KENZO SOJO : TALES FROM THE JAILS LIVE!!!

Kenzo Sojo came pass the studio to sit down with Braheem and Tawfiq to discuss her early childhood the trials and tribulations of a broken home. Kenzo Sojo spoke about being raised without her father and the death of her mother and much more.

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SPEAKER_04 6:37

I'm Mia Moore, Kenzo Sojo.

SPEAKER_10 6:39

Kenzo Sojo, Miyamore, yes. Kenjinton's uh Sojo. So what does that mean?

SPEAKER_03 6:47

Kensington is the hood here. And sojo is me.

SPEAKER_11 6:51

Okay, so she repping, she repping that. Yes. Hey, hey, Cody, cut that off, Cottie.

SPEAKER_10 6:57

Um, but the okay, so as you know, tell us what we speak about you know real life events about you know, uh, you know, people that may have gone to prison, people may have who have you know have you know uh stories of being arrested, whatever it may have been, we can put it out, you know, we put it out to the audience for them to see it in that the comment, you tell me you tell me what's going on with you, and and so forth and so on. So, you know, uh you've been to jail.

SPEAKER_05 7:24

Yeah, I've been in jail. Yeah, I've been to jail, I've been in jail.

SPEAKER_10 7:29

So how time you've been to jail?

SPEAKER_05 7:31

How many times?

SPEAKER_10 7:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 7:33

A few.

SPEAKER_10 7:35

All right, so let's get to it. So so you from Kinson originally, and you and you've been to jail, but it's like I want to say this too. We're not glorifying prison anyway. You know, we just have you know, we have a female who's spent time in jail, and she's now going to tell her story about you know spending time uh behind a prison wall.

SPEAKER_11 7:51

And what led her to spending time behind because you know a lot of people don't know about you know, there's females out here. And I don't like to say uh doing what women do, but they're they're they're they're out here involved, and that's what can lead them to jail, getting killed, getting shot. And um, so yeah, she's gonna tell about all that.

SPEAKER_10 8:13

All right, so let's let's let's get to it. So, you know, so uh so you've been to jail recently now. Did you ever do any state time, any just county bids? What was you what were you in in prison for?

SPEAKER_04 8:23

I never made it a state. Never made it a state. But I did county times. I did county.

SPEAKER_10 8:27

Pull a mic look close to you if you can. Okay. All right, so you've been uh you've been arrested. And what have you been arrested for?

SPEAKER_04 8:35

Um drugs.

SPEAKER_10 8:37

Selling it or using it?

SPEAKER_04 8:39

What was selling it?

SPEAKER_10 8:42

Selling drugs, yeah. Now, uh, what led you to like a um, you know, a life of selling drugs? Or what what happened in your what how was your lifestyle coming up as a kid? Did you have your mom and your dad? Your mom, no dad, or how was that for you?

SPEAKER_04 8:57

I didn't have my parents. I was in like placement group homes and stuff. I didn't have my parents.

SPEAKER_10 9:02

So all right, how old were you when you were in your first group home? Somebody phones on. We can hear. How old were you when you when you was in your first um when you were since your first group home?

SPEAKER_03 9:14

15.

SPEAKER_10 9:15

15 years old? So who where were you before you turned 15? What was going on before you turned 15?

SPEAKER_04 9:23

I don't know. I think I was just bad. I just was busy in everything.

SPEAKER_10 9:29

So you was bad as so hold on. I'm trying to get get get the audience so they can kind of grasp everything. So you were born, you live, you lived in Kingston all your life?

unknown 9:38

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_10 9:39

Okay. So in Kensington, you were raised by who? Like from like is a kid, like coming up and tell you.

SPEAKER_04 9:45

I was raised by myself. The game, we our friends, we raised each other. We was we was out here.

SPEAKER_10 9:50

From from the ages, like I'm talking about like Fresh Out the Wound. Your parents went there and raised you, no, no time.

SPEAKER_04 9:55

Well, my mom, she had got booked. She had got booked in a house. They had she had served the police, so they had took me out of her house. That's why I even went to policemen.

SPEAKER_10 10:04

How old were you when that when that happened?

SPEAKER_04 10:05

I was 14.

SPEAKER_10 10:07

14. So before up, so before that, your your mom raised you up until that time.

SPEAKER_04 10:11

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_10 10:12

Okay. And how was your life like at, you know, I know Kensington is like a rough area. And how was your life coming up in at that time? Like, you know, four from one to fourteen. Was it, you know, was it a difficult atmosphere? How was that for you coming up?

SPEAKER_03 10:27

Like what like what you mean, Kensitan or placement?

SPEAKER_10 10:29

Just Kennington, like coming up as a kid. Like, you know, being with your mom from being born.

SPEAKER_03 10:34

I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 10:35

Kinsitan, Kinsitan got his good days and got bad days. I wouldn't say necessarily bad. It's just what you do in Kinseton. It's not necessarily a bad place. Like it's good people out here.

SPEAKER_10 10:44

Okay. And you mentioned that your your mother, you know, got arrested got arrested when you was 14, 15, whatever, then you went to placement. But where's your father?

SPEAKER_04 10:55

I don't know.

SPEAKER_10 10:55

You never knew your father?

SPEAKER_04 10:56

No, I knew him, but he'd be doing his own thing.

SPEAKER_10 10:59

So you never really had a relationship with him?

SPEAKER_04 11:02

Uh high and by.

SPEAKER_10 11:03

Wow. How was that for you? Like then like to have a type of relationship with you with your dad, whereas though he was like high and by, or you know, he wasn't around. Do you think that affected you anyway?

SPEAKER_04 11:12

I think it affected me, but there's nothing to cry over.

SPEAKER_10 11:16

Did you ever cry about it when you was young?

SPEAKER_04 11:18

No.

SPEAKER_10 11:19

My mom.

SPEAKER_03 11:20

I was always like with my mom. My dad wasn't really there. So, no.

SPEAKER_10 11:26

Do you think it's important for young girls to have their fathers in their life?

SPEAKER_03 11:29

Yes.

SPEAKER_11 11:31

You said yes. I like how you say yes. You be adamant on that. Why you say yes? Why you say yes? Digging deep. What why should a young girl have a father figure in their life? From your standpoint.

SPEAKER_04 11:42

I feel like you need a dad and you need a mom. That's what it was like.

SPEAKER_11 11:47

But both of them have different intellects to give their child. Um what would it be that you missed from a father that he could have gave you?

SPEAKER_04 11:56

I don't know. I feel like my dad should have supported me more. He should have been there more. I'm doing nigga shit. I was doing nigga shit. If I had a dad, I wouldn't have been doing nigga shit. That's how I feel.

SPEAKER_10 12:06

All right, describe to us. What is that?

SPEAKER_04 12:08

Like nigga shit?

SPEAKER_11 12:09

Yeah, so if you didn't, if you if you had your dad there at the time, you would have been cool. You think you think without the dude?

SPEAKER_04 12:16

I don't know. I can't say what life would have been because it I it never happened, but I just feel like if my dad would have been there, shit would have been different. Like I wouldn't have had to probably go to placement because I would have had a dad. It would have been like, so that probably would have changed a lot of shit, but I'm not going.

SPEAKER_11 12:30

So would you say placement led you to the life of crime?

SPEAKER_04 12:34

To be honest, I think placement made me worse because I wasn't like violent, but like I wasn't fighting until I got the placement and bitches wanted to fight. Like I wasn't smoking weed until I got the placement and bitches wanted to smoke. Like I was actually cool until I got there, I think. To be honest.

SPEAKER_11 12:51

Because I've been in placement too, and I look at placement as another form of jail.

SPEAKER_04 12:54

It was jail. We was locked down. It was a lockdown facility. That's jail.

SPEAKER_11 12:58

Oh, so you was in a group home then?

SPEAKER_04 13:00

I was in Wordsworth Academy. The one I was at got shut down. It was killing people and restraints and stuff.

SPEAKER_11 13:04

Yeah. Like a lot of people think because the kids go to placement that they're protected properly.

SPEAKER_04 13:10

No, that's jail. That was jail.

SPEAKER_11 13:12

So it's starting at a young age.

SPEAKER_04 13:14

That was jail.

SPEAKER_03 13:16

Anything, any, any place where you can't leave, like when you want to go to your mom and dad and they say no, your home pass is done. That's jail.

SPEAKER_10 13:23

Yeah. Yeah. I solid it. So that's because you look, we like to give like a uh perspectives because like the this podcast is about education, educating people. Um, not only educating people, but you know, actually showing people that um you know we have to be there for our children. We have to we have to be out here free, so forth, so on. But now I just want to go back to your father, the father, your father, um, and his role. How is your relationship with him now?

SPEAKER_04 13:50

Um, I don't talk to my dad.

SPEAKER_10 13:52

When was the last time you spoke to him?

SPEAKER_04 13:54

Uh-uh. Like a year ago.

SPEAKER_10 13:56

Oh wow. And so is he like he alive well? Is he is he is he healthy? Is he is he in jail? Is he on drugs?

SPEAKER_04 14:02

No, he's not on drugs, he's not in jail. He's alive, he's healthy, he just doing what he do. He just doing him.

SPEAKER_10 14:08

And he and he he don't don't try to reach out to you or you just reach out to him.

SPEAKER_04 14:12

We don't talk. He got a hella kids. Like, I'm cool with my sisters and my brothers.

SPEAKER_10 14:17

How many of y'all is it?

SPEAKER_04 14:18

A lot. Like, I got like seven sisters, like four brothers.

SPEAKER_10 14:22

Wow.

SPEAKER_04 14:22

I'm cool with them though. Like, we close. We all we know we know what's up with dad. We got each other to take shit.

SPEAKER_10 14:28

Okay. What about your mom?

SPEAKER_04 14:30

Um, she passed away.

SPEAKER_10 14:31

Oh, how long ago? I'm sorry to hear that.

SPEAKER_04 14:33

I was like, I think I was 15, 14. She passed away right after I went to placement. She passed away when I was in placement.

SPEAKER_10 14:40

Wow. I'll keep putting mic a little closer to you if you can. Just a little closer. There you go. All right. So now you were your your mother got arrested in inside of a a drug house or whatever the case may be.

SPEAKER_03 14:51

No, in our house. She was in our house.

SPEAKER_10 14:52

Oh, your house. And she was, she was, so she was she was selling drugs out of your house.

SPEAKER_03 14:56

I think she sold to an officer. They just took us out the house. I don't really like remember always what happened. They just took us out the house.

SPEAKER_10 15:02

Because I went through something like that when I was a kid too. So I I kind of remembered like, you know, what happened to me. And so your mom passing away a year later. Did she pass away in jail? Was she on the streets?

SPEAKER_04 15:13

No, she was on the streets. She wasn't in jail.

SPEAKER_10 15:16

And do you remember where you was at when you found out that she passed away?

unknown 15:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 15:20

I was in placement.

SPEAKER_10 15:22

I'm just saying, like at the time.

SPEAKER_04 15:23

I went, I went, um, I actually had a home pass. Matter of fact, I had a home pass, so I was home. So she was coming to pick me up, and she never made it to me. I don't know what happened.

SPEAKER_10 15:33

Wow.

SPEAKER_04 15:34

Nobody told nobody like would tell me the story. I don't know what happened.

SPEAKER_10 15:37

Even to this day. How old are you now?

SPEAKER_05 15:41

Old.

SPEAKER_10 15:42

Okay, well, you know, I mean, you could. But so your mom was on her way to come get you. Um, she passed away, but you don't know how she passed away. So, how did you find out that she passed? Somebody just told you like your mom passed, or how did that happen?

SPEAKER_04 15:57

Because she never came to get me. So I kept asking, and then they let me go to the hospital, like when she was passing, like I guess they was trying to do the thing. She was still alive conduct, so we all went there, but she passed away in the hospital. But I don't know what happened.

SPEAKER_10 16:09

How did that affect you when your mom passed?

SPEAKER_04 16:13

I don't know. Everything changed. Like everything changed.

SPEAKER_10 16:18

Like what? Like, you know, just that was that was your your main support group, like having your mom?

SPEAKER_02 16:22

Mm-hmm. She just like was real supportive.

SPEAKER_10 16:28

And from there, like, you know, losing your mom, you know, because that's a devastat's that's devastating to a lot. A lot of people, a lot of people go through these things and they never really, you know, get the proper help or the or the proper assistance to deal with these type of things. Do you think that you ever got the proper help to deal with losing your mom?

SPEAKER_04 16:45

Well, like therapy?

SPEAKER_10 16:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 16:47

That's why I write music.

SPEAKER_10 16:50

So that's your therapy as far as um, you know, wow. Now that's my therapy. Used to get your therapy to to help you get over, you know, uh the fact of losing your mom. Now, what what were some of the best things that you can remember about your mom? Like if you talk about your mom, what were some of the things that you that you that you can remember?

SPEAKER_04 17:10

She never missed nothing, no show, no graduation, no school pictures, no nothing. She just always there. It's different from going to like a parent and then a placement.

SPEAKER_10 17:21

Like wow. And going to placement and and being placed in placement after your your mom passing, can you describe like that that that day of going back to placement after finding out that your mom pass?

SPEAKER_04 17:39

What you mean?

SPEAKER_10 17:40

Like the date, because you know I didn't go right back.

SPEAKER_04 17:42

I think I was home for like a month. They let me stay home. I didn't go back a good month.

SPEAKER_10 17:50

Who do you stay with?

SPEAKER_04 17:51

I stay with my aunt and uncle. My aunt adopted me.

SPEAKER_10 17:54

She adopted you and then sent you back to placement?

SPEAKER_04 17:57

No, I didn't get sent back to placement. I had ran away. I'm not gonna lie. I had ran away from my awesome.

SPEAKER_10 18:03

And this is your mom's sister?

SPEAKER_04 18:05

Mm-mm. That's my mom's aunt. So my great aunt.

SPEAKER_10 18:08

Wow. So you ran away. Why why you run away?

SPEAKER_04 18:13

I don't know. I wanted to do me. Like I had I had a little brother, and I feel like the placement, like my aunt adopted us, but she still wasn't like rich. Like it was me and my little brother. So I had to take care of my little brother. So I just was out here gaming, like getting some cheese, getting some money. To be honest.

SPEAKER_11 18:28

That's how it always happened. You know, back be against the wall. Not to say that the streets is the only, you know, avenue to go ahead and get some money, but also all we be knowing growing up. I understand you all too well.

SPEAKER_04 18:41

You understand? People don't be understanding.

SPEAKER_11 18:44

I understand. I believe me.

SPEAKER_10 18:46

I I have walked that road, a long road. Me too. And and not to say that it's right, we're just that sometimes our back against the wall.

SPEAKER_11 18:56

And then, bro, you don't really be having nobody to geek, like, yo, all right, just stay down, stay down, and go to school. Ain't nobody out there in the hood doing that shit, man. You know what I'm saying? So you come up, you know, I understand it. You you come up like, all right, I gotta do what I gotta do. Whether it be for a man selling dope or whatever, robbing or a woman, she's selling dope or selling vagina or whatever, you know, just to make some ends, just to feed. She's like she said, she I got a little brother. She became a mom at a young age. So what was you doing? What was you doing? What were you doing to make money?

SPEAKER_04 19:26

Um what was I doing?

SPEAKER_10 19:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 19:28

I was just selling little stuff.

SPEAKER_05 19:32

We were selling things, goods, wholesale products.

SPEAKER_10 19:40

I mean, yeah. The thing about it is this though, like a lot of times it's a lot of young girls that's actually going through the same thing that you went through right now. And then maybe watching, or so forth and so on, or there might be people that be in the chat that may be uh that may have experienced this, that you that you go on what you uh went through. Now, we use this platform to kind of you know get this stuff out there because a lot of times, you know, like I said, people want to hear these these real stories and see how you how you maintain it, how you deal with this this adversity. So you had to go out there and and and try to make some money because you said y'all y'all wasn't rich, y'all needed stuff. So was you was your aunt working? Did she have a job?

SPEAKER_04 20:19

My aunt was working, she had a job instead.

SPEAKER_10 20:21

Uh, do you think that you was you was a little rebellious, like you just wanted you wanted to do what you wanted to do a little bit?

SPEAKER_05 20:26

Yes.

SPEAKER_10 20:27

Yeah. That's what it'd be too a lot of times, you know, because we we as kids, we want to um we want to do what we want what we got what we want to do and so forth and so on, and sometimes we can use an excuse like that. I ain't got nothing just to do what we what we want to do. I did it. You know what I'm saying? Um now you run away from your aunt house, and they catch you what a month later, put you put you in placement?

SPEAKER_04 20:53

Yeah. Uh yeah, I had to go back.

SPEAKER_10 20:55

How'd they catch up to you?

SPEAKER_04 20:56

I had got curt selling, I had got curt trapping.

SPEAKER_10 20:59

You quote a case?

SPEAKER_04 21:00

Yeah. Not really a case because I was a kid, but like they had booked me called my parents, so I had to go to placement because I already had like placement history. So I couldn't go back to school.

SPEAKER_10 21:09

Wow. And now you go back to placement, and placement is rough.

SPEAKER_04 21:13

It's just it's a it's a yeah, placement was like placement was ass. Like I wouldn't recommend sending your kids to placement. Like, even if you're thinking about it, I don't know. Maybe somebody didn't hear that. Don't send your kids to placement. Try, work with them.

SPEAKER_11 21:24

Wow though. Wow, why you say that?

SPEAKER_04 21:25

That shit ass. My friend, like, kids was dying in there. Like, placement, I was at they shut that down, kids was dying.

SPEAKER_10 21:30

Can you pull the mics a little closer to a little bit closer to you?

SPEAKER_04 21:33

Like, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't think, I don't think that's okay to put your child in a placement. Like, you know, parents be thinking they doing what's best for their kid because they don't really know, but that's not the answer. That's jail for a kid. And then your kid's gonna be institutionalized and they're gonna turn out like me. No, for real.

SPEAKER_10 21:54

Wow, message. So you super message. Yeah, so you go on placement and you said you see these things to. Saw a kid dying. How was the kids dying?

SPEAKER_04 22:01

Like they was restraining. Like I'm talking about actually dying, not like not no metaphor. Shit. I'm talking about like they was putting them in restraints, like choking them, like killing them, like all kinds of shit that's why all them lawsuits and shit for the placements is all now.

SPEAKER_10 22:11

And what uh placement facility was you at?

SPEAKER_04 22:13

Wordsworth Academy. I was in Vision Quest. But Wordsworth was by far the worst.

SPEAKER_10 22:18

What was that located?

SPEAKER_04 22:19

West Philly. I think like Belmont. I don't know exactly where.

SPEAKER_10 22:25

Oh yeah. I know exactly what you're talking about. Wow. Is it still open?

SPEAKER_04 22:29

No, it got shut down.

SPEAKER_10 22:29

Yeah, yeah, things shut down now, yeah. Wow. And how long were you on what were you in placement for? How long how long were you there for?

SPEAKER_04 22:37

I'm not sure. Like a year. Probably a little over a year.

SPEAKER_10 22:41

And so you got out when you what, 15, 16, 17, 16, 17? And where you go from there?

SPEAKER_04 22:47

Um, to the streets. I was outside. That's when I was on my own about that time.

SPEAKER_10 22:53

So they just put you out.

SPEAKER_04 22:55

Yeah, they just sent everybody home. I don't know how to explain, but that's what they did. They shut the placement down, couldn't no kids stay there anymore. Got shut down, state shut it down, placement OVA, everybody go figure it out. Pretty much.

SPEAKER_10 23:06

Wow, and this is our city of Philadelphia. Just pushing the kids out to the streets. A lot of kids probably went out to the streets. Um, this is also, man, like, you know, a lot of times we we sit back and don't really pay attention to this. This is me as a as an adult too. We sometimes look at the aspect of trying to get money as a parent. How are we gonna get we gonna sell drugs? We're gonna do this and do that. But the the seller and the user, it's really no difference between a person who's using drugs and the person who's selling it. Really, it's really not. It just has a different effect. Sometimes one just affects his own self-bart and the user, but a drug dealer actually affects or destroys a whole community. You know what I'm saying? The drug dealer just destroys the community, and and by destroying the community, what happens is we are we breaking these homes down. So then we we're looking at trying to get some money, but we serving people who have kids, and these parents are using drugs, and now ultimately we're not only affecting the parents, but we affecting the kids in the long run. You know what I'm saying? That was one of the things for me made me decide that I was I was done. Because I saw the effects of it, the effects that it was doing. I really thought about it, like, damn, how can I call myself a man when I'm out here just destroying my community? Because I'm trying to get some money. You know what I mean? So that was that that was just for me. So everybody got to figure out what they want to do with themselves. But for me, I look at it, that's how I looked at it like, damn, I'm out here destroying my community. And this be this would be the effects of it. Like I see people right now, I see kids who are affected by the drugs that I was selling. I see them in in my neighborhood, and the kids walk up to me, and I'm looking at them, and I can see the defects in them from the drugs that their mothers was using that I was selling, and I'm like, damn, I feel bad. Now you you um you come back to you know, back to the to the sleeping placement, come back to the streets. And now you had did you have anywhere to go? Was you just homeless? What was that for you?

SPEAKER_04 25:00

No, I was I was like, I had money, so I just had my own crib at that point. Like I just was paying rent in my apartment and I just was staying there. All my friends had their own apartments and shit. We was cool. But like we just had each other. That's what I said. I thought we had each other. Even like a lot of my friends is from policemen still to this day.

SPEAKER_10 25:18

Are they affected? Are they are they affected?

SPEAKER_04 25:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 25:23

Do you have any kids?

SPEAKER_04 25:24

Yeah, I got a son.

SPEAKER_10 25:26

How old is he?

SPEAKER_04 25:26

Seven.

SPEAKER_10 25:29

And you're taking care of your son, I'm assuming. Um is there some things that you that you worry about as far as your son, like as far as you know, any any concerns you have as far as you know, up bringing him up and you know I try to keep my son out the mix.

SPEAKER_04 25:44

Like he don't, he don't, like I don't have him outside. He don't we don't live in Kenseton. Like he don't he don't see this stuff that I seen. I try to keep him away from that.

SPEAKER_10 25:53

Exactly. I know uh me and him had it, we talked about it, me and him had a conversation about about a month or so ago. We're talking about um the importance of raising your kids, and we were saying some people feel like you know it's it's good to bring your kids and let them see uh, you know, poverty or see harsh conditions as a kid to kind of enlighten them as uh to what as to what can happen. Me, I thought that, you know, it don't really matter to show your kids the hood, really. Especially if they see in certain things where their minds may be different, but he thought that maybe you should bring your kids there. How do you feel about bringing your son to this the hood, let him see what's going on?

SPEAKER_04 26:27

I wouldn't. That's what made me interested in it. I feel like that's what made me interested in in like Kensiton, like just being out here, just being around, just watching what's going on, just watching people. I feel like you a product of your environment. That's a true statement. That's really a true statement. Because it don't matter how hard I tried to stay away from K A, it never worked. I always came back. Even if I like leave for like a little month, somewhere come back. Try to leave again, come back. Like shit is a never-ending story.

SPEAKER_10 26:58

Was it any benefit? Was it it have you got any positive benefit out of out of being raised or being being around here? Like positive, something that you say this is something that's positive that I can hang my hat on.

SPEAKER_04 27:09

Yeah, I I wanna like like in the future, I wanna like open group homes and foster cares, like real ones, like good ones. I feel like what happened to me to help other people.

SPEAKER_10 27:19

And you understand the trials and tribulations that kids may be going through.

SPEAKER_04 27:23

For sure.

SPEAKER_10 27:24

Do you think it's harder on on girls than it is on boys in placement?

SPEAKER_04 27:27

No, I think it's harder on both. Boys, boys body itself more like when I was in placement. A lot of girls had more support than boys. So I actually I feel like it's harder on boys, to be honest.

SPEAKER_10 27:38

So then they cater to the women a little more. Low with girls a little more, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_04 27:40

Yeah, I think girls get way more help than boys.

SPEAKER_10 27:43

Wow.

SPEAKER_11 27:44

I I agree. I agree. That was a great assessment from me right there. But um, let's get back to what the what the what led you to doing your first bid? What led you to going to the camp? Well, you had to become of age 18 years old to even go to State Road.

SPEAKER_04 28:00

My first bid, my first bid was six months. My first bid, my friends had robbed somebody, and I was driving a car. I got pulled over in the car. After they got out the car, I got pulled over.

SPEAKER_11 28:11

Oh, so you dropped them off and kept going?

SPEAKER_04 28:13

I dropped them off and kept going.

SPEAKER_11 28:14

Somebody must have gave the description of the car.

SPEAKER_04 28:16

Yeah, the the bull said that he got robbed. So I had got booked for that. I had to beat the case like six, seven months later.

SPEAKER_10 28:24

So you you was locked up the whole time?

SPEAKER_04 28:26

Yeah. He didn't he didn't show up for court. My bell was high as shit.

SPEAKER_10 28:30

How much was your bell?

SPEAKER_04 28:31

Like 400,000.

SPEAKER_10 28:32

So they booked the guys too that was there?

SPEAKER_04 28:36

No, I'm the only one that got court. I had dropped them off. I was still in the car.

SPEAKER_10 28:41

And he said that you did it.

SPEAKER_04 28:42

No, the guy didn't say I did it. He said he no, he didn't come to court.

SPEAKER_10 28:45

But he had to say that she got around.

SPEAKER_04 28:47

But he said he got robbed and he told the district the description of the car. So when I was driving, he they grabbed me. They got me.

SPEAKER_10 28:53

Hmm.

SPEAKER_04 28:54

But then they was already dropped off.

SPEAKER_10 28:57

And this was your first time being arrested?

SPEAKER_04 28:59

That was my first time.

SPEAKER_10 29:00

And this is a major case. So, yeah. How was that for you? Like the first time being. Well, you've been in placement, but this you haven't really been.

SPEAKER_04 29:07

That was jail, jail. That was real jail.

SPEAKER_10 29:10

How was that for you? Like that going through that?

SPEAKER_04 29:12

Jail?

SPEAKER_10 29:13

Like your first being arrested and then knowing your bells are high. No, no, nobody's there to pay it.

SPEAKER_04 29:17

Oh, job was I don't I don't know. Job is horrible, but that shit is nerve-wracking.

SPEAKER_11 29:24

From the precinct, from the bottom. Tell me, tell us how, tell the audience how you felt from the precinct, and then them saying, okay, yeah, your bell wasn't paid in a certain amount of time. We got to take you up State Road. Like, what was that experience like for you? Like now you riding to pick, where was they housing the women at the time when you went?

SPEAKER_04 29:40

Um, it was COVID when I got booked. It was COVID. So we was all in like like the receiving room deep as hell. It was like And what jail? RCF.

SPEAKER_11 29:50

Okay, RCF. That's when they still had the women, because I heard the women ain't in RCF no more. They moved them. I don't know. I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 29:56

No, the girls were still in RCF.

SPEAKER_11 29:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 29:59

Yeah. We were still in RCF.

SPEAKER_02 30:01

We didn't go to pick yet.

SPEAKER_11 30:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 30:04

That was like a year or two before that.

SPEAKER_11 30:06

Was you nervous? Yeah. Why you was nervous from the stories that you heard?

SPEAKER_04 30:11

I don't like, I don't, yeah. Jail ain't fun. It ain't like you jail.

SPEAKER_11 30:15

They do strip searches on y'all, like women strip search y'all and make y'all turn around with it.

SPEAKER_04 30:20

They got a look all in your ass cheeks and all that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 30:23

That was the same way they do the men.

SPEAKER_04 30:24

You gotta take your weave out.

SPEAKER_11 30:27

You hated that.

SPEAKER_04 30:28

I don't know where we but bitches in jail was hit. I ain't gonna lie. You don't want to be in jail. Like you wanna look good. I'm I'm used to looking cute. So jail was not for me. That was horrible. You being there just looking crazy.

SPEAKER_11 30:41

Right.

SPEAKER_04 30:41

No, for real. Like, like bad. Like you could tell you in jail. Like it just the whole atmosphere just different. Like, yes, like everything's just different. You just know like you're not supposed to be there.

SPEAKER_10 30:53

It's terrible. Yeah, jail was horrible. So you now you you in jail. All right, you said you you you get this high behind bell. Did you have did you ever get did you get a lawyer or did you have a PD?

SPEAKER_04 31:03

No, he didn't show up to court. I had a PD. My first case, I had a PD. I ain't gonna lie. But he the nigga butn't showing up to court, so it wasn't no no punch. They did three times, yeah. He didn't show up, he didn't show up like three, four times.

SPEAKER_10 31:12

Wow. But now you in there, was anybody sending any commissary or I was cool in the jails.

SPEAKER_04 31:19

I had I had like a lot of family and friends support in the jail. I was cool.

SPEAKER_10 31:24

Wow. So he so he don't come to court, they let you out. Well, listen, it but I'm gonna let's go back to the jail thing. Like the band band in jail, band inside, you know, never been there before, serving eight, what, seven, eight months in there?

SPEAKER_03 31:38

Yeah, I was doing seven months at a time.

SPEAKER_10 31:40

And not experiencing that before, and then going and then going through that, what was the hardest adjustment you had to make as far as ban in there?

SPEAKER_03 31:48

In jail?

SPEAKER_10 31:49

Yeah, what's the what's the biggest adjustment for you? Like like something you said that you're like what the hell? Say it again?

SPEAKER_03 31:54

People tell you what to do all day. Like for no reason. Like if a CO having a bad day, I guarantee you having a bad day too. Like, that's just how how jail goes.

SPEAKER_10 32:05

Who works? Male or female jigards?

SPEAKER_04 32:08

Both. We have both.

SPEAKER_10 32:09

No, but who works with the club?

SPEAKER_04 32:10

No, the the female guards.

SPEAKER_11 32:12

Yeah, I would say that too.

SPEAKER_04 32:13

The female guards don't fuck with the female. I don't I think it's it's vice versa. Like the girls is good with the men, and the men is good with the girls.

SPEAKER_11 32:20

Yes, and you're absolutely correct. Because the CEOs, the girls, to they in there, some of them hating they fat and busted and disgusted.

SPEAKER_04 32:27

Well, they was in there rumbling. Them sees I ain't gonna lie, state road CEOs get busy.

SPEAKER_10 32:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 32:32

They was in here fighting, yo.

SPEAKER_10 32:34

What each other?

SPEAKER_04 32:36

Yeah. No, not each other, like the COs and the inmates was fighting a lot. Like it went down a lot in that job.

SPEAKER_11 32:42

So you'll have a lot of CO women that's fighting the Yes. It went down.

SPEAKER_03 32:46

It'd be going down on State Road.

SPEAKER_11 32:49

Yeah. See there, that's kind of crazy. It'd be going down on State Road.

SPEAKER_10 32:53

Wow. And then so you so you in there seeing all this stuff going on. Never never been in jail before. So you you said you was a little scared, right?

SPEAKER_04 33:01

Yeah, I was scared to jail.

SPEAKER_10 33:03

And did you cry at night while you were there?

SPEAKER_04 33:06

Mm-mm-I didn't cry.

SPEAKER_11 33:06

Did you get in any rumbles?

SPEAKER_04 33:08

Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_11 33:10

From old back and because I'm quite sure you've seen some kids' little people up there.

SPEAKER_04 33:13

I've heard a lot in there. I don't like, I don't like, um, like I said, I I don't like people telling me what to do. Right. Because I've always been on my own. So that was my biggest problem, like having a roommate, you know, bitches shit here, and I don't want your shit here. And you know, it's just jail. Like, it's just jail. It's just jail shit. Like, I don't know if not swinging, it's just jail shit. Like jail just annoying. Like when you wake up, you annoy, like it's just jail. When you go to sleep, you annoy, like all day long.

SPEAKER_11 33:38

24-7.

SPEAKER_04 33:39

Like you just pissed up, like shit ass.

SPEAKER_11 33:42

But you got out of there. You gotta so when you when you went down to that last court date and they threw the case out, what was your because you gotta go back to the city? I didn't even know.

SPEAKER_04 33:50

I didn't know they threw the case out. They just let me go one day.

SPEAKER_11 33:53

Oh, they just came and woke you up and was like, yo.

SPEAKER_04 33:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 33:56

You ain't even know you was getting ready to let go.

SPEAKER_04 33:57

Uh-uh.

SPEAKER_11 33:58

What that's then that what that was like? What you was sitting there playing cards or something or eating or something.

SPEAKER_04 34:02

No, I was asleep. It was like two in the morning. I remember.

SPEAKER_11 34:05

And how like they just woke you up, like, yo.

SPEAKER_04 34:07

Yeah, they said, because you know they gotta discharge you before the next quirk people leave. So you gotta wake up at like four, so they woke me at like two, it was like you're leaving. I was like, but yeah.

SPEAKER_10 34:17

Got up out of there.

SPEAKER_04 34:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 34:19

And so you come home and you went back again. How long before you got before you got booked again?

SPEAKER_04 34:25

I don't know how long the stretch was. I can't remember the stretch. I don't make enough shit, but that second bid, that was a real bit. That was that was a real that was the real deal.

SPEAKER_10 34:34

All right, what happened to the second bit?

SPEAKER_04 34:35

I had to do 23 months for what? For some years.

SPEAKER_11 34:39

That's that's two years.

SPEAKER_04 34:40

Yeah, that's two years. Yeah, they was trying to send me your state, but 23 is the max. You could do county. So my judge was nice and getting county. Not state.

SPEAKER_11 34:50

What you do?

SPEAKER_04 34:51

I got crit with some shit.

SPEAKER_11 34:54

Same thing as the first time.

SPEAKER_04 34:56

Yeah, but some super shit.

SPEAKER_11 34:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 34:59

I got indicted. I got crit with a lot of shit down here. A couple niggas.

SPEAKER_11 35:06

Anybody told on you what you took a deal to get that?

SPEAKER_04 35:08

Or no, no, no. I was the only one that got booked actually because the shit was in my bag, type shit. So they kind of just put the two and two together like during the case. They figured out all the shit was mine. My coodies, they left. They they got all the fucked up.

SPEAKER_11 35:19

Hey.

SPEAKER_04 35:20

Yeah. It was me, my sister, and my sister friend.

SPEAKER_11 35:24

And they just took you, like, yeah, come on.

SPEAKER_04 35:26

No, we all got locked up.

SPEAKER_11 35:27

Oh, but you don't only want to be locked up.

SPEAKER_04 35:28

I'm the only one that did. Yeah, I got sentenced. Didn't get sentenced.

SPEAKER_10 35:31

So Jewish casework in the block?

SPEAKER_04 35:34

That's what you want to call it.

SPEAKER_10 35:36

Yeah. So they find all this stuff in your bag. Did they book you? Um, did you have a bell or did you did you get out?

SPEAKER_04 35:46

I had a bell, but I had a Nibia, so I couldn't get out regardless.

SPEAKER_10 35:49

Oh yeah. Explain to people what that is. Who don't know?

SPEAKER_04 35:53

Nibia is if you can't, like you, like, so at that time, like I could probably afford my bell. Like you can afford your bells if you get locked up with a lot of like stuff or a lot of money, they'll like say, or even if you can pay your bell, you still can't get out. So I had that shit on my belt. I was cooked. I think you all have proof of money. Proof, you gotta have something you gotta prove, you gotta go to court to pay your bell. The shit is ridiculous. You can't get out.

SPEAKER_10 36:14

Yeah, I had to do that before my uh for my brother before.

SPEAKER_04 36:16

People went to court for for me a few times and it didn't work. It wasn't letting me out.

SPEAKER_10 36:21

Yeah, they gotta see, you got they gotta see a bank statement, they gotta see activity. It's a lot to go over.

SPEAKER_04 36:25

That was bad. I couldn't get out. Even a bell bondsman won't get you out if you got a nibby on your bell.

SPEAKER_10 36:32

Did you cry when they told you that you couldn't get out?

SPEAKER_04 36:34

That time I cried. Because I knew I was gonna be in jail for a long time. That was a lot of shit.

SPEAKER_11 36:39

Two years is a long time so you did the whole 23 months? How much was it?

SPEAKER_04 36:41

I did the whole 23 months.

SPEAKER_10 36:43

How much how much drugs was it?

SPEAKER_04 36:46

Uh a lot.

SPEAKER_10 36:49

Why you did you run? You didn't try to run when they pulled over?

SPEAKER_04 36:52

I got pulled over. My friend was driving, he he pulled over. Don't ask me why I need to be pulling over. I don't know.

SPEAKER_10 37:00

He ain't have a license or nothing.

SPEAKER_04 37:01

He just was just like uh no, they didn't give they don't give no fuck about no license down here. We ain't KA.

SPEAKER_10 37:05

Okay, none of that shit. Is it the ink? Was it the N cars or the highway cars? No, the H cars, you know, ones got the H1 or the N or the or the uh the ones got the N on those. You get pulled over by them, they going right in the car looking for guns and drugs. They don't care about no license, no.

SPEAKER_04 37:16

No, forget what we was driving. I just know they got behind us and got in front of us and turned the fucking car off. They stuck their hand in broke window and turned the car off and took the key out. It said that's our ass.

SPEAKER_10 37:31

They had you had the book bag on?

SPEAKER_04 37:33

No, it was in the car.

SPEAKER_10 37:36

So how'd they put it on you? Why why everybody just saying be quiet?

SPEAKER_04 37:39

See who Because I don't know, but I just figured like I guess throughout the case, they just figured out what was going. Like the bag was next to me when they searched the bag, it was like I'll be having bags like this. Oh so if I'm in a car with a nigga and then they like, well, the work is in the girl shit. I can't say, Oh, it was me and his shit.

SPEAKER_10 37:53

Why didn't you get out and run?

SPEAKER_04 37:54

Huh?

SPEAKER_10 37:54

Why didn't you get out and run?

SPEAKER_04 37:56

There wasn't no running. Oh, surrounded us.

SPEAKER_10 37:59

Oh, so they was it was a surveillance gent. They watched her. They had to.

SPEAKER_04 38:03

I don't know. I never, I don't know. I don't know how to. I they just was like, this was during the time, but I'm telling you, Kinsitan was bad. Like they were just frisking, like, you don't gotta do nothing. Like, like you could walk down the street, they'll just start panting you, touching you. Like, it's not it's not how KA used to be. Like, I feel like niggas just diggy and Kensiton now because of Skrilla and don't even know what Kenseton is. Like, Kensington is not no joke, like this shit not no game, like shout out to Skriller. Yeah, shout out to Skriller. People don't want to come down here no more, basically.

SPEAKER_11 38:30

Yeah, this is no shit. Would you want to come down here if you weren't from down here? Huh? Would you want to come down here if you weren't from down here?

SPEAKER_04 38:36

You know what's crazy? People love to come to Kensington. People love Kensington. Every time I go out of town, oh, can you bring me down Kissing? Can you take me down here? I want to see. I'll be like, nigga, I'm trying to get the fuck. That's why I'm down here, chill. Like, I don't know. Niggas love Kensington, but it's not what y'all think it is. It's not, it's not what it is. I'm telling you. Not that. It's just horrible. You're gonna die or you're gonna go to jail. You're not squirrely. Nine times out of ten, you're not making it out. He got lucky.

SPEAKER_10 39:04

So you um so you so real shit. So you know, you know, you know, you you know you had a uh you know you you had a uh a nebula hearing and and you wasn't getting out. So now you had to sit and go to trial for these drugs, right?

SPEAKER_02 39:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 39:18

I did I have a trial? No, I took a deal. I took a plea deal. I took the 23-month deal. I didn't go to trial.

SPEAKER_10 39:24

Did you have a lawyer?

SPEAKER_04 39:25

Mm-hmm. I had a lawyer at that time.

SPEAKER_10 39:27

Who's your lawyer at the time?

SPEAKER_04 39:28

Um, Zach Golstein.

SPEAKER_10 39:29

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 39:30

He a beast. I recommend Zach. Because I was supposed to go upstate and I didn't. That was a that was a beat. That was a win.

SPEAKER_10 39:37

All right, so you get the 23 months in the county. You said that was the hardest bit of your life.

SPEAKER_04 39:43

Yeah, that shit was rough. It was during COVID. Like, it was rough. So you locked down or locked down, we never came out, but we probably came out for an hour a day out there whole two years. Like, seriously.

SPEAKER_10 39:54

Damn.

SPEAKER_04 39:55

No, for real. Like, no bullshit. Then everybody was sick. Like.

SPEAKER_10 40:00

Did you cry this time?

SPEAKER_04 40:01

I cried a couple times. When I missed my son, I cry. I ain't gonna lie. Like when I think of my son, and like people send me pictures and shit, I start crying.

SPEAKER_10 40:09

But you know you can't get out.

SPEAKER_04 40:11

Yeah, I it's good. Uh I know I ain't killed nobody, so I ought to be home.

SPEAKER_10 40:16

So, how old was your son at the time when you uh did that two years?

SPEAKER_04 40:20

Four.

SPEAKER_10 40:20

Oh, this this recent then.

SPEAKER_04 40:22

No, he's seven.

SPEAKER_10 40:23

I'm saying I'm saying this is like a recent case. This was 2012. But you just got out. You just got out recently.

SPEAKER_04 40:27

Mm-mm. I've been home for like two years. No, almost. Well, that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_10 40:30

Like it's just like a recent case. Wow.

SPEAKER_04 40:32

Sort of recent, yeah, kind of.

SPEAKER_10 40:34

So you um, you know, sometimes when you're in jail or you're away, you know, your kids grow up and you know, you're worried about who who got your kids. Who had your son at the time when you was locked up?

SPEAKER_04 40:44

Um his dad, my sisters, my brothers, everybody had he cool. Like my son, I got like a strong support system. Like it's not like I wasn't like foster care because my family ain't wanting me. It's just like niggas just cut and get me. Like they was uh had cases or juggers, like all that shit mattered in the system, like to them. Like they would take a kid from a mother that really loved them just because their mother got a case, and you could never like my mom was trying hard as shit to get me back. Like, this is not something that nobody told me. I seen, like, I seen her go to the court deeds, like I seen her try to get a job, like I seen her, it's hard as shit. Like they'd rather give a kid to a stranger than give a kid to their parents.

SPEAKER_10 41:17

And and these in these women's jails, do they stab each other in there? In the women's jails, too?

SPEAKER_04 41:21

Nah, that's the niggas. You don't stab over there? Mm-mm. That's the boys.

SPEAKER_10 41:25

We was just a bunch of rumbling.

SPEAKER_04 41:28

Yeah, we was fighting a lot.

SPEAKER_10 41:29

Well, lock and sock, none of that.

SPEAKER_04 41:30

It was a lot. No, the girls was just rumbling a lot. The thing with the girls though was it was a lot, it was a lot of fights because you know it was girls. Yeah, so like they said it was a lot more fights. Like, it was just a men, yeah. Yeah, it's just a lot of petty dumbass fights, like just dumbass shit. Like, you just wake up and want to fight, you go in jail. For real. For real.

SPEAKER_10 41:48

So who was your celly at this time? Was your celly cool?

SPEAKER_04 41:50

My celly, I couldn't have a celly. I wasn't allowed to have a celly.

SPEAKER_10 41:53

Why not?

SPEAKER_04 41:54

I kept fighting my celllies.

SPEAKER_10 41:58

So what do they call that? Somebody who can't have a celly.

SPEAKER_04 42:00

They put they put you to the It's called um precautions.

SPEAKER_10 42:04

And the men's side, they put you to the hole for you. You don't want to take a cell. They throw you in the hole in the men jail.

SPEAKER_04 42:09

It's not that I didn't want to take a celly, then nobody wanted to be in my cell.

SPEAKER_11 42:12

What you was doing for them not to be in yourself?

SPEAKER_04 42:14

I just did. I just I was annoying, I ain't gonna lie. I probably just annoying. Because I'm like real neat. I'm real neat. I'm always cooking. I'm not I'm not the shearing bull. Like, I don't come in my cell thinking you got free comments here. No, like that's not that. Like, I don't share you petty like that. Yes, I'm petty because it's I looked out. No, no, you could look out, bro. But people, you'll get them an inch and take a mile. Like, it's different if we cooking together and all that, but you're not about to just come eat them. Then you fucked up, like, but no, bro.

SPEAKER_11 42:40

I'm not I'm in there with you, like, yo, sojo, can I can I get a soup?

SPEAKER_04 42:44

Yeah, yeah, you could get a soup, but when you keep coming, can I get a soup? Can I get some cracker? Then the stitch starts getting more expensive. Can I get a ta tuna? Can I get a comment? No, like that's when it starts. You start asking for two months, right?

SPEAKER_11 42:54

Yeah, I understand.

SPEAKER_04 42:57

But I always was a sharer, like, but that's why I just myself is not. I had one cellly that I was cool with, and we were celllies for like a long time, like seven months, some shit like that. But other than her, and she was a dyke, so that's probably why I was cool with her.

SPEAKER_10 43:08

But they they do say that the females like it was like the homosexuality is actually cool, but you was they wouldn't know.

SPEAKER_04 43:14

I don't like girls, like I don't roll that way. It just he was a dike, so she's like a nigga, so okay, not one petty ass weird, like just doing extra shit. Like it was like it's not, it wasn't like that. I just liked to she was just cool. I ain't gonna lie.

SPEAKER_11 43:24

You never had any one of them girls come at you, like damn, what's up with you?

SPEAKER_04 43:27

Oh, yeah, the dykes was on me. They loved me in the thing.

SPEAKER_11 43:30

They want to take a look at you, huh?

SPEAKER_04 43:31

Yeah, yeah, they liked me. They like me. I had tell them I don't roll that way.

SPEAKER_11 43:36

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 43:39

I don't roll that way.

SPEAKER_10 43:41

Yeah, see, jail is a whole different world. People don't really understand what like what's it's inside is inside jail for those who haven't been to jail, it's a whole different world. You got you gotta adjust so much to the atmosphere that you're in and did you run into people that may be on that type of time that she said that she's not into, you just gotta know how to do it. with it so how do you how do you how do you tell somebody no like what do you say to them when they when they you know what you mean like you know like a dike child you say no you say no yeah speak you over there top of how you do asking crazy what you mean how you say no it's like a nigga ask you can I get some ass yeah you say what you say no come on bro you can you over here you you going crazy how you how you say it come on man be explained sometimes come on man you crazy man say no you in there for you mean little volley and your feet can I get a little bit of that how you gonna say no just think about it bro duty yeah yeah what you gonna say not on duty come on man yeah but uh when it was getting close to you to get because you know what the 11 had but i i can't stand because you had 11 half to 23 or a flat 23 months no i had 11 and a half to 23 but i had to do 23 months they wanted you to do the whole thing i had to do the hook that was my like stipulation because i'm close to i've seen people get that too though yeah and then i had to do rehab after the 23 months where you go eagleville yeah my governing county sure did but you down that hill because it's like a they be on that little hill i had to do that jay man i did yeah i had to do that that the man should yeah i had to do that jay so eagleville they feed you real good up there though they feed you real and you can and you can leave i should leave at night you can leave oh no i ain't never left no i should sneak off i ain't i was on probation so if i would have gotten in trouble in that joint they would have put me back in jail okay yeah i uh i was in there quiet going to therapy and doing what i had to do yeah they had you had they had you in therapy says you be in there i be i should be in there falling asleep they uh i should leave at night i i was i had a little a little roomie and then we would uh i would just make my bed like a like it was like a um i put the pillows like like i was in the bed sleeping i hop out the window and i i get a body shout out to the v come grab me i'll be gone for the night but the um yeah i was there too so now you come home you come home eagleville it's crazy you did all that time did you go back after that mm mm that was my last that was my last job I'm cool do you see yourself going back to jail yeah I got a son that shit ain't cute saying you think you think you're gonna go back at some time at some point no if I go back to jail it'll be because somebody did something my child so why do you say you're not going back like what what what what makes you think that you're not going back to jail what is you what do you ch what have you changed about your life that makes you think I'm tired of jail I changed everything I don't I don't I don't do this thing that I used to do like I didn't care now I care like I'm not just wilding I'm just just riding around dirty just messing traps out in the open I'm not I don't just do shit no more like I'm not just trying to fight and just draw and just go to jail like I used to steal I don't be stealing no more so you used to boost going there and uh boost it I should just steal shit still what like what anything anything went there get it to me get it to me anything times just hard people be lying I don't be lying I'm telling the truth so you just you see something you want you you go you could just walk out with it so that's yo people don't really understand like I always wanted to really really ask this question to people that that just that still right do you think that stealing is a is an addiction especially when you get in the way with it yeah stealing is an addiction but it depends on what you still like I wasn't doing no dirty shit like I'm not gonna go to my front house and steal like I was just taking shit like for the story like oh that's nice let me get this for free like I ain't gonna come to your house and steal your sneakers or something bro like it's a difference yeah it's a big difference that that's that that's that's not it that's not even the thief smite that's what she like she said she said that's the dirty shit yeah smite is still not your house you're that's dirty you know I mean you I bite you out but I still out your house oh yeah I stole out there a couple times I went in your your main apartment I went in your room is that stealing too yeah you stole from your manager yeah but I come out yeah I mean he might have some shit that he ain't never wore tag one he ain't wear that no time soon that's still it because I come around him with it no it's still in if you you know you just taking the shit and you know he don't know you post a picture and he got your shirt on some shit yeah yeah yeah yeah I bit through that motherfucker stole my shit yeah that's that's how I feel I bit through that with him yeah wow I done see it by side was I'm like dang hold on so you go so you um you now you you you home you said you want to do two things different for your son you want to want to change you know your life around and and and uh be a uh you know more of a positive role model yeah what was the biggest change that you made in your life that makes you feel like you you know you're not gonna be I had to leave K and A.

SPEAKER_04 49:00

That was yeah no like I had to leave this shit.

SPEAKER_10 49:05

It don't be it don't be calling you back like you know So Joe.

SPEAKER_04 49:09

Oh the time it's calling me right now I wanna go leave and go in the game and press the button right now I gotta go home I can't do it no more it's not at the same time you might take you might stop a couple places on the way out the dog you might I can see it is not out this mother okay and then I won't okay when I get past Fox Street now we may be talking let me ask you something if you never did no jail time right you never did none of these stints that you set up here and explain to us in the audience would you still have that mentality of the streets honestly do you think jail gave you a whole nother perspective also I don't got no more chances it's a difference once you keep going to jail when you on probation like I'm not going get locked up for some shit and get a slap on the wrist this time like it's like you know the judge start getting tired of you at the route like I'm on my last strike so like yeah I'm not you gotta go see your back your back judge is you on parole or probation right now I'm on probation a lot of time left on it um couple years left a couple years left oh yeah you you you you good you good you good to the you know I'm doing good though my my PO she she knows what's going on she see the progress okay good shout out to you shout out to the PO you want high urine away from you know I mean sitting down what'd you say you want high urine from sitting down you can't even yeah she knows I smoke weed though the weed cool yeah the weed cool they didn't made the weed cooler unless you federal I don't get high no more I don't get high no more get high of what I used to take perks I ain't gonna lie okay yeah but I but that was like a year two years ago how was that for you perks was that hard for you nah I wasn't really like stuck on them like hot niggas stuck on them I just was like taking them just taking them I ain't really had like no fucking little 15s 10s or you was a 30 queen I'm taking them 30 little 20 ball Jamal that's pushing it I think of 15 is like uh little teenage that we call them teenagers yeah the 15s it keep your back straight okay that it gets you right where you need to be keep you right on the you pull right up with that nip chain in you okay I get it but yeah I'm cool off them joints no hard drug no no no dope or nothing like that no no hell no I ain't never did that I'm from K and A I would never like I see what it's do I could see I see like I got friends that I've seen that went from do a part because it's crazy you said that because the pills lead to the dope that's why people start doing dope when during COVID because it's cheap right yeah and the fucking perks was what a hundred dollars a pop well but back COVID time that's what I'm saying if you got a habit your shit you need two three four pills that's a $500 a day habit but they was giving out all that money so it was easy niggas was spending that money on chains and but you was getting it every week dumb ass shit bro so where the money at oh net they spunk it all up that's what I'm saying perks and chains that's what I'm saying shit is over shit perks and chains perks and chains perks and chains little head to him dead all that type of shit everything is going on during covet time everything everything yeah covert was a yeah covert was a a a crazy what's the youngest person you've seen that was strung out on perksets and and and and then led to dope the youngest I'm quite sure you done seen some shit I don't want to I'm not gonna lie I I know who came right to my head but I don't want to say it's man they can say they can say it at age shit ain't like then it's a sad I'ma say a rapper that everybody knows down here and I really feel for him because I know he been through a lot of shit. So it's not like some people really just get high because they don't got no other like support or resource or something. So I don't want to like say it as like damn they like fucked up over because I also know people that got off of that shit.

SPEAKER_11 52:38

Right. So like I don't know you yourself got off of it.

SPEAKER_04 52:41

Okay I got off you hear me yeah I got off a prick so I don't I don't know I feel like you gotta want to do what you you you got you gotta that's a different lane that's a whole different lane. I don't even know how I get it out.

SPEAKER_10 52:54

Well so what I'm saying I'm talking about the youngest age because you know you know it's kids that are that are addicted to dope.

SPEAKER_04 52:59

Like young teenage I know I would say I I know people my age because I I done been in school with people that get high on them like I see them high or I remember one time my friend cop dope with me I would cry I remember that I never heard that hurt you right yeah I never forget that day I was the I didn't go I didn't I didn't give it to her my friend gave it to her I wasn't trying to give it to her but he like I mean she's gonna get it from somebody else I'm like that shit was crazy.

SPEAKER_10 53:26

That hit a little bit that that kind of touched me and my best friend he died off of fake perks too there's some kind of fake perks around her so hold on you so let's go back to your friend so she just approached you out of the blue you saw you was outside she's walked up and said and I'll never forget her because we used to go to school together.

SPEAKER_04 53:41

We used to dance together like like cheerleading shit like first grade second grade I'll never forget her and she caught dope she attempted to caught a dope buff and me I didn't give it to her now what'd you say to her?

SPEAKER_10 53:54

Nothing I just was looking I didn't tell her that I knew her I just was looking and she didn't even know who you was probably I don't think so I don't think so that didn't make you want to stop like damn I gotta stop doing this no sorry that's what it that's what it meant but no that's not I wanted to stop when I you know when my son getting older and I can't leave that's when I want to stop wow that's crazy because like you know a lot of like I when I leave here a lot of time I see like young people like one day I was the um down here one time and it was a it was a guy that I seen that I knew that I grew up with um I was walking past the store and I seen him he was like like like a well denied walk he was he was denied it but he was walking and I seen him I'm like dang and I was like I kind of like grew up with him and I'm like dang I even seen uh some people that I that a friend of mine his son out here saw his son yeah bro that'd be the worst too like when somebody come up to you looking for somebody like you know how many times like people came looking for their family out here like like and you feel when somebody clip them I don't know that just be weird like damn I ain't seen them but somebody it's really people that stay out here like come from anywhere Michigan they out Kensington looking for their kid or something they not leaving so they find a kid and then you think that they never gonna find a kid like I did that I did that one time looking for looking for um um my wife family member he was down here he passed away Rahimallah he passed away but we used to come looking for him yeah that's a hurt piece too it's a lot of shit that it cook you like and it's people now Kensington it's people from all over United States is down here.

SPEAKER_04 55:32

Yeah because Kensington I heard this the only uh place that uh what is it put Fetty and trinkin's shit they come down here to chase the trink high they don't got that number of so it's people from Kensington that's from every part of the United States like and they get stuck down here and they don't leave.

SPEAKER_10 55:49

How many college students you seen down here?

SPEAKER_04 55:51

How many what? College kids oh I don't see college kids come down this way.

SPEAKER_10 55:55

I'm saying that people that were in college that that that had a career that started using dope.

SPEAKER_04 55:59

Feel victim to it to a dope I don't know I never seen like no college kids going bad I seen just a lot of kids that I grew up with or went to school with that just was like strung out or high or some shit now.

SPEAKER_10 56:11

I saw like a documentary where they said it was like doctors and lawyers and you know people who would work regular nine to fives and that you know that ended up using dope just regular people that just somebody in the comments says so they like the fake ones over the real that's really a good question. Do they yes shout out to 215 nitro that's a good question.

SPEAKER_04 56:32

I was gonna say about that I think people because you know pricks is addicted fentanyl is way more addicted to pricks and once you start doing the fentanyl you can't stop doing the fentanyl so now you're not so you don't necessarily die of the fentanyl right away I do available if you take too much you can pass away but it's like you is you go through withdrawal so if you start taking a fetty pill and now you're not taking a fetty pill no more you're gonna get sick so now you gotta keep taking the fatty pills people not doing it to get high they doing it to not be sick. Mm-hmm that's like the fiends around here like they're not high no more they're just trying not to die. Exactly no seriously like that uh that trying to shake it that trying to that trying to just go cold turkey that's the hard for that that that'll kill you damn there that's what I'm saying like it's people that can't do it like you is people that's on so much don't that if they stop doing it they will die.

SPEAKER_11 57:21

Like that's a real thing wow like if they stop they would so is it any facility like for people so but but I know that people they get like the um what's it called when they when they trying to kill the uh the subs Sebastian oh yeah that's prevention point down there they probably got a bunch of them down here don't they yeah Kensiton got a lot of like prevention points and stuff all the fiends do is sell the goddamn subactions that's how the fucking dope yeah that's it sell them the body dope they get them a whole box of them they slide up on your neighborhoods bodies they back down here trying to get their issue dang and like you said it's these is people family members who down here just missing and it it get real bad in the wintertime down this joint the wintertime it gives you it get bad man people be outside this people it be freezing out this joint summertime it gets I was about to say I think it's worse than the summertime summertime they don't got hot ass ground face when the ground so fucking bad down candy in the summertime I'd rather it be cool like bodies it's like it's my old deep feet ass and fucking everything down here balls everything coochies it's popping them popping you know you ain't yeah it's joint crazy you know that joint get crazy we be riding past and you got them laid out on a and the ground is hot bro when it's 94 95 degrees that ground is scorching they don't even feel it you'll walk up and see somebody on a whole mitt no real shit is too hot on a mitt they get up off that joint that joint be sizzling first for real like it was in the stove like they don't even feel it because it's too hot straight up bro that's a it's not funny man it's not funny it's terrible man i know we laughing about it but that's that's somebody somebody that was somebody's kid like you know like like I hold my son you know and I look at him and I'll be like damn if somebody held these individuals that time at one time or another as their child and your child out there on the concrete with his face on the ground why is it why why would they they they they uh they backs be like they be like bent over what what does that come from well she probably don't know that but they they getting high bro you got high before stuff acting crazy i don't know why is they but you've been drinking when you drink you you get you get in the goddamn stupor you caught me the other night like i was thought you thought i was on dough i had a little sip that you know i mean but i don't i don't vouch for that i ain't telling y'all to go drink or none of that but them drugs when you get into your groove you you're leaning over only drug you ain't leaning over of is crap cocaine and marijuana and some marijuana might be i would just suggest don't get high at all just don't try it i would just suggest especially now it's not the same drugs as is how it was it's dangerous like my friends has passed away from drugs seriously seriously it's not cool stay away from drugs that's a real thing that shit hard is shit to get over like yeah I can only imagine for real and people die behind it the withdrawal no not even the withdrawal just going through it just overdose you know I mean withdrawals when you can't get it you know withdrawal you know you might not die and become bright again then you gotta see some of the shit people do to get high like like what explain putting it in their brains yeah it ain't just the orm hits no no she's saying what they do to get high like how do you what do you mean by that like what do you mean like the the the wrist they take both both have a point but yes the wrists and that part once they can't get high right here no more they gotta start getting high on their ass and they coochie and they feet and all kinds of crazy shit.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:00

Wow so what you mean like in the coochie how you how would one because I want the I've seen that before like in the coochie like what you hit inside the coochie or on the side of the coach stop working because they shoot up so much and now they don't got no veins and they veins and they shit stop working they don't got no skin damn near I know y'all seen the alligator trink shit they looking like damn near real life alligators like they can't shoot nowhere but in their ass or just somewhere else like that's an inside part because there's nowhere to shoot on the outside that's a real thing.

SPEAKER_11 1:01:27

Wow and they cool like let me go I gotta go to the side real fast and hit my job.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:31

Yeah that's crazy to see you laughing even weed like yo it was this it was this fucking pinship rumor everybody know the block I ain't gonna say it but it was this rumor what they was saying is spraying fucking fentanyl on the weed like I'm talking about this block used to be rolling everybody was buying weed off their joint all day every day weed weed weed weed that shit a million dollar weed block you know I mean people they hear high off of fentanyl weed everybody going to jail pop up piss dirty fentanyl this then dirty yes off the weed yes off the weed they were spraying weed yes like you gotta be careful down here it's all fentanyl if you don't want no fentanyl you shouldn't be in Kensington like I feel like if you're in Kinseton trying to get high you're looking for fentanyl like there's no way around it like you shouldn't be looking for the type of drug down here. Yeah why are you here like if you agree like if you're not getting weed off a trusted dealer fuck it it ain't worth it for real don't come down Kinson looking to get high wow it's crazy so they put they so they like they sprinkle fent fentanyl on everything yeah just to get you a little higher and get you more addicted yes get you more addicted and get you a little bit more higher and you like that's the best we'd ever had in my life but it it got fentanyl in it.

SPEAKER_11 1:02:45

Yeah what did um Trump say about fentanyl he says he's he said he's treating it as a a weapon of mass destruction so whoever is caught with it you could he ain't talking about a gun and we know a gun kills instantly that's got a time getting locked up with drugs your gravity score will be higher than catching a murder or uh yeah aggravated assault like my gravity score is damn near on the fucking uh serial killer level for some fucking fentanyl seriously that's what I'm saying I'm on my last strike like so you got quilt with fentanyl before I got locked up with fentanyl and crank and that's what I was there two years the two years for it was all fentanyl and I don't even know it was like I wasn't into it that deep at that time to know what was in it. Is it true because we got somebody up here which is you is it true if you touch it raw you could pass right out yeah you don't touch it raw you're not supposed to touch it at all at all so what if I'm you're not even supposed to inhale it. That's what I was about to say what if I got gloves and stuff on and you know it'd be like blue but you're not supposed to it'll put you right out yeah no it could kill you fuck putting you out kill you if you never did it you could die could die yeah that's one drug I won't be around I saw I saw a cop touch it one time and passed out yeah I seen that before too and they gotta give them that norcane and all that that's why they asked you what you got on you not just for the needles but for the you might got some fentanyl on you or something like that. Yeah you still on that track young uh you still message it uh no I stopped doing that like six seven years ago boy I ain't never get out of there you still on that she like I got real interested yeah she looked like black on that part no no I ain't doing that part yeah but you know like so Trank is as a it's tranquilizer like what that's horse tranquilizers is what they use to put down horses a wh a horse bead an elephant the elephant is 1500 tons 1500 tons all over the tons 1500 tons like it fits that damn for real 1500 tons what is it 1500 pounds probably like two maybe two tons something say hey yo family how many what's a horse a thousand tons and they did a horse of a thousand tons elephant a thousand a thousand elephant is like two tons but I'm just trying to show you the magnitude of this one dart that can put an elephant down bro this tranquilizer so imagine what it we ain't nowhere nearer but they're making people people get a small amount of it like they get they get like a little a little just a little the horse and elephant get a small amount like when they hit it it say 15 000 pounds but it don't say tons yeah what's 15 when you pound it when you get it into tons what's 15 15 000 pounds is crazy bro how many tons is that a human is only 180 pounds 1500 pounds yo but the the thing about it is this though what who came up with the the idea to put tranquilizer in dope that this had this had to be something new right this wasn't just this this hasn't just come out like like in the last five to ten years this wasn't like actually it did that's what I'm saying this helps you save money oh it's a thousand tons is an elephant yeah so it's like you you elephant no thousand

SPEAKER_10 1:06:00

Tons.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:00

Yo, yeah, still the fucking elephant in the room. No, man. All the comments on the elephant.

SPEAKER_10 1:06:06

Listen to him. A car weigh a ton, man.

SPEAKER_11 1:06:11

No, they saying I'm right though.

SPEAKER_10 1:06:13

No, it's what you would not even do a movie.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:16

15,000 tons of money. That's a lot.

SPEAKER_10 1:06:18

It's a lot. He don't don't pay him no mind. He'll figure it out.

SPEAKER_11 1:06:22

Turkey Benz, you think I'm slow? I think I got it right. I don't know. We get well, I'll I'll go find out the exact facts later on when you.

SPEAKER_10 1:06:31

Yeah, so but the thing, the thing about it is this though. Um, this, like I said, this tranquilizer stuff and this fentanyl, because fentanyl just just coming out. Like, like I said, the last what five, ten years, maybe.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:45

So fentanyl always been out, but it was it was a it's a it's a medication, so it was safe. People are abusing it and putting shit with it that's not supposed to go with it. It was never the drugs that was the problem. They are like rich drug dealers always be like, it's not the drug, it's the cut, like it's the Yeah, I heard that a lot. Yeah, yeah. They always hit it. So, like, you're not gonna die from doing coke, but you're gonna die from doing coke with fentanyl on a drink because a dealer trying to save a couple dollars. Like, that's where you're gonna die.

SPEAKER_10 1:07:11

I'm gonna say, I'm asking a question. How often do you see drug dealers that have have like a run, then they had to get killed or be in jail for a long time?

SPEAKER_04 1:07:17

I ain't never met no drug dealer that had a a run that's still alive or could live to talk about the run from not a state penitentiary or something.

SPEAKER_10 1:07:26

Wow.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:27

Never, I don't think. How many drug deals you've seen in your life that that you I a lot of them, but I don't see no rich, like I made it, nigga, I made it. I ain't see one of them yet.

SPEAKER_10 1:07:36

Well, how many how often do you see them like end up end up dead or in jail?

SPEAKER_04 1:07:40

A lot. Uh most I would say 99.9% of the time you're gonna die or go to jail. In kids in 10, I don't know what they got going on in other states. I know what the fuck is going on down here.

SPEAKER_10 1:07:50

How fast do they switch them blocks? Like, say, say, you know, he had a block, and like I said, we could say for so to speak, a million dollar block. And then he ended up go going to jail, right? How fast does Smiles be on opening up that block, get getting back out there, get it back going?

SPEAKER_04 1:08:05

Like if he go to jail, yeah, uh, somebody gonna be on the next shift.

SPEAKER_11 1:08:09

That night.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:10

That same no fuck the night. Call somebody, uh, come take this pack. Yeah. Don't nobody give a fuck about you in jail. I you know, bro, no, no bullshit. I didn't pay the couple bells. Like, I had niggas call me, like, yeah, such and such ain't doing such and such. Like, like when you go to jail, you'll really see like this shit ain't cool. Like, if you don't got your own money or your own work, it really ain't worth it, I feel like. I don't think it's worth it. I used to think it's worth it, but then also Kensington is not the same as it was even just two or three years ago.

SPEAKER_11 1:08:39

It's changing as the day goes on.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:41

Yeah, this Kensington's not Kensington no more. This shit is about to be done up.

SPEAKER_11 1:08:45

So, what advice would you have for the people that's going out there trying to open up blocks on Kensington right now? And if you can piss something off there for the kids, the girls, the boys that's thinking about trapping, and they're like, damn, K and A, we can go in here and get it off real fast. What would your advice to them be?

SPEAKER_04 1:08:59

That is your ass. If you go down that motherfucker trying to trap, you're gonna go to jail.

SPEAKER_10 1:09:08

I wanna take a brief pause and say something. Uh, yo, listen, y'all. Everybody, I want to tell y'all we got the uh live event. Is that the date is set, July 18th at World Live Cafe. July 18th is gonna be our live event. Tickets and everything is gonna be on sale real soon, man. We're gonna um do it crazy. Uh, July 18th at the World Live Cafe. I just want to say that to y'all. The date is set, July 18th. So we're gonna we're gonna put the uh you know information for tickets and everything real soon. But July 18th is gonna be the live event at World Live Cafe.

SPEAKER_11 1:09:41

Then we're gonna really see how much y'all love us and we family. Uh uh uh uh uh James LaFlane, yeah, yeah. Uh Dark Skin Beauty, yeah. And everybody. I'm just naming them two because they be on my line all the time. This is our first live event. You know what I'm saying? Uh what is this called?

SPEAKER_10 1:10:00

World Live Cafe. World Live Cafe. Where is that at again? World Live Cafe is located at 3025 Walnut Street, Philadelphia Play.

SPEAKER_11 1:10:08

What area 19104? We is not in the slums, we is not in KA with this. We down there by University of Penn with police will be patrolling. They have a lot of parking underneath the bridge, a lot of parking. So everybody should be uh accommodated correctly as far as parking goes. There will be merch there. Uh, we're gonna go in there and turn it up, man. We're gonna go in there and turn up and bring this awareness at an alarming weight.

SPEAKER_10 1:10:34

Yeah, July 18th, World Live Cafe, Telsman Jails live event. So let's get back to you. So we're just talking about you said you wouldn't advise anybody to go down Kinson and go down there and and and start um, you know, selling drugs because they they're gonna go to jail. Is people really getting getting killed over these blocks?

SPEAKER_04 1:10:53

Like they let's I got shot over a block.

SPEAKER_10 1:10:57

You got shot?

SPEAKER_03 1:10:58

I got shot over a block.

SPEAKER_10 1:10:59

Let's talk about that. Everybody know you got shot.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:00

It wasn't for me, but I was trapping trying to get some money where niggas say y'all can't get no money at. It get like that. Niggas say we not moving.

SPEAKER_11 1:11:09

Where did you get shot at?

SPEAKER_03 1:11:10

My ass.

SPEAKER_11 1:11:12

You better off have a dog bite you on your ass. Did you know you was hit or you ain't know it till a little bit later?

SPEAKER_03 1:11:19

Yeah, I knew that shit hurt.

SPEAKER_11 1:11:21

Yeah, yeah. He said that shit hurt. I know that's right. So yeah, hurt.

SPEAKER_10 1:11:26

What shit would you get shot with?

SPEAKER_04 1:11:28

Uh, I think it was a little 22 or something.

SPEAKER_10 1:11:30

It was a 22.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:31

I think it was some little some little dumb ass shit, but yeah, I got shot at him.

SPEAKER_10 1:11:34

So what did he say to you? He just shot you like, yo, get out of there.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:37

No, they were shooting at the block. Like they was shooting at everybody that was outside trepping.

SPEAKER_10 1:11:40

With a 22?

SPEAKER_04 1:11:42

Something. It was something shit. I got hit with some little shit though. It was little.

SPEAKER_10 1:11:45

Oh, so it was multiple people shooting?

SPEAKER_04 1:11:46

I think so. It was multiple people.

SPEAKER_10 1:11:48

And you got hit. How did you got hit? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:50

I was running. That's some rush.

SPEAKER_10 1:11:54

Yeah, I know. I got shot too. No joke. No laughing matter when you get shot. I got hit with a 40 on duty.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:01

Yeah, I would have my little ass would have not survived that.

SPEAKER_10 1:12:05

So did you cry when you got shot?

SPEAKER_04 1:12:06

No, I was screaming. I was jumping up and down. The fiends was telling me to calm down. Shit. Some lady I know she she laid me in the car in my back seat and she was just rubbing and they they took it out.

SPEAKER_10 1:12:16

The bullet came out in the back of the car seat?

SPEAKER_04 1:12:18

Mm-hmm. They took it out in the back of the car, the fiends. The fiends is really nice people. They just strung out.

SPEAKER_10 1:12:22

Yeah, that's it.

SPEAKER_11 1:12:23

They died. That might have been a doctor.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:26

Yeah, they stayed with me and everything. They was she cool.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:29

They made sure I was cool.

SPEAKER_11 1:12:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:31

Yeah, they was easy.

SPEAKER_11 1:12:32

I believe that wholeheartedly.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:33

Really? They made sure I was cool.

SPEAKER_11 1:12:35

Did you go to the hospital?

SPEAKER_04 1:12:36

Nope.

SPEAKER_11 1:12:37

You go to the hospital either? Nope. You ain't go to the hospital at all. So the bullet's still in your ass.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:41

No, because I would have gone to the hospital. I probably would have led to some questioning and all the time. I'm out there selling drugs. Why the fuck is I'm even out there?

SPEAKER_11 1:12:47

So the bullet is in your ass.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:48

No, it's not in there. It's going, it's out. Wow.

SPEAKER_11 1:12:51

But you took it out.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:52

The fees took it out.

SPEAKER_11 1:12:54

Yeah, I know that to be true too. So it must have been a light young. It wasn't nothing.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:59

Yeah, it wasn't like no.

SPEAKER_11 1:13:00

If you'd have got hit in that ass with that 40, that full flip, that cheek would have fallen off. Yeah, one of them, both of them brought, but the cheek would have hit the ground. You would have needed emergency assistance. ASAP.

SPEAKER_10 1:13:11

Yeah. Yeah, she said it was a 22.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:14

Yo, it was. I could tell it was. It was on little shit.

SPEAKER_10 1:13:17

With a bull of that night, you kept it as a souvenir?

SPEAKER_04 1:13:19

No, I don't got no fucking bully souvenir.

SPEAKER_10 1:13:21

So hold on, did you get a tattoo to cover it or something like that?

SPEAKER_04 1:13:25

No, you can't see either. I wasn't saying that.

SPEAKER_11 1:13:28

I wasn't gonna say that.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:36

This shit got used to me.

SPEAKER_10 1:13:37

He shouldn't eat gunpowder off. They eat gunpowder.

SPEAKER_13 1:13:44

Yo, that's exactly how I was looking at yo.

SPEAKER_10 1:13:48

Yeah, so all right, so you got hit with that that that that 22. And you still kept hustling after that.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:54

Oh, I didn't even go in the house. I was still outside. I had to get my pack off. The owner not trying to hear that. That shit don't matter. Your job is to bring back the money, whichever means necessary. You don't do that.

SPEAKER_10 1:14:06

And shot off and everything. He don't do that.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:09

What you got going on?

SPEAKER_10 1:14:10

Yeah. So you so you go back like I got shit. You walking up to the girl's buddy limping, like I got shot today.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:15

No, I wasn't even limping. What's funny is he was right there. The owner was right there. He was there. He knew what happened. He was they was laughing and shit. They thought it was funny. After the everybody, after everybody felt I was okay, everybody threw it funny.

SPEAKER_10 1:14:24

So you only know who got hit. Only you.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:26

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_10 1:14:28

That's messed up, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:29

Yep. That's why it's not worth it. It just be all this extra dumb ass shit for no reason.

SPEAKER_10 1:14:34

Mm-hmm. So they started shooting and you out of everybody. How many people was out there?

SPEAKER_04 1:14:38

A lot. It was a lot of people.

SPEAKER_10 1:14:39

And you the only one that got hit.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:41

Yes. It had to be like 10. It had to be like 12 niggas outside, bro.

SPEAKER_10 1:14:47

Hit you. Oh, they had a that you had a heat secret, he secret bullet on it for you. Your name on it.

unknown 1:14:53

I don't look at the heads.

SPEAKER_10 1:14:54

Yeah, man. So, but no, but but that that probably was just the time, the the reminder for you to, you know, get your, you know, start doing the right thing, get yourself together. That probably was what it would have was a little shot in the behind.

SPEAKER_11 1:15:03

Yeah, that too, that too, right along with you being in prison, all that.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:06

I would say a lot of shit that had been made me like, man, I'm getting sick of this shit.

SPEAKER_10 1:15:10

Like what else happen?

SPEAKER_04 1:15:13

Bro, tens of tens is is every day. It's a story. I can go on it on it on.

SPEAKER_10 1:15:18

Like worst thing you ever saw happen out there.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:20

Huh?

SPEAKER_10 1:15:21

The worst thing you ever seen happen.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:23

Somebody pass away. Like an OD. The fiends die a lot. Like you walk, you you probably walk over a body and don't even know the fiend did the whole time they did.

SPEAKER_10 1:15:35

Just lay it out.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:36

Yeah, because like down here, a lot of people be having Narcane and shit. Like you're supposed to like have Narcane to save him and shit. And one time I had to say, I didn't know what the fuck I was doing. But somebody else did it. But he he passed away. That was scary. It was scary because like, damn, I could've did that to some people. Like I could have sold somebody, something he passed. Like it just makes you think, like, damn, like.

SPEAKER_10 1:15:56

Wow. What happens when they say that is uh like I heard something where they said like whenever somebody died on the block, the fiends wanna go get that dope. Where he died at and they want to go find that.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:05

Wait, what you said?

SPEAKER_10 1:16:06

Like, if somebody like say, say, you know, he's a he's a he he he's on dope, or or somebody on dope, right? And a fiend may want to go, or drug addict may want to go to the block where the people are are binding and dying. They want they want they want to get that high.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:21

It's called it's called stamp chasing.

SPEAKER_10 1:16:24

So they want that stamp that kills you.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:26

That's what they do in because they want the best shit. So the best shit to the fiends is who passing out, who slumped over, who dying, who sleep, who So if they all over on this side, they hear like such and such, just dying up the street off that shit.

SPEAKER_11 1:16:38

Yeah, they running right up there.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:39

Yeah, that's how that shit'll be.

SPEAKER_10 1:16:42

Do you think they want to die?

SPEAKER_04 1:16:44

I don't think anybody did die.

SPEAKER_10 1:16:49

And they just want to want to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:50

I know what you're trying to say. Like they'll give up, like just give up.

SPEAKER_10 1:16:53

I want to just be over with.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:54

Yeah. I feel like I feel like I feel like the fiends down here just I think they stuck. I I honestly think they stuck. I don't think it's no getting off of it, like getting out of that shit. Like the shit that's in a body is shit where if they literally stop using it, it's over. Like they're gonna die. You can't stop, even if you wanted to. It's like the withdrawal, like you're gonna die. They're not getting high, they're getting well.

SPEAKER_10 1:17:16

Wow. So listen, like I know when you get shot, right? I'm gonna go back to this. When you get shot, right, you bleed a lot. So, how do you stop the bleeding?

SPEAKER_03 1:17:26

I didn't bleed.

SPEAKER_10 1:17:27

You didn't bleed when you got shot?

SPEAKER_03 1:17:29

Mm-mm.

SPEAKER_10 1:17:31

Yep, we got buns of steel or something like that, huh?

SPEAKER_03 1:17:34

Nah, I really ain't bleed. I seen people get shot that didn't bleed. Everybody don't bleed. That'd be some movie shit.

SPEAKER_10 1:17:39

Man, I was bleeding like a daggone, like a slaughtered lamb.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:42

My friend, my friend got shot in the car with a girl.

SPEAKER_11 1:17:45

You might gotta pass that shit though, Sojo. You gotta you might gotta because I'm gonna hit that motherfucker. Cause you know, I mean, me growing up, and I did a lot of wild sh I ain't never seen a nigga get shot that don't bleed. Yeah, and I ain't gonna get into my background stories, but boy, I done did a lot of work out there.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:03

Me too, but I seen I seen people get shot and don't bleed.

SPEAKER_11 1:18:07

But you know what though, you might be right because I was selling these with a psychopath, man. I told you about this topic, and you know who I'm talking about. Shout out to him. I ain't gonna put his name out there. He he was telling me one day about one of his murders, and he like, you ain't never shoot a person. Like, I shot him in his head so many times that it was foam and wasn't no blood. I'm looking at him and I'm looking at his eyes, like, damn, this nigga going. And I ain't want to tell him, like, man, you lying. That's what I wanted to say, but I'm like, this nigga might come at me. So I'm like, well shit, that's but that's what he told me. He said, Man, listen, man, you can shoot a motherfucker so they don't bleed. I'm like, all right. But I ain't the people I seen get shot, blood. Yeah, be too.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:41

I mean, I seen people bleed, but I've seen people not bleed too. I didn't bleed. It was a girl I was with in a car, she got shot four times. She didn't bleed, not one time, like from not one bullet. I think that's how people be surviving. I think people die off of bleeding out. Like, I think when people survive gunshots, it's literally because they didn't like bleed out.

SPEAKER_10 1:18:58

But I was bleeding like a dagger, man. Like I said, it was blood everywhere.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:02

Yeah, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_10 1:19:03

I ain't I ain't uh but I ain't I never seen I never seen nobody get shot and don't and don't bleed. I never seen it before. But you see, you you experienced that so um now uh Kendison, once again we talk about this this this area. We see like you spoke about Skriller, Skriller band down here, and um Skriller always comes down and I see him like you know giving the people down here, excuse me, clothes to put on. He gives them like you know like high-end clothes to wear. They don't want to sell that.

SPEAKER_11 1:19:34

You give me a high if I'm on it, but he makes video, he put them in a video to wear it. Yeah, I could do yeah. Oh, he taking it he's not taking it back to the body. I don't know, but these motherfuckers don't let it be a summer.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:48

I'm gonna vouch. I'm a vouch for I'm gonna vouch for him. I seen him really give shit out and leave.

SPEAKER_11 1:19:52

Yeah, I'm I'm I'm only a get I'm only a guessing. Would you what would you do if you gave a nigga a Gucci shirt and all that, and he bouncing up and down all that, and he's stinking like shit after the joint over be like, let me get that shirt back.

SPEAKER_10 1:20:03

No, you let somebody leave with that. I'm not giving it off if I'm gonna phone ask for it back. I'm not gonna do that. Exactly.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:08

Yeah, I never seen him at that nutty. The fiend's last girl. He's doing something right.

SPEAKER_10 1:20:12

Who else was down here? Um, that's Ryder.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:15

Oh, that's I don't know him.

SPEAKER_10 1:20:16

Yeah, or that's Ryder. I think he's down his way too. Oh, that's Ryder.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:20

I know of him, I know he read, but I know he's doing his thing, but I don't know him.

SPEAKER_10 1:20:23

Yeah, he yeah, he from uh down down his way too. But yeah, man, you know, so um this is a great interview. Uh uh for me. It's it's uh laugh a lot.

SPEAKER_11 1:20:33

Shout out to Sojo, man. You know what I'm saying? Uh we already started to get to what get to the calls, no? Yeah, y'all. Yeah, if y'all want to talk to Sojo, ask some questions. Calls.

SPEAKER_10 1:20:41

Ask you some questions. They call in.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:42

They're gonna come in, yeah.

SPEAKER_11 1:20:43

Right now. Let them call in, man. Ask a couple questions. Get to it. Don't forget, y'all. July 18th. A movie.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:52

You're gonna be there coming. I'ma come.

SPEAKER_11 1:20:54

You coming?

SPEAKER_04 1:20:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 1:20:55

And we're gonna pass the mic around. Everybody get to ask their own little questions and all that.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:59

I'ma come. I'm gonna be supportive.

SPEAKER_11 1:21:01

Thank you. Appreciate that. Bring the squad out. Bring some Kenzo babies with you if you're gonna be. They said you got shot with a BB gun, man. Uh boy.

SPEAKER_10 1:21:12

What's the number? What's the number? 215-316-4492. Hopefully it's paid. 215-316-4492. Yo. Shout out to John Michael, shout out to you. Band, shout out to 215.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:27

No, ain't no goddamn no shout out to no goddamn John Michael. What is he saying? John Michael talking about we don't want to talk the heck. Well, have your ass off the screen.

SPEAKER_11 1:21:34

John Michael, you go get a hot nail. Calm down, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:37

Relax your titties.

SPEAKER_11 1:21:41

Call in, man. Call in, man. Uh uh uh Nitro said as soon as the tickets on sale, we're gonna bring, we just letting you know that we got the place, we got it for that date. Within the next week coming up, we're gonna have uh all the uh the time. You know, you got the date right now. You could, you know, whatever you want to wear, it ain't no dress-up type thing, man. We going ahead and what we're trying to do is like we say, we're trying to spread the uh the message at our warming rate.

SPEAKER_10 1:22:07

Tell us Mr. Jells, we speaking with. What's going on, bro? How you doing, man?

SPEAKER_07 1:22:15

What's up? What's up? What's up?

SPEAKER_04 1:22:26

I believe that Jesus Christ died on the cross for my sins. That's what I believe.

SPEAKER_10 1:23:35

I appreciate you. Appreciate you. Enjoy enjoy your day, man. Thanks for calling in. Thanks, appreciate you. I'm sorry, we didn't she laughed at the comments. Y'all can call in, man, and and and uh and and uh ask questions if you like.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:58

You know y'all don't got no questions. Y'all had all the shit to say.

SPEAKER_10 1:24:03

They're gonna be calling in.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:06

Oh, well, pause. Let me just say, my mother and father is Muslim. So I respect that religion too.

SPEAKER_10 1:24:13

Tell us the gel as we speak to.

SPEAKER_08 1:24:16

This is Joe from West Philly.

SPEAKER_10 1:24:18

What's up, man? Shout out to West Philly. What's up, bro?

SPEAKER_08 1:24:20

Definitely, definitely. Hey, listen, I what's up, what's up? I got one question for all three of y'all. I want all three of y'all to answer. What's uh one what's some advice y'all would give a single dad raising a daughter out here in West Philly to keep her out of the out of the mix?

SPEAKER_10 1:24:36

Uh for me, I would say, man, uh um uh choose the right choose they choose our friends for her, but we can choose choose them for ourselves, man. I would that's my advice. Don't let her just hang with anybody. Don't don't let them just run the streets. What about you?

SPEAKER_04 1:24:52

I would say just be there. You can only fuck up if you're not there. It don't matter if you there. If feel me. Kids always, yeah, mommy did that. If your parents there, okay, y'all gonna argue on it. But you're there. Just don't not be there. That's when you're not doing shit. It don't matter if you make mistakes and shit, just be there. That's my advice.

SPEAKER_10 1:25:11

Okay, more too, yeah.

SPEAKER_11 1:25:13

And and mine's is uh and it's crazy that you asked this question, right? I was watching a reel, and I be up around four or five o'clock in the morning every day. I was watching a reel on Instagram, and the girl, the lady woke up, it was like four o'clock in the morning, her son was calling her. The whole time he had a a club that he wasn't supposed to, he was like 16. He wasn't supposed to never be there. He was he supposed to be over a friendhouse, something got to happen, they got to fighting, and she went and got he like, Mom, I need you to come get me a you know. I'm you know, she goes get him, she comes back to the crib, she gotta go to work in the morning. She like, go ahead get in the bed, boy, and go get in the bed. But he he he is showing his thoughts. And he's like, damn, all right, tomorrow breakfast time, she's gonna grind me up. And when she came out, I was like, Boy, what you want to eat? I gotta hurry up and cook for both of us while I go to work. He's like, But damn, mom, you ain't mad at me from last night. And she was like, No, you know why I ain't mad at you? Because you came to me first. You called me. You understand what I'm saying? And that right there touched me in a different type of manner. The way she instilled and raised that boy, regardless if he was in trouble or not. I'm calling on my mother first. Because you know, you got a lot of people to try to duck their parents and tell their friends about it, tell their significant other about it, but won't go to their parents. That's because the parent being too harsh or you mean too nice. But that right there, I hope hopefully that gave you a little bit of clarity to you know your your question.

SPEAKER_08 1:26:28

Definitely. I appreciate y'all, man. Appreciate y'all.

SPEAKER_10 1:26:31

Enjoy your night, man.

SPEAKER_08 1:26:32

For sure, you too.

SPEAKER_10 1:26:33

Yeah, kids, man. Kids need you to need you to be there regardless, man. You know, and be there, you know, not be too too harsh all the time. It's it's time to be uh stern, but you can't be like a dag on rock.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:47

No, for real, because then they're not gonna want to tell you shit.

SPEAKER_10 1:26:49

I uh at all.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:50

I could agree to that.

SPEAKER_11 1:26:52

Yeah, ain't nobody gonna want to tell you.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:54

Let me give some other advice. Don't be trying to live your life through your kids, too. I hate when people do that. Like, some kids don't want to be what you want them to be. If that's what you want to be, then that's what the fuck you should have did. Let your kid be a kid. Like, I feel like now a lot of people be trying to live through their kids.

SPEAKER_10 1:27:08

Another thing too, with women, uh, shout out to uh the boy underscore Lil. Appreciate you for the donation. No, um, a lot of times women, I don't know if you you do this, but women dress they they sons up how they want how they want their boyfriend's dress or their husbands' address. Is that true?

SPEAKER_11 1:27:25

Yeah. Answer the coffee.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:27

Yeah, my son be he looking cute. I like dressing my son up.

SPEAKER_10 1:27:32

And you want to look like you want him to look how your boyfriend would would dress.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:36

Yeah, I like him looking fly. My son, he he knows how to dress himself a little bit now though, so it'll be him.

SPEAKER_11 1:27:41

So you would say I ain't fly right now. I'm probably on some nigga shit.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:45

Chilling, that's a con bitch.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:46

I'm a con that's a con bitch.

SPEAKER_10 1:27:47

Okay, uh tell us in the jails who's speaking with. I can't really hear you. He hung up. Yeah, he might get a few prank calls in here, too, so don't worry. about that. Yeah, they they they call and say some weird stuff. Um so yeah like you know living through your kids or you know or um you know forcing your kids to be something that you want them to be but it's a lot it's a lot of um success stories of uh of kids listening to their parents and and going after you know what their parents wanted for them I'm not saying not listening it's the difference between listening to your parents and then like like for example my parents used to always like I was in performing art school so they used to always try to make me dance I wanted to play sports.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:34

But oh that's for boys but that's that's dancing made me depressed I wanted to play sports. Like that's what I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_10 1:28:41

Tell some of jail so we're speaking with okay hey black I would just like to tell y'all about my experience in jail is that okay yes ma'am yeah you got you got you keep it kept me too long though not duty yeah what's your what's your name and where you calling from all right go ahead what's up I'm calling from Philly what part of Philly my name is Tyrone Tyrone I would just like to tell y'all you know I went to jail and when I came back I was gay oh yeah that well you got yeah that's something you got to live with you got you know that's a good thing it's a good thing that's not well not I ain't gonna say that that that's for you that's that's you know you know up the shit uh man listen listen to each his own man to each his own man enjoy life out there man do what you do man and that's just it man next call let's call bad wait what with the question yes he said she had a question of her son well he he said he had a question wait so is she gay or is the son gay no with the question his name but he went to jail and came home gay yeah the person was on the phone came okay now my next caller next caller I don't know what the fuck going on his name is Tyrone Carl and Tyrone talking about some black leave me alone yeah that was that was a crazy I agree it's just crazy so yeah um 215 316 4492 is the phone number now you know like we was talking about the kids the kids they wanted they wanted you want you wanted to play play sports yeah but sports now for uh for females is it's like really I should I say this it's like it's really popular for uh young ladies to be in in involved in sports like whether it's tennis basketball you know stuff like that swimming whatever it is you know they volleyball there's so many things that you know girls can do in sports you know nowadays gym gymnastics whatever case may be so what did you what kind of sports you want to play football oh yeah you wasn't you time boy all the way out no I just like football that was my thing I like the football yeah you wasn't going to play so you got a football team then and you better not say nothing other than the city it wasn't a football team it was just after school no I'm talking about a football team now like the league but let's get this call what the Eagles hell yeah tells from the jail so we're speaking with hello hey who we speaking with what's going on hey who's this I'm man from Uptown shout out uptown what's up man how you doing man I'm doing good hey I got a question for uh you and uh speaking black what's up bro so my my homies said they seen y'all but then I just wanted to fact check that um do y'all be going to Neverweda yes yeah yeah I see him y'all two two young guys uh they got like a uh a jeep truck or something like that I believe that's who it is yeah I was gonna say he got he got a podcast too yeah yep exactly yep shout out to him many I think his podcast you don't name his podcast yeah he um he basically was just explaining like how he was like going to approach of a time something like bro like you not being Joe by walking up to him salute that's that's that's him that I told I told him that too I was like man bro we all men bro that's what we gotta get out of we dick eating or we being uh Joe and corny no if you see somebody yeah it's cool to walk up like yo I like what you're doing man that's a good thing and that don't make you no less of a man or no less than a woman to give a motherfucker these flowers man what's the name of his of his podcast uh I think it's kicking it with cool shot yeah make sure y'all y'all go check out kicking it with cool um you know uh make sure y'all check him out man whatever he got going on over there yeah man thanks man appreciate your call man joy your joy your night no problem I said I said I would even yeah man so you know like people um a lot of times like how do you feel about people approaching you seeing you out and then showing you love how do you feel about that I love it I love when people show love I feel like it's a difference between dick eating and support I think what's the difference maybe having Philly just think everything dick eating like that's why I don't know why I want to support nobody there's just this statistic that you're dick eating because I say hey I like your sneakers or hey you're doing good work keep it up that's dick eating no that's not dickie that's support yeah it's it's I'm like um like I like your shoes you get watching like dang like I'm gat watching no dick eating is if I bodies and tomorrow you got these on though that's dicky and not oh I like them that's yeah they say you get watching too many you get watching like what this because you like somebody stuff man I don't do these crazy but yeah like it it's nothing wrong with supporting people man it's not nothing wrong with supporting you know um you know people from your city man and uh you know and and showing love and shaking hands and so forth and so on man there's nothing wrong with it man um now for you you got a podcast something that you're working on or anything like that me no I just write music and I just show up on people skits I'm I'm just a little entertainment for the people they call it call you the uh the black Harley Quinn I don't know what they have they call me all kinds of things they better not call you broke right anything but broke they can't call you broke I ain't heard that one yet yeah yeah they call you anything but call you broke yeah and the bull look the bull underscore a little he said black was you up the F when Rue had it on lock definitely that was my Sally shot off the Rudolph McGriff uh that was my Sally for years man the tattoos I got on my arms is cause of him why people keep saying not on duty what is that not on duty mean I'm not like that's how he keeps saying it's something I'm trying to get him to obliterate our vocabulary gets on my damn nerves but uh yeah I was up there with him man for years man years good man you know I'm not gonna get into what he locked up for or his charges besides that the man that I know is a good honorable integrity man I was up there with him for years yes shout out the roo West Philly but you know um you know jail is a is a is a terrible place man we don't want to see anybody go to go to uh uh go to jail we want to see anybody committing crimes you want to see anybody you know harming harming another person uh we want to see uh we want to spread love and positivity man how you feel about that spread love and positivity spread love people need love spread love not war pray so uh what do you see yourself for the next two years what's gonna be uh going with much hair out of Philly hell yes at least out of Kensington please but Philly yeah I think you're out of Kittington already I'm out of Kensington but I still be dibbling dabbling back back for it I'm trying to leave permanently like when this shit is gone like I'm done OVA I don't got no family out here no friend I don't got no reason to come back why do you why do you feel like you come back to Kensington It's comfortable it's just it don't matter what go down here you just look around be like hmm it's home it don't matter what's going on you just weird I feel like anybody feel like that with their shit just be home I still be around though I ain't been around that much since I started rapping I ain't gonna lie because it'd be a lot of trolls and dicky and people be wishing horn and pain on my downpour so I try to stay away from them motherfuckers that's half a Kansas 10 so you gotta get with Skriller probably probably I get with Skriller but you know the thing the thing about it is this too many you know just on on a serious note you know uh you know life is is is sure you never know when you're gonna die. You just gotta try to be the best individual that you can be and make sure you you know uh raise your son up the best way that you can and like you said just be there for him. And you can't be there for him if you if you're in jail or dead. Nope.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:20

You know so listen uh where can people find you at what can where can they um uh reach out to you how can they get what you Kenzo Sojo on everything K E N Z O for the Kenzo J O for the me and uh young other thing you want to say before we get up out of here many yeah I do I want to shout my engineer out because he's been on my ass and he be making me get y'all music and he been helping me and he been working and he be making me work so yeah I'm gonna shout my engineers and my producers and everybody that's listening supporting. And I'm gonna shout out anybody from Kensington. Whatever your goal is you can do that shit. It don't matter that we from here we all got the same 24 hours in a day so ain't nobody shit better than nobody else.

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Better believe it.

SPEAKER_10 1:37:01

What you say yo know my motto man it's getting close to the weekend the heat is out the meat is out so enjoy yourselves you know uh tomorrow we're going into hump day on duty take that take that take take take them three seconds I always tell you about the three seconds man that the three seconds that extra when you go in when you have a conversation when you're thinking about something when you're arguing or it's a decision an extra three seconds to think on that could ruin your life or cost you to save your life that extra three to five seconds think it out a little bit longer that's all I say but the sun is out there man the heat is out the meat is out we about you're on dirty yeah y'all don't forget once again man y'all can follow us on all platforms man we available on all platforms um what platforms is there instagram youtube uh what's that kick right follow us on kick uh twitch um spotify spotify you listen to us on spotify iHeartRadio Apple Podcasts um we are you know everywhere um don't forget to become a member if you're able to and uh thanks to all the subscribers 30 shot nah they said get well 30 shot nah yes get well that shot that nigga out he been dropping he been working 30 shot he's been working what's wrong with him why they say get well 30 shot he got injured but he already he what happened to it he alright he got shot he got injured he already but yeah he some haven't he already done but yeah he didn't get shot though did he i don't think so oh yeah shot we gotta reach out to 30 shot yeah yeah shout out to that nigga he been working i see him i be seeing the work working shout out to 30 shot man shout out to uh you know wink and the gang and everybody as well so look man we thank everybody for uh for tuning in and tell us from the jail thank y'all for our band supporters July 18th don't miss it you gotta be there man it's gonna be a huge event for us our first live event is gonna be crazy uh what we'll uh we'll talk about the actual details of the other actual live event uh we will let y'all know when tickets will be on sale but it's gonna be a crazy event don't miss it man we're gonna have some special guests there with us as well that day uh you know so thank you thank everybody for tuning in anything else y'all want to say before we get about here me yeah you want you got shot in the backside and ain't bleed first thing first time I heard that deuces everybody enjoy your night man let's make it