CHOOSING YOUR CHILDS FRIENDS : TALES FROM THE JAILS LIVE!!!

The host Braheem and Tawfiq speak about the importance of choosing your children friends. Braheem and Tawfiq had different opinions in regards to this matter however they agreed that paying attention to your children is very important.

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SPEAKER_09 9:34

I would think that me, see, I'm not too much of a basketball fanatic. I'm a fanatic in football. I would say that the Eagles uh fans is more rowdy, like you're not coming in that stadium causing no hoopla all in there. Not in it, not in the link. Not in the link. Yeah, the Sixers.

SPEAKER_08 9:54

I guess I guess the Sixers fans is represent or the play or the players are how the fans are, I'm assuming. Like they our players not really gritty like that. Not to say they're not they're not good players, but Maxi always smiling. He's a good player, though. He always smiling. And B don't really smile, but he don't really show no fire. He got three techs this year, only three. I want to see it a little higher. I want to see him, you know, just I don't know what to do. Show a little emotion. It's not it's not a sports show, but yeah, but show just show emotion. I'm a little taken back by the fact that we got swept. But yeah, um, so let's get the tells from the jails, man. You know, uh, it's been a topic that's been mentioned to us. I know, I think I don't know if we spoke about it before, but um why is it that uh jail is a revolving door for many inmates? Why is it that people the inmates or people that serve time behind a prison wall cannot get it right? They cannot figure it out. They got to go back, they got to go back, they gotta go back. Some of them go back, you know, some end up getting a uh a one to one or two to four in the doing the whole four years or more because of the fact that they can't stay out of prison because they get they come back out here doing the same thing, people, places, and things, or whatever the case may be, they're always going back to jail. I mean, I can I can go first and give you my opinion on why I think well for me the reason why that happens is that I think that you know uh we aren't um a lot of people aren't uh thinking about themselves. They have they they're trying to when I say think about yourself, you're not you're not putting, you're not thinking about you know your livelihood and what can happen to you. Because everybody who goes to jail always make a make a mis make an excuse. A lot of times when they go to jail, they say, I had to get some money for my family or how to do this for my family. But that may have been the case, though, Feak. Yeah, I understand that, but they're still you gotta put yourself first.

SPEAKER_09 11:52

Because now you're putting yourself first regardless. You're just doing a bad thing. But you putting your but you taking the easy ride.

SPEAKER_08 11:58

Let me let me let me get to the point. What I'm saying. You say I gotta do all the things for my family, I do all the stuff for my family. If that's the case, why you ain't saying I had to do it for me? You know what I'm saying? Put yourself for do things that's just because at the end of the day, man, like our kids, our kids, I'm not done. Our kids get grown. Oh, yeah, and then absolutely become you. Let me finish. So our kids get grown, everybody gets grown, everybody, you can't risk your life for someone else that makes your i was fine. Go go get you a job and work your way out, work your way up, and then you know, take you'll be able to take care of people to the best of your ability. Because sometimes we look at, like I said, and this is we spoke about this all the time. People are quick to look at people who have more than them instead of looking at people who have less than them. And this is my opinion. I had to really check myself when I was trying to get myself to set myself together. I always looked at the fact that I always had so much stuff and had so many things until I started to look at the fact that I had read I had read this one thing, and it said, I I I used to look at um the fact that I didn't have any shoes until I looked at this man and saw that he didn't have any feet. Like I was complaining about having shoes, but I looked over and see the man who didn't have any feet. And that changed my perspective. You know, this is something that made me like, you know what? I gotta start trying to do things. There's no progress without struggle. But you gotta put yourself first and think about yourself and your freedom. Your kids, your kids, your wife, nobody's worth your freedom. You're right. You know what I'm saying? So that's just a wild excuse. I I would I wouldn't take that excuse from anybody. And I understand, you know, people have their excuses. I get it for my kids, I get them. Nah, man. Do things for yourself. Now you can go ahead speak. That's just my opinion.

SPEAKER_09 13:50

Me, I see whereas though it's a lot of people that don't have patience. There's the patience, the patience ain't there. Um you know, some of the dudes in jail, they did they in jail because they was they was getting some money, whether it be legal or ill legit, ill illegal. And that that that's what's going on. That's what's going on. Hold on, hold on. Let me take a break real fast.

SPEAKER_08 14:28

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SPEAKER_09 16:05

Yeah, there's not a lot of uh patience with a lot of dudes just coming home from you know incarceration, man. You know, and when I say patience, man, it may take a while for a dude, you know, that's been incarcerated for a long period of time to come home to get on his feet, man. And then, you know, a lot of you, I I hear what you're saying about, you know, putting yourself first, but you know, a lot of dudes is coming home and they they left when the baby was an infants, and then the baby's two, three. Like that baby need that baby meet it be the mom, yo, yeah. Especially if you are alright, dude, you still gonna try to make things work and stick to this one course. But when things don't be panning out at your things don't gotta pan out at your time. It don't, you gotta stick it through. So my whole thing is don't nobody have enough patience. A lot of dudes that go back to jail, bro. Like with me. I like to answer questions off of how I would react. And I went back to jail before. I didn't have patience. What you tell me the first time? If I'd have gone back, if I ain't never went back to jail for that violation, no telling where I would be at right now. I lost years of my life because of my patience. My patience ran thin. I went out there and jeopardized my life. Not only did I you lose years of my life, but I jeopardized myself and put myself back in prison. Because granted, I was getting a few bucks. I'm selling the yerks at an alarming rate. Okay, but I still cut a corner. Why? Because I had to go back to the penitentiary. I think I think you came home and hangs to hang with the wrong people. It wasn't even about hanging with the uh it's it's not even about hanging with you start hanging around, hanging down the way again. Yeah, but it's still you know, it's still come or regardless of where I'm hanging at, you still uh if I'm not bettering myself or uh uh any aspect that I'm trying to get involved with as far as the financial wise or something like that, I could be by myself and them thoughts and all that is gonna be coming to me. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I ain't gotta be around nobody to make a good or bad decision.

SPEAKER_08 17:54

That's you do. I'm gonna tell you why, because a lot of times, because you you never you never really you never really gonna fully understand stuff until you really look at look at the people that you're hanging around. If you hang around somebody all the time who, if they selling drugs, you're gonna you're gonna party start selling drugs. If they get high and getting drunk, you're gonna be getting drunk. Because they're gonna encourage you to do what they're doing. And they're gonna and you might see them having success in whatever they're doing, and your pockets is flat, or whatever, because the bitch for now is gonna entice you to want to want to do that.

SPEAKER_09 18:22

I don't agree with that, bro. Like you bro, I don't agree with that, bro. I do. I sit in the house on days on then on the weekends. I've been in the house the whole weekend now, the whole weekend. My mind be all over the place. I don't gotta be around now. But now I'm telling you, I'm this weekend, I'm in there biting at the bit.

SPEAKER_08 18:38

I'm saying, but you you had to you had to go back to really now you're like, all right. You're like, all right, now I'm going, I'm gonna really fall back and really try because you already went back, you ain't trying to go back to jail, and you kind of got some something's going, but everything happens for a reason. Like I had a situation before, I'm like, yo, I told you, I said just be because I I knew that I was coming back with a with a crazy situation, and I came back, I'm like, yo, I said just you know, I mean, do this right now, dry this, do that, whatever the case may be. But I knew what I was doing, right? And I was trying to tell you and tell everybody else, like, yo, just but patience. That's why I say go go report back to I'm gonna tell you something. I knew because somebody close to us told us, said, like, it, like, if he said, he said, if young and start hanging around people, we're gonna he gonna be gone. You just had to make a decision what you're gonna do, and I was like, you're right. And it was true. Once you once you start hanging around them more, you start just disappearing, disappearing away from away from away from us and away from me. And then you may have missed out on another opportunity, but you got an opportunity here. But the thing about it is you was hanging around doing stuff that we going back to. I'd come down the way and see that way. I'm like, dang, shh, I try to talk to you, but it would just, and then I had already things that already came through, so it was like I it was just more so you had already made your mind up because of the people that you was hanging around. And I don't hang down the way, I stopped hanging down the way, hanging around people for a reason because I knew that I have I had addiction and certain and certain vices no matter what. And once I removed myself completely from down the way and started focusing on what I needed to focus on, like you know, my religion and so forth and so on, and myself, no matter what struggles, I just had to remove myself. And I heard all that stuff, man, boy, in the way, hang on to nothing. I heard all that stuff from people who ended up needing me in the long run. And I just hear people come say stuff about me, I'm like, damn. You know, but I ended up deciding to move myself and separate myself from people, and then because I I knew I didn't, I knew I didn't want to go to jail. I knew I didn't want to lose my life because I seen it over and over and over again. But like you said, sometimes people gotta figure out, and and and I ain't gonna lie, I'm I I started to make moves and I just to start, I like I did not just thought about it, I didn't worth it. Like everybody else, I stuck I took a nah man, I can't do that. Think about it, right? You know, so that's just how it how how how it how it is, but we have to understand that people, places, and things are serious, man. Like you can't like a like a like like a person who's on crack can't expect to go hang around crackheads. Exactly. And be, yeah. And they're gonna they're gonna pass a huh.

SPEAKER_09 21:19

Yeah, but but but with this, see, I don't like to use it because with this type of addiction right here for some cash, same thing. No, no, no. I think it's worse than the crack addiction. Like, you don't have to be around now. Granted, more likely than not, if you're around the wrong group, you're gonna fall back to your old tricks. You know, you're around the right group, or yeah, you ain't got nothing, you know, ain't selling dope. The right group ain't selling dope, everybody going to work, but shit not be coming. Uh, they because they you gotta solidify your when you in the right group, man. What I'm learning, what I'm learning walking every day. Just because you got friends around you that may be better off, don't mean you're gonna reach their uh where they at right at that point, anyway. You make super. Correct. But in order to do that, it's going to take time. It's not going to happen overnight. It's not. I don't give a fuck. Man, listen, man. If y'all don't listen to nothing else I said, man, listen to that. A person that's putting his head down doing the right thing is extremely hard, bro. Extremely. And I'm telling you that from my own experiences. And when I say hard, it's like not hard, like where's though it's something heavy to pick up and all. Like the mind, the mind battle, man, is a vicious war. It's more tiring, it's more intriguing than a physical war. Because you're sitting there, because don't nobody know what you're thinking. So you can hide that all day long. And then you ultimately got to make the choice. But if you're going to take that right road, man, it comes with patience, man. Patience, man. Patience. I've been home now, what, two, two, two years and some change, man. I mean, two years, coming up on two years, man. And granted, shit been rough, shit been tight, but I just keep you got to keep your head. After you think of that, then what you think? All right, well, I can go back and I can do this and I could do this for a minute. And that might sound pleasing, and it might be true you could do that. You know what I'm saying? But is it worth it? Is the risk worth the is the reward worth the risk? No. You know, then we only getting older. We ain't getting younger. Yeah. We ain't getting no younger. You know what I'm saying? And I like I like I say, I like to speak for my behalf, what I go through because I feel as though it's real. You know what I'm saying? Patience, man. Patience is the number one thing of why a lot of why the recidivism rate is so high in America, man. A lot of people don't have the patience, man. Man, shit may not pay out for a month, two months, six months, year, two, three years, four years, man. Do you might see a dude, you know what I mean, riding down the street in his little jag or whatever the case may be, just a luxury, but you don't know what he had to go through to get to this point right here. And I'm guaranteeing you one thing, it ain't happened overnight unless he got a scratch off ticket or something like that, or ran in a house with three, four hundred million stash that motherfucker, and how many people doing that? Shit, I ain't met one yet. And I know a lot of people, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_08 24:05

So it starts with patience, like you said, the right people, you hang around the right people, you know, and just and motivation. You gotta be motivated to want to wanna, you know, go out and obtain something because the motivation can factor can can dwindle away too if you're not seeing nothing. You gotta stay motivated, stay, stay wanting to do something.

SPEAKER_09 24:24

Yeah, you do get that too. I I find myself at times becoming disgruntled, man. Like, like today, I'm sitting in the crib, man, I'm sitting on the bed, I'm like, for what? You know what I mean? Because you know, self-preservation is the first thing that all men got. You know what I mean? You know, regardless of you may look out for somebody, you may do that, you might do that for her, do that for the kids. At the end of the day, you want to make sure you cool. Because if you ain't cool, you ain't gonna be able to do none of that. Nah, man. You know what I'm saying? So that right there, I just be, I just be in you, you you and you gotta step toward you. Just because you sit back and you want it, don't mean it's gonna happen. You gotta get up and put your feet on the ground and go get it. Exactly. You it's a lot of us. I want a nice car, man. I want some money in my pocket, but guess what? Me wanting it right now, still got these motherfuckers flat. Just me sitting here wanting it. I ain't got a goddamn red sitting there. Got it flat. I after the want, got to come the mobility to go towards that want. That's a lot of people forget about that, man. People want, hey, I want a big old house, I want a lake, and sit back and go to sleep after that and dream about it. Nah, it's not gonna come like that, man. It's not gonna come from a motherfucker giving it to you. It's not gonna things that I have learned this time around, man, it's like a real eye-opener for me, man. A real eye-opener. And a lot of and what was and I'm it's gonna be sad for me to say this, but it's the truth. But hopefully other things can follow, other feelings can follow. But the reason why I don't go break law, because I don't want to go to jail, bro. Not because it's not the right thing to do. I'll be sitting here lying to you. Oh, I'm not selling drugs because it's killing the community. Oh, I'm not selling drugs because little kids is becoming addicted in the wombs of mothers. No, it's not because of none of that for me. It's because I don't want to go to jail. I ain't trying to go to jail. And is selling drugs wrong? Absolutely right, but my first thought ain't is wrong. My first thought is going to jail. Now hopefully over time, these other feelings could come in of because I know it's wrong. I I know it's wrong, but that's not my first thought. But you'll at least at least you know you know it's wrong. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_08 26:26

And I just be like you may get to you make it to the point and be like, which go, but I'm telling you another thing too. That's real. Whenever you're going through a struggle, man, and it's hard. Whenever you're going through some some hard times, we all go through hard times at different points. And depression. Depression and I be depressed, man. I really see it in there, and I be depressed, and I'm weird with. And listen, I'm telling you, like I would say all the time, like, when you get money and you may still be tested with certain things, you're gonna be depressed. I found myself depressed. Like, the last couple weeks, I was depressed. Like, I was going to the gym every day, I'm working out every day. Um, you know, then I had things that happened to me and things that happened in my life, and then so much stuff was just compounding, and I found myself like depressed. And I had to really like, even though I had the motivation to go out and go do stuff, that depression kicks in and it takes away all your morale, meaning like you want to like you want to do nothing. Maybe you want to lay around all day. I laid around this whole week, and feet. It felt me, I listen, I felt like I wanted to lay around all day. I'm just sitting in the crib like I'm laying around, I'm like. It felt like it. I did it. No, I'm saying, I'm but there was days that there was days that I did do it, but I had to shake out of it, man. Like, I had to shake out of it because that depression kicked in. And and it's normal for you to for you to become depressed because it's a normal emotion to be depressed by certain things, but you just can't let it just like stress you too much because overwhelm you. It's gonna it'll have you sick. Yeah, then you would start forgetting out about I ain't going to work, I ain't doing nothing. Yeah, yeah. But it's all a test now, because when that depression kick in, because some people take depression can make some people take their own life. Yeah. And depression is serious, yeah. Yeah, you know what I mean. That's a real serious thing. And then on top of you going through certain things, you just being tested to see if you can maintain, but you be tested with your wealth, your children, your health, all these different things that you could be tested with. And then sometimes, man, you hit you can hit a brick wall, man. You gotta just shake out of that funk and just realize, like, oh man, listen, this is what God chose for me. This is the this is what he chose to to befell me. And then I gotta just work work out of it. You know what I'm saying? But yeah, but I'm a human being. I'd be like, why the fuck me? Because I mean, I'd be like, Wow, me?

SPEAKER_09 28:46

What that thing works who said I'm I'm this strong to take on this. Hello. Like, I be I be questioning myself, like, yo, why I got to go through this shit been crunchy from birth. Since I slid out the wound, this shit just been bad. From the root of the cooter for real. And I ain't trying to make nobody laugh. I hit the floor coming out the motherfucking what's the name? Yeah. Coming out the vagina, hit the floor. How much more worse is the things getting? You've been like, well, god dang. And I be seeing, I understand, I wouldn't probably do it, but I be seeing like they ain't killed. Like that, that shit. That like you said, the depression, bro. That depression, like, man, that's why people do the things that they do, man, because of certain aspects of life that they don't want to be in. Just amazing. That's why people get high, they try to numb it. That's why people rob stuff, because they broke the depression. All this is from a form of depression that a person is going through.

SPEAKER_08 29:40

Yeah, but I just think that for me, and I'm not knocking nobody else, you know, what they go through, but for me, I just think that you gotta just go through the storm. You can't go backwards, because going backwards is doing the wrong thing. You're going back and taking steps. So we gotta take them steps forward. Like keep pushing forward because if you keep pushing forward, you're gonna ultimately, you know, make it, you know, make sure you're not switcher, man. You keep, you keep, you keep you keep pushing forward, you know, and and you um you start to see like things lose the tension going away. If you keep going forward. But you go backwards, think about it. I go backwards, I go asked sound joy. Now, now I'm in jail again, and I'm depressed all over again. But if you just keep going straight and keep pushing through it, you'll be okay. You'll be alright. You know what I mean? It's gonna be hard for a day, a week, sometimes even longer than that. But if you just keep pushing, you're gonna make it through it. So nobody should get discouraged. And always, I tell you, I tell you people all this all the time. I tell my kids this all the time. Always look to those who are doing worse than you. Don't look at those who are doing better than you, man, because it's gonna you're not gonna never see what you need to see, you're not gonna never learn what you need to learn. Look at those who have less than you, those who are people don't have a house, people don't have clothes, people don't have nothing, people don't have anything. And we sit back and look at it like, dang, like you said, my man got a jag, you know, we never know what he went through to get it, but it's some people out here that just walking, it's some moms that's getting on the bus every day, some some women that's gotta drop their kids off over here and drive over here. They ain't got no man, their husband is in jail or whatever. They got to figure it out on their own. And they gotta go to work and do all the different things. And we sit back and be like, complain about what we got we got going on. It's some people that's no disrespect, people that are in wheelchairs who don't have no money, people who are paralyzed from the neck down, people who don't have who have disease, who have cancer. Like, you know, I want to start going, that's what I want to start going through these hot these hospitals, looking at these young kids who are struggling suffering from cancer, five, six, seven, eight, younger than that, you know, it's life is not about looking at who has more than you, man. I'm telling y'all, man. For me, it changed my life. Whenever I'm going through a hard time, I look at people who got less than me. And it helped me like, damn, why am I complaining? Mm-hmm. Like, man, I'm complaining. I got I'm healthy. I can go outside, I can go hop in the car, I can go drive, I can go do what I need to do. Or if I can even if I can't get in the car, I can go walk to the store. I got my freedom, you know what I'm saying? I got my help. I can I can just embrace what I'm going through. Because I go through a lot too. And we always try to say money makes it better, but money, I'm telling y'all, from money don't always make it better all the time. You're still a human at the end of the day. Still a human. You know what I'm saying? Still a human. Peace of mind is worth is worth is it's priceless. If you got a peace of mind, people, if you got, if if you listen, if you if you got unruly kids who ain't trying to listen, let them go. You got an unruly woman in your life who ain't trying to let her go. You got an unruly husband who ain't trying to better himself, let them go. Worry about you, move forward, because all these things on top of what you got going on is gonna hinder you, man. It's gonna take away from your life. Take it, it's gonna take years off your life. So if you got whatever you got that's going on, that's that's that that's that's you got a bad habit, that's just that's just that's taking all your money or whatever the case may be. You know what I mean? Let it go. Let it go, man, because it's gonna drive you crazy or lead to you back in prison or wherever, whatever it's gonna be. You got friends who ain't, you know, your friends, man. You know your people around, they just want to get high all day, get drunk all day, they want to go to the club all the time, they want to party over here, they want to, you know what I'm saying? Sometimes you want to just you can't do that with them all the time. You know what I'm saying? You can't do that. You can't just waste your life and your time just getting high all day, getting drunk all day, sitting on the block, sitting on the corner. When are we gonna start talking about let's go flop some job evocations, let's go, let's go do something positive, let's let's do a workshop, let's try to do something. Those are the people need to be around. People will try to get further in life and to do different things that can put you on something. But you know, yeah, I said, around yourself with pe with good people. You know what I'm saying? That's why I said for me, I stopped hanging in the hood for a long period. And I come through there, say what's up, but I'm looking at I'm looking at myself. Not that I'm I'm I'm bougie. I'm like, I just don't waste the time down this junk. He over here doing this, he over here doing that. I'm looking at this stuff like next thing you know, he charged with murder, he in jail, he don't like him no more. He he it just is it's like ah man, like she pregnant by him, she messed with him, him and him. It's just like, come on, man. And we gotta get better as individuals. I'm not and then I'm I'm not knocking when nobody else got going. I'm just saying for me, and I'm not saying that I'm bougie. I just said I come around, I'll be like, ah man, this joint ain't for me. That's not for me to go. The world is much bigger than the block that I'm from. Because I didn't travel and seen different places, and I understand that the world is vast and there's different people all around the world. It's not just about West Philly, North Philly, South Philly, wherever hood you're from, anybody can be from the Bronx, Brooklyn. It ain't it's the world is vast. It's so much stuff to accomplish out here in the world. It's then this should be stuck in a neighborhood or go or go to jail for a block. You did 21 years for it ain't worth it. No, it wasn't worth it. Who owns the who owned and who owned the neighborhood down there? Yeah, who owned the neighborhood? Like who, like, okay, we the 21 years, we said we said we own we own the neighborhood. We we don't really own nothing down there. At all. And they should us too. Yeah. Own nothing. So, you know, it just it is what it is. You know what I'm saying? Some people, you know, you may be in a position at some point to buy buy stuff certain certain parts of your neighborhood, yeah. But for the most part, we really don't own we don't you don't own that, you don't own a neighborhood. We don't send you to jail for a very long time. You know what I mean? But I just I just think that you know sometimes, and that's a hard thing too to do too, man, to detach yourself from friends because as you get older, you start to really realize and see who people really is. You know what I'm saying? As you distance yourself from people, you know, you start that, like, really realize that like a person a person may accuse you or something or say something about you they shouldn't say, but can't even call you to apologize when they wrong. Yeah. Can't even can't we we we we we we know each other for for forever. I know you forever. You know what I'm saying? I know you, I know you for forever. Since I can remember, we didn't we done been through so much together, been around each other so much, been breaking law together, riding together, and a person uh uh say something wrong about you or do something wrong to you, and then can't even call you like a man and be like, yo, I apologize, man. You know that was wrong, man. I ain't you know like damn, you got my phone number? You can't call me and tell me like, yo, am I bad? I apologize. Is that making you too soft to call me and say, yo, no, I was I was wrong? We can't because if I did it, I would have called you. Even in the situation, I call, hey, what's going on with this situation? How they supposed to whoa, what's going on? As your brother, you but you can't call me and say, yo, look, man, my bad. I was wrong. I mean, I I was mistaken, or this it was it was something, you know what I'm saying? You know, we gotta we gotta we gotta get better, man. But sometimes you gotta detach yourself from people, not saying you don't love them no more, but sometimes people can bring you down or not want good for you, not saying this is the case with this person, but sometimes people do people don't want good for you. You know? I know I'm a person that's very transparent, like I don't talk about people behind their back. And and if somebody comes to me talking to me about me, talking to somebody about behind their back to me, I'd be like, nah, I try to make I try he gets mad at me all the time because I always try to say, nah, this person is a good nigga, no, they ain't like that. Probably ain't like that. I try to make excuses for people. He always like, can't make excuses for everybody, can't be doing that. But I still do it because you know, I understand that everybody makes mistakes. You know what I mean? He always tried, he always gets mad at me. Like you sophists, you know, and he be ready to take people's head off now on duty. But you know, it's just a matter of just trying to figure it out. But I think that you know, we gotta really be real mindful of who we who we dealing with. Anything else you want to add to that topic?

SPEAKER_09 38:19

Um to that topic, man, that's just a real personal topic to for me, man. It's real personal for me, man. It it can get crazy at any given time. But for a person not to go back to jail, his ultimate thing, he gotta be patient. Patience. Patience runs the world, patience and anything you do, man. Especially coming home from jail, man. Especially coming home. You're gonna need a patience by the boat loads. So I say with that, man, that can a lot of dudes practice patience on things that they want coming home from jail. That'll uh lessen the recidivism rate.

SPEAKER_08 38:55

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SPEAKER_09 44:37

I had to go back in there. That frustration, like I said, that it was only 18 months that I had to go back. That was longer than the 21 years I did for me mentally. You know what I'm saying? For you to come back in there to be charged with a case that give you a lot of time after you've been released from there, man. Man, that that I can't even describe that type of hurt. Or it's not even a hurt. It's a it's not a hurt because you it don't hurt, but it's like it's a it's an uneasy feeling. It's a bad, bad, bad feeling. And it's like, and you can't get from underneath it. Ain't nothing you can do to get from underneath it. Every day you wake up in here is a shocking reality. So it's like, meant to be back in there after you didn't serve the time for serve time for something that you was convicted of, and to be back in there with a whole nother situation, bro. That's what man, that's one of the worst is ever, man. I went there, I told you that 18 months felt longer than 21 years. You see what Newski said, he said I just did five years and went back for 21 days. And what'd he say? That's it. That's it. That's what I told the judge before. I said, regardless of you sentence me to a year to 40 years, it's gonna be up to me of how I don't want to come back in here no more. You have a dude to come home to doing 20 years and be right back in there a year later. A year later, regardless of how he feels or whatever, dudes is doing that at a alarming rate. So, you know, man, you just gotta pace yourself, man, be patient, man. But with that, that whole feeling with that, man, is it's bad, bro. It's bad. You back in there, you like, damn, this again. You a little bit more sharper because you know how the judicial system works because you just was in here and served time. So you know everything that's that could happen to you. Everything just weighs on you even harder than that first bid, man. Because you know better now. You know the laws a little bit more. You just sat here and did time. So you know everything that's coming your way this time around, and it's more disgruntling in the mind than it is during that first bid. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 46:44

I think for me now, this time for me, well, for me now, I I got, I'm, I'm looking forward to um the next chapter, the chapter of being a parent. Like I got um got my I got my daughter, I got a I got a 20, 20-year-old son, I got, you know, I got daughters, and and I'm about to have another son, alhamdulillah. Alhamdulillah. And I'm and I and I and I'm looking forward to, you know, just being available for them. And I say this all the time, people think I'm crazy. Like, even if you take, take, take, you know, if if if all m all the money is taken away, I just want to be able to I think availability is as as much as you're available, you always have opportunity. Because you can't there's no opportunities in jail. You know what I'm saying? So if you're available out here, no matter if you matter if you don't have nothing, you're available. It's always an opportunity, it's always a chance to try to get a job, it's always a chance to make some money as long as you're out here and you're available. But if you're not available, you know, you're not gonna have opportunity, then also ultimately ultimately being available as a parent. Like being available. Like sometimes we can make it where it's though it's all about money. Um, but it's really not. It's not, man. Kids need more than money. Yeah, not I'm not saying money, not everything, but kids need more than money. They need your time. I agree. I agree. Talking to them, teaching them, you know. Like I got a son coming, I'm like, I ain't trying to have my son up under his mom all day. I want to have my I want to have him with me. You know what I'm saying? Even my daughters, I don't have my daughters up under their mom all day. They need to spend time with me and like I'm saying, and be around me. Because there's some things that their mom can't teach them and I can teach them. Different aspects. And I'll be with my kids, and they always ain't about no money. They don't really ask me for no money. Don't ask for nothing. You know what I'm saying? And I'll be, they just they they they they want to go ride bikes or they want to go hop on the get on the swing and they want to go, you know, here. They just want to, you know what I'm saying? They want to go here and there, just something, put some gas in the car and go walk through the park or whatever the case may be. They just want to just do stuff and being available for your children and being available for them is the most important thing. Because you, but you can't do that in jail. No, you can't. The phone calls and stuff, them joints don't work, man.

SPEAKER_09 48:58

You ain't gonna do them phone calls from jail don't work. No, they don't work, and you're not gonna be able to do it from jail. You're not gonna be able to correct, discipline, uh, teach, none of that from jail. It's virtually impossible. But when you do get on the phone, you know, is but only but so long, and then the gaps between of you when you can get back on the phone, then you have times where the institutions is locked down for days or months on end. You can't even build a relationship on the phone, let alone anything else. So being in prison is an absolute no of trying to lead a family. That ain't happening in no penitentiary.

SPEAKER_08 49:35

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SPEAKER_09 50:43

Yeah, nigga ain't opening up no letters.

SPEAKER_08 50:46

Like, you know what I'm saying? And then now you gotta you can email, you gotta email a letter. You know, I wrote I wrote AR admin. I talked to him about it. He like, yo, like, I ain't gonna buy send me no, really send me no letters. He like, that was like something I didn't even expect. You know what I'm saying? Because people don't reach out to certain people in jails. And so I take a time, you know, I might take five, ten minutes out of my time and I might write somebody on a letter. I've been writing people letters all the time. You know? And I just reach out to them because you never know what you can say to a person that's in jail because they're going through a hardship. Jail or prison is a hardship. You know what I'm saying? A very bad hardship. I just saw somebody said Lil Dirk offered five million dollars for his freedom. He offered to give up five million. He'd give up more. Just to get out. That could've been all he had. I'm not saying that's all he had, I'm just saying that could be all that he has. And he's willing to give it up.

SPEAKER_09 51:45

Yeah. Just to get out of there. Would you do that? Yes. You goddamn right. You goddamn right. Yes, I will. You give up everything you got. House, car. To get out of jail?

SPEAKER_08 51:57

Yeah. Yeah. Clothes, five million? Yes. Yes. Come on. To get out? Yeah. Somebody like him come home because he got he has he has a uh a name, and he'll come home and he'll be in a position to be able to make that money back. Right back. But I'm giving everything up. I got to go. I'm not trying to sit here. Do the feds really take stuff like that and be like, all right, take it into consideration that you want to give up so much to for your freedom?

SPEAKER_09 52:18

No, no, and then let you go? Yeah. No, no, no. They either gonna give you a bond or not. They ain't gonna sit there and be like, man, he just flashed 10 million in front of us. Let's go ahead and get the nah. Feds work with a whole different tune, man. So they don't care about stuff like that. Nah, they don't care about none of that. That's why they're gonna give you the bell. They don't care about your money, they don't care about them lawyers you're coming in there with, uh none of that. They play by their own rules. Everything is their own shit. So what would make them want to wanna do? I mean, what he just Who was he offering that to, though? I don't know who he was offering. Uh you you you said you seen it, I ain't see it. I saw somebody, yeah. Yeah, so you know, if he did, they probably told his lawyer to, you know, go ahead and form the I don't know. If you give him a bond or something, he's trying to work it out. He just trying to work it out, shooting in the he's shooting in the dark.

SPEAKER_02 53:08

Hmm.

SPEAKER_08 53:10

Wow. He like, man, take this, whatever. This is what I got. Take this five million, let me get out of it. Because jail's a hardship. He's just sitting around the same people every day, same cell, probably same food every day. Seeing dudes go to trial and get roofed. Every day. How what does that do to you? Like, you see somebody somebody go to go to trial and come back, and they got, yeah, I got 650 months. Yeah, that put you in a depression.

SPEAKER_09 53:32

Especially if you're seeing a whole bunch of it running rampant, like, damn. Cause now you're thinking about yourself, well, shit, when I go, shit, I might might come back with that same goddamn verdict. Like a dead stand. Like you ain't seeing nobody come back, like every 10 people you see go to court, nine of them coming back losing. You like, damn. The odd, the odds, it's like this shit ain't stacking up right. So can you imagine then you in there fighting your case? They telling you, look, the lawyer telling you, like, yeah, Tophy, they try and give you 120 to 180 months. And you seeing that they can do it because they giving a bunch of people that's going to court before you that time. That's a real, that's that's discouraging.

SPEAKER_08 54:09

Does that change your mind state and want you to, you know, take a deal? We see so many losses coming in here. Well, yeah, that he got he got he got 360 months, he got 180 months, they gave him 500 months, 400 months, you know what I'm saying? They gave him life over here.

SPEAKER_09 54:25

It can, it, it, it can. It can. It can change your mind to make you be like, damn, hold up. This do you think it's designed to do that? They put you on a block of people that they see doing those types of things? No, they don't think it's, I don't know. I ain't that's a conspiracy theory. Um they just in there cooking niggas. If it's designed to do that, would they they would they would they want you to cop out? Man, they in there, they ain't they ain't even tripping about how you feel or what is the man, we cooking, we cooking y'all in here. You go in them feds, man. Nine times of ten, you're gonna do some time, man. You gonna do some time, man. When they they ain't charging you, and it's very like less likely that a person is beating the feds. But how many people you seen beat the feds after been being charged? Yeah, I mean, like all the federal cases you heard, you don't hear about them. Yeah, such as them beat the case, they all coming home. Shit, when? I mean, the feds ain't playing no games with these people, man. People look at Puff and like Puff made it out good. But he but that's a whole nother conversation. He did. He could have got cooked, but that wasn't it was no violence in intact in that case. Yeah, but still, with the charges he had, the ones that they let him off of, yeah, they could have cooked Puff of that if he'd have got uh film guilty of that. They just let him let him, you know, get filmed guilty of a lesser charge. But them other charges and all that, yeah, taking girls across state line and having too much fun over there, man, they was knocked puffy head off his shoulders. So he did make out. He made out extraordinary for the charges that he had and got really uh uh acquitted of. If you was Lil Durk and Lil Durk's corner, would you tell him take a take a deal? Yeah, if they try and give him life, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I'd be in like if I was Lil Dirk Pop and I was Abdul Haq, and Abdul Haq did a lot of time in the penitentiary, so he he he he's of the same mind like me. My thing is I'll be looking at the the you know the findings of the case and what they got, because I know you probably hands on with Dirk lawyer to see what's going on with his son and all that. But I would definitely come to him and be like, yo, man, little man, you you you're such and such age. But this is the way I'm thinking, I'm this way I'm thinking, and I'm not saying it's right, but this is just my thinking. I've been in there. If I had a son that was how old is dirt about he ain't 30 yet, is he? I think he's 28, 29. Yeah, and he in there with murder for hire and all that, these life joins, and they came popped up with a 25-year deal. Yeah, man, I'm coming right to the day. Like, boy, you got about three. Well, he got about what, three in? All right, but yeah, he's still young. You got three in out of out of out of 20 uh out of 25 years, you do about nailing the they did they're changing the guideline ranges, they're changing all the sitting so everything is working out in your favor. You could earn up more good time a year and all that. Out of 25 years, you'd do about 19. Then he got four in on it. Or be 50 when he gets out.

SPEAKER_08 57:12

Well, shh, it's better than life. It's better than life. But that's probably how you're thinking, too, though. He's probably like, I'm about to be if they offer that that 25, I'm gonna be 50 when I get out.

SPEAKER_09 57:21

Yeah, but it better be 50 when you get out or get out when you did. Which one are you picking? The 50 year olds coming out of there looking like 25 years olds. Yeah, I probably would take it. Especially if I knew I did something and I and I and they had me by the balls per se. I I'm just a convict. I'm I'm a person that did something, so you probably gotta ask a person that never did time and all that and know how this shit go. They might be like, no, I'm going to trial. Fuck all that, this and that, and this and that. Uh I can't, I can't. I I know when to fold them and when to hold them, man.

SPEAKER_08 57:54

Lil Dirk got so many charges against him. They put like, what is it? Was it 10 charges, something like that?

SPEAKER_09 57:59

Yeah, something like that. He got something crazy in the city.

SPEAKER_08 58:01

Like eight, eight or ten charges is a believe. It could be more. But they got all the charges against him, right?

SPEAKER_09 58:06

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_08 58:07

And they just start, you know, compounding them charges to try to make something stick. Something is gonna catch you on something. And he has a prior record, right? Oh, you do? Yeah. Oh so that's gonna be an enhancement to whatever he gets.

SPEAKER_09 58:23

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Upon losing trial, yeah. Yeah, yeah. If he loses, you know, Charlotte make it out. But my thing is, I would be in there trying to coach him for a deal, man. I would be paying them dudes like, because I'm not saying he can't beat the case. Burde for hire. Yeah, I'm not saying he can't beat the case. He could because, you know, he can beat the case. I don't, you know what I mean, know with the whole ramifications behind the case or whatnot. People probably just blaming him. Or he may have just did it. I don't know. But I'll be paying that money to them lawyers to give me the best deal possible. But see, but I got a way of thinking because I did time. So I'm gonna think, I'm not gonna think like how you would think. If they like it. Exactly.

SPEAKER_08 59:09

And I'm pretty sure he has too, if he thinking right ahead.

SPEAKER_09 59:11

All right, say, say, say our brother up here. Say our brother. So I they get him in there right now. 25 years, he'd be like, ain't you crazy? I'm not, he's not taking that. He's gonna go, he's gonna be like, Y'all the lunch y'all mind. See, with me, I'm gonna be like, that's it. Come on. Because I know, I know I just sat here and did a thousand years for y'all already. I'm back in here. I know that y'all not playing at all. I know for a fact. The average dude, he comes in there fresh, you know what I mean, wet behind the ears or whatever you may want to call it. I'm going trying, we we fighting. So I get told. That should sound good. We're standing toward like City Hall, all the little saying, ten toes down. Boy, after that shit, they be like, Dang, it'd be a whole new, a whole new world BTA, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:00:01

So listen, you get, you get, you get in these, in these courtrooms, man, in front of these judges. But I'm gonna say this first. So your lawyer, right? Your lawyer, like, I'm gonna do whatever you tell me to do. But the lawyers, I'll be telling my lawyer, look, look, go, see what kind of deal. I need everything on the table. I need all everything. I need I need I need all the deals on the table. I need I need the trial. How you feel about it? I need to know everything so I can weigh my options. Because that deal might be sweet.

SPEAKER_09 1:00:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:00:36

Might be a little down, a little 10 to 15, get your body.

SPEAKER_09 1:00:38

Yeah, the little dub is sweet. Dub, seem like see, but that that's you, because the the spirit you have, you don't want to do it. No. I'm going to do it because I have been in there. I know, and then I know my charges. Murder for hire, that's life. 20 years you gotta kiss everybody goodbye, though. The kids. Well, well, but that's what we do. Girls, but that's what we're doing. We we ain't even talk about that. That's a whole nother, that's a whole nother. I'm gonna get to that when we get into that.

SPEAKER_08 1:01:04

That's what makes the decision hard. What? Because I gotta kiss them goodbye. My kids just must say, my son, 10, I gotta do goodbye. I'm not the dude. No, it's no, it's not. Not for me. See, that's for you. For me. I'm saying how people how you think. I'm I ain't saying I'm talking about how people. But how would you think? Would you say that this should be hard for you? If I know I did it, yeah. And I know I if I know if I found get that, I'm gonna do like 80 years. Yeah. I'm I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna bite that in the bullet now on duty. Yeah, I'm gonna take, I'm gonna take my chances and take that, take that dove. Give it to me. Yeah. Especially if I know I did it, give me that 20 years. Yeah. Cause you see, we see it so many times. We just saw something today. We saw the boy, what's the rap boy? Cash, what's the name boy name? Cash flow, whatever the name is.

SPEAKER_09 1:01:43

Well, the one we just got 70 years, something like that. They told him to take 25 years. 25, he ain't take it. You see uh queso. Yeah. 25 years, he ain't take it. Life. List goes on and on and on. Yeah, we can talk about it till our face falls out. Life. Nine times out of ten, when they coming at you with a deal, it's not because they don't have a they have a weak case. And that's what a lot of people get miscrew. Oh, he came at me with five years. I could beat this joint. They ain't got nothing. That's why he wanted me to bite. No, they ain't feel like just going through the dumb shit. They know you know you did it. So they try and give you your way out. And then you play.

SPEAKER_08 1:02:18

I got a homie that um got life. He um they offered him a deal for murder. I think it was like a 10 to 15. I mean 10 to 15. Something like that. Something was something I don't want to say light, but was something like that. Like it was something light that they offered him. He ain't take it, they gave him a will. Yeah.

unknown 1:02:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:02:39

That's okay. And now, and now he's saying, damn. Now so he's thinking now, I'm trying to get a date. They give me, they give me 20 years, I'm taking that.

SPEAKER_09 1:02:50

And you could have been did it.

SPEAKER_08 1:02:52

Cause they ain't know no better.

SPEAKER_09 1:02:53

That's what I say. A lot the I that's why I say I know. I got the Laura, I got you know, oh you think, yeah, I got the Lord. 70, 80 grand. Man, that shit don't mean nothing. Nah. It's about whoever tells the best story that day. That's it. Your ass is to the good if they vote bad for you.

SPEAKER_08 1:03:13

Yeah. That's just so unfortunate because, man, once you get man, once you get it, once you get once them, once you lose that case, once you lose that at the mercy of the of the courts, and the judge is gonna say, what? I I gotta give you the guidelines. I can't go, I can't go beneath this, I can't go under this. I gotta give you the guidelines. And then in the feds, you have enhancements. Now, is there enhancements in the state too? Um, I'm not really sure.

SPEAKER_09 1:03:43

I don't want to really, I'm not sure. I I I can't say it is because I did all my time in the feds. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah, I don't I don't know if it is. I'm not gonna say it is and it ain't, and it I'm not gonna say it ain't and it is, but I don't know. But I just know the feds is playing by a whole nother set of rules.

SPEAKER_08 1:03:59

Yeah, and then you get up in there, man, and it's like um They gave me a life sentence. I got a life in jail. So that leads it leads me to the other question, man. A lot of this stuff stems from the streets. Mm-hmm. It ain't worth it. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_09 1:04:19

See what Newski said up here, he said. Ain't worth it. I don't know how many times we gotta say it till we blue in the face, but one thing about it, if you don't listen to us and you continue on, I'm not saying everybody is doing it, but if you is doing it and the streets is, you know, your your companion and your friend, you will see how good of a friend that the streets is to you. You will see, you will not be looked over, you will not be exempt to it. You will see what type of friend the streets is. You will see.

SPEAKER_08 1:04:46

The streets do not love you back. The streets can care less about you. Next man, next man up, you go to jail, next man up. You see what happened? What the boys got indicted down here?

SPEAKER_06 1:05:00

Oh, uh.

SPEAKER_08 1:05:01

They back on the block again.

SPEAKER_09 1:05:03

Next man up? Yeah, that's it. Next man up. Next man up. And then, like I said, I don't sit up here and say, you know, what they're doing is wrong, but I don't knock what nobody doing. We ain't up here trying to put the spotlight on other people out there breaking law or whatever. We know as human beings and being from Philadelphia that people is going to do it. So we have to bring you the awareness message of if you don't get killed first, this right here is definitely promised in your future. So please beware of the penitentiaries, man.

SPEAKER_08 1:05:36

It's a young guy we know, man, who got she got she got arrested for multiple murders, right? And we sit back and we l we talk about the time that you're gonna spend fighting multiple murders, right? Two years for one, two years for the other. And if you lose one, you gotta go upstate, come back down and fight the other. And then you might get life on that one. If you got life on that one, do you take the deal on the other one?

SPEAKER_09 1:06:07

No, you ain't taking no deal because if you got life, that means you went to trial. You gonna lose you once you take a deal, there's no get back. You give up all your remedies.

SPEAKER_08 1:06:16

But I'm saying they give you a deal of a dub on the other life. They gave queso a d a deal. But I got life already? But now, say I get that life back on the other one. Alright, well, yeah, well, yeah. Well then if it's something like that, yeah. But I could try to get his life back. Yeah. But queso gotta go through it's a lot. He's gonna have to do it. Yeah, that's equal. Yeah. But my thing is you might be able to tell somebody, yo, give me if you know you did them, and you got witnesses that you know that people they got they got a credible witness. Like say, say me, I know me and you did something, right? And me and you did it. And you testifying against me. I'm gonna never testify against you. But if you testify against me, right? And then um you testifying against me, right? And I and I know we did it together. And they tell me that you what you you the you the witness.

SPEAKER_09 1:07:11

I'm gonna take a deal. Yeah, because nine times ten, you ain't gonna I know everything about you. Why would you go in there and fight that? You'll be a damn fool. And they say I'm up here on the stand.

SPEAKER_08 1:07:22

Not credible as a witness, and they'll try to try to make you look like you're a liar.

SPEAKER_09 1:07:27

Yeah, but you it's just too much stuff that I may know. Like when people have cases like that, and one of your best friends is getting up there, yeah, you got to get out the way. You gotta get when I say get out the way, meaning go ahead and take you a plea deal, man. Because it's not gonna end well.

SPEAKER_08 1:07:41

It's not. What about surprise witnesses? Do they gotta where do they do that in the festival? Or yeah, or they gotta tell you in your discovery.

SPEAKER_09 1:07:48

Oh, you gotta you got you gotta get my jinx material. My jinx material was my discovery, so it won't be nobody that popped up in court today that I didn't know that was coming. Yes, then.

SPEAKER_08 1:07:57

Oh, so they tell you who we're gonna court. But I thought when with um when you were to trial with Dayday, they switched to uh they stopped using Dayday. Yeah, they stopped using it. But did they tell you that wasn't using him? They told you that wasn't using it.

SPEAKER_09 1:08:06

Yeah, yeah, they just they'll let you know the government will let you know everybody that they're gonna be putting on the same and stuff like that. Yeah. And they'll let you know who ain't coming to this trial and who's gonna be on this trial. Yeah, you're gonna have, oh, that's in your jinx material. How'd you feel when you got a prepared that wasn't Day Day wasn't gonna be on there no more? I wasn't back on there uh again. Oh, that was just true. Yeah, he went back by itself. Oh, wow. So they already found you guilty. Yeah, uh, but I get they found me not guilty. They had a partial verdict. My case was a partial verdict. They came back and couldn't decide on whether to convict me or not for the conspiracy. They like, damn, this man only been home three months of this conspiracy that y'all say y'all been watching for five years. What the fuck did he do? So they didn't know how to judge with the conspiracy. So I went back in there, they threw it out. They threw out my conspiracy and charged me with the overall acts. They caught me with the stuff in the house, being a part of. Then they gave me a relevant kind of. They gave me, all right, yeah, he's not part of this whole massive five-year conspiracy, but he was a part of it for just this three months. So they hit you with whatever, they tallied it up for the three months. Yeah, for the three months. Which was man, the feds is a bad thing. They said like one brick worth for 300,000. Exactly. And then they used that. What they did was they said I was out there selling about uh uh 2,000 to 15, 2,000 to 2,500 a night. They added that up in crack terms and then added that up for 90 days, and it came back to like a little less than a brick. Like the number they came with was like 948 grams that I was being charged with. This ghost dope now. This man was in here and saying, yeah, he made about 2,500 a night on the shift. You ain't you this is just a person saying I did that, not y'all came and apprehended me with. What the Crocks said that? Yeah. Yeah, Croc was coming in there talking about what we did on the shifts and this and that, this and that, yeah. So they went, they put it all together. What were you saying when you seen Crock on the stand? Nothing. I was just I was already shit. Niggas was coming in there so much that I was numb to it. Like, all right, in the next step, I'm just waiting on who next. Yeah. Dang, but Crock is from the daggone hood. Yeah, he from the from the block. Yeah, but we knew Black Crock was going bad anyway, though. He disappeared, yeah. Not only did we we we caught we we we we we we clean, you know, in in FDC, you know, you could take the water out your toilet and you could talk to other people on floor, different floors in FDC through the toilet. So, you know, some dudes will use like you know, a paper towel, you know how you got the little core thing in it. Once it's done is the cone. Yeah, and niggas will be saving them joints up and putting them in the toilets and be talking to them. And so I could talk to a nigga upstairs or either downstairs underneath me. And we was talking to Croc. Croc was upstairs over top of us. Like, yo, what's up, man? You know, number one thing is you know, you know your personnel, you know who you're like, friends know their friends' conditions. Like, we know each other's conditions. Like, you might know, damn man, black ain't got it, man. So if I invite him to this, I might I got to get his hand because I know he broke. You know your friend's personal information. This is your friend. And I say that to say he ain't got nothing. He ain't had nobody looking out for him, sending me money on his books. Not to say that anybody is better than him because of that. No, I'm just pointing out a fact. So we knew his condition. Uh, he was fucked up. So, you know, the homie talks to him to bow, like, yo, what's up, man? Yo, I'm about to get my girl to see you some money and selling your books, you know. He like, no, I'm good. Who you know in jail that's turning down a check? 50, 40, a being today, commissary account. Who you know in jail telling a mother going phone right now. I'm about to, yo, wish your joint. I'm about to have my girl send that. No, I'm good. That was a red flag. You said he told you that. Yeah, he said he said he was good. He didn't tell me that, he told the homie that. Then because he was telling him through the bowl, like, yo, what's up, man? I'm about to put some money on your books. He like, no, it's cool. Cool? You ain't got nothing in that locker up there. And you are? So this is an indicator. This we had signs that he was gonna do that before he actually.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:12:04

Yeah. And lo and behold, he told.

unknown 1:12:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:10

What else he was saying up there?

SPEAKER_09 1:12:11

What you mean? What else he was saying?

SPEAKER_08 1:12:12

What all he was saying? Well, they said he told on he told on me, too. He said he started talking about me, me up there.

SPEAKER_09 1:12:19

Oh, oh, oh, yeah. Oh, he's talking about oh, yeah, yeah. He just was, he just was basically saying the where everything was going. Yeah, like how we grew up and who was destined to be this, and niggas been selling coke for them since the beginning of the time, and you know, they had him out there. It was just a bunch of collaborating their story. They weren't, yeah, I mean, a bunch of whole bunch of, yeah, I mean, crazy telling. How much time he got, like 10? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know how much time they gave him. I know he was facing career criminal, so he was facing a lot of time, but they didn't give him a lot of time due to his participant in cooperation. You know what I'm saying? So he cooperated in uh in a great fashion for them, and they gave him a damn with departure. Gave him some time off. He he went right in, came right home. What's a downward departure? What is that? A damn with departure is a is a sentence with something that comes underneath your sentencing because you gave him some intel. A damn with departure is like the only way you kind of come underneath your guidelines is if you assisted. There's no, you got your guidelines, your top and your low end. You're not going over this top, and then you're not coming underneath this. You're in this bracket. So you're either gonna get the low, top, in between, halfway up, anywhere between these two. In order for you to breach this and go underneath it, you have to give up some information. Wow, and his celly, his celly probably was telling too. Who? Oh, I don't know. I don't know about all that. I don't even know.

SPEAKER_08 1:13:44

How did you know he how did y'all know he was on top of y'all on the cell?

SPEAKER_09 1:13:46

Uh somebody probably told us on a visit or something like that, like, yo, crock up on the block with me. Like, yeah, well, send this nigga to the bowl, tell him to come and sell such and such and get on that bowl. Then you know it's easy to find out. So, you know, niggas go on visits. I might see you, you upstairs, yo, ain't this ball on your case up on my block? Yeah, tell that nigga to come to sell such and such in the toilet. So it's easy to, you know, I mean, motherfucker might send you back up a yeah, I mean, a note from the visiting room. Niggas is coming back from court. So it's easy to know who won for who floors. You know what I'm saying? Like we all go to court today. Everybody from every floor going to court. So I might need to send you a message. You up on five south. I sent you a message. Yo, man, so tell Flam Flam to come such and such and such and such. You know what I mean? So, yeah, I mean, it's easy to, you know. What if he say I ain't coming to that bowl? All right, well then what the hell are you gonna do? Nothing. He ain't coming to bowl. I give you more clarity on the situation.

SPEAKER_08 1:14:37

Man, stay out of jail, man. Stay out of jail. Once again, y'all don't forget, y'all. We also offer an opportunity for you to come up here and promote your business free of charge. It's free. Come up here, promote your business, hit us up uh at tellsfromjails at gmail.com. That's tellsfromjails at gmail.com. Hit us up uh or hit us up on Instagram as well. We let you come up here and talk about your business. Now, um, the bold talk, right? The bull talk. I heard sometimes somebody said they had a wire. What's that? I think it was like uh somebody had like a wire, it had the toilet wired or something like that, or the cell wired. And somebody, I think it was cabani savage.

SPEAKER_09 1:15:15

Yeah, yeah, they put like microphones aside the vent.

SPEAKER_08 1:15:19

Yeah. And they and they and they able to wow. So you're talking to people in between the cell, then they use they use that against you ultimately.

SPEAKER_09 1:15:26

So yeah. It's a recording. You and there, if you're in there running your mouth about certain shit, that yeah, goddamn right. You said it yourself. This is what you said on such and such date.

SPEAKER_08 1:15:36

Yeah. Wow. Yeah, man. So listen, y'all stay free, man. While you out here, man, you have the opportunity to, you know, um make the right decision in your life. And you out here, you have your freedom. And you have your kids, man. You gotta talk to your children, man. Uh, we talked, we saw us in the day about a 15-year-old who tried to kill a 14-year-old on the school bus. Y'all probably it happened months ago, but y'all probably already saw this. But we was just talking about what he said, Black was saying, yo, where the parents at? A 15-year-old, he tried, he put the gun to his head and pulled a trigger three times this head and then didn't go off. Mm-hmm. Where is where's the parents at? Who who who kids are out here doing this type stuff? You say who kids are out here doing this stuff. Where the parents, where the parents for kids for the people who have kids are here that's doing this? Where the parents at? That's what I'm saying. Like you said, we spoke about that, man. You know, hands and feet on my son doing see the eye moving like that.

SPEAKER_09 1:16:33

He out here moving like that. But minds, I'm only I don't even talk about how I'm gonna raise minds. My son out here moving like that. It ain't no gonna be no, we just having a little sideboard, nah. I'm yeah. Mm-mm. Why is you you 15 years old, like with the girl? Another thing with the girl, like that comes from the upbringing, man. All that comes from the upbringing, man. It's it's like you can fault the kids because they know right from wrong, but when they're not corrected in their life journeys and let to their own devices, it gets out of hand, bro. You gotta correct them. That's what growing up in a child is about. They don't know the way. So they do things and you gotta correct it. This is how you raise a child. You correct them when they're wrong. And if you letting that go unchecked, they not knowing wrong from right. Like you got that girl stomping a 75-year-old woman. That girl don't think that wasn't cool. She, uh order for her to carry that out, I couldn't do that because my heart, I'd be like, I'm not beating this old lady, man. Because I got a heart. These motherfuckers ain't got no hearts, man. They ain't got no heart. I ain't talking about having heart to go out there and fighting. No, I got compassion.

SPEAKER_08 1:17:40

I'm a human being. You ever noticed, like, you ever seen people, like certain people like we see in the hood? Like just me, for example. I knew something was gonna. I I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't know. I'm just saying, I always thought that something either this boy was gonna be in jail for the rest of his life or somebody was gonna do something to him. Did you feel the same way about me? Or certain or certain people that you see, you'd be like young boys or young girls, you'd be like, this is something, man. They're all getting together, man. It's gonna be a bad turnout for them. And how many times you be right about people like that? Damn near all the time. You just see it, like, what the heck?

SPEAKER_09 1:18:16

This person, why would you? Yeah, because you see, you see the whole plate that a lot of these niggas is on. Like, say it ain't hard, man, to spot bullshit, man. You see bullshit, like, whoa. I got a couple guys that I be around, like, but I don't intentionally be around them, but when I see them, I'll be like, oh yeah, let me go ahead and start making my exit. This nigga coming up now. Like you, like you, motherfucker, ain't naive and dumb. You know what I mean? Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:41

It's time to make my exit. Yeah, man. It's over with. Like the uh, you know, the like the what's that what's that because I forget the game of that movie, but sometimes you just recognize and people, people just on a path of trouble. And are you if you see, if if you see your your uh your kid, because a lot of times parents now want their kids hanging around bad kids. If you see your son hanging with some young boys, he should be hanging with. Well, what I'm doing. What you doing, what you're saying to him.

SPEAKER_09 1:19:09

No, but what's that? I don't like that. I don't like that. Like you're talking about sitting around some young boys. Like, he they they kids.

SPEAKER_08 1:19:15

But see, but I'm saying this kid that he's with is bad. How many kids you've seen go to jail because of their friend? Who said, let's go rob a bank, let's go rob a store.

SPEAKER_09 1:19:22

Yeah, see, but I want to install in my kid. I'm not gonna tell him, yo, you can't hang with him. Because this might be his friend. Okay. They might be good friends. Okay. Okay, then your friend just wants some wild shit. Now that comes to you as a parent. How much control and how much is your son listening to you? Okay. Because that's like boys in the hood. But hold up, hold up. That's like boys in the hood. When, when, when, when, when, when uh uh Cuban Gooden Jr., he listened to his dad. He listened to it, he got out that car. Yeah. His dad ain't telling him, don't go hang with him. He knew that was his friends. No, he went with the thought that I raised him from a little boy to this teenage to this little young man. And I instilled principle, and it worked. He sat there playing with them marbles, them. No, but that's it's a movie, but it's about some real life shit. But that's real.

SPEAKER_08 1:20:12

You got the indictment that kids saying let me out. There's too many kids upstairs right now. No, but it's a lot of them that did, though.

SPEAKER_09 1:20:19

I guarantee you. It's a lot of motherfuckers. You think the numbers higher for kids who didn't get out of the car? No, no, it ain't higher, but it's they out there. Yeah, but they out there. I mean, we ain't gonna make it like they ain't out there. It's a lot of niggas let me out.

SPEAKER_08 1:20:31

What y'all think? We're gonna tell, we're gonna we're gonna take some some calls. If your kid hanging around the hanging around a kid, they shouldn't hang around. You see a kid see bad signs from this kid, whether it's male or female, are y'all gonna tell your kid to stop hanging around this person? Are y'all gonna, you know, tell your kid they shouldn't be dealing with this type this person? For me, I'm telling my kid, like, no, you shouldn't be hanging with him or her. If this girl is, she could be a little, uh, a low fast little girl. She out here, you know, humping out of every pants. Like, you let your daughter hang with her?

SPEAKER_09 1:21:03

I'm saying, like, I can't judge, I can't, I'm not picking my daughter friends or my son's friends. Well, you should. You know what I mean? Like, like then you then you might as well not have no damn kids, bro. Nah, you got like you over here trying to puppet master them. No, it's not. No, then I'm like, I want you to see if your work been good at like like a person can step out with somebody as long as you keep your integrity and your dignity with yourself, you don't have to be doing that, man. Now, if they want to branch off and go to an activity that's wild, no, you can't go to that, cuz. No, but trying to go to this. No, but if they out basketball co ahead, that's your friend.

SPEAKER_08 1:21:36

But I'm saying if a kid, because think about it, how many people who have lost their child behind them hanging them around? Yes, I know all that, but I'm not I'm just not doing.

SPEAKER_09 1:21:44

I'm not I'm not telling my kid who they can't who they can't hear. I respect your response. Yeah, man. I I'm trusting my father in the ability to make sure my kid know how to make the right uh uh call the time.

SPEAKER_08 1:21:56

Take this call. Tell us from the jails we're speaking with.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:01

Yes, yes, we're what's up, man.

SPEAKER_08 1:22:04

Shout out to North Philly, what's up with you, man?

SPEAKER_06 1:22:06

Hold on, John. Hey, I just got a quick job. You gonna be that 10 feet? I mean, I'm gonna be left with the young man.

SPEAKER_08 1:22:35

Yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:04

You make the right decision, make the right decision as well. I I I agree, I think we were black for certain things. But it's a rarity of making the right decision, especially when we don't have our father. Like I don't, like y'all do it. I mean, your father is gonna keep that black, you know, your situation. And you can get crunchy for you are if you ain't hanging around the right people.

SPEAKER_08 1:23:25

Exactly. So for me, I I totally agree. I'm telling my kid, yo, you better not be hanging around them. I'm quick to do that. Because at the end of the day, they they go they they're gonna they're gonna influence you, they're gonna they're gonna have a cause kids gonna have a stronger influence over your child than you. Cause they may like girls listen to listen to their friends more than boys do to listen to listen to their friends more than more than listen to their parents a lot of times, man. So you gotta be real, real careful. Choose your kids' friends before they can choose them for themselves.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:53

Right. Black, what's your rebuttal, Black?

SPEAKER_09 1:23:55

No, I don't got no rebuttal. Uh you know, I'm I'm on what I'm on y'all on your what y'all on. Okay. All right, man. Thanks for calling in, man.

SPEAKER_08 1:24:02

Enjoy your night, bro.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:03

Yeah, man. For sure. Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_08 1:24:06

Yeah, because that this is this is this is a crazy topic because, you know, what y'all think? You got a kid, you see a kid hanging around, whether male or female hanging around a child, another child, who y'all see as a problem child, who's causing, you know, problems in the neighborhood. You know, this person, you know, may do so, she may do so many, there might be a girl. Like I said, she could be fast. She's wearing the short shorts and you know, got revealing her body out here, and she's doing so are you letting your daughter hang around that per type of person? You know what I mean? For me, like I said, I'm telling my kid, like, yo, you know, you know, nah, can't hang with that person.

SPEAKER_09 1:24:41

And I'm not saying that's wrong. I'm not saying that's wrong at all, but I ain't I mean, I I want my I want my kids to be able to make their own decisions. You know what I'm saying? Like, like, and I'm not talking about big decisions, so I'm like, come on, man, but you know to choose between right and wrong.

SPEAKER_08 1:24:57

Not really. Not a kid. Kids don't really know, young. Kids don't know. How many times mother mothers, mothers or parents, man, seen their kid go out the door and hang around the wrong kids and then they got that call, whether they arrested or they dead. Yeah. So I'm taking my chances trying to tell them don't don't don't do it.

SPEAKER_09 1:25:17

Don't hang with that person, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:25:18

Yeah. It's because it's it's it's it's a less chance for something to happen. You can't hang around them. Now they sneak, they still sneak and go hang with the kid, that's on them. But if I tell them, like, no, I don't want you to hang with that person, I'm I'm I'm gonna do that. I don't care how nobody, because it's about me trying to save my child the best I can. But kids, like I said, they're gonna do what they want to do. Outside of around you, my dad's telling me I'm hanging around on the mountain. Like, yo, yo. But I still hung on the mount. I did it, I just sneaky, yo, yo, yo, yeah, everybody looking out for my dad. Yo, your yo, your pop coming up. Your pop right there. I'm breaking through the lot so he don't see me, you know, all that still trying to hang around. Ultimately, what? I could have lost my life because you know I could have been in jail for 20 plus years because I didn't listen to listen to my pop. But I didn't it didn't happen, but I lost a lot. So what y'all think, man? 215-316-4492. 215-316-4492. What y'all think, man? Talk to us, man.

SPEAKER_09 1:26:20

Yeah, that's just a uh that's just a bad drum, man, you know, all the way around the board, man. And I like I say, I take your I take your opinion on this topic, man, wholeheartedly.

SPEAKER_08 1:26:30

Alright, man, this is it, because sometimes like we place emphasis, right, on stuff. Right? You are a heterosexual man, right? Right. If your kid was hanging around, if someone was hanging around with a homo home a homo homosexual, a full-blown homosexual. Would you what would you say to that?

SPEAKER_09 1:26:54

And this was his friend?

SPEAKER_08 1:26:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:26:56

So you so this this this this is this is just I can't I can't stop him from who his friends is, man, but I would give him all the, you know, because I'm not gonna would you tell him no hanging with this person or something? No, no, no, I I I wouldn't. If this is his friend, I can't tell him to not hang around him because of his sexual preference. I'm not gonna go off and do that. Okay. Because there's a lot of people that has that sexual sexual preference nowadays, and there's a lot of people coming out with it, and that's cool. That's that's them people, you know, regardless of what we stand for, we're heterosexual. But I'm not gonna say, yo, you can't be around him because of it. Because now we'll be like, why that? I got a nephew that's uh um No no, but then we say why, then what you say to him?

SPEAKER_08 1:27:38

Because he can influence him to be something like that.

SPEAKER_09 1:27:41

I mean, because No, no, no, he can't influence him to suck no chumpy, he can't do that. You never know. No, no, no, no. That that that comes from you now. Your parents. No, it don't. Yes, it do. You never know. I'm talking about the decision that he makes after he tries to get influencing on being invited to some head is from you. No, it's not. Yes, I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_08 1:28:00

You allow him to be in that place. He could be influenced. No, I don't. You don't think so? Nah. I'm just not telling me. It's like it's like he went around here and smoked smoking weed. Eventually, he's gonna be smoking weed. You know what I'm saying? Yo, man, you come on man. No, no, I know a lot of people know I'm cool, cuz. No, not for you. I everybody I know that was around weed smoked it. Not me. Tell us with jealous who he's speaking with. Tell us with jealous who he's speaking with.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:26

Speaking with Killer from Maryland.

SPEAKER_08 1:28:28

What's up? Killer from Maryland, what's going on, man? Shout out to Merlin.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:31

What's going on?

SPEAKER_08 1:28:31

Nothing much, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:32

I just wanted to say uh I feel like a kid's influence would come from anywhere for what you know. It's not Mortal, the people you hang around all the time. Because like, I grew up in two different environments where it was like the suburban area, but then it was also like the hood. And being in both, I seem like you don't really have to be around nobody or see nothing anybody there to make a bad decision. Like, I knew kids that it was like mortal, they can get influence over social media, they live in a suburb, free life. All their friends don't own that. But then next thing you know, he's crashing out, he's doing everything that he's not supposed to be.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:07

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:08

Like, I feel like it's more so a person's mindset will help them find anything that they're looking to do. And when you're young, you're impressionable. So it's like you go watch a music video, see people talking about killing shoes and telling drugs going all that. You've never seen it, never been about it, never been around it. But it's like you might find yourself in an alley just because you're making your own decisions, you know. So I just wanted to say that. You know, I'm tuning in every day.

SPEAKER_08 1:29:34

All right, thanks, man. Appreciate that. Shout out to Merlin, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:36

Y'all be safe.

SPEAKER_08 1:29:37

Me too.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:44

Yo, so it's just like there's certain things, man. I've been telling you, man. Kids can be influenced by the like heavily influenced by the kids by the by the by their friends.

SPEAKER_08 1:29:53

Companionship is everything, man, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_09 1:29:57

Companionship is everything, man. I want to get a shout out. Uh, thanks for the donation, Mr. Sandman, 8996. He said, uh, I think you have to monitor their friends. What about shootings and innocent bystanders?

SPEAKER_08 1:30:11

Yeah, all that, man. Because, like you said, a shooting could happen and your kid could be hanging on the car. How many times have we seen was uh uh Kenny? Mm-hmm. Kenny just lived on the block. He got shot that day when he went rock got killed, right? He wasn't selling no, he was hanging around. Yeah, yeah. He was just hanging around. He could have lost his life, he got shot. So therefore, that's an example of he could have died that day. But and this, I'm pretty sure his mom and his dad was probably telling him no, don't be hanging around there on the mountain, all that. What what happened after he got shot? You ain't see he wasn't hanging on that coin, wasn't hanging around there no more.

SPEAKER_09 1:30:48

No, that that just fired his ass up. He said, Yup, y'all ain't lied about that one.

SPEAKER_07 1:30:53

Child of the kitty, man. Child of the kitty. Yeah, but but you see, no, but you know, like these things happen. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_08 1:31:01

People think about the people who get who get shot and don't. How many people had innocent kids that got shot? It was kids in the car that got killed. These kids got killed killed coming from a game or something like that. Innocent kids. Shot the car up, hit, hit, hit innocent people, girls, and everything. Your daughter may have uh sometimes people get sometimes people have daughters who have boyfriends, boyfriend into all kinds of stuff. And then what happened? He he beef with somebody somebody shoot the car out while he's in there. Mm-hmm. This is the effect. You tell you tell your daughter, like, yo, you can't be messing with him. She's gonna do what she wants to do at the end of the day, but you tell her don't you mess with him? What about the boys who just got sentenced for the Fulio murder? Oh, yeah. Well, what about him? The girl that was with him, she she put uh played out to what I think manslaughter? I don't know, but she played out though. But she was influenced by a dude, she she was trying to be such a rider for the dude that she was messing with, ended up losing her life, her life could be lost. Because maybe her parents didn't tell her, like, or maybe they did. Because you can sense something. Like you meet, you meet certain certain young boy, you talk to them, man. Where you work at? What you got going on? They may not have a job, but you see, they looking nice, got new sneaks, new shoes, but you ain't got no job. Got a car. How you get that car? These questions you gotta ask if you're a parent. People be scared to ask questions. Oh, you say the parents be scared to ask questions? Yeah, sometimes. I'm asking questions. Anybody want to marry my daughter? I need to see pay stubs, I need to see bank account, I need to see everything. I need to make sure that you all the way right. I ain't just passing my daughter off to nobody. Like, I need to see those things. I'm not even going to dodge that. Okay, I respect it. I respect it. That's all you do. You just let her just go ahead and he's looking at the outside, the outer shell of this boy.

SPEAKER_09 1:32:44

You need to see bank stubs, bro. Yeah, I'm not. If I was marrying your daughter and I came there, man, and to see you and was with her, I would be highly offended. I gotta make sure that you got you take away. How would you even ask me that? Like, yo, you got bank stubs? Yeah. I'm trying to rumble something after that. I'm gonna be telling her, like, yo, what's up with your drawing ass pop? Ask me about these stubs. Yeah, okay. You ain't gonna be asking me about no damn stubs. You think this bitch did real right? Yo.

SPEAKER_07 1:33:13

Tell us for the jails who we speaking with.

SPEAKER_08 1:33:18

Yeah, I'm like smiling, marrying my daughter. You want to come be my daughter? I gotta see, I gotta see what you got going on, man. I need to see like the type of person I'm dealing with, man. And I need to hang with you for a couple days. And I'm gonna tell you, look, I'm gonna get with the young boy. I'm like, yo, call your closest companion around. Cause whoever is closest companion is that's who he is. I'm telling you. He pulls up, this boy will pull up, whoever, whoever you're. I'm telling you, I'm gonna get with him. Like, yo, yo, call your closest, who you hang with, man. You be with.

SPEAKER_09 1:33:43

Nah, I don't believe that saying anything.

SPEAKER_08 1:33:46

I do. Don't, man. Because you you can't hang around somebody without getting some of the dirt on you, man. And then you go, you're gonna you're gonna do it. Somebody's gonna influence you. You could be just riding on the street, tell us from the jails who you're speaking with.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:58

It's Mark. What's up, Pete? You crazy, boy. What's up, Mark? A man can be influenced and sucking Trump, and you out of pocket, man.

SPEAKER_09 1:34:06

No, that's him. That's black. No, that's what you say. He could be influenced to do that. They could be, you never know, man.

SPEAKER_08 1:34:12

Out of pocket. You never know, man. You never know, man. Because people people people come from different talk, go ahead, Mark. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:20

No, no, no. You what you what I just was saying that you're right though, as far as like the parenting part. Because we all know that the character is a thief. So you when you when you're around or you're around, we steal from that. You steal from that. So it's a reflection of who you are. So you gotta be mindful of who you're hanging around, man. You gotta do it, especially when you got little girls and I actually give my kids an excuse. If they don't want to say, you tell them that your father said you can't be around. Then they blame it on me. That's your excuse. You can't be my grandson, you can't be around him. That's your excuse. You ain't gotta act like you're not cool.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:57

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:58

You away from that. But no, I definitely agree with the peer pressure, the peer pressure too hard to hop out the car. No, I'm gonna try to nip that in the butt. And I agree with black state too. You know, because sometimes you can't, you can't, it's hard to pick those friends, but you gotta find a common medium, you gotta parent.

SPEAKER_08 1:35:15

Right. Right.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:16

But if Flow is the fuck a chumpy though, you out of fire.

SPEAKER_08 1:35:18

No, I ain't say that. He said that I was saying you just never know because like you I'm not trusting my listen, Mark, you ain't trusting your son to hang around something like that. You're not doing it.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:27

I'm not, yeah, be so many things that come with it. I I I don't know. I I'm I'm be honest with you. You can't take a chance. I think you can have better choices.

SPEAKER_08 1:35:35

Yeah, you can't take a chance. You you you can't take that chance. You can't risk that. That's a that's a big risk.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:40

I might have been hanging around dudes that were faggers all their life and not know it. We don't know these days.

SPEAKER_08 1:35:44

I'm talking about full blown. Like he he got.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:46

You playing boy and join?

SPEAKER_08 1:35:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:48

Oh, yeah, no, no, it's because then no, that's not a good look. You like you can respect him, but why aren't you hanging with him? Because who he's hanging with? Why why are you there? Nah.

SPEAKER_08 1:35:59

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:00

Nah, nah. I agree with you on that.

SPEAKER_08 1:36:02

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:03

But influence the sucker chumpy though.

SPEAKER_08 1:36:05

No, he said that. He said that. He said that.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:09

You said that instead of stared at him. And then, man, awkward pause. Like, you out of pocket, man.

SPEAKER_07 1:36:19

Y'all be cool, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:20

It's a pleasure listening to y'all. Y'all take care of it.

SPEAKER_07 1:36:22

For sure, you too.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:23

Keep parenting, though. Keep parenting. These kids, man, they make too many bad decisions, man. And they need to be, they need, they need to help.

SPEAKER_08 1:36:29

Yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:29

They need to help. And keep in mind the character is a thief, man.

SPEAKER_08 1:36:32

Mm-hmm. I agree, man.

SPEAKER_09 1:36:35

Yeah, I want to go back. I want to go back to what you were saying about what you say, you said you'd be like whoever your friend is. And I said I don't agree that.

SPEAKER_08 1:36:43

A lot of times, yeah, your friend can have not all the way, but sometimes your friend can influence you. You might have a friend that influenced you to about to do the right thing. You might have a friend that influenced you to get the other thing.

SPEAKER_09 1:36:51

Yeah, because James Laplain cut in and said, damn, Feek, he said, it depends, Feek, because you he said, cuz black, your closest companion, and y'all nothing alike. Yeah, but he but you you influence me to do some some things I shouldn't. No, I don't. What? I'm not influenced.

SPEAKER_07 1:37:04

You go out here and kill him, I'm influenced you to sell no coat. Some things you influence me to do.

SPEAKER_08 1:37:07

I'm not gonna put it out there, but you might you might influence me to do some stuff like that.

SPEAKER_07 1:37:09

I might that I might not do it.

SPEAKER_08 1:37:11

Like what? I don't know.

SPEAKER_09 1:37:13

No, it ain't nothing. Don't put that on me. You go home to your family after we leave here, man. Yeah, I just don't drink, you don't get high. No, no, but I'm just saying, but I'm saying you ain't dropping a nigga off at the store where drink. Yo, feet run me to the store, right? What store is that? You ain't getting influenced out of nothing. Sometimes I do nothing, y'all. I'm talking about Adeli real fast. That his vehicle ain't going towards it.

SPEAKER_07 1:37:38

But I'm just saying, sometimes you might influence me sometimes. What time I was with you one time, he maybe said curse word.

SPEAKER_09 1:37:44

No, no, no. You was you was probably reading something and got hype and cuss or something.

SPEAKER_07 1:37:47

I'm like, Damn, man. Like I thought spot a lot.

SPEAKER_08 1:37:50

Yeah. Because I've been around you so much. But then again, you can have a good companion that can influence you by yo, like, yo, it's time to pray. You know what I'm saying? Things like that. You know, it could be it can be a good companionship too. Or let's go do this, let's go do something, let's go, let's go fishing, let's go do something. We ain't trying to hang on the hood. But some people that could influence you, like, yo, I got these two, I got this girl and she got a girlfriend. You know what I'm saying? You can you can you can bag a girlfriend, it's just so many different ways people can influence you and do the wrong thing.

SPEAKER_07 1:38:20

So you know, but I'm just saying, but Mark talked about something, she talked about something. Somebody could influence you to suck on a champion. That's extreme, man. Like I you know, I'll I I think it has one of my nephews, man. Yo, they like but no, I do.

SPEAKER_08 1:38:53

I have a I have a nephew that's you know that's you know, he chose that that life, but it just it you know me he was influenced by something. I don't know, somebody influenced him to, you know what I mean, to be that way. You know, but my other nephews don't even hang, don't don't hang with him. That's true, right? Y'all don't hang, y'all don't y'all don't hang with him. Oh do y'all I'm just saying though, you know what I mean, but you gotta be real careful, but I mean but my nephews be around me a lot, so I try to invite I get on their nerves. I know I do. They be having attitudes with me sometimes, but I don't care. I'm gonna say what I'm gonna say to them. I'm gonna I'm not never gonna sugarcoat nothing. I'm not, I'm not never gonna talk to them in a manner with where they were sideways, is a mixed, is a mixed message. Nah, I'm coming at them and saying, yo, you shouldn't be doing it, you shouldn't be doing that. As they're supposed to be. If I'm giving a mixed message to them, I'm I'm doing an injustice to them. You know what I'm saying? And it's up to them to take the advice and do what they do what they're gonna do with it. But I'm gonna always, as long as I'm here, they know that whether it's my son or my nephew, they know that yo, I'm gonna say something to him about something that they're out of pocket. And I'll, you know, and it's up to them to do what they're gonna do about it. Like I just today, my nephew was in here today. He had to get a haircut. And I was I've been knowing him for a couple days. And what did he do? He went and got a cut. Now he then I and then I see that because I'll be confused when I come here some some days. I see him. I don't know if he's he's getting high. I don't be knowing. But I seen today, he got a cut, man. He got some good, he got a good grade of hair. His mom gave him good grade of hair. You know, he got curls, he got he can get waves. I I didn't even know who he was. But I had to be on top of him, you know, get a cut, get a get your hair, and he got it done. He still got his hood on the hair now. But I don't know, it ain't cold in here, man. You know? But yeah, so it's it's good to be on top be on top of the kids, not on duty, to to kind of you know, encourage them to do the right thing and choose their companions wisely. But about to get up out of here, y'all. Um, y'all can call in right now. We got like maybe two more minutes. 215-316-4492. 215-316-449. Back in the day, didn't you used to hang with Mikhail back in the day? Who McKel? You remember Mikel? Darkskin McKay? Yeah. Oh no, no, I ain't never hanging with McKay. You know, McHale's come on my crib when I was a young boy. But I don't have my mom is a hang, my mom's hanging, hanging with Miss Cat. And Mikhail was a little since we was bucks.

SPEAKER_09 1:41:23

Yeah. So I don't have a hang up about, you know, I won't make like you my personal partner to hang out with. Like we always together. But when I see, like I said, Cata is a good friend of mine. There you go. A good friend of mine. I see Cata shake his hand, hug him in the street, and all that. I don't, I know what my sexuality is. I don't think it's a good thing. But influence, though. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right. You you know, but I I just still think when you about 10 and 15, you can't be influenced to suck in nothing.

unknown 1:41:49

No.

SPEAKER_09 1:41:50

That you don't want to suck. Don't do the. You know what I'm saying? I just don't I don't believe in that.

SPEAKER_08 1:41:55

Tell us who the jail is who he's speaking with.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:58

Yo, how you doing? What's up, man? It's Cliff.

SPEAKER_08 1:42:00

What's up, man? What's going on, bro? You calling from, man?

SPEAKER_04 1:42:03

Uh, Bang Bang, South Philly gang.

SPEAKER_08 1:42:05

No, man, what's going on, man? South Philly. Shout out to South Philly. What's up, bro? What's going on?

SPEAKER_04 1:42:09

I be calling in. I don't know if you notice me calling in, but uh, I'll be messing with y'all while I be working, man. Y'all get me through my shits and all that.

SPEAKER_08 1:42:16

Yeah, man. Appreciate that, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:18

Yo, what uh I was watching, you see the young boys that got booked, uh, they got sentenced for killing Julio.

SPEAKER_08 1:42:24

Mm-hmm. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:26

Yo, they need to show that in every high school, middle school, all that. What they thought was gonna happen.

SPEAKER_08 1:42:32

Yeah, he turned to Jason Terry in there crying. And I'm not not trying to try to kick kicking white down, but young boy, he did, he just realized that his life was over, man, and he couldn't do nothing but cry. We were talking about that earlier. Can't do nothing but cry because it's it's a it's multiple lives that's lost. And and it's unfortunate, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:42:52

Yeah, but like, like, like, first of all, why'd he go to trial? They should have just took it, like, why'd they go ahead up with him like that?

SPEAKER_08 1:42:59

But the thing the thing about it is this though, the the um the girl that was on the trial, she took a deal first. So now what she she admitted to guilt. And and once she did that, and I think she might almost testify against him. I don't know if she told, but the evidence is overwhelming. They had they had just so much, they had the phone, the the uh the pinging on the towers. It just was like, yo. It was just so much overwhelming evidence against them guys, man. So we just and they knew this, but they tried to fight it. I think they I think they had PDs too. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:33

Uh no, no, they had no good lawyers that look like nice and official. No, they didn't.

SPEAKER_08 1:43:38

It looked like the it's now now just because the lawyer got him a suit and the tie, I don't mean he's a good lawyer, man, you know.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:44

You're right. But uh, no, I'm just calling in, man. Yo, black man, you boy.

SPEAKER_08 1:43:49

Thank you, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:50

I appreciate that, yup. Guys have a good night.

SPEAKER_08 1:43:53

All right. Shout out to Naheen Bryant, 9893, man, becoming a member. Appreciate you. Tell us from the jails.

SPEAKER_06 1:43:59

We're speaking with Hey, what's up, fellas? It's King Robbins.

SPEAKER_08 1:44:03

Where are you calling from, man?

SPEAKER_06 1:44:05

I'm in Jersey City.

SPEAKER_08 1:44:06

Shout out to Jersey City.

SPEAKER_06 1:44:07

A follow-up question for black, bro. This kind of off topic, but I was thinking about this, bro, because I was tuned into the episode when you was talking about your uh your lady's son, the fire-year-old.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:16

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06 1:44:16

And I was wondering, like, bro, did your lady hear that episode? Did she see it? And then, like, like, what's the follow-up? Like, is it did it, like, what's going on with that?

SPEAKER_09 1:44:24

No, she she she didn't uh she didn't hear it or see it because she choose not to watch it, but uh probably one of her friends or something probably seen it because a lot of her friends watch it. But uh like I said she mentioned nothing to you about it? No, she never mentioned nothing to me about it. But uh it really was no follow-up because I never made it an issue. I like I did I deal with a lot of stuff and don't approach it. Like, uh, and I'm not saying there's a right way to go, because you're supposed to approach issues and when they happen, but I'll let stuff stay bottled up until I just ball over. You know what I'm saying? Like, because I like what I'm gonna really get go to, like, yo, your son said this to me. And then I feel like of embarrassment to even be going to her, you know what I'm saying? So I just left it all the way alone.

SPEAKER_06 1:45:05

So I man, look, I could tell, like that episode to me, it felt like it was like a therapy session to you, bro. I could tell you was releasing not on duty pause. But like, you know what I'm saying? I recommend, bro, don't even hold nothing in no more. Not on duty, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like for real, bro. Because I can tell, man. But look, uh I'm glad that you know it is, bro.

SPEAKER_09 1:45:26

Thank you, man. I appreciate you, man.

SPEAKER_08 1:45:28

Shout out Jersey City.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:29

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SPEAKER_08 1:45:31

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SPEAKER_09 1:45:57

Stay out of jail. It's Monday, man. Hopefully everybody's intact for this beautiful Monday that we're enjoying, man. The weather is ready to start breaking, man. It's coming up, man. It's ready to start getting hot consecutive days back to back to back. That part of the season again for us, man. But, you know, it should be something that we're looking forward to, you know, because you can get outside a little bit now. You can let your hair down, you can relax, you can sit in your backyard, man, you know, light the grill up. You can do more activities than you can do in inclement rather, such as the rain and snow. And with, you know, good weather, it's bringing everybody out. So be mindful, man. Mindful and take that extra 15 to 20 seconds to think something through. That's all I ask.

SPEAKER_08 1:46:35

Yeah, I agree. I agree, y'all. So thank everybody for tuning in once again. Episode of Tellism Gels is sponsored by uh TNS uh media group. Uh, thank you guys for tuning in. Thank you guys for following us. Thank you guys for becoming members and subscribers. Don't forget, check us out, yo. Our sports show, man, T B-I-S-E. Don't forget to follow us on Instagram as well at TBIS C Sports on Instagram. Uh uh T B I S C Sports 247 on Instagram and T B I S T Sports on on YouTube. Check us out, man. We on there talking about boxing, you know, um, football, basketball, everything. He likes to um whatch call uh bad mitten. That was his sport, a choice in jail. So we so uh but uh we thank y'all for uh