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Tales From the Jails Podcast host was accused of being a snitch after a Reddit post described Braheem Jackson as an alleged snitch on a murder case. Braheem addressed the fake allegations that were posted on the website. Braheem brough fire and energy to this interview speaking the truth while understanding someone is trying to destroy his name.

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SPEAKER_03

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SPEAKER_03

What's up? What's up, everybody? I know what it is. It's Tales from the Jails. We're here live in Power Meaves. TNS Media Group is a team and the family. You know why I'm Tau Feet. I got my counterpart, Mr. Brahim Jackson. How you feeling today, man? Oh man, it's great.

SPEAKER_02

It's a great day. It's a great day today. It's a good day today. Today it's Friday. You know what happened on Friday, right?

SPEAKER_03

What happened on Friday?

SPEAKER_02

If you go to jail.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you don't get out until maybe Monday, Tuesday.

SPEAKER_02

And Monday is a holiday.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So Tuesday, Wednesday. But you know, like how you always say, Tauffe, we talk about, you know, real live true stories up here, man. Real live encounters that happen to you if you're out there breaking law and you're going to jail, whether you told, whether you stood on business, whether you swindled, whether you did some honorable stuff that you thought was honorable. And we bring these stories to the public for people that may be thinking about doing it or never did it before, hear it, don't have to have to go through it. Because they know about it now from what we're giving them. So the people that's up here gotta tell the story. The people, ain't nobody gonna believe it if you have individuals up here that how can you say it? Uh putting on a facade. Yeah. Putting on the facade up here faking, you know, everything that's done in the dark will always come out in the light. I like to believe that same. But, you know, whether you, any little sneaky thing you ever did in life, it might not have caught up to you yet, but it will catch up to you. And one thing that I can dedicate my life on, Braheen Anthony Jackson, is my dedication to when I was in the streets of being a very honorable and come, you know, a companion to my brothers. And not only to my brothers, because you know, when you're living in that street life, man, and you doing stuff, man, and you seeing stuff going on, and like say I got shot by some, you know, some some ops, whatever, and I'm in the street life. I got shot. I gotta be honorable to him too, because it's a code that I gotta protect. Street cool, y'all. Street, I'm not saying this is right, but I'm getting to where I got to go, but I gotta give it to you in a whole nutshell. So street cool. So I I owe him some integrity also, which is an op. Because I can't tell on him and say, yeah, if I'm living a street life. Okay, with that being said, you know, I uh uh I want to give back in my back in like about 15, 20 years ago, if I'd have heard this 20 years ago, I'd have acted in a different manner. So now I know today when I hear what I heard last night about some allegations. I was posted on the uh Philadelphia Reddick. I want you to put that up for everybody to see. For those who don't know, just joined the chat. Uh Philadelphia Reddick is a uh is a site that put out a lot of Philly business. You know what I'm saying? Whether it be true or false. I'm not I'm I'm not gonna sit here and say that they got things up there that's absolutely false. No, they got some things up there that's true, but whatever it is a person thinks they found out or think that they know about you, you will go up on this site. And today or yesterday, I popped up on this site. You know, now I'm gonna carry it in penitentiary terms, you know. When a person makes an allegation against you, you know, and accuse you of something, they have the right, you know, to prove that paperwork, right? And in this case, it's absolutely correct. Go ahead and skip over. You see some statements, statements about a case that happened in Philadelphia. You see a case where uh you have uh, is that it right there? Is that it? No, I don't think that's it. That's it, and you have a case with three codefenders, well, three defendants that committed a murder. They was charged for a murder in 1998, right? And out of the three co-defendants, one of the co-defendants' name is Braheem Bram Jackson, right? Braheen Bram Jackson. This code, this paperwork is absolutely correct. It is nothing false in this paperwork. Nothing. I'm not gonna sit up here and say, yo, this is fake. No, no, I know how to read paperwork. I'm a convict for real. And his other two codefendants is uh uh Dante, go back up. You can see, y'all can pull it up on the Philadelphia Reddic, too. No, go down, scroll down a little, uh scroll down a little more.

SPEAKER_03

Scroll down right there. Um I don't think this is it, bro. No, I said it. Scroll down. I just saw it, scroll down a little more. It's a little right there. Uh Dante Dawson, uh Katherine Franklin. And Richard Mitchell. And another one was identified as uh Michelle, who was also a person who testified on the case. But go ahead.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, Brahim, also known as Brahma Jackson. You got Dante Danton, and you got Franklin Franklin. Katery Franklin that was charged, you know, well, that's arrested for, you know, multiple homicides. Two homicides on Germantown Avenue and Tyoga Street. Germantown Avenue and Tyoga Street.

SPEAKER_03

My bad, Kendrick Haskell and John Ford parked their car across. Okay. This is the, I guess it's the person who did it, Kendrick Haskell and John Ford. Is it two that parked the car?

SPEAKER_02

Okay. And the boy Brahim Jackson was with him. Um yeah, I'm assuming. Yeah, go ahead. Okay, boom. All right. This all, you know, whatever that this is written up right, this is accurate. Accurate to a T. The only thing that isn't accurate is that picture up top of all this. And that picture is me, which is Brahim Anthony Jackson. Now, in order for me to say that, I gotta show paperwork. And you know, a lot of people, you know, y'all like the clickbait and y'all like the drama. So some people ain't gonna believe it if you see it or not. But you know, I'm a man, so I'm gonna still talk about it. So you want to see the paperwork, right? So let me get to that. I'm telling you right now that that is not me. My case wasn't in Germantown, Tyoga. I know neither three of these people: Jackson, Franklin, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh Dotson, none of them. I don't know none of them people. This is a totally separate case. Now, again, I want to thank the audience for listening to everything we tell y'all to be true. Because whoever pulled this up, and I seen the name, but I ain't in the calling names, and you know, and put my face on it. You listen to my stories. I told you that I got locked up in 1998 for two homicides. I got two co-defendants, yes, and I will not put the men's name out there because they choose to keep their name to themselves. You know, that that was over with. We was blamed for something that we did not do, and we want to put that far behind us. Now, if you punch up my name and uh what's that called? Yeah, a lot of y'all got pacers or whatever, whatever the case may be. From 98, try 96, 96 to current, brahem Anthony Jackson, 7580. That's my uh age. That's my age, uh uh uh uh uh uh uh the year, birth date, the year I was born, all that, 7580. That's me. Um, you pull that up, you're gonna see it probably about uh in the state, in the state. This is state, commonwealth, worth whatever, whatever, or however you do it in the state, in the state of Pennsylvania. You pull that up, you're gonna see about 11, 12, 13 charges. I was, you know, always copping out, you know, you're gonna see it, you're gonna see it, boom. But my homicides, you will not see. Why? It's because I beat my homicides, Norse. Now, for people that don't know what norse is, is when you get your case thrown out, and with a homicide, if you get a homicide thrown out, nor they can pick the case up anytime that they uh get some evidence, newly evidenced on this case to help, you know, prosecute you. Because the reason why they throwing it out is because you sat in the county too long. They've been all I sat for three and a half years fighting two homicides. Three and a half years. And for the men that sat with me, they know this story to be true. Everybody knows I was in there, young and you know what I'm saying, nickname. They know my name. Oh, yeah, he had two homicides. I don't brag over that. I was charged over something I did not do. You see, they threw the case out and they threw it out nor means they can come back and arrest me today if they get evidence on my case. Now, okay, I found out about this last night. A couple of my men sent it to me that seen it or whatever, whatever, whatever. Go ahead to the front cover for it, please, for everybody to see. Because I want to see everybody to see where they could go, you know what I mean, see it at. Now, again, I say that is a picture of me, but that is not my case. So, like I said, for the person who listened to me, or everybody listened to me, and went back and you know, that's telling me that you're fact-checking. You punching up Braheem Jackson, two homicides, and I'm getting it. You're saying that, okay, this got to be him. And it makes sense. That's Braheem Jackson, Brahim Brahm Jackson. When you punch up Braheem Jackson, you're gonna have numerous Braheem Jacksons pull up. You gotta make sure that you get my birth date, which is 7580. You gotta get my you gotta get my real name, which is Brahim Anthony Jackson. I have no reason to hide from nobody. You know what I mean? And now, now when I say all that to say this. I called my lawyer this morning, lawyer that, you know, Dave Meeshak, that presided over the case for me. I said, damn, Dave, you know, some allegations came out. Me, I'm doing it for the social media world, and I'm doing it for me as my pride because I am a man at the end of the day. Shout out to Dan Akins, man. I had a uh great conversation with him because he was one of the men that came at me last night and talked to me about it. Not in a disrespectful manner, but he talked to me and he's a man. Shout out to you, damn Akins. And I didn't you said I ain't even got to come up here and address it. But I felt as though that I have to. I have to address that. Shout out to you too again. But uh hopefully you understand, but I'll holler at you later on. But um the lawyer, the lawyer informed me that the case is so old, and being as though that it was thrown out, it's not on documentation no more. So in the penitentiary, this is what we did, right? When you had somebody come through and they had allegations, or if you just didn't know about that person, that person got 30 days to get his paperwork. Me, I'm not asking for 30 days. And I and I and I love it, it's content. This is content. So it's interesting, and I know y'all want to know all the way about our lives. So I'm asking y'all for seven to ten days. I'm thinking it ain't gonna take over ten days either. I'm gonna get you because I I was looking at my cases, me and my lawyer was on the phone because these this case right here happened 1998, August 13th. I was arrested 1998, August 3rd for a gun and drug case, right? A gun and drug case. I'm trying to see if I made bail and got out before the 13th, because if I didn't make bail and was sitting in there on the 13th, that right there already already exonerates me, right? But no, I'm going, Dave is going to get the paperwork of me and my co-defenders in the case that we had and then how we had it thrown out in our pros at the sitting three and a half years in the county jail. I fought that case for three and a half years. I've never been upstate before. Never been upstate. Never been upstate before. And I've been breaking law all my life. And again, I don't say this to try to pump the kids up and be like, damn, black did this, and no, no, no. I'm a man and I'm coming to correct some things that's wrong. And again, I'm not mad at who put this out there because you did your homework, but you didn't do it fully. You got to get the age and the date and the birth and all that. That's how you nail a person to the cross. You nail a person, it's no way a person could come out of that. You know what I'm saying? And then it's not even no way, is this is actual facts. This is you. Okay, boom. So I'm asking for seven to the 10 days. I ain't even gonna have the lawyer call up here, you know, because I could have him call up here and come up here because he's a personal friend of mine, just in case I ever go back to jail or anything. Not that I'm saying I'm gonna do that, but he's a good friend of mine. So he's been beating cases for me for a long time, damn near 30 years plus. Um, he's gonna get it. He's gonna get it. He like he got to go through a whole bunch of stuff. You know, I just found out about this last night. So, you know, y'all could uh fact check me on that within the next seven to ten days. As you can see, these three co-defenders up on this, which is a Michu, a woman, another uh co-defendant Michu, Brahim Jackson. I don't even he wasn't even a co-defender, he started telling on Braheem Jackson, um uh uh uh uh uh Ford and Haskett and all that. You see this case right here. Now I'm gonna bring you the the crazy part about it is like I said, I was locked up in 98. I think Haskell on Ford was shot. Yeah. Well, all right, well, however it goes, y'all can read it. I got locked up 98 in the October, beginning in November for my two homicides. But again, if you go look me up, you're not gonna see it. You're not gonna see none of that. None of that's gonna pop up because my case was thrown out. The only ones that can venture vouch for me right now is the men that was locked up with me back in the county, all my old heads that know that I was over there for two homicides. This is not me. This is a person with the same name as me, Brahim Brahm Jackson. My name is Brahim Anthony Jackson, you know, and um like I said, I'm not even mad. I used to, I would have been mad back in the day and up here hollering and hooting, but a person's supposed to pull up who they, you know, listening to and taking facts from. So I don't I don't I don't fault for you for that, dude. I don't fault you, man. And if you you pulled up some stuff and you thought it was me and you rolled with it, man, and and then look, it looked good. If I can't show you nothing that I had another homicide, then evidently the people got to take that. Evidently the people have to take that. Just being, we just being smart right now. We ain't being, this ain't hard, this ain't rocket science, like we gotta put two and two together. This shit easy is one, two, three. Easy. So now the ominous is left on me. I'm gonna bring you within the next seven to ten days, I'm gonna bring you my case documents and put it up here. Brahim Jackson, I'm not gonna say my other two co-defenders' names, but at the time, but when I put the paperwork up there, they put their names gonna be up there on it. So, you know, we ain't gonna, I don't know, do you want to say anything about that? Because you know, before because we I want to get into the topic of the day what we really want to talk about, but you know, I want to address, you know, like I said, he he wasn't a hater. I'm not mad at the dude that put this out there. All you know is I told you I caught two homicides 1998, Braheem Jackson. You pulled me up, seen it, and you see a Brahim Jackson that told, no, I sat in jail for mines for three and a half years, bro. That Brahim Jackson ain't never been pulled up. If you pull Braheem Brahm Jackson up and put him in any of the circuits, he'll never come up because he never had a case in his life.

SPEAKER_03

So for me, uh I look at the situation and as I look at it, I look at it, you know, like the person who put this out, uh, they didn't do their homework. So they gotta be careful because whoever put this up, you didn't do your homework and you putting stuff out claiming that somebody is a snitch or a rat or that somebody told, and you know, it's disrespectful because at the end of the day, this is a stand-up man. This is a stand-up man. I've known this man all my life since we was about since probably since 1988, since we were kids. And never, ever, ever has this man told we didn't do so much stuff and did so many different things in our lives that, nah, man, we ain't doing nothing like that. And also for me, if he would have told, we wouldn't, I wouldn't be sitting up here next to him on no podcast, you know, doing none of this stuff. I wouldn't be doing it. That's just how I roll. But for me, I look at it as, you know, it's just when you when you when you're doing certain things and you and you have some type of success, doesn't always mean money, doesn't always mean anything. But when you put yourself in a position to uh succeed, you know, people gonna come after you from different angles trying to tear you down. It's just how it is. And normally the sad thing about it is it comes from your own people. You know what I mean? A lot of times it comes from your own people. You look at uh people who've been successful in life, a lot of times they either killed by their homies or people with the same complexion as them. But we got to change that narrative. We got to get better and understand that, you know, you gotta be very careful and put stuff out. Now, if somebody actually really did something like that and it's you have all the evidence and facts in line, by all means, do your thing if that's what you want to do. But don't be coming up here, you know, or putting stuff out on social media about somebody saying somebody did something that you have no proof, no evidence really to say that it's done. You're just going off of a name. How many people got the same name in the United States? It's just this stuff happens, but you gotta be very, very careful with that.

SPEAKER_02

No, but but but you know what though? But like I said, I'm not, I don't fault him. Just think about it, bro. We're gonna be honest. He listening to my stories. Whoever this person, well, I know who it is, I seen it, but I ain't I get it. He listening to the stories. We're gonna be just real honest real second. Like just we ain't gonna bash out and try to say nobody hating. Just be honest, just be just be a human for a second and think about it. I'll tell you a story. Yeah, bro, I'm black. Yeah, I mean this and that. You know, y'all know my name, Brahim Jackson. You know, I told you I'm ready to do a documentary. I let this part out early, but I wanted to take you through my neighborhoods and show you where I was charged with certain stuff at. I ain't even get to do that yet, but we still doing that. But I say Brahim Jackson, I say I caught two homicides in '98. I'll tell you about that. I'll tell you about my federal case when I came home from my homicides that I went straight to the feds and did 21 years. I tell you about that. And then you go fact check me because you're listening to me. You want to just see if I'm up here camping or not, and then you come up with Ibrahim Jackson that was locked up in 1998. And matter of fact, excuse me, he wasn't locked up. He told a Brahim Jackson that had two homicides and told. I'm gonna say, damn, this board, this the board tells them jails. I'm gonna say that, but I'm gonna still gotta dig a little bit because I don't know. I don't all I got is abrahim Jackson. All I got is a Brahim Jackson. I ain't got no picture. I could see if he had an older picture of me up there, which he wouldn't because it ain't me. But back in the day of the case, I wish I could get in contact with the co-defenders because they said one of the, I did the homework on the co-defenders. They say one of the co-defenders got death penalty, and I think that's Mitchell.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, the lawyer told me he has the death penalty. So he's still in jail. I think the other one is in jail too. He got an eight and a half to 40. I found that out through the lawyer this morning because he pulled them up. And I'm like, yeah, this is this and that, this and that. But you know, I get it. I get it. Man, and and and and and shit, rightfully so. We in the penitentiary, y'all, and some work came out like that, we standing on a homie until he could prove otherwise. And that's just it. So if you go in there and something like this come up, you still got to show up. You don't duck out, you show up and talk. The man that sit down and can't produce, okay. It's a red flag. Penitentiary rules, not society rules, y'all.

SPEAKER_03

Mm-hmm. So, yeah, man, you know, I just, you know, my thing is everybody calling me, yo, yo, your man, your man, your man, your man. Like, come on, man. Yo, like, come on, don't disrespect us, man. You know, so that's why we had to address it. Not that we wanted to, but you gotta have the had to address it so for all y'all there who spreading it around gossiping, saying that he's hot and saying that he told, check yourself, man. And and if you feel like that and you feel like somebody told without without doing your proper homework, you know what I'm saying? I like to call it due diligence. You got you gotta check yourself as a man.

SPEAKER_02

Go back to that screen again, man, where everybody can see it, man. Go ahead and man, it's Philly Reddick, man. And I ain't mad at them either, man. They're getting some, and then we got a little buzz, man. The people love us, man. The people love what we got to say. They know how we're coming. We stepping about the people. It's for the people. So I get it. Now I'm understanding everything that you told me because I'm I'm still got my little edge and my little ways, and I'm I gotta hold on. If it wasn't for this man, I walk away from this joint. I walk away. You know what I mean? Because I'm impatient. I want to, I got a lot of growing to do, a lot of growing on the outside. But you know what I'm saying? So I love it, man. I love it, man. I love it, man. I embrace it, man. I'm here, I'm sitting down with y'all, man. Hopefully I'm in everybody's living room and we cracking, you know what I'm saying? Whatever we doing, man, but let's get to it, man.

SPEAKER_03

And I want to say one last thing, man. Uh listen, man, whoever, whoever wrote this, right? Whoever put this statement out there like this, whoever said this, if, I mean, I know you can't, but if you were ever able to find something on him, snitching on him, I will give you all the rights to all my bank accounts. Everything I own, every property I own. Everything I own, you can have it if you can prove it. That's how I'm rolling. You, you, if you can prove this, and it's a lot, it's a lot. So if you can prove that he did this, if you got some proof to show that he actually did it, I will give you everything in my bank, all my bank accounts. Because I know you can't prove it. It's a lot. Let's get to it, man. You know, uh, you know, people out here, you know, want to keep want to try to tear people down, but we gonna uh keep on rolling, man, until the wheels fall off, man. And um, you know, you more so upset over more than me, man, because I understand it now, bro. At the end of the day, you my man. And I know. Yeah, but I yeah, but yeah, I know that, but it's I would rather somebody take a shot at me, you know, opposed, opposed to you. That's how I roll. But yeah, this person who put this out here, you know, check yourself, man. You know, and like I said, if you can prove it, I give you everything I own. Everything I own. And I start over. You know? And you can have this, and you can have the podcast. You know, you can't do it. I know you can't do it. And I just wonder who you, I just want to see. I wish I could see you and see who you is. And I and I probably have a different, uh different opinion of you as a man. You know?

SPEAKER_02

But we getting into today, man. You know they sentenced baby girl today, man. Yeah. But did he sent her today or yesterday? The girl from the Julio Fulio case, man. Yeah, let's get to that. Yeah, excuse me, I looked at, I look at her. Oh, ho, ho, before we move on. I got seven to ten days. We ain't gonna forget about that, y'all. Seven to ten days to show you my actual case of being locked up for two homicides and getting them thrown out. Seven to ten days. That's all I ask you. Just for my pride. I ain't got to do this. I could sit up here and not say nothing and just ignore it and just we'll have a show. Nah, I ain't doing that about my name. I love my name. And then I ain't even got nothing. I ain't even get it yet, y'all. I ain't got nothing. I asked this man for shit all the time. This crash is man, I ain't got nothing. I ain't gotta be sitting up here capping, y'all. I ain't got nothing. But you know, let's get to it.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. You know, and everybody who out there just is who spread this around and all this stuff, man, then stop texting me with that and stop calling me with that, you know, respectfully. You know, stop calling me. And then also you hear somebody talking about it who's saying this and saying that, man, check them and tell them to chill, man. Chill out with that. But anybody who's spreading this around, because people spread it around like and do this stuff, this is you know, it's just it's just it's just not worth it. It's not I d I just saw the comments and stuff like that. But I started not to look at it, but I ain't gonna lie, had me a little a little heated because I I know who you are as a man. You know what I'm saying? When you know someone who somebody is as a man, you know who a person is like this person went to the prison with the jail and got indicted and didn't tell on me. You know, didn't tell on me the 21 years, and then tell on me, he could have told on me. You ain't tell. So for me as a stand-up individual all the way around, and it's my brother. So therefore, if somebody talking crazy saying something that's not true, of course I'm gonna feel some type of way about it. You know what I mean? But let's get to this stuff, man. You know the uh they they still continue to to uh sentence individuals in this Julio Fulio case, as we see. And this young girl's got a fit sentence, she got 15 years, right? She's a young girl, I believe she has a child as well, I believe, if I am mistaken. Y'all could probably uh correct us if we we're wrong about that. Um but she's young, 15 years, uh as a young girl, getting that amount of time. She told it's evident that she told us on camera, everything she told, you know. So we're not about having to call somebody snitching. They didn't snitch either. We're gonna do our homework as well. But you can go ahead and fact check that she actually uh gave a statement for 15 years. She got up out of there. And she was smiling, happy with the 15 years. Yeah, she was cool, she didn't get that life. That's what I was thinking. You know, you think probably she saw that she saw them get life, and she like, damn, I got it.

SPEAKER_02

Not only did she see them get their life, she seen them duck death. They could have got death easy if it wasn't for the warden going in there and said, Man, let them boys work. They done died. It made sense to the judge. Like, damn, he right. Just think about it, like, we ain't gotta kill them, Yana. In other words, this is what he in there saying. He didn't say it in the meaning. I'm saying it in, I'm breaking it down for you, street terms. What he said. Yana, we ain't got to kill these dudes, man. We can work them like dogs. They not none, near one of these boys is 25 years old. They best years is left. She seen that. If she didn't see it, she heard about them deliberating if they live or die.

SPEAKER_03

She is coolio with that 15. But I think she knew that. I mean her lawyers probably prepped her for that early younger. She told early on. She went, she would have she went to trial or went to court first, I believe. Right. Before them. Because she was separated from that case because she's automatically testifying against them during the trial. So she already knew she was, she was gonna get a lighter sentence than what they got. You know what I mean? So her getting that 15 years, she already knew she was getting, like I said, she already knew she was getting something like in regards to that. Oh yeah. She knew it. Now you're not gonna give you life. You told you telling somebody, you know, you're not giving you life for that. No.

SPEAKER_02

You know what I mean? No, no, no. I seen dudes get life for telling though. You still get life when you tell. Yeah. Yeah, but because you you might have ducked something greater like that death or something. But I seen dudes tell and get life. Yeah. Mm-hmm. You have them do you be like, why you even do that, bro? You still here with me forever. You could free me at least. And again, we not up here saying we just telling you how it goes in the streets and what you're supposed to do and what you're not supposed to do.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Yeah, and and now she now she going through this 15 years, but she's still young. What's she old? Was she what? 21? Well, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

She was in her 20s. But uh, I want to say something. What's the name just said right now? Terrero Walker, 13, 12. What's up? Shout out, family. He said female prison at female prison ain't as rough as the males, so she should breeze through that. Ah, 15 years, man. I don't care. I don't care what type of prison, a cat prison, a mouse prison, a man prison, a girl prison, 15 years in confinement. That, that, that, I don't, I, man, I don't confined. We're talking about confined. Regardless of you might got all your taller trees and might got nice hot meals and beautiful meal, confined with us all though. For 15 of them. Not five, not three, not two, which is a stretch two. We're talking about 15. So yeah, just think about it in that manner. Then you're right when it says all they ain't all that bad as far as the violence and the, you know, the conditions of being extra, extra filthy. No, but you still got 15 in confinement. We ain't gonna forget about that. So think about that and tell me if it ain't that bad.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, but I look at it a little, I mean, I never did a substantial amount of time, but 15 years, if I'm looking at somebody in life, I'm looking at that 15 like it's nothing. Because she already got like a deuce in, right? Yeah. So she's gonna do about another time, if that. I don't know how the how everything goes in Florida, how much time you gotta do, what's up, parole date or whatever the case may be, but 15 might not be that I don't wanna say I always use the term not that bad, but it ain't it ain't life.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it ain't life, but I ain't trying to do none of that, bro. See, I just looking at my age, I'm older. See, you got dudes like how we had Mooji talk up here, man. Shout out to Mooge, man. You mean he caught his case when he was what, 21? Yeah, and he got what a 20 to 40. See, that's that's that's I'm not saying it's but but for the for the crime that he was uh convicted of or whatever, that's suit, like all right, I can stand on that. And I don't want to, but I'm uh I'm gonna come home 40 something. You gonna be in, yep, you mean you 40? Well, you catching that case now and get that dub in 15, that might be worse than life, bro. Bro, I went back and did 18 months, bro. Out that 18 months, man, I might have cried two months, bro. On a looking at the wall tip at night, I'm laid in my bed and I just turn over and face the wall, and one joint will just fall down this crack. I'm only doing 18 months. You said what happened? One joint, one tier, or roll down.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_02

You talking about what happened? This man's here you go, back on you.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. You said a couple not on duty earlier, you would be up and out, but you was just so serious. I just couldn't shoot you with a not on duty gun and on duty.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, they definitely be in there scissors. They they they we ain't gonna get in all that. Just said that. Uh uh ski beast seven seven you. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

So yeah, they definitely yeah, it's about you know. I mean, we talk about the time, the aspect of the of the time, the the hardship of the time. You know, she's gonna be up there, you know, she'll be home soon. She'll be she's still gonna be young. She might be about 30 something. Boom. The girl she got.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. She's gonna be young. No, no, you're gonna say 30 something. 15, she's gonna, if she like 26, 27, she about 40. Yeah, she's still young. If she had, yeah, that's still young. You know, gel's gonna preserve her. Yeah, it's definitely gonna. She can't get to the drugs like that, alcohol like that. That's not to say that she was using any of that, but if she was, she's gonna recuperate better in that department area of her life because it ain't in there like that. It's in there, but so minute. You know what I mean? So she's gonna have a health intact through not being diminished from drugs or alcohol or anything like that. Um, you know, she's not getting sex unless she's scissoring or, you know, masturbation. So that's another, you know, good sex, um, excuse me, good health benefit of sustaining from sex and more.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, she's 21. She'd be out, she's about 35, 36.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, because she probably got a couple years in already. How long have they been fighting? About two years. And she's been locked up the whole time with them? I believe so. Gave a fits, and she made out. Yeah. She made out. But what was her role in that? That's what I want to know. That was your daughter who told like that. If my daughter told, and but see, but she was rocking with them, right? Yeah. She was with all the gangbanging and like she was a I don't really know her role as far as gangbang.

SPEAKER_03

I know she she she she was with them when I like rolled with them to the uh Airbnb and set up stuff or whatever case they beat up. But I don't know if she was like gang or whatever, and since it's not a gang, but I know she was actually involved, you know, to the point where though they they arrested her. And they probably arrested her because knowing that by arresting her, that she was gonna tell everybody else. That's how they do it. You know what I'm saying? Give her some type of conspiracy or so, so forth and so on. But I don't know, I don't, I don't know how involved she is in the street stuff.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I don't know how involved she is in the street. But like I said, if that was your daughter, like how would you? But if that was my daughter, man, see, it this a tricky, this is a tricky junk, and I try to answer it for the best of y'all can on some, you know what I'm saying, convict shit slash rehabilitated convict shit. Because I like using a lot of convict ways out of here because they apply, they keep you out the way. You mind your business and all man stuff. So I'm I always apply a little bit of the penitentiary to my outside role. That's just me. I ain't telling nobody else to do it, and I might be burnt out, but just rock with me for a second, y'all. And um, what would I do? It would have to be if I seen signs of my daughter like getting high, because I think they was out there getting high, like smoking weed, like she was probably a problem child in that manner, smoking weed and drinking. You think she had all these qualities to her at that age?

SPEAKER_03

I mean, she's young, so she and she hangs on. So I'm pretty sure I'm assuming she probably might have been doing some of that stuff.

SPEAKER_02

So now, if you her parent, you wouldn't have noticed that? Yeah, we're gonna be. Like a certain accent, like, damn, because we didn't smoke weed and got drunk before. We older. You know what I mean? So you seeing your child coming and doing there, you would you would you peep it? Yeah, for sure. Okay, so now these are the things. Now, if I'm peeping my daughter out there, like she out there now, you know, especially if I'm. So that's a little boyfriend she was. So Oh, especially I'm gonna know a boy, like how you said you're gonna know who your sis, you're marrying your daughters, but just say if you know you you weren't knowing like that and then she had a boyfriend, you're gonna know who her boyfriend is. I mean, I would I would I would like to, I would hope so. Yeah. Well, if I'm in my daughter's life, I'm gonna wanna know who her boyfriend is. For sure. If I'm one of them pops and I'm round and you asking me, I'm in her life, and my daughter got locked up behind this foolishness, and she told, I'ma know who her boyfriend is. Like, yo, what's up with boy? Like, I wouldn't try to, unless he was one of them wild young boys and they say he busting heads and he's crazy. I'm like, yeah, you can't mess with him, babe. Yeah, this this little kid right here going to penitentiary, or he's gonna die. Now, if he was just a misfit and all that, I would have to check it, but like, listen, man, dudes like this, you you don't, yeah, man, he's gonna end up going to jail, then you're gonna end up having another boyfriend and he gonna be mad at you because it's me. Let's talk a tour. But like, now listen, then I'm just hearing he just a wild little. I'm I'm not hating on him for that. I'm not telling him to stay away from my daughter. This is just me. Because I'm looking at him like this little nigga just need a little polish and he got it. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Half the time, them dudes is acting out and doing bad shit, they thorough. They just you're running around crazy as hell. So I'm gonna be looking like, all right, yeah, at least my know my daughter's gonna get, if something happened, he's gonna punch her on something about her.

SPEAKER_03

We're talking about which car, we talked to which car. We got an interview coming up too. Uh uh, it's coming real soon. Well, Jefe. Hefe uh from CCK. He spoke about, he said that he went the, when he went there, he's gonna say it in an interview, y'all gonna hear it, but he spoke about not having the proper old heads, the proper people to give him some type of guidance or say the right things to him about what he was going through, and that, you know, propelled him into doing some crazy stuff, whether it was taking the wrong deal or committing crimes and breaking law on the streets. Like a lot of the young boys and youth, they just need somebody to say something to him sometimes. So if you see, like I I do this all the time, right? And um, well, my family got used to it, you know. I stop and talk to young boys. Like I might see a young boy and just stop and just talk to him out the blue. Yeah. I've been doing that lady. Yo, what's up? You know, I see and they walk past me, I stop, shake, shake their hand, speak to him, you know, give him some some encouraging words because you never know. He could be walking to go commit a murder. And and by you stopping, you know, a murder or robbery or whatever it may be, we're getting into some type of trouble. And by you stopping him and saying something to him, you never know what that can do. That can that can that can stop him, you know, from you know, doing something or or or ruining his life. So we gotta take the initiative whenever we see a young boy uh who just you can just walk in down the street saying what's up, or just see somebody, I mean, just and just speaking to him and giving some positive words, man. Like, you know, look, it's gonna be cool, everything gonna be good, man. You know, how you doing with this, how you doing with that? And they just they just need to hear that, man. And it helps them, man. You know, because we was young boys, we was we was we was we was listening to each other and and doing a lot of stuff we shouldn't have did a lot of times, and and maybe it's somebody would have stopped us, stopped us and talked to us, we might have listened. Or or not, maybe not, but you know, you just never know.

SPEAKER_02

You never know, and that's the sad part about it, man. But like I said, me, if I was the scene, and then her little boyfriend got caught up, and but like I said, I'm gonna see little treats as far as I'll be always warning her, like, yo, if you is and you can't be getting high in this roof, why is you getting high in there? And I'm seeing her run around. I'm like, yo, what's up with dude, man? Watch yourself with him and this and that. And then she go to jail and she tell, I'll be like, damn, man. I wouldn't, that's my daughter. Like, I'm not in the streets no more. If I like that's my daughter, I'll be like, I would try to talk her out of it. Out of telling? Yeah. If I were yeah, street would be like, but like, yeah, man, listen, like, what like what you doing? Like, just say you don't know what's going on. And I'm not saying this is the right thing to do, y'all. I'm saying me. I'd be like, yo, you was running around with them now, you you you you caught up or whatever, whatever, and then you telling on them boys, man. This can lead to more problems. You can get one of us killed. I'm gonna let her know the severity of it. You can get your mama and say we got a done, she got a sister, then you in a whole nother world. I'm going, I'm I'm not gonna sugarcoat nothing with my kids, bro.

SPEAKER_03

Yo, I'm not sugarcoating nothing with my kids. Yo, that's crazy. What we're talking to my daughter today, boss. I had my daughter with me all day today. Yeah. So I had her in a car with us. And she was like, son, happy. We're talking about something. She was like, Yeah, I'ma tell. She said, Yeah, you gotta tell, stuff like that. So I already know my baby telling. I already know, I already know. It was something. What were we talking about? We're talking about something. She was like, Yeah, I'ma tell.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. I said, I said, there you go. She's a law-abiding citizen. That lady don't, that lady ain't part of the streets. That lady is raised up preppy. She said, I'm telling. I said, all right, well, cool. All right. And he said, No. Terrell Walker, 1312, he said, Black as a convict, as a convict, you letting your daughter do life chasing behind some knuckleheads. I I it's out my hands, bro. It's out my hands. And when I say that, meaning I'ma know if I'm if this is my daughter and I'm around, I'ma know her, I'ma know her moves. I'ma know my kids' moves. And if I see her with it, now mind you, if my daughter of age, I'm not letting her be young and hot in the pants. This girl was 20 years old, 19. I'm not telling my daughter she can't have a little, if she meets one or whatever, I'm like, well, no, you can't have no boyfriends in there. I ain't one of them type of dads. I ain't gonna, you gotta be extra gentle when it comes to them baby girls, man. Because you'll break them and you'll have them. That's what I think anyway, and you'll have them shying away from you, like, can't tell pop nothing. He be all on. I want them to tell me everything. And I don't care how much it can hurt because I can't stop you from what you're doing, but I can direct you from the doing to what you should be doing. For sure. And that's just it, man. So I'm not letting her, but if I if it came down to it, and I because uh all the way up until this, if I'm seeing traits of her being with knuckleheads and you know, getting high, whatever the case, and I'm not saying that's the case, but uh when you have something like this, this is usually the case in the neighborhood. Would you agree? And I'm not saying that is good, but nine times out of ten, this is what's going on. She's running with a brad group, they smoking weed. I'm quite sure all of them get high and drink. I would get you only, you gotta remember, I'm just I'm 45 now, and I was 19, 18, 17. I've been their age. They gotta get our age. So, with that being said, um, I'm not letting my she did, she did that on her own. She did that on her own. She got caught up in some knucklehead stuff. Now, mind you, along the way, I'm gonna give her some nausea, which is advice. I'm gonna talk to her about it. Yo, you can't be running around doing this. You can't be, I don't want bad for my daughter. I don't want her getting uh prematurely pregnant and this and that. I want her to be, so I'm gonna be stern about that, but I'm gonna be telling her. But if she still continues to do it and do it, because I can't, I'm not gonna beat her at 19 and 20, would I go take her and whoop her behind and snatch her in the house and drag her all around?

SPEAKER_03

She's gonna run away and do that.

SPEAKER_02

Nah, you might, and I'm not saying you will, but you if you do, okay, I respect your approach to it, but that's just not mine. So I don't really think that I'm letting her do life if that answers your question.

SPEAKER_03

I'm saying looking at the picture that they got on this uh Reddit Reddit thing. What kind of uh what is that on your on your on your on your head?

SPEAKER_02

Oh, that's the joint I was wearing. That's a penitentiary joint, it's a beanie. That's what you wear on the yard. Oh and you I was ball headed on them joints. I used to wear them joints all the time, especially when I do my burpees. I do my burpees and pick one of them on, it catch a lot of sweat. It catch a lot of sweat. So, you know, you you you doing burpees for 45 minutes or an hour, boy, you your whole little spot around you be drenched on the floor like you was just pouring water all around you.

SPEAKER_03

I thought it was like I thought it let like a do, like a like a do-rag. You just tied it in the back. Like one.

SPEAKER_02

No, they they that's what no no no no no no no no. I ain't gotta wear one in the morning street. I could go buy the good one. That's the good one I wouldn't bought. I wouldn't bought that. That joint was like six dollars. Oh, yeah. Little stocking rags, little stocking cap joined. I like them type drones. All right. If I ain't got the hat on, so I had to take the hat off today because I wanted the audience and the family to see my face. Because you can look into the eyes of a man and tell you talking to a man. One thing about lions, lions don't eat other lions, right? They respect each other. This is the wild uh nature of just life, period. Whether it's human or animals, we all animals. Lions respect lions. Lions go chase sheep down, cow, something docile, deer. Ain't nothing fighting back. Gazelle. Gazelle ain't anything bad, little goats and all that. But a lion will never eat no grass, how hungry it gets, and it'll never eat one of his own kind. They'll fight all day long, but they ain't eat nine. So uh they understand. Well, I say that to say that they recognize each other. So men, grown men and grown women, upon encounter from me anyway, I recognize it, man. Gotta sit around you all day long, and I can tell by your conduct, the way you handle yourself. Now, don't get me wrong, some people could uphold a facade, but I'm pretty good judge of character, and I had to use that for 21 years of my life in prison, or I might have not made it out here to tell you all these convict stories that's going on in there.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I just um wanted to also say, you know, like a lot of times, like when you have kids, like when you got when you got girls, right? You got girls, you got you got daughters. You rarely expect them to be into anything like that, though. It's like you don't you don't expect them to come up on no daggone murder case. Or be facing life in prison for murder. Like you might see your son in the hood, you might make this boy, you can you can tell he started doing a little survey, this boy might go to jail. Like Father Vinowski, like his mom said, she was like she was concerned about him because he's out here, he comes, he said he comes, he came in the crib at 11, 12 years old, drunk and high, or high off high. You like, hold on listen. Can you imagine your son came in the crib at 12 years old, high? Stumbling. At 2 o'clock in the morning. What you doing? You beating him? Yeah. It might be an altercation between me and him, yeah. At 12, you beating him. I mean, I don't know. I'm not sure. Don't back up off the statement now, stick with it or even. It's the difference between getting a beating or just your dad putting hands on you. I probably more so laying towards putting my hands on him. Because you're not coming in my career, like I'm not a beaten, like I'm not, I'm you're coming to my career back. High at 12 years old, you gotta nip it in the butt. It gotta be what it's gonna be right then and there. So whether that's a physical altercation or a verbal lashing, one of the things it's gonna be something physical. It ain't gonna be verbal. It's gonna be probably both, be verbal and physical. Yeah, at the same time.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I'm I'm probably gonna come come to stop or it can go, I'm tired of you, dad, and you get on my damn night. Yeah, I mean, go, oh, you gotta bring ass to get ass. No, no, dude. Man, you always got to think that if he think he's gonna go in there and verse, it might go the other way. Oh, it might go the way he all in there, like, don't worry about what I'm around here doing. And what time I'm coming in, you looking up, hey, what you gonna grab? Grab the arms. Time to go grab these arms now. We're gonna try this sport out. Yo, yes, sir.

SPEAKER_03

Can you imagine that though? Yes, sir. Reverse the whole. You can't lose that battle.

SPEAKER_02

You better not. You gotta win that. Better not, because this respect is going all the way out the door from that moment on for the rest of their lives.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, he's gonna have a he's gonna have a step up step of a bravado, like, you know, yeah, I yeah, I knocked my dad out. He he's gonna he's gonna be unstoppable. Mentally, he's gonna be in a whole nother atmosphere. If your son hits you on the chin and put you down, and don't go out.

SPEAKER_02

You wake up and he's still sitting over top. You like, didn't I say, did you hear me? You like, what you say? So now you know you was out. Yeah, that's a bad joint. He is empowered over you. That's a bad, bad jump.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, nobody, ain't no, ain't no man gonna ain't no man gonna accept that. Your son knock you out and then and then tell you, like, yo, this is my crib. I mean, stop playing with me. Like, I come in here when I want to come in here. You know, I remember coming in the crib late. I used to try to sneak in. I try to climb up on the back, roof, climb through the window. I'm saying I do stuff like that, man. Like, I ain't never I ain't never just come walking through the front door. I think one time my dad was like, yo, yo, I I didn't even know you up looking for you. I was like, no, I was in the I was down here. You hear me calling you? And stuff like that. But he wasn't slow though. He was like, This nigga gets got, I know you just came here. But you know, like for real, like I wasn't like walking through no front door, like with no type of, you know, like what up smell like smelling like weed too? Well, if he smelled like or drink or alcohol. Coming in the coming through in the front door or or nicotine. Like what? Like at one at two o'clock in the morning? Yeah, nah. We ain't going for that. You know what I'm saying? We're not we're not going for that, man. So another thing, right? Your daughter coming to the crib at that time. Mm-hmm. What you doing? Two o'clock in the morning, smelling like weed. You don't know what she was doing, where she was at. 12, 13 years old.

SPEAKER_02

I might got to whoop her ass too, man. Yeah, she might get it beaten. This is my daughter, man. I'm I might, and then I'm gonna beat her with a belt. Yeah, you gotta be. I ain't gonna beat her with hands. Yeah, you gotta get her with a belt. I'm gonna go ahead upstairs and be like, yep, I'm gonna go ahead and give her that nod. That's the go like that's the go nod. Like, this green light. When she sees me, like, look at her and she turns the light on, trying to get around and she sees me, I'm gonna be like this and turn and go. Because now I'm grabbing that, yeah. I mean, that that that that that that that belt. Yeah, I got to beat her. Yeah. Yeah, I got to beat her. Because man, the only thing that make a person act right is ass whoopings, man. Ass whoopings is in place for a reason, man. Yeah. When a person gets beat up over something they did, they and they really get beat up, they'll think about that the rest of their life, they'll never forget that wrong they did to that person to get beat up. I've been beat up like that before. I've been beat up like damn. Like when that nigga was in school and I told y'all a story about that nigga in school, and I'm sitting there slap boxing him, and he starts punching on my junk real good until I almost went out. That joint happened like 97, 96, no, excuse me, 95, 94. What 93, 92?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, somewhere around that, 93, 90, somewhere around that.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and and and and and I and I still remember each punch vividly. I'm almost nifty ball Jamal. Here's five to one. Huh? He was landing five to one. Man, he was landing with both them joints. I'm talking about continuously, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And I just was just looking at everything coming, but I got a strong face. I ain't go out. I ain't go out, bro. I ain't go out, but I ain't never forget that nigga. I know what he looked like unless he got, I ain't seen him in years. But yeah, if I ever say I'd be like, oh, that's him right there. Through the gray or whatever, he got gray or whatever. He be the same age. We was all in the same class. But I say that to say that ass whoopers is in place for a reason, bro. Like, all that's something, everything that don't work. But then, you know, the government took that away from us. You can go to jail for whooping your kids now.

SPEAKER_03

So I'm asking questions. That's bad. I'm gonna ask a question. So in jail, right? If somebody says somebody told in jail, right? And they and they can't produce paperwork. What is what what happens to that person who tells? Is he beat up? Is he uh forced out the block? Is he got a check-in? What happens to the person who says, yo, black told, but they can't prove it? What happens to them? Oh, he ready to get punished.

SPEAKER_02

How? Beat! It ain't no other way to do it. Either the the his car sex him in, or we slorting him and he still gotta go. If paperwork is presented, if if if if an accusation, this goes on in the penitentiaries, FCIs, lows in the federal system. If a person comes to a yard or is already on a yard and yard meaning compound, which is uh aka again for those that don't understand, jail, at the jail you at, if someone either is already at the jail you at or come to the jail with accusations about someone being hot, and hot meaning told, he has to have that information to follow through with everything he's trying to do, right? If he does not have that information in a certain amount of time, the whole table will turn on him, meaning he got to go. He can't be trusted. He's looked at as kind of as a rat. Like this nigga's trying to lie about somebody. He got to go off the yard, he got to get checked in and get transferred to another jail. And sometimes some dudes go and be like, damn, they know they ain't got the proof to say it, and then they leave and they go up top, yo, CO, I gotta go, and they lie to C O Y, he got to get off the yard, somebody wanna kill him or whatever. Or you got the bulls like he did tell, he can't prove nothing, and then four, instead of one nigga that you had that you was making an accusation over, it's seven, eight niggas dogging your ass. That's how it goes. That's how it goes in there, bro. There ain't no other, I don't, you know, they might have watered it down right now, but this is the basic route of how it goes in the federal system. You think that some type of rule like that should apply in the streets as well?

SPEAKER_03

Um, see, in this case right here, I already speaking about that. I'm talking about overall, like, because this is like something, you know, but I'm saying, but no, no, my bad. I can't downplay it. This is the same exact thing we're talking about. So what should be the consequences in the streets for somebody who do something like this? Like you can't call nobody hot, see somebody's told, you know, tarnishes somebody's image and so forth and so on. What is what can we do to can we at least ban them from being able to post on social media? Or I mean, I don't know if you can stop that because people can post and do whatever they want to do in this social media world. What can you do? What should be the consequences for somebody who's spreading false narratives about a person, you know, about anything?

SPEAKER_02

The only thing that could be done, the only thing that could be done in a law-abiding citizen's life, us as a whole, that person should be shunned. Because I don't want him to die over no shit like that, him making up allegations because he thinks this, oh yeah, I don't think that warrants death. But he got to know that his accusations and him claiming uh uh that's like being called a homosexual when you're not homosexual, and that's not no disrespect to the, you know, the uh the homosexual, the gay community. It's not no uh to the LGBT. It's no disrespect to that. But you can't make accusations of someone being something other than what you saying that they is, and then you ain't got no proof behind it. So my thing is out here in the streets, that person should be shunned, man. That person can't be trusted. He will lie on you, he or she will lie on you, they have no integrity. They try to paint a picture of you to see whatever harm or fall that you have from grace because you know what these accusations carry. This is frowned upon. Like having HIV is frowned upon, and a person like to keep that quiet. You want to keep that quiet. You don't, you don't, you know, did that when you give people certain titles, them titles right there carry weight, man. And if you can't prove that, you you gotta you you gotta be disciplined about that. I think so.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I agree. Because, you know, my thing is, man, you know, when you moving around, like me, you know, we far removed from the streets and all that, but like that's rules, that's grounds for somebody get at you. You know what I'm saying? That's grounds for somebody get at you, like, you know, you you you mess with somebody's livelihood, somebody's name like that, you know. And tell us when the judge, like I said, we we don't never never like to get messy and get and get into like that caddy stuff, start speaking about people, people's business and so forth and so on, or you know, unless things are evident more so. But you you spreading things out like and you and you just hop on your computer, typing things in the computer, then you walk walk walk about your day. You know what I'm saying? Like I think people I think people like that who do stuff like that, people need to get a belt for them. A grown man get a beat in with a belt. That should be the rules and stuff like that. I got like you know, like you know, that's like you know, but I I just I don't like that at all. You know, I don't like certain things, and I don't move in certain manners, and people just move in certain certain ways, it just makes me feel some type of way a little bit. Because I know we we build our ourselves up on and we came up on. We ain't telling. We ain't snitching on each other, and we ain't dancing, we ain't snitching on nobody else. So y'all people I had just spreading these narratives, like you know, our foundation is solid, man. Rock solid, you know. That's why we stay together. One lose a draw, like we ain't nobody nobody moving like that. All y'all even questioning that. If you're questioning him, you questioning me. You questioning me, like you know me, like people know me, like I'm a stand-up dude. I mean, I'm I'm I'm not in the streets and all that, but my name A1. I'm not saying it bragging, like my name, my name is my name. All you got is your name. Once your name is tarnished, you know, you really you really did. People questioning questioning your integrity. You know, like that's why I feel some type of way about it, but I'm getting I'm getting past it. You know. This too shall pass. Yeah, I think. That's the same. That's the question. I would have rather you just dig something up on me and just make something up about me. I probably would have felt a little bit better about that. But it's my bro. And you know, right or wrong, weak or strong. And it always been like that since what? Since we was kids.

SPEAKER_02

Knee high to a grasshopper. People talk that sandbox stuff for real. And that's like rightfully so. It's probably a lot of y'all, you know, that have that type of brotherhood or friendship or whatever. But we call it a brotherhood over here, man. It ain't too many like it. And you know, again, I ain't boasting, I'm just humble for it. I'm I'm I'm humble for the opportunity to go through what I went through with my brothers and staying tall, like with all of it, with all of it, and to be where we at now, it's like wow, when you sit back and be like all the filth and mud that we done came out, man. And to be alive, free, on top of all, and going in a good direction and motivating and sending a message to others back from that.

SPEAKER_03

Coming from our neighborhood, and then like, you know, we went to jail for things that, you know, things that we well, you went to jail for things that we did, and the other guys went to jail for the jail for things that was going on. You know, I look at it like, you know, what do you have? What did what what what have you what have you done since you since you've been home? You you you have been spreading awareness, you know. You know, we have had the opportunities to do so much, man. You know, change our lives so much. Being able to, people say who own things in their neighborhood? What you own in your neighborhood, what you got in your neighborhood, what we own in our neighborhood. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02

Again, don't know everybody forget I got seven to ten days to show you my paperwork for my case. We ain't gonna sweep that under the rug. What have you done for your neighborhood? We on all convict time up here. This is convict time right now.

SPEAKER_03

Seven to ten days from today. Well, have you what have you done? What have you done for your neighborhood? What have you done? You know, what what messages have you have you done? We spent some years trying to tear down, tear neighborhood down. And it's time to build it back up. You know? And we're in position to build it back up. Mm-hmm. You know? And build we will do, as we are now. Yeah, yeah. You know, hunting street coming coming real soon.

SPEAKER_02

Don't get up in CD. I told you you get your back when you get back. Just chill, just chill.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, oh.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, we gotta chill, we gotta chill, y'all.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, we gotta chill. You know, like show some respect, man. Puss be be respectful.

SPEAKER_02

Leave us up, man. Who ready calling on this beautiful Friday, man? Again, man, make sure y'all remember, man. Keep your head straight, man. Keep your mind. It's Friday. It's a little rain out there today, but uh, I think it's supposed to be raining pretty much all this weekend, but you know, we still, one thing about us folk, us folk, we find a way to shake a tail feather, and that's that leg. You understand me? Not on duty. Here you go. What are you talking about, man? You know what I'm saying? So be mindful and be cautious of how y'all partying tonight, man, or whatever y'all partying. If you're going out to the restaurants, if you're going to movies, skating, bowling, still be mindful and vigilant. Watching over not only yourself, but whoever is around you, especially for the men. We the protectors, man. We the big dogs for real, for real of our families. I know little, yeah, I mean, little big mama like to think so, but we really the big dogs for real. I'm saying that to all the men. We the big dogs of the family, and that's just it.

SPEAKER_03

I want to say something too, but it's a little off topic. Like men and women, man, y'all, if you got kids, man, you know, like y'all got like men and women who have kids, now yeah, we gotta try to um, we gotta try to, you know, be cool for the kids. Like, you gotta put your differences to the side because, you know, if you if you if you can't see eye to eye, man, just go through a third party, but still just make sure that y'all just being cordial for the children. Because people be trying to make the kids uh choose sides and all that. That's not cool, man. You put a lot of pressure, a lot of stuff on a lot, a lot of stress on on your on your child, trying to make them choose sides, trying to make them feel like they they need to be on your side. That goes for the men and the women. We gotta get back. Tell us from the jails we speaking with.

SPEAKER_05

This is Diesel from North Philly.

SPEAKER_03

What's up, Diesel? Shout out to North. What's up, man? What's going on? How you feeling this Friday, man?

SPEAKER_05

I just wanna say that was uh some good shit what you did with us skiing O and his son, man. You can bring them two back together. That's what's up.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, man. We got some more stuff coming with O and his son, man. It's gonna it's gonna be coming real soon, man. Uh we're gonna try to try to bridge that gap, man. Okay, that's what's up. I appreciate you, man. You know, another one there. Uh, tell us from the jails we speaking with.

SPEAKER_09

Hey y'all, dark skin beauty.

SPEAKER_03

What's up, dark skin beauty? What's going on? What's going on? Shout out to NY. What's up with your dark skin beauty?

SPEAKER_09

Everything is cool.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09

Uh so I wanted to go back to the beginning of the show. Um, so there's one thing you don't realize, Black. You are that guy. Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, man. Hey, hey doctor, you can't be called line and all that. Like you're going, because he looks he blushes.

SPEAKER_09

That's what I'm here for. So you're gonna get the slander, you're gonna get the rumors. You're gonna get all of that. If you if a person is doing content, like I said in the chat, they're doing it the right way, they get in a check. If they don't get paid for that, it's straight for hate in Slander. So just accept it. You know what I mean, and handle it like how you handle it today. You could address it, or you don't have to.

SPEAKER_02

But you know with me, you know what me, Dark Skin Beauty. I'm standing on my name every time. Every time. Like again, I shout out to Dan A because my old head told me don't do it, keep it pushing. I had to I had to go ahead and not listen to you this time. I had to listen not listen to you this time. We men, you understand me though.

SPEAKER_09

Listen. The further you get in this YouTube area in the internet, you will understand.

SPEAKER_03

Mm-hmm. That's facts.

SPEAKER_09

I'm telling you. Next thing you know is gonna be you're a homosexual.

SPEAKER_02

You know what I mean? Oh no, I ain't even get that. I ain't even get to them comments. I ain't even get to yeah, I ain't even get to them comments. If you go on the Reddick and look at that, join us up, they talk about some one dude was like, Yeah, um, yeah, old head be giving up them crazy stories. I don't got him for telling, but I definitely got him for being on ass. And I'm like, dang. Yeah, I mean, I'm like, all right, cool. Yeah, man. I yeah, I ain't even start addressing none of that. I'm just like, all right, man. I I get it. My homies in the penitentiary told me I might go to the left away one day. So I said, shoot. All right, but I ain't never did it though. I ain't never did it.

SPEAKER_09

You all gotta, no, you all gotta even address it, and that's what I'm saying. The longer you go with this, you'll see. Like, I've sat next to the next, like the best of them on the internet, and I'm telling you, I've seen a lot.

SPEAKER_02

So you good basically prepared to a handy cool.

SPEAKER_09

Like, you are that guy.

SPEAKER_02

Thank you, appreciate it.

SPEAKER_09

So we see that. These people who posted that, they see that. So it's not even about what you got, what you can get is what the they don't want you to have. You know what I mean? So they're gonna stop it by any means necessary. So just don't even think about it. You address it, it is what it is. We still here, we still family. We don't care about none of that.

SPEAKER_02

We about cheer. Thank you, Dark Skin Beauty. Enjoy your weekend, man. We got some great content coming for y'all next week. So tap all the way in. Thank you.

SPEAKER_09

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you get some money. It's gonna be a bad, it's gonna be a bad, bad season, man. They better let you get no money.

SPEAKER_02

Boy, a little bit of it. I'm gonna be like, Tupac is back. You know, I got a little, you know, mean go in your main. We about you.

SPEAKER_03

It's gonna be a lot of a lot of long faces out here, man. You know, but you know, shout out to everybody that's been supporting us from day one, man. Shout to everybody that's supporting us, man. Period. Somebody said, shout out to everybody who's just been watching, everybody apart that's live, all the listeners on uh Apple Podcasts, our Heart Radio, uh Spotify, everybody that's been showing love, man, from day one. You know, everybody that's with us, along with us, man. We really appreciate it. And also shout out to the haters, too, because without y'all, we wouldn't be at nothing to talk about today.

SPEAKER_02

Nope. We I man, y'all got us right back in the loop. The whole topic. How you get carried with the wrong information. But again, like I said, with this one, again, it's kind of tricky because he shows me that he's interested in this. Why? Because he listened to my stories. I told him I was convicted and not convicted, but charged in '98 with two homicides. Told him I everybody knows the name, Brahim Jackson. He fact checked it, as he should. But the first joint he came across, this black tails from the jails. Now it becomes something else.

SPEAKER_07

Oh, this my account.

SPEAKER_03

I hear you said it.

SPEAKER_07

It's my account.

SPEAKER_03

My account from Delaware?

SPEAKER_07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

What's going on, man? How you doing, man? Shout out to Delaware. What's up, bro?

SPEAKER_08

Good, man. Yo, family cartoons.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, yeah?

SPEAKER_08

Look, man. I did both my bitch back in the game. And I just wanted to always tell the boy boy. Man, keep doing what you're doing, man.

SPEAKER_02

Man, definitely that, man. Definitely, man. Thank you, man.

SPEAKER_08

Yo, some real life, man.

SPEAKER_07

One day I seen a show that discussed me, and you was like, I don't know if I'm getting into the young boys because I had all the young boys on the um all those Philly young boys rapper. And you was like, I don't know, keep it tall, but I'm telling you, keep moving, man. Keep going with y'all. We're watching this show. I think it's your brother. Y'all doing it, man. And we we supporting it, man. Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Thank you, man. I appreciate that, man. Mean a lot to me, man. You really don't even know me.

SPEAKER_08

No, y'all always joking. Not on duty. I'm backing up. That's your brother, dog.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_08

And um, just keep doing what you're doing. I don't know what show I'm watching, but I'm watching the show where the boy is trying to say you had told us, man, listen, man. Yes. We know you're 100, man. Keep doing what you're doing, dog. That's all I want to say, man. And also, I got a business. I want to get my thing on there.

SPEAKER_07

I've been calling you.

SPEAKER_08

Let me know how that goes too.

SPEAKER_03

All right. Brian, I appreciate you, man. Email us, man. Email us. Email us.

SPEAKER_08

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

All right.

SPEAKER_08

All right. Your brothers be good, man.

SPEAKER_03

You too.

SPEAKER_08

Alright.

SPEAKER_03

So he's trying to get his thing on there. Yeah, that's on duty. Oh my god. Shout out to you. Shout out to my guy, though. But listen, but hey, you know, um, what I will say. Another thing too, a lot of times people like it's just something's going on. Like um, you see, sometimes people pick pick uh pick on the weak. Like, we know you remember how like we in the streets, like you see, somebody might pick on somebody knowing. Like, say I say say I say I say I slap somebody, right? I slap the I slap the person, boom. And um you know, another person might try to start slapping because they think that you're weak. You know what I'm saying? Hold on. Tell us in the jails. How you doing? What's going on? Who you speaking with? It's big C from North Jersey. Shout out to you, see what's going on, man. Shout out North Jersey.

SPEAKER_07

This this for black. Talk to me. And acting funny, shit like that. We talk about that. But to the person who wrote that, uh uh, put that up. When black gets a paperwork, are you gonna apologize or come up and say you wrong? That's all I wanted to see. Probably not. Probably not. You know, that's real man stuff because like what black said, I understand what black ain't wanted and nobody should get home. But if you've been in prison, you know you all somebody and you ain't got paperwork, only one thing coming back. You dig? Yeah. But I feel black is being humble and going another pattern. But where I'm from, you know, you call somebody a rat or fit, and you and they're not, you have to deal with some of them. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02

That's all so I agree with you, man.

SPEAKER_03

All right, man, you too. That's another call. Tell us for the jails who we speaking with.

SPEAKER_02

Call back, man. Call back. You disconnected, remember what you were saying over?

SPEAKER_03

Like, say all right, say I say something about you, right? Right? Say or say somebody say something about something about an individual. And they might one person might be a person that's gonna fight, shoot, whatever. Right? And then another person say the same thing about an individual, but this person is not known to shoot, not known to be, not known, probably be from the hood, or the case may be. But the person that this person says something about won't come at the person they know that fight and shoot, but they'll go at the person who not known for shooting, not known for fighting, not known for anything. Tell us from the jails who you speaking about. Speaking with, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_08

Speaking, oh, speaking with Bone from West Philly.

SPEAKER_03

Shout out to West Philly, what's up, man? That's that's where we from here.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, nothing. Nothing, man. How you going, man? Y'all, y'all, you, y'all team is some soldiers, man.

SPEAKER_02

I appreciate that, man. Thank you, man.

SPEAKER_08

Um real quick, um, um, I um I'm gonna change y'all the draw is 1215 on YouTube. I want you to um you breaking up, man.

SPEAKER_02

You breaking up. You probably gotta turn your radio down or something if I can't hear you.

SPEAKER_08

I'm sorry, can you hear me?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I hear you perfect now.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, I said my son is incarcerated. Okay. He's been incarcerated for three years. Yeah, and he we're trying to get him home, but I would love for y'all to get him on an interview or something. Like, we got a lot of good things to talk about for these youth.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, we can set it up, man. Yeah, you gotta hit us up. You gotta um, you know, uh email uh tells from J. If you set it up, we'll we'll set it up for sure.

SPEAKER_08

All right, got you, brother. I appreciate you, man. And keep keep moving. And I'm all for you.

SPEAKER_03

All right, thanks, man. Absolute, yeah. So, like I was saying, one person they know, one person they know they're gonna shoot, one person they know they're gonna fight, gonna do whatever. But the other person say the same thing. But this person is not um a shooter, not a fighter, any of any of that. So the person who this person says something about, they go after him instead of going after the person that they know fight and shoot. What does it say about the person who goes after after the weak individual opposed to duck and wreck with the other one?

SPEAKER_02

See, it's just that I'm my older years now, Feet. When you ask me questions like that, I'm gonna give it to you uncut, man, raw, and people gonna look at. But I I came to understand, even though that's sad and it's cowardice, that's what I think it is. It's cowardice, it's sad, but the the weak gonna step on the weak to get to the top, man. Well, strong step on the weak, you mean? No, even the weak, too.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

That's what I'm saying. Like, you're gonna see the weak because if you're doing that to a weak person, you is weak. If you over here, you know this dude busting that joint. Everybody talking about how hip hop is right, and you know he got it. But you rather go over here and and and and mess with the bull over there, been quiet all day long, and said nothing, but you know he's doing a little something too. It's an easy joint. Same thing with lions. Again, like I tell you about the lions. Lion ain't over there fighting his brother and trying to eat his brother, all that. He trying to chase down that deer. That that little sheep, something dosile. Calm as hell. So yeah, I mean, that's that's the way of the world, man. Like, that's sad, man. Like, that's why. And then go again to talk about raising kids, man. That's why I raise my kids to hit back, man. Hit back. I don't tell them to go out there and press nobody, but don't let nobody pop you either, man. And I'm not saying that's the way you should go about it. Me, me, black Brahim Anthony Jackson, whatever you want to call me, but call it me.

SPEAKER_03

That's what I'm doing. Yeah, I just think that sometimes people just, you know, pray on the weak. Sometimes, and then, you know, that's not that's not being a man. You know, I don't really respect respect that. Because there's a lot of people out here that that that that say things or move in certain manners in certain ways, you know, that uh be really with that that life, that that that that drama, you know, or whatever the case may be. And then people people don't take the same approach, man. Uh to people, man. You know. So I just I just feel like we we we we can't pick and choose who we who we wanna who we want to have beef, beef with. You know, not saying I'm condoling, I'm condoning beef. I just feel like man, you know, if you're gonna do that, it should be the same with everybody. You know, should be the same with the same with everybody, it should be the same, man. We never move like that. You know, if you move on like that, you gotta really check yourself, man. You gotta check yourself because at the end of the day, we never move like that. You know, now I seen you do some I seen you do do some do some wild stuff. But I'm not never look at it. We just like we just gonna we we duck and wreck from them over here, but we're gonna go over here and and and and pick them off. That never was the way we move. Anybody hustling you close to us, we don't care, I don't care who you is, man. You move you if you close to us, you you cutting, you know, cutting traffic, whatever you doing, whatever you, whatever. I don't care who we we didn't care who it was, we wasn't ducking no wreck. But nowadays, the way it is is people just doing certain things, man, that's not respected. Well, I I don't I don't respect it. I just feel like you know, we gotta move move better, not Cadona Von. But at the end of the day, you gotta you you gotta move the same way with everybody. That's just the way I feel, you know. And um I think I think that you just uh the mentality of individuals have changed. But then again, that's been going on for going on for years. We've seen people do that all the time. I never really never really respect people that that did that to the weak. Though I honestly, like you just picking off the weak, you're taking advantage of uh weak individuals out here, you know, but you're not uh addressing strong individual individuals, you know. That's just says a lot about you, whoever you may be.

SPEAKER_02

Any more call? Okay, there we go.

SPEAKER_03

Tell us from the jails who we speaking with. What part of Philly are you from, bro?

SPEAKER_08

West Philly, 39 there.

SPEAKER_03

Shout out to Westfield, that's where we're from. What's up, man? What's going on?

SPEAKER_08

What's going on, man? I'm calling y'all, man, to get y'all pops on y'all show. Appreciate that, man. I'm a CEO in a jail, so I see a lot of the shit that y'all cat be talking about on this jail. I'm 34. So I can relate to a lot of the young boys. Grew up in an area, in the neighborhood, come out of the come out of Shuler's gym. So I'm tapped in with going on.

SPEAKER_03

You be down shoulder's?

SPEAKER_08

I'm not from down the bottom. I just come from out of that gym.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, yeah. I I I've been in that's that's where that's where we're from. That's from the block. We're from Brooklyn Shoe. That's where we're from. Mm-hmm. That's our hood.

SPEAKER_08

So I'm just calling y'all, man, to give y'all y'all props. Y'all don't really know uh a lot of the game that y'all talking about on this show. I give it to the I give it to the men behind the wall. Appreciate that. Thank you, man.

SPEAKER_02

Appreciate it.

SPEAKER_08

Keep doing y'all's thing, man. Black, I really be changing to you. I think you you definitely be on what you be on, but Black, I be locked in with what you be saying. That's not on duty, though, bro. You gotta get off that, man.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, man. Thank you, man. I need some support for this, man. I'm ready to try to step start a boycott, man. May the best Yem Sen side win, man. We gotta get on this line about not on. He he keeps it loaded, too.

SPEAKER_08

But but y'all keep doing your thing, man. Y'all be safe.

SPEAKER_03

Right, you too, man. Yeah, man. You know, we uh we respect everybody, man, respect everybody's opinion, you know. But when you are stating something to be true, you gotta have you gotta have your evidence. You can't just state something to be true without any evidence and proof. And you can't pick on the weak and say that you're strong. Can't be you can't do it. Can't do it, man. You know. But my thing is this, you know, as as as as we go into you know uh our journey as far as tells me the jelly. Oh finish. Tell some the jazz we speaking with.

SPEAKER_08

Man, this Bugsy out of Maryland, man.

SPEAKER_03

Shout out to you, Bugsy, shout out to Maryland, man. What's going on?

SPEAKER_08

Man, I just want to show y'all some love first and foremost.

SPEAKER_03

Appreciate that.

SPEAKER_08

Quick last part about bullies, but I just want to say like to the kids, like, even if you lose a fight, we still respect you. You know, like some motherfuckers get bullied and beat up, and they feel like you gotta go grab a gun. But I want the kids to know even if you lose a fight, bro, you still a man, bro. We respect you even if you lose a fight. You know, you gotta grab your gun or feel like you saw because you lost a fight, bro. Every man gonna lose one or two, get bullied or whatever. Or you still on your two like a man, bro, you always get your respect. That's what I wanted to say, man. Like, uh, I think we uh we lost that fight. We grew up with fighting. Nobody wanna lose nowadays, or you know what I mean? Everybody wanna be a big fat bully. So they they come. Then they grab that gun, and the consequence they can't have the consequences. But I appreciate y'all free game, man. I'm always listening, man. Taking in knowledge and game and everything, man. Appreciate y'all calling, man.

SPEAKER_02

Man, thank you for calling, man. Be safe this weekend, man. Don't go to jail, man. I'm trying to stay out there, bro. Monday a holiday. They holding you to Tuesday, Wednesday.

SPEAKER_06

Man, I ain't trying to put my business, man. I've been on the one for a year now, man. I'm 18.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, all right, all right, all right, bro. Yeah, I ain't gonna do that one. Stay, stay, stay low, man. Stay low and grab you some hoes, man. Keep running, man. Be safe out there, bro.

SPEAKER_08

I'm about to get lower with no brought my flights straight, bro.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, man. Be safe, man. Thanks for the calling. Keep running, man.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, but you know, I just uh man, you crazy. He was crazy, man. Like, look, that bear on the run, jump is crazy, man.

SPEAKER_02

I'm being like what such and such.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that bear on the run ain't nothing ain't nothing nothing to be uh cool with. What's called ready to call in too? Who?

SPEAKER_01

Who?

SPEAKER_03

Uh Hefe. Might get him to call in, just talk a little bit. Tell you something, just say a little something, man. You know, he can speak a little bit. Yeah, my um, you know, my thing is this, uh, you know, my well, my mentality is this. My mentality is to win every day, my mentality is a hustle every day. You know, my entire my mentality is to have integrity, to do the right thing when nobody is watching, to be honorable to my men, to be honoring to the women as well that support me and just anybody in life. It's just to respect individuals. I just feel like, you know, um people have people lack respect out here. That's that's the that's the crazy thing about it. The the respect is people don't even respect people no more, man. It's like you get behind these computers, you can go in these dark rooms and behind these computers and type certain things or say certain things, and the kids is disrespecting the parents, the the the the the shooting up everything. It's just like what's what's going on out here, man? The girls don't even want to be, the young young ladies don't even want to be young women anymore. They want to be, you know, doing all types of stuff on it. It's just it's no it's just it's just it's just a crazy world right now, man. It's just like you know, where's where's it gonna be at the next five years, man? Tell us from the jails. Tell us from the jails. We're speaking with a call back. Got a call back, man. And um, you know, just just just the world we live in, man. I just you know, I just pray that we could just try to just figure it out, man. And then like I always say, man, um unity destroys poverty, man. We gotta unify, man. No matter what color skin you have, no matter what part of the city you're from, no matter what state you're from, no matter what country you're from, we gotta unify. But all are tearing each other down to build somebody up or build stuff up, we gotta, we gotta stick together, man. You know, we gotta build each other up, and we gotta help one help one another, man. We can't just sit up, sit up here and try to destroy each other. We st we if we destroy each other, who left? What's left? Oh, a messed up generation. If we destroy each other right now, and this will happen. The kids after that's gonna destroy each other. It's gonna keep going on and on and on and on. And this goes on all levels, whether we're killing each other, whether we going to jail, it just keeps, if it just keeps going on and on and on, it's gonna be, it's gonna get worse. You know what I'm saying? We suffer, we can't, a lot of us came through an era like crack, the crack era. The crack era hit hard. Crack era was going on. I think crack crack is actually dying out now. I don't really know if people still like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

I think they still smoke a signing out here. Nah, everybody liked them that good crunching munch. I call it that crunching munch. Oh, yeah? Mm-hmm. So hit like it like we used to get the John cook it up back in the day, and I'm not glamorizing, it be looking like popcorn. That's that crunching munch right there. That's that thing came back good. You are you know how you was doing it, but yeah, we done with that. That we're not promoting that, we just letting you know that we know what's going on out there with that crunching munch. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

But yeah, like I mean now, but that yo, that was that was that was years ago.

SPEAKER_02

Like they still frying it up. As long as they got pots, it's still getting fried.

SPEAKER_03

That tells us for the jails we speaking with.

SPEAKER_08

Yo, this Jeez.

SPEAKER_03

What's up, Jeez? What's up? What you calling from, bro?

SPEAKER_08

Uh oh, yeah, man. I'm from Philly.

SPEAKER_03

What part of Philly are you from, bro?

SPEAKER_08

I'm from North, around uh like Absort.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, Abyssford Project, shout out to Abyssford, shout out to shout out to North Philly, what's up, bro? What's going on?

SPEAKER_08

No, man, look, I done did some time, right? And by me doing some time and being in a hole for a couple months, you got a lot of time just to yourself to dissect a whole bunch of you know, streaks that everybody caught. I see where we went wrong at though. Okay. So think about it like this. Like with the with the with the crap error. I was born 87. So I missed it a little bit. I was a baby.

SPEAKER_02

No, no, it wasn't. No, no, you still was around. You was in the thick of it. Yeah, you was, yeah.

SPEAKER_08

No, no, no. But what I'm saying is, like, the game was it was not winding down, but it was at the end of his ropes a little bit. No, no.

SPEAKER_02

No, not 87. Not no 87. We can't agree with them.

SPEAKER_08

This is what I'm saying. This one said I was at the end of it. I was born 87. Oh, you was born in 87. I saw 90, okay, late 90s, early 2000s. Crack still was when the game was shot.

SPEAKER_03

No, no, it wasn't. No, it wasn't. Crack still was pumping heavy in the 90s, 80s, 90s, early 2000s.

SPEAKER_08

All right, but look up, look up. This is why this is why I think they got it wrong in. So I think the streets are safe. It's all dishonorable, you know, no matter what, uh, it's no honorable to these. And the real gangsters they they did it to feed a family with an honor code. What we grew up with wasn't an honor code. It wasn't no uh stop snitching and all of that shit back in the day because it was just an honor code. You feel me? You my man, you my family. So it wasn't it wasn't it was an unspoken rule. What I think messed it up is when the crack ever hit and they started targeting the black dealers. And this is a this is a this is a crazy flip. They started targeting a black dealer and giving them heavy time instead of the fee. I'm listening, I'm listening to the being the hustler. Once my phone was big, I went and got a job.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_08

Once my track stopped, I went and got a job.

SPEAKER_03

And what year was that?

SPEAKER_08

This was like what, 2008, 2009?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, crack still was pumping around there, man. Still pumping.

SPEAKER_08

No, no, I know that. But you get what I'm saying? I ain't had no more food.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, let's slow it up with you then. Okay, I get it.

SPEAKER_08

You might you might be going to war with niggas up the block trying to take all they you get what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, we but I'm telling you something. We always said something, man. You know, you must you must have had that, uh, you must have must have put too much too much bake on your on your work, man. Cause, you know, at that time, at that time, we we we we we we it was a bar process, you feel me?

SPEAKER_08

Like standing outside all day, the hours don't equate to what I'm doing in a regular job. It don't equate, you know what I'm saying? Like it's too much time for the little bit of money, but then I'm fighting for every hustler, every dollar to get, you know what I'm saying? And it's like it's not equating to the point where always somebody always gonna have a little bit better work or the same work as you. So the scene ain't never gonna be loyal. You booked the scene, I don't have a job on that fly. I'm I I this is a long time in the hole, me thinking, and a long time in the hole, me thinking.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, well, I'm glad you I'm glad you out, man. Uh you listen, man. It's a it's the weekend, you got a job now, man. Stay free, man. Stay safe. Yeah, man. Thanks for calling in, man. Enjoy your night, bro.

SPEAKER_08

You already know. Y'all take it easy.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, we uh cooked that thing till the oil was bad. Then man, put it on the block.

SPEAKER_02

It was very wrong.

SPEAKER_03

Make very wrong. Make it say you know extremely wrong. They shifting it up. Yeah, man, ain't ten niggas by doing none of that. Yeah, yeah. But um, yeah, my thing is, you know. But that was just the times that we was in. That was just our mind state of what we were thinking at that time. Not glorifying it, but it was wrong. It was wrong. But you know, we figured out a method at that time to make it work. You okay? All right, I'm almost done. So, you know, my thing is my my thing is this, man. Everybody listen, man. The weekend is here. Stay free, stay safe. Don't forget to look listen out listen out for us on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, you know, all platforms. Thank everybody for tuning in to tell us from the jails. Don't forget, man, if you if we got about two more minutes before we get up out of here, call us. 215-316-4492. That's 215-316-4492. And uh, and and and this just goes for everybody out there who who out there who may listen to this, because not everybody that's gonna listen to this episode is gonna be happy. So for those who out there who are slandering people, talking about people behind their back, I just want to say one thing. Stop. Just stop, man. Just stop, man. Please. That's it, man. And um, you know, we gotta we gotta you we gotta hold each other accountable, you know, especially when we wrong. Somebody's wrong, especially, I'm gonna tell you something, man. If if somebody does something wrong and it goes against what you believe in, you gotta call a spade a spade. You can't try to mix the streets in with and what you believe in. You can't try to mix the two because they don't go to what go together. You know what I mean? Whatever you believe in, you can't mix the streets in because it don't go together. So you gotta stand on the truth. You know what I'm saying? And we gotta be mindful, man. We can't be out here just moving reckless and you know, and taking advantage of the week. Anything else you want to say? It's the weekend.

SPEAKER_02

I'm gonna say what I say to you every Friday. And look, this is an extended weekend.

SPEAKER_03

Monday is a holiday. Shout out to Anthony.12 with the $99, $99, 99 cent donation. Man, thank you, man. Shout out to you, man.

SPEAKER_02

Mm-hmm. Shout out to you, man. It's the weekend, man. Be mindful of your actions, man. Be mindful of your circumference, everything that's around you. Be mindful of the kids that you may be out there with, man. Be mindful of your lady. Be mindful of yourself. First and foremost, be mindful of yourself. If you're not mindful of yourself, you don't give a damn about nothing going on around you.

SPEAKER_03

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SPEAKER_08

My name Malik. I'm from I'm from West Philly.

SPEAKER_03

Shout out to you, Malik. Shout out to West Philly. What's up, bro? What's going on?

SPEAKER_08

Ain't nothing. I just was calling y'all to give y'all y'all flowers, man. I've been rocking with y'all for like a couple months on some every day type shit.

SPEAKER_04

Appreciate that, man. Appreciate that, man.

SPEAKER_08

Just want to give y'all y'all flowers. Keep doing y'all thing. Y'all hold me down. I'm on my way out hard more right now. Just tune in in.

SPEAKER_02

I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_08

Doing y'all thing, man.

SPEAKER_02

And keep doing your thing, bro. Keep doing your thing. Mm-hmm. And thank you for the support, man. And enjoy your weekend, bro. And remember, Sky. Yep.

SPEAKER_08

Thank you, bro. You are ready.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, y'all stay free this weekend. Stay safe.