SARAH CONOVER MURDERED : TALES FROM THE JAILS LIVE!!!!

The host speak about the murder of Sarah Conover who was murdered in the streets of Philadelphia. Sarah Conover was killed during a scheduled brawl between a group of male and female rivals after a knife was pulled during the altercation.

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SPEAKER_03 8:39

I just we just was with AC today, you know. Um talked to some good people, man, uh out there, AC, man, some good, good individuals. They had like a uh a thing for uh you know, people that came home from jail at the Ocean's uh casino ballroom, I believe it was there. Oh I'm sorry, my bad. Showboat. Showboat was a showboat, and they had like a you know, a lot of people was there, Walla was there, um uh what's his name? Um uh OG Shabazz was in there, uh a few other people was there. It was a nice amount of people that was there, man. You know, shout out to everybody that's in the chat. Turkey Bains 215, Neif Buck316, Empath. You already know you need home care empath, whether you're in Philly or New Jersey, or maybe even Switzerland. You can get you home care over there too, possibly. Alohawalum. You got uh 215 Nitro. Everybody's in the chat. Everybody's here, man. So what's going with you, Mr. Jackson?

SPEAKER_01 9:32

Oh man, you know, hump day. Non-duty. Closer to the Yummy weekend, man. You know, and it's gonna be hot. The heat is out, the meat is out. Non-duty. You know, once again. We still here for the ones that's still here in attendance with us, man. Stay free, man, stay mindful, stay thoughtful. You know, just don't jump to, you know, the first interruption with anger or aggression. Don't meet it like that, because that'll send you to the penitentiary, man. And this is, you know, we spreading this awareness where y'all can try to stay out of there, man.

SPEAKER_03 9:59

Another thing, I know you had this thing to turn when you say uh when the heat is out, the the the the whatever is out. The meat is out. I'm not gonna say that now on duty, but you whatever you you had this saying that you say this thing uh about that. But also when the heat is out, you know, the the killing is out. Well, um when it gets nice, it's not like the killing spikes in the yeah, because everybody outside now.

SPEAKER_01 10:22

Yeah, it's you know when it's cold, everybody forced to stay in. So, and if you is coming out, you scurrying to wherever you got a destination. You ain't coming out standing around on the corners like this. Not even trying to get loosey, just kicking the breeze. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you ain't doing that when it's 17 below and 10 degrees outside. You you boogie into where you got to go. I mean, sometimes it causes laudering, meaning standing around establishments, uh buildings, apartments, whatever. Laudering, and you know, you know, remember kids used to smoke beaties? No, I ain't never smoked a BD. I ain't never did that. I ain't never smoked no BD. You tripping, y'all don't know which one beats. Oh, I ain't never smoked no goddamn B. Like a Jamaican joint in a little pack. I ain't never smoked no damn BDs. That's a fake cigarette. I go, I was smoking the Newport when we was kids. Right. I think about it. I'm not doing no damn beanie. I'm going jump past that.

SPEAKER_03 11:11

Like 12, right? Like that.

SPEAKER_01 11:12

Wait for us to smoke 12 years old? Yeah, something around there. It was it was before I was 15. Or darker than it. And please do not smoke, man. I I advocate for people that do smoke, man. Tribal for everything that you have, man. I think that nicotine is probably the most powerful narcotic. Me, me. I think that narcotic in the world over crack cocaine, heroin. Is nicotine a narcotic? I don't think it's a good idea. Yes, it's a narcotic. It is. It's a narcotic.

SPEAKER_03 11:36

Really?

SPEAKER_01 11:36

It's definitely a narcotic. You goddamn right. The nicotine is a hot narcotic.

SPEAKER_03 11:41

I think the the the the the worst two main things that is legal. Alcohol and cigarettes. People can get to them. You think so? Yeah, they they they do the most damage to you. Over the marijuana and all that? Yeah, I think so. Well, marijuana is bad too. I mean, I'm just saying, marijuana is like it's like smoking a cigarette damn.

SPEAKER_01 12:01

Like Perkin Sets is legal.

SPEAKER_03 12:02

Yeah, but they don't get they don't give you, you can't just go walking walk into a poppy store and buy them. Oh, yeah, you can't. No, you can't. You can't, you can't.

SPEAKER_01 12:08

If you if you could, you gotta get prescribed.

SPEAKER_03 12:10

Can you imagine this movie? People can walk to walk into the go buy yurt.

SPEAKER_01 12:13

Like you go, like you go buy uh in the city. Yeah, yeah, that'll be a bad joint out here. Yeah, it'd be bad. This be a walking dead. This joint be like, what's that movie called? When the purge. You got 24 hours to just do whatever. Yeah, the purge. It'd be the perks, not the purge. Yeah, it'd be bad.

SPEAKER_03 12:32

So what's going on with this thing that you you see is uh you have um the situation with this is a girl that got stabbed with a $20,000 award.

SPEAKER_01 12:42

Yeah, man. She done slid down a razor blade into an alcohol river, man. And everybody that's from the uh Philadelphia surroundings, man, and probably the counties and all that, because this is getting national news now, man, where it was started off as a planned street fight. Do you know where this fight took place? It was in North Philly somewhere. And um it was a planned street fight. Yeah, it was a planned street fight, broad daylight, you know, and it was a regular street fight like you see back in the day, you know, fist to fist, fist on fist. And you know, one girl took it uh upon herself to bring a knife like this size, this size, like a baby sword, and got the welding that joint, got the swinging that iron in the air and connected a few times with the young lady that lost her life, which is sad, man. You know, this was a street fight that led to a homicide for the the woman that did it, the suspect. Man, she ain't she she ain't going to that situation wanting to do that. This was all bravado. I'm talking about I don't know her thinking, I'm just assuming, but she didn't go into the situation. I'm killing somebody with this. You know, she's taking that for protection, and you know, the hoop out of bravado and her running around acting all big and bad amongst the group that she with. Yeah, we're gonna put something down. But you ain't thinking I'm gonna kill somebody. But again, we ain't no doctors, we don't know where to stab somebody at to know that they're gonna live. And ultimately, the bad thing that happens is you have two people that lost their lives, man. This young lady that just died, man, peace be upon her soul, man. And the woman that they're currently offering a $20,000 reward for for her apprehension. When they catch this woman, man, there's nothing that this woman can, you out here in a street fight, you bought a knife to a fight. For the first what minute and a half of the video, you see the two brothers rumbling. Now, when I say brothers, black men, they rumbling each other, but it's a crowd, it's a melee. Everybody's out there, they letting them get it off. Then you see other people jumping into it. But you bought this knife with you, like you're not gonna get like this. Is some time she won't get, man. Oh, she's going and it's on camera. Once they catch you, they're gonna see that you came with the intentions. Like, what is your intentions now? You got this knife because evidently you ain't come to fight, you wouldn't have came with a knife. Is this premeditated, bro? Uh, I can't say it's premeditated. I don't know though. I don't know how they're gonna because if you bring in that, you bringing that on the on uh under the presumption I'm gonna hurt somebody, but I can't say it's premeditated because I'll probably be speaking wrong if I'm wrong, but I know she done slid down a razor bleed into some alcohol river. She's sitting there in somebody basement, somebody room, shivering like a leaf on a tree, man. Yeah, with probably no money. But yeah, and that's the crazy part. Somebody with money ain't out there doing that. They over on a vacation at the mall shopping, getting their hair and nails done. Girl, give a girl some money. She ain't out there on the corner fighting. No. So uh that's leading me to believe that she's destitute, you know. And I'm gonna say destitute, that's penniless, but she's broke, and I ain't talking bad about her because I'm broke, I ain't making like I'm better than her, nothing like that. But my thing is I ain't gonna be at no fight where I'm broke because I'm trying to find me some money. You know what I mean? And if I had some money, I ain't gonna be at the fight because I'm having me a good goddamn time somewhere. So either way for me, I wouldn't have been there. Um, yeah, man, it's sad, man. When I look at look at the victim, the young lady that died, all the people crying in the street. Like, we just got a call from a brother of yours just now on the phone. He was at the hospital. They had to shut down the emergency rooms just to get this girl in there, man. This is sad, man. This is her fam, like this is sad. Like, like that day you go in the fight, man. You never think it's gonna turn into this. Exactly. Even for the girl that did it.

SPEAKER_03 16:20

So it said this incident happened uh at 5:50 p.m. at the 1300 block of West Lehigh Avenue. Uh, the person who was killed, uh 28-year-old uh Sariah Conover. Conover, yeah. Yeah, she was taken to the hospital. She passed about 1.28 a.m. on Tuesday. Uh, so it's an arrest warrant that has been issued for the uh person who did this, or supposedly did this, 24-year-old uh Zay Zaya Shea. This name, wow, her name is Zay Ashay Davis. That's a heck of a name.

SPEAKER_01 16:58

Yeah. Well, yeah, she's gonna have to make it short. They put that name together. They don't call her Zay Zay in the penitentiary. Yeah, Zay Zay. Big Zay Zay, she big girl too, big Zay Zay. On her wayway. Big Zay Zay on her way. And I don't say that to try to crack no joke out of nobody, man. This is real life, man. That woman, if she's not apprehended, apprehended already, she knows she's on the run.

SPEAKER_03 17:19

Said Davis is out on probation linked to a case in Westmoreland County in March. She entered a guilty plea for two misdemeanors for endangering the welfare of children. Davis has also had charges for retail theft and conspiracy in Philadelphia from February uh to this year. Do they say how old she is?

SPEAKER_01 17:38

She's 24 years old. 24 years old. A baby. Yes, a child, bro. Yeah, she went to that. A child made the wrong decision. I'll tell you, give it a couple. She sees them all out there fighting. The girl that you stabbing, you see, she has no weapon on her. The girl she came over and stabbed. If you watch the video, the girl already fighting somebody one-on-one. She comes from behind with it and just starts like, but you thought this wasn't gonna kill her. Like, what was you going on?

SPEAKER_03 18:05

You I gotta give you price trying to you probably was hot. She probably's trying to just inflict pain.

SPEAKER_01 18:11

Yeah, with this devastating. No, it's ending with the police on your line, sweetheart. On your line, and it's sad, man. Then it's an open and shit case. Everybody taping it, everybody putting it on social media. The cops could sit back and the shit, the shit just right there in their lap. Thank y'all.

SPEAKER_03 18:34

They're looking for her now, but they they know who she is, they're gonna catch her.

SPEAKER_01 18:37

Oh, she goes, you see, these niggas is going on a run and can't make it far. What you think a girl gonna do? And not to talk bad about the women, but the girl don't have you know all the answers that a man have of trying to run a little bit here out and a man to stay underneath a car and fortnight and then he'll go over here on the roof for a night. Not to say a woman won't do it, but it's more so of a man that would do that.

SPEAKER_03 18:57

Let me ask you a question. If you was on the run, right? Yeah, would you go back to jail or would you be like, no disrespect to the people that's homeless? Would you be outside like under the bridge with the people that's homeless outside under them little tents, making their tents sleeping outside? Yes. Before you go back to jail? Yes.

SPEAKER_01 19:16

Yes. Yes. I would be under here, underneath this Kensington Bridge down here, or whatever bridge it may be. Yes, I will I will live in, you know, discomfort of poverty uh time, then go back into that penal system. Yep. And so that that that's that's organized chaos, the penal system. That's what I call it. Organized chaos 24-7, not a second off. And yes, I will choose that bridge every day of the week over the penitentiary.

SPEAKER_03 19:46

And we spoke about this uh before, like the the uh the aspect of ban on a run, right? Ban on a run for a murder or whatever, you have to have some type of financial support from somewhere.

SPEAKER_01 19:59

If it ain't yourself or somebody helping you out, because everything got to be ducky now. You can't work, so now that means you're cut off from making your own finances. So now, if you don't got a comrade and a comrade that has for loose, because I'm quite sure this comrade of yours got a family of his own and he got to take care of his own self or she. It's just not gonna work, man. It's not gonna work. Your run is is coming to an end.

SPEAKER_03 20:26

And a lot of times, what you gotta do, man, you gotta just go somewhere and you can't, you gotta basically forget about hair.

SPEAKER_01 20:32

Everything you you ever see the movie Pete? Yeah. With John, who is that? Uh Albercino and um Robert De Niro. And uh Robert De Niro was the outlaw on that movie, and he told him that the thing about doing this crime and lifestyle that I live is if you can't walk away from anything, kids, mother, son, girlfriend, in 30 seconds, like it never existed, then you ain't supposed to be in this line of field. That's what he told that man. You see at the end how he was leaving his the reason why he got caught because he looked back for his woman. He went against his own rules. Yeah, he stayed, he tried to hurry up and meet her and then keep it pushing. And Albertina caught up to him. This whole thing, but he went against his own rules. He knows the game. I got the gig is up, I got to go. Everything that I had here in Pit, I got to go. I ain't no going. I'm leaving right now. None of that. You got and we ain't promoting that and saying do that, but if you are living out there on the edge and you committing crime, you have to detach yourself from everything that's supposed to be attached to you. Meaning kids, woman, elderly mother, the sick, father, friends, they have to be blurs in life to you if you're breaking law and you go on a run, especially if you're on the run for some major shit like homicides and shit like that. You know, people get homesick, get to call. You know, you might could do it for three months, four months. No, you got to do this for the rest. Of your life.

SPEAKER_03 22:01

What's the worst thing that somebody can say to this little girl? I'm sorry, the worst thing they can say to her right now.

SPEAKER_01 22:07

The worst thing that she can get say to her is something like. Told you. Yeah, exactly. What's the best thing they can say to her? Turn yourself in.

SPEAKER_03 22:18

That's probably the worst thing you might want to hear.

SPEAKER_01 22:20

Nah. Go ahead and get me to head on because all you're gonna do is get people's doors kicked in, who they know you be around. You're gonna bring heat on everybody because you ain't got your own finances to go to get away from everybody. But you're gonna tip on everybody around you. Don't nobody wanna be, don't nobody wanna be caught driving with you. She ain't turning herself in. Well, I well, I'm not saying that you ask me a question. I'm just answering the question. I don't know what she's gonna do. If she knew, I don't know, man. It's just bad.

SPEAKER_03 22:47

I'll be surprised if you turn stuff in right away. Normally, normally what happens is they she'll probably go on a little on a run for a little while. And when she realizes she ain't got no help or she can't really move around too much, that's when she'll probably end up turning herself in or get caught. And I mean, it's unfortunate. She's 24 years old. She's gonna do at least a dub. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:09

Yeah, she be out well into her 40s, going on her 50s. She's still young though. Yeah, she's still young. She she she she could live out the rest of her half of life on the planet, but.

SPEAKER_03 23:19

And do you think at by, I'm just I don't know what's jail anyway, but do you think that by what you see from her at her actions that jail might save her life as far as from a life of her just.

SPEAKER_01 23:28

Yeah, at the little records, you done she was on the road to the destruction. She ended up dead. What she just did to somebody else. The way she's going, it wasn't like no letting up on her looking for change. You already got retail thefts, you got a negligence to child with all the little joints that you was just reading. So this is a a continuing uh uh act from her. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, it's definitely going to rehabilitate her. If I was facing like two years, I probably would go on a run. Go on a run? Nah, not me. Not about not say I know how to do time. You'll go on a run because you ain't never did time before, and I respect that. I get that, I get that. But two years, I'll weigh my options out. Because the thing is crazy. You go on a run for two years, then they catch you, then you got to do your two years. So that means you was locked up for four years. Because on a run is like being locked up. You're not out and about, you're not at functions, you're always constantly here, huh? My functions here. Well, functions here, wherever. Like you could leave and go out of the state somewhere, but you still gotta keep it low. Don't let you did some big time shit. That shit get to getting all over to different counties and different states and all that. You know what I'm saying? You got to sit, switch up, shave your beard off, and all that. You got to go in and cotton no more. I ain't cut my beard off. I'm gonna eat, but I'm just saying. I'm cutting this off. I'm cutting this off if I did something.

SPEAKER_03 24:41

But they're gonna pull it, they're gonna know it's even more.

SPEAKER_01 24:43

Probably so, but I'm gonna see if they do.

SPEAKER_03 24:45

No, um, everybody probably knows you got you got a dimple in your in your chin.

SPEAKER_01 24:48

All right, well, that's cool too, though. But they'll find out if it's a dimple or not, if I did something crazy, because this is coming off all the way off during my pursuit of trying to elude my the law enforcement. For what though? What's the point of cutting it off? Just to look different. Everybody, because of the why not why not grow you an afro, but you probably can't do it. You get yeah, that shit over with. That the afro didn't just go to the back. There's a like a puff. All that shit up front is gone. George Jefferson. Like you're joining, like you're joining, like you're joining. You mean the the the Batman symbol? Yeah, Gotham is under siege. I I get it. You have the George Jefferson joint, the bulls or the clown joint.

SPEAKER_03 25:22

You you you join crazy. You know what I mean? So I so I want you to do that. They would just wouldn't even recognize you.

SPEAKER_01 25:29

Did if you did that. You just had the whole thing. Nah, I ain't, but listen, man, back to that girl is in a lot of trouble, man. Yeah. I mean, she needs to be right now coming up with her defense on why that happened because the gig is up. So her best thing now is to take a plea. I did that, but I did that because I was scared. Because you got to get all in there. All that you keep trying to, no, and and no, that shit is up. All of us know we've seen it. We've seen firsthand you come over there and stand. Don't nobody need to tell on you, young lady. No one. The telling has already been done by the cameras that was out there and exposed to the public. It's over with. So now your best defense is to get ahead of it. Turn yourself in and come up with your own defensive strategy.

SPEAKER_03 26:15

But do you think based off who she is and what she's into, the line will be around the corner for people trying to help her?

SPEAKER_01 26:22

Um, I don't know, man. I don't know. I don't know a person's situation. I don't know if she got people because she might got a couple, she might got that. I don't, I don't know. I don't know. But I know a lot of people was mad that that happened due to the who the victim was. But other than that, I'm quite sure she got some people that love her. Yeah, she looked a little disheveled in her mugshot, so. Yeah, yeah, that's that's probably the mugshot from one of the other cases she caught. It is because they ain't catch her, uh presumably yet for this.

SPEAKER_03 26:47

That's just terrible, man. Like, man. But she young. That twenty that that 20-ball Jamiz all gonna put her right where she needs to be. So let's get to the next thing we saw. Uh, it was uh two-philly.

SPEAKER_01 27:01

Oh my god, man. Charge chump ass niggas' name. Them niggas already have a long stay.

SPEAKER_03 27:07

Yeah, they they charge with well, it's they um, you know, this is crazy, right? How people just do stuff to kids, man.

SPEAKER_01 27:17

How people harm kids. What's these pastors' name? Let's put these suckers out here. Uh it was two pastors and their ages. I don't think neither one of them was 30, and they're young.

SPEAKER_03 27:24

Okay, it says two pastors serving separate uh congregations in Philadelphia are facing charges related to child sexual abuse and child pornography, according to the prosecutors. Isaiah Banks, 30 years old, and Brian Jackson. Brahim.

SPEAKER_01 27:40

No, there ain't no Brahim Jackson.

SPEAKER_03 27:42

I saw that wrong. Uh my bad man. Brian Jackson, 42, are both uh faith leaders who authorities say sexually assaulted abused children over several years. Over several years. What's their ages though? It says according to an affidavit, Banks is accused of enticing a 15-year-old boy to send pornographic pictures and videos in exchange for money and food. Um the alleged abuse occurred while Banks served as a pastor at Second Pilgrim Baptist Church on North 15th Street.

SPEAKER_01 28:17

He used it like you like to say, weapon, he weaponized the church. He used the church as his weapon.

SPEAKER_03 28:22

It says uh pastors, I'm sorry, prosecutors say Banks shared the child pornography with Jackson, who leads Garden of Prayer World Prayer Center on North 29th Street.

SPEAKER_01 28:33

Wow. Man, I have absolutely no sympathy, no regret for what they're gonna do to these men. Like you prayed on an innocence of child children, and then you use the cover as the church. Because I'm quite sure, and I ain't not quite sure, I know a lot of good church people. You know what I'm saying? Regardless of the religions and what religion I am, there are some good people that's in Christianity. And you use you as being a pastor because you can lure the kids to you underneath Sunday school and little classes and betrayed the trust of their parents. You're sending naked pictures of these kids to the other pastor to joke on or to lust off of. And then the crazy part about it for me is and I I ain't no racist, but you see these type of uh acts of crime, and it'd be belonging to a certain ethnic ethnic ethnicity group. Ethnic group, ethnic group, and it's a dictionary on the way for him. Yeah, so you'll see the white people more so, the Caucasian man coming in more so with these type of uh chromo acts, child molestation. Not to say black people don't do it, but it's far a few in between. But when I seen it, I'm reading it, but then when I see the black bro, I'm like, then these black dudes in this person. I just from the drive, I you know, you already, if you hear about some shooting, boo, boop, boo, boo, somebody shot up there, you automatically you're gonna think then some black young niggas that did that. And then they show you who did it, white boys, you're gonna be shocked to see that white boys did it. Unless it was a school or something like that. Well, yeah, yeah, if it's a mass shooting at a school, then you go everybody got their tag for what they did.

SPEAKER_03 30:06

That we say that, too, it's crazy that people have their own tags for like when certain crimes happen and you hear about what happened.

SPEAKER_01 30:12

Oh, there's some niggas that did that. Yeah. And more times out of ten, you'd be right. Niggas be doing all the but the trouble, not to say it ain't no, it's a lot of blacks in jail for child molestation. You know what I'm saying? And uh, but it's 10 times the Caucasian man is there for that. So that's something that they do. That's something that they get into, the child acts and all that. Not to say that don't no other groups do it, no other ethnic groups do it, but more so the Caucasian community is inside the penal system for these uh allegations and acts that they be getting found guilty for. But back to these two men, man. Neither one of them was 30, right? You mean to tell me that out of all the sisters that's coming through there on Sunday and all that, you couldn't get a grown woman, 20-year-old, 22-year-old that's close to your age. And you know how they say it back in the day, by the Sundays, the the church girls, they freaky. You know, I mean how you know the sayings growing up, y'all. Like, get you a good old church girl. You ever watched the movie Boys in the Hood, and he snuck in there in the girl crib, and she's supposed to have been at Sunday school, and he was up there with it. They say the church girls is freaky. That's a saying. I'm not saying this is true, but this has been a you bet you heard that growing up, right? Um, get you a good old church girl boy, they be ones that go ahead and eat the Joan up all crazy and all this and that, and they be the freaky ones. For real? Yeah, well, I I haven't had it done, but that's what they were saying. You mean growing up? But uh yeah. And um with that being said, man, these dudes right here, I mean, these dudes is cowards, man. These dudes is the despicable, they are the trash of our society. And um I was reading something, I don't know how true it is, man. I'm gonna bring it to the attention, but I'm gonna fact check it and really look into it, man, about a law that they're passing Idaho. Right, Fik, you're gonna be, you know, me and uh some female was talking about it earlier, and I'm like, you think that's uh something that that should be done? And I'm gonna bring it up to y'all right now, and I want you to give me your uh uh uh uh uh thoughts on this.

SPEAKER_03 32:06

But like I let's go why why you pulling it out much?

SPEAKER_01 32:08

No, I got it, I got it, I got it. What? Let's say starting now, we gotta look it up. But if it's we're gonna we're gonna answer it like if this is true. It says starting July 1st, the state of Idaho will be allowed, will be begin allowing convicted child rapists to be executed by firing squad under a new law. I don't know. And that's in Idaho? Yeah, that's in Idaho. You know the states could come up with their own laws. No, I'm not saying, I'm not saying that they're doing that. I said this might not be. I just looked up something and I seen and it got uh over 100,000 likes and all that. That don't look like it's fake to me. A firing squad. Yes, they said starting July 1st, the state of Idaho will begin allowing convicted child rapist to be executed by firing squad under new law. I mean, if this were true, Tafique, right? Then before you answer, think about this. Okay, so say they they they go ahead and grant this law. Okay. Do you think that, and a lot of people probably gonna get mad at me with this, do you think that child molestation is more grievous than killing another person? More grievous. Grievous than killing another person. Grievous, uh. Than killing another person? Um, yeah. You think child molestation is more crazier than me robbing an old lady and shooting her in her head and running off?

SPEAKER_03 33:29

Old lady? I mean, that's what I'm saying. Well, it's killing this killing.

SPEAKER_01 33:34

Because you'll have me, hold up, you'll you'll have me somebody that's you'll have me get convicted of shooting this old lady and get 40 to 80 or something like that. But it's not a firing squad. But listen, the thing is But you bring that for that crime, which I get, I get why you're doing it, but is that more a heinous crime than killing?

SPEAKER_03 33:52

I think I think the reason why they're doing it is because you you're going to get somebody who cannot defend themselves against you.

SPEAKER_01 33:56

But but we ain't talking about why. We're talking about do you think why you're adding more to the question? No, we'll get to that after we settled this. Uh attacks children and older people. I'm asking you, do you think that's that crime deserves that crime over all crimes deserves death or a firing squad? If you're found guilty upon child molestation, yeah, a firing squad is for you. Yeah. But if I'm feeling guilty for killing people, I go ahead and get life. You kill one person. Or two people, I go get double life.

SPEAKER_03 34:26

The reason being is because when you No, it's not the reason. You keep trying to say the reason. I want you to answer the reason. No, yeah, you're going to. My opinion. I'm giving you the reason why I give you my opinion, why I think it's worse. The reason being why I think it's worse is because a person is affecting a a young child who has to grow up living a life and knowing what happened to him. And then you you attacking the elder, the elder, older lady who or older man who can't really defend themselves. You know what I'm saying? And then with a child, the child gotta grow up, and then the child may turn into what you what you uh are. You know what I'm saying? Because you affected the children.

SPEAKER_01 35:05

So basically, so basically you saying, yeah, you see that's fit for that.

SPEAKER_03 35:08

Yeah, I I would I mean, listen, man.

SPEAKER_01 35:12

Like out of all the crimes you can give that punishment to, you would give it to the people who molest kids. Because I look at a person that molests kids as a sickness for real.

SPEAKER_03 35:22

I think anybody who kills anybody unlawfully.

SPEAKER_01 35:25

I think that should be I for an eye. And we believe that.

SPEAKER_03 35:26

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We as Muslims. Anybody anybody who kills somebody unlawfully with.

SPEAKER_01 35:31

I'm robbing you, your mom in the career, shot in the head because the money ain't there. That don't deserve a firing squad. That is, that is, yeah. I mean, I can see that. I can see you touring between the two, but if your little daughter's eight years old and get caught with a nigga around the corner and he take advantage of her, and I see why a nigga say death to him too. But which one, if you only had to pick the firing squad for one crime, would you give it, would you give it to the child molestation crime? Or would you get it to the murderer? Probably a child molester. I think because they So basically, because molesting the child is more grievous or gruesome than killing a person. Because I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 36:14

Because it's just a crazy kid. And nine time out of ten, when people do that, they they they do that to more than they have more than one victim. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 36:22

They have more than one victim. They just sometimes it might been just one victim, but it can spread. But sometimes it might be his first time he actually set out because it started off as a thought and fascination about doing it and images in their mind. You just don't wake up one day and say, Yeah, I'm gonna go touch a kid. No, you've been silently for days, months, years stalking and being a prey and looking, hey candy, and then you got your opportunity to act out this malicious act. It ain't just start, wake up one day, yeah. I want me some little butt. No, it don't come about like that. No, you're talking about some nine-duty, we're talking about some real shit. And you know what I'm saying? But that that you mean, I just you mean I don't mind the firing squad for both. You know what I'm saying? But if you had to, if you was allowed to implement this law, and I want y'all to answer it for me, family, if you was allowed to implement the firing squad law upon getting convicted of a crime, what crime would you give this law to? Out of all the all the crimes, out all the crimes, murder, rape, you know, be uh uh uh abuse to women, uh cruelty, and whatever case it is, what crime would you give execution by firing squad to? And I'm asking you that right now.

SPEAKER_03 37:38

Out of all the crimes, out of a crime that's just one. If I had to say all right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:45

I probably would go with the one that's causing the most damage. Man, which one, bro? Which one? And then you can get into your rebuttal and explain. You keep coming up this professor of big head shit. Ain't nobody trying to hear that. Which one would you get into? You asked me that question. No, because you you're going into and you ready to give a dialogue. No, answer the question and then get your dialogue.

SPEAKER_03 38:03

I know how to, bro. All right, answer the question.

SPEAKER_01 38:05

Just give a this one right here, and this is why.

SPEAKER_03 38:07

Yeah, uh, I would just um do the firing squad for the um the podcast partner who just disrespects cuts the other person off. We're gonna do it for that. Is that a crime? Huh? Is that a crime, Tofi? We're gonna get the firing squad on on the on the uh the podcast co-host who just can't, you know, you know, be quiet. But if like but if I had to choose for for a crime, I would say um murder.

SPEAKER_01 38:34

I would say that too. Murder. Not to say that these child predators don't get in, uh they would get life with me. But if I had to put the firing squad to a crime, I got the, I think the most heinous crime is murder. I don't know, I could be wrong. Y'all, well, that's my opinion. Just because I think that don't mean it's wrong. That's just me, what I think. Because you're gonna have a lot of people, because I part of me feels as though it should be the child mother, which is child molester. But I know killing is that's final. See, with this child molester, I know people that have been like me, I've been sexually assaulted and molested as growing up in each foster kid or foster homes. I ain't on, but granted, I was sexually assaulted by a girl, but I ain't on and running around here trying to have sex with another man, and and I'm not saying that the people that do that is out of pocket. I'm just saying I don't partake in that. You know, but it didn't be out of pocket. Well, I'm not to the LGBT community, I'm not saying that's that's that's their lifestyle. I'm not saying that that's our opinion, bro. We're gonna leave that alone. Okay. That's what they choose to do. We just don't mess with that. Cool. Shout out to y'all two. Now, my thing is, with that being said, I haven't been corrupted into now I'm a predator. Now when I get old, I'm a predator. Because you got some people that grow older, but with death, that's final. That's fine. Ain't no, all right, I can shake it off in a couple years, I could let this score go. See, being molested is a scar. It's a score, either it's gonna keep being reopened or you can heal from it. Death is final, bro. That's why I think the spine squad should be to the motherfucker that go out here and kill senselessly.

SPEAKER_03 40:09

You know, that's crazy. And that's just my opinion on it. This crazy thing about it, like, I ain't gonna lie, when I was a kid, I had a I had a crush on my uh my kindergarten teacher. Her name was Miss Bronson. I was in kindergarten. She was, boy, she was, she used to treat me so nice. I had a I had a I had a super crush on her, man. Like when I was a kid, man. She used to hug me and stuff like that. I used to be in love with her, man.

SPEAKER_01 40:27

Yeah, she probably just was motivating you with the little hugs and all that. And you mean you never know. She might have been in love with you too. You never know. There's a lot of sick people out here in this world today.

SPEAKER_03 40:36

Boy, she was beautiful to me. Long hair, nose to be done up all night.

SPEAKER_01 40:41

Yeah, you young, you don't really know what you're looking at. You're doing smelling, you know what I mean? So, but my thing is you you cool with the firing squad for the murderer.

SPEAKER_03 40:49

Yeah, like like if they had, like, for example, like I'm just I'm just speaking with all these murders in the city, and well, we'll just say because the drill stuff is everywhere now. It's like it's Philly, everywhere. New York, you LA, you name it. This this drill stuff is these young boys are shooting up everything. And it's been like that for years now, right? Like I said before, if they start killing people for killing people, it'll it'll slow down. Wait, yeah. They just they just kill little. And we knew this was a law out here, and they was doing it publicly. They just kill Lil Ryan Ron down there. They just executed little Ryan Ron down there on City Hall in the middle of the street. Gunned him down. Hung his bot not on duty. Not on duty. And they hug it, they hung his they hug his body from the deck on scoff, scoff or whatever you want to call it.

SPEAKER_01 41:35

Yeah, whatever the yeah.

SPEAKER_03 41:36

Yo.

SPEAKER_01 41:38

What?

SPEAKER_03 41:41

Say, gunny down, gun down.

SPEAKER_01 41:47

Man, this man highlights so that they be not on duty, just tickles him paint. Oh, not on duty. Yeah, but I feel as though that if they did do that though, and they uh publicize murders, open murders over people killing people, yeah. Come on, man, you sitting there laughing about it. I don't even know where they're about to come right. They got it. Yo, yo, come on, man. Shit, not even that funny, man. Nah, bro. We were talking about something, man. All right, but they sit in here for five minutes laughing over some real live shit.

SPEAKER_03 42:33

What you said, though.

SPEAKER_01 42:35

I'm sorry, y'all.

SPEAKER_03 42:36

I apologize, man. I apologize. All right, it's over with. I'm done. I got it out of my system, man. I'm duty.

SPEAKER_01 42:42

All right, so uh, why are you mad, man?

SPEAKER_03 42:52

All right, so all right, so they kill so alright, so they they um they kill they kill they kill a person down um downtown, man. You know, for killing somebody. And like you said, the crime rate would go down drastically. It would be like really like the line around the corner for people submitting applications to McDonald's, Chick-fil-A, whatever they can work at. Not knocking people working in those places because they do pay cool. But um, at least they won't be getting gunned down and all duty. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I heard you that'll be over with. And then for you, though, you you think about this like, do you agree with that though?

SPEAKER_01 43:33

Do I agree with what? The the execution after killing somebody. Well, because you it all depends on how the killing was. Ah see, me, me personally. The execution for killing somebody, man, you it gotta be something senseless, man. It gotta be something you went up in the crib and tried a home invasion, you killed some kids and the mom in there, then I'll be like, oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 43:57

So spin the corner, spin the corner with a switch and you hit somebody. Kill somebody somebody's kid, don't warrant you get getting guilt too.

SPEAKER_01 44:03

Well shit, the kid might have shot at him earlier that day. And I'm not saying they both right, but they both were on the battlefield. You know what I mean? Niggas shot his man might got a hit in the head, he spun that night. Them niggas is added. They added. That's not that's not that's a heinous crime, but it's not a heinous crime like me and you, we breaking in somebody's crib and they they see us and they we get alarmed and kill them. Like that's crazy. That's like damn, you went in these old people's houses and all that and did all this, whether they was young, old, or whatever. You ain't had no no nothing. This is census too when you got two dudes trying to gun each other down, but they yo, but yeah, I get you, I get what you're saying.

SPEAKER_03 44:43

They trying to try to murder each other, right? I got each other down to each other murder. He tried to murder him for shooting at him. Yeah. Yeah, so now they uh they they just going at it and then what you know, I mean, both of them. Cause what I'm saying to you though is this. So they shooting each other, right? Or shooting at each other. It's still murder. You still killed somebody, so you you you you ain't stopping think. Like, yeah, like um, I'm not gonna do this.

SPEAKER_01 45:09

What? Who who ain't stopping thinking?

SPEAKER_03 45:11

Yeah, stop and think. You could have called you could have called the police and said this boy just shot at me.

SPEAKER_01 45:14

I won't I wanted him arrested. Oh, well, yeah, but them niggas is at it with each other. They they they both was on some day stepping. He got guns, he just caught him slipping, and he got to get on his bike.

SPEAKER_03 45:22

I'm gonna ask you this. Do you think people start telling him? They know, like, all right, he shot at me, you know. I'm saying, if I go shoot back, I know I'm more I can get I can get killed. Do you think I like say if you came in and shot at me and I and I caught, do you think people start calling the cops? Like, yeah, all right, this person shot at me. People doing that now. But I'm saying the the amount, well, I'll say that the rate that uh that that's being done is really low. It would increase more if people know that if I go back and shoot them, I'll go to jail. People will start telling when people are shooting at them. They wouldn't have a problem with telling. You do you think that's uh something possible? Something that might happen? Yes. Yes. Like he's shooting at me, so now I'm gonna go tell first before I go shoot back. So, you know, death is um, you know, death can scare any and everybody, man. When it's talking about killing you for committing a crime or killing somebody like that, it's gonna change the mentality. People aren't afraid to go to jail until they get there. Does that make any sense? People not afraid to go to jail.

SPEAKER_01 46:19

People like Or people don't want to go to jail until they get there. People is not not trying to go to jail until they get there. Like, because you got everybody like, man, I ain't tripping about that shit. Jail ain't nothing. That's why they out here because they not they don't fear the jail. Yeah. Once they there, you're still getting food, yeah. You're still getting visits. You just missed it. Once they there, it's like, damn, did I really want to do this the rest of my life? Like all them dudes that got murders and got life and will it out, regardless of the ones that we got up here and they talk burado and they say they standing on business or whatever, whatever, or however they accept their accountability, in the back of them dudes' minds, especially if they got life. Them dudes question themselves about the acts that landed them in there a thousand and one times and gonna do it a million more times before they're deceased. Damn, was this actually worth that? Me and this nigga into it because of whatever it was, and I I get out, I kill him, but I get caught. Now I'm in here for life.

SPEAKER_03 47:15

Let's talk about something too. We're gonna release this clip probably. Um it should be edited up, I believe. So I'm thinking, what about that clip we did with uh F5? Huh? The jail call. We got the F5 uh jail call, not right now, but the F5 jail call is gonna be released. For me, listening to the young guy talk, I don't think he's learned his lesson, or he's that he's actually embraced the fact that he's in prison to the point where as though he feels remorse for what was going on, or if he even because he said it, I'm not there yet. Yeah, and he kept it real. And that's the mat and that and that happens with a lot of people when they're young, like young guys. You gotta go, you gotta go, you gotta go.

SPEAKER_01 47:56

After that 1015 mark, they it's it settled, it set it humbles you. It comes crashing down on you like a bag of bricks. It comes crashing down on your whole existence. Like, damn, I'm in here for life. I got 15 in with being said, forever to go. Like, that's when you wake up and be like, damn. Now you want to do everything correct. But there's no reason for you to do it correct, man. Like, what is it going to achieve you? What is it going to gain you by doing the right thing now?

SPEAKER_03 48:23

Do you think that he um at five, you think that he uh he's he's just saying that because he didn't get hit with a will? He got like a probably so it could come from that. If he got hit with a will, he probably would have been a little bit home. Or he probably you never know.

SPEAKER_01 48:39

Hefe and I'm talking a little different. Well, Hefe is saying like he ain't really was taking, yeah, I mean, accountability either. He was like, Yeah, because I'm coming home. I know I'm coming. Like when you see a nigga saying that, you're still fighting the fact that I'm here underneath a false pretense. But he was saying that it it ain't it, it ain't your you don't want to be here.

SPEAKER_03 48:58

It's bad.

SPEAKER_01 48:58

Like he's like, man, he he he didn't but they're contradicting themselves. I'm like, yeah, this ain't about nothing. This is how you step and if you out there on it, but now I don't want to be here. No, you gotta pick a side. Ain't no straddling the fence. Either I'm over here, yeah, I did that, and you will be humble because with that attitude, years gonna melt that away. Years is gonna melt that false bravado away from your psychic. All that you, yeah, we stand on, we had to do what we do, we in it, we in it. And I get that. I was one of them at one time. But time will humble you in that penal system. You will be humble to the max. Ain't no get back and this and that, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 49:37

Yeah, I mean, jail is really, really humbling. And then, you know, death is you we you know, you know, death is that's the end. Ain't no, you can't come back from that and say, Yeah, man, I don't want to, I wanna I don't want to be here. But jail, you can say, Yeah, I don't want to be here, you know. So people just you know were definitely rather jail, but I think that the reality aspect of if you kill somebody and then they killed you, that would send shockwaves. But at the end of the day, we all know they're not gonna do that. Why? What? They're not gonna kill people to lower the crime rate. Why are they not gonna do it? Because jail is a what? A billion-dollar business. Yeah. They want you, they they don't want you to commit crimes, but they want you to commit crimes.

SPEAKER_01 50:20

Yeah, like I said, do you think the guards will go and have a town hall meeting on like the White House Congress or whatever, go up there and say, listen, man, we want to shut down jails in America, man. We're tired of this mass incarceration, talking about COs and stuff, lieutenants and captains. Yeah. These is these is careers, these ain't regular jobs. Like when you're a correctional officer and all that, that's a career. You know what I'm saying? You can make thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars to take care of your family and not just your family, but your family to come after that. You think they're going up there saying, yeah, man, eliminate some of these crawl, these laws, man, that giving them 50 years, make them give them a hundred. No, how they gonna get paid?

SPEAKER_03 51:00

If they could push a button, like I'm if I push this button right here, gonna stop it, stop the crime rate. And they had, you know, all the police, jail officials.

SPEAKER_01 51:09

They're not doing that because now all the money absolutely get cuts off. How they gonna live? They had to vote. The vote will be unanimous. Keep crime. This is how they're paying their bills, sending their kids to college. Judges. Everybody eat off crime, COs, judges, lawyers, cops, uh, detectives, private investigators. It's about 10 entities that's eating off a crime. Well, now you got the warden, you got the the C Everybody's eating off the doctors that got to come in there and check out the people. All this is a branch of source of income. So why the hell I want to stop crime? I'm just on the side, I ain't going in there, I ain't committing no crime, but get me a job working against the crime.

SPEAKER_03 51:54

And he, like you said, they having these highways built and these roads built in certain places off of the, you know what I mean, the sweat of the other of these young individuals going to prison. Like you said, in Florida, what do they say about the boy? So he's nice and strong. Yeah. We can get plenty of years of work out there. Threat equity.

SPEAKER_01 52:10

Why kill him, Yana? Why we gotta kill these boys? We got four, 30 young men. That's gonna build up. We can get a dub or better of great work from them. A dub or better. They in their 20s. You can work them till they 60. That's when they start getting, and then 60, you ain't feeble in there. Used to use 60 year olds look better than 40-year-olds out here. They in there still looking good and know how to do 100,000 push-ups and all that. No, we could work these niggas till they die. We're gonna get sweat equity better. Uh better, better. We we were getting something from that instead of just killing them. Killing them off is like, damn, all right, damn. It's over with. Not only, okay, killings only satisfies the person, the victim's family. Yeah. Having them work for the rest of their life satisfies everybody. The victim family, because you know they be cool with you being in there for life. The the guards and the wardens, and like you said, we they making money off your back for life. You know, the courts, because you keep trying to pin in appeals and don't let nobody have no money. Lawyers, yeah, you know, this pill denied. You've been fighting for 24 years, you still pitting in pills. You know what I'm saying? Because if you got life, evidently you went to trial, so you got all your appeal rights. You know what I mean? Even if you don't got a paid lawyer, you still can file pill rights with, you know, pro sea cancel, which is court opponents, and they still gotta get paid. So everybody eats off of you staying alive and being in prison. Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 53:39

Exactly. It's no coins for you being dead. It's a billion-dollar industry that is is is gonna, if it stops, it's gonna be detrimental. A lot of people are gonna be will be broke. Y'all don't forget to hit the like button, y'all. Everybody's in the chat, like button, man. Don't forget July 18th, um, live event at live, a World Live Cafe. It's gonna be a crazy, crazy event. Now, you got um people that's like I said, out here breaking law, killing people, robbing people, stealing, all these different things, right? And like we said, we we incorporate the fact of the matter of killing people. What about for the person who does something like rob somebody and they say I'm chopped that arm off for robbing? You get convicted of robber's mom and chop chop, you know, your whole forearm.

SPEAKER_01 54:30

But you you bringing up chariot laws. You're saying if they implement these laws over here, see, I can't really, you know what I mean, go with it because I just hear about that stuff in the I'm over here.

SPEAKER_03 54:37

You just heard about it right here. They said they're gonna do a fire and squad here, but over here. But I'm saying if they start doing different stuff, like these these things is real.

SPEAKER_01 54:46

I got to see how I got to see how the because the the temperature is already set in society, ain't like this been going on for hundreds of because you're gonna have to put it then, people gonna have to see it to believe it. That's what I'm saying. I'm talking about over and over. You have people seeing it and be like, Yeah, I ain't gonna be me. You got people getting life every day and niggas still go out there and shooting kids. Jail is not that intimidating because everybody is still normal. Life is intimidating though. Life in jail, okay, cool. Jail is not intimidating because people get out. Life ain't is intimidating in our community.

SPEAKER_03 55:12

Even people that got life is not really that intimidating because we hear about well with me.

SPEAKER_01 55:16

It is with me. I hear life, I get to start shaking. Yeah, because you was in there. Yeah, so it's intimidating to me, and I quite a few men that I know. What do they say every time somebody goes, No, that's my bro, man. Hold your head. Yeah, they go, You gotta say that. But you gotta say who goes in there and be like, Yeah, I'm just dead or nothing. No, hold your head. It's so normal, man. It's so normal for people to I'm not saying it won't change nothing, because I'm quite sure it will. A person see a motherfucker getting his arm castrated for stealing, and you seeing this on a uh open public front and all that, and you see it after his guilty verdict, he got that joint chopped off. Niggas gonna be like, Oh, chicks whoever still, they're gonna be like, yo, yeah, but when it gets crunchy, what out rules? My stomach being to my back or my arm being off. And if I got to decide, man, I got to go with the convict, man. I'm gonna try my hand. You don't think you're gonna get that? You're only saying it because it's not having it. No, it's not because it's not happening. I just know what it's like to be broke, bro. Yeah, I know what it's like. I know why people doing it, but to what extent? Okay, boo, you could go get you a job that's gonna take you a lot longer to get where you at. But I'm here with them. I'm not separated from them. I know what it feels like to be hungry on your face. A nigga would know, yo, they seen three people get shot in their head trying to go steal from this market. Three people, he they know he ain't playing. Mr. Lou ain't playing. And a nigga still will go try Mr. Lou after he got these three different homicides. Why? Because his hunger outweighed his intellect of what the fuck can happen. I remember I was hunger is way worse than knowing a penalty for a crime, bro.

SPEAKER_03 56:43

I remember I was a young boy. We was um I was down, um, I was in the car with uh shout out to uh uh old head go down. We down, we going down J. Down in um they just go down there and go get the syrup and stuff like that. Whatever. So I'm in the car with them. They had like this big Lincoln, like a big one of them big box shit Lincolns. So we down J down there getting the syrup. These bulls pulled up in the van, right? Like right in front of us, like in the front of us. The van was in front of them. They because you know that that block to be crazy. And um, so the bulls come up, hop out the van with guns, heavy, lay, lay, lay, lay the whole, like all of them down out there. And I'm in a car, so I'm looking out there. When I'm a young boy, I'm probably like I don't know how old I was, maybe 14, 15, whatever, I forget. But I just remember seeing the violence that the type of the way they was robbing them, like on the ground, hitting them, kicking them. And it was like they like like like they wanted to shoot them. Like it was like, you know, they wanted to like really like like harm them. But we ended up backing out the block and saying, No, you know, you heard some shots that go off. I'm thinking that maybe somebody got got killed that day by that situation. But it just the aggressive mentality of people and the violence against one another, whether it's robbing, whether it's shooting, whatever, whatever it may be. Like you said, the back beats, they back detection. So normally people want to do is go after the at the uh opportunity, a drug dealer, or they want to rob something where they can get some money. But ultimately, we don't the reason why people are thinking that they do that stuff like robbing or or or something like that right away is because jail is not people not scared of jail, bro. When when they when they're hungry, but people but they will be scared of death, I believe.

SPEAKER_01 58:25

It's not that people are not scared of jail, it's just a it's a thought that overruled you. Niggas still don't want to go. Ain't like he did the robbery and went and turned yourself in. That means you're not scared of jail. Not gun, not wanting to go and scared is two different things. Yeah, but in your mind, too, when you're doing this, you're not thinking you're gonna get caught, feet. When you out here breaking these laws and doing this, that's why you're massing up and doing, you're taking all the precaution not to go, but you have to do this because you got to survive.

SPEAKER_03 58:51

What I'm saying to you is it's a difference between not wanting to do something and scared to do something. You know what I'm saying? Whatever you want to break it, I have. You know what I'm saying? Like, just think about it. I don't want to go there, but or I'm scared to go there. Or I'm scared. I I don't like this, but I'm scared. It's just it's two different things. Like, I don't want to go to jail, but I ain't scared to go in there because there's dudes in there that I can prey on and take advantage of whatever case may be. But if I was scared to go to prison and then want to go there, then it's a different. You're like, I ain't like me personally, I'm scared to go to jail. Not because I'm scared of millionaire, I'm scared of just going in there and losing my freedom. I'm afraid to lose my freedom. I'm afraid to be in jail. So for me, that's enough of me. So you know what? If it all went bad the day or tomorrow, I'll give me a job, man. You know, no matter what it is, you know, I'll give me a job, I'll just figure it out because I just I just hustle a different way. Because I'm actually really scared to go to jail. You know what I'm saying? I am scared, I can actually admit it. I don't know if everybody else can say that, but I'm scared to go to prison. Not that I'm, you know, like I said, scared of I just I just fear everything that that can happen by me band in there. The time loss, you know, business loss, uh, you know, family members, all the different things. So that did that that just scares me enough to keep me away from it. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, not wanting to do something and scared of something is two different things. You know what I mean? I don't know what y'all think in the chat. You know, so like I said, if more individuals were scared to do something, then they wouldn't do it. Like you you what are you scared to do? You ain't scared to go and say nothing that scares you, I'm scared, like I don't want to do that. Not that you're a punk, but something that might scare you that you won't that you won't do. Like, ain't you scared of roller coasters?

SPEAKER_01 1:00:33

Yeah, I'm scared of roller coasters. I won't get on.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:35

We can't get you to get on them when you go to the amusement park because you're scared. Not saying that you was a you were less of a man, but you scared to get on roller coasters, so you're not even gonna go no nowhere near it. And to get you on a roller coaster, we probably would have to fight you two for nail to get you on the on that drink. You know what I mean? So it's just it's just different. You know what I mean? Shot two on five nitro, nine to five is better than a ten to twenty. You better believe it. You better believe it. So I think that nine to five. Now sometimes like young guys, young, younger guys, like we was young, we weren't scared to go to jail, we didn't want to go. We was because everybody in the hood was going to jail. But we were scared to get killed.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:21

Everybody's scared to get killed, nobody wanna die.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:23

That's what I'm saying. It's the difference. It's different. So we you do everything in your power not to not get killed. And you try not to go to jail, but the effort of not being killed opposed to going to jail, we think people put more effort in not getting killed or going to jail. What happened now? Do you think do you think people put more effort in, you know, not not not being killed opposed to going to jail?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:49

Probably put in effort more than not going to jail because they always covering their ex. I don't know. I don't know. I I don't be thinking about stuff like that. What do uh I don't know. That's a good question, though.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:59

What y'all think? Do people put more effort in, you know, protect themselves from going to jail or or from being from being killed? Because the person is like, you know what? I might go to jail with it carrying this gun, but this gun could be can stop me from being killed if I got a gun on me. You know what I mean? So I'm more afraid to, you know what I'm saying? You if you hustling, you you got a gun on you. The gun can lead you to go to jail, but you gotta protect yourself from being killed out here. So you gotta have a gun on you. So, you know, but that's just that's just a thing that we that that goes on now. This to go roll back to this this this this young lady again in her situation right now, you know, she's probably afraid to go afraid to go to jail or don't want to go to jail. I mean, she probably don't want, don't want to go to prison.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:43

Don't nobody want to go there. Ain't no probably about it. Who who you know that wanna go to jail, Feek? I'm saying, what I'm saying to you is she don't want to go to jail, but is she scared to go to jail? Oh, I'm G you goddamn right. She probably scared to go to jail. If she hiding, she's scared to go to jail. If she wasn't scared, she'd turned herself in.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:59

What you think? No, I'm saying she, but you can say that, but she just don't want to go. She ain't trying to go to prison. She ain't trying to go. Anything that you ain't trying to do, do you scared of doing? I bet you somebody will run longer if they told me they're gonna kill you. When I catch you, I'm gonna kill you. They're gonna run, they ain't they're not turning themselves and all right, I'm I I can't run no more. I'm gonna kill. But people get tired of running, so they go turn themselves in to go to jail, because jail is jail. But if they told you, if I catch you, I'm gonna kill you, people gonna run forever. They're gonna run. You know what I'm saying? So that's just the way I see it. Now, um back to the we talk about the pastors who did this this heinous acts against against these against these kids. They're not gonna even get not gonna get that much time. They don't even get them that much time.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:45

No, they've been giving them, they be giving them time now in the feds. Really? Yeah, they're getting 40 years, 50 years, the boo them boys be, I'm talking about army vets. Niggas that fought for this country for years and decide to play with a child all of a sudden. And they and they later, like my bunky before I just left my violation at Lo Loreto in uh what's that in Pennsylvania? And they call it the jail name is Loretto. They call there's a nickname called Cho Retto, meaning they fill this whole jail up with child molesters. And my bunky was a child molester, and he had like 56 years, and he was like 56 years old. Damn. And he just was coming in on it like a year and a half in on it. You talked to him about it? Yeah, I talked to him about it. He said he's a looker, not a toucher. Because you got lookers, like dudes that got a whole bunch of uh kids' sex accesses when they that's a crime. If you were sitting there on your phone and you watching grown men get head from little ass kids, they could lock you up for that. You know what I mean? So they call them lookers. And then they could the ones that touch them, they call them touchers. You know what I'm saying? They got, you know, vicious little slang phones. So I'm like, damn, you a looker. He like, yeah, man. I had a bunch of stuff on my computer, and they seen where my sights was and all that, and they booked me. And they gave me 56 years, man. I'm like, 56 years? Looking. Like they tracked down his computers and all. He was on army base doing it.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:02

Oh, did an arm be? I'm trying to figure out what happened, how he got caught to go in there. Yeah, man. People be having sicknesses, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:08

Real old, and you would never think, like you'll look at him, and he like receding in his glasses, and I'm using his phone because you know everybody get uh phones, like you get a phone your own phone like minutes for the month in the feds. Everybody, you know, so them, they don't be having, you know, everybody done cut them off. Family members, once they get caught for that, they ain't got no lose their wives, they lose their own kids. So he ain't got nobody to call. So he got 500 minutes that he ain't using every month. So I tell him I'm on my way out the door. I got about a month left before I come home this time. So I'm like, yo, let me put two numbers on your list. You know, I'm pressing him out, I know he's gonna do it. Like, yeah, go ahead, you can do it. I ain't nobody can get you a bag of coffee or something at the store. He's like, go ahead, I don't use my drones. And I'm using this drone for like two weeks straight. Mind you, I got about 30 days. Then we get caught with a write up and you're ready to go home, that could stop you from going home. It'll push your date back. And I was going to the halfway house. So they could have taken my halfway house time and gave me. Me more time doing jib. So I'm playing a vicious game by being on somebody else's line. So I'm calling whatever, whatever. So one morning I get up. I'm out early in the morning, breakfast time. You know, breakfast time, like 6:30 in the morning. Everybody usually don't get up. So when people go to breakfast, the unit is relatively quiet because whoever else is left on the unit is still asleep. And then everybody else is off the unit for breakfast. So I'm one of the only ones. It's probably like three people in the day room, and I'm one of the three. And I'm sitting there in the guard is coming back from the door where he just opened the door to let everybody out off the unit to go to breakfast. So he's walking past me. I'm drinking coffee early in the morning. He stopped and said, Don't you go home in two weeks? He said, You would hate to have your date taken from being on that boy's phone. And walked off. I'm sitting there drinking my coffee like he ain't never said nothing to me. But the whole time I'm like, oh my fucking God, they done heard me on the phone. They're gonna write me up. They're gonna take my all I'm thinking about is them taking my date. I'm ready to go home. This is your last, your last bit? This is just now. This just now before I came home. And I'm like, damn, I go home in like two weeks. I'm like, that write up would have held me up three, four more months. I'm sitting there, so like five minutes go past. I'm like, man, I go in the office with him. Damn, CO man, what's up, man? Like, yeah, I was on board phone, man. He's like, I know you was. He's like, first and foremost, he's like, you motherfuckers gotta stop being idiots. I'm like, then when you say that, he's like, we gotta monitor all the child molester calls. Would they get their calls monitored all every time they the phone, the code or whatever, let's alert them that they're using their phone line and they gotta monitor to make sure they ain't trying to contact no kids. He's like, so you should pick a black guy, at least you got a white boy, and you go in there and you, and it's a whole black conversation I'm listening to. And you know the conversation from him. We gotta listen to these calls. He's like, listen, I heard it. I see you ready, go home. You don't never give me no problems, I ain't gonna write you up. He's like, but I can't say if center control, because they uh monitor the calls too, which is the main center where the guards be at. He like, now they might have heard it. You know, they got 24 hours to give you the write-up. If you make it past 24 hours, I'm not gonna write you up. I'm like, all right, man. Then he tried to get me with the joint. I'm like, shit, you got a couple things out, you know, with some phones. I said, man, I ain't getting it. I go home in two weeks. I don't know where no phones at, with no liquor at, none of that shit. I'm in here talking to you, like letting you know as a man, I'm out of pocket, I'm doing a violation, I'm ready to go home in two weeks, man. I won't never use this bull for. I'm ahead keeping it real with him, because you know got some niggas, it wasn't me, it wasn't me. Then you gotta go through the uh disciplinary hearing officer and see if you get found gifted, you're getting found guilty. And uh he ain't write me up. The next two days, I'm gonna pin his knee every time I hear attention. When you hear that over the loudspeaker, they ready to call somebody even to the lieutenant office, chaplain, medical, child, rec move. But it's all gonna be, if you gotta go to the lieutenant office, it's gonna come from over the loudspeaker. Uh Jackson 56992066, report to the lieutenant office. This is what I'm every time I hear, like because before it comes on and they start talking, all you hear is boom, and then they start talking. So I might be playing cards and then I hear boom, hold up, yo. All right, cool. They ain't say my name. Ten minutes later, all day long, you'll hear this all day long because they're calling people to wherever they gotta go. If they'd have been like Jackson to the lieutenant office, I knew I was getting a write-up for using that man's phone.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:19

And um, how far is the lieutenant office on your block?

SPEAKER_01 1:09:22

Probably like five minutes. You get let off the block and you go down near the child hall. The lieutenant office usually be near the child hall. So you gotta walk in there and they say, listen. Yeah, yeah, we got a write-up for you. We got a 200 series write-up for you. Boom. You got you gotta sign like No, you don't you get your write-up handed to you. Now you got within, they gotta come see you within the next three days, UDC, which is uni team. And uni team, all they say is you would you plead guilty, not guilty? All right, well, if you're found guilty, we recommend 40 days of loss of good time. We recommend 30 days of whole time, we recommend six months loss of commissary. That's if you're found guilty. That's all they're there for. So after they serve you that that that in three days, now you're waiting to see the DHO. This is in the federal system, and DHO stands for disciplinary hearing officer. So this is an officer that does not work on the jail, work at the jail. Their job is to go to different jails throughout the week, and they might get the the rhetorical where I was at, and they gotta hear like 20 write-ups. So he might be there like three hours that day. Uh and you know, everybody, yeah, you report to such and such, where you could go get your write up heard. So if I go in there and the disciplinary officer be like, yeah, I found you guilty, I gotta go to hold for that.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:28

Do you get the same hit if you plea out?

SPEAKER_01 1:10:32

Yeah, hell yeah. If you say, yeah, you goddamn right. You this is what you did. You broke a law in here, and this is what we give out. Oh, so they don't give you no means to be.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:42

I thought you said that.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:43

Um, well, that's that's in the court system. Like we're talking about in the jail system now. Okay. The penal system in jail, if you want to say that.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:51

And that's your question. Is there any uh benefit in you um saying I didn't do it or or fighting it?

SPEAKER_01 1:10:58

No, it's just going, she's gonna just crack you harder. Or he, the DHO officer, it's just gonna crack you harder. Like you ain't taking ownership, or you already gonna get banged if you take ownership. But they gonna bang you even harder if you're in there just playing around and not trying to take ownership. So you got you just did all if you get that write-up, man. I seen people beat write-ups and all that, but it's far a few in between. They're gonna bang you even harder, huh?

SPEAKER_03 1:11:21

Yeah. Heavily. Oh wow, on duty. So that's, I mean, it just just crazy situation, man. Listen, y'all, we're gonna get to these phone calls, man. Uh 215-316-4492, 215-316-4492. We'll take a quick break, like 30 seconds, be right back. First of all, I want to thank everybody who's been tuning in to Tell us from the Jails. Listen, we need everybody to do something for us. If you really like what you see on Tell us from the Jails, you're really interested in what you see on Tell us from the Gels, we need you to go to YouTube at Tells from the Gels and become a member. Subscribe as well, but also become a member. That way you can get you know updated on all the new content as we continue to bring you these uh amazing episodes. So we want everyone to go to the tells or go to YouTube at Tells from the Gels and become a member.

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SPEAKER_03 1:12:40

Right back action. What's up? Tell us from the judges, we speaking with yeah, that's the the the so the so the in-house but but hold on. You said so it's a guideline, right? It's a guideline if you if you plead that plea out to to that that charge. What you mean they can they they'll give you a a harder sentence. What you mean? I'm talking about in jail. You said you said you said that if you if you uh go to go like go to trial or whatever or fight it.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:18

What you talking about, what you talking about? Street and trial or in jail? In jail, going to trial. Oh, because if you don't take that, you're getting booked either way, unless it's outright that you didn't do it, whatever they wrote you up for. But if you went there and telling I ain't do it, they just like, yeah, all right, yeah. Instead of 30 days, take this 45.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:33

Answer that. Tell us from the jail so he's speaking with James. What's up, James? Who James the Flames? What's up, man? Shit.

SPEAKER_09 1:13:43

I just want to look at y'all doing a good job. And tell Black that I think he should get t-shirts that say at an alarming rate because he used that so much. It should be so funny.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:56

Yeah, we're gonna have we're gonna have all this up at the at the live event, man. Man, what's up with you though, y'all? I'm good. Alright, man, anything else? No, that's it. I appreciate you, bro. Enjoy your day, man. You too. You too. Yeah, man. You d I I think that um, yeah, I want to say at the live event, y'all, we're gonna have all t-shirts, man. We we gonna we gonna we're gonna do a smile online? Tell us from the jails. Yep. What's up, man? What's probably what's going on? What's going on? Chilling, man. Who you speaking with?

SPEAKER_04 1:14:31

Yeah, you're talking it nice. Harrisburg again. I called, you know, I I I'm checking in all day. I told y'all checking in. Harrisburg, man. What's going on? Man, everything good. Y'all having another good episode. Y'all still killing shit.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:42

You know, do appreciate that for sure.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:45

Yeah, of course, of course. Yes, uh, what I want to say some uh speak. You I told Black he was a bad boy, but you a bad boy too. You know what I'm saying? You be you be on your you be on your yeah, you be on your grown man. Appreciate that. I'm more I'm more I'm more of a savage myself as as black is. You know what I'm saying? I'm more of a I keep it all the way, you know, to the cannonball, you know what I'm saying? But you but you got you got the logic. We need a logical player around sometime, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 1:15:09

I appreciate that, man. Appreciate that.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:11

Yeah, yeah. Keep us alive a little bit longer, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 1:15:15

Okay, man. Appreciate that, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:17

Of course, of course. Y'all keep doing your thing. I'm gonna check in later on, voila.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:20

All right, thanks, man. Well, yeah, so we got uh we're gonna have the not on duty shirts there. We're gonna have the alarm and rate shirts there as well. You know, we're gonna see, you know, which ones people, you know, that the gang, you know, support more. You know, I think it's gonna probably be alarming rate. I I'll probably get an edge to alarm and rate though. I think that's gonna, you know, that's gonna be a a good hey James, that wasn't you, man. Hold on. James. My bad, James the flame, my bad, bro. Shout out to that other James as well. Let's get it. Tell us from the jails, we speaking with.

SPEAKER_08 1:15:59

All right, calling from KLP.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:01

What's up, man? Shout out to King of Pressure.

SPEAKER_08 1:16:04

What's up, bro? I watch it all the time. And uh I just wanted to give a little time in and give a little insight. I I really like y'all channels a lot. But I think I won't try to talk about the Carmelo Anthony topic. Like, I don't know if I've been doing y'all due diligence or studies on that, but I feel like I should talk about that. He got this new dream team, warrior team, full bonus. I think I think that I think the audience will really like to hear that because it's a hot topic right now.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:31

Okay, for sure. I totally agree. So what we'll do is tomorrow we well, today we'll look into it and then uh we'll we'll kind of look up the new uh you know news about that case and we'll talk about it tomorrow for sure.

SPEAKER_08 1:16:42

I appreciate that, bro. And I'm coming to our live audience too. Me and my girl gonna be there, so looking forward to that.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:47

All right, for sure, man. We're gonna be there, we're gonna have a good time, man. Appreciate you.

SPEAKER_08 1:16:51

Thanks, bro.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:53

Yeah, man. So yeah. I mean, I gotta look into that Carmel Anthony situation and really really kind of dive into it.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:00

Yeah, we already talked, we talked about it briefly, but I think it's like more Yeah, because they got it, they got him a legal team and all this and that.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:06

I think they raised some money, like something like that, to kind of get him about get him a uh, you know, go fund, go fund me or something like that, I believe. But we'll we'll check into. I don't want to talk about too much about it because I don't know. Yo, yo, James the Flanes, my bad, bro. I I didn't I thought it was you. I was I was wondering why the conversation was kind of short. But uh shout out to that other James, man. You know, he's been supporting us too. Tell us from the jails, who we speaking with.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:35

Uh this twin from North Philly. This who?

SPEAKER_03 1:17:39

This who?

SPEAKER_05 1:17:41

Twin, twin.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:42

What's up, Twin? From you said from Adamsford?

SPEAKER_05 1:17:44

Yeah, yeah, Evishard, yeah, yeah. I'm 24. I'm 24.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:48

Oh, what's up, man? What's going on, man? How can we help you today, man?

SPEAKER_05 1:17:51

I I ain't never been to jail, nothing. I'm a good citizen. I ain't do nothing, you know. I just wonder, like, I I heard your man Brahim said he could be Clarissa and Bud and all of them, or he could take them off.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:04

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:05

I wanted to know, I'm 24. Do he think he could take me on? Uh like wait, wait, before he answered. I'm 5'5, I'm probably like 100 pounds, 99 on the good dude. Do he think he could get off on me?

SPEAKER_01 1:18:18

You said you 5'5, 100 pounds. Yeah, yeah. Hold on. It's just like a uh Yeah, yeah, it's you ever see the incredible Hulk movie when he was like Hulk Smash and he and he had Loki and he was throwing him around from side to side, like 10 on each side?

SPEAKER_05 1:18:37

But wait, is Raheem here? I'm five, five, a hundred pounds. Like, I'm really big though.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:42

Okay, well, well, you know, listen, man. You is matter of fact, I don't think I can take you, man. No, dude. I think this is.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:48

Wait, wait. All right, can I can I I got another question though. I was playing though, that was like a joke. But like, who was the biggest nigga like on whatever deck you was on? And it was like, damn, this nigga big as shit. And you probably like look at him like I ain't fighting this nigga.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:02

I seen so many of them that I can't even tell you the biggest one. Cause you, I mean, you big yourself. I saw you in. Yeah, six foot six one. No, you not. You six one? Yeah, six six one, six foot. No, I ain't five ten, no. I was five eleven last time I took. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:21

Damn. Like, like what like I I don't I was the smallest person you seen came through the jail? And you like, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:31

Well, shit, about about five three, five, four. I got a co-defender that's like five one.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:36

He said it was it was uh a dwarf in there, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:19:39

Uh huh. It's a dwarf in there. He was husky. No, he wasn't husky, he was just little.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:45

Was he on it?

SPEAKER_01 1:19:46

Well, shit, it'd be the little guys that's on it. Hell yeah. They got they got the hearts of a goddamn lion.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:52

Man, I can't I can't go through what y'all live, man. I go through that. I gotta grab everything I can, metal what? This is weird.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:00

Please stay on the track that you want, man. Stay listening to the weirdness, man. Stay on the track you want and stay from out of there.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:06

Yeah, no, no, no, see it. That's what I'm saying. I I watch y'all, but like I ain't never been a trouble kid. I've always been a good kid.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:12

Like, you know, that's what's up, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:14

I'm 24, I'm grown. Like, this is real. Like, come on, bills, all that. Like, I ain't never been one of them.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:20

That's what's up, man. That's what's up.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:22

So I mean, I stay out of the way. I stay in my lane, basically. But I like I I like what y'all do though. Like, y'all tell you, like, this not the place to go to. I I I seen one nigga that was smaller than me, and I'm five, five, a hundred pounds. It was like, he really just like that. I was like, what?

SPEAKER_03 1:20:40

Well, thanks for calling in.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:42

I was down Diamond Street, but they uh though.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:45

All right, thank you, man. Appreciate you, man. Enjoy your day, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:47

You too.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:54

Yo, don't forget to call in, y'all. 205-316-4492. 215-316-4492. So he said he's 5'5, 100 pounds.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:05

Yeah. And you said you were uh do I think I could take him?

SPEAKER_03 1:21:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:12

Nigga in the jail kiss him on his cheek, man. Kissing him on his way, man. Taking candy from a baby.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:27

Yeah, 100 pounds, five, five. That's like yeah. Yeah. You never know though. You're like somebody on the, you know what I mean, on a good day. Be nice with the hands. So, so hold on, listen. In jail, right? It's no, it's is no rules to fighting. I mean, like, I'm gonna I can I can pick you up, slam you, I can punch you, whatever. There's no rules.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:50

All that grab nuts, bite ass cheeks, all that. Everything to win. Anything that you can think of to win, please do it. Because it's gonna get done to you.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:02

Is the stat is it is it uh is it many stabbings up in the uh upstate in the feds? Yeah. What do you mean upstate? You mean at the jails? Yeah, like not in the county, but when you get further out, is it more like yeah, stabbing is everywhere you go.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:14

Everywhere you go is nigga getting stabbed. Lowe's camps, FCIs, penitentiaries, and stabbings everywhere you land.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:24

215-316-4492, 215-316-4492. Dustin Beauty, what's up? Yo, yo, he on the road at 215 Nitro, man. This boy is crazy, right? This boy crazy. 55 Brown Nines. Come on, money. 03700. He said, he said 55 brown eyes. Yeah, y'all. Uh call in, man. 215-316-4492. Don't forget July 18th. The event is gonna be crazy. We're gonna be giving away some giving away some things. We're still waiting for listen, y'all. Yeah, I know we kind of knew to this, man. I wasn't gonna talk about it, but we still waiting for these people to generate the actual tickets, man. So they generating that stuff now. They having an issue or whatever, but it should be resolved. We still got time. You know, we got we got almost 20 something days before we have the event. So we have everything really in place uh for sure, man. So don't don't don't don't worry about it. We just working out the kinks and everything. We like we just real transparent with everything because it's new. Tell us from the jails who you speaking with.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:29

What's up? This Grizz, I'm from Cody.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:32

What's up, bro?

SPEAKER_07 1:23:41

What's the worst thing he ever did on that?

SPEAKER_01 1:23:44

Um, the worst thing I ever did, I grabbed a nigga dick and shit trying to get it off me. I probably was on the ground and he was punching me too hard, and I grabbed that dick and got it right up off me. Yeah, I sure enough did. I was trying to win by any means necessary. Yes, I did. Show enough did. Yo, man.

SPEAKER_07 1:24:05

Like, what?

SPEAKER_01 1:24:06

Come on.

SPEAKER_07 1:24:07

Why you had to say though?

SPEAKER_01 1:24:09

You could have got nothing else. No, that I knew that was gonna a soft spot that's gonna get you out of here. Yeah, it's all types of stuff. So you just got the giggles today, man. I'm ready.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:19

Yeah, is everybody ready calling? I got some yo. Listen, man. All right, sure.

SPEAKER_07 1:24:24

I'm ready to be done.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:25

Enjoy your night. Why I can't laugh today, man.

SPEAKER_07 1:24:27

All right, you too.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:28

All right, 215, 316, 449. I can't laugh today. I'm saying I gotta be back. I gotta get angry. Tell us from the jails who you speaking with.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:39

This this coming again. I had to go again. Ain't nobody kissing me, nothing. We ain't going for none of that.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:45

But you better not.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:46

Uh, but but uh, like I got Ezrain, like did he ever read like when he was in jail?

SPEAKER_01 1:24:52

Yeah, I read a whole lot. I told you he's read uh what is it?

SPEAKER_05 1:24:55

Like you know about like the 48 Laws of Power.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:57

I don't read, I don't, that's the only thing is I never read because I when I got to because I read the 48 Laws of Power at another jail before, like in a state before I even came to the feds. Everything the 48.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:08

You did 21 years in jail, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:25:10

Yes.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:11

More than Wallow. You ever saw Wallow in the jail?

SPEAKER_01 1:25:13

No, he was in the state. I was in the feds. The feds, worse, right? If you ask me, yes, I would say that.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:21

How do you do that though?

SPEAKER_01 1:25:24

Just did it. With the how you live. You wake up and live every day, right? What you gonna do?

SPEAKER_05 1:25:29

You you you was bullying niggas in there?

SPEAKER_01 1:25:32

Nah, nah, nah. I was just mad at the rats at first, but I'm never a bully.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:37

Damn, like, how you feel? You was dealing with a girl while you was in there, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:25:42

A couple times. They leave, they come, they leave, they come, they leave.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:45

They leave and come and go. They come and come. And then when you wait, so when you got out, they was all on you.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:50

You better say, like flies on shit. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:53

And how you carry that, like yeah, and uh move around.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:56

All right, for the ones that left and go left and went, I already know how to carry them. You ain't really sturdy enough for me, especially if I know what I'm out here doing. You just around for a short time, you ain't around for a long time. Now, if it's a new female that didn't know me, then I'll give her a little bit more chance.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:10

And like y'all, y'all move around Philly, like y'all be outside in Philly, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:26:14

I know I do. I don't know about tall feet, but I'll be outside, I'll be everywhere. I'll be outside.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:19

Oh, that's crazy. Like, yeah, I same thing. I'm still five, five, about like 100 pounds on a good day. I don't eat, I'm 99. Like, you was working out in there?

SPEAKER_03 1:26:30

Yeah. Yeah, bad. Hey, hey, hey, we go, we go, we, we go, we're gonna let you go, man. But thanks for calling in, man. Appreciate you, man. Appreciate you, bro. Thanks, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:38

He he just uh honest young kids asking questions. He ain't on no freaks in there. No, I don't think so either. No, he he he he's just yeah, like he's mesmerized. Like, dang you did all like that. He he ain't yeah, you can tell if he he did if he'd wanted some dick, he'd have been asked for a long time.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:54

Dude, what's up with him? Yo, hey Jay's what you talking about, man. I'm not hitting yo. So listen, y'all, the line. So we'll take a few more calls. We got a few more minutes before we get up out of here. Uh 215-316-4492. 92, I'm sorry. OG left hand, what's up? Ski dash B7U. The bull underscore lil. What's up, y'all? You know what I mean? Johnny Goods, one two three two. I see everybody in the chat. Dark skin beauty, where you been at? Everybody here, man. You know, so but you know, the thing, the thing about it, just like you said, some people just don't really don't really don't really know about prison. They and they just, like you said, a lot of people, majority of the world about it.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:40

Majority of the world wants to know what is, especially the ones that never been to prison. What am I paying my tax? Because you know, a lot of your tax got dollars go to the penal system. And so what is it? Is they getting rehabilitated? Like what's going on hearing at the heinous heinous places and they want to know about it. So now when they start getting the shit, they hearing these stories, they're intriguing. They're intriguing to me, and I've been in there damn near all my life. And so you imagine a person that never been in there watched just a movie about it, and the movie is watered down version and don't never believe that. So, yeah, people want to know about that. People want to know, you know, you got a taxpayer that they want to know if their dollar's being well spun, if there's rehabilitation behind this. Is uh, you know, people want to know about as far as how these people keep escaping. You see all them people keep escaping from them Florida jails and all that. Like, well, damn. Well, how the hell they people want to know about what's going on in that place, man. Especially the ones that ain't never been there. And it's way more people that ain't never been to jail than the people that been to jail. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:40

Yo, don't forget, y'all. Apple Podcasts, we on there, iHeartRadio, Spotify. We there as well. If y'all don't listen while y'all driving, because sometimes people take a road trip. Y'all can just check us out uh there on those platforms, man. Um, anything else you want to say before we get up out of here, young?

SPEAKER_01 1:28:55

Man, thank, man. It's hot out there. The heat is out, the meat is out, man. Jordo, shout out to Jordo. Stand up. That's you, J Money. I see you in there, man, running your mouth as always. Stand up, Baltimore. Um, yeah, man, we about here, man. Make sure y'all think, man. Uh, have a great time, man. We're coming to the close of this week, man. And everybody wanna relax. People got some trips playing to the beach or something like that, man. Think, man. Use your head, man. And that's it. I agree. I agree.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:22

Oh, we got another call. We'll take that. Tell some gels.

SPEAKER_06 1:29:26

We speaking with my name, Big O, man, out of California, Bay Area.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:31

Shout out to Big O. What's up, man? Shout out to California. What's up, man? What's going on?

SPEAKER_06 1:29:35

Oh man, I'm just Lilith, man. I watch y'all every day, bro. Appreciate you. I just want to shout out Black, man. I like what you're doing, bro. God gonna bless you, bro. I can tell you a good nigga, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:45

Hear that so much. But yeah. Yeah, you're definitely right, though. Thank you, man. I appreciate the support, man. Man, keep watching, man. And turn the guys on out there, man. A lot of the guys in Cali is my men. I've been out there with them, man. Yeah, I mean the Crips, man, the Bloods, man, the non-associate gang members, man. Turn them on to the show, man. For the ones that don't know, man. It's very informative.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:05

Well, it's crazy that you say that, man, because I don't even be in the street like that no more, man. A lot of people I used to deal with, I don't even deal with them no more.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:12

Yeah, right. That's a good thing.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:14

You feel me? So I do my own thing. I'm like, yo, age, man. I'm 36, 1980.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:20

Yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's what's up.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:23

It ain't time to be roaming the streets no more, man. That's why I tune in, y'all, to keep me alert.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:28

Yeah, man. That's what's up, man. We appreciate the call, man.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:33

And tell you about a few stories that could have landed me in there, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:37

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:38

Yeah, but I know y'all trying to go, so you know, I'll tell y'all in a few episodes or so.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:43

Alright, we appreciate that. Man, hopefully we can see you at the live event, man. Philly, man. Maybe you come on down, man. Come on down, fly over, man. We have a good event, man, down there, man. We'll love to see you there.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:53

For sure, man. If I can make it, I'll show you there.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:55

Alright, thanks, man. Enjoy your day.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:57

Yep. Yep.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:59

Yeah, we about to get up out of here, y'all, man. I want to thank everybody who's been uh you know rocking with us from day one and those who are here to support us currently. Okay. Call coming in. Youngboy again. Oh man. Young, young, we get we'll get with you probably tomorrow. You can call anytime you're probably able to get out of here. And um, but yeah, I just want to say the same thing, man. Stay free, stay safe, you know, stay focused out here because at the end of the day, if you ain't focused, you can you can go to jail. Focus on things that are important, man. Um, no, that wanna say, young, you know, the people keep saying it, telling you that you about to get some money, right? I just gotta I just want to get this, you know, I want to say something to you, man. When you get your money, can I be, you know what I mean, entitled to you know something?

SPEAKER_01 1:31:44

You could be entitled to half, bro. Half of that? Because I know you're going to lawyer, yeah. Whatever I get, you entitled to have. Okay. Well, you? Yeah. You goddamn right. Every last time, bro. Yeah. Every last time, bro. Yeah. Because I when I where I came from, you helped me out a whole lot. So I get half. Half of it. Because I know I already know you're going to give it back. I'm talking about when I say give it back, meaning with more flourishing things, because you know my mind is not equipped like yours. Yeah. You, you know what I mean? Yeah, without a sneeze or nothing. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:14

Yeah. All right, hold you to that, man. Yeah. Yeah, man. So listen, y'all. Um, thank y'all for tuning in. July 18th is going to be a crazy event. We're going to have some, you know, we got some stuff, some, some crazy things lined up. It's going to be, and we got a surprise too, for that, that night that he don't even know about. You know what I'm saying? So it's going to be it's going to be a crazy, crazy event. It's going to be all love. And then we just getting everything together, man. Matter of fact, I go pick up that mix board. Listen, y'all, thank y'all for tuning in.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:40

Thank y'all for all the support. And hold up, Jordo, make sure you come, man. July 18th, man. Bring a couple guys from Baltimore, man. We're rolling out the red carpet. We got a great venue. Bring Baltimore up, man. You know y'all are our little cousins. Bring Baltimore in here. Jordo and stop playing around. Bring them men up, man. An hour and 20 minutes. Let's get here. Let's go ahead and support each other like we've been doing.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:01

Mm-hmm. Shout out to all the jails. Everybody listening inside the jails who can't, you know, call in everybody on their cell phones who's in the in the prison systems, who's listening to tell us from the jails, man. Hold your head, stay focused, stay, you know, you know, just try to come home to your family, man, try to better.