometimes you may, you may, you may have a friend like, like, this, this is this is this is my brother, this is my friend, like that's your brother, that's your friend. It may be some other people that's in your family, that's actually your blood, really your blood, and it may feel like you're giving opportunity to him over them.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:18

Nah, bro, is that you can't, I don't I don't never let nobody become in between mine's and his relationship. Because my mom's relationship and mine's ain't the same as mine's and his.

SPEAKER_08 1:07:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:28

So my mom don't know him like I know him. So even I won't even let my mom get a negative idea of him. You feel me? Yeah. Before she even think negative, I'm gonna correct it, like, nah. Yeah. He's like this. You feel me?

SPEAKER_08 1:07:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:41

It's important.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:42

So basically nip it in a bug.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:44

You say what?

SPEAKER_06 1:07:45

I say, so basically you nip it in a bud. Yeah. Like right when it starts, you hold.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:50

Yeah, you got you can't Is that when you you can't let you can't let things prolong like that? Things like that, like a negative comment about you. Because then if he allows that now, it becomes a constant thing. It'll grow. To the point where it's gonna get into his head. Right. So if you cut it from the from the from the rib, it's just not gonna go nowhere.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:11

You know, it's like, you know, when we um when we're trying to reach it, reach a a certain plateau, a plateau, or uh when you have a team and you're trying to reach uh get to a common goal, um, they always say that it's always the closest person to you that tries to harm you the most. Um and a lot of times it can be, I mean, I'm not no disrespect to the females out there, but a lot of times it can be your significant other, your female closest to you, man. How do you deal with just your close your significant other or your females in your life, or or a female that's trying to derail you from uh obtaining success? Sometimes they can be selfish.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:48

Women is, I mean, women is always they're always thinking about themselves first. But I don't let like women derail me, like it's like I told you, it's my world. Like you can't come derail me from you don't know my goal. So if you don't know my goal and you don't have the vision and you don't have nothing to add to my goal, you can't derail me from it.

SPEAKER_08 1:09:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:12

You understand? That's the way I move. Like, I'm very like, with women and everything, even my baby mom's like, I'm like, I got my my vision on whatever I'm doing.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:24

So you locked in.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:25

So no matter what they do, if they don't get on the boat, it's just getting left. At the end of the day, look, I get older every day, right? They would they 10 years younger than me. In 10 more years, where I'm gonna be at. Assed out, right? What they gonna be doing? They're gonna be fresh looking for another nigga like me, this right now. So I'm not worried about them. I'm worried about what I'm gonna leave my kids, my legacy.

SPEAKER_08 1:09:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:52

Right. Right. How do you like, you know, a lot of times people have a problem differentiating between just differentiate differentiating between the two. They had they they can't really, you know, see past a beautiful face or whatever. They can't really see past it because, you know, whatever they they blinded by it. But you gotta look at everybody. This is just me, you gotta look at everybody. Whenever somebody shows you who they are, you gotta believe them. That's just that's just that's just how I how how I move. That's a fact. Um, you know, because if you don't believe them when they show you who they are, it can it can get you later on down the line.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:29

It's that God, God shows you everybody before they do something wrong to you. God don't just leave you go to the wolves. No, God shows you everybody in your life and multiple times. Because if he's a snake with him and the snake with him, what makes you think he's not gonna be a snake with me? So after I let him snake him and him, then he can't snake me. I'm gonna be mad at who? You you gotta be mad at yourself. Exactly. So God, God, God ain't gonna leave me alone. He's gonna show me he's a snake.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:58

But y'all don't believe that people evolve though as a person. Because I know I used to be into some treacherous stuff, I used to be both.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:05

Yeah, but you could be treacherous stuff, but not a snake to who you are. Yeah, but you wasn't being a snake to your friends.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:11

If you're doing treacherous stuff, you're not you, you're not, you know, you wasn't the person that's riding the car with your best your homie, like it should be that if you do that, you get it, yeah. You go you trying to try and take him up off and he g he got some money in the trunk, he trying to figure out a way to run.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:25

I mean, I did some stuff that wasn't cool that I wouldn't uh approve of now as a grown man, but but you think okay, all right.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:31

So, but like I I agree people can change. We're talking about when we have like I'm gonna have a relationship with somebody, like if we you my man, we together, and then you do some foul stuff and snake me, that means our relationship is done. Now, you if you was like if you was if you do some foul stuff before we got together and you change, I only can judge you off of what you did when you with me.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:50

But look at this that's from your upbringing, though. Yeah, if you're raising your kids the way I'm raising my kids, you think my kids is gonna go do that? Right. They gonna snake somebody when I don't allow them to talk about nobody. So it's just uh your upbringing. That's why dudes gotta be in their kids' life. A woman can't raise a man.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:10

What's some of the advice you give you, um what's some of the things that you implement in your sons? That's you got your boys with you and you stay always with you. What is something you put in there you implement in that?

SPEAKER_03 1:12:19

I don't, I don't, I don't let them backbite. I don't like, I don't disrespect is like unacceptable because they see what I do when people disrespect me. Like, I try to teach them as best as I can. But backbiteing is one of the things I I teach them this everything you see, you don't say and think before you talk. Because everything you think, you don't say neither. Yeah, man. And don't steal, that's number one. Cause when you let them steal, you know, stilling gets you to another level. Yeah, that's a gateway. That's the gateway to all types of bullshit. Exactly.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:56

Yeah, facts. I was told that you can't never trust a thief and a crackhead. Facts. I learned that early. A thief and a crackhead?

SPEAKER_03 1:13:05

Nah, my mom used my mom, that's one thing I was raised with the non-stealing shit. Yeah, my my my pot would have I might have lost a finger. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:13:15

So, you know, we're gonna probably take some calls for anybody out there want to ask you some questions because I'm pretty sure we got we got, you know, a lot of people in the chat. So you want to probably, you know, uh take some calls in a minute to have a lot of people speak to to speak to you in regards to, you know, the man want to ask you some questions. So the numbers are 215-316-4492. That's 215-316-4492. Y'all can call in and y'all, if y'all have any questions, y'all can ask whatever y'all want to ask, man. You know, it's to up to him to answer it. Um now, you you said you had this thing going on, whereas though you, you know, you're um, you know, you're you had your celebrity, you have a lot a lot of things going on. How does it feel for you to be in a space where as though you, you know, you're able to provide for your family, you know, by doing something legit.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:01

That's the best part of it. Because we growing up, we ain't we ain't know what we can't get a dollar legit. So now when I get them little YouTube checks, them little Spotify checks, and the the little walkthroughs and and the shows and whatever we're doing, it feels great. Yeah. It feels is a is a different feeling for sure.

SPEAKER_07 1:14:20

It's crazy you said that, man, because you know, Spotify is like Apple Podcasts, man, don't really pay you, man. But Spotify do pay you. Yeah. Spotify pays you. Yeah, I just I just saw the other day on our platform. I was like, wow. That's where I get the most checks from. Spotify. Yeah, Spotify is something serious. Um, you know, and just to go back and just speak about like the you know the the the um legit money. Legit money, once you're making from my my my opinion, when you're making legit money and making money legally, it's it's a di it's it's it's different. It's freedom. It's different, man. Because you know, we we've all made money in the streets, and we make money in the streets just like you like this, considering your shoulder, you scared, you know what I'm saying? You you you just you don't know who to trust. But now to enjoy like that. Yeah, now you I mean, you get it, you get paid to do what you want, this should do what you like to do.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:17

You ain't you ain't trying to go to jail, you ain't gotta go to jail for it. I just do where I wake up at every morning, man. Countryside, birds, whole everything. Yeah, it's like totally different. I can't imagine it a couple years back. All your kids living uh dear with you? Nah, just the 11-year-old. You get in your and you come back and forth, but I'm pretty sure they they they be wanting to be with you though. Nah, yeah, no, they're about to go with me next month for the for the vacation. Every time there's a vacation, I come get them.

SPEAKER_08 1:15:48

That's what's up, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:50

How important is it is it to you to to be a father? The most important, that's that's the number one, that's my number one job. Is it hard to raise girls or boys? I mean, girls, girls is disrespect more disrespectful. They get smart faster, right? Yeah, because they feel like they're untouchable. Any advice for the guys out there raising daughters? Um, don't be too hard on them. And so that's what drives them away. Being hard on being I knew when my daughters um lost their virginity before their mother. Cause they was comfortable enough to tell me before before they told them. How'd you feel about that? Just knowing that that that happened. I mean, I'm I I'm accountable for my actions. I can't put a stop on nobody. I can give you an advice and you can listen if you want to. Yeah. And if you don't, then you be like, they are now. I'm the same way you are. Asking me for help. I'm the same exact way you are. You're right. They all get go full circle and come right back to you. Come right back, yeah. I got grandkids and all of them. Oh yeah? I got two of them, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:02

I feel like the Latin community started prompting me in like a lot younger age. Young age? Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:07

Yeah, I had my first kid when I was 16. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Man, I had my first kid till I was what, 20, 21? It took me a minute. Yeah, you started late. Damn, six. I started late. I had like that time. You had what, two, three kids? Yeah, at that time. Yeah, for sure. So you got like, what you got? You got like you got like 30 years old. You got you got you got kids like pushing 30 or 20 when they're 20s?

SPEAKER_03 1:17:32

21? Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:33

Hmm. Yeah, my son 21. I got a 21-year-old son. So who listens more though? Like for you, like who listens more, like boys or the girls?

SPEAKER_03 1:17:42

None of them listen. Kids don't listen. Kids are just kids, man. Yeah, they don't listen. They don't listen until they start going through the real stuff, real life. The bills, the going in trouble, going to jail, violence, headaches. That's why I try to, but I try to keep a grip, a tight grip on the boys, because you know, they're more liable to commit crimes than a female. So shout out to Detroit, man.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:09

Detroit tapping in, you know, they they they they uh my guy Seven and Wolf. Now you got um, you know, you got you you had you have you have some things that you are looking to do. So if you can kind of sum up your your plans for the next year or two, what is it that you want to be doing? What what's your what's your you know, I know we don't want to give away your actual your goals or whatever, because sometimes you gotta be secretive a lot of that stuff. But what I'll say this, where do you see yourself in the next year or so, two years?

SPEAKER_03 1:18:41

I mean, we work in we're working major stuff this year even better than last year. So I think we're trying to get into the elite, like you feel me, the private flights and all of that stuff. So we we're gonna be going for that. So we could be up there by next year. I mean, we already got the plugs. I'm I'm plugged into every major artist in the world right now. At least in the Latin community.

SPEAKER_08 1:19:10

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:11

I got a couple of collabs, two major collabs, that I'm gonna put out. I mean, you won't do one with Al Bow. I like Al BI.

SPEAKER_06 1:19:18

Yeah, Al BIO up here. Shout out to Al BIO, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:20

Shout out to Al BIL. I like him. He's from New Jersey. Yeah. I used to record in the studio, he used to record it. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Of EVR.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:28

Al BIO numbers is uh it's a good dude, man. Man, I'll be out. He came and seen us by itself. Dolo. Dope, yeah, dope, dope. Mm-hmm. So, you know, um, you know, like I was saying, you know, some what do you where do you like see yourself uh in, you know, in the next one or two years, like, you know, and you mentioned that you, you know, you want to get to the to the elite level. Um what are some of the important uh factors or some things that you think you need to get to that level?

SPEAKER_03 1:20:02

Um I gotta be ready for it. Just gotta be ready for it because that's that's a different level. I've been I've been there already, I seen it. I already did all the elite stuff, so it's just like precision ourselves out there. But like I tell you, we we was just at a 20 20,000 people on the show in Spain a couple months ago. Do you ever see yourself like move moving back to Philly? Nah, hell man. I mean, nothing against Philly. We know everything we know from Philly, but I don't blame you. I'm trying to get a body too. Philly's a Philly's a place for you to not to forget where you come from. Exactly. You come here, you two days, three days, cool. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:20:47

So how much family you got? You got a lot of family here in Philly?

SPEAKER_03 1:20:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:20:50

I mean, all my kids is here. Wow. Yeah, man. Whenever I'm in DR, man, I'm gonna come out there. I'm gonna hit you up, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:58

You have to. If you don't, you ain't go, you ain't go.

SPEAKER_07 1:21:00

Yeah, you gotta come out there and show me around, man. You gotta show me around because it like you said, everybody go to you know the the spots, the same spots.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:07

That's not what you want, man. On the resort, he did that too. And I he was on the resorts, yeah. Yeah, and then I called him over one day. He seen what was going on the next flight. He went over there, asked him how crazy he was.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:19

Definitely a different experience than you got funny, June and off the resources.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:23

Yeah, in the clubs, bodyguards getting them. Oh, he's with such and such artists, is everybody asked him was different.

SPEAKER_07 1:21:32

You know, this is a story, man. You know, you know, it's the person who came from, you know, committing some crimes or being involved with some criminal activity, and then now, you know, serving this time, it was six months, whatever, went on, been on the run for five years, two years at that time. But it was his hardship because he was in there. You know, prison, no matter if you were in there for a month, two months, when you get in there, you're gonna feel you, you're gonna feel prison. You're gonna feel no matter you in there for a month, you you're gonna actually feel the actual effects of prison because prison is the oppressive state, you may, you know, and you gotta get in there and make the best of it. Not only was he in there, he got stabbed multiple times, he got stabbed in there multiple times, you know, and that's crazy. Well, what about that lock in that sock? You ever seen that happen this morning? I ain't seen that happening, but I heard about it.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:16

Yeah, he always talks about that lock in that sock, man, all the time. See, you got to see it, you got to see it. See, it's one thing to hear about it. You will hear something vicious about it, but when you see it, I seen the sober in the sack.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:26

Well, that's the same thing. That's that that's the same thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:28

I got hit with a lock in the sock, and dude instantly broke my hand. Yeah, damn. Instantly broke my hand.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:34

That locked with a lock in the sock and it broke your hand. That joint like it blew it up. Boom, as soon as it touched it.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:39

I was in a hole when my hand broke for like two months without no medical feed or no knocking. So what happened?

SPEAKER_07 1:22:46

You try to block it?

SPEAKER_02 1:22:47

Yeah, no, I tried to block it. I did he I I put him right while he was trying to, you know, fix the lock in the socket and then I ran in the cell and he swung it and broke my hand at the end.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:56

Anything that thing touches is gonna break. Damn, what was this at in the county or upstate?

SPEAKER_02 1:23:00

This is upstate. This is upstate. Uh SCI, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:05

Damn. See, that lock in the socket broke it, broke his hand instantly. Hit him in his hand. So, you know, where can they find you at, man? Where can people reach out to you, man? What can they, you know, what platform is you on? You know, what you got, you know, where can the people reach out to you if they want to get in contact with you?

SPEAKER_03 1:23:20

I'm on TikTok at money june, money J-U-N-E 444, three times the four. And on Instagram, same thing.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:30

So yeah, you know, make sure make sure y'all tap in, man. Make sure y'all go out and check them out. Make sure y'all get some motivation early. You said 7 30 in the morning?

SPEAKER_03 1:23:37

Every day in the morning, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:39

Every morning. So this is a different message that you're driving every morning.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:41

Yeah, every morning. Mostly about guiding um like progression.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:48

For sure. I got I gotta check you out for sure, man, in regards to that, because you know, everybody needs a little bit of motivation because we never know what the next person is going through. Like, sometimes we be going through going through stuff, and it could be the same stuff.

unknown 1:24:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:24:00

That whatever you're going through, I'm and I may need that, may need that push. Because we all go through hard times. Facts. So I'm gonna ask you this last question before we go. What motive what motivates you the most? What is it? Is it your kids? You know, what you know, money, what is it that motivates you the most?

SPEAKER_03 1:24:16

Um my family, but like just I got a lot of messages of people that I changed their life through my message. That motivates me.

SPEAKER_07 1:24:28

Okay. Wow. And one lap, I'm sorry, I know I said one. This is the last question. No, yeah. You know, we never know when we're gonna die, when we're gonna go. We never know. Nobody knows their time, their expiration date. If you was to, you know, leave the day or tomorrow, God forbid, what message would you want to leave to your kids or leave to the world? What's what's the message? What's the one message that you want to leave right now for everybody to see, you know, for your kids to see, you know, if they were ever to go back and watch this footage, what message would you want to leave for them?

SPEAKER_03 1:24:58

I um to take the best, the like the best that I gave. Not the worst of me. All the good things only. Because the bad things is what we don't show. Because we don't want people to see.

SPEAKER_07 1:25:11

Okay. Well, listen, y'all. Y'all heard it here first, man. Make sure y'all go check my guy out, man. You know, he's on all platforms. You know, heaven DR, hit him up. You know, they over there having a blast. I'm about to go over there and try to see what it's like, you know, go kill over there in the villa or something like that. You're not gonna want to come back and kick my feet up, man. So listen, man, I want to thank everybody for tuning in to this episode of Tells from the Gels, which is sponsored by TNS Media Group. I want to thank y'all for coming through for showing love and being a part of the Tells from the Gels movement and whatever y'all got going on, how we can support y'all, whatever, whatever. Same thing. We can we can make it happen.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:49

For sure.

SPEAKER_07 1:25:50

For sure. And uh, young man, anything you want to say before we get up out of there?

SPEAKER_06 1:25:53

It's Friday night. You know what I'm gonna say. Please, everybody, man, stay safe. You don't want to get locked up tonight. They ain't letting you out the Tuesday, Wednesday. Do not go to jail tonight, man. Be safe, man, for those who do indulge in drinking. Do it modestly for the ones that don't drink and they out there having fun, man. Be just be cautious of your surroundings and be mindful of the next person beside you. That's all. You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? And that's it, man. We meet back up here Monday, man. But no one is exempt from going to prison. Don't never forget that. No one is exempt. So be cautious and mindful and watch your kids.

SPEAKER_07 1:26:29

Exactly. And don't forget this weekend, y'all got crazy clips coming y'all way and a bunch of content to come. We have an array of content coming out.