COMPENSATION AFTER INCARCERATION : TALES FROM THE JAILS LIVE !!!!

The host speak about individuals being compensated after being falsely accused of crimes leading to extensive prison sentences. These individuals are being released from prison after serving time the host discuss whether the compensation is fair.

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Us here at Tells from the Jails, we are off. Tell us from the Jails. We're here live. Pod Rooms USA TNS Media Group. It's a team and the family. You know why I am. It's Tall Fic Page. Got my counterpart, Mr. Braheem Jackson. We're here today to speak to the people, speak to the world, to spread the awareness about prison, to spread the awareness about, you know, being motivated, staying focused, you know, spread the, you know, the word about, you know, just going out and chasing your dreams, whatever that may be, going out and make it happen. And understand that the sky's the limit. And it's nothing that can stop you from reaching your goals except for yourself. The biggest test that you gotta deal with is battling yourself. If you can defeat yourself and his desires and whatever's going on, you'll be okay. You know, just that the battle is within, for what I believe. That's the biggest test is yourself. So what's going on, young?

SPEAKER_01 10:27

What's up, man? We got going on today, yo. Everything good today. Thursday, man. Pass hump day going into the weekend, man, again, man. Enjoy yourselves this weekend, man. Don't go to jail. Make the uh proper decisions. Sometimes anger may get the best of you, but control yourself. The best of us is the ones that can control yourself and rage. And boy, I've been feeling rage for these last few days. I've been thinking I've been feeling good. But uh, I want to um address something that we were talking about yesterday. Um, we was talking about the two young women that was fighting, the one young lady that lost her life, man. Condolences to her family and stuff like that. And I had made a uh a guesstimation. That's a word that I like to, y'all, as y'all know, I like to make up words. And I'm saying that this girl came to fight and the other girl just stabbed her. No, upon further review last night, the girl was cutting her with a box cutter before she even pulled that knife to slash it in her. And I'm not saying this give her a right to go ahead and kill, but I see now. Now the story is starting to make sense. Uh, she turned herself in last night or yesterday, yesterday while we were doing a live, because I was mentioning that they didn't find her yet. She hiding somebody, she turned herself in.

SPEAKER_02 11:34

Um I said something about that before you keep going. I saw something, I don't know if it was true. It saw like a clip where she was talking to a cop outside.

SPEAKER_01 11:39

Was that that's what I sent you? That's what I sent you. She turned herself in. Okay. That was yesterday. She turned herself in. Um, but like I said, uh the other girl was also slashing her first, slashing her with a box cutter, but you probably couldn't see it at the time because it it looked like she's swinging punches in the box cutters yeha to a grasshopper. So you had to like slow down the image. But you know, with these cameras nowadays, man, everything is coming out live and direct, man. If they got it, they're gonna get everything that's in that uh picture. So I say that to say, man, they both was wrong. They both was wrong, and now I can see where she won't get life at. Yeah, I mean, she was being cut first. What she gonna get though, you think? Oh, she still's gonna get manslaughter. That's like if me and you fighting, and I knock you out and you die. I'm gonna get manslaughter, you know, get a little bit of time, but she's not gonna get life. And it was they was fighting and then it turned into that. I definitely don't see life for her now. You think I see further evidence of what went on in that melee? And again, I condolence to this young lady family, man. It should never happen that way. We should never repeat history. We should look at this, and it's sad to say, but look at this as an example moving forward in life. You know what I'm saying? God put examples in front of us, and we think that we can't never be in that position. Well, me, I'm gonna say me. I don't like to say we. Me, I might look and be like, oh shit, I ain't never gonna do that. But no, this is real life, man. Anything that you see, any if you see a man become a millionaire, just know you could become a millionaire if you ain't already. If you see a man dead, broke, and you got money, don't look down on him knowing the next day that your sun may not be shining, you may be underneath him. So I don't go into a situation looking like damn, dang gonna never be. No, I use these trying or examples or whatever you may want to call them as examples for my life. If I see the way men talking to each other, and then somebody got killed over that, it's a sad situation that happened, but I take a lesson from that. And that lesson is to not be disrespecting men in their face off that's one scenario that I'm giving you. So, you know, I wanted to address that again, man. We had you know, a lot of times we get up here and you know, we know what we're talking about, but we be shooting from the hip because we don't have full information, and that was she was grabbed yesterday before we even started talking about it. She was in custody. All I seen was just a $20,000 reward for her whereabouts or whatever, but she turned herself in. So, you know, she got an uphill battle, but with that being seen, her life ain't gonna be in jeopardy. Did she get a bail for that? Is she the bail? I don't know. I don't know. I can't call it, man.

SPEAKER_02 14:07

I can't call it because it's she might, she might not, I can't call it. The reason why I say I reason why I say that is because you if you look at it, she's been attacked with it with a box cutter. So that so so they say, I don't so you you you look into it more than me. So if this was this was true, the girl had a box cutter, was cutting her first. She pulled out a knife and stabbed her. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 14:27

While they was rumbling, I'm looking at the images last night while they was rumbling and they was showing her the girl didn't have it. You seen that big knife she pulled out. You done seen that from the roof. It was the kitchen knife? It probably was bigger than the kitchen knife. Kitchen knife is yeah. That joint was like a little samurai, a little sword. Where'd she get her at? I don't she hit all of them like all up top. I ain't she ain't getting no like she everything up on this side was getting touched when she was flinging that jam. That knife and knife, that knife can go when you all the way out. You you probably touch heart, probably touch lung. You know what I mean? Because I've been stabbing my chest before, and it was so minute, but I had a collapsed lung. I'm thinking, you know what I mean? This ain't nothing go ahead and patch it up, whatever. I'm ready to die if I don't get no medical contention inside the penal system. So again, uh we apologize about well, I apologize about putting that uh saying the girl didn't have no knife and she could have just fought her gnaw. Upon further review from me, that girl had a box cut in her hand and she was slicing her before she even got stabbed. Now I'm not saying that gives her the right to kill her, but shit, if a motherfucker won your ass with a gun and that knife, in my don't don't make it right. My words, yeah. By all means, take everything that I'm gonna give you. So I'm not saying that girl bore it's just it's just messy, it's bad all the way around the board for both parties.

SPEAKER_02 15:48

You look at the the um the footage you sent me from her talking to the police officer. Did they arrest her right there?

SPEAKER_01 15:54

I like they I think they told her to go turn herself in. Yeah, like they let her walk off. Yeah, because you see the crowd in the back, like, whoa, you ain't gonna arrest her, you just gonna pull off where she's going? Like, what was going on? And I'm like, you know, you one like us that's observing the video, we can only absume. But it looked like they pulled off and left her there, but she's in custody, right?

SPEAKER_02 16:11

She's a kid, though. That's a kid. Yeah, she's a kid, she's in custody. Yeah, but we talk about this all the time, too. A lot of times, like, what would you do in that situation? We always talk about it from a standpoint of if it's your son more so. I don't know why, because boys tend to break the law more than women at the rate where it's like you look at them, we look at a lot of times. At an alarming rate. Yeah, so now your daughter got a case like this, right? Right. What are you saying to her? Like, what are you are you are you saying you did it, you gotta stand on it, or what are you are you are you?

SPEAKER_01 16:40

See, see, all the all the all the me, me. I only can give you what I'm not giving you what y'all should do, I'm giving you what I would do. Leading up to this, you know that your daughter is what she is. You ain't just find out today that your daughter is crazy as shit. And anybody believe that they lying like shit and I don't want to kick it. But she's about what 17, 18, she's matter of fact, she's over said she's a dog, but a younger dog, you know, especially if you're in her life, you know what your daughter is about. There's plenty of lectures you probably gave her prior to this day. So now when it happened, the lectures really from my standpoint, the lectures ain't gonna was doing in there. If I'm gonna be there for um I all that me, I told you, man. You nah, but that shit over with, it's done. What the hell is I told you, and you won't sit unless I'm condemning her and I'm walking away from her.

SPEAKER_02 17:29

But that make it that might hurt her more by talking to her like that. Nah, but still, but you might say I'm saying what they say. I thought the I told you that can hurt her.

SPEAKER_01 17:38

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's definitely gonna hurt her more like that. Like, it's no we're we're already past the threshold now. We inside the house. Past the murder now. Now we go on to what's next. All that energy I'm doing of cussing her out or reprimanding her. I could be putting it into if I'm gonna be there in a couple of hours for a lawyer, or who can I contact to help me out? The energy that I'm wasting. Yo, why what the fuck them 10 minutes gonna do? But make her feel even crazier and probably send you on a set that you didn't even want to get on. And she near stressing.

SPEAKER_02 18:07

Yeah, nah, it's over with. We at the gate, we already we passed that buck already. That's your baby, though. That's a girl, though. So, like, no matter how bad she was out here on the streets, you ain't gonna you gonna be more lenient to her because that's a girl, man. So that's that's your that's your daughter.

SPEAKER_01 18:23

No, I'm not gonna be no, I'm not gonna be more lean. See, you would see you, you you living underneath a false guide's in my hook, bro. Because how you would because like I said, leading up to this, I can see if you got one of the daughters like how you got. They prissy, they Islamic, they follow Islamic structure. If something like this happened, then cool. But like I said, you know your daughter going all the way up to this age. She didn't just start fighting bitches and jumping bitches in the street or probably getting high. I don't know she gets hot, but I can only assume from all this ghetto shit that's going on out, their stomachs out to these days, shit just nasty everywhere. She's a ghetto girl. She ain't got nothing going on like that from structure from so the parents know who they was dealing with before this even happened. That's the only thing I'm saying. All that me, I'm like, hmm, I knew something like this was gonna happen. Nine times her parents are sitting there saying they're not shot. Yeah, I agree. They're not sitting in the career, like, oh my god, not can't show what no, they're not shot. Yeah, that girl out there big cutting up, she ain't just started fighting the other day. That shit, this shit snowballs the flex and get bigger and bigger and bigger until boom, this happens. Nah, nah, we ain't gonna sit up here and try to play place this over here, place nah, but it is what it is. And in order to get to the core of the problem, to dig this route up, you gotta get to the core of it. Oh, that face value. Oh, that's my big man. Fuck all that. I don't be trying to hear none of that, none of that. So, like my son, he in for a rude awakening underneath my guidance. I'm gonna let him be a kid, it's things that I gotta learn that they are children, but it's all this all military shit that I'm giving him. All so when he goes up and he looked back and got his kids and I'm dead and gone, he's gonna be like, Yeah, same thing you do with your dad. You done hated that nigga growing up. But when you look back on it, and then I'm like, damn, you would you tell me about the other day, the other day we would today while we was just arguing in front of the wood ice stand. He's like, Yeah, my mom, my pop told me to get it. But I seen when you hated your motherfucking pop. Nigga, you come around there, get your ass whooped by me while I took your bike and all that, but he was teaching you how to be a man, but now when you're older years, you like, damn, I'm somewhat who I am today because of this man. You understand what I'm saying? That's all I'm saying. Now I'm not saying you can't have a play baby, and you that comes in there, but I think it's supposed to be more firm than anything else dealing with your children. That's it, man. I ain't telling you to go in there wobbling bobbing. No, that's for the cowards out there. No, you know how to discipline your kids. Everybody knows how to do what gets under their kids' skin to make them start doing right. Everybody, especially if you're in their lives, can't tell me you don't.

SPEAKER_02 21:03

Yeah, you know, because you're at the end of the day, when it when it comes to kids, I agree with you with that firm aspect, not too much playing around, not too much joking. Yeah, all that like they're your friends, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:13

Too much of that. They getting it, they hear you on a conversation, and then they answer you asking somebody a question on the phone and they answer, yeah, that is dead. But you got some women on niggas be like, Yeah, that's right, baby. Nah, that ain't right. Yeah, because now this is only gonna snowball into something bigger, and then you and you're giving her you're giving her permission to get in your business when you allow that to go on, you know.

SPEAKER_02 21:35

Because you think about it, like you know, our parents right back in the day, they would if they was getting high smoking weed, or they would send the kids in the other room. Now you see people now, they smoking the weed and blowing in the kids' face. Yeah, all that. Well, I ain't seen nobody do that. Not not like I'm sorry, not literally, but like it could be.

SPEAKER_01 21:53

Yeah, they'd be right there, but they could catch a contact. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 21:56

They are catching contact, kids running around, they're inhaling. Remember how your parents used to be drinking in the back in the room and be like go upstairs, go upstairs.

SPEAKER_01 22:03

Yeah, yeah. Now don't even. Oh, every as time goes on, it's gonna get worse, bro. It's crazy. And then this is nothing that anything in society today shows you in the next five years is gonna be better. No. I'm talking about like realistically speaking. No. Like, you know, we up here talking, we spreading the awareness, but in the next five years from today, do you think it will be a better standing society of Philadelphia than it is today? I would pray. No, I ain't say pray, I say what you think. I mean But you think from what you seeing leading up to these days and all this craziness going on, do you think in the next five years from today it will be better than today?

SPEAKER_02 22:42

I don't I don't if I was to say so, I would, I would say, I would say no because it got worse since we was kids. And it's been getting worse every year. And it got worse since our parents was kids. Just think about it, right? When we was kids, yeah, y'all went to jail when we we was young. You y'all got indicted. But now let's look at the kids from our neighborhood. YBC, look at them. What they down for? It's like the young boys, they they they after, they coming behind us. But that's not just, and then a lot of them, the ones that got killed. You know, but just it just is bad.

SPEAKER_01 23:16

And then it's no the unity is not like the same now. It's not even that. It's that is all that what you're saying, I mean to say that was a misstep. But as you can see, these kids, right? We talk to a lot of these kids on this show, man, from jail, from wherever the incarceration plays. We just had F5 on here the other day. From his conversation, do you think he is remorse? And we just speaking. We're not saying that he isn't or he ain't. Um this is just a thought. Just whatever you think don't mean it's right or wrong. This is what you think. But I'm gonna give you what I think. From his conversation, that 15 minutes we had with him on the phone, he plated out for homicide. So that means he did it. That means, oh, I take the full responsibility, Yana, I did that. So now, do you think something in him is like, yeah, man, I was wrong for doing that, man. Damn, man. Like, I took a life and this and that. No. Or do you think if they let that man go right now today, that he'll still be a menace out there in them streets?

SPEAKER_02 24:13

I think that he would come back right now and be right back in the driver's seat.

SPEAKER_01 24:16

This is this is and this and they ain't just with him. We ain't singling him out. And hopefully, this is what we think. We're not saying he's gonna do this. Just based off his conversation and what he was saying. You in there charged for homicide. You in there like, I gotta have, yeah, I yeah, I don't know yet, but I'm standing on a joint. And I respect that too. I respect that more than anything else. Stand on what you do. Don't put the blame on nobody else. You take ownership for what you did and you you you suck it up. And that's what he did. He's taking full accountability. But in my mind, he's a goddamn fool. You don't have no, because the process of healing ain't starting yet. You just went through one phase by taking accountability. Uh, taking accountability is just one step to redemption. That's it. From my point of view. You have numerous steps to take to be fully like, damn, I'm done with all this. It just don't say, oh yeah, ma'am, you know, I did it, that's it. No, because you can still go out there and do it again and do it again just because you admitted to it. Fuck no. So that ain't, yeah, I mean, it ain't no, it ain't no compassion out here no more. Nah, no. The compassion is going like for humanity. Like the like a motherfucker could ride, and I used to be like this. I don't put the blame. My my my lady had to tell me the other day, like it was a couple months ago. We riding past and we on Broad Street or whatever, and somebody come running up to the car. Can I get some, can I get a dollar? And I roll the window up, get away from my fucking car. But this person out here on his knuckles, I'm telling my own is knuckles, but I know that he probably trying to get high, whatever the case may be. He ain't asking me for $500, $1,000. He has it for a dollar. And my old lady, like, make it give him a, she gave him $10 bill. I'm looking at her like trying to grab the money out of her hand. She like, yo, I really don't even know why I'm with you. You got an evil soul, you got an evil spirit. You gotta change that about you. If you want to gain society, gaining life. And I took her words and I threw them on that shit for like two weeks without even telling me. And now here I am, man. Every tense I get, man, motherfucker asked me for something, man. Here you go, man. Like when I looked at you the other day, you did it. Yeah, I go get you go get you a job. You never know what that person. And I was with you. I was with you. Yeah. Until me, and I'm like, only reason why I said it to him, because he's out there every single day.

SPEAKER_02 26:24

But he's healthy. That's his job. He's healthy, though.

SPEAKER_01 26:26

Yeah, he's an abled man, but you never know what his circumstances is or why he can't. He might be illiterate.

SPEAKER_02 26:31

But no, I didn't give, I'm saying, No, no, not to say that you I'm saying why I did it. Because I didn't said, huh, I'm like, listen, man, today, man, you gotta get it, listen, man, you time you get a job, man. You know, you out here every day. You know what I'm saying? And you healthy, you strong, got the shirt off. You got you got a shirt off, got, you know what I'm saying? Out of six-pack. Like, come on, man. How you out here axing every day? That's it's starting now, it's like sometimes you gotta be like, all right, everybody needs a little help sometime. We're not gonna just gonna keep giving money away every time I see you. And then you and then you see me coming up, you running right to me out of everybody, everybody, everybody else walking past, you running straight to me. Almost got hit by a car. You see him running out almost hit by a car. You because you were the one that be accommodating. That's what I'm saying, but I said, I told him, I said, you gotta come on, man. You gotta listen, enough is enough. Every time you see, even my even when you see my car pull up. Yeah, I I I get you, but I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 27:20

I get you, but I don't, bro. You should, though. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. So you want to keep giving on my I can see if he's asking me for hundred dollar bills. I'm giving this man 50 cents and a dollar. I get it to him. Yeah. If I'm coming through there and I got that shit in the cup hole, bro, a dollar 50 cent. Yeah. Yeah, every motherfucking time. Because you're not seeing him every day, is whenever you go there. But he sees he knows the truck. Like, damn, hey, he's not saying give me 10 hours, five hours. You you you could go in there and give him a quarter.

SPEAKER_02 27:46

You gotta have a right to say not today.

SPEAKER_01 27:47

No, no, you no, no, you're not wrong for that. I'm just saying what I would do. You're not wrong for that. You could be like, yo, man, today you cool, because you didn't give him 90. But me, me as I've I'm looking at my life, man, and looking where I want to go and looking at the stuff I'm going through. And then I'll be like, damn. You never know what my like I said, he's not asking for much. He's like, whatever you can spend, you can put four pennies in his hand. He like, man, thank you, sir, and run off down the street. But for real. Yeah, he might, he might, but I don't know what I'm saying. But I, you know, that's just the way I look at it. You're not wrong, though. You're not wrong at all. I'm just giving an overall subnoxious on this information.

SPEAKER_02 28:22

Okay, another word. But uh, so you got people that sometimes you can be a users, right? But like you say, it's up to your discretion. You know who trying to use you. Him. Him, though, honestly. I see this man every time I come on on uh Using him be asking for 20.

SPEAKER_01 28:44

Give me a hundred, give me a bean. I didn't gave, I didn't gave. I mean, I don't want to say I gave you a few. I understand, but he's not asking for that. All he's saying is you got something. I don't want to keep getting too long in the feet. You know what I'm talking about. Using this when a motherfucker, yo, let me hold uh $5,000 real fast. I need you might do it. Huh? Go ahead. Next week he had like, yo, give me a little $1,500. Now you know who the fuck using you. Not this nigga asking for some quarters, man. This nigga tell up. He got no shoe, one shoe on. Man, can I come on, man? He's not using you. He's not using you, bro. No, I know you ain't, but he's not using you. So what's the boy covered that eat 5,000? That nigga needs to kick, be whopping. Whopping. Yeah, that's what he needs. He's using at an alarming rate. A nigga come to you for $5,000. I'm back at you a week. That's a soft press. You just gave me a pound today, fake. Today is Thursday. I'm back at you next Thursday. Like, yo, bro, remember that $5,000 you gave me. Like, listen, I rented. I just need a quick $1,500. If you don't tell me to get the fuck on and walk home and get it for real, bro. Yeah, but they're using. Well you know. They use, they using. And I turn to their face, you're user. You are a goddamn user. That's it, and that's all. That's it, and that's all. You know who's using you, bro. You know, are yeah, he we're put here to be used, not misused. Everybody, man, woman, cat, dog, cow, horse, whatever you want to call it, is put on this planet to be used, not misused. I hope y'all ain't missed that just now, man. Everybody is put on this planet to be used, man, not misused. And that's just it. I don't care what nobody got to stay. I'm standing on that.

SPEAKER_02 30:21

Yeah, and then at the end of the day, like I was saying before, sometimes people they know their target. Like people know who they can get some money out of. What you mean? People, somebody people people like the users know who they can get money out of. Yep, yeah. Um, I can give go to mom every time, or I got mom today, but I'm not, I'm not gonna ask her again until Friday. People people know who to they have a pattern of of using. So you so you know, it just sometimes people just let themselves be used in the wrong manner. But but why is it that why is it that people, I know we're gonna go over to this topic, why is it that people feel like they can be mad when somebody tells them no? But that guy didn't, he was like, he was like, oh, you know, that's cool. Yeah, he was humble about it.

SPEAKER_01 31:04

All right, thank you, man. Thank you. Have a blessed day. Still. Yeah. Because a motherfucker that gets mad when you tell them no because they think that what you got is theirs.

SPEAKER_02 31:12

And I was a little, I was a little, I was a little, a little, a little, I had a little attitude, but I forget what I had, not an attitude, but I was a little, I think I was, he caught me like, I think I had something going on. And he caught me, I said, Come on, man, you gotta get a job, man. Like, come on, every day, bro, come on. And normally I would be like, huh, I would just give them something, whatever it is.

SPEAKER_01 31:27

But back to your question, though. The people that get mad when you don't give it to them, they they're they think that they are entitled to what you got. If you get mad, bro, I'd have asked you for $20 and you tell me no, and I'll be like, and leave. I'm not mad at you. I don't want to want nothing to happen to you or harm to you or nothing like that. I'm like, damn. Even though I think you might got it, I'll be mad at like, damn this nigga. All right, cool. It's his, I gotta go get mine's. But you know, if a motherfucker is mad at you for not giving them nothing after you done gave them stuff repeatedly, they a person that you should never give nothing to with the rest of your life. Never, and that's just it. And I stand on that, bro. I don't recant that statement or nothing. The first time I tell you no, it's hate, angry, anger, whatever you got in your heart for me. But what about the thousand times I told you yes? Nah, man, get your nut ass on down the road, and that's it.

SPEAKER_02 32:21

But let's get to the, let's get to the so, but not even just this young lady. Um, let's get to the you know the the part about the reality of prison when it sets in. Not because it doesn't always set in when you get to the block or you get to the it sets in normally when you need something, like a commissary or something like that.

SPEAKER_01 32:36

And it still don't set in then. Really? Nah. Nah, it don't really set in. But you mean the reality of what? The reality of what though? When when when you hungry.

SPEAKER_02 32:46

No, no, but the reality of what sets in. The reality of that that you actually messed up. You meant that you like in a bad situation. Yeah, that was.

SPEAKER_01 32:54

That commissary might be like, damn, hold on, I'm hungry. Nah, it don't set in yet, because you can still be arrogant, like, damn all right. That joint set in when you got a lot of time, right? A lot of time, like I had 420 months. And when that 12th, 13th, maturity started getting there, because I was young. Maturity started getting there, and that time started, that dime, that first dime was behind me. I'm like, damn, damn. Now you drop all the he ain't do that, she ain't do that, she ain't answer the phone. What all that goes out the door. Everything becomes full accountability. I'm in here because of me. Damn, I got another 22 left. Damn. You saying all this in your head. You might be walking the track, you might be laying on your bunk and looking out to outer space, and it comes crashing on you like a mountain. And you sitting there like, damn, damn, I done fucked up. I done slid down a razor blade into an algahall river. That's when you become full accountable for your actions, man. That's when it's weighs on you heavy, not the commissary, because you can go a week without commissary like, damn, you you'll be playing blame game. Man, that nigga, they petty, man. They don't send nothing. Man, niggas, man, when I get out there, I can't wait, man, and shine on niggas. It's still you projecting on others. No, it ain't because of them why you ain't got no commissary. It's because of your dumb ass. And that's just it. But you will learn if you got a lot of time. It will come a day when you be like, damn, I did this to myself. And that's just it.

SPEAKER_02 34:26

But people just, the the reality of things is if you're out here breaking the law, living reckless for whatever you're doing, just understand that you know it's an opportunity you may go to jail. And the things that happen when you go to jail, I mean, it's like you miss your family, you need to be away from your mom, your dad, whoever, your kids. You may not get no money on your books. They may send you far away. You know what I mean? Nobody, you know, communication is lost, the phone stops being answered. And it's just a lot of different things. And you know, you you lose a lot of, you lose your time, but you can't get back. So jail is like it's just a crazy situation, man.

SPEAKER_01 35:02

It's a double whammy, bro. Like I told you, like we talked about pre previous. You're not just doing a sentence, you're doing two different sentences. You I want y'all to always keep this in mind, and I had to really dig deep to pull this years ago. If you're sentenced to 10 years in prison and you do that dime and you're free, the time ain't done yet. Why? It's because you got to catch up to society. So you got to spend time learning how to operate a phone, fill out an application, going to an interview. Ain't shit the same how it was last year. So imagine a dime from there. So now you got to sit back and slow, you got to slow your role just to learn this, to catch up with society. But you're free already. You a free incarcerated man until you catch up. Bro, we running in place, bro. And that's me. I'm right now in prison in society. I gotta catch up. I'm I did my sentence time, but now I have incarceration of uh in society. Until I break these chains of impatience, of learning, and going out there and getting it done, I'm not fully free yet. I'm off a parole and all that. I can ha ha ha, key, key, shake a tail feather. Nah, I'm still locked the fuck up. And that's just it, man. Everybody that goes through jail gotta go through this. So don't think because you got sentenced to 10 years, or I'm done, my dime is over with. Ain't too many niggas coming home, motherfucker putting 100,000 in your hand, 200,000, giving you a hell of a start. Ain't too many people getting that coming home. Not saying that don't nobody get it. Because you got some dudes in there that got some money, and they come home to some money. So it ain't gonna be hard for them to catch back up. But for the majority, the mass men that's coming home, women that's coming home to society from the penal system, they're gonna be incarcerated for a certain amount of time until they catch up again in society.

SPEAKER_02 36:53

Well, so that's what I'm saying. So you do 10 years in jail, you gotta come out with maybe another five to ten out here. Exactly. Before you even fully figure it out. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 37:00

I don't even know how to. I just had to learn. We we going to uh uh somewhere other day, another couple months ago, there's some things I'm learning. I didn't know how to do the menu, and I was scared to go in the restaurant with my girls, so I was I had to go do a uh uh a run through first by myself just to go in there because you don't want to be looking stupid, like you walking in there, and and this is a little minute stuff. You going in there, uh you might even reserve a table, you go over to the booth, ask them where you go, or are we going over here, all right? And then you just sit in there looking stupid, or can I get a menu? These are things that dudes coming home from the penitentiary 10, 20 years, that don't know nothing about, man. Nothing. And I know y'all look at it as minute because it's everyday life for everybody that ain't never been to prison, so it's easy. But when you got a nigga that's coming home or a woman that's coming home from doing all that, he's like a baby in a grown man's body, man. I don't care how much big muscles he got, none of that. That shit don't mean nothing if you don't know what the fuck is going on.

SPEAKER_02 37:54

Wow. And then don't not have no support when you get out here. You might go back and do another 10, and then gotta come out and do another five to ten, because now you're gonna be ready to resort back to what you already know.

SPEAKER_01 38:06

Which is bustling and bustling, bamblin' and jamming. Normally the wrong thing. Yeah, nine times the ten is the wrong thing. Yeah. And that's just it. That's that man, it's not no getting around it, man. You you're doing so doing time, man, takes so much from you, man. Not only loved ones or things that you might property that you might have lost. Because you know, a lot of dudes go. When I went to jail, if I didn't have you around, I'd have came home uh uh homeless. You know how many dudes come home homeless? They went to jail, they had a nice little crib, will everything was cool. Go do five, 10 years, come home, nothing, sleeping on somebody's couch or in somebody's basement. That's a hell of a that's a prison right there, bro. That's a prison, that's a mental prison, bro. You sitting in your mom's basement, she telling you, like, babe, you know, you got about another 30 days. You like, they ain't hiring you because you got a like right now. I've been trying to get hired at certain spots, right? Now mind you, if I'd have never caught this violation, I'd have been cool because of so much time I did that certain things don't pop up on my record no more when I go to for an interview or whatever. They can't see it. I done did it'd been over 30 years ago. The new violation, gun, that shit fresh. She's like, oh yeah, you got a uh a gun charge right here. Oh, we're gonna have to move on. Uh, but you was a good candidate. But we wish you luck in your next adventures of trying to find employment, but we can't take that here. And that's crazy. This is numerous times, but this set me back a whole nother course. A whole nother course. Me being cool, thinking it's cool to carry a gun and all that. I understand that I want to use the excuse. I want to prep my. And it ain't even an excuse, you gotta protect yourself out here. Whether you knocking their ass out, stabbing their ass up, or blowing their ass away. One or the other. You know what I'm saying? So that shit be like, it's crazy, bro. It's crazy, it's crazy. Motherfucker, you do 20 years, man, and they send you home until you go away and figure it out. Let me ask you this though, right?

SPEAKER_02 39:53

Like we all we probably already already answered this already, but the but the the the percentage of people that go back to jail after coming home from serving extensive sentences, it's like about like 85%, 90% that goes back. Think about it. You know what I'm saying? It's real high.

SPEAKER_01 40:12

Yeah, do you agree? Yeah, it's real. It's called re recidivism rate. The recidivism rate is very, very, very, very high, man. It's a revolving door. You know them doors that you go out and it'll be spinning, you gotta get in a little booth, but if you don't get out on your little turn, it'll come all the way back around. Yeah, that's what jail is, man.

SPEAKER_02 40:33

Yo, for y'all who got the who got the uh credentials out there, man, or know anybody who got credentials, maybe, you know, it'll be an opportunity for y'all. If y'all really want to help individuals who uh um stay home, y'all can start like uh curriculums for them, like job uh curriculums, things like that, where you can get paid by the state. If you go to these, like these um halfway houses and stuff like that, they're looking for businesses or or nonprofit or organizations to uh you know present themselves as you know, you know, places where the inmates can come and do applications, you know, uh job fare programs, all this different stuff. And they they pay you. Um so it's something that y'all, you know, if y'all want to do it, anybody who has who has an idea want to help like that, that's an opportunity for you. And you can just uh go on to um I think fill fill.gov website and they kind of you know kind of give you the rundown of how to do it. I I gotta find the exact link, but you go to the website, you start a program, you can get paid. And you get maybe a few inmates, a few people coming home and just really want if you really want to help them, it's an opportunity right there. But like like like we were saying, like the best help sometimes comes from you know your friends or your homies when you get out of jail. You come home, sometimes also it can be uh detractive for you too. Because you can be say you come home, your friends is up, got money, they put you in a position, it may not always be beneficial because But it but it is about it's all not to cut you off, bro.

SPEAKER_01 41:56

It's about the position. I'm cool with a motherfucker handing me a little stack of cash. Who wouldn't want that? Go ahead and get that's instant gratification. But if you put me in positions where, though, okay, you got this business over here, okay, you got too many things going on, but you cool. But you can't get over here and manage it, and you say, Listen, I ain't gonna learn how this and then that that's the position you need to put motherfuckers in, not the position of money. Yeah, because now once it's gone, who else he gonna come back to and get some more? Looking at you again for some money.

SPEAKER_02 42:25

No, man, when you got a motherfucker in something, and then it's it ain't gotta be lucrative. So that's your question. No, you're barking upon something whereas though, you know, you may be in a position by the time, you know, maybe some guys come home, or maybe some guys out here who may need some assistance who just came home. What's your method to madness and how you dealing with them? What type of checks you giving out?

SPEAKER_01 42:43

Or what type of what type of uh if I got positions on anything that I'm doing, they can get in. They can get in, they can get in, work their way up. Yeah, I don't, you know, for the minutes just coming home. And if I'm in a good position, yeah, I'm gonna hit your hand because I know what it's like. But it can't keep being that because I got a family to take care of. I you and I, you're not my son, you my brother. You a grown, able body. But what I will do, I'm gonna hit your hand. This gonna hold you. Maybe a couple other homies that'll be right on top of me hitting your hand. And then now I got this going on over here. I got this little piece for you right here. Now you can take it or leave it. But best believe, if you leave it, yeah, I know what the fuck you saying and know what I'm saying. You will not get this again. That's just it. That's the way of life. That's just the way of life, bro. That's the way of life. That's it.

SPEAKER_02 43:29

Do you think that people in jail become uh they lose their uh I don't want to say hustle, but they they lose their drive to come out here and make something happen because they've been in jail and people just send them money all the time.

SPEAKER_01 43:39

He goes, No, because they know what they're coming home to. Mm-mm. That's a that's a do they though?

SPEAKER_02 43:44

Because times change. You said times change.

SPEAKER_01 43:46

Yeah, but you still you it's still gonna be harder for you to do it, but they don't lose their drive. Think about it though. You when you went to jail, people were selling coke at an alarm. Yes, yes, they were. Because they're not doing it. We came out, they weren't selling it no more. The question was do they lose their drive? No. Okay. A man that does a lot of time. He's trying to get, he's in there thinking about everything he can do to especially, especially if he did a lot of time. He ain't thinking about going to break no law right away. What can I do when I get out there? He ain't sitting there thinking, damn, my homies and them up, they're gonna take care of me. No. When I was talking to you in that jail, and me and you was talking about with the ID builders, I'm in there like, damn, if I can get 10 clients and this, the offer, not your money. I'm getting 10 clients from now. I can make me some money. I call you everything like feet. If I got 15 clients in that joint, what do I what do I get? And you'll be like, oh, you might be breaking this down. I'm you serious? I don't even need I don't even need 20. Bye because I'm motivated on something. Not because uh you say, yo, bro, I got $20,000 cash. Or that's cool. Give me that. I need that. But after that, then what? I'm gonna spend it. I'm gonna spend it. But you take me to a well where the whole goddamn well, it don't never run dry. I can keep dipping my bucket every day. That's better than anything in life, bro.

SPEAKER_02 44:52

Consistent.

SPEAKER_01 44:53

Yeah, I can see if I put you in something and ain't nothing going on there, and I'm seeing ain't nothing going on. I was already ready to step away, but I gave it to you. Just to, you mean, you know, because sometimes you have things that like this, too. We ain't gonna forget about that. What is called? Uh, what's the word I'm looking for? Not pet peeve, but uh, I forgot the word I'm looking for, but just something to throw you a bone, huh man? You motherfucker might think is lucrative or can be lucrative and it and it don't go that way. Then it don't go that way, but I'm still there to help out. I see. I'm watching you try to do what you gotta do. You see what a person is doing. You see, all right, then he's trying that joint. Then he did, then that joint felt, all right, cool. Well, you need to because I see you trying to lift this up. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, appease, appease, that's the word I was looking for. Appease a motherfucker by, yo, I got this for you, go ahead. And you know, and that that's what's what a lot of people do too.

SPEAKER_02 45:43

Now let's let's go to the young to the young boys. Like these young boys is is kids. Right. They k they really kids, and then they're they're in jail. Their mentalities, their mentalities are a little, are actually a lot worse than ours was at their age, back, you know, 20 years ago. We said it. That's a part of it being bad. Because the young boys now a lot of times they don't have any uh like the remorse ain't there or the the thinking aspect don't always be there all the time. Like they they're they're just moving off of just I don't know what they're moving off. Well they just it's like there's no thinking pattern, it's just like they know how to buy a gun and get a gun and do whatever, then it's just they don't really it ain't even buying a gun.

SPEAKER_01 46:28

You see what the young boy just said up here? I came home, man. I asked. Or get a gun. The homies got guns on deck. If they ain't got nothing else, they got guns. I don't know how, but they got them.

SPEAKER_02 46:41

Yeah, but I'm saying that the mentality of them, like you said it, you said it the other day. They went to jail, the indictment was hit, the indictment hit, and it was no money on it. It was no money involved. Yeah. Just guns, murder, violence. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. They're not expressing that that they know how to go out and make money. No, they're not known. Or not showing that.

SPEAKER_01 47:06

The older gentlemen in front of them. A lot of them ain't got no, you, yo, you go out here in these hoods, man. You go on a class trip, man. A man, you'll be the only man on a bus with 55 women with their kids, man. Like if you, like, like me included, me included, might not be on that bus. But if you actually like implement yourself, go to a graduation or something like that, you don't, it's it's majority women in there with their kids, man. You right? You need the man around to show the how to get this money. Not to say women can't show how to get this money, but you need that. Man, you need they don't have no guidance, bro. They look, the nigga was 15 years old, shot nine times at 15. Come on, man. Like, there's only so much a woman can do. You know what I'm saying? So they need guidance, man. They need to learn how to 15 years old. You're supposed to be selling water ices or something, little waters or something like that, getting into the hustling mind frame. Yeah. When we was 15, 14, we was pumping gas and walking from the supermarket, but I know I was anyway. Yeah, bagging, bagging group. Yeah, yeah, bagging groceries. So, but we had that from our old heads and shops over the floor. That's shit. You don't see no, well, I see the young boys now still pump gas and all that. You know what I'm saying? But all that, all that died out, man.

SPEAKER_02 48:14

Yeah. It's it yeah, it's not like it used to. But the same young boys see pumping the gas, now the little young boys be having having burners. 12 years old.

SPEAKER_01 48:24

Pumping your gas. Either pump your gas, or I'm gonna take your gas.

SPEAKER_02 48:31

Yeah. I've been pumping his gas. Listen, but the but the young boys is some of them, not all, some of them is trying, man. But the the thing about it is I talked to this young boy at the gas is it was him and his little brother. It was like 10 and 80 or something like that. And he had his, it was, he was older than it was his older brother and younger brother. They're out there hunting pumping gas. And I'm like, yo, this was a school, this was a school day. I said, Why y'all in that school? Uh I just didn't go to school day, man. I need some money. And I made me think about what's going on in this kid's household.

SPEAKER_01 49:04

What is he going through? Discomfort at an alarming rate. That man probably ain't ate since yesterday afternoon. And it was cold outside. Yeah. Yeah. If he just think about it, if he had some money, you think he'd be out there? Under no circumstances. He's going out there trying to get something, man. The household is crumbled. I'm living with a foster family. My mom used to go get drunk. I love her to jacket.

SPEAKER_02 49:27

And he had like a little a little jacket on. I'm like, dang. I'm like, I'm wondering, like, you know, what's going on at your house, young? What's going on? I wanted to ask him, like, what's going on, man? Like, I was like, I actually talked to him for like maybe five, ten minutes, but I forget what we talked about. But I know I asked him about his household and what was going on because I see by looking at his appearance, led me to believe that something was or their appearance, something was going on. Something went right. It was a bad situation. Now, how can you, it's just it's just crazy. How can you help a kid like that though? What do you do for a kid that you see?

SPEAKER_01 50:03

You can't adopt every kid, you can't try to see. No, but if you got a position, if you if you was a person that wasn't destitute and you had something going on, see if he wanna work. Young boy, I got some shit going on down here for you. If I ever get to the point to where though I'm doing real good, yes, he had a gas station 10-11, pumping gas, he ready.

SPEAKER_02 50:21

Yes, it's sure more hustle than a lot of kids. You got a grown men, he ain't out here shooting.

SPEAKER_01 50:27

A lot of grown 40, 50-year-old men, cuz. He out here. Well, and he he able bodied. He will, he's 10, 11 years old, is big as shit nowadays. He could say if I owned a 24-hour tire shop, come on. Yeah, you sitting out there making what? You might have made $10 in the last eight hours. Motherfuckers is keeping going, motherfuckers swiping. I don't got no money on me. All right, yeah, come on over here for four hours. My give 150, four hours, man. Help me put these towers on. That's way better than anything you're doing at the gas station. No, I do at the gas. And that's a stepping stone. That ain't nothing for him to stay at.

SPEAKER_02 50:57

No, I do it at the gas station. I make them. If I if I give one of them, it's like, so nah, sometimes it'd be like three, four, five. Yeah. I'll be like yo, everybody come together, get all together, right? And I give him some money. I'd like, oh y'all break that down. Everybody get something to not. Don't just because sometimes the bullshit. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 51:11

You got you know how it is. I'm gonna tuck this because the the same nigga who you call over and did that to him earlier. You got to be fair. They out there playing the vicious game. They probably is like, dang, he made me bring this same nigga and got me earlier. They gave him a big wild and he tucked it. No, uh-uh. Whoever got me first, I'm treating everybody fair. Now, if I'm what I'm gonna do is ain't bringing it, or if I gave you a dub, I might give you five, five, five.

SPEAKER_02 51:32

We'd have thought about that back in the day. We was kids. Well, yeah, that was cool. If you tuck a, I'm saying if you tuck a uh a lump sum of cash, yeah, but we weren't doing that.

SPEAKER_01 51:39

We had different types of hearts, yeah. Yeah, I mean, we it not to say it wasn't backdoor and shit back then, but not like how it is now. Not like how it is now. Us and our guys that we grew up with, man, not to brag or say ye we we a unit of crime. No, we had real live camaraderie. And we still are argue as grown men, have disagreements and dislikes, and some of us is selfish and stingy and all that, but I still love them to death. And that's just it, man.

SPEAKER_02 52:05

We might have to see each other for a couple days, but we're gonna do it. Yeah, yeah, that's it. It's all love. You know, because that's you know, that's the guys that knew each other for so long. But people, we have to really pay attention to our kids, man. But the other thing is people should pay attention to themselves, man. Because you affecting your children. You don't the parents are the reason why that kid was out there at that gas station, man. No other reason they was out there with but was because of their parents. That's it. Something wasn't right. He was trying to get something for himself. And a lot of times the kids in the prison is because something's going on with their parents.

SPEAKER_01 52:41

Right. It's just that you um just that the background, the household ain't intact.

SPEAKER_02 52:46

Let me ask you a question. Do you think that if two parents is beefing, right? Say they separated, but they're beefing. And they can't find a common ground or find an ability to talk and and iron things out or do things upon what's correct. The kids, the g the kids ready to round the door from that.

SPEAKER_01 53:09

Well, I don't know, because I ain't never been in that type of situation where two parents is beefing. I ain't I ain't been around my family. I I don't know how that goes right there. I just know if your mom and dad, they're getting high, that shit gonna get bad for you. Bad. Other than that, this I ain't have a household where my mom was with my dad, and they've always constantly argued, and I can't tell you how that goes for them type of individuals. And I'm quite sure it's a lot of people that go through that, and I'm not saying that it ain't traumatizing to them. I just don't know how it goes. I had to sit down with somebody that been underneath that type of tutelage and go from there.

SPEAKER_02 53:42

Shout out to Jupop uh 215. Appreciate you for becoming a member. Thank you. Um asked your question. If somebody uh if somebody um a parent is like your mom is a stripper, right? She coming home bringing you money, you know what I'm saying? At what age would you be will a kid become uncomfortable with that? Like knowing your mama.

SPEAKER_01 54:08

Like, I don't know if you came up to if you came up to it, the comfortable the if you was un because at a young age you be uncomfortable. I used to walk down the street. My mom, my mom, you before I realized she was getting high and tricking and shit. My mom was black, dark skinned, beautiful skinned, big old ass. And I used to walk behind her at five, four years old, and my mom bowl legged like shit. She'd come through. They Sarah, and I'm five, four. I'm walking behind her, walk behind her ass because I know all the winos over here looking. And I turn around, mmm, fuck out of here. So so you're saying at what age, at what age is the uncomfortability come at any age. But if you're growing up to it, four or five, and I'm now starting to see how mom giving me money. I got fresh sneaks. Now I'm 10, 12, and I'm still fresh. Momster. It's not, it's gonna be until point if something do somebody do something to my mom uh uh uh uh uh at her work profession, which she's doing my crushing, but you become comfortable with it, you become real comfortable with it. She's taking care of you off of, and then you become understanding, damn mom had because it's gonna be times mom stripper, she sees you get age, like listen, baby, don't you get a girl like this? Like, we, you know, such and such and such and such, and you know what I mean? But I gotta do what I gotta do. Because when you got a mom like that that's stripping or selling dope, they be more honest with their kids because they're gonna eventually know what it is that the parent is doing. So we ain't gonna sit back and play like, no, hell no, we're gonna get to the root of this shit, bro. The kid, the the comfortability is the uncomfortability is going. I was four or five years old walking behind my mom. Like I'll be walking with her, holding her hand. As soon as I see the niggas winding on the corner and I'm like, Sarah, where you going? I'll go get right behind her. Yeah, I'm blocking all these jeeks today. You ain't saying none of that. And that was five, four years old of being uncomfortable.

SPEAKER_02 55:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 55:48

You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 55:48

So I think I think that a kid would probably um when you become a teenager, you probably like mom, you gotta stop stripping. My mom's stripping, like, because you know, young bulls, you can get inside a strip club and nigga, I seen your mom at a strip club. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 56:04

Oh, what? Because other people talking about it? Yeah, like a lot of kids.

SPEAKER_02 56:06

Yeah, kids in 17 years. Your mom, your mom, your mom is stripper.

SPEAKER_01 56:10

Then that's when you get punched out. Yo, I seen your mom the other day. Yeah, see, but but see, you must be a punk though, if he's telling you that. No, I'm just saying. No, no, no, you must be a punk if he's telling you that, because I know niggas that got crazy moms growing up that you wouldn't say nothing to him about his mom. Yeah, I agree. You be like, oh yeah. And he had to fight to get to where he was at because of how his mom is. I agree. We got friends. I didn't come up to you and tell you about your mom back. I respected you. Then when we I've been with you when your mom was out there, I'd be like, damn, nigga, who's like that? You'd be like, what? And I'll be like, nothing, man. You know what I mean? You know how it goes. You know how it goes. So niggas ain't gonna cross that thread. Now, if you a coward, boy, your mom got that big old fat old ass. What she doing? We should put it like that. We did put like that. Nah, I ain't I ain't never played like that, bro. I ain't never did something like that. Well, sis, that's a sister. We talking about a mom joke. It's a sister, more so. All right, cool. Shit, one of the one of the brothers got babies by your sister. So you know how that shit go. And that was that. We all played.

SPEAKER_02 57:08

No, me, me, me, me and him probably got to do like a four or five rumbles over here.

SPEAKER_01 57:12

Yeah, but it wasn't because of he was with your sister, it might have been something they was arguing about. You like hold up.

SPEAKER_02 57:17

No, I was mad at that. I was mad about him being on my sister. Oh, well, then the boyfriend. I was mad about that. I ain't like none of my sister's boyfriends when I was a kid. I didn't like none of them. I ain't like none of them. White man, none of them. I ain't like none of them, none of them. I couldn't stand them. I mean, if I I I just I couldn't stand them only because of that. Like, I didn't like my sister's like my sister was a was a tomboy. Next thing you know, she had a dress on, telling me she got a boyfriend. I was like, what? Who said that? Say not. She said she got a boy. Oh, you know, she was a tomboy running. We played, remember, she played basketball, run with us. Next thing though, she got a little address on talking about she got a boyfriend. I'm like, what? Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_01 57:57

Yeah, but you know, we don't understand that because we young.

SPEAKER_02 57:59

I'm like, what?

SPEAKER_01 58:00

We young at the time, but when you became 18, 19, you're like, oh shit, I got a dick, and she got a vagina. That's how I go. Long as ain't nobody beating her up. She had a baby by time, but I'm just saying. But still, but still, when you become of a man of understanding, that at the time you you don't want nobody touching her. You looking at her like mom. Well, I don't want nobody messing with you. I don't know. You go you can't be grown like uh Tony Montana in a movie. And no nobody say nothing to my sisterhood. Man, get your nut ass out of here, man. Me and your sister love each other, nigga. Why not me instead of him? You know me. I can't go to certain lips because of you. But you would you want to hit her? Come on, man. You sitting over here acting crazy. We grown ass men. That joint was devastating though to me, man. I don't know. But you was young. You was young going up in there. You was young. Look, you a grown man then. She done had multiple men. Do you be mad when she pulled up? Still a little bit of joke. No, you don't. No, you don't. No, you do not. If it ain't the bad. If it's a bum nigga or something like that, you'd be like, oh, you sure? Now if it's a nigga who you always talk, think a man, you like, okay. All right, yeah. You ain't feeling no type of way, man. I might like no. What do you mean? I might. You sitting here trying to protect your sister pussy and it's older than you. Boy bah. I'm just saying though. Ain't nobody trying to hear that. I'm concerned about my sister. Oh, you could be concerned, but you saying you're gonna feel some type of way. Yeah, I might be like, damn, who is this bull? I gotta Okay, you can inquire. Oh, that's my folks. Why was that? If you go past that, you out of pocket. She lets you know he with me, it's cool. All right, but I still might take a look. Nah, nah, that's giving me just giving me insert vibes. What? Come on, man. How's your sister? Concern. She's telling you it's cool. This with me. All right, cool.

SPEAKER_02 59:34

What the hell am I do? But I'm still a little, I'm still a little concerned about like that's my sister. But you don't even know this man. I don't. That's the pride. That's the point. I got I got annoying.

SPEAKER_01 59:44

Like, yo, listen, what's up, what kind of relationship y'all in? Like, what's going on? What's up with this joint? Yeah, I'm just a cold-blooded man, though, man. I ain't saying that you ain't a man. I'm just my sister bring, I'll be to like, yo, who what's up with him? He working a street nigga? Yeah, yeah, street nigga. You know what comes with that. He might go to jail, get killed. Yeah, exactly. He ain't putting his hands on you, nothing. But I'm not gonna show him that. I ain't saying what they showing him now. I'm talking about her. Yeah, but I'm done with it after that. After we done talk, all right, I'm done with it. Yo, what's up, bro? You play dominoes? Yeah, come on. We ain't no late. No, I play cards. I'll be like, yo, bring him over again, sis. We yeah, that's my guy from here on out. I ain't I'm a man. Everybody gotta walk their own life.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:18

I'm still a little like a little jealous a little bit. Not jealous, I'm still like I say overprotective, I guess. About my sister, like I still, my sister, I still be like a little like, I don't like just for them to just be dealing with anybody. Like, ain't like I'm just all right. She comes around with a new dude. I'm like, oh, okay, whatever. He here. I ain't really like that. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 1:00:38

Dark skin beauty, I hate what you're saying, right? But it comes to a certain age, man. You gotta let that shit go. But you think your sister gonna be a virgin forever? I ain't saying no, no, I'm talking to Dark Skin Beauty. She just made a comment and said, Oh, well, she said, nah, black brothers are overprotective to their sisters. Whether they're older or younger, but I but but back, bro, you're gonna end up getting knocked out. A black brother and his sister older than him. He's 40, she's 43. You, yo, what's up with this nigga? Me, I'm a gangster. What bro was talking about? What do you mean with such? And you might be still be looking like cuz, if you want to talk to me, don't talk to my woman. This is my woman. I know this is your sister, but come here. That caused you getting knocked out. That's just it. She grown. Leave that shit. He ain't hitting her, he ain't putting her in a bad situation. That's when you get involved. But you can't keep no climpes on her vagina. That's hers. I ain't she's a grown woman. She's not a mite.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:28

Why you don't want him with her? I'm saying, I ain't saying I ain't want to want him with her. I'm just saying I don't know him. So automatically, my my aunt's hand, like, what's up with him? Like, who is he? Like, how you meet this boy? Where is he, where is he from? You know what I'm saying? Like, I ain't just sitting there back, like, yeah, like, hey, everything is all all cool, and yeah, you got a new, you got a new dude. Okay, whatever. Like, nah. Who is he? What's what's up with him? Where you from? How you meet him? What is he into?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:51

Yeah, but after that, it got to be over.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:53

Nah, I ain't over. I might give you a call later, like, yo, so what you were saying earlier about my mom.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:57

I'll be like, yo, pull up, cuz. Matter of fact, where you at? Because we need to talk about this face to face. This this is not a phone conversation. Yeah, that's it. Because now, because I don't know what you want. What you would you where you getting at, cuz? I'm just saying I'm not sure. Like, no, so so come see me where you can get to know me. All right, that's cool. Let's go out. Let's go have a give me a couple shots or whatever. You don't do that. All right, come on. Let me holla at you. And when you leave me that day, you're gonna go see her and be like, that's the man for you. I like him. That's what's gonna happen when you meet me. Yeah, you're gonna understand the day. Yeah, I just wanna know.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:29

But what if my sister's been with somebody forever? My sister be, she be she be in there beating the hell out of this, this, this, this guy. I feel sorry for this guy, man. One of my sisters be in here, like I'm talking about like she be in there beating this guy down, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:42

But what makes a good man for you? What if this man is down on his luck? He just came home. And then the bow help. Just came home, he ain't really got shit. She's helping him out. You see that he got her car and shit. He going interviews. That's a red flag, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:54

But this man, depending on how long he's doing it.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:56

As far as I'm gonna go. Okay, okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:58

If it's like six months go past, he still got her will. Like, come on, bro.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:01

Yeah, okay, okay. I agree with that. I agree with that.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:03

I agree with that. Like, yo, you still got her car. Yeah. Yeah. Like, you ain't, you couldn't get a job yet. Like, you know what I'm saying? You, you, you, you got her car, you, you know, you in her crib, she calling me the ball money for rent and all that. Like, you know what I mean? Now, now we got a situation. Like, what's going on with this boy? Like, automatic, and sometimes she might just be in love with him. Yeah, you may in love or make you make the wrong decisions. And then you got, but you gotta be careful as a brother or a a sibling, whatever, you gotta be careful because you can't go through it with this man because she still might be with him the next day. Yeah. I can give y'all a story about that before.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:40

I'd have knocked him out or something. Well, he knocked you out. You always remember you gotta bring ass to get ass. Don't go in that joint thinking you're gonna just knock him out. You're gonna go in there and be in for a rude awakening, and then everybody's gonna be mad. I'm like, Feet, why you run up there? I thought I had him. I just woke up though. All right, cool. At least you ain't tired no more. Yeah, all that. Okay, don't go in that motherfucker thinking that it's gonna be your way. You said you gotta be gotta be able to uh to accept it. Yeah, you got to come with it. Now you you ask yo, the cook-ups and all that at the family phone, like yo, sis. Uh may man coming to now you think a lot more humble. No, if he's coming, you might not even want to, you might not even want to be there. See, you talking about why you ain't coming because you said, Yeah, you man, I'm sitting in the back, like, yeah, I got the burgers. Yeah, but ain't good. I got some beef. Yeah, you want some beef? Or the last burger on the grill, you let him grab that drink. No, I wouldn't, no, yeah, exactly. You ain't eat all day, you've been on the grill. Uh you was waiting for everybody else, and he back up with his second plate. You like, okay, go ahead, man. You like, no, I was saving that for you. Yeah, get your ass out of here. Now you a sucker.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:44

We gotta fight every time, bad, like till I get a win. Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:49

Where you at, dark skin beauty? What country you in? What island you in? Where you at? You talk about you out here in Burner. These were 18.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:55

What'd I say? That was a night on duty. I say, man. Let me know what I said. But no, like, these are things that go on, but. But he right. What?

SPEAKER_01 1:05:04

Little uh uh uh uh the boy Little. He said, but if he got her car, he said, but he if he got her car and is taking care of it, like changing oil brakes, etc., I'm good with it. But if he a bum nigga, not putting gas, yeah, exactly. Like, say if he got our car for six months, but he's still trying to make because six months ain't enough time for a nigga to get a car unless he's selling dope. You think he you think he you back in the day? I guess I guess it depends on what he like like he might be trying to get all types of and then he's an older man.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:32

If he's hustling or something, like he hustling.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:34

Yeah, if he's hustling and all that, yeah. But if he comes home and he parked that away, he's working at Home Depot or something, or one of these joints, you expect him to have a car in six months. If he had a car, okay, cool. I'm saying if he didn't, but but like he said but like he's but like he said, he gets be you you might pull up one day, he out front with somebody putting brand new brakes, like yeah, sis needed some breaks. He done paid for them joints. Keep a gas tank full. Okay, yeah. Uh see, that's what I did that before. I did that before.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:57

Well, you probably didn't, but I can't I can't really argue with that. I mean, I believe. The situation where it's I'm trying to think.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:01

Yeah, but when I first came home, when I had my wife car and I was doing all around, and my ex-wife, and uh, but I made sure that I maintained that joint oil change, brakes, gas she ain't never worried about no gas. I ain't never getting her way when she but you know how a woman is, they go in the house. Once you got an old lady and you done took her off the market, they don't be outside no more. The men more so be outside. We outside working, trying to figure it out, stopped at the work, talked to a couple homies, went up here, then we went in. A woman to get off work and go straight in the house, bro.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:28

Make sure you question though. Let's go back to the altercation, right? See your sister see you get knocked out by her uh or get beat up by her boyfriend.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:36

There's nothing you can do ever again. Now she's scared for not scared, but my sister probably had jumped in and fight with me. Oh, yeah, ain't no problem about it. She would. Yeah, I don't know. If you fight with and lose, I don't know uh what her love for ball is. Now if she just met him and all that, yeah. But if she head over hills for him, I don't know, bro. Then she gonna be looking at you. Why you coming over here? See, you wouldn't never been asleep if you wouldn't have kept. I told you he's cool. Now you waking up talking about you was right. Nah, bro, mother.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:05

Both my sisters probably gonna go probably gonna go rock with me, I think. Well, they probably do. Because they can always probably be like, we can fe can fix that over there. We're gonna rumble. They probably somebody might get shot, something, anything. Sisters probably I would listen, man. I'm betting a thousand percent that they would rock with me a hundred percent.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:22

KD Niddy, man. Shout out K D Niddy. He said, I need that core for more than six months. It won't feek. You pointing at you somebody. Hey Nitty, man, chill out, cool out, man. Yeah, you might you might need eight, a little eight ball. You know what I mean? But I'm gonna maintain this drone though. Yeah. See, Feek just got a different background, a different perspective.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:49

I would talk to her and make sure that he like you know what's going on. Like before I, you know, before I even uh say anything, but I will uh I'll probably just talk to her and make sure that she's cool. If she's cool and now he's working, he don't gotta do, and so so forth, so on. I'll be like, all right. But you know you gotta you gotta be protective. You gotta you gotta really pay attention to your family members, your sisters, and all that. You know what I mean? Because but you also gotta be real careful. You can't like we all been called whenever we're situations like nieces and sisters or you know, aunts as well, who may have been in the been abused or something happened, and then you ready to run out there and do something crazy. Yeah, but they say, hold, hold up.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:30

Yeah, she's gonna be right back with this nigga. One of my best friends, the man that died, which is a best friend of yours, too. You know him, Jamil. Peace be upon his soul. His sister, Bobia, living up 60th and 60th, what? Callahoom, 60th market at the time. This what 9394? Nah. Yeah, it was 99. Yeah, 94. 94. Kia got a boyfriend named Rob. I'll never forget this. Rob kicked her ass, and Kia can beat men. She can beat men. Okay. Kia come down the way, lips on super swole. Them joints is puffy like butt cheeks instead of lip cheeks. So I'm like, damn, what the hell? Yeah, Rob put his hands on me. I mean, you know, we young, we got a little couple little guns and all that. We like, he did what? Man, we rolled around all night till the sun came up, man. Like when we went to her crib, took her home, she let us hold her car. She had a diplomat. Remember them diplomats? She had a gold diplomat. Like detective cars. We riding around all night. When we left the crib, it's in shambles, like cups broken, plates broken. You could tell it was a hurricane that swept through this joint. We leave out about 12 o'clock. We ain't come back till about 6:30, 7 o'clock in the morning. The sun is up. We sitting in the living room. Man, fuck is this nigga at, man? Blow his head off. He gets up to go back there to tell her to get up for work. We can't find him. They both in the bed, asshole naked. Both in the bed, asshole naked. Shout out to Rob. And then he's waking up looking at us, knowing we're looking for him. What's up? I'm not. Rob was kind of tall, too. Yeah, Rob was, yeah, he he probably put one of us out. That's why we bought them little 22s to see with us. He's still alive. I don't know. I don't I don't know. No, Rob got a got um got a um G dog took one time and took my walk. Rob was a good man though. Good man, though. He loved, he loved her. He said they had their little because she used to still off on him that made him go crazy. But that just to show you you can't go running straight into a situation, your sister or your aunt or because like you said, you do it, she right back with the man. You go do why you do that? Why you shoot him? Why are you going to jail, bitch? You like, well, why you call me? You just they just mad and emotional at the time. Yeah, they love this nigga to death though. Everybody had their fights, but it's about how to fight go.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:45

Yeah. If she if she losing, if he cheated on her and she hit him and he he hit her back, it's over. She coming to get you, and then she's still gonna be mad because she she really wants to kill him herself. You know what I'm saying? So if you do it, you in trouble. But you know, the thing about it is this though, we can't really intervene all the time. You got four or five kids, you know what I'm saying? They got multiple kids together and stuff like that. You just gotta be like, oh man, I gotta let that thing go because if I do something to him or harm him, then the kids ain't gonna have a father and I might be in jail. And if I fight him or or or beat him up or something like that, she's gonna be right back with him. She's gonna open the door, let him back in. Everything. Shout out to uh Chase Mauls. I'm sorry, Chase Smalls 55 for becoming a member. Appreciate you, man. Thank you so much, man. Um so yeah, it's like you know, she's gonna be right back right back with him. You know what I mean? We can't really do too much now. Let's let's talk about the other the flip side. The man, you got you got a girl, man, got a girl or wife, and the girl wife is is is is uh abusing the brother, the sisters be ready to go. Is it is it different as far as you being right back with your girl after she hits you and all that fight you?

SPEAKER_01 1:12:09

Same way. You see, I get beat up. You asked that just on purpose, I get beat up. I don't promote hitting women or nothing, but I could take a lot of lot of pain. And when I say that, meaning like I could take a lot of discomfort, I could take you talking damn to me, I could take you hitting me another from the one another woman. And I get that a lot. I might, you know, I might do some bonehead shit to her, and I might got popped. Damn, what you do that for? But is out of one of them pops, if she gave me 10, like the eighth one would be a popping and it'll chill. So I get back like that, but it won't be no me just catting. But I get beat up by my women. My women know they can beat me up. I'm a big old man. Can't no woman do nothing with me. So you know you got men out there that's like that. You be like, damn, look at all them. Then everybody done jumped in because they really think he's other sisters. Yeah, kidding. But if he turns around and whop one of y'all ass, y'all gonna see what's going on. But you got some men. I ain't gonna lie, I might like that a little bit. What? I might think I'm loved if my woman hit me. Really? Yeah, like I like that. My woman, I get my woman mad to the point and she chasing me and grabbing me, my running, and she trying to hit me in the head. I'll be like, girl, crazy as shit. Girl, you crazy. She might have caught me like, yo, yo, yo, chill. And like I go back underneath again or something like that. But I might like it a little bit. Oh, yeah. And it might be a little toxic, but it's the way my upbringing, but shit. My baby gonna love me. She beating like I seen a real. And a girl had him gripped up in a corner or something, and say, if you see me like this, don't do nothing. I want to be here. That's me. He was like this, she was choking him. Nigga, you know, I'm like this. All right, baby. All right, you know what I mean. And girl, women like when they get business with y'all, biggest struggle. She knows in her mind that this nigga will swallow me. But I'm not gonna do it. Like, I feel good. My woman get mad and be like, Stop playing. I'll be like, all right, all right, all right. Yeah, I like I like that. You like the type of you like that? Yeah, yeah. Like you like the uh I went to Glenn Mills, that's a juvenile facility, and they use in there, in that juvenile facility, they use touch for attention. It ain't no stop that, don't do that no more. It'd be some. And you'd be like, yo, yes, no, and excuse me. Yeah, it's touch for attention.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:18

Yeah, because like because look then on the other side, if you even like pushed your wife back, like push her back or something, like back up, you put you put your hands on me. You hit me.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:27

You can't you can't really get away with that. Yeah, you can't, but if you got one of them, that that's a that's a she's but she she one of them cows. I ain't been around that that woman, a woman right there, ain't to be trusted. But she knows that she's constantly hitting, like my chick. If I popped her, she she cool with it. Because she knows how many pops she done gave me. She knows one coming one day. You don't know overhand, nothing like that. No, not nothing like that. It ain't nothing crazy. That'll be like, you hit me. No, I'm not doing none of that. I might grab her and pull like I I'm strong. I could get if we did it, I grab her by a shirt and yank her and throw her. And if she'll slide and hit, I'll be laughing the whole time while she and that'll make her infuriated. I could infuriate, I can throw her from here to there with a shove. If I get a good grip, get your ass over there. She'll crash over the table and everything. Any woman. That's why I told you I beat Rhonda Rousey in them up. They're not doing nothing. I'm I got brute force, brute force. I'm a mule underneath the skin. Yeah, yeah, okay. The goat and all that.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:27

Yeah, all that. I'm trying to think. Yeah, I don't think you, I don't know. But it'd probably be a good fight though with them though.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:34

Hey, the boy Lil, the uh the uh the boy Lil. No, I ain't getting none of that lawsuit, man. I got out of Glen, I ran. I ran from Glen Mills in what 96? But I I tried to look it up. I know all that they was beating me. I ain't never got touched to like touch the or all the gay shit they talk about going on there, but they was abusing me. They used to whoop my ass. Listen, Glen Mills, the first 60 days you there, you get your first home pass because you was from Philly. But Glen Mills is like a federal juvenile facility because they got kids from all over the country. They got kids from Philadelphia, New York, Pittsburgh, California, Detroit. So everybody's in this facility, Glenn Mills. Um, and when I first got my home pass, I got my home pass like six months after I was there. I only had like a 12-month sentence. But it Philly guys get their home pass after two months, but I was breaking them. I wasn't listening to rules, so I had to keep getting disciplined, keep getting beat up on. You know what I'm saying? I was dirty then. I wasn't washing up. So they give me my very own hygiene action plan. So uh like every hour I had to take the folder to a uh a staff member and he'll be like, he'll check it, and he'd be like, raise your underarms. I'll raise my joints and he'll smell them. And he'd be like, Are you cool right now? So I had to carry this for like I was just out of control growing up. So when six months came, they was like, you know what? We're gonna let Jackson go home this time, man, for a home pass. I went on that home pass and they can kiss my goddamn ass. I ain't never went back. Yeah, but I ain't never uh got the lawsuit. I I don't know how to file for it. I wish I couldn't for because they was kicking me to sleep. I ain't go home to six months.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:10

There's so many kids or so many people on that lawsuit that the lawyers are gonna make more money than the actual people that was uh, you know, traumatized. That's the way it's set up. The lawyers create these actual, you know, I forget what they call. It's like uh these massive lawsuits. And the lawyers get their money off the top, their fee off the top, and then every, and then everybody else break everything else down. And if it could be a hundred thousand people on there to break down a couple million dollars, and this, and it's like, how much what are they getting?

SPEAKER_01 1:17:41

What? It's probably what? Peanuts, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:44

Walk away with 3,000.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:45

Ain't nobody walking away with no trade ball Jamal.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:48

It could be so many people on that on that lawsuit, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:50

It's probably it probably is. It's thousands of kids, man. That's what I'm saying. It'd be thousands of kids that be through there. The lawyer, the lawyers. So would they only give them or this or this is the money that y'all got to break down for that self?

SPEAKER_02 1:18:00

The lawyer can be getting, you know, anywhere from 35 up to 35%. It depends on because the lawyers can create everybody know it's it'd be it'd be scamming. The lawyers be creating actual lawsuit based off of you know, people that they interview and they get a lawsuit, and they create a lawsuit, and they file a lawsuit, but then they get everybody to try to join in lawsuit, and and the lawyers get maybe 30-35% from the rip, and everybody else break down to 65%. And it could be, I don't know how many people in them cases how it'd be. So it's better to sue them individually a lot of times. Don't always run to those uh Oh, the mass drones right there, like that. Okay, get you a lawyer, get you a lawyer and sue by yourself. They they may have money or the state, the state may have to pay for that. You know what I'm saying? The state got the money, so they definitely got the money. Yeah, man. So yeah, man, they having a party up in this joint somewhere. I don't know what's going on. Upstairs. But you know, the thing about it is this though, at the end of the day, you know, like these facilities, they're supposed to help, but like you said, everybody that works in these facilities is not always trying to help all the time. They there just to work. Get my do my little eight hours and get out of it. You ever met a met a guard, a staff member up there that that really cared?

SPEAKER_01 1:19:11

Yeah. There's a couple of them that did care. It's a couple of them, especially women. It's a bunch of women that care too. Older women. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:20

Because they like do you they like you?

SPEAKER_01 1:19:21

They nurture you, exactly. They take a liking to you and be like, boy, and they done passed out snacks, but I'm gonna take this little don't be telling them about I get, yeah, it's a bunch of them in there that care.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:29

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:29

Yeah. More so than the men. The men be more stern. I say it's a couple of them care, but they not showing the compassion like how the women is. Men get you to decide by listen, man, I see something in you, man. Tighten up, man, and you can see that he care. Okay. But if I'm going to get back in the group now, but you know what I'm saying? So it'd be like a different type of handling. I'd say it's the same thing up state or in the feds. Oh, well, you well, we'll see. See, with that is different because these is correctional officers and they got a protocol they gotta follow or how to not to interact with you. To whereas though you think that you see in the juvenile facilities, they gotta interact with you like they brothers or sisters or peers of yours. Like you know, I mean, it's a different type of training that they give them two different entities. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, so like juvenile be like more so a staff, like big brothers in there. So they're showing you a little bit more love. Whereas though the penal system, these is hardcore guards, oh, get in the cell, shower time, you're done eating child, get back to the unit, all that type of drill sergeant, militant type shit. So it'd be different. But I'm not saying it ain't no go because it's some thorough guards and then like, damn, and y'all coming back in here, back, back. And you would see how they conduct themselves as far as and they lean, they ain't running around trying to search cells all day long. They ain't running around, smelling the air. Somebody smoking a cigarette, lock down. They ain't doing all that shit. They know they let niggas the men do their time.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:51

I remember we uh came through CFCF and we was in it, we was coming through the um, now they bring you, what's that? Uh R D. Uh when they bring you through the room to room to room. Yeah, RD. We was in there and uh in the we was we was in the cell, and the boy looking at you like he saw you, like, damn, you back. Come on, man. Yeah, good man. Good man. He said, I'm gonna get you upstairs right now, I'm gonna get you upstairs. I was like, so I said, I'm about to make bells, so you ain't even gotta, you know, I know you probably had a detainer. But he was like, um, all right, I'm gonna take you upstairs. You just sit, you just sit tight because you're about to get bailed out. They got you upstairs fast because they saw you just you just left.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:26

I just left. Yeah, after doing three and a half years.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:30

But open the phone lines, y'all. 215-316-4492. That's 215-316-4492. Don't forget July 18th at World Uh Live Cafe. It's gonna be the first Tell Smith Joe live event. So when will the tickets be available for people to purchase? Uh, we just was on the phone with them with a uh, we had a little issue, but they they saying tomorrow for sure.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:54

Okay, and is there an age limit for a lot of people who say they want to bring their kids?

SPEAKER_02 1:21:59

I gotta I still gotta double check that. I didn't double check it. I'm I apologize. So I'll know by tomorrow. Sure. Gotta remind me to do that. I do it when we when we uh get out in the car and I call my guy and see. I know because the kids.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:12

Uh James, James, we don't have the link yet tomorrow. Tomorrow we want to make sure everything is straight where it don't be no problems, James Laflame. It'll be it'll be like we we ain't having an event to the 18th. It's not even the first yet.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:23

What do you think about Boots and uh this boy Zayas on stage? I don't know nothing about boxing.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:27

I don't know nothing about boxing. See, how you trying to do that? I seen Boots said that I seen him make a statement, and I thought he was me. You know, I make statements and might be landish. But Gilly is outlandish? Outlandish. Uh-huh. And Gilly was questioning him. And he was questioning him about all these all these fighters. And he's like, sweet work, easy work, easy. Like he asked him about 10, and then the last one he got. He's like Terrence Crawford. He says super. Now I like his confidence. His confidence is to the atmosphere. But do you what you think of him? And Terrence. Because you like you know Boots personally. You took me to the gym and watched him spar and set up and talked to him now. Oh, yeah, yeah. Boots. Shout out to Boots and then uh I don't think I don't think it's sweet. You don't think it's sweet? Do you think he can beat Terrence Crawford? Do you think he can probably beat him, but you think he can beat him? Yeah. He can win. I'm saying he can win that. No, yes and no. Do you think he can go in there and win that fight?

SPEAKER_02 1:23:20

Anybody can do it, he can do it. Oh, yeah? Yeah, because he's strong. He can skillful switch hitter as far as you know, I guess go left, go southpaw, orthodox, he can do it all. Um I think Boots, he get hit a little bit too much, but I think that if he can fix that. Or if he don't fix that and Crawford puts someone. Do you think Crawford can knock him out? Yeah, if he if he um if boot if Boots don't um if he goes and get hit by Crawford, nah, Crawford is too, is too good. You got you got you got good fighters, great fighters, and you got elite fighters. Boots is a great fighter right now. He's not really elite, he hasn't reached that elite level because he hasn't fought uh back to back to back, like numerous champions and been in big fights. So he hasn't really proven himself to be elite. And he can be elite, but he's a great fighter right now, but he's not really elite. Crawford is elite. Mayweather, elite. These these are elite guys. What about Canelo? Canel, what is he? Canelo? Yeah. Canelo was elite.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:20

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:20

But um two elite fighters met, Crawford and Canelo. They both was elite fighters, but Crawford showed that he was a lot better. And Canelo was a little older, but no, no, they're both older, but I don't want to use the age, then they fought and Crawford showed show show what he can do. Um, but I I like uh I like uh boots to knock this boy's ass out. Knock him out? Yeah. You going to the fight?

SPEAKER_01 1:24:46

You going to? No, I ain't going to that fight. We going there, man. You got invited. Who got invited? We did. Well, you ain't tell me nothing about that.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:52

Like I said, today. Oh, you you got invited. You got invited. They said, yo, bring, they said, bring, bring, bring black, yo. Bring black. He walked me out.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:00

No, who said that boots? Well, I walk out me and him and J'll do that now. I'll be in that joint like this from the city. We going out that joint now. I'll do that. If he wants me to come up there and walk him out, we coming up out that jump.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:13

I gotta call, I gotta see, I gotta see, man. But I don't know if I can make that make that happen, but we could we definitely should go out there and support, support, support boots. I can fight reach out to Everett. Everett is his manager. Shout out to Everett, man. Shout out to all those guys, shout out to uh Bosey.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:26

Shout out to let me ask you this. Was Adrian Bruno elite? Yeah, he was elite. Um they say a four-time world champion. Yeah, he was good.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:35

Was he elite? At that time, he was an elite at 135 pounds. Yeah, 135 pounds. Bruno was elite. Like he was at that time, yeah. But he he fell off. Was he ever elite before? Yeah, at one time you could say he was like elite at 135. But I think uh he just was he just was a great fighter. He was a great, a good fighter, a good fighter. It's just that he had devices, man. Sometimes, like I always say all the time, people people get money sometime, and then the devices take over, man. And right now, I ain't gonna lie, Adrian Broner is uh, what you call right now. He's really um Adrian Broner is actually really, really, really has his uh I don't what are he in the algorithm crazy right now? More than any other boxer.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:20

I want to uh answer a question that uh Raymond Jarrett 6393 as.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:26

He's up the phone 215-316-4492. It ain't ring yet.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:29

Yeah, we ain't put it up yet. We we ain't put it up yet. We put it up now. But he said, hey black, is it safe to say you burnt out? Yeah. With your way of thinking, because I know I am and been in Fort Dicks in the early 2000s. Absolutely correct. I don't think it's burnt out. Yeah, I do. I don't think it's burnt out. It's just a a hard I I deal with a lot of I expect I expect for bad shit to happen all the time. What's they call that? What would they call that for a person that's always looking for the like for because I've been through so much pain in life. So I know how to embrace the bad. So I know how to like counter it before it even happens.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:04

I think my I think you, by knowing you, I think that you always expecting the bad. Yes. The worse out of stuff. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:12

I'll be like, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:13

It's cool to do that something.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:15

Because you know how to brace and prepare for it in case it gets like that. I think that's it. So now I try to trick myself. So when it does happen, something good, I'm like, yes. Because I thought that shit was going. I don't, and I, and sometimes I too. You had to tell me the other day when I come to you, I was just a chick talking about a job you don't be working something, and you like, cause it because it's stuff like that, I embrace for crazy shit in life. So I meet that head on, like, yeah. But I'm not one of the ones that always put it, yo, that ain't gonna happen. But in my mind, I'm saying it. I'm saying it like a mother.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:42

I ain't gonna lie, even my situation that you know about, but whatever. But the date, the thing I'm like, I'm I'm I try kind of did the same thing. I'm I'm leaning up waiting for the the uh the verdict on stuff. And I'm like, my mom's I'm trying to psych myself out and say, man, it ain't gonna it just don't ain't gonna happen. Like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, but that that worked good. Because if it don't, then you'd be like, I know. I had a check. I'm like, why am I doing that? I just like I gotta stop doing that. But that's the method I use. I gotta admit, I did it that one time.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:11

Yeah, see, I do it because the light, you ain't lived the life I live. You've been right there with me living this life. So you you know it by seeing it. But but but actually walking is different. So like our everything, like we, we, everything that good, like like we got everything that could go wrong, go wrong. It definitely like boom. I'm all hype telling your business because I you hoping all the guys out to come home from jail putting this in place. I'm the only one get disapproved for some shit. I'll be like, God damn. I just knew I was the first one out the gate. And then when I think about shit other, that's just one of the things, like other shit in life. I'll be like, yeah, yep, yep, shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:46

Nice guys finish last, man. So I be expecting. But sometimes it might be something that's that's down the line that may be in place for you that you you we don't even see.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:55

You know what I'm saying? Because it was times where I had jobs, right? Turkey band say what you say about the show. Well, we do we got the number up?

SPEAKER_02 1:29:01

215-316-449. This is what I said, the uh the phone line. That the um, you know, like it's been times like look, when uh uh I had a job, right? And I had one for like supervisor positions and stuff like that, and manager positions, I didn't get them. But I didn't get them because it was a different reason for me. It was a different opportunity for me down the line. I might have got the manager position or supervisor position, and I may have not taken an opportunity to bet on myself. So you can get comfortable.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:30

You know what I'm saying? Oh, I want to address this. Uh Rudog. Roodog said, I just want to speak on the conversation with the five. Wish you would have straight told him he was burnt the fuck out for real. Yeah, you can do that, but then that would have just led to an argument. Like, I I've been there in his shoes before, so I know how to handle these type of dudes. I'm not saying I'm an expertise, but I just I walk with these men all my life. And today, still do today. So I know the ex, like he's nowhere near ready to hear that. So all it did was just turn into a back and forth, and then that would have been no good. The phone would have got hung up. Now, unless you I might as well just told him, fuck you, you just a dickhead. You know what I'm saying? So it is what it is. You know, man, give a shout out to the boy, man. The boy Lil, man, thanks for the donation, man. We appreciate that, man. Really appreciate that, man. Y'all supporting, man. Thank you very much, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:24

Yeah, man. So my thing is, oh man, shout out to the boy Lil, man. Shout out to you, bro. Appreciate that, man. Appreciate that, man. But you know, the thing about it is called, right? Yeah, I think that they uh they hung up. They hung up. The thing about it is this though, man. You know, um, when you have situations like people who uh have always always been tested with negative things and things happen to them, they're just being prepared a lot of times just for when something when the positive things happen. Like I always see people who go through so much a lot of times, and then when then when they um get the opportunity, a lot of time, man, you know, they just hit it out of the park, man. Because you've already been tested with everything, all types of disappointment, all types of you know, let all types of letdowns, whatever you want to call them, and then you get an opportunity to do something, especially if it's something that you like to do. And it opens the door for you. You know, I mean everybody can't be in the medical field, everybody can't be in the NBA, everybody can't be NFL players. There are other opportunities, other jobs, other things for you to do that can be, you know, your calling. I agree, Dark Skin Beauty, I agree. But yeah, y'all, phone line's not ringing, nobody wants to call, nobody wanna talk to us today, man. But we love y'all. Don't forget July 18th, tickets and everything should be available really, really soon. We will have a good event, man. We will have some you know, some some some laughter, some smiles, maybe even some cries, but some cries of of joy. You know what I'm saying? Well, you said you said don't nothing bring you bring you joy like a what?

SPEAKER_01 1:32:01

No, I don't say that. That's a this rumor in jail. You said nothing nothing brings you joy, nothing brings you joy like. And again, shout out to all my DC men, but you know y'all got homies that's on crazy shit. And um, I forgot what his name at the time he said, man, don't nothing bring me joy like a big booty boy. And these are the type of sayings that you hear in jail that you become like out here, you be like, yo, no homo, pause. But when you hear the men say that in there, it's something like, damn, okay, I know to stay away from him. And you won't say nothing, you'll just keep on going about your day. And a nigga be whistling or singing like, don't nothing bring me joy like a big booty boy. Oh, dude. Damn, that nigga want some crazy shit over there. I know to stay to the left over here, you over there on the right. So you know how it goes.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:42

Stay free, y'all. Y'all wanna hear these sayings in jail. You know what I mean? What's another saying they got in there, yeah?

SPEAKER_01 1:32:50

Oh man, the why I do Tim when you can tell on a friend. Yeah, I mean, they got all types of sayings in, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:58

So yeah, y'all, we love y'all, man. Thank y'all for the support, man. Just remember also, y'all, um, tell us from the jails, live event, July 18th. July 18th. Tickets will be available soon. We're gonna have a good time. We're gonna flick it up. We're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna laugh, we're gonna smile, we're gonna cry, we're gonna do it all up there. We're gonna, we're, you know what I mean? We're gonna have a good time, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:24

Anything you wanna say before we get up out of here, young? Man, the weekend is coming, man. Everybody, man, keep their heads on right, man. I ain't telling you not to. Well, they say it with the cheeking now. It's the cheeking. Yeah. It's not the weekend, but it's the cheeking, especially during, it's only the cheeking during the summertime. Um man, be mindful, man. Be mindful of the people around you. Be mindful of yourself, man. I ain't telling y'all, man, for those who drink, man, you know, do it in moderation. For those that don't drink, man, stay with your crowd, man. Don't get a lot of people that don't drink and smoke and all that are get mad, but you at a place where they're doing it at. What is you mad for? You should be mad at your goddamn self. You know they over there doing that. So stay over there where you at where where everybody likes to function at. Be mindful, be thinking and be thinking about the next person around you and still have a blast, man. It's easy, it's just that easy, man. They asked for to bring Zaynab up here. Um, no, there's no reason to bring Zaynab up here for what?

SPEAKER_02 1:34:15

She gotta she can talk about what she went through.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:18

I want to bring her daughter up here. That's what I want to talk about. Her daughter is well more intact and got more. Bring both of them up there. No, I'll bring her daughter up here. I'm gonna tell her you said that, man. Well, you can she's gonna probably see it. She's gonna be young me, hollering and hooting, but I want to bring her her daughter's two brothers in jail. She got that, she got that uh that that glizzy. Her daughter has two brothers that's in jail, that's facing life. Hopefully they can beat the case. Two different brothers. Yes. The two brothers are enemies to each other and had a father just came home from doing damn near 30 years in jail. Jay Nab ain't got nothing on that. We get with her on the back block and leave her by that car she got her gun at. I'm gonna tell you said that. But she's gonna see it. She's gonna see it.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:02

All right, okay. She's gonna be calling your phone. But I ain't gonna answer. Yeah. We thank y'all for hitting us up, ma'am, and and uh and chilling with us today, man, and uh being a part of the movement. We love y'all, man. Yo, listen, hold on. What happened, D was 18? What are we talking about, man? You said what? I'm sorry about the glizzy, man. The glizzy like the Glock, man. Not the, you know. Come on, man. Come on, come on, Dark Skin Beauty. But yeah, y'all, um, but I want to give a shout out to you know to the young guys uh behind the um the camera. You got talk taught, you got cotty with the body.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:49

Hey, look, we we got we got uh we got a boxing match between uh between uh one of the young boys, man. One of the young boys knew that he was gonna post yeah, I mean we're gonna post it for uh just the only members only. Yeah. And we're gonna let y'all see it. And this is my nephew. It's between me and him. And I want y'all to tell me who, you know, who won the fight. But you know, it came with lessons for me and him. You know, disagreements at first and then understanding after. You know, um, we got a special treat for y'all, just a quick release. It's probably about a minute, a minute, a minute and 10 seconds. And it's just a boxing match. You will see my nephew and you will see me. We have gloves on, we're protecting ourselves, we're doing it properly. It's not no street shit, and we're in a ring. And you go ahead and be the guest of it, and you you y'all go ahead and give me y'all's results. Uh is that uh tank? What's that?

SPEAKER_02 1:36:38

Tank David. Oh, you was in Baltimore. It was that up there with Coach Calvin Ford. They got in the ring.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:42

Shout out to Coach Calvin Ford, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:44

Yeah, shout out to Coach Calvin, man. Who's up there at B More at the gym? And uh, you know, things go got a little out of hand. We're probably gonna release that, man, for the members on it. You know, it's all love. We all family, man. We all family. It's funny. It's listen, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:00

Yeah, I mean, let me know if y'all want to see that, man. Let me see it. Let me know if y'all want to see that, man. They talk about some quick release is crazy.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:10

He said quick release, live duty. But yeah, y'all, thank y'all for tuning in, man. Thank y'all for being a part of the movement, man. Uh, it's tells from the jails.