PLACING ACCUSATIONS AGAINST SOMEONE WITHOUT PROOF: TALES FROM THE JAILS LIVE!!!

TALES FROM THE JAILS LIVE!!! The host speak about the consequences of placing accusations against a person without proof. This a major NO NO while incarcerated placing homosexual, snitch, and thief accusations against someone without proof can be deadly.

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SPEAKER_05 1:16

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SPEAKER_05 2:03

What's up, what's up, what's up, everybody? Tales from the jails. We're here live in Pope's USA TNS Media Group with the team and the family. We here got my counterpart, Mr. Braheem Jackson. You know what I mean? A little bit of a uh, you know, a late start today. Um we apologize, y'all. We just you know had some things going on.

SPEAKER_06 2:23

Man, it's Friday. When the heat is out, the meat is out. I don't do that. That's just it. I'm out here coming in here just now, and it was like, mm, it feels so good to be free. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_05 2:33

For sure, I I hear that. So what's up, everybody? Got seven in Wolf in here. Nate Nate the G uh Nate the G 3590 Ty I Tyus. Hopefully I'm saying that right. 98. You know, Key Smiles 40 oh uh 40 O W T Y. Hopefully I'm saying that that right. You know what I mean? Got everybody in here. KK uh Twin Gang 2763 Naya, Fearless, 6958. We're gonna keep going, keep keeping going, keep it going. Uh Master Legend 23, shout out to you too as well. And as we keep going on, so you know, uh, you know, to you know, we got some some things um uh going on. I'm gonna ask you a question, right? So when somebody comes home from prison, right? Somebody gets out of jail, is it befitting at the servant alone or I'll say this when somebody comes comes home from jail, right? Right, are they to be greeted in such a uh a positive manner or a celebratory manner for does it matter the amount of time they do, or is it was it was it just something that you know that should be done? Do you do you agree with these type of things? Celebrating people come home from jail?

SPEAKER_06 3:50

Um me, I'm a uh uh uh ex-convict, and for the men, it don't matter what how much time you did in my book, I only can answer from my point of view. Yeah, me, I'm celebrating the man that came home from jail. If he stood on integrity, if he took, he he took ownership, he took accountability that we talk about all the time up here. Okay, whether he did one year, 10 years, 20 years, he stood on his, and I know him. Even if I didn't know him, and I heard about it, you see how you be. You hear a good man that came home. I can tell you about one of my homies that just came home, he did nothing. You like, for real? He got some money or something like that you be ready to hit a hand and you don't even know him. Why? Because you you honor the integrity that this man did this time. He went in there, he kept his mouth shut, you know, he did whatever he did to get in there, and he took accountability. He took it like a man and then came home. So I feel as though that they should be, you know, applauded and celebrated and then helped out as far as in, you know, I ain't necessarily saying giving him wise of cash, but you know, help point him in that right directions where he can get his own cash or get his own house, own vehicle. Yeah, them men need, I feel as though they should be assisted in getting back acclimated with society. Yes.

SPEAKER_05 4:58

Well, I'm saying, like the you know, these uh big caravans, all types of, you know, people get cars and big dinners, yes, all that. Yes, yeah. I agree too. I agree that it's more especially especially for a dude to spend a lot of time in.

SPEAKER_06 5:09

Hey, dude been in there 27, 28 years, 24 years, man, and you know he stood up, yeah, man. Honor that, man. Man, take it, tilt that head to him. Yeah, you know, I'm and it's not, I'm not saying it like you'll be glorifying, he may have killed people or this and that. Whatever he did, he went through his trial and tribulation and kept it to himself and carried that burden all the way to the door. Yeah, I honor that, man. Me, I now everybody might be like, no, yeah, whatever you know, a personal opinion is on it, that's their opinion. My opinion, I am a man and I've been through that, and I got to honor the next man to walk that same road I walk. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 5:44

Because, you know, with these things, right? A lot of times people look at it and say, Well, y'all glorifying a person who was breaking law, coming back to the society, which possibly can lead them to breaking law, they'll be breaking law again. Um nine times out of ten. Why I was glorifying a criminal a criminal. What do you say to that? What say that again? Like, you know, some people may look at it like a person coming home from jail, and everybody doing all the big parties, the block parties, the big dinners, the the uh the vehicles and the the caravan cars coming to pick them up, and you know, everybody out there saluting them, and they this person may have been found guilty of breaking law. Of course, he found guilty of breaking law. Right. People like you, you're glorifying a criminal, you you are supporting a criminal.

SPEAKER_06 6:26

See, they they got their wrong, it's no, you're honoring it. We're not celebrating what he was locked up for. We're celebrating him making it out of his trials and tribulations without no stains on him. Okay, that's what it is for me. Okay, I'm not good. And what's a stain though? What do you think about it? A stain or toad had sex with a boy, told in there on uh another convict, because you got jailhouse smitches too. These are type of stains that you have on you. But I'm I'm honoring a man.

SPEAKER_05 6:52

So I'm so if he if he has sex with a boy, all that stuff is void. If it's like if it's known that he was in the mess with a boy, is that void?

SPEAKER_06 6:59

Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, definitely. It's non-void if he did that or whatever the case may be, told on somebody in there, stole from somebody in there, all his character goes down the drain. Oh, so if he stole, yeah. If he stole, he's you, you, you stealing is a no-no in jail, bro. That's like damn near ratting. The whole unit turns on you. So if you got 180 people in a unit and you get caught stealing, your homies beat you up, the homies that you stole from beat you up. You are outcasts. You worse than being a rat, bro.

SPEAKER_05 7:33

All right, so but I'm saying, so in order for a person to get uh uh their past revoke for coming home and be to be celebrated, they had to they had to steal. Uh had the what was it, a thief in jail, or they had to, you know, been a rat, or they had to be, you know, in a relationship with another another man in prison. Yes. But what if what if it's what if it's not verified? So if it's not verified, what if it's a speculation that he oh he was a thief in there, he stole in there, he was oh well.

SPEAKER_06 7:56

Yeah, it's not verified. That's not you can't stand on that. It got to be verified. It got to be really he running around here stealing, he running around here telling, he running around here having sex with men. You got to you got to verify that. You got to verify you can't bring no accusations on no man unless you got the solid proof. Okay, and you just word of mouth, not to say that you can't take a person's word because you got some honorable men that when they speak, you know, they word is like law for real. Okay, like like like this, you know this man's character, you know his character, you know he ain't a messy person, you know he ain't a gossiper, and you know he's not even the one that'll put something out there like that. You know, we got a couple homies like that, as far as yourself, a couple other brothers that's like that. You know, if they say something, you be like, you'll take that to the bank. If he came and said he did that, yeah, you're gonna be like, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 8:41

Yeah. So I'm asking this though. So what so alright, speculation, all right, he stole, but nobody never it's been it's been brought up that he stole, but nobody never actually saw him still, right? Right. But multiple people are saying that he stole, but it's still no evidence to say that he did that he did that, right?

SPEAKER_06 9:01

Like you said, so basically that's like See had nine times out of ten, you're never gonna have evidence of a person stealing. It got to be like one of them drones, like everybody identified the culprit. Like, no, it's this nigga that's doing it. Because it's still unless you're catching Ray, you know, a thief is a thief. Yeah, you ain't gonna find out, but you could you gonna know a little thing. Who we all went to child just now. Who was left on the block? It was such and such on the block, such and such, black feet. They was the only ones left on the block when we went to dinner. So now you bull in the damn. Now it was somebody else on the block that don't eat child because he got a lot of comments. Yeah, I seen bull go in that server. It's gonna come out. I'm talking about boy, it's gonna come out. It's gonna I had a situation to where is the one time, a little story time. I was out in Victorville, California. And I had a homie named uh Devil. Devil, you know, they all Crips out there. They all, you know, uh Baby Devil. They got like baby G thing, baby B thing, and all that, and B D thing and all that. All these dudes, they be Crips. And Devil was crazy, a little burnt out, scared a little dude. And it was a dude there, they call him uh Rick. That's supposed to have been, you know, uh the stepson of uh the boy Ricky Rolex. So whatever, whatever. I don't I'll be the Rick Ross, the real Rick Ross. Okay, not Rick Ross that rap, the dope boy Rick Ross, you know. From my I don't know where he's from, but that's supposed to have been his stepson. Yeah. So while we was in there, you know, he he comes to me. He like, yo, the boy Rick, the devil come to me and say, Man, this boy is soft. And this name, you know, Rick was like, he he he was soft. He was a dude with a dude with some money. I mean, and you know, he didn't throw his weight around, but he was soft. Like he might know how not know how to say the right thing around men. Like he he be uh he he don't be subconscious of what he's saying. Like we all might be around and he might be eating, he's like, Man, this joint good as hell, man. I mean niggas ain't got this over, but he playing around. But the minute that's broken fucked up, like, what do you mean niggas ain't got that? You'll turn people the wrong way, yeah. And that's how he was, right? But he's a coward, you know what I'm saying? So devil, like, yeah, I'm about to go in there and rob his cell. He was getting weed in. Okay. And that one day, devil had went to his cell that purchased some weed, right? And devil seen that he was putting the weed inside a Folgers container because we could buy commissary off a coffee off commissary, Folgers, Keefy, and all that. And he was putting it in there and like mixing it in, the weed in like a little ball. So if a guard shake down and look at that, you won't even know unless you pour it all out. That's when you'll know something is in there. But he was hiding his sack in there, and the sack, which is the weed. We all go to child, devil goes in the man's cell and steals it and brings it to my cell. I'm thinking he ain't gonna do it. I go to child, whatever, come back. He like, yo, that joint up in your room. I'm like, for real. So we go up in my room. I'm like, he geeks, he put he pulls it from there. He like, yo, I'm like, dang, you went there and took that joint cuzz. He like, man, fuck that nigga, man. We gonna go. Man, I ain't gonna lie, we up in there blowing the tree now. Yo, so you can't. Yeah, I was like, you took it, not me. We in there blowing. I'm in the vent, all on some goofy time. And I don't I don't condone this, say, dude, stay away from drugs, everybody. This is just what I was doing during my times of doing a lot of time in the penal system. Yeah, but yeah, we blow him. So, like a couple days go past, he's not even saying nothing. Like, we seen how he act, like he just like keeping it cool, but then he goes back and tell another big time crip nigga, like, yeah, somebody stole the weed out of the cell. Like, hey, this nigga had like a whole hand, like when I say a hand, like you know how you get the little plastic gloves that you gotta serve people their food with and all that. He was using the glove as a stash pot. He was filled, all fingers was full of weed. Yeah, it was it had to be at least like three, four ounces. And for you to have three, four ounces at one time in a prison, you you big time. Yes, you big man on campus. Yeah, and he was like, you know, me, if I'd have got stolen, somebody took my weed. I came back from the unit, probably ready to go roll up and smoke or something, and I go to my stash and it's gone. Oh, when I come out that cell, it's up. It's up. I'm like, yo, which one of you bitch ass niggas been in my cell? Which one is up? I'm trying to find out. But he was just, and the whole time I know his weed stolen because I just got done smoking it. Devil, like, yeah, fucking this and that. So now it's getting like as days going, like it was like three, four days before everybody knew his weed got stolen. But being though, he's a coward, niggas wasn't looking at it like, yo, man, we gotta get the thief. Because niggas already was hating on him. He was like, you know what I mean? Even though he ain't told him nobody, but he just was soft. And then he be acting like something that niggas just didn't so that that that thievery got, you know, it got it got it got covered up. Meaning like niggas ain't want on double ass because they ain't fuck with him anyway. You know what I'm saying? Then they was all Crips. But I'm in the cell, like, damn, devil, you got that in my cell. Like, man, man, you gripping that man. He like, man, F that nigga and this and that, this and that, man. We but he rolling up, and you know, we got we gotta stand in the chair and getting the vents where you don't have because you know you got a vent in each cell that takes air out the cell, and then there's another vent that blows air in the cell. So if you at the vent that's sucking in, you smoking it, and all the smoke just going through the vent. So you would smell a little lingering uh uh uh smell of marijuana, but it won't be like if we just in the cell, just sitting on the bed smoking, yeah, and it's all cloudy, it's going out into you know wherever it goes, the vent outside.

SPEAKER_05 14:03

Let me ask you question. Now you mentioned you mentioned Keefe. Keefe products is in the feds, too? Yeah, if it was in the county.

SPEAKER_06 14:08

No, that's in the feds too. Keefe, kifey is the shit. Keefe, yellow bag.

SPEAKER_05 14:13

In jail, my name holds more weight than the board Keefe.

SPEAKER_06 14:15

Heavy, Keefe, Keefe product, Keefe is in the yes, it's in the feds.

SPEAKER_05 14:19

So hold on, let's go back. So now you're blowing in the vent to bull, but bull didn't he didn't he didn't he didn't say nothing to y'all ever about it? He never bring it up.

SPEAKER_06 14:25

No, it came it came out and then he came to Devil. He came to me, right? But what happened was Devil been wanting to rob him. I'm like, no, Devil, he looking because he he really hit my hand. Like I come to him like, yo, three, four people want some weed. They all got $50 to send your girl on the street. You know me, how they do it in there. So he he, you know, he's looking out for him. He gives me little stashes for myself because I'm making sales for him, whatever. Yeah, and but devil been telling me the ball is a sucker and this and that, this and that. So I'm in the cell with him one day, right? Me, Rick, and somebody else is buying weed off of him. Devil outside the cell, just he always be on some sneaky stuff. He comes up to the cell, knocks on the door. But as he knocks on the door, I'm like, damn, devil, because I told him, like, what would you up here for? Like, I'm coming out there to holler. But he at the bull cell. Yeah, but as he at the cell, and I'm saying something to him, Rick behind me, Rick looking at him, telling him, like, don't say nothing around me about something. Yeah, so when they don't, when everything's over and we go to our own little cells, and I'm like, yo, you gotta chill, man. He like, yo, you keep taking up for that coward. While you was talking to me, that nigga was behind your back, talking about don't tell you nothing. I'm like, for real? But I know the nigga a sucker, he'd do something like that. Yeah, something like he did that. I'm like, yeah, go take his stuff, man. I'm like, go get him. I ain't got nothing. Yeah, I'm like, I'm mad. Like, damn, I'm bringing you money and all that, and you treat me like a sucker. Yeah, man. Devil went in there and took that whole goddamn folders container. It was about three ounces of me. We smoked that joint for about two weeks, man. We wanted then a couple other big crip homies was mad about it. They really couldn't do that, they could discipline Devil because he from Cali. They all these niggas is Crips from Cali. So what kind of discipline is like a fight beat up? No, or checking men or or because Rick ain't gonna rumble. He gonna have to rumble. Like this, it's called DP. DP is discipline. You know what I'm saying? So he ain't wanna do nothing. It was just like, but niggas that was on Rick's side, like, they using him. They was mad that they ain't never get a chance to take it from him. So they back in this place, he's gonna get another sack in eventually. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? But they trying to show that they standing with him, so when he do get something again, he can look out for niggas. But so that it was a it was a it went, it didn't go, it didn't go the way that it usually go when somebody gets caught stealing, because the devil would have died, damn near died because of the nigga who it was against. So you understand what I'm saying? Did that make sense? Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 16:36

So let's go to the homosexuality aspect, right? In jail. Like, how do you prove that? Like, how somebody says somebody was in jail dealing with a homosexual, um, how do they prove that they was in jail dealing with a homosexual? Because like, all right, he keeps he home now, but he was up there messing with these men. How do they prove that?

SPEAKER_06 16:54

Um, you you you can't you is the only way you can prove that somebody was dealing with boys if you see them on the yard walking together hand in hand, kissing, you know, because you don't know what I'm doing, and you know, dudes ain't out getting hit on the yard. Like you walking past and you seeing some cheeks clapping. No, then you'll see dudes in the yard laid up with their chicken with a boy and all that. If you ain't seeing that, then until I see something of this nature, I can't call you no homosexual. So how do they how do they come up with these speculations and say no? Because some niggas might be standing on what they doing.

SPEAKER_05 17:27

Be with their boy. But I'm saying, like, say all right, say for example, it's somebody we might know, right? They might say, all right, he was messed with mess with boys in there, but people are saying this, but it hasn't been any evidence, but they had to have evidence in order for them to say that though.

SPEAKER_06 17:42

It's just see the way you're looking at it is crazy. It's like it's a it's a crazy drum. Like you got the like it's certain men that can say certain things, and you know they ain't gonna lie. People be at other jails, but it be just a bunch of unless you see it, you actually see, you know they in the cell, they in their lovers and all that, and this and that. Because they call me gay. They say I'm gay. I ain't never I play games and have and do talk little things, but I ain't never one do nothing with no boy, and I ain't never did nothing with no boy. And I don't knock the gays who do that. That's what they do. I just choose to do something. Uh I like women. So you know I ain't gay. I ain't running around here sucking no trumpy. But hold on. Oh my god, you're talking about something not on duty, behold. But you really like for one to make that that that final decision, you you can't make that decision unless you actually like in our religion, right? And let me know if I because you know sometimes I be I'll be giving up the quotes. If your woman, your wife is accused of adultery, you she cannot be accused. In my and let me know if I'm wrong, unless there are two different witnesses that seize the penis enter the vagina. That's how you know this religion of ours is so beautiful because it's damn near impossible to prove you. If you let two different people see you, you deserve to be stoned or left or divorced. So it's so the the the the criteria of catching somebody doing that is so hot, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, like let alone one person seen, but two different, yeah. Come on, bro. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, it it just be crazy, man. A lot of people get a lot of names in there, man. You see, last week the nigga used my name and said, Yeah, Braheem, that's the same Brahim that told on Tyoga in Germantown Avenue. I'm damn West Philly. I ain't never been up no goddamn Tyoga in Germantown. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, all the you know, speculations and talk, man, you know, in men, men accommodate on it with other men. But I they won't go and spread it. Or come to someone's face and say, I saw you doing that, I know you're talking about it.

SPEAKER_05 19:38

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I mean, so yeah. But stitch snitching is too, but why, but snitching is like if somebody says somebody's snitching, you can't hide that because it's gotta be paperwork on it that's that proves that that shows that you told. Like somebody, it's my if I say you told, I'll have to get the paperwork to prove that I can't say that. Otherwise, there will be consequences behind that.

SPEAKER_06 19:58

Exactly.

SPEAKER_05 19:58

Big time consequences. Is it the same thing saying somebody is a thief or a homosexual?

SPEAKER_06 20:02

Yes, yes. Same thing. If you ain't got the proof on that and you call a man gay, yeah, you you you will get your ass handed to you, bro. If you ain't got no proof, you can't see that a lot of times, man, niggas leave that shit alone, just be like, yeah, that nigga on ass. That ain't looked at like telling. Tell him I'm gonna get you off the yard. See, when you on ass, it's just like, all right, we he over there on his stuff. Telling is like, oh no, that's he gotta get out of here. You over there sucking a champion. No, duty. Nigga, like, man, leave that nigga over here to his own devices. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's terrible. So, you know, you know what I mean? It's terrible.

SPEAKER_05 20:35

So, you know, this you know, this whole uh you know thing about people going to jail and having these these uh these I'll say these strikes, strikes against their actual character or their their individuality, whatever you want to call it, they had to be proven without a doubt, basically, without doubt, in order for you to say that this person was doing this. So for those out there who say, all right, who spread a rumor about a person, right? You spread a rumor, you you may call you know anybody and say, oh, this person, this person is doing this, person was on that, person was doing this. You know, you have to bring your evidence and your proof is the proofs before you can say that a person is a certain way. And I and I totally I agree with that. Yeah, I can't go against that because I feel like somebody can say anything. It's my own.

SPEAKER_06 21:19

Because the closest the only thing, the the the the the most successful thing of assassinating a man's character, especially a man that's in prison and doing a lot of time, and you can't beat him, you can't do nothing with him, is the spread of rumor. Oh, he's oh he oh he he's sucking a chumpy. No duty. Like it's been a lot of me. Like I said, I play all the time. I might play little games, but tight ass playing to him in that ass is fat, but I don't want no, I just I'm raw with my playing. And motherfuckers might look at it, like, oh, I'm little freaky. Yeah, I ain't freaky at all. I love meet some women like cotty with the body and cotty with the body. You know what I mean? I'm saying, you know what I mean? But I am I don't want his body, he can keep that. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, what's up with it, Cottie?

SPEAKER_05 22:07

Yeah, boy, crazy. But yeah, man.

SPEAKER_06 22:10

It's starting to burn up in this job, too.

SPEAKER_05 22:15

But the thing about it is, you know, uh these these these uh you have to have uh proof of evidence is when you accuse somebody of something. Yes. All right, let's get to something else, man. Because a lot of times, I don't know, that that might not it might that might help out. A lot of times we get this too, right, man. And I I know I know these subjects be a little touchy. You got a homie in jail, right? He get mad at you for whatever reason. He gets upset with you. He calls home, he's belligerent, saying things to you that he shouldn't say, that you fail to take offense to, um, and you you know understand his situation, and he might be t he could be totally wrong. Do you give him a pass?

SPEAKER_06 22:57

Um I don't even know, bro. I ain't do you give him a pass?

SPEAKER_05 23:01

I'm saying because I mean I mean, we've I we've we have had like I had I had people like that that I had a cousin, my cousin one time, he got mad at me. He was in he was in in the county one time. So um lawyer, this lawyer had it had to be paid. But I'm out of town. And I'm like, yo, um, I'm out of town, but he but he had to go to court. I'm on a trip. I'm on a trip, so he had to go to court. So I'm like, yo, I'm gonna uh take care of it. You know, when I get back, like he called me. I answer the phone, like I like I'm out of town, like, damn man, you gonna go out of town knowing I gotta do this and I gotta do that. Damn, you just gonna leave me hanging. You know some nuts stuff, man. He's just saying all types of stuff. I'm on the phone listening to him. He going, he going crazy. But I I'm like, I'm thinking about his situation, and I kind of gave him a pass. But he said some stuff to me that was like that was I thought was crazy. But I gave him a pass because I'm like, I he in the situation that he that he's in. But honestly, I don't really, I ain't really owe him nothing, really. I'm he got caught doing something somewhere else. Yeah, not dealing with me, but somewhere else doing something, yeah. Ain't have no lawyer money, no bell money, no nothing, and was calling me to do something for him, but I told him I was gonna do it. But mind you, I'm already and then before that he told me my lawyer and stuff already already cool, whatever. But he called me last minute, like, yo, I'm already on, I'm already ready to go on vacation, bro.

SPEAKER_06 24:21

Yeah, he's an ungrade now. It all depends only. You know how that conversation went. If it was disrespecting them words and all this and that, you gotta cut a person off like they selfish. Yeah, they self, they extremely selfish. If it was disrespect, if it was any type of bringing up things that you did in the past or what's going on with you, and telling you that like it, you ain't you're sober, you're not drunk. I can give you a passion. You might be drunk in there, though. Nah, but nah, nine times you get drunk in there, but no, no, no. You know who you know, I mean you you you getting that far if you in between. You know what I'm saying? And and and if a person displayed these actions to you, man, and they talking crazy, and when I'm saying crazy, calling you bitches, uh, or putting certain things out there, and it's like, it's no, it's no gray area with that, bro. There's no gray area. It's either white or black, man. It's either white or black. But do you give them a pass? No. Do you forgive them? No. Really? But I can forgive, but I won't never forget. And I'm still separating myself from you. I won't want to see nothing harm happen to you or nothing like that. I don't want you to die. I ain't trying to kill you, but I can no longer be a companion of yours. No longer. Why is it, why is it?

SPEAKER_05 25:25

Do you think that for me? Well, I'll say what I'll say what I think. I think that a lot of times people in jail are calling home looking for ease because they're already on edge, right? Yes, yeah. I think that so the little the something's off, like something that's bad happened, it just takes them, it could take them either to a uh uh uh uh angry rage or an emotional molecule.

SPEAKER_06 25:48

No, Pete. No, it's certain things. Sometimes no, no times. It's no bro. You know how many times I've been enraged and talked to you, bro, on that phone, bro? You know how many times I've been out my damn mouth, drunk talking to you on the phone, and I never disrespected you on that phone, bro. Yeah, you know how many times I called you and you ain't have it, and you think I'm I'm on a hot beam, and I ain't never said to you, man, damn fuck you, nigga. Listen, no. When you got shit going on like that, man, it's something else there, bro. It's something else there, it's something. You might not know what it is, but there is something else there. The selfish character kicks out, kicks in selfish uh mentality. So now you gotta look at it, and this this is on the scale of life, you know, because you right there in the trip net and you in jail, that's something so my new. So imagine when he comes home and you try to put him onto something on so much bigger, and where this can go if he's upset. Nah, bro. And then if you do put him, you got yourself to blame because he should what you tell me. Believe a person when they tell you who they are or show you who they are. I believe I love them words that you taught me. So, like when a person show you who they are, and you go back, and somehow you can't be mad at nobody in the world but yourself. You can't even be mad at that person for doing it to you because you know better. You know better, and that's just it.

SPEAKER_05 27:06

You know, because uh we've all experienced that a lot of times with you know a person close to you. Because we talk about we talk about women all the time, women do it, but women sometimes can be right next to you and talk to you in a crazy manner, and then we may forgive them and they may say some stuff to you that's out of the out of this world, but we sit, we sit there with them and we forgive them.

SPEAKER_06 27:27

See, but a woman, you know, I don't give a woman no pass, but I gotta give them a slight a woman deal with emotions, men deal with pride. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Women, that's the what they did. This is their weapon. Like, this is the weapon on a woman, her mouth. That's her tool. Like, I can't argue a woman, can you? Hell no. Boy, I'm trying about I shuts down and be like, ah, as soon as a woman gets that, I got that slamming door. I can't beat no woman in arguing. Yeah, I'm trying to as soon as I get a lose, especially when I'm arguing in a text message, I'm really dead. Yeah. So, but a man don't conduct himself in that manner. You see, usually when you see couples arguing and men, if he ain't whooping her ass, he like ignoring it because he can't beat it all. Yeah, motherfucker, he just gone, yeah. No, the first thing we do is flee. Yeah, because we don't know how to do that. You sitting there going back and forth. She's like, Yeah, because you broke the yeah, bitch, you dirty. You got women's traits, cuz.

SPEAKER_05 28:18

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Some sometimes men be having female traits be with the arguing. Some men is real good at arguing, real good at trying to find a uh a PowerPoint. When I say a PowerPoint, that's trying to say the most heinous things to you, even if it ain't true. Don't make you feel some type of way.

SPEAKER_06 28:37

They call my woman call me broke. You broke. It brought bothers me. It bothers me. It bothers me bad. When we get to argue, I mean you broke ass nigga, but that's the first thing you go to. And then broke don't mean all the time just absolutely put on the street bumping all. It might be because of You can't take a trip right now. Yeah, I'm broke though. I just paid the bills, though. But but we can't take this trip, but I'm broke. Because other people are girlfriends, and you know that a lot of things, yeah, girl, we just came back from that. We just had, and she's looking at you. We ain't went nowhere. And I feel it. I'll be like, damn, I hate. My man just did that the other day. We on the phone, I got him on speaker. I'm running. So he like, uh, yeah, uh, yeah, we was at a picnic of uh TY. He like, we had a picnic, man. I spent about 400 hours, man, on grubber. I'm sitting there and I peek out the side of my eye, and I'm like this. And she like, I'm like, damn. I take it off, I take it off speaker now. Yeah, but see you always see you always get up here, man, and play, bro. Can you feel it though? Yeah, yeah, I bet that. And you like, damn. I'm trying to hurry up and take it off speaker. She like, yeah, I can't out the bed as soon as I hang up, but why? Yeah, friend, you're like, why am I? And I'm like, and then for real for you to sit in there, like, damn, all right.

SPEAKER_05 29:51

This joint's uh like yeah, that stuff hurt. Like it does hurt worse coming from your homie or from your your girl? Which one hurt worse?

SPEAKER_06 29:57

Coming from your girl. Your homie, I don't care because we we know each other. Yeah, I mean, we we gonna do this to for to the wheels fall off. I'm actually at what age is is homies too old to rumble? Like, we ain't rumble, like we like now. No, no, no, no, I'm sorry. It ain't no no we can rumble till we're 50, 60 years old, bro. Yeah, we can rumble, we can rumble right now on the pair. We can rumble. Ain't nothing wrong with it.

SPEAKER_05 30:18

Rumbling is straightening. Is that like across the line? Yo, he's rumbling, that's crossing the line. No, it's but or what's it's wrong if I just hold about to steal you.

SPEAKER_06 30:26

Yeah, if you hold off and steal me, yeah, and I'm your homie. Yeah, but if we out there going back and forth, we already know it's here.

SPEAKER_05 30:33

Like the other day, we was at we was playing ball. My dad is a rubber.

SPEAKER_06 30:36

Yeah, I'm sitting there like rubber, rubber, his homie. Yeah, and they both 80. It's cool for that. That's it's that's cool. You see him, your dad leaving there because he mad, he can't carry a goddamn five-pound chair. He is back. I'm like, this old man out here still trying, but it's cool to do that. And I bet you they cool right now. I bet you they didn't talk now anything. They got over 30, 40 years of friendship, and it's just that day, shit was going bad. So yeah, it ain't no age limit on when we can't or can rumble. We can rumble 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70. Yes, I'm I'm with all that. I think sometimes it got to be some straightening.

SPEAKER_05 31:13

I think because it may not what happens, like you know, like say, like, say me and you gotta be here rumble, right? The chance that it's gonna be a it's gonna be a um a high chance I might I might knock you out. All right, that's cool though, but you might love you. So if I knock you out, you go you gonna be cool with that?

SPEAKER_06 31:26

Yeah, I'm waking up and I'm trying to do it again. Okay, all right. I'm getting right up. No, run back to him back, shaking the little cobwebs off and all that. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, I mean, then you you mean it's just see with me, I'm a different type of man. It's just certain people, my my brothers like with you. I'm it's certain I would rumble you, I would knock you out or whatever, but it's certain, I'm not gonna take it. Oh, if I couldn't knock you out, I'm gonna try to do it. But listen, but it's certain, I would never go to a certain limit with you. Never, never, like a regular nigga out in the street, and I might be rumming and bite his ear. I would never do that. I'm gonna give you these though. Yeah, I mean, but all that, yeah, but all that. Like, I'm trying to really harm you and detach things from you up. Nah, but everybody can't like you know, they can't get over that.

SPEAKER_05 32:11

I I lump live, because listen, some things might happen, but we grown might knock a tooth.

SPEAKER_06 32:15

So what we grown though, we grown, we gonna laugh about it. Well, as soon as we get to arguing about something, like two, like a month. I'll be like, all right, man, go ahead, man. See it straightening. Now we ain't doing arguing no more. I mean, we cool. Yeah, you know what happened last time. Because we start, but what it's a bravado, people start getting that chest poke though. You know how listen, yeah, niggas feel good, especially if you put him down and all that. If I knocked you out, me and you were here rumbling, I dropped you twice. Say two months go past, we cool, we back cool again. We get to argue on the way up here to the studio. I'm like eight feet. But you know the eight feet because like you you remember. I'm not gonna have to say, do you remember? I'm like, yo, you know what that means. Like, you're gonna think automatically back to that last rumble. Yeah, especially if we already arguing right then. I'm eight feet. You're like, it's straightening, it's straightening.

SPEAKER_05 33:03

Yeah, so but people people come home or come or uh go to jail, do they have these, these, these, these, these, uh, these outbursts, these uh, these unfortunate, you know, temper uh tantrums. It's almost like emotional, like, like, like, like a female. And I for me, I think that you gotta give them a pass to a certain degree because they're in an oppressive situation. So you gotta give them like kind of like a pass. But you gotta check them too, though, man. You gotta check them. Like, you gotta be checked. You can't be coming up talking crazy and all that. You can't just be going 90 north about whatever it may be, somebody do something for you or somebody, whatever the case is, but you can't be doing that because now you you now you're in guidelines to get checked, and I mean I answer the phone for you for a day. Because you out of pocket. You you you went too far. You know what I mean? But at the end of the day, these things happen. You know what I mean? So whenever like like like you were saying, like whenever, whenever these phone calls come in, right? Um, like I said, you might give them a day. Is that warrant to give them like a day that not don't answer the phone phone for a couple days or whatever the case maybe?

SPEAKER_06 34:07

Bro, for a person, see it all depends on how it went. It all depends on how it went for me, bro. If it's with me, and and it all depends. Because there's like I'm not gonna, me, I'm I'm never gonna disrespect a person like that that I love and care about. I'm never gonna do that, bro. I don't care how how how drunk. I'd have been drunk as hell talking. Now I don't condone drinking, y'all. This is back in my little, we just keeping it real up here. How many times I done called you mad drunk, bro? And still kept it decent. Still kept, I might have called you all types of punks and shit like that, but I don't care about that. You can call me that all day long. Yeah. But when you start getting into personal business and screaming personal things and and then you dick eating this, like that, that, that, that, it's uh it's certain lines that can't be crossed, bro. Even if I was the givea page. But is that worse than fighting though? Yeah, bro. I'd rather you rumble me. If I'm coming to you, say I know a certain situation about you, and I'm mad about something that you ain't do for me, and I come to you and I'm bringing that up and I'm like, yeah, I ain't, bro, that's out of pocket, bro. I'd rather you rumble me, bro. For real, bro. I'd rather me, me and you rumble, because now we're gonna be back cool again. Now we respect each other a little bit more than we had the respect last time. I'ma have a little bit more respect because if I did something like, oh shit, damn, he put them paws on a nigga ass. I'm just a man, bro. But for me to to be exploiting your laundry to you in a manner like, yeah, nigga, nah, bro. Nah, bro. Nah, bro. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 35:35

And then it just, and then sometimes people get mad and spread false narratives and false things about a person. Like in prison when they might get bad, get mad at you and say, you know, some spread some false narratives about you, man. And shout out to uh Pi May 215 for the uh the donation, man. I appreciate it. Appreciate it. And um, you said uh good brothers, keep up the uh enlightening of the collective supporting you cats 100%. This is Sharif This is Sharif you spoke to the other night. Sharif, I'm trying to think where I know you from, man. And uh shout out to uh Reduvalt uh for becoming a member, man. Hopefully I read everything right, man. My uh my vision a little off.

SPEAKER_06 36:16

But yeah, man, these these things uh happen at a woman rate, but shout out to Leaf Ward too, man. Leaf Ward be home. I just got a text message from he said he'd be home in November and he's coming up here. We're gonna have a special joint for y'all with him. Shout out to Leaf Ward, hurry up and make it home, man.

SPEAKER_05 36:29

Yeah, shout out to Leaf Ward, be out here soon. But the thing about it too, man, on another level is uh we we get to the point now uh when we we know each other forever. You know somebody forever, and some of us go to jail, some of us don't go to jail. But we gotta keep this our friendships intact because at the end of the day, who we stood at the test of time. Everybody's been cool for the longest for for so long. Why are we letting things come between us?

SPEAKER_06 36:55

And and no, but certain things like like certain things ain't supposed to be, it's not letting things come like because you can say certain things to me and I'll be like, I might be mad and be out. Freak, how many times we argue? We argue like we 15, 14 years old still, and I storm off and won't talk to you for two days. I but I'm not gonna say certain things to you, bro. Yeah, I'm just not gonna do it. It's like it's like you make it trying to make a little uh a pass, but like, no, it's certain we meant now. We men, we don't say the things we say to each other when we was kids and didn't know how to control. We grow, we in our 40s, we ready to be dead soon, man. We coming down the hill, bro. We coming down the hill. It's not I'm not I'm never gonna disrespect you in a manner just like that. Come on, bro. I'm calling you a dick sucker or something like that, bro. That's super disrespect, bro. Yeah no, bro. I don't look at you like that.

SPEAKER_05 37:40

That uh that uh what's Carl was saying, like, don't ever invite another man to your private, your private air.

SPEAKER_06 37:44

Like me, me and Shorty. I know, you know, she likes to play that word. Shut your dick eating ass up. And she don't know she she after it's over, but I hit the lid. Fuck you mean like she could say anything to me. You broke, you a bum, you you ain't got this. She can say something dick in because that's a in jail. You mentioned, like you see how they use that so lightly out here, man. You're dick eating ass, man. Get out of here, Dickie. Bro, you say anything to do with a D, yeah, you better be a man. You can't do it. You what? You can't stay out of jail. No, you don't hear that type of talk like how you hear out there in there. And for everybody that's watching, all the people that have been in prison. If y'all ain't agreeing with me, you ain't been in prison. Don't nobody play with that word in there, bro. Come with you, like, yeah, man, you want some, you want some bitch, or you a dickhead. What? Come on, bro. That's the highest of violation, bro. Yeah, and don't nobody be. Somebody might be killed about killed behind that. Yes, and it had been men be killed about that in there. Yes.

SPEAKER_05 38:42

Yes. All right, so that's an easy way. If you ever in jail, you want to get you, you know, get your you know, your issue, you st you invite a man to uh, you know, to that jumpy, that D word, then that ultimately you're gonna be in a situation where you can't even you know get yourself out of. Now I'm gonna ask you this though, right? Person comes home you know, saying these things, or you issues with is this at the time when you see this person, are you are you showing this person love? Like, so say if a person say you had an issue with a person that's in jail, right? Mm-hmm and they come home in the caravan go and pick them up.

SPEAKER_06 39:20

Are you are you riding with the caravan cars? I probably wouldn't ride in the caravan, but I will see that person. I will see the I'm I'm not a malice person, you know me, bro. And for the audience, y'all getting to know me, I'm out my goddamn mind. I'm crazy batshit, but I'm one of the most lovable dudes you'll ever meet in your life, man. My I my my compassion from all the pain that I have suffered through life thus far, life it had it didn't talk me. It make me have appreciation and and a softness like damn man. Like, but certain things like that right there, I I I'm not gonna hold it again, but you're not my friend no more.

SPEAKER_05 39:53

No, we still you you probably gotta still be friends, but you gotta understand who they are.

SPEAKER_06 39:57

No, no, bro. You can't change just because yeah, yes, you can, bro. Nah, bro. If I came, bro, yes, you can, bro. If I got up and slapped the shit out of you right now, we still friends. Yeah, you be still friends. I got up here and did it right on camera. I'm being waiting and I'm gonna do my get mine back. No, no, but still, you but you you won't still get yours back, but I was like, I know, but you ain't gonna be no second game. We playing. Bro, I go I probably be so as shocked.

SPEAKER_05 40:24

You did that. I'm like, they know how you said that time somebody slaps you. You was like, What I like what I do? Like, why what do you do that for? Yeah, it was like that. No, they didn't do that.

SPEAKER_06 40:33

I seen a nigga get slapped and was like, damn, what you do that for? That was his first reaction, like, damn, like, whoa, this man, crazy as hell. Yo, like if you hopped up like because you probably wouldn't even be my guard is still down around you, like I ain't expecting that. Yeah, but for the rest of your life after that, you're gonna look at me with this this this thing. Regardless if you got your slap back, knock me out, all that. You're gonna look at me with this thing, like you're not gonna be comfortable, like you're gonna always have that look at me. Like, bro, if you slap me, I ain't messing with you like that no more, bro. Like, we might still come up, but I'm gonna be sitting there like I'm gonna always think about that, bro. Come on, bro. It's just certain things you don't do to a man, bro.

SPEAKER_05 41:13

Come on, bro. Yeah, he slapped the piss out. It'd be that. So I'm actually questioning what's better. Would you rather somebody slap you or punch you?

SPEAKER_06 41:21

Punch me, punch me all day long. Punch me out at that. You just come up and just especially if you give me a back one. Come on, man. Backhand though. If you're gonna slap me, give me this one. Don't come this way with it, please. Like, bro, come on. That's the all my I'm sitting here, I'm talking to you, and I read my copies. Come on, bro. That's bad, bro. That's super bad, bro. Wrench me out, please. Don't do me like that, bro. Because now I'm out my mind. I want to burn your house down. I want to carve up, yeah, man. Yeah. Yes. So they knock you out. You're like burn nothing down if he knocked you out. Huh? No. No, if you came up with boom, I'm about to wake up like, all right, cool, damn. All right, yeah, we're gonna wet the room. But a slap, bro, a slap. We sitting here talking, you man. I seen men get power slapped, man. Power slap. Like the nigga said, why you do the nigga was so in shock, he's he asked the nigga why you do that. And everybody was just around in shock, too. Damn, like that's something. Come on, bro. He and this uh Brooks from Detroit. Shout out to Brooks that took that slap. Um Brooke, yeah, yeah. Brooke know he's a coward, but listen, uh, the F the brook, yeah. Shout out to you, Brooke. Because you was the hell of a head orderly. Um, this man, bro. Come on, bro. See, every time we on some man shit, man, you up here laughing and shit all the time, man. He said he absorbed the slap. Man, he listen, you ever see how the boxes be fighting in a ring and you see if somebody gets a good shot? Boom, and you see all the sweat down some of the s it was just like that. All you seen was a burst of perspiration, like boom, it was a little spittle, a little bit of sweat. I'm like, dang! And it was one of them joints where everything touched the whole, not just your palm, but the back of your finger, the front of his everything landed on that joint, a solid joint. And I'm like, he didn't go out. No, he just was like, Why you do that? I'm like, dang, power slap, huh? Yeah, not a power punch, but a power he power slapped him in there, bro. Big twiz, stand up, Somerville, stand up, big homie. Stop slapping on people like that. You know you slapped that man. Me and my co-defender were just talking about it the other day. I call him up right now and get him on the show. We'll call him up right now and be like, no. Matter of fact, can we can we call him real fast? No, because I want them to hear from a codifender of mine. Watch out, he said that's the worst man. Can we call him? Can we call him? Yeah, hold up. I want y'all to hear my co-defender tell y'all this story, man. We'll try to get him on the line. I'm I'm gonna try to get him on the line because y'all probably think I'm lying.

SPEAKER_05 43:50

But in the meantime, in the meantime, what we're gonna do is we're gonna start taking ticking calls right now for y'all, man.

SPEAKER_06 43:55

No, don't don't take no calls yet because they everybody no no because they're gonna get they're gonna cut into to no. No, I might not even answer. Not an answer. Not an answer. Not an answer. Not the answer. He's gonna answer. No, no, one of the guys. Yo, Nino, yo, Nino. I'm on the live right now. You hear me?

unknown 44:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 44:10

Hey, yo, listen, I'm about to give you a number. I want you to call right back. I can hear you now. All right, all right. You can hear me now. All right, everybody hear you. All right, Nino. I want you to explain about. I was just telling a story. Everybody see me up here, called you. They know you ain't on the phone with me or nothing. I was telling the story. I want you to tell me about, because you know you did a lot of time. This is my code offender, y'all. Good man. I want you to tell me. Have you ever seen a devastating smack?

SPEAKER_02 44:37

Yeah, yeah, you already know. Who the fuck? It's only one, it's it's it's one that stick out to me like a like yesterday.

SPEAKER_06 44:44

Can you go ahead and explain to the friend to the audience, man? Tell the story, please, man.

SPEAKER_02 44:51

Can I put no names in it or what?

SPEAKER_06 44:54

No, you can put I put the names out there already. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 44:58

All right, well, it's a fucking Sion McKay. They hold me Twiz in Uptown. It's my uh playing band on the basketball court. Playing on a uh full court, playing a he on a team with a dude named uh what's that nigga named Brooks? Brooke, Brooks and shit from whatever. Twiz like a play Twiz a big bull, but he likes to shoot. Like he, I mean, so he shooting, he shooting, shooting his shot. So Brooke, they on the same team. Brooke, man. I mean he's jumping and puffing and all that. His body language all goofy. So he his niggas complained. So Twiz dripping up in the middle, middle of the job, but niggas broke it up. I mean, so uh you know, they only had a few points left for it to get for it to be game over. So once game over, everybody sat down. They I mean whoever won, I don't know who won or whatever, but once the game was over, then everybody sat down. But I'm on a handball course and I'm looking, I can see straight outside. So Brooks went outside. Twins sat down, got a little guy's brother, whatever. He got up and went outside like a friend of the uh barber shop. He talking twins. I just I'm looking at him, though, I'm looking at the whole, you know, strange ass. I see the body language, it looked like, you know, I mean it looked like it's a ghost. I'm keeping my eye on it. So I just see twins, like he's talking with his hands, he's talking with his hands, he just hogged off and snapped. I never just never seen a grown, I never, I probably would never ever see never again in life a grown man get smacked like this. Like I'm all face, I mean all common face, like crazy.

SPEAKER_06 46:30

That was the craziest snack you've ever seen, you know.

SPEAKER_02 46:33

The craziest thing I ever seen. Probably will ever see my like that ever again. Never see another man get smacked like that. And not do nothing without no receptor, nothing. Don't do nothing after that. That was that was made even crazy. Like his first reaction wasn't even in a fight back. He's his first reaction, he turned off, turned around and went to the office.

SPEAKER_05 46:55

Like he would have told me.

SPEAKER_06 47:02

So Nina, out your 40-something years of being alive, you never seen an encounter like that.

SPEAKER_02 47:08

And I would probably never will. Never ever will. I hope I'll never see another man get smacked like that again, and not do nothing about it. Like that was crazy. It was crazy. Wow, it was crazy, man.

SPEAKER_06 47:23

I love you, Neo. I'm gonna call you back, man. You alive right now. I love you, boy. Yeah, yeah. And you see, I just told the story. I called this man right up. He's just my co-defender. We was on the same yard together, FCI McKing. I never, I'm sitting there, and I'm and then he then the Twin's a big nigga. Twin's like 6'4, nice, meaty. Now I'll duty. Come on, man. I mean, you know what I'm talking about. I'm yeah, I mean, he get and man, he cocked that joint backboard. That was true. Yeah, that was a bad drum.

SPEAKER_05 47:55

Yeah, we're gonna take some calls, y'all. Uh 215-316-4492. 215-316-4492.

SPEAKER_06 48:03

Yeah, he like like Miz say. Shout out to Miz too. Miz say, damn shit, we went to Palmer's. Hope we paid the phone bill. Oh my god. Is that joining on? Callin, y'all calling, man. Tap in, man, because it's Friday. You know the heat is out. You know what comes next.

SPEAKER_05 48:30

Tell us from the jails. Call the line 215-316-4492. 215-316. There we go. Tell us from the jails we're speaking with.

SPEAKER_04 48:41

Hey, what's going on? This is calling, right?

SPEAKER_05 48:44

Yeah, yeah, for sure. What's going on? Who's speaking with?

SPEAKER_04 48:46

Hey, brother, this is what we met last night. You said you read.

SPEAKER_05 48:52

Oh, yeah, what's up, man? What's going on, man? How you doing, man? How's how's everything? Glad you didn't call in, man.

SPEAKER_04 48:59

Oh man, oh I appreciate you too, man.

SPEAKER_05 49:08

Thanks, man. For sure.

SPEAKER_04 49:49

I get it. You know, some some, you know, uh uh, you gotta I think I just think you just gotta put things in the context.

SPEAKER_06 49:58

I hear what you're saying, bro, but give me the long lasting effect of a knockout punch. I don't I'm I'm I'm I'm cool with that long lasting effect or whatever it may be. Do not sting me for two to three seconds with that slap, please.

SPEAKER_04 50:13

I feel you, I feel you. Well, I just called in, man. I enjoy y'all show, man. Keep doing what y'all doing, man. Thanks. And uh man, I support y'all, man. Blessing to both of y'all.

SPEAKER_05 50:22

I appreciate you, man. J Knight.

SPEAKER_04 50:23

All right, brother.

SPEAKER_05 50:25

Yeah, I had met the met the other night. I was down uh City Hall handling some things and then Oh, he's a sheriff.

SPEAKER_06 50:32

Yeah, he I just met an officer too the other day, man.

SPEAKER_05 50:35

He gave me some good advice, man. So shout out to him, man. And uh, yeah, he was real cool, real cool, man. Real receptive, man. You know, trying to give me some game or some stuff. So I appreciate that, man. Shout out to you, bro. Yeah. But yeah, shout out to uh the boy underscore Lil. The donation, man. Appreciate you, man. Tell us with Jells, we speaking with. Shout out to you, Mayor Southwest, what's up? What's going on?

SPEAKER_04 51:02

Black, I called a couple weeks ago about the OG knife order, uh?

SPEAKER_06 51:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 51:09

So look, right, I got another question. So you got somebody that's in college, right? He's doing it a good way, he's following the the laws, you know, he's on the scholarship, uh doing everything right, right? But at the same time, he broke. So he's throwing a little weed, uh bagging up every night, taking them trips, all that, right? You said a couple weeks ago, there's no like being on both sides of the fence. So where would you put him?

SPEAKER_06 51:49

See, he he he he just trying to make a like, he he not all in. He not all in. And you know he's in you know a hard time. And I'm not saying because the hard times come, you go ahead and cut a corner and sell some dope or weed or whatever the case be, but that's more easy for him to do. That's what he thinks, probably before he goes get a job or anything, evidently because he's doing it. But uh with him, he he's a he's a schoolboy, he's a schoolboy, he he he this is his background. He knows he gets good grades and he's looking for some fast money. He's going about it wrong. Yeah, he's going about it totally wrong.

SPEAKER_05 52:21

The jeopardize everything, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_06 52:23

And he really don't know.

SPEAKER_04 52:28

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're gonna say this my cousin, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_06 52:30

Yeah, man, this is somebody that you gotta sit down and to especially he ain't got no record or none of that yet, man. And and you because that's how it always happened, man. A poverty a poverty leads you to making the wrong decision, man. And especially the decision to go out to get the fast money instead of the long money, and the long money is the work, the working money, the money you gotta work hard for, eight hours, sixteen hour shifts. Like, who the hell really wants to do that? Like, we're gonna be real, but you got to do it, and you know what I'm saying? Verse versus bagging up, you know, four and a half of weed or something. You got some good weed and it's jumping. Now, again, we're not promoting you to do that, but you understand what I'm saying? So that's more pleasing to enticing to a motherfucker. But no, you gotta know, man, we're dealing with that come a whole lot other than just getting some money. You get core with it now.

SPEAKER_04 53:16

Thankfully, thankfully, man, this was years ago, so you know we're on the other side. But I just wanted to get to uh I heard you talk about like there's no theater in the mind. And that's you know, I just wanted to ask your opinion or something like that.

SPEAKER_05 53:28

Like, yeah, yeah, appreciate it. Appreciate you, man.

SPEAKER_04 53:31

I appreciate it. Have a good day, man. Have a good weekend, man.

SPEAKER_05 53:34

All right, man. You too, man. You too, bro. Don't forget to hit the like button, y'all. Hit the like button. Hit the like button if y'all can, man. Don't forget to become a member if you're able to. Uh everyone should subscribe. But yeah, man, 215-316-4492, 215-316-4492. Um, like sometimes, like, just to speak on a situation with him, you know, it's it's quick and easy to do the wrong thing, man. I know, man. And and I understand. Like, I understand because it's like it just all it seems like it's all the wrong thing, is it's always right there in front of you.

SPEAKER_06 54:09

And it's the easiest thing to do. It's like easiest. But it's so much come with it, bro.

SPEAKER_05 54:12

Yeah, man. Once you get locked up, you let's think. We'll talk about later. Tell us from the jails we're speaking with. Shout out to Utown. What's up, boy? What's going on?

SPEAKER_01 54:22

Not much, man. Not much. I just wanted to say uh salute y'all brothers, man. Y'all doing your thing. I appreciate you, man. Um got a question for y'all though, like, because I've really cut them.

SPEAKER_05 54:33

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 54:34

Well, um, what's your favorite interview y'all did so far?

SPEAKER_05 54:38

Uh for me. I think I'm trying to think. Hold on. No. For me, nah 30.

SPEAKER_06 54:47

What's the name? 30 shot. 30 Shot Nah. Uh. I mean, for me, all I had a fun, I had a good, a good time. All of them is good, but nah really, I I really tapped in with nah, man. Shout out to Nah, stand up, man. Like, BD Seagull was a good interview. I'll be out.

SPEAKER_01 55:02

Um, I'll be out was a good drama.

SPEAKER_05 55:05

I'm just trying to think. We had a lot, had a lot of uh Oskino for sure. Oskino. Umskino coming back up here too. Uh I don't know, man. I just had so many good interviews, man. I can't really think about think about it right now, but we had so many good interviews, but you know, you you just never know. Because sometimes people can think of a person with a name, it's gonna give you a crazy interview, but you just never know. It can be anybody that can give you a crazy interview, man. Yeah, yeah. Anybody. Right. So the name doesn't always determine the uh quality of the interview. So, but yeah, shout out to those everybody that came on tell us from the jails and everybody that's to come on duty. Right, right.

SPEAKER_01 55:38

Shout out to y'all, man. Yeah, I was excited. I really be like just wanted to pick your brain on that, man. Keep doing your thing.

SPEAKER_05 55:44

All right, thanks, man. Thank you, man. Yeah, we had Wallow up here. Wallow was a good interview, man. Um, yeah, man, I don't know, man. It's just so many. Yeah, man. But yeah, uh, what I was saying, I was saying, um, I understand the aspect of people, like, because we understand how like things be right there, the wrong things are always right there in front of you. You know what I'm saying? And it's like so easy accessible to just do that, man. And just think about the like you get locked up, right? You gotta go to the district, right? Then you gotta sit in the district for a day, and depending on you get locked in, even there for three days. Then you gotta get a bell. Then you gotta get a bell, you gotta get bailed out. And then you gotta get a lawyer, right? Then you gotta go to court for the plemon, the arraignment, the preliminary. Then the case might get pushed out. It's just so much that comes along with just that. It don't get found guilty of some. Don't get sound, don't get found guilty or have to be have a detainer and you in the county, or you got something, and it's just so easy, just one mistake. The cops only gotta catch you one time. That's it. You can hustle every day, but you get caught one time, you gotta go through all over again. And sometimes it might be in a situation where everybody, you know, uh, call you, call your man for your bell, or call this person. Man, I ain't got the bell. It's like, yo, it's just so much to come along with that stuff, man. So for me, I ain't gonna lie, man. If I had for me, I I'll take a job, man. I'll do Uber to Lyft. I'm just I'm not, I'm not, I'm not knocking it, man. I just before I even would before somebody can give me 20 kilos of uh of cocaine or a hundred pounds of weed, I'll go, I'll go do lift for Uber, bro. I ain't gonna lie. Because I just I'm thinking about everything that's gonna come up. Not even just that, I just poison the poisoning the uh community. That's the that's the main thing. Cause you you breaking these pounds down and it's coke down, and it's just it's the little pieces and it's just distributing all throughout the the community. It's just terrible, man. Tell us from the jails who you're speaking with. Yeah, but you gotta, you know what I'm saying? You putting you putting so much stuff into the community. I'm cool, man. I ain't trying to be making Toba for so much all that stuff, man. I still make a Toba now for all the years of me running the streets before. Because you never know what you who you affected. A pregnant woman, uh a little kid, and called the broke up a home, the kid, mom using drugs, buying drugs from you, and selling the scare the kids away, and you never know how you know deep the rabbit hole may go, man. You never know what you're in store for. So for me, I I'm cool. I ain't got I ain't I don't feel like the need to cut corners, but I'm I'm only just giving my advice to those who are contemplating doing it. Just understand that it's a lot that comes along with it. You know what I'm saying? I spoke about stuff on a small scale. There's some people that get locked up. What about the bull? I mean, you heard you heard about the bull, right? Him and his wife. Somebody started breaking their crib, right? Mm-hmm. So they breaking the crib. The wife ran out, go get a uh neighbor. Neighbor come back, shoot the intruder in the head. The cops get a warrant, search the house, and file 1.5 million in drugs and uh and whatever in the house. On top of the homicide. But the homicide, I guess the neighbor was that must have been licensed to carry, but he shot the shot the guy. But still, this is an old man and an old woman. They ain't even. So, but that's why the intruder is in there. He's he knew something was going on. Exactly. Tell us from the jails who you speaking with. What's up, boy? What's up? Who this man?

SPEAKER_03 59:15

Bardo, come up, man.

SPEAKER_05 59:17

Shout out to you, Bardo. What's up, Bardo? What's up, man? How you doing, man? How your health, bro? I'll do anything with you.

SPEAKER_04 59:22

Showing, showing, man. One day at a time.

SPEAKER_05 59:26

What's up, Bardo?

SPEAKER_04 59:30

Sure, man. I look at you for sure every day, man. Appreciate you. Look like your cousin, man. So that helps out a lot.

SPEAKER_07 59:37

Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_04 59:38

Rest and peace, my man, Meg. For sure. Yeah, yeah. Just want to give you a big shout out, saying, keep up the good work here with the ball. Y'all keep me laughing in good spirits.

SPEAKER_05 59:48

Thanks, Bardo, man. Appreciate that, man. You and you stay safe, man. And I'm gonna be praying for you, man.

SPEAKER_04 59:53

I appreciate that all day long. Pleasure, brother.

SPEAKER_05 59:56

Late too. I'm late, bro. Yeah, man. So, you know, a lot of a lot of uh things come with that with that lifestyle and taking and making that choice and the decision. But it'd be so lovely, man, when you get a good run. Nah, it's just dangerous, it's running smooth. Yo, I remember one time. I remember one time, right? We was uh everybody was out when we was leaving. We was on the block. It was hot, like the invoice was messing with us. You you you love to stay in the hood. We all went out to get something to eat. Came back.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:31

I was getting something to eat something in the jail cell.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:37

They like, wow, the bike cops came up there and got it.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:40

Faz too. We didn't collect that up there, Gwig.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:45

Yeah, man. Just like everything running smooth, man. And just it didn't just take one thing to come. It's bound to happen. Because when the Feds came, bro, it was like we didn't even expect that, man. And they come, and that's like the ultimate slap in the face right there. When the when the feds get there, you hear him dustkin beauty.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:05

Dustin Beauty said, Hey, she was gonna say, look at feet reminiscing. Good run, huh?

SPEAKER_05 1:01:12

You get that good run, ball jaws, the things is moving. Now I'm duty. You know what I'm saying? And then it's all come crashing down. Right when you least expect it, you don't even expect it. It's like all come, and then it's like, and then it can lead to what y'all doing 20 25 years, yeah. Or more. And then the sentencing comes, we didn't even we didn't even understand the sentence. Didn't even understand none of that stuff, man. You know what I mean? So to everybody out there, man, I would just advise y'all, man. Ain't nothing wrong with getting a job, man.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:46

At all.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:46

Or starting your own business. Go through the trials and tribulations, go through everything, go through it all, fight through it, because you're gonna appreciate it more. I got telling this all the time. When when cause because listen, when you hit big uh in uh uh legitly and you come off, it's this is a different kind of animal, it's a different kind of situation, man. So you know, we gotta uh just look at everything that you're doing in your life and just try to focus on the positives and stay focused and go after you know the right means. Because I know it's like people like like for example, some guys you can't certain opportunities like it may be the wrong opportunity, but you just can't turn it down. Like it's like somebody coming to some dudes and say, Y'all got a hundred, I got a hundred bricks right now. Ain't too many bulls, bulls gonna walk, especially in the hood, dude. I got a hundred.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:34

What you see how I'm looking at you. Where yeah? No, I wouldn't do that, but I was just saying, dudes would be, you know what I'm saying, or whatever. I got that that it'll change your whole situation, but at what price? I'm too old, man. I'm tired, man. I'm tired, man. I want to kick back, man. I want to be all down on the beach, man, with the kids, dog, cat. And then when you hustling like that, you can't really leave so much like you want to. You got because you got to extend there is a seven-day, it's a seven-day uh is a seven-day job week.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:03

You can. I ain't gonna lie, back in 10 times, I used to be happy when we went when uh wasn't no no uh no workaround. Because you get to take a trip and go away. But that stuff be crazy though, man. It's just the mentality that you gotta have to be in the streets, man. It is and it's it's not worth it, man. Ultimately, you're gonna end up you're gonna end up in jail or dead. The graveyard is filled, and so is the pen. Mm-hmm. It's filled. So many guys in there. Man, I I talked to some guys the other day. Uh I got I got a phone call from you know, somebody close to me. It was so many guys in jail that I knew that I forgot about that's in jail. So many guys that's from our neighborhoods, some like different from the city that I forgot about, that's in prison. I wonder what they're at. Like, don't you know, you know, which calls up here from Witch Call who did this from back in the lake. He's remembering that remembering the incident and that, like, yeah, yeah, you know he got he got life, bro. Uh, you know, which call up here, we got life too. He got uh Witch Call up here too. He got 50 years. Like I just ran into which call the other day. He got, you know what I'm saying? He got life. You be like, damn, all these people from my neighborhood is in jail with life.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:06

People to school with. Yeah. Sitting there doing life in the penitentiary, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:12

Yeah, he up here, you know, man. Then you start then you hear not only do you hear they got life, you hear the he got he on K2. Yeah, he on that deuce real heavy. Don't send him, don't send him a cash app. You know what I'm saying? I talked to one boy and I knew I ain't seen in a while. I ain't talked to him. I know he got a 40 to 80. Talked to him on the phone, he called me with his girl. He was like, I ain't got nobody out here, man. I'm just just me. I'm trying to figure it out. I've been in here doing it by myself. I'm like, damn. Can you send me a couple dollars? You know? It's hard, man, because once you go to jail, people forget about you. But yeah, man, the line's over. Y'all we got like a couple more minutes, man. Um, 215-316-4492. That's 215-316-4492.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:02

It's Friday. Don't go to jail today.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:04

Yeah, man. James the Flames and everybody in the chat. Don't go to jail. Darskin Beauty, the you know, everybody that's here. 7 M Wolf, Turkey Bains, what's up? You know? Everybody that's in the chat, man. We need everybody to stay free, man. July is gonna be the big time, man. July, the first week of July, we're gonna have this live event, man. It's gonna be crazy. The date is gonna be released real soon, man. It's gonna be a crazy, crazy event, man. I want everybody to be there, all the gang, all of the tells from the jails affiliates. It's gonna be a crazy situation, man. So the date is gonna be released, I believe, next week. Um but it's gonna be we're gonna have a great time, man. Full of laughter, full of positivity. Y'all get to meet this guy here. You know what I'm saying? Y'all got power slap, he's gonna take a picture with you. If he don't take a picture, give him a power slap.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:59

Mm-hmm. Please don't do that.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:06

Tell us for the jazz we speak with. I hear you said again.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:13

Seven and wool.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:14

Whoven and wool. Yo, what's up, man? Seven and wool. What's up? What's going on? What's going on, brother? What's up, man? I got two questions. Yeah, go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:24

Okay, look. All right, basically, like, I mean, I just I ain't gonna lie, I just got off the street, you feel me? And um going to school, be an electrician.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:34

That's what's up.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:35

Like, I still be I still be having the earth to you feel me.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:39

Get hurt because I ain't gonna lie, it'd be kinda hard. Kind of, you feel me? Go to work, pay my bills, and I ain't gonna lie, like it be it be hard. What advice can you give me?

SPEAKER_05 1:06:51

The advice that I can give you, man, uh would be to separate yourself from people, places, and things. Anybody that's listen, man, I and I know it's hard, I had to do it, man. I had to separate myself from my own brother. You know, because you gotta remove yourself from people that's doing that type of stuff because ultimately they're gonna continue to entice you. They're gonna put money in your hand. You hold hold this money real fast for me. Uh, or they're gonna start counting money in front of you, or they're gonna start talking about what they got going on, or they're gonna get you in the car to ride with them. They got a new car. Yeah, this car is, and they say no, it's gonna entice you, and your pockets might be flat. Or you, you know what I'm saying? You're trying to do the right thing. So I would just remove myself from people, you know what I'm saying? Because it's gonna entice you, man. The main thing, I'm telling you, man, it's happened to me. The thing that's getting me all the time was one time I was somewhere and my uh my man, he uh was in a car, he gave me like a bag of money. Yo, hold this money, put it. I look at the bag, it's full of money. I'm like, dang, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on flat. So I'm like, dang. But then it enticed me because I know I can possibly I can get that.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:50

So and you look what's crazy is I kind of went through a situation like that like a couple weeks ago. But it was like, I did the same thing.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:57

I'm like, uh, and I know I know you did it on I know he did it on purpose, man. I know you did that on purpose. Yeah, they do that on purpose. That's that's that's a trick that is used to get you back because they understand that you can hustle. So yeah, man, but I would I would have changed people, places, and things, bro. For sure, man. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:13

And listen, I got a homie, we got eight years, you feel me?

SPEAKER_05 1:08:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:18

For a temp, but we bet we talk every day, you feel me? We talk every day, and he's trying to get his shit together. He in the law library. He he trying to come home and do right. And I'm telling them the same thing, you feel me? And then whenever you call, if he calls, whenever y'all are live, I'll call one day.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:34

Yeah, for sure, man. Another thing, too, we got we got coming. We have a 24-hour hotline. It's called the Don't Do It Hotline, man. So when you feel like you're about to go do something, call a hotline. We talk you off the ledge, man. You know what I'm saying? No matter what it is. It's coming. The number the number is gonna be issued this week. This week coming as well.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:51

And then my second question was um, when the last time y'all rumbled? You you're in black. When the last time y'all rumbled?

SPEAKER_05 1:08:59

Well, we we came close to rumbling a few times since he's been home, but real close, like it did, but it ain't really get there. It was like like it was like 98%. But the last time we fought was uh what was that, like 2000, what 2001?

SPEAKER_06 1:09:12

Back in the day, right? No, the last time we fought by a little earlier than that. Him and his brother rode on me. Yeah, right, right, right.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:19

I remember that.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:20

Yeah, that was the that was the last thing. We came close a few times.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:22

And another thing, Black, you gotta calm down on the Detroit news, man. I ain't gonna lie. It's like the third time I'm gonna hear you say something about Detroit.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:29

Detroit? Oh no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm just telling you the truth, man. This is my man Brooke.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:36

I'm no, I'm no appreciate y'all boys, man. Shout out to y'all, man. All right, man.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:42

Thank you, man. Appreciate you, man. Stay out, stay free this weekend. 7 and Wolf.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:46

For sure, for sure.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:47

Yeah, man. Yeah, man. So you know it is what it is, man. But listen, we thank everybody for tuning in. Hotline coming, man. 24-hour hotline. You can call in that you got something going on, your baby mom uh stressing you, you know, your baby father stressing you. Tell some the jails. Tell some the jails. Tell us from the jails. Uh yeah, so like I was saying, man, hotline coming next week. Your baby, your baby father stressing you, your baby mom stretching you, you ready to break break the law. You know, you need some advice about, you know, how to go about a job or whatever, baby. You guys need some advice, you're gonna be able to call a hotline. And myself or Mr. Jackson might answer. He might answer it, you know, he might be belligerent during the night. So he might cuss you out. But me, I'm gonna give you the best advice I can every time. The phone's gonna be available, man. We're gonna we're gonna take the time to answer the phone for our people out here, because we gotta be in touch. You never know who who's gonna need who. And the hotline is gonna be readily available, man. We're gonna be uh dying to take calls whenever it's like all day. The phone will be over. So you want to talk about anything, we're gonna be available with. And I'm saying if we can, we get back to you, we can probably text or whatever the case may be, but we're gonna make it happen. Tell us from the jails we're speaking with. Tell us from the jails who's speaking with. Shout out to West Virginia. What's up, man? What's up, Chris? What's going on with the club?

SPEAKER_03 1:11:12

You out there, you out there in the sticks, man. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, man. Um, but no, I work at a juvenile detention center down here, man. And I be having little young boys, you know, tuning in to the show every now and again. And I got a bunch of them here um listening to me. I just want to see if you know you a black can give us some advice real quick.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:35

Okay, yeah, I can give some advice. My advice to the my advice to the youth, man, if they if they listening, those who are listening and watching, the most important thing for you to do to start with is to listen to your parents. So, number one, I know no matter how hard it may get, no matter how difficult it may be, how you don't want to listen to them, how they feel like you feel like they just telling you the wrong thing, but your parents are there for a reason to deter you from going to these places that you may be in or the struggles that you may be faced with. Because your parents have been through what you're going through. The parents have they already experienced it. Now, the other thing, the other thing is just because you bumped your head and you made a mistake, you didn't listen to your parents the first time, take heed, understand your mistakes, fix those, and move forward and do things different. Don't continue to do the same thing because you might be 16, 17, 18 right now, or maybe even 14. You look up, you're gonna be 35 trying to figure it out. So therefore, and then also guys like uh like the young man we're talking to on the phone, that person is there to assist you and help you. That person is there to help you get to the next level. I know you're in a situation, you might be in a clinch, whatever it may be, but it's time for you to take it, take heed, take advantage of your youth, and uh go out there and just be you know, be amazing, be spectacular, you know, just just change the narrative about yourself, man, and just be a positive figure in society. That's my advice to you.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:56

I appreciate it, man. Thanks.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:58

For sure, man. For sure. Anytime. Shout out to West Virginia. You know, I got I got a little grip with West Virginia, but it ain't got nothing to do with you, man. But I appreciate I appreciate you, man. Thanks for calling in, man. Thank you. Yeah, yeah, man. Uh, we're about to get up out of here. I want to thank everybody for uh tuning in to Tell us for the Joe as we do this for y'all. Um, you know, we we appreciate the the conversation. We appreciate everybody in the chat. We appreciate the the awareness that we spread. And like I said, the hotline is coming real soon. Y'all can call 24 hours and get with us. And also, uh the live, the live event is gonna be next week. Um I'm sorry, not next week, I'm sorry, next month. We will release the date next week. We appreciate