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Mizz clothes stopped by the studio to talk with Braheem and Tawfiq about current news and topics. The host broke down the importance of having awareness of people and knowing your surroundings. 

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SPEAKER_10

What's up, what's up, everybody? It's Tells from the Gels. We're here live in Pyrooms, USA. TNS Media Group with the team and the family. I'm my counterpart, Mr. Braheem Jackson. We got a guest uh who was up here before with us. He's back for round two. You know, uh the Tell us from the Gels, you know, conversation. My man Miz. Yeah, I know. What's the aka the bull?

SPEAKER_00

The book dog Miz Clothes. But it can be the bull, though, too. It can be the bull. Yeah. It can be the bull. The bull with a nice drip.

SPEAKER_10

Yeah, so we'll listen. So, you know, uh Tellsman Gels, once again, I want to put it uh the slammer out there. Tell us from jails. We do not glorify prison in any way. We do not support individuals committing crime and going to prison. Uh, we do not uh look at prison as a place, uh five-star hotel, any of that prison is a place that you should not go, should not break law. So let's get to this this episode, man. What's up, Miz? What's going on with you, man?

SPEAKER_00

Um chilling, man.

SPEAKER_10

You know, last time he was here, we were talking about taking everybody to Palmer, the girls, the Palmers, when they get out of cra go crazy. You know what I'm saying? A lot of uh jail stories, a lot of stuff is going on.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I be I told y'all, you know, I watch all the time. Yeah, black, you know, black, black is funny. I mean, black be on point with his with his jails. Sometimes you over exaggerate a little bit.

SPEAKER_10

Yeah, he and then that then and then that phone right there. He'll not he'll not put that phone down.

SPEAKER_00

No, no, I'm talking about the YouTube chat. Oh, I thought you said you was on chat GBT. Would you need that to be on the pod? What's going on with that?

SPEAKER_09

No, no, no, the YouTube chat or the guests checking in. Yeah, yeah. Oh, okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_10

Shout out, let's get to let's get to the guys that's in there, man. We got uh we got a pletcher of people. We got uh Grime Gang Clips, we got uh battle tested uh trucker, you got 7M Wolf, you got Nate, uh uh say Net Nate the G, 3590. We this everybody, John Michael, we got a lot of people in here, man, right now, man. And it's gonna continue to uh you know grow as far as the crowd goes, the people that's watching. So I want to get to this topic real quick because it's something that that was you know that was mentioned to me because um people understand that prison is is it can it's a violent place, but like you said, people exaggerate a lot.

SPEAKER_03

Right, true.

SPEAKER_10

Um if your son called home and said that he got raped in prison, how you dealing with that? What's going on?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's nasty work right there. Let's start there first. That's yeah, that's that's vicious.

SPEAKER_10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

When when when your son it's and then you it's bad because it ain't nothing you could do. Unless you want to go to jail. You want now, me personally, my son, depending on where he at a county, if he's upstate, that's a different ball game. But if he down the county, I might got to, you know, I might gotta go get somebody to put some false charges on me. I gotta get up in there because that's that's that, yeah, that's that's that's something you really can't that mentally will really ruin a child. Well, you know, he'll be still gonna be your child, even if he's a dealt. But I'm just saying the the mental anguish that a man goes through knowing somebody done bust you open.

SPEAKER_03

That's vicious.

SPEAKER_00

No, so I'm just saying that's serious, yeah. Right, I seen now we've talked about it before, it's not nothing funny, but I'm just saying I I've been upstate. I've been up, like I'm telling you, I've been upstate with the with the vicious booty banded boys and all that, and they specialize in this shit. Specialize in, you know, they're predators, they're tactical, vicious, vicious pedophile predator bulls. You think what I'm saying? These bulls is and it's crazy because they gotta they they they they they they professionals at that type shit. Groom you. That's why I said you got to be careful. You go into jail, you don't know what's going on, you're trying to fit in, you still think you're on the street, you want to go to jail, get on, get high, smoking and all that. Oh, you want some dudes? Yeah, fine, okay. You're gonna be all right, but your ass is gonna be ruined. You feel what I'm saying? You motherfucker putting shit in there, the jailhouse hooch and all that. I seen it put the quine in there and then and pills, they got pills up state that have had you sleep for days. The city quine, ham dogs, Elleville, all that type shit. And they putting that, shaking that, they they they calling it a cottil, too. Yeah, because but it's really it's really gonna be a cot a tell. Yeah, they're gonna do something to you. But yeah, but back to what you were saying, uh your child call home, yeah. That's that's I as a father. That's like I know that's that's that that's just gonna hit your heart. Because because your son, for your son to be able to even tell you that, that's deep in itself for your son to be able to endorse that to you. Like, yo, I don't even know how you how that just has a man, you're gonna be able to tell your father, like yeah.

SPEAKER_10

What do you say to your son? Like, what do you say to him? You just listening on other than the phone, you're like, Yeah, they just did this to me, man. Like, how do you even respond to that?

SPEAKER_00

Um your first reaction is gonna be like, uh you gotta find a way to get out the cell. Like, I don't know if that's the difference that I'm saying. If they just raped him or he does a celly, is that's what I'm saying? Yeah, if it's a cell, you got like, I gotta get my son out of there, I gotta call up the what's going on. Yeah, I need to talk to the superintendent. You gotta get him out of there. Like, my son going some shit going. Even if you don't want to tell them the you know what I'm saying, because that's gonna travel anyway. They the jail already know, like, oh, he went in there and did that to the end. That's fucked up. They already know.

SPEAKER_10

How fast they how fast they get out?

SPEAKER_00

They're gonna that's gonna know. They're gonna know that right after he get done because they know they already know what he's into.

SPEAKER_10

He didn't know the cell that you went in.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, they yeah, but but I'm saying when when well see when you even even even when people don't that's the thing I do like about jail, not like, but I'm just saying, like when you come through the county and stuff like that, and dudes is like that, people gonna tell you, like, yo, you're silly. Yeah, I don't know. Young, you gotta try to get by he a little, he a little weird, it might be a little kinky too. So you gotta be careful while you in there watching. You know what I'm saying? So put some people gonna give you a heads up, even they don't even know you because they you know that you know that's shit like that. Look, they they you that's frowned upon you doing that. You think what I'm saying? Especially if you in there with somebody that some that's somebody's son that pop pop uh uncle something might be hard, yeah. They did they gonna get at you about that? You feel what I'm saying? But like you're saying, uh somebody you know, we you know also we also get a little GL. I don't fuck with that nigga from out of town, he's from Chester. I don't fuck about that. Oh, he's from so-and-so, so you ain't from the city.

SPEAKER_10

I'm fucking oh, so the warning light don't go on for everybody, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So you know, some people they don't be, you know, got some people like my business.

SPEAKER_10

Oh, so yeah, every car don't get a check engine light, you know, right?

SPEAKER_00

But but but that's like you said, like back, like not to get off topic, but back there going back to that, yeah. That's that's that's a vicious situation that the the hear that your child just been sexually assaulted in jail, like you know what I'm saying? He a lot of motherfuckers can't come back from that, they need to be lost, yeah. Because you go you'll keep playing that over your head, over and over and over. The rest of your life. That's what I'm saying, especially if you ain't do nothing.

SPEAKER_09

It'll cause you to kill yourself or kill somebody else. Yeah, both or turn into a uh uh uh essay predator yourself, yeah. That's that's that's what I'm saying. So a lot of them dudes that be on that, it happened to them when they was younger, right? Right, right. So now they now now they just going around and they so burnt out. Yeah, that joint is an emotional trauma, man. Emotional trauma, man.

SPEAKER_00

And and and and and and the the you gotta another thing that I be wanting people to know is that uh a lot of shit you see on TV, that shit don't be in Pennsylvania live. They a lot of what a lot of women really be thinking that like jail, nigga just go to jail, just be homosexual. Nah, that shit don't work like that. You got some people that's into that when they came in, or they might get into that while they there, but it's a bit to go to who they are around when they in the penitentiary or in the in the you don't you don't well I can't say that no more because now in the county giving out condoms. I don't understand that, but why the fuck are you giving out condoms in the county? In the county, you still got a chance to just slide back up. Well, why are you worrying about fucking in the county? Like, I don't understand.

SPEAKER_10

So, dudes be taking partaking in that type stuff already in the county?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, you got you got you got some boys listen. Let me say something, right? I don't want the young boys to kill me when they see me. But a lot of a lot of young boys real like they they sexuality a little they look real kinky. Cause you know, the bros will tell you they know this boy kinky. You see what the rapper bull, they he just got caught out, caught out the boss, or whatever the fuck his name is, boss rich, whatever the bull name is. Who one of the rapper bulls, I forget his name, I gotta ask my girl, but but the but the chick that he was messing with, Pity More Blast, he was having her buy all this anal shit and she knocking him knocking his back in, knocking him down, killing him.

SPEAKER_10

So but then you gotta see if my thing about that is you gotta be careful because a woman can get mad.

SPEAKER_00

Well, what get mad about what?

SPEAKER_10

Women can get mad and say, Yeah, he was he was into this and end of that. He vicious, you know, I mean, dildo, you know what I mean? Whatever.

SPEAKER_00

No, but I'm just saying, I what would you know with nigga with the nigga, whatever nigga do in their ditty rooms, that's that's all no. I don't I don't none of my business. You feel what I'm saying? What a man wanna do, and that's just black, you know, we don't, you know, you want to dodge in that blasphemy and all that. Fine. That's what you want to do, then I'm do you know that teachers on. But what I'm saying is I just want people to know that men that be incarcerated are don't it's just not a because they've been down a certain amount of time and all that. You think that at some point they had to dodge as some type of homosexuality.

SPEAKER_09

That's the stigma because they say better. Oh yeah, he did some homosexuality.

SPEAKER_00

That's what I'm saying. You do you had a thought and all that. No, that that they don't be like that. You got dudes that have been upstate 20, 30, 40 years, they might be going to school, Cali. This is because the the jails is it's just like it's a whole just a different world than itself. It's just that you are took away for some because you got bulls, you know that bulls get active up there with the COs. You got some of these little, these little them foreigners, you know, them Europeans, they they be giving it up. You know what I'm saying? Catch them in the kitchen, they get back there in the dough. He back there knocking their brains in, medical. It's a certain shit. Motherfucker get some ass upstate. Don't get it fucked up like niggas ain't fucking up there. They is with women. You got some people that you might get outside clearance. You had your wife come up, did your girl come up? They sliding up on a visit. You slide off in this foot in the woods, knock it down. You got some, you got some of these young boys born born down the fort. Yeah, which carry about to knock your mom brains in behind the vending machine and all that. You wonder how your dad been locked up 30 years and you 22.

SPEAKER_10

Mm-hmm. Which car said Jeff Gantt said that about uh his son. He made him in jail. When got killed, what's his name? Oh, the uh young young boy rapper.

SPEAKER_00

Um they killed him in front of his house.

SPEAKER_10

Yeah, I forget his name. Jeff Gant said he made him in prison.

SPEAKER_00

Jeans or something, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_10

Fat G's fat jeez, fat jeez, yeah. They said the guy who got blessing. The guy who was uh was accused or who girl accused him of um of being uh you know indulging in those uh blasphemy activities, like you said. Uh his name is Boston Rich, something like that.

SPEAKER_00

Right, him but now his girl put him out then and she don't, you know, they call it, she done gave gave up the you know the the evidence, the text messages, and oh yeah, I won't got this bait yet. Yeah, I'm on my way home now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm ready. All that time like that. These bulls be yeah, but a lot of that listen, man. A lot of that, yeah. I don't know, man. I I I yeah, uh a lot of boys be having penis problems, man. I don't understand it. Yeah, you feel what I'm saying? You know, I'm state we call it penis problem. A lot of boys have a penis problem.

SPEAKER_10

Well, so we got a so got a penis problem. What you mean?

SPEAKER_00

That you mean they they they they they horny, they they they can't control it. They horny too high, they horny be up on a thousand. Listen, you gotta bring it down.

SPEAKER_09

Well, we talked about earlier. I said my horny is not high, so a woman can't trick me off because I'm not running around like I was a young bull and I want to hit everything that's moving. I could be cool and cordial with a bad chick, but if she making advances at me or something, I might be like, but I ain't gonna be overdoing it with her. Yo, yo, what you think? Can I get some no niggas horny is be to the roof, bro?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and they'll not turn it off. You gotta you gotta shut that shit down like an iPhone and shit. Yeah, you gotta shut that shit off when you get in the penalty. You gotta when you go to jail, you gotta shut it off. You gotta cut that. That part of your life is over till you slide back out. Yeah, you can't. If you're gonna get there, you won't you wanna exercise your Ronnie romance while you're in jail, that's fine. With the COs, with the women, then that's cool. I ain't do I'm definitely with that. You feel what I'm saying? Knowing that you might be fighting some drama, whatever the case may be, maybe not no drama, but I'm just saying when you when you cross that line, it ain't no to for me, it ain't no coming back from that. Yeah, like we talked about before. I had you know, when the dudes that was doing that upstate, I was you know they was in the visiting rooms and all that stuff like that. Like that, it'd be coming and have I'm not thinking you said no, no, I was saying like a lot of brothers that was upstate messing with the homosexuals, messing with the the Shazus, right? Right, coming home, right? And then the last thing you ever want to see if you knew you you know for a fact this man was indulging in sexual activity upstate, and then you come in the crib and he and they with his with your sister. You for you who the fuck is he in here with?

SPEAKER_10

So are you what if she in love with my loving?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but the buttons, but that's what I'm saying. The bad see women is I don't want to go at the sisters, but you got a lot of women. I heard I say I heard what you got. Some women they be liking shit like that.

SPEAKER_09

There's a lot of women out here now that's gonna try your hands. A woman tried to me. I see you know want to eat in the ass tip and then try to doink me. And I'm like, oh, whoa, whoa, because I I got I've given me with my woman, I get horny. You know what I'm saying? But it's only a certain appointment get horny too. Like a lot of dudes be like, yeah, they don't get their butt eight, or he don't do this, or you know, I might indulge in that. And then she tried to bang me. Whoa, whoa, whoa ho. But they they they like everybody.

SPEAKER_10

Oh, what's your bitch out of it?

SPEAKER_09

Yeah, just seeing like she she she eating the joint, eating the joint, eating penis. Then she go down, swipe him. I'm like, Oh, okay, that felt a little cool. It's like a credit card, yeah. Swipe him again, and the next thing I felt some pressure, like, yo, what you doing? And she's like, Oh no, I was trying to put it in. I'm like, No, you wasn't. What the hell are you doing?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and I'm like, see, at that point, at that moment, the relationship is over, but no, it's not over just at the time because, like she said, she's saying we do the relationship might not be over, but it's definitely uh, you know, bisexual time, yeah. Hands, you know, uh uh oh you feel what I'm saying, yeah. Because that's the reaction, yeah. Exactly. But I told you about my girl, my girl see my girl be laughing, but my girl be playing like that, not like with the you know, the the you know, the the unauthorized air, but she get the play. I get the what's going on, and she gets the yo, whoa, that's that's not no, we ain't doing that. You think I'm saying, but she thinks it's funny, you know. You but you got niggas that we you know, brothers that be in there.

SPEAKER_09

So yo, you say we should have put a fist in like a fist? No, not the fist, because what you mean fist, that means it's in there. Yeah, you try to put the fist of fists.

SPEAKER_00

If they putting the fist in there, that's something already already been going on in there, yeah. Something already wrong here fit in it, yeah.

SPEAKER_09

But a lot of these women try that due to prior relationships where it was a go.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, because you got boys that be with that.

SPEAKER_09

A lot, especially.

SPEAKER_00

I ain't gonna lie. A lot of you you like you look at a lot of things where um they tell you that you get a lot of stimulation through the anus, but that really, you know, for us, you would be like, Oh, that's gonna be for the woman. It ain't gonna be for them, but but but it's for both, yeah.

SPEAKER_09

A man G-spot is in his wrecking, right?

SPEAKER_00

But women says too. That's why they like that's why you got a lot of women like double penetration and stuff like that, which is fine for the woman. You feel what I'm saying? You already you wanna do all that, we're gonna get a toy, and then I'm gonna give you when I get my shit done, we have everything done. But I ain't gonna, you know, I ain't gonna just be you ain't we ain't gonna be experimenting and all that. Like, all right let me turn you see what's going on, too. Nah, nah, that shit don't work like that.

SPEAKER_10

Yeah, see, it's having way too much fun, man.

SPEAKER_09

And then a lot of a lot of women do it to demasculate demasculise you as far as in the the the really nigga. You ain't no man. I was up in here and doing it. Right, because they go, they go once they get mad because they know it's something that ain't supposed to be done. That happened to you before. No, that never happened to me. But you hear chicks in the street like nigga, I'm uh doing this eating your ass and freaking fucking you and never said that to you before. No, then you keep going back to that. No, I ain't never said that to me before you. Ask it, man.

SPEAKER_10

You could so adamant about it.

SPEAKER_09

No, I keep uh you keep asking me. You asked me four or five times. I said no, you keep saying you never asked before.

SPEAKER_10

Because your your whole your whole your whole demeanor just changed, you just got angry.

SPEAKER_09

No, no, it wasn't no angry. I'm just talking about as far as in what a lot of these chicks is out here doing in a new society that we live in.

SPEAKER_00

Like they'll try it, they try it, they'll try it and I don't get mad at the chick for that. Why would you? I don't get mad if she's yeah, I'm getting mad.

SPEAKER_09

I don't fuck that. I'm getting mad. I'm I'm checking her. Yo, ho, chill, cool. I ain't oh, and then she's telling me, like, well, damn, this is where everybody, and then they say, but then they say, Well, how am I gay? How is you gay if I'm doing it? I'm a girl. Not on duty, man. I mean, I'm you you're you're not gay because I'm doing it, it's a girl doing it to you.

SPEAKER_00

So a woman, listen, you know what's crazy? Because when women when women say stuff like that, right? Yeah, I'll be asked them. I say, All right, that women is cool. You cool with what with I'll be asking, like, do you think that you gay if you had another experience with another woman? No, I I was trying that. You gay or you ain't blah blah blah. They don't look at it like that. They don't look at it like they don't think that they that's a that's a home. That's a that's a whole that's a a gay experience. You haven't doing something with the same sex, that's it's no different. So I said, Well, you don't think it's you you you don't see nothing wrong with two women doing something with each other, but you think that it's wrong when you when two men doing something. What was they even if it's your first time?

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It don't matter.

SPEAKER_00

If it's his first time, you're gonna always think that he's gay.

SPEAKER_02

You think what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00

What's a what you won't do? Yeah, he yeah, that thing, yeah. That dick ain't right. He let that boy go up, but them niggas don't. Yeah, so why what's the that's what I'm saying? I'm telling the black, like you can't make you making it double-ass source. No, it's wrong, it's wrong. You you gay and he gay, period. You have anything you do with another woman, you you are you is out of bounds, yeah. Find bottom line, yeah.

SPEAKER_10

Blow the whistle out of bounds. So um, yeah, but these the but these things just to want to uh reiterate something. A lot of times, just to go back to the to the kids, and if your child was ever went to a situation where he was actually uh you know taken advantage of in prison, um, like you said, that mental aspect, just to just for the person who posed the question to us, that mental aspect of your child is gonna be damaged because it's gonna be hard to get over that. He got to come home, he got to serve time, then he got you never know how much time he got. If he got a lot of, I don't know if the kid had a lot of time or whatever, but he got to go to jail, he got to go through that whole transition of knowing that that happened to him. Right.

SPEAKER_00

So he's gonna need therapy, a lot of different things, a lot of different things, and and and he might feel as though like my you ain't do nothing. So it could go that's what I said. That situation go a lot of different ways. Because by you, like you say, he calls home and he's telling his dad, and then he feels as though all right, let you know, and you you ain't do nothing.

SPEAKER_10

Yeah, what can I do?

SPEAKER_00

That's what I'm saying. What can you put?

SPEAKER_10

What can you do? You just want to come in there and commit a crime and come in here.

SPEAKER_00

I'm saying I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm gonna advocate for that. I'm being um with the upstate. Well, you know it's taking longer because it ain't guaranteed you're gonna get in the same jail. But down the county, I get down there.

SPEAKER_10

But you might not even you might not even make it to the same state. Uh yeah, state.

SPEAKER_00

I'm saying that's what I'm saying. State is different. Now, when if that happened upstate, it's like we gotta get him all the best. Whatever we gotta do to make this what I'm saying, because it he gonna be you're gonna be you gonna be fucked up, and then everybody that you know they're gonna know that that's that's gonna you know the bullshit the bull run down on it.

SPEAKER_10

What type of conversations do they have with the person that they happened to? Like damn boy, like man, like I'm talking about not the parent, because you know I'm talking about like the actual inmates in the jail that they know that happened to them. What do you say to them like that?

SPEAKER_00

You know the you know the crazy part, you know the first thing people gonna say, then you gotta sue the jail. That'd be the first thing motherfucker gonna tell you. They go, You gotta sue the jail.

SPEAKER_10

Is that a real thing?

SPEAKER_00

Like that's that's a real I'm that dumbs up to saying, but that's good. That's one of the first things people gonna say. You young boy, you got a case, you gotta sue the jail. You ain't supposed to been in there, they're gonna tell you all that. You ain't supposed to been in that cell, you let the COs know you gotta go do agree. All that shit is a process. Oh, also you just can't just sue. You can depend on how it goes. You think I'm saying? Because that's why they a lot of jails, they do things by age bracket, too. They ain't gonna really put you in with somebody that's way too older for you unless y'all sign a cell agreement. You feel what I'm saying? Now we agree to go in there, then that habit, then like, oh, you you want to go in there now. With that, we I put you in there like that. Can't pill, they don't care who they put with anybody. You can get in with that. You like they did you just putting anybody with anybody? You know what I'm saying? You know, I got a little one and two, little retail. You got me sell this board. This boy got murdered. Triple life, all that he just got sentenced, he on tilt and all that. He don't he don't care about nothing. He ain't got no. I'm I'll be home in 24 months. He be ain't he don't know when he's getting out. You feel what I'm saying? So it is it is random case whereas though you can, you know, but that's good. That but that's gonna be one of the first things that somebody's gonna tell them they you can sue. Instead of then they're gonna be like, damn, that's a fucked up situation, young. And all that, you know, the sympathy and all that and being empathetic and all that is gonna come in. You think we're saying, Motherfucker, might even offer me jail. You got getting me out.

SPEAKER_10

Is it better than is it better to be quiet about it and not tell the jail or just keep it keep under wraps the hell of your business?

SPEAKER_00

Well, you it ain't it ain't no being quiet.

SPEAKER_10

Yeah, we're being quiet.

SPEAKER_00

I'm saying because I'm saying because jail, it's it's it's it's really inedible for you somebody not to know that somebody getting raped in the cell. These walls is paper thin. They're gonna know, like, I don't know if them niggas over there fucking a fight and something was going on.

SPEAKER_10

Is the person who who's doing stuff like that? Is he like from y'all experiences? Do these dudes brag about it in the jails? Like, yeah, I just you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_00

I ain't never I but doing my experience, I never seen like uh nah, I never I I seen OH do that, but I never like seen him like, yeah, fuck them. I never seen because that's vicious. That's that's that's vicious that to do that and be standing on it. You stand on anyway, cause you know you did it is wrong. To be voisterous about it. Now, like probably with the with like back then, they probably when they were doing it to the white boy, like yeah, yeah, probably so. But like during my experience, I never seen now I I know that that that I seen that it happened, but I never seen the person be like, you.

SPEAKER_10

I mean, yeah, you mean and there is it any specific target, like in the feds or state, is it any guys um who come in there depending on their case, uh, their their their height, their stature, that are targeted by these guys based off of a certain cause sometimes like a person may be a a chomo or something and come through there and the guy may oh yeah, I'm I'm I'm I'm gonna get him because he may be I'm saying somebody that of that's weak. They're like, I'm gonna try I'm I'm gonna take advantage of this person.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that just yeah. I'm I I'm I'm not saying probably not like a structure because I've seen boys like the new bull. You like what the fuck is you doing?

SPEAKER_10

Like, come on, he taken take him down.

SPEAKER_00

No, I'm just saying, but with it though, you know what I'm saying? Like when up, yeah, when when when when I like I said when I first went upstairs, I told you I was a pup. When I first got up the rock, a lot of the young boys was they they the old heads, they was letting the they was get getting up under the wrong old heads, and the old heads that was into that, they would that's how they would turn them out. And then the crazy part, but once they turned them out, it was over for them. They just they just was known, just they would just pass them to the other old heads. Send him back tomorrow. That's cool. You feel what I'm saying? They would just once they turned them out, but I said a lot of them because like you said, they come in, they don't got no guidance, and they was coming in like they still on the street want to get high, chasing drugs and doing all the wrong shit, and they got up under the wrong old haze. And once you get them under the wrong, it's over because they got rap. Yeah, it's a dungeon. So that's what I'm saying. That that's why I'll be trying to get people to understand. Like, you got some people that that that that it do happen to that be do be getting, you know, raped and all that in jail, but but most of the most in PA, most of the time, the people that's into that, they're gonna that's they into so they they stay, they stay over there, they be over there. They don't they don't fuck with them. Like when I was up housedough, when I was up that when I was up housedale, yeah, that shit was vicious up there, man. Yeah, and the the homosexual rate up there, me and black can be tearing that shit up in the yard. We'll go right to the whole we might get 90 days. They catch it, they did see y'all seen these boys outside in the yard. Yo, what the fuck? Come on, man. Come on, come on, knock that off. Uh no, absolutely, man. I'm talking about listen. Anybody that was upstairs doing that in the yard, anybody watching this podcast that was up house that would have been the other jail, they'll tell you that what Miz is saying is a fact. I seen with my own eye, I seen two motherfuckers rumble, stabbing each other, go straight to the hole. I seen numerous of times COs seen boys out there having sex. Up the devs be certain parts of the jail, the yard that you ain't they got uh they call it uh gay, gay, gay beach and all that shit back. All the faggots back there active, sitting all in the back, motherfucking don't even go, guards don't even go back. They know what's going on. That's why I said a lot of times jail do promote homosexuality, they like that type shit. Because a lot of them be faggots, they be they they be they be faggots, they be real horny. Them lot them see them white people, they horny. So they like seeing shit. That's why I've said the mindset of of upstate. That's why I said this. You said we're not never glorifying jail because jail is that shit is vicious. You see, you you see racism at an all-time high when you go to jail. Every all-time high on every level, every aspect. You see racism at an all-time high when you go to jail, man.

SPEAKER_10

And who are the ones who um discriminated against the most? Is it African Americans, Mexicans, Ricans?

SPEAKER_00

Who would yeah. You got yeah, when they and when they see a lot of the white boys that be like in the ringle with the black, they don't fuck with them either. Are you with them niggas? They call them a wigger. Yeah, you with them? Okay, we go, you get treated too.

SPEAKER_10

A white nigga. A white boy who who deals with black guys is called a wigger. A wigger.

SPEAKER_00

To them.

SPEAKER_09

We don't call them that, but that's what the white books are. So this is what the guards call them? What the other white boys just like that don't deal with blacks and they got their own white little society over there, like the A-Bs and all that, especially in the Feds. A white boy might be from Philly, so he'll be 066, but he'd be like, man, I ain't on that A-B time with my homies. Because you got some thorough white boys that's cool as hell. Right. That they act just like blacks. Right. But the other white with the A B's knowing that, oh, that's a wigger. And a wigger is everybody that's been to the feds know what that is. It's short for a white nigga.

SPEAKER_00

You got because you got some white. I know, I know I know a few white boys that get active. They get active. I ain't gonna take that from the main. I'm just when I talk about the European, I'm talking about the authorities. I know some white boys that really get active in the state. Like, you know what I'm saying? Rumble, rumble, whoever. What's up? Line that shit up there. Let's get it. They ain't going there and rumble you. They might not win, they might, depending on the being. Well, I got some white boys matching energy, get the tan edge. That's what I'm saying. You know, I live by the rules. You get to get you throwing that shit, you don't know what you're doing, you're gonna be in trouble. Now you get to go on it then, you don't know what's going on. You go, you go and somebody have to tag in. So I'm gonna go, no, no, no, I don't like that shit going on. I gotta go help my man out. You think I'm saying maybe I'll let you know. Yo, boy, big as shit, babe. You I'm gonna go in, but you better get the fuck up in here. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Because you got some white boys that that they they rough. I got my man B. Yeah, yeah, I think B home there, but B did like 20, 20 something years, but he was with all that shit, though. He B was with him, rumbling guards, all that when in the whole SMU, all that. You think I'm saying? Yeah, but I'm just saying specifically back to the top of in there. You see, like, see when you when you're on the street, you know racism exists, and you know a lot of racist shit go on, you see through the media. You think I'm saying? Because you got some people that know racism exists but never experienced it, never synced it. Yeah, they you know it's there, but you never synced it. You never seen somebody just be outright. Now you stay see a lot of people see it now because Trump and all so all the ones that was hiding in the cut, now they come out, they feel comfortable to come out.

SPEAKER_10

Because Trump is now making it okay to say whatever say whatever, and he and you ain't gotta hide.

SPEAKER_00

You could be what I'm saying. Then when he's going, they all gonna go back in the hobby. Yeah, I mean with that no more. You know, fuck Trump ain't with it. But now that he out, they can come out, they feel comfortable. He was going, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, y'all stay in your lane. You feel what I'm saying? No, fuck that. Y'all been pussies, they go back with you. But see, Trump wrong him out. That's why I said you see it. See, now on the street, you can you see racism at a all-time high. But in there, they don't give a fuck about none of that. Trump, none of that is is is what's up. We let y'all know this is this is our world. We y'all just you know what I'm saying? Y'all just know that. But like we were saying, we're like, see, the A Bs and you know, certain race, you know, race groups, they they be like kind of in the tuck in the state. You think I'm saying depending on where you at, like Green County, shit like that, they be out. You know what I'm saying? Because a lot of races, right? But like in like other state jails, they be kind of like in the tuck. But see, in the fans, they white the white boys dangerous. Yeah, they with it.

SPEAKER_10

Yeah, they do, yeah, they'll kill you in the state.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, they'll kill you. They they they they with it. In the state, no, and then the feds, the state, they they you know, they yeah, they let they on ice and they know they know we get active. See, over there, you know, a lot of that is is the the rules is different. Yeah, the rules different in the in the in the feds to compare it to the state. You know what I'm saying? You don't really you don't you don't really see them getting goofy like COs, but not like you know what I mean, like how it is with in the Feds. Like, it ain't it ain't it's a different ball game.

SPEAKER_10

Let's get to this other topic. Um, I says earlier on Tuesday, Miami judge sentenced uh Jahara Malik, now 18 to 17 years in state prison, followed by five years of probation for the uh December 20th, 2024, fatal stabbing of her boyfriend, 17-year-old Joaquin Lowler in the parking lot of his apartment uh building. While Malik, uh sorry, while Malik, this is the girl Jahara Malik, she claimed that the stabbing was an accident during a like a horse playing playing around. Uh Lolars, who's the actual victim, his family and prosecutors said that the couple was having arguments because Lola was trying to end the relationship. Uh uh Malik, Sahara Malik, she pleaded guilty to manslaughter in March of this year, 2026. The judge found that a strict sentence is warranted because of the violence of the of the violence of the crime. So they gave her 17 years. This girl. If that was your son, would you be cool with that 17 that she got?

SPEAKER_09

Yeah, I'm a different, you can't ask me that question. I'm asking you.

SPEAKER_10

I'm asking this is a question.

SPEAKER_09

I don't want her in jail. So okay. Me, me, as the rehabilitated convict, I don't think things do normally like a regular normal person would. Like, I've been in there damn near all my life. All right, she killed my son, but I don't want her to I'm not sitting over here like, yeah, she got no, I think she should have had 25. I I I don't operate like that. I'd rather them let her out. And then if I chose to do something to her, now I'm just like, damn, all right, you killed my son, but I don't I'm not sitting here like she got 17 man, she should have got 40. I don't because I've been in jail all my life. Regardless, though it's happened to me because it's my son and it affects me emotionally. But it's like, damn, she's 17, he's 17, they kids. I'm looking at the whole thing of it. They play fighting and all that with the knives and all that. He ended up dead.

SPEAKER_10

Because we all had our girls in play with them our back that age, 17, yeah. Yeah, so they're wrestling around.

SPEAKER_09

Like for her to get sucked, like I'll be like, damn, they see. I'll look at the whole thing like, damn, she killed my because he was 17 too, right? Yeah, both 17. They babies, bro. They babies. And I look at it more like, damn, I should have been school. I know they in a relationship. Everybody family members know they dating each other. You know what I'm saying? They ain't just start dating last week. But me, from my mind, me, I I ain't gonna be sitting in there rooting for them to get more years and shit like that.

SPEAKER_10

So you're thinking about putting down a little 17-year-old. That's what you're saying. You you be your mind will be like, let her out so I can do it.

SPEAKER_09

No, no, not even, not even that. It's just like RS them. Like, I'm not, I don't, I don't, I don't want nobody to be in jail, bro. I don't the only ones I probably put in jail is pedophiles. This happened right here between two kids. She killed my son. So my son came out on the bad end of the stick. She got 17 years. I'm not in that courtroom. Like, think she should have got 50. Nah. That's adequate time. All right, she gotta do. I'm I'm cool. All right, she gotta do that 17 years, because that's a long time, bro. That ain't no long, no, no little bit of time, bro. 17 years, that's a life time.

SPEAKER_10

But she ain't gonna do that whole 17.

SPEAKER_09

Yes, she is. Well, it all depends on if she might got 17 and a half to something.

SPEAKER_10

She got what it's at 17 years. Well, followed by five years. Now, could they could they get could they give her this this is Florida, so could they give her like a straight sentence of 17 years?

SPEAKER_09

Or or did she probably do it? She's gonna do over a dime for a woman. She came to jail at 17. That's like that's gonna be traumatizing for her.

SPEAKER_10

She'll be 27 getting up still young.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I would I would say what you would do, miss. But black was saying that was kind of, you know, I I respect that. Yeah, I'm I'm not gonna be like an advocate for her to go to jail because then you gotta look at the circumstances of how it transpired, yeah. Like that's it. And then you gotta like you might know, like they was in a real good relationship. They wasn't, they wasn't abusing each other, they probably argue, but he wasn't beating on her, she wasn't beating on him. They and their horse playing, right? Playing with the knives, and this the timing was over boom, and then stuck him and it's over.

SPEAKER_10

But she stabbed him in the parking lot, though. This is the parking lot, that's whatnot in the house horse playing, it was in the parking lot.

SPEAKER_00

I was saying they probably was probably playing around. I don't play playing with my baby mom and she got the maze, and I'm playing, I'm trying to she tried to mace me, I try to maze her back, but somehow my dumb ass ain't paying attention. The mace was turned my way, and I mace myself in the house. You feel what I'm saying? Even though it wasn't to that extent where it's though, I'm just saying, but I would never I would never be playing with those knives anyway. Like I knew the knives is dangerous, yeah. But you think I'm saying they probably playing around not thinking, and and you know what I'm saying? Like the like the uh like the like the uh the little girl and the young boy they in the in the in the this was on in the on the gram. They did it on the gram. They was in the bathroom. Remember, they was in the bathroom playing with the with the with the gun, yeah. And the joint, the little girl put it up and then hit him in his head, yeah. And then she turned around and killed herself.

SPEAKER_09

Like shit, really be accidents, but it'd be a big price to pay with that. See, but me, I just think with another intellect because I've been in jail so long. Like, I'll be like, Damn, she killed my son. It wasn't malicious, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Now I could take it wrong.

SPEAKER_10

How you know though it wasn't malicious? You stabbed him in his chest, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But they in there wars playing around, playing around. You know, a lot of times we back in the day we got the knife, and then you get regular closer, then you turn it. Yeah, you gonna you know how many times the girl the girl ain't never picked up the knife up on you and chase you?

SPEAKER_09

I done had to pick the knife and chase you.

SPEAKER_10

I had it, man. I had went for the went for the one for the phone. What for the pistol? I'm talking about in the real heated argument.

SPEAKER_00

My babe mom had me. I was I ain't gonna lie, I was I was doing it because I was bitching. She was talking happy to me too. The kids watching, they with the gun in the hand, she had the pistol in her hand. I'm trying, and my mind was talking that shit. Pussy, I'll kill you right now. Say something. I didn't say shit. I said that like a bitch. I ain't got no head down. I had shit to say, but she had but the joint because I you know I you know we keep the shit capped on them. I got it on safety, she popped the safety off. I heard that shit. That's all she was and then my mind. So as I'm sitting there, she getting that shit on. You ain't that that but I'm now I'm I'm trying to wait for it to get kind of close to cut. So you can try to grab it. But I'm like, I gotta do it right because I want that shit to go over.

SPEAKER_10

I can take I can take a leg shot or something. Right, you feel what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00

But it's like but like you're saying, but that like in that instance by me trying to trying to grab it, and that boom, and she shooting like you hit me in the heart. I know she, I know we're man. My family, like you said, my family trying to bitch you shot exactly, but but but but I but but they looking at it like my kids, I'm like, no, he tried to get the gun from her and the shit went off. Now it could have been in that same situation. Like, all right, you playing too much, stop playing. And he tried to get it, and then she like stop, and then he she stick him in the heart and he's oh, he's gone. And she looked like, Oh my god, now she don't know what's going on. I know she probably I know she would she ain't mean to do that because even like even in the report, you could tell like they was they was playing, they was, but you know, family gonna try to when they when they because they hurt, they like you said, they hurt, they hurt, they're saying he was 17, she's 17. You think I'm saying so it's coming from their family. They you know the news set the media how they wanted to be set, they giving you uh they they only gonna tell you what the family's saying, they ain't telling you what the that what her family's saying. You think what I'm saying? They're gonna go to them, yeah. Yeah, she wasn't shitting. We all know that was lies, like them two. They was in love with it, they've been together since they was 14, whatever the case may be. You think I'm saying that she probably was overly playing, like I said, he probably tried to get the joint and stuck him. Now they didn't now they giving the report to the news. Oh no, she did it maliciously, she killed them, but have they all know they was out there playing?

SPEAKER_10

That's that's flip the roles around.

SPEAKER_00

No, before you put the roll around.

SPEAKER_09

You gave the answer and said that you wouldn't be rooting for her to get more time if that was your son. No. Now, say they gave her five years, she came home. Do you want to do something to her? No, but but but like me, I wouldn't want to.

SPEAKER_00

No, I'm just saying, I'm saying she did a time, whatever case it be. I might lose like the family always going to be mad. Exactly. No, because somebody's they date the child was gone, especially. Somebody ain't lived no like moments.

SPEAKER_09

How would you feel though, bitch? How would you?

SPEAKER_00

No, I'm saying it goes it go back, it go back to what I was saying. If I know that it wasn't done maliciously, yeah. Now I know she did that shit. Yeah, yeah. Every time y'all see Timmy, y'all knock her fucking brains in. Yeah, I'll fuck every time you see it, y'all bust her shit up. Yeah, but you know what I'm saying? Yeah, because I'm but I'm but I'm coming from a place of hurt. You think I'm saying you know, like you say, hurt people, hurt people. You feel what I'm saying? And now I know going in that that wasn't done wrong. You you ain't you like, come on. You we we we it's like like says a lot of instances where we can talk about where shit happened, like the little boy and the little girl in their horse wrestling. They've been watching WWE all day, parents nowhere to be found. They in there what they then he try to move on the little girl, put the little girl in the in the in the in the in the figure, some shit that the joint DT and take her back, boom, break her neck.

SPEAKER_10

And all of us had that instant where we put we wrestling and it hurt our neck. Right. That joint be crazy, all type of shit.

SPEAKER_09

But let me ask you, tall feet. You answer the question. Um would you want, would you want she killed your son? She killed my son. You right now tall feet today. Would you if she get 17 years? Would you want her to get more time?

SPEAKER_10

I mean, whatever they whatever they decide to get her to give her, I'm cool with that. Because I'm I'm just like, all right, whatever happened, I'm not gonna be like, all right, I'm gonna kill her, I'm gonna harm her, whatever. I just I understand that things like that can happen, like especially with because uh uh the emotional factor, we already know women are a lot more emotional, and whatever happened, not making the excuse for her, but she probably loved that man, loved that that that young boy, right? Right. Because you know, that's that they they at the age where he could have been the first man, first bull she was with, her feelings all tied, and that he could have been her everything. And he talked about man, I'm I'm moving on.

SPEAKER_09

Done with you, done with you. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_10

You know, we all been there, right? And you your girl, she started going crazy at that age because you broke her in, you didn't been with her, you the only dude she laid with. She loves you, she in love with you. That's the the first dude that uh that crack crack a girl, she she's in love. Even a lot of times to this day, it's some guys who mess with women who that they was their first and still can always get them, it can always come back and get it, even though she might have a dude, but I was with her first, so I got an attachment to her. You got a bond that nobody else says, Yeah, so she probably was going off of the emotional fact that she was in love with this man, and this man just young boy probably did something, not saying it's right, but young boy that was going to something, he might have talked to another girl and she did whatever, stabbed him, and now and now he's he's gone. But I would have still I would have been like, Man, it is what it is. I would just probably accepted it. But let's flip the role now. What?

SPEAKER_00

But you gotta look at it on a deep on a deeper level, too. You gotta look at it for our situation. You think people fame that we done done stuff too we done went up state for and all that. We might not got no homicide, but you might got a vicious aggravated assault, shooting and all that. Because at some point, we'll at some point when do a person get redemption. Yeah, gotta get out of here because we got it is enough. Because we got it, because that's like we could because we you can't you can't say that you'll feel that certain way because we we we also is walking in them shoes also for the victims that we got that we done shit to. Everybody ain't what I'm saying, robbery, shootings, whatever. I'm talking about any type of violent crime, and the person comes home and they done their time, they on something different now. You feel what I'm saying? Yeah, they like man, you got a lot of brothers that that that that that that that you know like overturning life sentences and whatever the case may be, or juvenile lifers and all that. They like you think I'm saying they got another chance at life. So you're saying, all right, I've done 25 years, I served my time. Now you're getting out, and then the family, like, no, fuck that. We got smoking. You know, I've done my time. Exactly.

SPEAKER_10

I'm wrong, I did my time. Another thing, too. Did she stab him multiple times? Like, bam, bam, bam. Yeah, I think I think they say multiple times. Oh, well, yeah, that was that was that wasn't an accident.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that might have been yeah, yeah. That might then that's a different boss of saying, I know the certain shit.

SPEAKER_10

She was in her feelings.

SPEAKER_00

That was a crime of passion. They call it the crime of passion.

SPEAKER_10

So if she they give her that little 17, she be out. She's gonna regret it because she's about to get in and go to jail, and and jail is a is a hard situation. She's been in jail already. And think about it, she's seven, she's a 17-year-old kid. My I got a daughter that's 17. They mental was not, they're not, they're not grown, they're yeah, even if a woman, not no knocking, a woman could be 40 years old and react like that and stab a husband. Uh-uh. Right, right. I'm mad at you. You know, now flip it around. Let's see, like, so if he if a if the if if it was a a boy or a young teenage boy stabbing his girl like that, is he getting 17 years or is he getting the life just life sentence? 40 to 90. They both 17. Yeah, what I'm saying. Is it is it gonna be looked at is it gonna be look at is it gonna be the same sentence?

SPEAKER_00

They're gonna look at the him being uh a male, they're gonna look at him.

SPEAKER_10

They're gonna give him 40 to 80, get him out of here, get him out of here. You think they're gonna give him more than 17? Absolutely. Oh, for sure. You feel hold y'all both feel as though they're gonna pay him as a monster in there, like absolutely no?

SPEAKER_09

How you gonna pay me in the monster if you can't paint me in the monster?

SPEAKER_00

African-American young guy, you know they don't care about nothing. How many people we know ain't had no record and wouldn't have stayed 20, 30, 40 years, ain't never been locked dead in his life.

SPEAKER_09

So you're saying the system is set for absolutely, so you're saying she just because she's a woman, that's why she got the 17. Bottom line. So if it was like you said the rules was reversed, he stabbed her and killed her.

SPEAKER_00

I ain't do shit. I got 20 to 20 years. I ain't doing a punch. Yeah, and I had no record, yeah. I'm young, boy. I ain't gonna they can figure it out. They out there tearing that shit up. I go to court get more time than everybody.

SPEAKER_10

Because you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00

You know, they talking about that that that scale shit that is the lady justice, she blind out. I get the she like you you ever see Judge uh uh uh what's the lady's name? Uh Judge Judy. You see how like when the first show first come on, and they put she pulled a joint up and wank me. I got you, and get you right the fuck up by they put it back down. That's what they do for real. People don't look at that to see it like that, but that's what really be going on. She pulled that journal talking about justice blind, justice ain't never been blind. Because if it was, we wouldn't have PA wouldn't have all these juvenile lifers and dudes ain't had no homicides, did getting life sentences. Justice ain't like it ain't justice has never been blind. They know exactly what they go on what's going on with justice. They talk that shit, justice blind. I don't know, I never believed that.

SPEAKER_10

And it's it's unfair though, man. It's not unfair because now but match out this question. Could could uh your lawyer, like say this happened somewhere else, or happened in that same state rather than Florida, right? And like I said, it was reversed. Now it's a boy doing it doing it to a to a girl. Can his lawyer use that case as guidelines for the sentencing that if he's found guilty for the guy, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, because it's it's law.

SPEAKER_10

But do they do they rock with that? Where they say, all right, cool.

SPEAKER_00

It's law. So they he can definitely Commonwealth versus whatever the young boy, I mean, well not Commonwealth, whatever state of whatever, versus so and so, so and so, because the circumstances are exactly the same. Well, a lot of people don't know, it's good that you brought that up. Because a lot of people don't know every time you win a case or lose a case, that becomes law. A lot of people don't know that. Like I'm saying, black beat his case, overturn this case. NAS case, case law. Now everybody got a case similar to black. They can use black case to help them get out. That's how I be saying taking deals sometime ain't always good because that becomes case law. Then they use them that same shit against against other brothers to knock that knock them in the head. Yeah. You feel what I'm saying? So, like you said, case law is definitely go both ways. So, like you were saying, that definitely would be a good case to reference.

SPEAKER_10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

If you got that same situation, you dig what I'm saying? That's the like I said, as long as it ain't miles of 10. When you're saying they were stabbed multiple times, normally when it's multiple times and you you stab somebody to the chest, that's like perk, they look at it as being personal. Yeah, you think I'm saying they could consider that to be a person, that's something personal. Stabbing somebody in the heart, in the in the because you looking at them and you doing that. You know what's going on. Even if you in a blank second of insanity, that's what insanity is when you blank out.

SPEAKER_10

Yeah, and I saw the knife that she had, it was like a little small knife. Wasn't it wasn't a real uh uh uh a big kitchen knife, it was a small knife, about about yeah, not even you know, it was small.

SPEAKER_00

Some shit she in there cutting potatoes with he coming, oh bitch. You leave, huh? Or it's over. Yeah, she then she chased him outside, ran the car, poked it, and then get and then he's like, Oh, stop playing, thinking it's over. She'd have cut the distance down and stuck it. He probably didn't know he was gonna die. Start seeing the blood bleeding and start overpaying sometimes that kind of panicking too yeah, because you know, like young, they young, they don't be knowing like like you said, when you see you know to calm down, chill, and all that. You feel what I'm saying? You gotta that's deep, yeah.

SPEAKER_10

So, what's happening to people? Like, what's like people coming through these these these uh prison systems with these type of cases? Like, I didn't mean it, it was an accident anymore. So I spent the block with the with the with the gun and shot the corner up and killed them. These cases, like I didn't mean it, I stabbed them by mistake or I shot them by mistake. How are they carried in prison? When they when they get to the case.

SPEAKER_00

A lot of cases like that, a lot of times they don't really be wanting to tell, they don't really tell nobody that type of case. You know what I'm saying? Because you gotta think when when you when you look at people's cases in jail, they just show you their charges. So it's gonna be homicide, you think I'm saying whatever the other undermined details of right? They don't really get in the details of what it was. You feel what I'm saying? Like a person comes through with a statutory, you uh you know what I'm saying? But it's gonna be statutory, so you know he was having sex with somebody that was underage. You feel what I'm saying? Instead of being molestation, you don't know, you know, no, no, they way underage, so you out of bounds, you gotta jump on your ass. You think I'm saying then a rape, you feel I'm saying? Because so you would know by how is the charges with what was going on, yeah. But like like you said before it's like a homicide, it's just he comes in with a body, he he he keeping it quiet, unless he's all over the news and all that, then everybody got the high profile case. Because I'm quite sure that case probably right there, being 17, that's high profile. High profile, yeah, too.

SPEAKER_10

Two teenagers involved, right? So now when you when you when you look at like I let's spoke about this yesterday a little bit, the Stephon Diggs. I know you heard about that. The Stefan Diggs case with the with the with the woman with the chef.

SPEAKER_00

With the yeah, like women discreet, yeah.

SPEAKER_10

Like, why are you going on the stand on this man and get up and lying like that, man? Like you like, why are you trying to destroy this man? Like, this man uses his talents to make money. And we know how the NFL act. NFL, you can't even piss on the sidewalk without losing your job. They cut you, you know. In their content, in the in the contract, they have they have a see what's the hand came back saying he his the career never came back.

SPEAKER_00

Ray Rice, they seen Ray Rice. Yeah, Baltimore running back. Yeah, taking the take taking a slap channel on the elevator, boom, bank, boom, boom. He ain't that was over. It was that's it. He ain't played since in the NFL. He ain't been back since. And he was nice, he was real right. He was real good running back, you know what I'm saying? So that's what I'm saying. But you know, a lot of time they'd be trying to be trying to get their little, they get their little, they want to get their little couple wins, and sometimes it'd be about publicity too. I'm gonna say this, they slap me all up, I'm gonna be all bunch of interviews, make some money, and I'm gonna get my name out there. A lot of that should be because they be wanting to be famous and or spark their career.

SPEAKER_10

Fame is a fame is a is a terrible drug, man. Vicious, it's it's more uh vicious, it's more powerful than crack.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but because you fame, see like I was talking, me and my girl was talking about that, and I was telling her, like, she'd be like, I want to be. I'm like, that it's not what it's not what you think it is. This that shit is not what you I'm saying, because when you be when you become famous on tour, no, your life never gonna be the same. You know, you you you you and that's why nowhere. Right, and that's why a lot of them be like they wish they'd never had fame, just be, you know, just be successful and just have money, you know. We'd be able to do things that you want. That's what that's what I think success is. Be able to have money, whatever, do things whatever you want to do when you want to do it. Bottom line. I don't need to be all you know, everywhere.

SPEAKER_10

None of that.

SPEAKER_09

None of that.

SPEAKER_10

Some people want it, some people want it bad.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but they don't know what comes with it. We see it.

SPEAKER_10

That's why they go in them rooms. Yeah, they go in them rooms. Um these know these rooms are talking about people go in these rooms and they want it bad.

SPEAKER_00

They sell their soul.

SPEAKER_10

How bad you want it. And it's like people, you can just see it in these people's faces a lot of times, the ones who we suspect may have sold their souls. Uh you can just see it in their face a lot of times. They just be spiraling out of control something, some of these people, man. It's just crazy. Like, I got talk to him, I talk to him all the time about uh a person who wants fame. You gotta be real careful with that person, man, because a lot sometimes you just never know what they may do. They may sell you out for you.

SPEAKER_09

That's a fact.

SPEAKER_10

But sis, the bullshit niggas sell you out for some money too. I'm saying, just for that, that aspect of fame, because fame, people want to be famous, people want to be known. People want people want the spotlight.

SPEAKER_00

You know it's crazy because you got some people that just got the aura of who they are, just you know, demand that people just like to be around them and and and and and they can interact, they got a good personality, real down the earth, they just being they self, they ain't trying to do nothing extra and none of that. You got a lot of people don't they they hate you because that's what they want. They want that. They so you got a lot of people that they want, they want, they want everybody when they go everywhere, they buy to know them. It's a lot of people like this, like stuffy. You think I'm saying? Yeah, but when when when your mind you like I'm just a genuine person, but people hate you for just for you being just being who you are.

SPEAKER_10

I think that you know is why it's that's why it's very important to keep but then that's hard too to keep people around that you started with it, because people sometimes change. It's like the more success you successful you get, your circle gets smaller. You know what I'm saying? It's just like people who don't want to hang around you, people don't, or you don't want to hang around people because you start feeling find out that they fake and find out so many different things because money and fame, it's just like everybody wants it. Agree, and they'll do anything to get it. I'm gonna ask you a question. So, people that that's famous, right? Coming up state or or coming into these jails, and uh, how are they treated in these states in the Fed? What happens to them when they come through? People that have like fame.

SPEAKER_00

Well, it it all depends on how famous you is. Like when I was yeah, when I I had caught a little case and I had gone back and I was down there, it's crazy. Me and Bill Cosby had the same judge, and a lot of my joints kept getting postponed because he I was going to court when he was going to court. But long story short, it all depends on like how famous you is. Like like like when me came through, he came through the four. I was down there, he came through the fort, got his number, boom, boom, go straight to straight to straight to Chester. I know that ain't that ain't how the process go.

SPEAKER_10

Oh, you know how it goes. How many mil, how's it? How many mil get up state if he was on?

SPEAKER_00

He didn't even he didn't even get because the judge get turned turned the probation to a state sentence. Like you know, they could do that, you know, like they get tired of you. Yeah, they like we just gonna be look, you you owe me five years, uh, you owe me five years probation, you keep rallying, I keep reinstating, and you've been on for 15 years. I'ma just turn that, I'm gonna just turn that to a two and a half to five. I done done 15 years already on probation. Yeah, now you're gonna see me do another five of state. Cause they'd be like, we just done, we just want you to let the DOC you just want the state to deal with you. So we do to me. No, so we'll so I think his judge turned his his probation to a state sentence. Okay, you feel what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_09

And they speedball them through the system too to where he had to go, right? Straight to so they usually don't do that to the regular process.

SPEAKER_00

You come down the county, wait to get on the bus, see the man go up with everybody else, boom, get to the fort. You know, your no quarantine, you're gonna quarantine, you dig what I'm saying? I mean, you're gonna be on quarantine, you I mean, wait until you get to your jail, go through the process, get your number and all that type shit, whatever the case may be. You dig what I'm saying? Then you go to Smithfield or whatever the jail is now until they find you a jail, and then you might end up down Chester, Phoenix, and all that. He's a process you went to. It's a major process. That shit's like a two, three-month process. Yeah, but he went from being being down CJC straight to Grades Ford, straight to Chester. Went to the fort, got his number, was down there, took his picture, got his ID, pum, right back on the bus, straight to Chester, pew, yeah, right to the honor block, whatever, whoever he went at. You feel what I'm saying? But that ain't how to go. So I say it all depends on you who you like. Bill Cosby. And when Bill Cosby went through the same process, boom, boom, boom, like uh the Stan Duskies and all that. These boys is big time names. Yeah, you feel what I'm saying? Bill comes through, but Bill, when Bill was down the fort, because they was having like on TMZ, you get Bill ID, we give you 500,000 million dollars. Yeah, I'm dead serious. What a picture, a picture, the ID, his DOC ID. Yeah, yeah, they would they TMZ was trying to you know what I'm saying? But when he came through, he got the he got the nation as a security down there.

SPEAKER_09

Oh, so the nation was uh back in Bill play.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, they was they was they was that was the security, yeah. Yeah, they would they they they bill single cell the every time Bill go to chow and all that, nation around him, escorting even out. Yeah, oh really, yeah, they was they was he so he was his folks paying them for security the whole time he was there until he got his journal return, he slid back out. But like you said, but like but just like regular, like a regular dude, like like how oh skill we talking about. He was up. We was on the D we was we when he came through. I was but we was down, I was on the PV block, he was coming through as a new commit. So he was in the jumpsuits when he was going upstate. You know what I'm saying? He was regular dude. You think what I'm saying? He was regular dudes, regular dudes. Went up there, went to his jail, got a jump, did his time and slid back on. You think I'm saying it all depends on who you are. You dig what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_09

All depends on the uh the the biggest of stars.

SPEAKER_00

Like like like like like like DuPont. You know what I'm saying? Oh, he came through that too? No, he was down Camp Hill. Oh, yeah, he done built wings and all that shit down Camp Hill and all that, but he's a walk around just like he owned it.

SPEAKER_09

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

You know what I'm saying? His family was donating a lot of money to Camp Hill, building shit, chapel, and all that.

SPEAKER_09

So they're gonna treat him accordingly, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

They treat him accordingly. He's buying the whole block sneaks and shit like that. Yeah, yeah, who they didn't let nobody do and shit like that. But like you said, all depends on who you is, and you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_10

So it's unfortunate, it's really unfortunate because a lot of times, you know, once you once you get it, once you get into jail and into these uh these prison systems, not not saying that Bill Cosby or these dudes is innocent of who have stature, not saying that they're innocent, but they get into jail, they they be out of their element, right? They're out of the out of the element. They don't they don't but they they get adjusted fast though quick, you got to. You better.

SPEAKER_00

I told you, I was talking about before you got one thing about that jail, you gotta use it. Yeah, all that you talking about you don't know, you better. Yeah, you gotta catch on. You be you ass be out, you be you be lost. You gotta catch on, but then you got a lot of time, a lot of sales gonna make gonna make your through people cool anyway, because they be starstruck. Me know me come through, they they they diggy. This is more millionaire, they diggy, you think I'm saying Bill comes a millionaire, you feel what I'm saying? Got certain people come through there, they they they're saying they walking different, pants a little tighter and all that. They try and catch, you feel what I'm saying? Cause they looking for a sponsor. Man, so like I said, it all depends on who you is, and you think I'm saying they got a lot, like you say, you got a lot of dudes that get money on the street when they come through the jail. You know what I'm saying? They they know a bunch of people, they're gonna be hard. Or you got some dudes that get money, come do the jail, niggas on their ass. You gotta cut a check. We stabbed in the devil.

SPEAKER_09

Yeah, and that's how it go.

SPEAKER_00

You know what I'm saying? Oh yeah, you going up in nigga, what's going on, gang? I need to come down for right at you.

SPEAKER_09

Then this is the next question, right? Is a question that's been going around social media, giving me to the uh, you know, all the rappers is asking it, because you know the way the street the state that the streets is in. We can say we can only talk about the streets of Philadelphia where we're from, which is chaotic. Um the statement is F the streets. F the streets.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but I don't understand what that means. What the fuck?

SPEAKER_10

It basically like, man, like, you know, it like basically it ain't worth it. Streets ain't worth it, ain't worth selling drugs, ain't worth, you know what I mean, robbing stunning, whatever you can be, but it ain't worth it. Based off of all the telling, you know, all the backdooring on duty, all the people trying to harbor each other, it's just so many different factors into why they why they saying that, or why people are saying F the F the streets is because the actual you know the casualties of uh banging the streets and making these.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, obviously. Well, me and Black was talking about, so okay, I understand it from that aspect. You think I'm saying, but rappers saying that that that's because if you went when you know when you reach a certain level of success, then that may be you can say some shit like that. You think I'm saying, but when you still active, you ain't saying no fuck the streets, yeah. You feel what I'm saying? Because that's what that's what that's that's what you come from. You don't know nothing but the streets, exactly. You ain't come from no corporate world, you ain't had no family members, you know what I'm saying? And then you was corporate, and then you went to the streets, so you like fuck up going back to being corporate. That's all we know is the streets. This is what raid is that. You know, you got some people that make it out, and that's a blessing. And we always gonna commend the ones that you know that could navigate, anybody that can navigate through the streets and take the right route. You dig what I'm saying, with you know, with being a citizen and doing the right ain't really nothing about really being citizens, just taking the right route and not succumbing to peer pressure and stuff like that. Then you always gonna get all the accolades in your flowers because that's the right path to take. I mean, you're not a follower. You feel what I'm saying? Not saying that dudes in the street, but in all extra route, you're a follower because you follow behind all the wrong things that were set forth before you. So you want to take that route. So in actuality, you are a follower, we follow behind all the wrong people. You think I'm saying when Mr. Joe was going to work every day, all the always on the corner, like Joe like he was a fucking sucker, like nut ass oh he working out working for them white folks, breaking his back and all that, and I'm out getting the air. But Mr. Joe always there for his children. You got that. He don't miss, he don't miss no events. That's he's right about that. You see what I'm saying? And he re very reliable. He mr. Joe is a motherfucker that you could go. You should be covered out with this same motherfucker that you were saying it was a nut. Speaking looked at things wrong, so you can't never say fuck the streets, because if you successful, then maybe maybe it all depends. That's I said I was telling blackers, all depends on your line of success. Now, if you come from the streets and you be you you switch your life and you be and you want to and you become you a citizen now, then I agree with you. All right, because I ain't gonna I don't want to go back to that. This is what I worked so hard for. So I'm saying fuck that because now I got up out of that. Now I can, you know, I took the proper step, even though that was a stepping stone. I took the right steps, you know, to be in the right position to make sure that I'm cool now. So I agree with it in that aspect, but just blatantly, uh fuck. Yeah, yeah, because it is this shit is vicious. But this has been going on since the beginning of the time, and telling me going since beginning of the time, it ain't nothing, it ain't no new, it ain't no new crimes being committed. You didn't say well, they got new crimes. All this shit is all the same, it's just different ways people do it. You feel what I'm saying? So, you know, saying fuck the street. I I'm not, I'm not gonna be an advocate for that. Because it also the streets can also keep you alive, too.

SPEAKER_10

Yeah, do you think that um a lot of dudes are saying F the streets because it's over for me and they can't get no more money? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like they they feel that way because they run is done. You think it's more so it could be that could be a reason why why these guys are saying it because they can't get no more money out here, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Because if you but I'm saying if you can't get them more money, that goes to the to the person that you are. That means you didn't let your ambition go down the hole. You don't let your shit go down the toilet. That's all I'm saying. If you you think I'm saying that mean you you you're basically saying you gave up then. Because this one thing about one thing for sure, too, sir. There's millions of dollars pass me by every day. It's always there's always money out here. Money that ain't never gonna stop. You think I'm saying it's always ways to get to the get to the paper. It ain't all everything ain't everything ain't gotta be illegal. You got some people that you know take that beans and give them a stepping stone to do, but it's it's legit money out here. This shit is different. Money always been out here anyway, but I'm just saying shit is different. There's money out here, man. You think I'm saying so? I I'm not never gonna say fuck the streets because the streets made me who I am today. Exactly. You think I'm saying and and I got this far from you know being streetly, and there's some people that say fuck the streets, that's why that's why you went where you at them, because the streets believed in you. You think I'm saying corporate America ain't believed in you until you got to that point, exactly where first you was in the to the streets. I agree wholeheartedly. You think what I'm saying? Yeah, like come on, man. So we go like we ain't gonna do that, like yeah. So I don't think that's a good trend. And what because when something happened to you, not to cut you up. When something happened to you, that's who you turn to. You turn to the same thing with that Bill Cobb shit. He was talking all that corporate America shit, then white folks turn their back on him because they were saying you was roofing and knocking these bitches' brains in them white women and all that. Well, you try to turn to the black people. So you mean you turn back to the streets when you was you when you was all high and mighty and you was saying you was talking all that shit, but you as I'm saying a lot of people that that that that that say that soon as they go to some type of trials, tribulation, they turn back to where all started at. Like, come on, man. Oh, we ain't gonna do that.

SPEAKER_10

Yeah, and a lot a lot of times, like with the with the after streets movement, um, it looks a little bit hippo. But no, but the young boys are saying it too now, though. We had a young boy up here at Fap Of Newski, he said yesterday. Yeah. He said he's done with it.

SPEAKER_09

Yeah, after the streets.

SPEAKER_10

And what do you say about the people that give them that give the young boys or people that may have been indulging in the street activity or living the street life, and then the people around them, you know, this could be in our city, any other city, in any other state, people around them speak bad about them. Like, you know, that's something bad to say about them because they just because they changed their life.

SPEAKER_00

No, I don't think that's I don't think that's right. I'm saying, like, like you say, the brothers up here was let it be known, like he done, because he he looking at it from the aspect of all the things that he went through in his life, that shit didn't work for him. So he got every right to say, nah, fuck that shit ain't working for me. Like you know what I'm saying? Because every time I keep turning your streets, I keep going to jail. So yeah, I gotta I gotta I gotta figure out something different. Yeah, you think I'm saying my whole thing is you got people that you you've been here all your life, you got people that all you've been here all your life, no matter how what age you is and all that, you got foreigners that come over here, don't speak the language, don't know nothing, come right over this drone and get right in the mix. But you've been here all your life, you can't even get in the mix at all. So that's what I'm saying. So the motivation is there. I'm that's how I look at it. Like, how the fuck a motherfucker that don't know nothing about America get dropped off on a boat and drop this, yeah. Go ahead, just go ahead and say I holler at you, and come over here and flourish. Yeah, and you've been all your life and you can't figure it out. That goes to the that's what I'm saying. That goes to the person. That goes to the person all the time. Come on, man, because you you this shit you can figure this out. Because if you got people that ain't like I say, you got people that ain't never never been here, come here and figure it out every single day. For sure. We've been here all our life, and you you can't figure it out. You keep talking about you fucked up, you blaming this person, blame that person. Come on, man. Boys come over there, don't come over, no family, no nothing. 10-15 years ago by they got two, three stores. Come on, so you know, I that's all like I said, the brother probably said that because he like, man, the street shit ain't it ain't working, it's it's is it's is it's putting them more of a burden on him. You dig what I'm saying? Then it's really helping him. That's how that's how that should be. It'd be more of a burden. You don't never want to be a burden. You dig what I'm saying? Because being a burden is a bad thing, man. Yeah. Especially that's that's that's nasty work. You don't want to be a burden on nobody, man. Yeah, you don't want to be a burden on the battery.

SPEAKER_10

Now, now we we we also got uh another thing to us want to speak about. And um I don't know if it's just if it's in Philly alone or if it's just I'm but I'm assuming it's everywhere, right? Why is it that the young girls try trying to be trying to be dudes now? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like as far as their the the way they talk, their speech, their mannerisms. Yo, bro, yeah, I don't like that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I don't like that either. I'm not a big I don't I I try to get my son in my doors, but I think that's it's a it's a it's a language thing, though. You think I'm saying it's a cultural thing, calling the girls calling trouble, bro. It's a cultural thing. It's like that's a that's like that's a young person, but it's basically saying bro, like as it like you know what I'm saying. Like that we say, that's like the new young bull, like you know what I'm saying. You know, we say young bull for the men and young john for the girls, you know what I'm saying? But they just just everybody just bro. You think I'm saying that's just that's just how they talk everybody groups of women like yo, bro, listen talking to each other, bro. But bro, you crazy bro, twin, bestie. You know, that's that's that's that's the your you know that's the words that they use. So I don't yeah, down, down really, but I just I just tell my son like his because he'd get caught up in that. He'd be talking to me, you know what I'm saying, bro. Oh first who your bro, yeah. So you gotta, you know, oh no, no, my dad. You think I'm saying you do all your daughter, you think I'm saying my girl be starting saying that sometime she'd text me. I'm telling you, bro, I bird, oh your bro, I ain't your bro.

SPEAKER_10

You think I'm saying, but yeah, I think that's just like a um it's like a little slang, and also the the girls is doing uh getting involved in the like the boy the boy Fulio over in was it um Florida flulio? The girl was a lookout, yeah, and she uh she ended up snitching, taking the deal. She wanted to be involved, and she ended up snitching.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, because you know they're gonna put that pressure. No disrespect to the women, but I one day we should women gonna tell. They they telling. They better not have no kids. Yeah, they telling. That's what I'm saying, they they're giving it up. They they they ain't trying to go to jail. They they're giving that shit up. And like I said before, a lot of time women make make make make niggas tell.

SPEAKER_10

They on trial now, matter of fact, for that Fulio murder. They on trial now.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, they ain't get convicted of that.

SPEAKER_10

No, I think that the girl, the girl uh she pleaded out to manslaughter. I think man was a manslaughter, I believe.

SPEAKER_00

And she probably took a proffer.

SPEAKER_10

And now them they going to trial. So they probably gonna try to hook them up real nice. Right. Because she because they know she character witness. Yeah, she she said she was a lookout for everything. Oh, yeah, she yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And she gonna add some shit in there. Just to make sure she she she cool. So, but yeah, that I I yeah Yeah, it's a bad situation. You got you got you got some women think that they they they they you know they want to get active, but I'm telling you that that like you said, man, we ain't never advocating for jail. That jail chain, what y'all think it is, man? That that shit is men, women, you dig at what I'm saying? Yeah, that shit all the same.

SPEAKER_10

People don't really realize how how difficult or how um hard it is in prison until they actually get there, right?

SPEAKER_00

That's a fact, like because everybody's gonna start treating you different. Everybody gonna start dying off because you gotta think when you're young and you go to jail, right? Nobody, nobody got really they everybody not gonna have no time for you because they still do the same thing they were doing before you went to jail. Yeah, so when you think you're gonna be calling all day, burn them out, they yeah, bitch. Yeah, yeah. They're going right back to what they're doing, yeah.

SPEAKER_10

Yeah, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_00

They might do a little video visit and all that.

SPEAKER_10

It's not, but but they they they got the crazy thing about it is everybody keep their phone in their hand. People can't even walk out their bedroom.

SPEAKER_09

But they see you calling, but right like like motherfuckers is caught up. They see you calling, yeah, not right now, but yeah, like he said, yeah, right back. Yeah, I probably called two times before that already, and we done talked already.

SPEAKER_00

And that shit, and that's another thing that's I'm glad you brought that because that's another thing that make a prison tell. Cause now when you get on that, they get on that on the FaceTime Joan, you know they got the vape, they got it down the county in the phone.

SPEAKER_10

You had a cookout somewhere. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00

They see everybody see, yeah.

SPEAKER_10

Everybody coming on the phone.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, anybody know how to get in contact with the district attorney? I'm going back out there with a party. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_10

That red photo on the block of the face.

SPEAKER_00

I gotta get out for that. Get me an outfit, get me a Hardy John, whatever that shit. The G is set up. They try to get up out of there.

SPEAKER_10

Yo, that's crazy because a lot of times, like you said, that make people tell. Yeah. And then also coming home, people don't really care if you ride it no more.

SPEAKER_00

No, they don't. They don't give a fuck about that.

SPEAKER_10

It ain't like it. I think McDucky was just up here saying yesterday. I could tell and go on, man.

SPEAKER_00

About none of that.

SPEAKER_10

They might whistle behind my back. But I'm gonna get out. I might get me another gun with a switch on it. They know I put in work.

SPEAKER_00

What they say in the feds, I don't know. I don't I don't even know it's a federal term. I don't heard it so many years over the years. If you the told when I told you to roll when I rule, why do you think that's a good one? Why do ten when you could tell them a friend? He got all types of all types of shit that you know, slogans and letting it be known they think it's cute and funny and all that, but yeah, but you know what I'm saying? Don't put yourself in when when when when when when this is my advice to people that's you know playing the outlaw game, don't put people in positions that you know going in that they not built for that. Because you know, you can go on. I'm not gonna say you, we know, yeah. I know that main man he gets to the money like the bitches, so I know for a fact if shit could push come to shove, he's gonna tell. Yeah, I know so and so he vicious hustler boy. He ain't I'm not taking him on the drill. Yeah, I'm not doing that. You know your personnel, you gotta know your personnel now. Now you thinking you know what I'm saying, like no fuck that you gotta do to be around us. No, everybody ain't everybody ain't equipped to be a shooter and all that. You dig I'm saying when you out here doing all the wrong shit. Everybody, like I said, we're not advocating all that, but I'm just saying you gotta know your personnel because this is what this will have you stuck, yeah. And you tell me, oh I know, I thought he had do that. Yeah, he will. Yeah, you knew that. Don't sit here in front, like the breath, like the brother was saying. Uh, what's his name that y'all had? I don't know if he was here with y'all, but um the big heavy set guy. I think they all got just got indicted. Oh, right. No, no, no, no, no. They the young boy. He be with uh scroll.

SPEAKER_09

Oh, FS the Bender, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

FS the binder. He was saying, you think what I'm saying? What you been saying? Like, you like you know, you didn't say he still got love for his man because he knows his man. You dig I'm saying now, you know something you gotta know your personnel, man. You feel what I'm saying? You know, these certain people is not built for that type of pressure, especially if you're taking somebody's life. That's big time shit, man. And that'll eat them up. You gotta some people don't tell you that. So do you do do be doing certain shit? That should eat you up. You feel what I'm saying? You get to think about that. You that the conscience will kill you, yeah. Especially when you know you gotta you you come from good stock.

SPEAKER_09

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00

You feel what I'm saying? So young is you gotta young is all you gotta know your personnel. Man, you want to be an outlaw, you gotta know everybody is not gonna be aggressive. That's not that's not that's not the reality of it.

SPEAKER_10

But it's even worse when it's even worse when you when you got you got a homie that you care about that that's like I did so much together, and then you go to y'all something happened and then he tell.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but that's go back to up to you got you got you got in it.

SPEAKER_10

But you you never thought that he was like he didn't know. I'm saying you see, we know we don't think he done hopped out and shot at stuff and shot.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah, well that's different.

SPEAKER_10

And did he tell?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. So that's all the way different, right?

SPEAKER_10

That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's the other side, like, damn. Like, so so you really don't know because y'all may catch a case, and he like, man, he's not thinking like damn 40 years old, man. They give me like damn.

SPEAKER_00

But some some some telltale signs that be there. I ain't gonna say no names, right? But if you put the pieces together with it, you put it together. Yeah, I grew up with this this this person, you feel what I'm saying? Grew up, knew him for a lot of years and all that. And they'd be saying certain shit, and but but but I we just like laughed it off. You think what I'm saying? Yeah, laughed it all. You didn't really pay no mind, you just being funny. You know, most everybody, most everybody around us, we know we're all locked up, you know. So we know the you know what I'm saying? They never been locked up to all that. Vicious fighting bull, boxing boy, chant, all that. You dig it, I'm saying?

SPEAKER_10

Then the shit came up, so then you look back like I see, I see yo, I was just ready to say that like he was talking about something like the other day about one of the one of the one of the one of the homies. Like, it was a bunch of like a bunch of gay jokes all the time, right? Like, yeah, you like you would like this. We're like, Damn, no, that's not funny, bro. That's not fun. We don't play them type game, and then something come out, you know, one hour and 17 minutes. It don't be C C C when you've been locked up, that shit don't be surprising.

SPEAKER_00

That shit don't be surprising to us. You feel what I'm saying? You you you like, yeah, I seen that. You feel what I'm saying? But you know, see you see now. See, like when people say search, we be on it, you know, coming from when you be locked up because you don't see nothing. That's that's like that. No nobody plays, nobody plays like that. Then uh some of the poppies they play like that, yeah. The poppies they play, they play butt games and do shit hitting each other in the buttons. They do shit like that.

SPEAKER_10

I saw something like that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so so you know, for them that that's normal shit. That's but that's their culture, maybe. I don't know. Don't with the poppies boys come at me, but but poppies know that because they saw some with the poppies, right?

SPEAKER_10

No, I saw poppies, they was fighting, it was boys fighting. They boy pants came down, and the poppy boy went up behind him, but this is a real live fight, and they put his finger, I mean, not on duty in his backside, not on duty. Like, how is that a part of fighting?

SPEAKER_00

That's it. But they say no rules, but that's different rules now. I don't I'm not like how is that not a part?

SPEAKER_10

How is that a part of fighting to do that to somebody? That's not that's not gonna, that's not what are you doing?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but you just but but like when you're growing up, they say motherfucker get up on you. Can't get him a ball, they tell you grab his balls. Yeah, you know that you know that's the key way to get him off, but that then that's that's different. Now you know, motherfuckers grab your drone and all that. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_10

That's just playing with you walk up to the grab the play. Yeah, they yeah, they do that in the in the jails, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

That's it, yeah. I'm telling you, that's why I said that jail should be different, man.

SPEAKER_10

Yeah, that's not funny.

SPEAKER_00

Everything about jail is not homosexual based, but I'm just saying in jail, you just see some of the world most bizarre shit you ever gonna see in your life. You've never probably seen on the stream. You feel what I'm saying? Like you're not seeing people, like I said, bite their lip, sucking their blood, and putting feces in their mouth, spitting it on people, having shit wars, and it's just you like in jail, you people really lose their sanity in that jail. People really think they they they lose it. Yeah, you think what I'm saying? It's it really that that you really become barbaric in that job. It should take you that should take you uh out of who you are as a person, and you can get lost in that type shit. You feel what I'm saying? So that's what we like when we have this platform and let people know, like that shit is different in there. It's not what you always give you them. Somebody always tell you the good story, they don't tell you the shit that's the shit that really scare you. You feel what I'm saying? Like, like we talk about, you know, the gel knives and the etiquette, and uh that's yeah, it's it's it's the rules is different, and that's something that you don't really want to subject yourself to for you know what I'm saying at all, but you know what I'm saying? But when you get in there, you gotta adapt to that because not adapting to that will get you hurt, not you know what I'm saying? Being going out being so long, saying talking to each other certain ways, you gotta cut that shit off when you get behind the wall. You feel what I'm saying? Because everything in there is all off respect.

SPEAKER_09

Like, like I'll hear motherfuckers be playing around, like man, he might dicky, stop dicky. You feel what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00

Like I tell you all, that shit being murdered, not it'll get you unalive. All like I said, basketball games, being stopped, card games, chess, checkers, whatever you doing, pity, whatever, gambling, all that shit's come to a halt. Because everybody looking like like what they everybody wants, yo, who the fuck can you go? You can't, you can't, you know what I'm saying? And and and the younger days, so used to talk to each other like that. You think I'm saying so? That's part of who they are, which is you know what I'm saying, part of their culture. But a lot of culture shit get wiped out when you this is new rules. You think I'm saying it's all new rules when you get behind this wall. The rules have changed. You dig what I'm saying? Ain't no guns, none of that. It's it's hands and feet and and and and and and and and and and and all type of whatever you can make something out of to protect yourself. This is the the rules the rules in there is way different. You think I'm saying separate the men from the boys and all that. You think what I'm saying? If you're on if you're on little kid time, when you get in there, you're gonna be you're gonna automatically learn to be on grown man time because if not, you're gonna get you're gonna be gonna hurt you. Yeah, so you're gonna learn it. You dig it, I'm saying you're gonna learn it. And and and then there it's just it's muscle on muscle, it's ram on ram. Any whatever you're looking for, you can get it. We can any type of energy you want to match, whatever you're looking for when you in jail, you can get it. You wanna go on there and be on all goofy shit. It's it's there. You won't go on there and learn who you with as a person, learn and try to, it's there. You want to go on there and become a a lightweight, a lightweight motherfucker lawyer, it's there, it's all what you want to do. But whatever you want to get into, you won't go on, you want it. The goofy shit is right there for you. You see what I'm saying? It's there for you, man.

SPEAKER_10

I want to make an announcement real fast too, as well. Everybody out there listening, um, tell us from the jails what we're doing. We're doing um for anybody who has a business and they want to promote it on our platform, we're doing something for free for y'all. We're only gonna do it for a certain amount of people, but you get to come on the platform, talk about your business, promote your business. We're doing something free right now. So hit us up uh on uh email us uh at tellsfromgils at gmail.com. That's tellsfromgils at gmail.com. Hit us up. We're gonna take a, you know, we're gonna do something for the community and anybody who won't want to promote their business. Uh we're gonna take a selective businesses, but we're gonna be able to promote it here on our platform for free. You come up here on the platform, you can sit down with us and talk about your business. We're gonna set that up for y'all. Hit us up on the on um Instagram as well, um, at tells from the jails. And uh also email us tellsfromjails at gmail.com.

SPEAKER_00

And make sure y'all support these these black-owned businesses. For sure. Because that, you know, we need this to uplift our community. Anybody got any type of platform that's you know, there's trying to motivate the youth, trying to change the trying to change the conditions of the people. A lot of brothers out here. I know my man, geez, he was up here cooked. You know, he got you know what I'm saying directly talking straight to you. You dig what I'm saying? You got a lot of things he's getting with the senators, and you know what I'm saying? You got a lot of people trying to help the brothers, man. Don't don't don't be ashamed to ask for help because that's what we get. We get prideful, and pride of having a lot of pride will block your blessings. You'll miss out on a lot of good opportunities in life being prideful, man. You know, as a Muslim, we don't get prideful. Something you don't know, you need you you go to the brother that knows it. You feel what I'm saying? So this is it'd be the same thing with the street things, man. Something you don't know, you need some type of trouble with the sisters, the brothers. Go to somebody that you know that can give that can give you the right advice, and not a motherfucker that's going like y'all say, tell you what you want to hear, dickie. No, you don't want to be around people like that. You want to be around people that's gonna tell you, be always be real with you and tell you what's going on, or you like it or not, when you're wrong and all that. You think what I'm saying? Because you know, being in jail, that's one thing they they teach you is the the man up, woman up, man up, because you need that. That's what help you chance part of change. Yeah, when somebody direct you and tell you like they telling you, we're like, No, you was wrong though. Like what you said, you was out of pocket. Now what you did, you was out of pocket. You think I'm saying? Because you don't got a lot of that going on, so people go on doing all the wrong things. So now they think that it's right. You don't got nobody telling you, giving you little twos and little little fruit for thought and little Jews. You think I'm saying for you to be a better person. You need that's what we need more of with the youth and even with the older people. Sometimes some people, older people be stuck in their ways, and they don't be wanting to see, they don't want to change. Exactly and that a hinder because you you by you not wanting to change, you giving all that that bullshit to the youngins. You dig what I'm saying? And that's that's misguiding.

SPEAKER_10

Yeah, man. What about open these phone lines too, y'all? Phone lines about to be opened up. Uh, phone lines is gonna be open. It's uh 215-316-4492. That's 215-316-4492. Y'all want to ask some millions of questions, you want to ask blacks some questions, ask me some questions. Hey, let me ask you a question, man. You know, you you've been in a couple fights in jail, right? I remember you told a story about you was the CEO, you pulled them through the through the pool box. In a jail fight, I know in a street fight out here what people are probably looking for, but in a jail fight, if you in that cell, that small cell, and it's a fight, and y'all get into altercation, what are you looking to what are you looking to do in that fight? What like we looking to what are you trying to we looking to hit them at? Like, what's going on?

SPEAKER_00

I had when I was um when I was up the rock, or rock review, and I was like working on getting my single cell. You feel what I'm saying? So it was like I was never like one of the advocates that like try to assault people while they was being put in the cell without no cups on. I'm gonna give him one fucking fair, you think I'm saying yeah, I'm gonna give up when lose a draw. Because I've in my mind, I'm thinking about I'm thinking I'm thinking real good advance. I'm not gonna lie, I ain't lost too many fights in jail. I don't think I lost actually, but you think I'm saying I always been on the the good side, less I was going to, but anyway, back what I was saying. I had a celly that now with the what the C what the COs did was they put this old in there, he was a little shot. Now, like I was saying, by being in jail, I was taking the Elleville.

SPEAKER_10

What is Elleville? What is it?

SPEAKER_00

It's like a it's like psychotropic medication, actually. Like penaquine, kind of yes, but it's called Elleville. But it fucked my tell you fuck your nerves up and it mess your nerves up real bad. But I was taking it to go to sleep. I was I would sometimes I would let it, I would let it pile up and then I dump it and be gone the whole, you know, the weekend is the slowest. Yeah, exactly. So the weekend I try to sleep mostly the whole weekend. Yeah, long story short, they had I had took it and they must have knew that I took it because you be out. You be done. When I woke up, they was in there. I lied to you now. When I woke up, no, the the the digger they put in there. Oh, the nigga little stock, he little old head. Never forget this. The belonging little stock, he little old head. They like, we got something for him. You dig what I'm saying? Now, what was weird? He was weird from the door. He when they put him in the cell with me, I knew they had put somebody in the cell because I used to have I used to have my bed like a coffin, sheets all around, pulled my jaw. All right, you know what I'm saying? I had my shit was decked. Now you don't know, you get a creative. So anyway, in a hole in the hole. Okay, so so when I had when I had was sleep, I knew they had put somebody in there because I had a I had a match. I had double mattress on the bottom, but I had a mattress on the top holding the sheets up so they wouldn't fall on all that, right? You think I'm saying, but when I looked up, I seen the ceiling. I know they ain't come in the cell or take no mattress out of the cell. I'm like when I know I'm like, I ain't put it on the floor or not. I don't know I'm out. My mom, I don't know about folded it back. Something I'm just saying, I'm not thinking that somebody is actually, and then I never heard nothing. You know, in jail, you you you like sleeping. You don't be, you think I'm saying? But I knew that I had took the medication. This no, I'm I'm not making this shit up. I'm not making it up for the for the for the I'm I'm being dead serious. When I woke up, the nigga was under the bed, under the under my bed. Listen, he was had to be crazy. The nigga was under my bed because I knew what would fuck me up because I heard like a light snore. What the fuck? I didn't know I ain't tripping, but it's but you know, you cover the lights up in the hole, so it's the cell was dark all the time. You know, you know, young you ain't got no windows or nothing. Yeah, the windows on the outside of the cells, so I pulled the drone back, but I don't see nobody and I look up the joint, the mattress gone. So I get out the fuck. I pull the joint all the way back. I get out the bed. When I get out of the bed, I see his feet at the bottom. I'm like, these niggas put somebody. They're like, Yeah, we was banging on the joint. You was in there. Oh, think we try think they put somebody in your cell. At the time, told you I was I was shot out. So I used to keep my boots, my state boots in my cell. I snuck I keep my job. When I used to go to the yard, I ain't never, you know, they sit back then, they used to use they give you the boots to go out to the yard when it was cold. And then when you come in, you gotta put your boots back out the jaw, out the wiki, boom, boom. They put them back in your property. I mean, they put them, you know what I'm saying? So I end up keeping minds, you know, when the game goes on, you want your boots on. So I said we kicking the bang on the door, you don't be kicking the bang on the door to you with them snut-ass skippies on 'cause the boots, you that you're gonna keep everybody ball nice. Long story short. So boom, I see you in there. I slide my boots on, tie my shit up. I put two pairs of boxes on. I was I you know I'm in it by myself. I got I got no shirt on. I got one pair of boxes, I'm by myself, which I thought. Boom, boom, I put two pair of boxes on, I put my shirt on, boom. I said, four, he got me fucked up. They got me hard. Boom. I pulled old head mattress out. This I hate to admit to this, but I pulled old head mattress out, kicked right in his face. Boom, it was on. Oh, he jumped up now. Now, like I said, I didn't know it was oh, he was a little bussy. I'm like, uh just that just that just that moment to always tell you about doing some shit you don't know you're doing, it was on. Yeah, oh get up, oh he get up. He was ready. Once I kicked him, he you know the motherfucker. It was on. We in there, we in there ripping now. Oh, he was getting out on me a little bit. You know, I'm young boy, so he's getting up. You know what I'm saying? I'm but I but I but you know, then I was in shape, yeah. So you know, I'm outlands out with survivor. You dig what I'm saying? We're in there rumming. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. We getting it. Door lock, nobody that's breaking up with nothing. Lord, bless my man soul, my man Nil, Daniel Giddings. That's my was my man, two guns. Yeah, he he he snapped.

unknown

You in there with my face.

SPEAKER_09

Oh, he in the cover spell.

SPEAKER_00

Everybody down there, we all good. We all gang down there. Yeah, we down there said we in there, everybody snapping. They ain't be in there rumbling or we in there ripping. Now what happened was oh head scooped me. Because down the rock that the the the the the tallest in the back. Oh he picked me up, boom, and took me to, I mean, Pittsburgh, we took me to the top.

SPEAKER_10

Pittsburgh school, huh?

SPEAKER_00

Pittsburgh scooped me up, took me up. What he did was he was trying to he was trying to paralyze me. He tried to go because when he scooped me, you think what I'm saying? I came down, but he when he he lift up and he jumped and he jumped towards the tall at the oh yeah, bang my back on the tall, yeah, to break my back to break my smile. You feel what I'm saying? And it's that the the grids of a law, but I time it was like I timed it kind of right, it still got me on the side, but when I I I got a chance to like turn it, boom, and you know what I'm saying? And we both hit the jump, but I was I was hurt though. He really wasn't that hurt, but I was hurt. But I think he might hit his head a little bit, so he was a little dizzy. So he was trying to hold me because he was a little dizzy, yeah. But that that that you know, I'm saying I was hurt, but I just knew that I gotta, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta be the aggressor, yeah. So and when I think he that I said, I think he was dizzy because he kind of let me let me go, but he still had me kind of, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, and I was able to wiggle out, but my back was hurting like a motherfucker. I don't know. I thought nigga broke my rib or something. I shit was killing me instantly. But I got a chance to get on top, and it was on. It was on. I start letting that shit go on, and I start kicking him in and he went out. So now at now from all the ruckus, they they know they dart. That's how I do that. They was doing because they came straight to the cell, right? Come straight to the cell, you do a boom, cow, get off. I mean, they were they I'm like, I've got to get all my shit or go as always. What was it? We was here working be. Yeah, he was getting it in. He was well, it was working be though. You think I'm saying and that joint that shit kind of fucked me up, you know what I'm saying? With just that by him trying to do that, he hitting the hitting his, but yeah, but in them cells, because side of some some some cells kind of big. So you got your man, they like the fort, the fort cells teeny. That's why a lot of niggas be fighting in the showers and on the block and all that. Yeah, I'm saying they can go in there, they go in there single, you dig what I'm saying? But you know, the you know when you up in the mountains, them cells kind of big. So you can go in there, you really tag. You dig what I'm saying? But in the hole, the cells always big in the hole. You feel what I'm saying? But yeah, they one thing about that, motherfucker be want to know if you can rumble. They hold on, hold on, let them let them rip a little bit. Let it let me take shit off. Some motherfuckers you want to know. You maybe man, man, be talking that shit.

SPEAKER_09

I'm gonna take people boxes back. Somebody coming in here all fast. No, we bet you sit up.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, man. Let it let a motherfucker go on there and let me see what's what. See what's what? Navy dog you putting that shit on the because they get up in there with the oh that says that yeah, you know what I'm saying? But yeah, but then it's warrior shit go on in jail, man. When I was at the down, they used to call that shit gladiator schools. Always something going on up there. Walk by, motherfucker going to child. You walk by, you stepping over, motherfucker, like AI. Yeah, motherfucker knocked out on the walk. Motherfucker, catch him in the line, ain't paying attention. Pity him down. I seen dudes get knocked out on the basketball court, boom, get up. Check raw. Motherfucker like that. He forgot he was knocked up. Motherfucker forgot they was knocked out.

SPEAKER_10

That's what that's what they said. That's where it goes down at on the on the basketball court. That's one of the main things.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, because that yeah, that's where that's where a lot of people start shit at too. They don't call go through with something somebody, that's where they started at sports.

SPEAKER_10

We can't hear it. Tell us from the Jeff.

SPEAKER_07

No, I was listening to you. Tell us from the Jeffs. Yeah, I was called up here. I wanted to holler at a man.

SPEAKER_00

Yo, what's up? I'm glad to see you home, homie. Ain't no doubt, ain't no doubt. Man, you see me up here, I'm up here tripping, yeah.

SPEAKER_07

It's the boy told him past some fries that we got rock room together.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, sir. You you know them stories about the rock, tell them that shit was treacherous up there.

SPEAKER_07

You know, was a puck, big yo, you was a puck, man.

SPEAKER_00

I was wild up there. I was wild up the rock, but the rock was different. I tried to tell people that far back, that back, that that back, they'll tell you the back. The back, that's what all the shit was.

SPEAKER_07

The whole beast wing, you you know that was the beast wing, yeah. Ain't no doubt. Motherfuckers was scared to come over there.

SPEAKER_00

East wing, west wing. They want to stay on the little block. So wings where it was at, and he had the hole over there. You feel what I'm saying? See, West Wing ain't no hole, so you can walk around the whole block. We just done something at the rock, we just do a bunch of dumb shit. People out there watching TV, motherfuckers be in the cell throwing water on kids. Yeah, because it ain't no bars.

SPEAKER_07

We were still kids then, man. We were young boys, ain't no doubt, man.

SPEAKER_00

Get the hair from you, though, man. You know what I'm saying? Get the hair from you, man.

SPEAKER_07

You know, who Lord Gil?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, from South Philly.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, I ain't know that we were Gil.

SPEAKER_00

I know, I know, I know who Gil is. He was in the South with uh with uh um the boy from Uptown. They had the store. I forget Percy, P or whatever we used to call him. I forget his name, the tall boy. Yeah, yeah, that was my bad. That was Manzie, young boy. Remember Manzie? Yeah, yeah, that's my homie. Yeah, that was that was that was his young boy. I was up, yeah. I was up there. My man, the rock. Rap was there. We was I used to be with all of them. You know that. I used to be with all of them growing up. They was kids. I didn't used to walk with us. Yeah, no doubt.

SPEAKER_07

Matter of fact, man, me and your man was slowly for a minute. Who two tie?

SPEAKER_00

You talking about Ty?

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, yeah, remember, we was on me and him was on two front together.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's TY, yeah. That this T Y Rabbit, right? Black T Y Rabbby. Well, what's he uh tall T Y? Yeah, black that's just rapping.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, that was my son when I first came on the block.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that the the remember he was in there with us, young boy, and then he moved in with me. We was on three, we was on three front together.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, he was in there with me. Me and I'm bull tone. That's me. I know, I know, I know you're talking about.

SPEAKER_00

I remember I remember that when they found all the bangers in your light. You I got real good memory. They found the gun, they found all the nails in their light. Yeah, no doubt. They found the nails.

SPEAKER_07

I just want to shout out to Black and his brother too, man. Y'all doing a good job, man. No doubt, man.

SPEAKER_00

These brothers doing good good work, man. They're doing good work.

SPEAKER_09

Thank you, man.

SPEAKER_10

I appreciate you. Uh we take a few calls now. Everybody won't get up, everybody will get to the Sixers game, man. Yeah. Uh anybody on the line? Yeah. Tell us from the jails we're speaking with. What's good? This Sikh, North Jersey. Shout out to North Jersey. What's up, bro? What's going on?

SPEAKER_04

I got a question for black man. What's his name, men? Yes, sir. Okay. When I was locked up, right, I don't hear y'all talking about guys with the rape and all that. I was locked up with a dude that was accused of raping a young lady or whatever, uh a grape and I'm talking to them. But he wouldn't check in. He was going through a hella time in jail. Have y'all seen people like that that fought the same thing? The guards was begging him to check in. He would never check in. And come to find out later on, he lied on him. Have y'all experienced that in y'all time?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I see I seen that happen before where uh uh some brothers um was accused of rape and then come to find out women was lying and stuff like that. Yeah, but I thought you know, you got some dudes that be built up on their integrity. Like, I'm not I'm not who y'all think I am. You think I'm saying so I'm not checking in, yeah. I'm not checking, I'm not standing for that. So whatever comes with it, then we I'm gonna look your man willing to die by that. I respect that. And then when you start to really, like you said, when you start to really dig into that, you you like they start believing, like I believe this boy. Because some people like that show you their paperwork and all, like, look at this, she tough, she's lying and all that.

SPEAKER_10

Yo, I experienced something like that, man. So I know I know that stuff is real. That stuff is is is a real deal.

SPEAKER_00

People definitely get accused all the time. You got a lot of brothers, the the the brothers from New York, remember? Then the white the white lady finally came came clean, saying that they'd never raped her and all that. Yeah, I saw that, man. Remember, one of them was raped.

SPEAKER_10

Boy, did 14 years in jail.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but one of them was raped though. While he was in there, yeah, he got raped when he first came out.

SPEAKER_10

It was all three like three or four of them central party. They had a movie about him or something like that.

SPEAKER_00

All right, but the the one of the boys got raped and all yeah, no, the lights killing he coming from out, he didn't even do it. That's why they that's why he that's why he got the most money. You feel what I'm saying? But you can't like you said certain things, man. That shit fucked you up mentally. Somebody called him right now, too.

SPEAKER_10

It's my love all right, man. Appreciate you, man. Enjoy your night, bro.

SPEAKER_00

Take care of yourself, bro.

SPEAKER_10

Yes, uh, yeah, man. Enjoy your night, man. Tell us from the jails, what's going on?

SPEAKER_06

Uh Cliff, man, from SP. What's up, man?

SPEAKER_10

Shout out to SP. What's up? What's going on? SP find us.

SPEAKER_06

Am I on a owner on?

SPEAKER_10

Yeah, yeah, we live. We live, man. What's going on?

SPEAKER_06

Oh, yo, Miz, I wanted to, I want to take on the Miz up. Go ahead. RIP the Gil. I'm I hope it ain't Gil from Wilson Park Project.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's Gil from Wilson, ain't no doubt. Yeah, that's Gil. I grew up grew up with him. Yeah, brown skin girl, Lewis, Louis Strong Gil. Going to school together. Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_06

Long story short, quick question. I want black chapman on this jaw, right? Y'all talked. I met I met y'all yesterday. Yesterday, y'all talked about the ladies using the cops, you know what I mean? The police and all that, right? I had an old hair job from SC. So I moved down to Jersey and messed with some old hair, right? And she used to use the police a lot of times. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I'm gonna call the cops. I'm gonna call the cops, you know what I mean? Like, you just keep me in order. And I got booked a couple times down there. And she's from that town, small towns, y'all, right? Right. So, you know, she gets restraining orders, then she came back and get me out of jail, and I ain't had nowhere to go. Long story short, that put a trauma in me. And I wanted to know was I pitched for this. So the trauma is she put at me by women, and she was the only one my ex-wife to call the cops on me a lot. So when I finally did meet a decent woman, that you know, I got my own apartment, and you already know I was doing me a little bit. And when I had a woman that came by to really confront me and knock on my door, I was like on some shit, like first one to call the cops, you know what I'm saying? So I called the police on, you know what I mean? And she ended up getting booked, right? She got booked, she got teased, and put her in a hopeful book and all that. But I ended up making it right, getting her out, whatever. We together now, you know what I mean? I'm just saying, but I just got so traumatized from the woman with the police, I didn't know what to do, and I don't do police, but I but I'm a working man now, and I just know like that was just something I was wondering what black thought about that.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, you just you just knew the strike first. You said fuck it, I'm gonna strike. Whoever called the cops first.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, you just said fuck it, I'm gonna strike first. I lost a good job, bitch. Are you broke motherfucker? Bitch, I lost my job behind you.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but sometimes, sometimes, you know, sometimes you got to put security around yourself. You dig what I'm saying? Because you know that that that right there is going you. That's a that's a that's a long road you gotta go down, especially being a black man. They, you know, they a lot of women use domestic violence to get people out of the way, then they don't come to court and all that. But the trauma that, like you said, losing your job, trying to explain to people that you ain't gonna be money, you know. Yeah, a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of jobs don't be one that look at your record like oh they they expunge it and they threw the charges out and all that. They just go about what they see. Yeah, you think I'm saying so. So sometimes you gotta put security around yourself. Listen, you can even get the fuck out of there, I'm calling the cab. What you gonna do? Because I ain't gonna say an argue with you.

SPEAKER_06

I was behind my door. I'm not opening no door, you know, and I just called the cops and then deal with her, but I don't know, she got a little stupid out there, whatever. But I but but I I end up handling it. But that that's how we get, man, with the women how the women use the police, like nigga, I need you to leave. Well, I call the cop.

SPEAKER_00

I ain't gonna say I ain't gonna I ain't gonna say you made it right, but what I'm saying is you just sometimes you gotta put security around yourself at the same time. This because you you don't want to go to jail, don't make you don't make you a snitch. I'm not you think what I'm saying? Like I she she she's crazy, she's tripping.

SPEAKER_10

You call empire to calm her down.

SPEAKER_00

Like we're gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_09

Sheep tip by doing extra shit.

SPEAKER_00

That's why the book that's why she got locked up this holy candida. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? It's being being a little extra.

SPEAKER_06

And she lived in Jersey, and the fix was in, because I actually seen a police officer. He walked me to the front, and when they come in and put them mystic, the first thing they do, they say, excuse me, sir, uh, can I put these on for my protection and your protection? And when they put the handcuffs on, they never come off. And he walked over in the back and he said, and I'll take him out right now.

SPEAKER_10

I ain't never seen them put the cuffs on and take them off. When they put the handcuffs on your seat, that's rare. What's some cuffs goes on? They ain't coming off.

SPEAKER_06

We're figuring, yeah, y'all can figure them off. They would say let the porch figure it out. Hey, brother, believe it. All right, thanks for calling him off.

SPEAKER_10

Thanks for calling in, man. Enjoy your night, man.

SPEAKER_06

All right, man.

SPEAKER_10

Tell us from the jails who we speaking with.

SPEAKER_01

Hey, family is Dark Skin Beauty.

SPEAKER_10

What's up, Dark Skin Beauty? New York, New York. Y'all about to lose tonight. Yeah, we owe them.

SPEAKER_01

Listen, no New York Land or turn it out.

SPEAKER_00

We owe y'all.

SPEAKER_01

I wanna get it from black. What are some red flags?

SPEAKER_10

Say it again.

SPEAKER_01

Like, so we can know if he's really like on his dream, if he's really meaning what he's saying. Because I know a lot of time guys in jail, y'all in the right mode. So it's like, we all wanna do this, we're gonna be a family, blah blah blah. And you come home, and it's a whole different situation. So she was saying, how do you think y'all can get their ladies out there?

SPEAKER_10

All right, I'm I'm I'm on them. They didn't hear you, but I'm gonna say it. She was saying, how do you know if a guy is a stand-up guy?

SPEAKER_09

What are what are the red flags?

SPEAKER_10

Yeah, I'm saying that red flags, yeah.

SPEAKER_09

Like, see, I'm gonna do you one better, dark skin beauty. The person that we got up here today, good friend of ours, man. Been in jail the whole time, and you know, he's gonna be always straight up and answer that honestly for you. Like, we just had a kind of it's crazy that you asked that because me talking him before we came on air, we was talking about what are red flags in a woman. Now that you just caught up here and asked what are red flags in a man is like, I don't know. I think you might have been in the room just now the guy. I don't know. But uh yeah, go ahead. Go ahead, miss. Like, what do you think? Red, and be real, like what she said because I didn't hear what she was saying. Go ahead, explain it again, uh, dark skin beauty. Ask the question again.

SPEAKER_01

I was asking, what are some red flags and men that are in jail who are lovey dovey with a woman while they in there, but when they come home, it's a different situation. So, what are some red flags we can look out for to know if who are dealing with that? If he just uses you for money or just you know, if they really mean it what they're saying, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But see, see, see the red flags, you ain't gonna be able to identify that until he gets out. Because see in jail, we're gonna we're gonna riley romance it. Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna exercise the casting over to the highest extent. You think I'm saying? Because in jail, you always definitely, you know, you always want a companion. Nobody wants to be lonely in jail. You feel what I'm saying? But when he gets out, this is where the this is where you're saying the red flag's gonna come in. Because we you now we're gonna see if you're gonna stand on all that you was thinking about me while you was in there. You feel what I'm saying? Yeah, because it's it's it's it's it's numerous of things that a man can do to let a that to make a woman feel secure. Don't cheat, don't lie, help out financially, show plenty of affection. You dig what I'm saying? And just be honest. These are my five things that I think that a man can do to if I can if I can lock these in, the woman ain't got nothing to say to me. You feel what I'm saying? So now you gotta you gotta you gotta see if he's gonna stand doing all what he was saying. Because it's like it's like it's like it's like the age, like the window period. I'm gonna tell you all what you want to hear, and then I'm gonna gradually slow you who I really am. So you gotta go by it gotta be, it gotta because you don't really know nobody till you live with them. Exactly. You don't know nobody till you live with them. Oh no, not actually then we'll both spend time with them because now you can compromise. I don't like that, I like this, I don't like that, I like that. Go both ways. So, like you said, the red flag is gonna be you gotta be around them, you dig at I'm saying, to actually see it. If he ain't giving you right, if he ain't giving you that time, then that's that's a red flag because you already told me coming in that it's about me and you. You feel what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so one more thing. When y'all gonna get James on the phone? Y'all know he's family. We gotta get him up here. What's up? I got you.

SPEAKER_10

I'm gonna get we're gonna we're gonna probably get James on here. Hey James, next week, man, we're gonna get you up here on the show, man. Next week. James the flames. Okay, hit us up, James. We're getting you up here, man. Absolutely. Tell us from the jails who you speaking with. Can't hear you. Say it again.

SPEAKER_08

Oh, y'all hear me?

SPEAKER_10

You can hear me down. What's going on? Who you speaking with?

SPEAKER_08

What's up, man? This is Malik.

SPEAKER_10

Malik. Oh, this is this is uh this is this is your uh what's it called? Who? Stepson.

SPEAKER_08

No, it ain't, man.

SPEAKER_10

My bad. I thought I thought that's what it was.

SPEAKER_08

Nah, this this is Malik from Orlando, Florida.

SPEAKER_10

Oh, shout out to Orlando, Florida, man. What's going on?

SPEAKER_08

Yes, sir. Nah, I really I just got on. Um, I seen y'all have Ms. I'm like, man, I gotta call in. That last episode with Ms. was funny as shit. But um, I got two push uh two quick questions actually. So I noticed that this off topic too. This ain't got nothing to do with jail or nothing like that, but I noticed that y'all's like big boxing fans. I always hear fake talking about boxing like Shakur and like Boots and all them other niggas and shit. But um, do y'all fuck with UFC?

SPEAKER_10

Yeah, I do. Yeah, I watched a little bit of it.

SPEAKER_00

I ain't been watching it lately, but I fuck with UFC.

SPEAKER_10

The reason why I messed I like UFC because everybody fight everybody, they don't they don't duck nobody. Yeah, it's just yeah, it's like they ain't no ducking.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, they really fighters can't beat boxers.

SPEAKER_10

They can't they they boxing. Nah, that's the be out of the way.

SPEAKER_08

They boxing, they more willing than willing to jump in there with boxes. They boxers gotta keep their feet on the grid with them.

SPEAKER_10

Yeah, Shakur Stevenson and them dudes tanking them and going into UFC. Uh because once you get once you get the Pittsburgh scoop, um dude, you you it's over.

SPEAKER_00

See, see, people see people see people to see what Floyd did with uh with uh Conor McGregor and me thinking that you could mix the two.

SPEAKER_10

That was like that, that was yeah, Floyd ain't going to the octagon. You could forget that.

SPEAKER_00

You see, he brought him to his world, yeah.

SPEAKER_08

And that that goes that goes for all the other boxes too. Like if it's just boxing, yeah. The UFC fighters can compete, but if the boxings come over to UFC, it's over. But I just I just had a quick question, another quick question, too.

SPEAKER_10

What's going on?

SPEAKER_08

So um I don't know, I don't know if y'all seen, but UFC they come into uh to Philly in August.

SPEAKER_10

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_08

Y'all should definitely yeah, y'all, yeah. They come into the Wells Fargo arena.

SPEAKER_10

Oh, yeah. I'm gonna try I'm gonna try to be that out. Yeah, I got a ticket bowl too. Oh yeah, let's get it.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, man. I'm I'm planning a little trip out there. So I'm gonna ask y'all. I'm definitely not going nowhere near the trenches or nothing where y'all are.

SPEAKER_00

You gonna be downtown anyway. They ain't putting no UFC in the trenches anyway. That's all all that shit by the airport. Yeah, it's all by the airport.

SPEAKER_08

I just wanted to ask if y'all knew like any good spots to eat, like somewhere that's gonna be like close to like well target or skinny Joey's.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely not, absolutely not. No, I'm just fucking around.

SPEAKER_09

Skinny Joey's cheese stick, cheese stick. Some good wings, some of them.

SPEAKER_10

Yeah, miss some spots. Like, you just want to get a cheese stick, you can go with Joey's. Yeah, but some good spots to go out and eat. Like, I don't they they ain't paying us, so I ain't I mean, I ain't gonna give no shout outs to that.

SPEAKER_08

But it's definitely cloud my no gyms. I'm gonna just have to set it down in the city and find my own spots, uh man. But if I'm gonna scream out, if I'm gonna show I'm gonna I'm gonna have to run this episode back and watch this shit because I already know, man. If Miz is on there, that shit gonna be funny as hell.

SPEAKER_10

Yeah, and just because you said skinny jills, I gotta give a shout out to my guy uh uh Garcia and uh go get it go down there and get a steak from uh Garcia and them. Go down Carter's shout out to my guy Garcia. But man, thanks for calling in, man. Enjoy your night, bro. Be safe, bro.

SPEAKER_08

Shout out to Orlando, yes, sir. Yes, sir. Y'all too. Have a good one.

SPEAKER_10

We got another call in there. Yeah, so listen, once again, like we said, we uh offering a free promotion for businesses, man. So hit us up on Instagram um at tells from the jails or hit us or or email us um at uh tells from jails at gmail.com. You want to get on the show and promote your business. Tell us from the jails, we speaking with.

SPEAKER_05

What's going on, man?

SPEAKER_10

What's going on, man? We still call from again South Philly?

SPEAKER_05

No, I'm from North.

SPEAKER_10

Oh North South North. What's going on?

SPEAKER_05

I just was calling to say what the young nock the job, you hear me. I've been working for two years, man, I'm still respecting the world connected and the females are gonna love me even more now.

SPEAKER_00

You really know you gotta they know you gotta steady check. Steady income.

SPEAKER_10

They got they you got you ain't going to jail.

SPEAKER_00

They know they know you're getting paid every week or two. They know they get a couple hours every two weeks.

SPEAKER_10

Don't let it be uh uh weekly, they be all over you.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I play some learning, so I come from the same as a big company.

SPEAKER_00

So that's all I really gonna say.

SPEAKER_10

That's all shout to you though, man. Keep doing what you're doing.

SPEAKER_00

Working man, working man is always the way to go. Working man is keep working, we in play now. Yeah, man. Work work work your way to a better pedestal for yourself, man. For sure, and your family if you got any kids, you dig I'm saying working is definitely part of a legacy to let people know that you definitely got to work hard for the things that you want in life. Ain't that wrong with working, brother?

SPEAKER_10

Yeah, no doubt. All right, man. Shout out to you, man. J Knight, man. Thanks for calling in.

SPEAKER_05

All right, y'all.

SPEAKER_10

So about to get up out of here, man. Hey, Ms. You want to say you want to say before we get up out of here?

SPEAKER_00

Uh man, I'm glad y'all let me come back on the platform, man. Good to see y'all, brothers. I mean, I can sit back and bid off black. Black had me on the block list, too. You know that, right? Oh, yeah, yeah. He did this nigga block. This nigga had me blocked. I call him, then he's gonna call me three o'clock. You don't know if I'm getting active or nothing. He just called three o'clock in the morning. This thing I'm gonna answer the phone. Like, I thought something was going on.

SPEAKER_10

Those are the hours.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, he up, he up bored watching Pornhub. I'm like, Yeah, call him.

SPEAKER_10

You know what he said when he watched for a call, man. Did he tell you what he watched for an hour and 17 minutes? Watch Gilligan's Isle and shit like that. No, he said he watched something for an hour and 17 minutes, man. The whole the whole video from front from from beginning to end.

SPEAKER_09

What'd you watch? Michael Jackson? Michael Jackson, Michael Action. Michael, Michael's name, Michael Action. Michael. Oh, Mr.

SPEAKER_00

You say Mr. Marcus, your situation.

SPEAKER_09

No, no, no. Some shit. No.

SPEAKER_10

He said he watched something for an hour and 17 minutes, man.

SPEAKER_09

Oh, you might go keep getting on that. Yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah, look he's mad. Look, he's mad. Why don't you break that up? That's not that's abnormal, man.

SPEAKER_10

Behavior, man. You up at three o'clock in the morning doing some crazy.

SPEAKER_00

I wasn't up at three o'clock in the morning doing that. You say you put him boy, you putty more black. I was saying I would be you know, I'll be calling black people we're worried about it.

SPEAKER_10

Yeah, you worry about it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, black black, black, black a little shot sometimes. One day, listen, before we leave, one day, right? Me and black, we was we was we was we was down the way. Breaking the law did that too. But we was down the way, right? We was down the way and shit, right? So me and black having a conversation, right? Brother Fulan Flan come up saucy. They know what they said, they go do with me and black too. They come up, right? Brother Fulan flan saucy. He don't know what's going on. Me and Black have a conversation, me black. Other brother from the block, we out there tripping, we ripped, that's bull, bull. He came up with all this bullshit, right? So I now did these. Turn the whole move black just get active. So now I'm trying to stop him from from them from rippling. Then the brother, then the young boy brother right there, too. Then I'm daddy trying to sell some clothes.

SPEAKER_10

It's time to go.

SPEAKER_00

I said, Yeah, I'm telling black chick, y'all fuck. He's black, saucy. Yeah, black. That's my band, man.

SPEAKER_09

Yeah, I get away from him. That's my bad. Yeah, I get away from him.

SPEAKER_00

Black people black leave his phone on the steps one day. Oh man, got in trouble.

SPEAKER_10

Hey, hey, listen, y'all. Listen, man. Wanna thank everybody for tuning in? Don't forget to hit the hit the like button. Um, thank all y'all for um uh being subscribers. I want to thank all y'all who who are members. We appreciate all the support. Uh we can't do this without y'all. We thank y'all for uh for uh being here with us. Thank y'all for uh you know supporting what we got going on. Like I said, we're gonna be allowing businesses to come up here to promote their businesses for free. It's gonna be a selected number of people that's gonna be going to allow to do it, but you have an opportunity to reach out to us, contact us, hit us up on Instagram, let us know you want to get your, you know, get your you want to promote your business. We have a whole segment for uh business owners to come up here and talk about their business on our platform um for free. Like I said, for free. Hit us up on IG or email us um at tellsfromjails at gmail.com. We're gonna put that out there. You want to give back to the community, to everybody who's been watching us. If you have a business, you want to promote it, you know what I mean? Hit us up, man. Um, anything else y'all want to say before we go?

SPEAKER_00

Jail is nut shit. This just know that on all platforms, jail is corny shit, man. Jail is not a way, uh it's not a patch, it's through the for your legacy to let people know that you're a gangster. That's corny shit. Getting money and living life and traveling the world is the best thing you can ever do, man. Penitentiary county, corny shit, man. Being away from your family, your kids, your women, all that laying next to something soft and all that nut shit. That that's what you that's we want to stay away from. It ain't nothing like waking up with a with your shit rocking your girl right there. Yeah, for sure. That's the best thing in the world, yeah. I agree. Farting and all that nut shit and all that. Yeah, stay out of jail, please.

SPEAKER_10

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_00

That's the best thing. Stay free, man. Please, it's beautiful out here.

SPEAKER_09

Anything you want to say, young before we go? Man, he already know what it is, man. It's getting closer to the weekend, man. Uh it's gonna be hot these next couple days coming. It's gonna rain, black. It's not gonna be hot. It's gonna rain. It's gonna rain again tomorrow. Absolutely. It's gonna rain, black. Oh, it's raining the rest of these weeks. Oh, well, yeah, but shit. Well, you still niggas still going to jail in the rain. You know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, think about it. I always tell y'all, man, think about it, man. Use that extra two to three to five seconds, man. That's all it takes. Think that that's it. That that right there, two to three seconds could change your life for the best or for the damn worst. Gut filling.

SPEAKER_00

It's called the gut filling. Go with it. Don't go against it. Go with it. That should save your life. Every time.

SPEAKER_10

Save your life, man. So I want to thank everybody for tuning in once again. Don't forget to follow us on all platforms. Check us out on Spotify, uh, iHeartRadio, uh, uh, Apple Podcasts. As you know, we're climbing up climbing the charts as far as uh podcasts. We're hitting the charts, man. We got some good news, but we only get it because of y'all watching us. So we appreciate y'all. Um, all the listeners, all subscribers, every all around the world. Everybody, thank you for tuning in. It's Tells from the Jails. We are about here.