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Tales From The Jails Podcast
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What's up, what's up, what's up, everybody? I know what it is. It's Tellsman the Gels. We're here live in Pod Roms USA. TNS Media Group. We're currently on air. Mr. Jackson, you got your hat looking a little crazy like you ready to rob something.
SPEAKER_05Oh man.
SPEAKER_02You know, we here. We're chilling. We we uh just enjoying this Wednesday. It's nice and hot outside. Hump day.
SPEAKER_05That's what they call it.
SPEAKER_02Hump day. Not on duty day.
SPEAKER_05Oh my God.
SPEAKER_02Not on duty day. What's up out there, everybody? What's up, family? What's going on, man? July 18th, World Cafe Live. It's y'all tickets. Tickets are available now. We need everybody to come through to show love and show support. You know what I mean? OG left hand. I don't know what to say, if I should say not on duty to that or not. Turkey Bands, what's up, man? Charles Drummond, 215 Nitro. Everybody that's in there. James the Flames, love 5.Q, Cool13. Nate, the G 3590, John Michael. Yo, yo, yo, what's up, everybody? What's going on? What's up, Mr. Jackson? You was in here working today, man.
SPEAKER_06Um, just a little bit. It felt good to do that, actually. Felt good to come in, man, and get some quality work in him. Because you could work and it'd be nothing. Get some quality work? Yeah. I ain't tired right now. Probably gonna get tired in the middle of this live though. But other than that, yeah, it's been a productive day. Oh, yeah?
SPEAKER_02A productive hump day. Ain't nothing like it. When you come in and you get some work done, you know, you know, you enjoy your day, man. My day started at what four or four in the morning. Oh, yeah? Yeah, and then I, you know, get the youngster, get him out, you know, go to the gym around like five, work out a little bit, you know. So, um, you know, as we as we do, I someone uh put the disclaimer out. They know, tell us from the jails we do not in no way, shape, form, or fashion, you know, glorify prison in any way. We do not, you know, uh subparent and promote people going to prison. Our main objective, once again, is to deter individuals from going to prison and help uh people get the visual the visual the visualization of prison through our podcast and things that we're seeing up here. Excuse me, y'all. We just had some uh some chicken wings and stuff, so you know, you know, we sit back. You ate all the wings, did you eat? How many 30?
SPEAKER_06No, I ate two. Oh, yeah? I had a quick little deuce ball, little deuce ball Jamal. That's it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. They didn't pay us. I was gonna say the name, but they didn't pay us, you know, to promote their uh their their chicken, so I'm not gonna uh even speak about it. But let's get to this, man. Let's get to let's get to the to the uh our our talk today, man. Um as we know, we got two two uh rappers, two rappers that have uh that we know right now that have uh high profile cases. Uh both of them, one is Lil Dirk and one is uh Pooh Shysti. You got those two uh guys who are notable rappers in the game. Uh, not saying that they probably the best of rappers, but they are you know two rappers that you know have a lot of motion in the rap game. Um Pooh Shyste came home maybe two or three months and went back. Um there was something that was that was mentioned about Lil Dirk recently, whereas though Lil Dirk has uh a few guys who are coming out saying that he hired them uh as vitalation for the murder of his brother uh D-Tang. Or was his brother, what's his name? D Thang, his brother now on duty. Um so on uh you can cue it up the the which the uh article it says on April 16th, 2026, Anthony Montgomery Wilson pled guilty in the northern district of Illinois to use of firearms uh during during and retaliation. Is that was I can't really see it or during and in retaliation to a relation or this relation to a crime of violence. Can you see his little far far away from me? I need my glasses.
SPEAKER_06It's a for murdering SM as consideration for the promises and agreement to pay a sum of money from individuals C, defendant. Montgomery Wilson further admitted under oath that after murdering SR, he collected money that had been offered as a consideration for SM. SM orders murder. Yep. It said May 13, 2026, government informed defense council that it was considering following a superseding indictment before trial that would make the Chicago murder of SM and the attempted murder of A.W. in Georgia relevant as direct evidence at trial. May 20th, 2026, Preston Powell pled guilty in the Northern District of Illinois to use a firearm during and in relation to a crime of violence. Murder, who the uh, yeah. Let me say murder for hire. Yeah, murder. No, I didn't see no murder during and in retaliation, in re in relation to a crime of violence. Murder for hire for murdering SM. Among other things, defendant Powell admitted there was a cash bounty for SM. Murder and that part, you gotta pull it up, some duty. All right, that was it right there, I guess.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so it was saying that it was a cash bounty for SM's murder, and that the participant uh particip that uh he particip participated in a conspiracy with Montgomery Wilson to murder SM and collect the payment. So these guys are now flipping on little Dirk and saying that they're gonna, you know, now testify that they were paid to, you know, commit a murder. Uh I saw the murder on tape where they hopped out the car and chased the um these guys hopped out, chased the uh suspect or the or the person that was murdered down, hopped out, chased him, and murdered him. So why is this coming out now? Like, why is this being you know mentioned right now and then released to the public? Why is this being something that's issued out for everybody to see now? Why do you think?
SPEAKER_06Because this ain't the DA that's putting it out there. Now, this people that's getting the transcripts and putting this out there. TMZ and all that other, them news articles and all, them news uh anchors and all that is getting this getting this to put out there to the public, to the mass. Now, what are you asking? Why are they putting it out there? Or why is like what is the question?
SPEAKER_02My question is like, you know, you you see this coming out now, um, as far as the uh now these guys are now willing to testify and because this happened, it says April and May that they these guys committed these actual crimes and now are mentioning that they are testifying, saying that they were paid to do this. This is just April and May that they did this. No, no, no, no, it's not that they did it. This is now they pled guilty. Well, they pled guilty saying that they they're involved and they were paid yes. So I'm saying so. This is this was done back in April and May of this year. Well, they pleaded guilty. So why is it being issued or released now for the public to see this?
SPEAKER_06Because now it's not being issued, it's just when people finally got their hands on it. This this has been issued. When you do it, they got the paperwork been out. The day you the day you go in there and plead guilty to something, that paperwork is ready. It's just that a lot of people ain't got it yet. The TMZ and all these other news anchors, uh, John, they find they find it. They do their homework and finding gets this stuff. This stuff is documented. You can go ahead and pull up pacers and all that other stuff that you could pull up a convict on that's currently serving time, and then pull up all this crucial information, and then it becomes public knowledge. But this this paperwork and all that, this has been out since May 13th, April 16th, but you asking why is it popping up today?
SPEAKER_02It says also it says uh it was the document was filed on 7626. Yeah. So this is July 6, yeah. That's like two days ago. Yeah. So when you look at this right here, right, does this further give you the opinion that Lil Durk is gonna do some time?
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. Them dudes, when you got a dude that I'm saying it's gonna take, I'm not, I hope, man, damn, but I gotta give it to you real and straight, man. When you got people in there that play it out for murdering, like, listen to me, y'all. I'm in court. Me and him is in court. I wouldn't play it out and say, yes, I did this murder. I did it. I'm not only taking accountability, but now I'm placing blame. Okay. I did it because Taulfiq paid me cash to do it. I mean, you know how hard it is to beat that, bro.
SPEAKER_02But you gotta still have evidence that I paid you.
SPEAKER_06Yes, they're gonna probably have money transfers, money wires, conversations. They're gonna they're gonna they're gonna try to get all that. So look, Dirk could be a fool if he if he paid them directly. Well, sometimes niggas do fool shit, bro. It ain't that that's just an opinion.
SPEAKER_02I would never do nothing like that.
SPEAKER_06Okay, well, yeah, in hindsight, you wouldn't, but you know, you might have a nigga that come up, give a motherfucker a handful of c cash or whatever the case may be, however, he did it. I'm not saying it's coming from he he he wired some money somewhere, but they might got actual uh something they could prove of how they got the cash, especially if they his dogs, he knows. Yeah, they got they got intricate information that leads you to believe this. Yeah, this ain't like a motherfucker coming in here that don't know us at all. So now you can make an accusation against us, but what's gonna collab the accusation? You understand? Now I need, oh yeah, I know him. They call him young him, but his real name is Braheen Jackson. You know what I'm saying? Now that's collaborating with the story he gives him. I know these dudes. Not only did they have me do this, but look, I'm gonna tell you further, I know him. So a lot of things come into play when it's stuff like this.
SPEAKER_02So Lil Dirk already knows this stuff. Is he already? I mean, he, of course, you already know that they are testifying against him. He knows this already, right? Yeah, hell yeah, he knows that. He's goddamn right he know that. He knew that way before the paperwork was. At what point do they uh do the feds because I'm just a little confused because I know how you said um in the state indictments, when these indictments like like like YBC and all them on, they don't really tell them what they up against until they go to trial. They don't really like present their evidence against them, right?
SPEAKER_06No, no, no, no. You get your no, you get your evidence, you gotta get your evidence. I'm gonna get you it's called jinx material. Okay. You got to study your case too. You and your lawyer got the right to the whatever accusations get that they can't just get you this at the day of trial. All right, so what I'm saying to you is No, if it's newly discovered evidence, they gotta they gotta submit a motion to the judge. Because the judge could be like, no, y'all should have been had that in for the defense of cancel to have time to study and plan a counter. And the feds, when do you get this? Like, what at what point do you get? You get that after preliminary. After you go to your arraignment and preliminary, that's when all your jinx materials start coming to you. After people got up there and testified to hold you, same thing in state. Once you go to your preliminary, these is the nine times out of ten, all the people that got up there and testified on you in your preliminary is gonna be the same ones at trial. Everything that they said there, every statement that they made behind closed doors and signed off on, this comes to you after preliminary. So you see everything from like in the feds, like whoever probably is.
SPEAKER_02You see this is like say if it took you three years to go to trial, you'll have that paperwork for two, three years. So if I'm on a say, if I so if I'm if I'm on, say me and you me and you on a on a case together. Yeah. Uh and an indictment together. Right.
SPEAKER_06And we on an indictment, and you looking for my name in there, like see what what I said or what I did, or is it a it's like like for example, it's like a page that tells you who's testifying, where you can find no, yeah, you but you'll have like, yes, yes, it's just definitely like that, because they'll say on such and such date, we uh we gather information from a brahim Jackson, and then it'll go on and say whatever I say. Oh, that hurt. Yeah. But in the feds, what they try to do is cross out the names, highlight, and block it out. But but but you'll know who's saying what. Because you know who you did what with, especially if they're in there telling the truth, like, yeah, that day on such and January 16th, nigga got shot, and you know who you shot him with. So you'll you'll be reading the whole testimony and be like, oh, that's such and such is telling right here. Because you know who was with you. Unless it's an outright lie. You understand what I'm saying? Do it make sense to you?
SPEAKER_02It makes a lot of sense, yeah.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, every drones that you see in the feds, every statements that you get from people, the name, the birthday, all that they highlight that out. They just giving you the you won't find out who actually telling if you don't know until the day of court. But you'll know what they said about you already. But you're gonna know because of who you you knew who you did crime with if he in there telling the truth. Yeah, so you're like, damn, this nut ass nigga black done told about that. You know what I'm saying? So but but my name might be highlighted out and all that. They try to protect you as much as they can, but you have a right to face your accuser in court, state court and federal court.
SPEAKER_02So you see like profit hearings and stuff like that. You see all that, whoever profited, whoever gave profit statements, yes, whoever told, all that stuff is visible and able to see that. Um by you uh being like you didn't have anything like that was directly like this, as far as somebody saying it was a murder for hire. When you see something like this in the feds, um Lil Dirk has so much stacked up against him. This is this alone right here can get him life in prison.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, yeah. That right there by itself, murder by you can just lose that and that's life. And then we're gonna go ahead and add up the rest of them drones if you lose anything else. But that that's gonna supersede everything else. You can't even plea out to this. Fuck no, because you ain't no, no, no. They're not even gonna let you plea out to it if they feel as though they got enough evidence. And the plea of fuck around be life, because we going for more with these other charges. So it's just you just hit all the way around the board, you got to go rumble it. You got to go rumble it if you a man.
SPEAKER_02Do you think if Lil Durk was wasn't who he was, that this case wouldn't be as big as it as it is if it wasn't who he was.
SPEAKER_06No, it'd be as big as it is because of somebody out there committing crime, but it's just more magnified because of dirt. Like, damn, this is dirt that did this. So it's more everybody got their eyes on it because it's a big name figure that's charged with this. But if I get charged with that, it's gonna be the same goddamn way. It's just that you ain't gonna know about it because I ain't got no big name. Don't nobody know who I am except the people in my neighborhood. It ain't nobody, nobody's treated differently. Everybody is treated equally when it comes to trying to prosecute you in a court of law in the federal government.
SPEAKER_02I would want to just like what goes into the mind of a snitch? Like you got Anthony Montgomery Wilson. This guy, he he pled guilty, you know. But you tell you you want to know.
SPEAKER_06That's why this is not hard, man. This is not hard. Like, this is not hard to want to know. This is not hard to know. What goes through the mind? Selfish, this goes back to what we talking about, selfish, self-preservation, selfish, wicked, or stingy motherfucker. The gig is up. Both of these guys pled guilty to murder. Yeah, they're getting lesser sentence, they're gonna get him. You see what they did with John Goddy, he played guilty to eight, nine, ten murders. He home with a podcast.
SPEAKER_02Who? Not John God.
SPEAKER_06Not John Gotti. Send me the bull.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah. But they told him everything, a lot of stuff, yeah.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, and the man, but he was their hit man. Yeah, they they're gonna write to you, yeah. We know you kill all the people, give us all this on him. I'll po he's the bigger fish, he's the output the same thing. Yeah, well, well, yeah, the dirt is the bigger fish. Dirt is the big area. Y'all was minions, y'all went out and followed his orders, but this is who we really trying to cook right here. So go ahead, take, go ahead, admit to that. Yeah, I mean, we're gonna get they still gonna get 25, 30, 40 years. They just ain't gonna get their life.
SPEAKER_02Let me ask you this though, because you've been in the feds, you've been in the system already, you've been here. Um if you was little Dirk right now, just looking at what you what you're stacked up against, what's your mind state going into trial? Trial is an I think another.
SPEAKER_06The mind state is rumbling, rumbling. I got to rumble all the way to the door. I got to rumble all the way to the door. And once other things like, and then it all depends on your evidence of how you feel and what would make your mind state. If you're reading your discovery and you look at Dirk, his mind state is I'm cooked. You think so? Yeah. He got so much evidence against him, it's crazy. Now they still gotta prove it. But there is a voice in his head, boy, you might be cooked. He ain't sitting there thinking, I'm absolutely beating this. And you got niggas that think that because ain't no evidence against him. Oh, I'm beating that. That joint was sweet. The lawyer ain't coming up there telling him this is a for sure enough slam dunk. I guarantee you that. So these are all things that make that voice pop, damn, I might be cooked, but I still gotta fight it. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_02So the lawyer probably, the lawyer is probably gonna try to make these dudes look like they are um liars for the most part. That's that's that's the angle the lawyer had to take in regards to these two, uh, Anthony Montgomery Wilson and um uh Preston Powell.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, they're gonna try to discredit them. Like, why would you believe somebody that's out here murdering people? They're trying to look out for their own necks. That's the only defense that they got against them. Like, these people is the same ones that's omitting to killing people in the street. How could you believe someone of this nature? And then that's when they get up there, and the witnesses be like, man, I just want to clear the record. I feel bad about what I did, man. I want to atone for when this is how I atone for what I did wrong. I'm letting everybody, I'm letting y'all know everybody that was involved, including me.
SPEAKER_02And now, to the jury, that looks like he's a um person of honor.
SPEAKER_06Yes, to the jury, no, not even a person of honor, a person of trying to get redeem himself, remorseful. And he he he's sad for what he did, so he letting everybody know what's going on.
SPEAKER_02You know what I'm saying? So, so Lil Dirk is um, you said in the back, it's something in his mind saying, damn.
SPEAKER_06He knows that he got a chance to go to jail for the rest of his life.
SPEAKER_02If he put money in their hand, he knows, like, damn, they may have proof of text messages, uh, phone calls.
SPEAKER_06You know what you did. You know what you did. The person, the, the, the, the, the, the one that's locked up, you know everything that you, you know if you didn't do this or not. You know. You know that solely. The person that's locked up. When they locked me up, when they locked me up for this indictment and all that, I knew it was a chance that I could beat it. And I beat the indictment, but still got charge, got sentenced for the stuff that I lost. And the way the Fed laws is they still gave me the time that they would have if I'd have uh lost the indictment. But I knew in my mind, man, I wasn't, because I knew I wasn't around for it. I was locked up for years.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that's why I was surprised though. I ain't gonna lie, when they well, but but you know they they had to get you guys in the house.
SPEAKER_06Exactly. But they still gave me a lot, they gave me too much time for that. They oversentenced me for that. You know what I'm saying? They still gave me time, like I lost the whole case. But in my mind, before I went to trial, I knew it was a great possibility I beat the case. I'm like, man, they got me by my lawyer told them, he said, Yana, they was an attempt to catch sharks and piranhas, they caught a guppy, which was me. And I knew it. Yes, I am that guppy. I don't know nothing about no murders, all this dope getting sold in the street for five years. I've been locked up the whole time. It's just that I caught a case in the house, and that's how they could place me with the rest of the conspiracy. Yeah, but I was trying to drag you out of that house that day, man. Yeah, you was. You woke me up and was like, man, come on, man. I said, no, I ain't I'm waiting on that nigga to bring my car back. You go ahead and I get what you would. And what no more mornings I got. It was plenty, plenty mornings sput in that penitentiary after that. Hmm.
SPEAKER_02No matter, let me say this to you though. When um when Lil Dirk looks at this, if he's innocent, he never gave these guys the go-ahead or paid these guys. They just they just trying to get themselves out of trouble.
SPEAKER_06Oh, he's gonna feel good. Because you it's things that he can say and implement that alleviate him from the case. Like you see how I beat the conspiracy. I felt good about it. They threw it out. I ain't even had to beat it. They said we ain't even gonna get this to the jury to deliberate on. We're gonna throw it out. They ain't even they seen that it was so minute. Man, we throwing this out, jury, but just Look over these charges. You feel good about it. You feel good about something you know you ain't do.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. I just you know. It's just I just look at the situation and I see this. I just like man, like that's he got he had a hell of a hell of a battle on his hands, man. This is your life, man. This ain't this this is your life, man.
SPEAKER_06We ain't talking about no months, no days, or a couple years. We talking about the rest of your existence.
SPEAKER_02They offer Dirk a a quarter for this. Would you think you should think you should take it?
SPEAKER_06But all this ever see, the only Dirk can be the sole provider. I'ma say yeah, but I don't know if Dirk this is true or not. The only Dirk know if all these accusations is true. If he if he knew it was true. You bet goddamn right. That's 11 half to 23 months in the county. That's the significance of them two sentences as of now with this case. How is Lil Dirk about 30 something? Yeah, he said he is in he's in his 30s. He'd be at home about 50. Yeah, he still got some life left. Still might have some money laying around. Yeah, you playing around, and you won't never get back out here. And get best believed that his father is telling him the same thing.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I know he spoke about that a lot of times. Yeah, man. So what's what happened in regards to this? This is a tough situation. Let's go to we got something else too. Why don't y'all play uh regards to Pooh Shisey? Let's get let's get to Pooh Shyste. Um uh this uh well this was a statement made by uh uh Woody.
SPEAKER_00You ain't making no money. If a nigga can't get me right now and and I made $10 million and I find out he made a hundred million dollars, nigga, I wouldn't never make these ten million dollars without you. I ain't tripping about the hundred million you made. Just don't forget you made a hundred million out of me. So if I ever go broke, you make sure I'm okay. It's helpful. You feel me? Bro, real talk, bro. Our problem is we keeping each other trapped. Look at that, look at this. That man got out of jail two, three months. Two, three months. Two, three months, and you done did it. Bro, y'all recorded it. That's the most embarrassing shit you can do. Nigga, you snitching on yourself. Oh my god. See, y'all on the internet trying to defend a nigga that told on himself. Why did y'all record that video? For everybody who defended these niggas, answer this one question. Why did y'all y'all didn't record the video to embarrass Gucci Man? Every street nigga knows you cannot post this video. If you have somebody at gunpoint and force them to do something, you cannot release that. You say you don't need no police ass shit. Oh yes, you did. You got a GPS monitor on your ankle. You testing. You testing in a Gucci and I need some certified. Everything y'all niggas did. We all just watched the YSL trial. Everybody knows the phone is the biggest threat to people. Why would you be texting on the phone? If you know you committed a crime, why you ain't throw your phone away? Like it's just so much shit that we could do, you feel me, to be smart, but we choose to still be stupid. Everybody always got some dumb ass shit to say instead of listening. I ain't telling y'all the name wrong. You if you if you disinagreeing with anything, you entitled to do that. But let me tell you something. If you disinagreeing with me and you ain't living like this, you need to shut your ass up because I'm telling you, it'd be niggas like you get filled up with them 40s and the 45s and them five five sisters and the two two threes and them south six twos and three oh eight and them three eighty, them nine millimeters, them block tens. You need to be filled up with them because y'all need to be playing, bro. I hate seeing us keep doing this to each other. I hate it. Pooh Sice ain't forever coming home. That nigga name needs to be gone forever because that's what it happened. And any nigga that any of y'all kids that like that shit, let me tell y'all something. This ain't no motherfucking snitch. You feel me? A snitch is a nigga that say fuck everybody. I'm being selfish. That's what Pooh Sice did, nigga. If you want to be honest, that's what he wanted to do. Nigga, Gucci man was irritated. He was heartbroken. That nigga was like, damn, bro, you had a contract. That went fear. Fear nigga be bowling up.
SPEAKER_06If I pull that file, let me go ahead and and and address this first. First and foremost, people already, you know, know about Woody. We done had Woody on a platform before. You know, I respect Woody for his thoughts and his opinions and everything. Um, he has accusations on him that he did this and did that. But we're not, this is we're not, we're not talking about Woody today. We're talking about what he said, the comments that he made. And regardless of what you look at Woody as, as a rat or a stand-up man or whatever you may want to call him, Woody is absolutely, certainly 100% extraordinary and at a lamin rate correct at everything he said just now. Everything he said just now, if you a so-called street nigger, a all the way street nigger, a civilian, even a civilian that ain't never broke law, could sit here and listen to Lil Woody and say he's absolutely correct in his findings on this whole situation. Man, Pooh Shyste did the dumbest thing in the world, man. Not only did he, like what he said, not only did he have a GPS monitor on, you recorded the whole incident. And then, like he said, the beginning, I go back to the beginning. Right? Everything that got him to this jail, uh uh uh Pooh Shyste. Greed. The man, you made 10 million dollars. That man made 10 million dollars. Boy, give me half a million dollars. Fuck the 10. And his man or his manager or whatever you want to call it, because I'm quite sure they had a relationship, got a hundred. Think you can get 200 million dollars and I got a million dollars, bro, and I feel I got money like we'll law he'll but the bottom of my heart, I it all has started from greed. Okay, cool. All right, you might have made that all for me. You helped me get it. You, cause of you, I got a dime. Why am I like what he said? And I'm on some shit. I'm standing with he said, I'm standing with what he said 100%. Because this is some shit I do. Hey, Feek, I got a dime. You got that hundred boy. If I rip through this joint, you better hit my hand. For sure. That's it. Pooh Shasty did the stupidest stuff in the world. You rock, you not only got your GPS monitor on to collaborate everything that's being seen on this camera, you record it and release it.
SPEAKER_04When y'all thought y'all was at in the Wild Wild West back in the day, where it was no laws, when you can run around and just be crazy, a cowboy?
SPEAKER_06Yeah, he's going to jail for a very, very, very long time. I'm gonna go ahead and give you the floor. I had to speak my piece.
SPEAKER_02Well, from what I get from this and this um statement that uh little Woody not on duty, but he said, I agree with him as well because at the end of the day, there's just too many factors of stupidity in this. Like I said, he recorded it, got a GPS on. Uh you uh you're going against this man. This man put you on, gave you a position. Nobody really knew about who you were probably before you got with Gucci man. He might have put money behind your career, helped you helped you get to a certain point. But now, once you sign a deal, a deal is a deal. You can try to try to get something. Let's let's all right, listen, man. You made 100 million, I made 10 million. Let's rework the contract. I'm home now. I'm a little bit more smarter in the game. Let's try to do this. But you try and get out of the contract because you're saying I made 100 million and you made 10. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_06You hear that? You made a hundred. If it all starts the root, I like I was telling them in the crazy clips that I did. That's the case. I'm saying if that's the case, go ahead. But but no, no, this is the case. This ain't no kicks. I see you can't here you go. You need to be one of Pooh Shisy jurors. We've seen him on the camera. No, I'm saying, if that money issue was the case, that's what I'm saying. Okay, if there's a and downtown's attendance, it's gonna be. If he made it's all starting from greed, bro. 10 million dollars ain't enough for you.
SPEAKER_02But sometimes, like you said, like the greed aspect kicks in, whereas though, instead of looking at what I made, I'm looking at what you made.
SPEAKER_06But that's greed, that's what I'm gonna go back and say greed. So what $10 million wasn't sufficient enough for you and your folks? You mad that I got a hundred and I'm the one that put you in play. Like I said, like what he just said, I agree with a thousand and one times in ten different lifetimes, and I'm never changing my stance. Bro, me and you get a deal on this right now, man. You get a hundred men, I got 10, I think I got a hundred million, bro. And if I go broke off this dime, man, you know, boy, I got give me one, man, give me one real fast so we get another come up. And I expect you to give me my one. And even if you didn't, I'd be mad cussing you out, but that's greed, bro. 10 million dollars, you sick. You just came home in three months, you done made that.
SPEAKER_02Man, put it. I think he made that offer the deal over the over the time of yeah.
SPEAKER_06Regardless of what he regardless, you came home and got a dime. And I ain't talking about 10,000, 100,000, 10 million. Who did that in the last 20 years? Who? I don't know, man. I mean in the climate of the world today, coming home getting a dime. Okay, yeah, he worked, he rap good. He got great lyrics. But his actions and his stupidity is gonna land and his father, I blame his father more so than him. You just think you a kid, you 60, 70 years old. Go sit your dumb ass down somewhere. Is his dad that old? Well, if Pooh Shane, he's 30, how old you think his dad is? He was 50 or 60. It's his father.
SPEAKER_02At least it's 60, 70, I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_06Okay, but 60, 70, all that shit. Once you get past 50, all that shit the same to me. So my thing is, he didn't have the proper guidance from a father, his real father. Him himself is a goddamn fool. And greed, greed being number one. You made 10 million dollars. You mad about the hundred that this man made. This man put you in position to get the dime. Without him, you wouldn't even got one. Here it is, you got a dime. I'm sitting over here talking to you, like, yeah, feed me, you got a hundred, man. I got a dime, man. I'm come on, man. Fuck that. I'm gonna cut everything else out. It's all greed to me. It's all greed to me, bro. You give me 100,000, bro. I'm all right.
SPEAKER_05And if I go broke, bro, this shit got crunchy real fast. Hit my hand a little bit.
SPEAKER_06That's it. That's it, and that's all, bro. Niggas be just doing the most, bro.
SPEAKER_02Why do you think that people that are in position, like position of power, right? Or like I'm gonna say position of power, people that have some type of star, uh, uh, you know, uh, ability, notoriety. Why do you think that they just find themselves in these type of situations when they have so much success, but you just make these bonehead decisions. Why do you think that is?
SPEAKER_06Because they think they are invincible. Invincible, yeah. They think they're invincible. That's the only thing I could come up with. They think they above the law. They think they can do what they want. And they'll they're getting humble. Same thing with Dirk.
SPEAKER_02And just because you're the man in the man in your hood, don't mean you're the you're the man in the world. Exactly. So only on your hood know you, nigga. We don't know you over here in Connecticut. And the Fez don't even care about how much money you make. None of that. None of that. Look at Dirk. Dirk got the bag. Look at Puff. Get in there. And we get with you when you're done. And then Lisco's and look, look, what's the boy? Uh is it the boy uh uh what's the guy's name? It don't matter. I would say it doesn't matter how rich you are. If the feds want to lock you up, if they feel like you did something wrong that's warranting an arrest, they coming to get you. They don't care who you is. They try to make it.
SPEAKER_06They think they're bigger than the president. This is the same thing with street niggas, right? On a lower level scale. You out there, police will let you get money for years. That money starts getting to your head, and then you start killing niggas over blocks. That's when they come start scooping your ass up. You done got money for eight, nine, ten years. Soon as you don't start killing people, everybody indicted. You got you got big head. You think you're bigger than the program. You know what I'm saying? And that's just it, man.
SPEAKER_02Like you said, money sometimes breeds arrogance. But most of the time it does. I ain't gonna lie, man. Sometimes you can see the people that that's the brokers in the world, they they be humble. As soon as they get some money, it's really rare to see somebody who gets some money, some got some money, or get some money, or got some money coming, and they're they aren't arrogant.
SPEAKER_06I ain't gonna be arrogant. I ain't got no money. I get some money. Nah, I won't be, I'm a very compassionate and I fuck around and give all my money away. You tell me that every day. Now I will be arrogant towards people that looked at me in a certain manner when I didn't have money. Cause now it was like, Tupac is back. Tupac is back. Yeah. But to be worn around and boasterous around everybody, like you beneath now. I'm type, help you out. Damn, man, man, I need something to eat. He goes $1,000. When I could give him 20 to go get something to eat. Oh, yeah. That's my fault.
SPEAKER_05I gotta, I gotta corral that back.
SPEAKER_06But I'm not no arrogant person by any means.
SPEAKER_02You would broke Ozuna.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, if I go that route, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Broken harness and all that. Yeah, I ain't uh I ain't gonna be uh I ain't with I ain't with all that. I mean, if I get somebody home, you give me something to eat. You know, I give him a.
SPEAKER_06Well, yeah, yeah, we know that. We know that. I want to give a shout out. I want to give a shout out real fast to uh Trapper Die. Thanks for the donation, man. He said uh he wanted out because Gucci was doing songs with his ops and the dudes who killed his friends. All right, if you you go about it that way? If if that's that would do that make Trapper Die, is that a legitimate reason to do that? You you say this like this right here, like I could be wrong, but you say this like this gives him, if he did it because of this, then he got a valid reason. Man, he's a goddamn fool for whatever reason it was in his mind to carry out his act in that manner on house arrest, GPS, on camera, and sending people to footage. You goddamn fool, get your ass in jail. And that's just it. And I ain't one of the ones that's a rat nigga that wants niggas to go to jail, but when you do dumb shit like that and they catch you, I don't feel no goddamn pity for you. And I think that I look at to my son and be like, don't you never make a mistake. I would take his downfall and implant that in my son to be a tool that he needs to survive in life. You don't do that like that.
SPEAKER_02Oh, so you you would you would you would go present this this case or the situation to your son and use it as an example, as an example to uh deter him from that's smart.
SPEAKER_06Yes. Yeah, yes, I use other, and it's sad to say, but I use other people's demises and stepping stools for me to walk cautiously through the land of uh uh land of minds. You mean a mind that blows up? Yeah, the land of I use people other downfalls, which ain't cool. I'm not saying I want people to have no. But if it's a downfall like this, I'm gonna look at that and implement that in my life. This is something that I'm not gonna do.
SPEAKER_02Well, my thing is this though, like, you know, when you see people who take these type of type of pitfall type of situations and they fall off, like, or get caught up in a situation where so they go to jail for a long period of time or be fighting for their life, you got people that they like you said, that they feel like they're invincible and then they don't have the right people around them. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? They don't have the right people to say, nah. There's no way that nobody didn't stop. If if this is true, not saying it's true. If Lil Durk actually paid them bulls that money, I went to them and gave the money to them himself. Like, come on. If that's true, he that's that's that's terrible, that's not smart thinking at all. You know what I'm saying? Or if he had anything leaning back to him as paying these guys, you gotta be real careful, man. And then also with Pooh Sheisty, who was around him? So nobody ain't saying no, don't do that.
SPEAKER_06His father was there. That's why I said I blame him first and foremost. The hell with his homies that should have been saying something because everybody eating off of him, he the pot. He the pot. Ain't none of them getting no 10 million dollars. Pop ain't got no, probably never seen a million dollars hard cash, the friends, everybody, he's the pot. That that goes back to like another father that that that thinks his son is his friend, John Moran. And I don't want to get off subject, but you promote what your son does, the little brainish and the guns, and he getting a little trouble and all, and pop up, nah, nigga, go be a dad. This nigga is making sure he's bringing in generational wealth for the family. I'm keeping this. Can you imagine your son right now? You just had, man. Little a deal, man. He gets 17, 18, they didn't offer this man, he probably good at computing. Man, we offer you 100 million now. What you gonna say from there? He ain't before that, you're gonna have him in place and trained to do the right thing. But you're not gonna be with no, he comes to you one day, damn dad. I was supposed to get 200,000 on this check. They gave me 150. I'm ready to run down there and see what's up with them with my license gun. What you gonna buy? Come on, we down there, son. That's some shit just like how his dad went. Hell no. Come on, bro. Come on, man. This shit ain't no algebra trick and name. This shit ABC one, two, motherfucking three. And that's just it. That's it. This shit be getting me hype about it because I was a fool like these niggas back in the day. And I don't I don't say this to condone Pooh Shiesty or saying he did an idiot won't hit him. Right now, he is in that cell, like, wow. He's not beating that case. Man, that man then slid down a razor blade into an alcohol river, man. His father, big uh, whoever else with all you niggas, I get with you on the back block. Come on, man. Pooh just come home. Now you ready to go in there and do way more time than a little five or six you just did about some dickhead shit. You got 10 million dollars in your camp. You might as well get that shit out.
SPEAKER_02Yo, and listen, and looking at this, right? Do you think that these rappers are gonna take heed to this? That's what that's seeing this because Yeah, everybody's using that as a leverage, too. Like, oh, this is something you can't. So, so you'll be so so if somebody came behind them and went to jail for the same exact thing, they they worse it in them. Yes.
SPEAKER_06They are retarded, they're mentally incapitated. They have, you gotta go ahead and send them to a psych. Something is wrong. They have no brain, they just got a hand with just vessels of shit in it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so yeah, I I would I would agree with you. I would think that anybody who um who went to court, I'm sorry, who got arrested for stuff for the same situation that you see these guys going in for, you gotta be like, it's crazy. I can see somebody going to jail for what Puff was doing though before they go to jail for this. What happened then? I can see somebody going to jail for the puffs type stuff before going to jail for that.
SPEAKER_06Well, yeah, because that's because that's having too much fun. Puff was just having too much fun. Puff, you know what I mean? His everybody in agreement with him. Cassie, yeah. Uh, I'm gonna go ahead and let three of your homies train me while you sit in the corner and smoke your cigar. That they just having too much fun. They somebody people going to jail for it right now. You talk about you can see. It's more the Epstein cases, they having fun. They ain't killing nobody or nothing like that.
SPEAKER_02I don't think Epstein is a little different, though.
SPEAKER_06Oh, Epstein's a little different, but I know they they having fun too, though.
SPEAKER_02Nah, they are out of pocket. But we okay, because it's like a uh bunch of minors or so. But for me, I just look at this situation and look at um, you know, Pooh Shyste and and Lil Durk and look at them and say, Man, is it's like hard to see them, you know, getting past us without some some type of time. You know, like like I would say a little dirk might got a better chance than uh Pooh Shyste. You think so?
SPEAKER_06Yeah. Man, because the dirt ain't on some people. Yeah, but it's still but but he got two people coming in there talking, that equivalent to a camera. But still, but you got two people that's not just coming in there talking, they're a meeting. This would make his shit so crazier than dirt than than Pooh Shasty. I'm coming in there saying, yeah, I killed them people, but Torfiq told me to do it. Bro, that's a heavy boy, but he's believable now. Not only did he take ownership for these bodies, but I'm gonna go further and tell you why I got the bodies. He told me to go do it. Not to say he can't come, but that's a heavy, heavy jump, bro.
SPEAKER_02I saw something that's major, bro. I saw something that Pooh Shice was speaking about on uh another platform. He was talking about the honey bun. He said that some guys in jail be wanting to um you know start a whole riot over a honey bun in jail, or something, or something like that. But then he he said, man, ain't nobody gonna go war for no go to world with no honey bun, man. Honey, take all these honey buns, man. Now we good. I'm trying to get up out of here. That's what he was saying. So he showed that he had some logic during that interview on that podcast um on Mill Not Worth of Game, I believe. He showed that he had some logic, but then he goes and do this. You know, and sometimes too, people come home and they that money goes fast, man. So I giving it away. People are thirsty for money. So it's like you you in there, you in there doing your time. So while you're in there doing time, people was working regular jobs, people was trying to figure it out. So ultimately, when you come home and that and that faucet of money opens back up, now everybody wants to get a piece of that money. Everybody trying to get the checks, everybody got their handout. You know what I mean? So now he's feeling the pressure of having to provide for all these people once again, and this can lead to you doing something dumb. Especially also, like, but but look at it though. He's he said he uh what's called got a hundred million and he got 10. Yeah. Right? He probably could have told Gucci, man, man, let me get come on, bro. We my man, man. Let me get me get away.
SPEAKER_06Well, that's what we just we we we barking up the same tree. We just now said that. Let me get a dub, bro. I'm not asking you. I'm not even asking. Once you put a 10 million in my head, bro, I could care less what you got. From the bottom of my heart, bro. I'ma ask you, man. You sure you cool? Do you need some of this dime?
SPEAKER_02No, dude.
SPEAKER_06Like, for real, bro. Like, come on, bro. You come to me one day with a check, your gum, your young black me outside, what's up? They go dime. What's this? What's this? You need something, bro? That's my first joint. Man, come on, bro. Even if I know you got 100 mil, bro. I'm gonna get you a car today. Come on. You like them do the rainbow hell case and go, yeah. Yes. So yes, yes. So when you make when it when it's time to call it a dime and all that, you go, you go over and I'm gonna they're gonna think I was breaking in the man's gym because somebody's scaling the wall in the back. I'm just trying to get to the highest point. A lot of acrobat. They're gonna be like, anybody can get up and pray that day. Yeah, oh yeah. Bro, that's like come on, bro. Like when you come from the floor, man. See, you you laugh and play about certain things, man. Certain things I take to the heart emotionally, man. When you change your situation and you did it in a good way, man, because you could change your situation in a negative way, but now you got to be ducking and looking and shaking and jiving. But when you change your situation off of hard work, off of what you did, man, and then and then not only me, but you, and then a motherfucker come through and boom. I I don't even got words to say, bro. I don't even got words to say, bro. Because I come from a hard life, man. Hard life, man. Very hard, hard life, hard health, everything, man. And I just be like, damn, and for you to just get a little, I don't know, man. I I just think on a whole different type of wave, man. I'm very humbled, I'm very appreciative, man. You know what I mean? And I carry, I try to, I get my ways, I get, I get, you know, temper tantrum and you know, snobby and want to argue, but uh at the core of me, I'm a very appreciative and humble person, man. The core of me, man.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. And it's like sometimes, like, you know, the uh I'll say that the blessing can be delayed for an extensive period for a reason. Whatever, you know, whatever. Because you might we we we want all want certain things. You know what I'm saying? We all wait, everybody waiting on something on whether it's an opportunity, more money, or whatever, waiting on. It's just sometimes it can be a little delayed a little bit more than you actually expected it to. For a reason. Because something you had to learn before you get it. This I'm speaking about my experiences as well. As well as things that I that I go through that I'm going through now, it's like so it's delayed a little more than I wanted it to. You know, I it get frustrating, it gets, you know, things get, you know, you just get you just get fed up and you get tired, and you like, but it's delayed for a reason. So when I think about that, whether why it's delayed or why I'm going through a calamity or whatever the case may be, it I always was just like, you know, just this is just the plan of God, man. This is a wild plan. So I'm not even gonna get myself all bent out of shape. I might get to grunt for a minute. You ask me all the time stuff, certain questions, like, how do you feel about this? And how you feel about that? And I'll be like, man, it just it is what it is. You know? Because you you can't never get too high or get too low. Because if you get too high and too happy with something, then it don't come through, then you then you sad. But if you get too low about something, then you and then you when when it comes you, or when when you when you when you receive your blessing, you just you too, you just too too happy, happy, and you just don't really get a chance to actually enjoy it.
SPEAKER_06You talk for yourself. Yeah, you're saying I'm saying because you talk for yourself. I come from out the you ain't ready to do that. You know how you say some people come from the floor, I come from underneath the ground. Yeah, I'm saying, because when you get it, you do happy, now you're just giving it all out. No, no, no. That's you're right. No, no, no. But you just why the delay, that's why the delay is to pity like that. This is the delay, you telling me. These are the these are the lessons if it ever happened one day. You know what I'm saying? These are the lessons that I'm getting during the delay. Yeah. Don't give you like because right now, like I said, I just told you that because I know my heart as far as in me going to, I'm telling you, I'm not greedy and I don't be boastful.
SPEAKER_02Do you think your mind is your mindset, your mind state is the same as it was six months ago? No, absolutely not.
SPEAKER_06By you going through what you're going through? Yes, absolutely not, bro. I still have abundance of compassion in me to help a person out, but I'm not gonna break myself into helping you out.
SPEAKER_03Mm-mm.
SPEAKER_06Mm-mm. Mm-mm. I have to practice some self-preservation. Some self-preservation. Because if I ain't right, can't nobody else be right. That's just the law of the land. How I'm gonna help you, I'll help her, I'll help him, I'll help she out, and I ain't right. If I deplete myself, you gotta, you gotta, you got, you gotta. Like, shout out the Wallow. Say no to them and yes to you. Say no to them and yes to you. That's a goddamn crazy statement that that man made. You got to, man. And then I'm not saying, because you might have told me a thousand, like you said the other day, I could tell you yes a thousand times, and that one no you get is like I never did nothing for you ever in your life. You gotta take your nose. Like you take your nose, and I tell you that, yes, and I'm good with it.
SPEAKER_02I'm good with taking my nose like I take my yes. Yeah, but not everybody. It's not just you, not as you, because sometimes people look at it like, man, dang, you living over here, you got this going on, and you got that going on. And yeah, but that's that's you. But no, but I'm saying, not you per se, but everybody don't have that mentality to think like that, bro. No, because they ain't been through what I've been through.
SPEAKER_06People people look at people's entitlement. Like, dang, I know shit can get crunchy, super crunchy at an alarming rate. So that's where the appreciation comes in. My whole life been crunching much, up until 46 years old, which I am today. So when a little bit of light shivering, I go bass in that motherfucker. Like, damn, what's a little sun ray on me? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's just that's just me. I'm not saying the way I'm carrying is the correct, I'm just saying how I carry it. Appreciation on a billion, humble humza. Yeah, me. Yeah, but you can't.
SPEAKER_02I just be telling people all the time, like, you know, well, this guy gets some money, just watch out. No, it's not watching.
SPEAKER_06No, I'm just saying you say watch out in what manner?
SPEAKER_02In the manner, like I'm for those that that I know that probably counted you out, and it still won't be like that towards the. Nah, nah, nah. I I disagree. I think that you uh like you said, I think that you're gonna do, as you said, you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna sniff and sniff it and breathe a little bit. Yes, you're gonna, you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna look at them.
SPEAKER_06Allah, if if I get a law has blessed me, so like you told me one day before, I ain't got it. Allah bless me. Uh yeah, I'm gonna show my proceeds of what you doing the right thing, hustling, grinding, working the right way. I'm gonna show what you can get. Maybe this can be, you know, maybe this will motivate people. But for the naysayers, the ones that to my face disrespected me, I don't have no ill will for them. I don't have no, but when you see me, you gonna see me. It ain't gonna be, was that black? No, you gonna know that was black, and that ain't grinding you up. Yeah, yeah, I'm coming through uh uh uh uh uh 40, 30 degrees outside, top then. What we doing? Come on, man.
SPEAKER_02A little revelto, a little spectra or something like that.
SPEAKER_06My man, how you I don't even know how to say revelto. We out here. That shit ain't supposed to be on a let alone in this bad city of Philadelphia of ours. But in the winter, I'm driving in the wintertime, so you know I'm ready to wreck. But you gonna know Black came through in here and rebelta, whatever it is, the top down, both the doors up. Yeah, because I wanna show the reason why anybody could be in that position, broke and fucked up. Anybody. That don't mean you gotta stay in that position. That's the whole thing. And for the naysayers, don't count your motherfucking eggs too fast because them bitches might crack. And you might be where I just came from. It's an escalator. It's escalator, go up and down, and everybody on their own joint. Any day, it can switch. You're gonna be on the moon or you can be on the floor. Boy, and I've been on the floor all my motherfucking life. I ain't got nowhere to go but up there.
SPEAKER_07Man, look, man. Oh my gosh. I take a quick break, y'all be right back, okay?
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SPEAKER_02We back. So when you get, you know, uh a bit of success, right? Or just living just living your life. Outside of the success, sometimes, you know, there can be a calamities that come about. Right. You know, you can, you know, the worst thing that happens to you, you can lose your life. But in the process of your role, your journey of being successful, or just living your life, people lose their jobs, people lose their loved ones, people lose, you know, they they they health, their health decline. You know, all sometimes uh it helps you with it's a part of the actual journey for when you get to a point where as though you're at peace. And it can be with money, it can be with just you know, contentment with life, or it can be a good job, it can be just all these different things. So you gotta accept the actual journey and everything that comes along with it, and just and and just remembering, don't forget, don't forget where you came from, don't forget uh the trials and tribulations that made you who you are when you got to that point where you became you know successful or had some type of success. You know what I'm saying? And then when you do get it, don't look at it like this the uh end all be all. Stay hungry, stay motivated.
SPEAKER_06That will one thing about getting it, for me anyway, you are absolutely correct, Fete. In my mind, I think about days and days go past. I'm like, boy, if I ever came up with some, that will only make me go harder. Because I feel good now. My days will be less gloomy, and then I want to keep this feeling. And by keeping the feeling, that means keep my shit stacked up. Yeah, and I can't keep keep it stacked up by spending money every day sitting in the house and going on trips and going all these. I'm gonna be back to where I was. Back gloomy. That'll keep once I oh man, I might I might touch a little something to get across. But now I see that damn, the light there. I don't never want to go back to this. Yeah. So you are absolutely correct. It don't stop. It come, it becomes actually in my book, it comes even harder once you finally do get a break. Yeah. Because now you gotta maintain and keep it swelling. See, a lot of people get it and fall back. Hands up. Like we know a couple dudes, man, had the murder case in our neighborhood, the Lex Street Joan. They all got like 250,000, which they could have probably got more. They was broken six, seven months, year tops. And then they ordering chicken wings on layaway and shit like that. Now, I mean that that the easy part is obtained that ain't easy, but once you get it, the hardest part is maintaining and staying relevant. You can have some fun, go out and do all that, whatever you planned on and dreamed of doing, and then you got little things in place to do that, but don't do it in abundance, like this shit just gonna be here forever. Because if it was free, you would have been doing it broke. Evidently, it ain't free at costs. Yeah, man. You better think. And I and I'm speaking to myself more so than the audience, you, everything. You know what I'm saying? Like, bro, boy.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Cause you know, that's that's the main thing, too. When you get something trying to main trying to maintain it.
SPEAKER_06But you feel comfortable maintaining. I feel comfortable. If I was against something, boom, I know I got this right here. So I ain't my back ain't against the wall. The only thing that makes a motherfucker stress is when they back against the wall. Well, me, I can't say I only can talk about me. And if you understand and feel what I'm coming from, then you can equate that to you. But what makes me fucked up, my back against the wall. My back ain't against the wall. I got a little relief. Now I gotta keep on humping. I gotta keep on humping to keep this maintained. That only gonna fire me up to keep going because in my mind it's a trick. Oh my god, I got this. Y'all trying to trick me, go spend all my motherfucking money and be back. You gonna feel crazier now after you spent your money than you did before you had one.
SPEAKER_02Let me ask you a question. Would you feel worse going back to jail than you would feel if you got rich and then went broke?
SPEAKER_06Which one would you? Worse. Worse if I got rich and went broke. If I were real, because going back to jail is a thing that I deal with every day. That's a real life possibility. I just maintain the control, whatever emotions I got to keep me from doing dumb shit and seeing the brighter light over here. And I'm only speaking as a man on some real shit. But if I was to run into some nice for loose, me make it like whatever the case may be. And because it's it's changing a life real fast. Yeah. You go from walking, you go from Niking it and liking it. That means walking, Niking and liking it. To riding nice little shit. Bro, you might have been staying in your girl crib or staying wherever you now you can go ahead and get you a little something, your little residence right there. You maintain your paying on bills. You might have had a fucking uh iPhone 8, and then you got the 16. To go back to that after that? Bro, then why you think people kill themselves? They got a lot of money, go gamble it up, it's gone. Boom, it's over with. That can't what? Come on, bro. Yeah. Come on, bro. So look at this state of the world now after the pandemic, after everybody got all that money. All that money was being jammed down niggas throats for what, two, three years straight? Not longer. Now they stopped it. Couple years have been stopped. Pussy back to $20. Uh uh, the the yerkes is back low to just I'm just the criminal part of it. Everything, everything, motherfuckers is more depressed than they was before the pandemic, and they gave out that money, bro. Because you got a taste of something that you never tasted and then lost it, squandered it away. Now you back. That, bro, that that leads to suicide, bro. Yeah. Don't give me the money and I go, bro. No, oh my God. I can only imagine, man. We come up on a deal or something. I got a knife, I'm back in your face nine months later, talking about I need $50 for some gas money, cuz. You like what you did with the money. I'm like, shh, man, bro, that I can't even talk about this in the street, man, man, because it's this is a real emotional topic for me.
SPEAKER_02It's called uh celebrating over elevating.
SPEAKER_06Celebrating over elevating. Boy, boy, now you cooking with grease today. You cooking with grease today.
SPEAKER_02Celebrating too fast, man. Without trying to use the money to elevate, you know, and get and keep and keep going. Because at the end of the day, you know, once you get a million dollars, once you spend a dollar, it's not a million anymore. One dollar is not a million anymore.
SPEAKER_06It's not exactly for 50 cents. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02A quarter. A quarter, yes. You spend one quarter of that. It's not a million dollars anymore. Eight a million or more. So, you know what I'm saying? You want to try to if you get some happen to get some type of millions of dollars, you want to take it and invest it and put it in certain places where as though it can it can can uh generate uh revenue for you, opposed to start running through it. You know what I'm saying? Now, don't get me wrong, it's good to spend money. Like, it's good to spend money on yourself when you like to to and your family. Yeah, like you know what I mean, but just gotta be moderate, man. Yeah. Cause sometimes when you get money, everybody else is looking at you like what they gonna spend. You know what I'm saying? You got you looking at what you're gonna spend, and you might have somebody who might look at you like, yeah, so what I'm gonna spend, what he what he gonna give me. Oh, my pocket? Yeah. That's how I be. You know what I'm saying? Well, yeah, well, I want them to come thinking that with me. It's gonna be somebody close to you that's gonna wanna, you know what I mean, who's gonna want you to be able to do that?
SPEAKER_06The only one that's entitled to think about that like that with me is my old lady and my son. Yeah. I might have friends that, you know, if I'm in a good position and what they come to is is all right, cool. Certain friends. It's not even a handful. It's not even a handful with me, cuz certain friends might be, and then it gotta be the friends that I know of, you know, if they wanted they can give it back. Like certain friends that see, I'm so down in the hole, though, bro. That's why I say my appreciation is so large that I owe for life, bro. Like, I could know you have so much money, and then I have money, and you'll come to me and be like, yo, young, give me 20, 30,000. Here you go. I know you got two million over there. I'm not never telling you no. And maybe I'm a fool for that. Maybe I'm not. But that's just the way I'm built, and that's certain things I can't reject out of my body.
SPEAKER_02Hey, shout out to uh Q Cool13 for the donation, man. He said, when I see y'all on the 18th, I'm all teeth and palms. Don't call me Joe. Y'all say we family, right? Yes, we are. Um he said, I'm talking to the chat. Yeah, man. So, you know, when we see you, bro, you know, it's all love, man. But like I said, you know, money, um, when you get a success or status, like people, sometimes people wait for a job for so long. I'm trying to try and get this job, trying to get this job, trying to get this promotion, and they get the promotion, and then they just get, like I said, they just cool, or they get the job, like, yeah, I got the job.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, see, they they they the fools, they the fools. They the fools. My thing is I need to see it to believe it. The more I keep, I'm I'm the opposite. If I'm doing it and doing it, and we might be at the gate, ready to get it. I would be wanting to be done with it. I ain't getting nothing from it. I ain't getting nothing from it. I'm like, damn, it took us two, three years. I'ma be wanting to leave and quit. And I'll be needing your voice. Come on, man, we right here. Come on, come on, man. The water right here, we gotta drink, come on. I be wanting to go back. Me, I get it. Like, what they gave us this. Oh, we can get some more. Oh my god. I see it's true now. I will move my bead in here. It's true. I'm the opposite way around. I can get all this, and then now I can be missing because I'm doing the right thing, meaning your girl, we always at work. Yeah, this is why I'm at work. Take this and go shopping to ball that leave me. And she ain't gonna be tripping by me at work no more. I alleviated that problem. You know what I'm saying? Kids, yeah, school shopping, we can even get out of here and go get all that. I'm back in here. I know where I'm getting my bread from. I see it. It's tangible. But you know, you know what I mean? When you when I don't see it, I'll be like, man. See, I'm lazy getting in. I want to leave early. I mean, that's that's that's just the way I'm made up.
SPEAKER_02And then you, but like, but to talk about the jail aspect of it, you know, you know, like you you you crave or wait for the day to be released from prison, having all these hopes of what you're gonna do when you when you when you get out of prison. That's like getting the money.
SPEAKER_06What do you mean, say that again?
SPEAKER_02Like being released from prison after being, now you've been being jail, you've been in jail 21 years, waiting for the day you're gonna be released. Exactly. Right? Yeah. So that's almost like waiting for the time when you're gonna get some money. So now when you get out of jail, for those who come out of jail, you want to maximize your opportunity when you get out and not go back.
SPEAKER_06Like going back, but you can't, I can't, I can't, yeah, you you right, right, you right in a sense, but when a person like the lady just said the day I watched her real, she got a husband in jail, and she stands by him, and she and it goes as our topic about yesterday about the mental of a man coming home from doing a lot of time. When you take a person like a big time drug dealer and give him 30 years, all he knows in his life is selling drugs. He knows how to get money in the streets. Now, he gotta come home with this new mind frame. I just did 20 years, I gotta go get me a job, and shit ain't pass panning out fast enough for all. All he knows is how to do this to obtain some money. So I can't I can't really add them two up. Because a person is gonna fall back, nine times out of ten, he's gonna fall back to his ways.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but I'm saying, I mean, I would I I would hope that nobody wouldn't do that, but I'm just saying the opportunity when you get out is like the opportunity you get when you get that money. You know what I'm saying? Because like you might get money and still got still heights to reach, still things you can obtain with the money. Because you might only get enough money at the first time and get enough money to get you a crib in the car. So now the next time you get some money, now it can be to start, you know, to get into real estate or get something else. You take the money, just take it in the spirits, how you get it. Like you might get our now, let's let's let me get comfortable. Let me get me let me buy a property for me and my family, got a house. So we gotta worry about no worry about no house. Give me a little reasonable car, something I could I could afford to get. You know what I'm saying? Now I'm comfortable. I got a crib, I got a car, we got everything that we need. Now let me go get some money so I can get what that's what we want.
SPEAKER_06That's all I want to do. That's it. That's me. Everybody don't think like that. People want to live outside their means. Yeah, they go. Just cause you got a hundred thousand don't mean you got it. Like you say, when you spend one dollar of a hundred thousand, you got that's even shorter than a myth. Yeah, but I just like to be comfortable. Nice little car. I don't care about no make backs, rapes. I go borrow your shit. Motherfucker, nice little, decent, respectable car, push start, whatever, crib, rent, pay, decked out, girl cool, take a trip with that's it. I'm going to work all the time. I'm not looking to be Tony Montana, jeweled up. That's when you and I'm not saying there's nothing wrong with that. If you can maintain that and float that by all means necessary, do you. I just that just ain't me. That ain't never been me, bro. I ain't been no watch board, no big time, nothing. I could get a hundred million dollars right now, and then that won't happen. Well, matter of fact, let me see what my vice is like a vice that's something that I like a lot. I don't even know if I got something like you know how you got some people that got money, they like cars, they buy all the cars. They got the new little laborgini, they got this joint or chicken wing that you was talking about and all that. Boom, because he he got a vice for cars, but he got the money to go get it. You know what I'm saying? Uh, you got people who got vice for clothes. I mean, I wouldn't say, I go get me, bro. We're running to some money, I go get me 20 pair Nike track suits and all different colors and 10 pair A6. And I can have a million dollars in my account. Not a Gucci in sight, not a Louie in sight. And if I do got a watch, it's cause he bought it. I don't care about that. I'm 46, I'm headed to the grave in a minute. Not to say in them, but I'm closer to death than I am life. I want to be comfortable. And when I say comfortable, the guy's talking about, yo, we going to Cam Cun this, you mean this weekend? That shit, what, stack 1200 to have a good time? I want to be able to go in. All right, I can do that. I can put that back off next week, chat.
SPEAKER_03Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_06Motherfucker's talking about we going fishing, that shit 300 hours. All right, we get on it. This is the type of stuff I like to do. And I get full enjoyment out of my activities.
SPEAKER_02And do you think people that go back to jail uh they miss it, they don't may not miss the the uh the the huge opportunities or the splurging moments, but they might just miss small opportunities like being with your kids and being at home just watching the movie. Yes. It ain't really always about like this. Oh, we was over here in Miami when I was in LA.
SPEAKER_06You're gonna miss a small day going in the refrigerator.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Taking a shit in the bathroom, closing your own door, and sitting there for hours if you want to. Yeah. I'm talking about the mic. You ain't even gonna think about it. You're gonna think about the mic coming outside and looking around, taking your trash to the curve because it's trash day and going back in with your slippers and shit on. These are the type of mind new. Sitting out when I first came home, I shoveled 10 people front off the snow when I first came home. Just to do it. Yeah. I'm out there two, three in the morning, Lil' Flurry is sprinkling on me. Tank top. Tank top boots and shorts. Snowing. But this is something that like you, you, you, you appreciate it so much better. You know what I'm saying? When you've been deprived of it, or not even deprived, because it's deprived means you was neglected or something. No, I committed a crime that sent me to jail. So I threw away my freedom. I threw away my freedom because I was out here breaking the law. And that's taking me taking full accountability of it. And I'm like, damn, something I threw away, I got it back. Because everybody don't get the chance to get it back.
SPEAKER_02And that's a message for people out here because people out here sometimes can look at their phones and see people, people on private jets and planes, and but it's people in jail that just ain't even worried about none of that. They more so worried about what? Just like you said, being able to be home with their kids, take that walk to school with their kids. That's it, man. I ain't gotta drive my son to school. I can walk three blocks to get him to school. I can, you know, pick up my daughter, I can hug my mom, I can hug my wife, I can hug, you know what I'm saying? My siblings. It's just small things. Nobody aren't really thinking about duty. Nobody's not really thinking about, you know, those extravagant opportunities that presented themselves when they had money. Now, I just want to get home and get back to that normal life, and I can figure out a way to get to everything else after I just get back to this normal life as a uh uh uh law-abiding citizen. Because we because like things humble you and bring you back to reality, man. You know, we all been there.
SPEAKER_06You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I want to answer this question from Joe De Niro, 32. He said, Black, you ever been out the country before? If not, where you want to go? See, I used to think out the country was like the Miami and Atlanta, because my mind wasn't developing when I went to jail. I was a dickhead. Now out the co I I really don't have no, I don't have no destination that I would want to go to. Like, like what? I I don't know. I uh I gotta start off with the little stuff first. I ain't been there. So I ain't even thinking about out the country yet. I'm I'm shit. You mean Atlanta trip, uh Miami trip and go, yeah, man. I don't even want to do that. That's like party, like I can stay in Philadelphia for that. I mean, I I want to go to country life somewhere, and I ain't gotta lead the country for that. But I mean, I I have no answer to that. Probably I'll have an answer in the next couple weeks for you. But as of right now, like if I was that lead, I don't I don't I don't I I don't know because I just don't know. I don't know where to, yeah, I mean, where would I go out the c I don't know?
SPEAKER_02You know, and then also another thing too, just like sometimes we can be beefing with somebody that you know for years, you know, and things may happen to to cause y'all to have like a bit of a friction or a problem. You know what I'm saying? And then when something bad happens, it may happen to somebody close to you or somebody far from you. It helps you realize that it ain't really always worth it. And the the the uh the issue that you maybe have with somebody is not really worth it. We just had a situation just now, I don't even want to speak about that, but somebody we just we just sitting here on a podcast and somebody called called young and told us that somebody that we know is got indicted by the feds. And we said about like, damn. Yeah, man. That this this this just happened just now. Somebody just called us and said, you know, the feds got so-and-so. We like damn.
SPEAKER_06Just that quick. Cause you never know, because it you know And I just was out with this man. This is a co-defender of mine, so I'm not gonna put his name out there because you know, he got things going on, and he got he if he indicted, so he's back in court and all that. But uh we was just out two weeks ago, man. Just like he took me out, me and a couple of my co-defenders out. We went out, had a good time out drinking, eating, whatever the case may be. And he paid the whole bill. And just that fast, man. Not even two weeks ago, like a week ago. Just that fast, man. I get a call while we had that commercial break. That man is back in the FDC Philadelphia. Brand new indictment. And I get it, I get it. He don't want to be broke. I get it, I get that part of it. So, and I'm not saying he did anything. I'm not saying he did anything or sold, I don't know, but if the key if certain things is true, I get that. But for us, we all been over there 20 years and better, and I get it. Like me, I I cause I did it, I did it. I I came home and started selling perkin sets and carrying guns. I had to go back. Alhamdulillah, the Lord didn't punish me and take 10, 15 years from me after I did 21 years. I had to go back, did a light two years and got out of there. But that was that was my blessing. That was my blessing. You know what I'm saying? So, but I get it, because I came home, shit wasn't working fast enough. I had little jobs and all shit wasn't paying enough, and all that. I want me a nice little apartment and all that. I want me a car. I mean, and I start hustling. Start hustling perkassets and carrying guns every day. So I get it. I'm not sitting here condemning him, like, yo, he's a fool. I you know, I just did it. I just did it.
SPEAKER_02But is it worth it? That's the question. Cause now, like you said, there's a lot of factors that go into the situation, you know. I mean, inshallah, he he become out and don't uh catch another, you know, get sentenced or extensive time. But like you said, you come back in here with the same issue you just got out with. You come back in front of this judge again with the same issue, right? So now what you said that's double. If if if the case, if that's what it is, if he's coming back in there with the same issue he had before, they already, like you said, uh take this 40 over here. I got it. Let's let's talk about now. We're gonna talk about everything else. And that not saying him, but that leads people to do what they want something they might want to tell. Like, damn, I can't go, I can't go back up. You know what I'm saying? Not saying this is him, but a lot of individuals think like that. I can't go back up. I can't do another 20, 30 years, man. I don't want to do that, man. I just did this sub ministry because now you just like damn I gotta do this. But this this is this the reality, like you said. So it's like if you're gonna make a decision to go out here and break law and and can and and commit crime, make sure you understand you if you're gonna do the crime, make sure you're able to do the time and don't get up there and start folding. Because that's a choice that you make. But like you said, people be broke, people need money, people don't really have patience all the time to really or don't have the ability to find something that they think can make them money, and then it's also sometimes we always look at something that somebody else got sometimes. You know what I'm saying? We want to live a life that somebody else got. And the fastest way to get to that is to break law. It's is it's sad to say, but the fastest way to get to a certain point sometime is to break law, and then what happens? You you end up getting caught up sometimes. But you know, look at look at look at our uh our brother, man, he's in a situation now and you just feel bad for him. What he did, what duh? Yeah, he did 19. And in his mind state, knowing he he knows the system, he knows how the feds work. He knows the ins and out of it. And I talked to him and he said, and you know, like if this is if he's found guilty on this situation, whatever the case, if it if it's the same situation, he's gonna look at some extensive time with this man. It's sad, bro. Sad, it's heartbreaking. You know, but you know, y'all listen, man, we might open the phone lines for y'all, man. Take a few calls before we get up out there. We got a few minutes before we get up, before we leave. I've out of here, but y'all know the number 215-316-4492. 215-316-4492. You know. But yeah, y'all, July 18th, live event. Make sure y'all got your tickets, man. Hit the like button, man. It's almost 250 people here in the in the in the chat. Uh, hit the like button, man. We appreciate the support.
SPEAKER_06And it's only 59 likes. Come on, man. Am I talking for nothing? Is y'all not listening? Is y'all not listening to what me and Brother Tall Feet got to say? Is we not interesting? We got 260 people in the chat, and we only got 60 likes. Now, see, this is something that depresses me. This is why I might not even show up tomorrow. You I can't. I can't show up tomorrow. You you don't like me. You in my face telling me, yeah, I don't like you by not hitting that like button, and it's 260 in here. At least give me 80 to a bean. Dang, we ain't worth that.
SPEAKER_02We're gonna continue on. Phone lines over, y'all. 215-316-4492, 215-316-4492. But yeah, man, it's unfortunate. But with that, I think I'll rather get that call than get a call that this might kill.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_06But him and his mind, he'd rather you get the call you got killed than going back to jail. You think so? Yeah. He a convict. That man ain't trying to be back in there. Because I'm gonna want you to get the call I got killed instead of going back. I'm not don't man, niggas like that.
SPEAKER_02I'd rather hear that you were in there. I can still.
SPEAKER_05Okay, well, I'm just telling you what we rather hear. I mean, what we would rather you hear.
SPEAKER_02You rather hear like then you got murder. Yeah, nah, man. I can't talk to you no more. I can't argue with you on the phone. We can still you can still call me. Yo, I can still call you. Like, yo, what's up, man? You know, you might get close, you might be at Fort Dicks. Close, I can, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_05Make heavy out, man. You'll be Jack Jack a later and say, Well, yo, you'll be chicken wing pulled up for the visit and all that.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. You can still do some things, man. We got the phone, we got the phone still on. Phone line is over, and y'all for y'all to call, man. Yeah, I mean, y'all got anything to say about what we said? Any uh suggestions? 215-316-4492. Again, it's 215-316-4492. Oh, it's 85 likes now. Damn. Oh, y'all shot them joints up. Okay, I'm coming tomorrow. I'm coming, I'll be here tomorrow. Oh shit, it's 93. Okay. That's what I'm talking about. Y'all show this this is just depreciation. Because I'm showing y'all appreciation by coming every day and telling y'all our truths. Every day. We might miss a day or two, but for the most part, we're here. But now the appreciation I need to see from y'all is that okay, I see damn near 300 people in that joint. But if I ain't getting it like this, like people just going past it. That's the appreciation for me, man. And thank you. And I can speak on Tal Feek behalf. He feels the thanks too.
SPEAKER_02Sure. Yeah, y'all. July 18th, man. Huh? Miana? Y'all can hear yeah.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, man. So, what you got planned for the rest of the day, man?
SPEAKER_06Oh, I'm about to go down here and make a little $50. I gotta do this waterfront, John.
SPEAKER_02Tell us in the jails, we speaking with this dollar bills from North. What's up, y'all? Shalam what you're like, what's up? What's up, Dollar Bills? Shout out to North Philly. What's up, bro?
SPEAKER_10Hey, I tapped in a little late, right? But did y'all speak on the young bulls that killed the uh the door dash bull last night out southwest? No, we didn't speak on it.
SPEAKER_02Oh, probably gonna talk about that.
SPEAKER_10Did y'all hear about it? No, I didn't. Oh, yeah, man. Yeah, I I I I for sure thought that might have been the topic today because it was all on the news this morning.
SPEAKER_02No, no, no. I ain't even uh I didn't even see it. I didn't even I didn't hear nothing about it.
SPEAKER_10Yeah, I was just I was calling in to ask that question, but and I mean, well, I can't even ask you how y'all feel about it.
SPEAKER_02Well, just hearing just hearing about it. I mean, it's just crazy, like just a hand.
SPEAKER_10All right, well, I'm gonna give you my spill real quick, right? Cool. All right, black always, and you too, y'all talking about the parents as far as like being involved and how y'all parent, like black might say you two hands on. Black say he wants his younger to fill a fire a little bit, right? But like, do y'all blame? Do y'all place blame on the parents as far as like your kids is robbing food delivery people, right? Like people that deliver like cheese steaks from bowlies, you know, chicken wings. So, how much money are they expected to get from that? And then you rob, I mean, then you kill them on top of that. So, like, do the parents? I'm just like, I take it back to the parents, like, what are you teaching the kids?
SPEAKER_06I agree with you, but sometimes these kids are unruly. I know some good parents out here, man, and they got kids that's unruly. I'm talking about they can't even control them. So, and so all right.
SPEAKER_10So, let me ask you this how do the parents deal with those kids? Do they do they let them come and go as they please?
SPEAKER_06No, they get away from them, they separate they separate that. I think they should separate themselves from if they can't control them and they too unruly, separate yourself from it. This is a lost cause, right here. He out here, he's killing, or she out there. You mean I would get away from my son if I couldn't control him and I was lightweight because I ain't scared of myself. For me, not to control my son, that means I'm scared of him. I'm not scared of my son. He can never ever beat me up. I don't care how old I get, and he's gonna have that indoctrinating like this. My pop. Because I'm hand, I'm I'm not all the way hands-on, but I'm gonna be hands-on. So with me, all right, what go ahead, and one more question.
SPEAKER_10All right, so going over what you just said, Black Mike, they catch the young bulls because they they left cell phones and all that at the same time when y'all get a chance to check out the story, right? Do y'all do y'all go see them? And because y'all was talking about the kids in court yesterday, and if they out here doing wrong, should you feel sorry for them and rob for them? No, I'm going to see my son.
SPEAKER_06If they get yeah, me too. I'm going to see my son, and I'm gonna grind him up. Them first couple, I'm gonna be grinding his ass up. Yup, this is my son at the end of the day, and I'm up there. I ain't going to be like, yo, it's gonna be okay. Oh my god, man. No, I'm going to be look with you. Look where you at now, dickhead. This shit hurt, don't it? He is gonna be a whole, he's gonna know about it today. All right, say the bull. All right, J Day, bro. All right, so all right, y'all. Hey, hey, James the Plame, Dark Skin Beauty. I hope y'all didn't take that the wrong way with me saying about you know the likes being up. I know the family is in the building, but it's still a fact. It was only 60 likes before I said something. Soon as I say something, it gets the 110, 120. I'm not trying to come at none of the family, nobody uh premature. If I was coming at y'all, you wouldn't have to guess. And I'm never coming at y'all, we family.
SPEAKER_02Tell us with jail. So we're speaking with yeah, what's good?
SPEAKER_08It's RJ from Detroit.
SPEAKER_02What's up, man? Did you hear me? Where do you hear you? Where you calling from again? Detroit.
SPEAKER_06Okay.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, from Detroit, Michigan. Shout out to Detroit.
SPEAKER_02What's up, man? What's going on?
SPEAKER_08Hey, so I'm gonna be I'm gonna try to be quick. I'm outside, so I gotta get back in to work, but I just have a quick question for you.
SPEAKER_10Okay.
SPEAKER_08So I got an uncle. He did some time. I'm not exactly sure because it was like little kids. Like probably like 10 eleven. But I know he did uh like at least 10, like total. So he's been out for a while for my business, but um my grandma first probably like twelve years now. Everybody in my family kind of like uh you just said he just missed up. I'm trying not to give up on them trying to be like my family about Mr. Beyond specifically about me support and stuff like that. But so I was kind of just wondering what y'all think. Like I could do some like uh nephew, you know what I mean? I I don't want to make you feel a certain way, you know what I'm saying? Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Well, for me, what I would say first, what I'll say, what I would say firstly, his uh his position in your family and his position over over you is him, he he's your uncle. So that respect always has to has to be there first and foremost. So you always gotta respect him. Um now, if he's staying somewhere and and for 12 years and not keeping the job and all the different things, you know, and that's your grandmom or I believe it's his mom house, or that's your grandma maybe, um you gotta just allow them to work that out. You know what I'm saying? As long as you know it's it's not something that is hindering your grandma, you know, uh causing issues within within the family, which was causing issues with your grandma, you know, he's not harming your grandmom, I would just kind of you know just mind your business in regards to that. But if you can help him get a job, man, help him, you know, help him get on his feet, I would definitely continue to do that because at the end of the day, he's staying there because he's allowed to stay there for that for that um amount of time. You know, just try to keep the respect intact, man. I would just say that. And if you can't be supportive of him, help him try to find a job if so. But sometimes people that do a lot of time, if they come home and they're still not ready, it may take them 20 years to get ready, you know, or to get his mind right. You know what I'm saying? How you feel about it, young?
SPEAKER_06The same way. I uh uh uh I'll piggyback off everything you said, you was absolutely correct. Does that answer your question for you?
SPEAKER_08Yeah, yeah, yeah. I appreciate y'all, man. Yeah, because I was I've been thinking about that a lot because we all been talking about that like a subject, but but yeah, I've been thinking about that a lot just because that's something that's heavy on me. I know it's a lonely situation, nobody in my family knows what that's like. I'm gonna all I mean I try to give them some grace. But again, I appreciate y'all. I love what y'all doing, man. I can't make it to the live event, but next one y'all do. I'm gonna try to make it out there.
SPEAKER_02All right, for sure, man. I appreciate that, man. Thank you, man.
SPEAKER_08Yes, sir. Y'all take it easy.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, man. You know, some sometimes the uh the positions is it's a call coming in. Mm-hmm. Tell us the jealousy speaking with yo, what's up?
SPEAKER_09This is Leek from Philly.
SPEAKER_02What's up, Leek? Man, what's going on?
SPEAKER_09Hey yeah, listen. I'm just calling I got two quick questions. I'm gonna make it quick. Okay. But uh first of all, how y'all brothers doing?
SPEAKER_02Doing good, man. Chilling, man. What's up with you, you I?
SPEAKER_09Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm hanging in and listen, I'm actually watching the show now. Um, real quick though, first, it's a little off theme, but I respect you guys' maturity and and and y'all opinions and everything. But I got I got I got a little question as far as this women issues, you know. Me and my kids, mom, we've been together 15 years, but you know, like the accountability, man, she she lacks it, man. She can she can say whatever she wants to say to me. And then when I bring up something to try to correct her or say, well, listen, you know, just give her perspective or you know, or say, hey, you're wrong about this or that. Man, it's a different story, man. I can't say nothing about her. Nothing, man. She can she can fucking spill water on the floor or something and keep going. And if I say something, it's all hell of a break loose, you know what I'm saying? But yeah she she's gonna say everything in the book, everything under the sun to me. I'm all types of nut ass niggas, just that her every man in her life, brother, son, uncle, whoever, nobody there for their kids, none of that. I I we I've never not been with my kids, you know what I mean? I've been with her for 15 years, never not been with them. And like, how do you handle that, bro? Like, I feel like less of a man some days, man. Like, she believes me, she do all that type shit, and I handle business. And I ain't saying I'm perfect, but there's no real substantial convo when it comes to her as far as accountability. And I done took all accountability, but she don't take now one accountability for nothing. Like, how do I handle somebody like this?
SPEAKER_02Let me uh let me I just want you want you want you want to go, you want to handle this first?
SPEAKER_06No, no, no, you go ahead because you're more so good with the relationship.
SPEAKER_02All right, well, so my my thing is this uh always says all the time once a woman starts disrespecting you in a certain way, verbally, and and even with actions, she talks to you crazy, and and is it's it may be suppressed for for a certain period of time, whereas though it doesn't come out of her mouth, but it is always in her throat, waiting for something to happen. And if if it's if it's like that, no matter how much money you get, no matter how many chips you you buy, no matter if you uh uh you spend time with her, no matter if you treat her nice, no matter what, whenever something goes wrong, that's always gonna be right there. And if you can and if you can deal with it and keep and you can stay in a relationship with somebody, you can deal with it, you know. I say more power to you, but that's a sign of respect. And if a woman doesn't respect you, man, at some point you're gonna feel like you want to get away from her, man. You and you and and sometimes people can't get away in time and they may do do something crazy, they might put they end up putting their hands on them. So for me, I will always advise people when it when you're in a relationship when a woman is disrespectful, it's like that she talks to you any kind of way, uh, she mistreats you, she says certain things to you, like say she's mentioning other men and all that. She don't have no respect for you, bro. And it ain't never gonna change, man. It's I'm I'm sorry to say it, but it ain't never gonna change no matter how much money you get, no matter how much time you spend, no matter how much you try to turn a blind eye to it, you're gonna find yourself wanting to get out of there and get away from her. Especially you said she doesn't have any accountability. And sometimes women can think that they are the prize, they think that they're the prize, they think that they think that they that they're the they're the no you know that they they it there are some good women out here, you know, some good women. So they are some who are who are considered to be the prize. But when it comes to uh men, you know, uh a man, we set the tone in the household, bro. Set the tone in your household, man. And and I ain't trying to tell nobody walk away from their family, but you gotta make a decision of what you can deal with, bro. And if you are doing what you say you're doing as far as you know, you know, taking accountability, you are trying to assist her and be there for her, and she's still doing all this stuff, man. I I just you got you got a tough decision you want to make, but always put yourself first, it's just my opinion.
SPEAKER_09Right, right. And it'd be hard when you got I got four daughters, yeah. I know so it's hard by her, you know what I mean? So it's it's it's I tell people I'm not making excuses, but it ain't easy to just walk away. Like it ain't like it's hard, you know.
SPEAKER_02You don't always gotta walk away, walk away right away, man. You can just set the tone. Like, I'm not I'm not dealing with that. If you if you can't respect me, then we gotta make a decision. But you can never disrespect me. You gotta check her, like you can't let her just do just do it and then run behind her when she does something wrong. You know, you gotta stay firm as a man, man.
SPEAKER_09I'm being honest, sometimes I I I think I lose more control and power because it's like, you know what, after a while, you you get to a breaking point where it's like I scoop to her level, and it's like, all right, well, I'm gonna show you how I feel. I'm I'm gonna act how you act, and that shit don't work. And I and I constantly do it every time I fall for the trap. And I'm like, yo, I knew that wouldn't work, but I scoop to her level. I'm gonna start yelling, hollering back.
SPEAKER_02It ain't every time, but it's don't do it because then now your daughters are looking at you. Now your family looking at you like right, you in your army, because at the end of the day, man, you gotta understand your worth and your volume, man. Not saying she doesn't have any volume because, like I said, there are some good women that have worth and volume, but you gotta work look at your volume, man, and and and what you bring to the table, man. Understand that you are a man, bro.
SPEAKER_09Yo, man. And and and and real quick, one thing, like I felt what you said one episode. I forget the episode, but she was like, I think this when you're in black was talking about uh you know how when women get crazy, gonna put you out and all that, and you was like, yo, honestly, you just gotta keep two women. When one gets mad, go to the next one. She's gonna walk in you with open arms, she's gonna be happy. You there, you know? Like, yeah, yo, I really felt that though. Like, I mean, I felt like you need two women, but then sometimes that can be a headache, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_02I say this all the time, and my motto is having one is too close to having none.
SPEAKER_09And with a heavy, and that's with anything, income or anything.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but some people, and I'm saying it's good to have one woman, but sometimes you gotta, you know, you gotta set the tone. But I just tell you, man, think about yourself, man. Think about your freedom, think about your health, think about your mentality, think about them kids because it's them kids, see your woman disrespecting you, they're gonna disrespect you too, for sure.
SPEAKER_09I mean, I got girls, man. Yeah, that's we're already going through that.
SPEAKER_02But they'll disrespect you. They if they see your mom doing it, they're gonna do it. So, my this is my opinion. I would say nip it in the butt, man. But you know, enjoy your day, bro. And one more thing.
SPEAKER_09What one more thing, real quick. What what what can what can what can I expect? What can we expect on July 18th, man? Because I already got my tickets and I'm bringing her, unfortunately, trying to do something. You know, fireworks out the crib. And she's gonna enjoy it, but what can we expect for the 18th, man?
SPEAKER_02Fireworks, man.
SPEAKER_09Fireworks, man.
SPEAKER_02Fireworks is gonna be.
SPEAKER_09Any any any any any special guests to expect?
SPEAKER_02I mean, listen, man, we we're gonna we're gonna see when the eight the 18th, man.
SPEAKER_09All right, appreciate you, bro. Yeah, brothers, take care, man. You too. Hey, brother.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, man. You know, like the relationship thing is kind of is kind of sticky, it's kind of iffy, man, because we all been in uh abusive relationships sometimes, man. Not everybody, but most of you have been in abuse relationships because a man can be abused. A man, like I said, a man come home from jail, he's already been abused by the system, and then you may have some men that have been abused by just the neighborhood they've been brought up in, and it's you know, uh PTSD, and then you got a woman who's coming up in the household where as though she's been abused, had things going on, or she may have a bunch of relationships that was worthless, and then they carry that into the other relationships, man. Tell us from the jails we're speaking with.
SPEAKER_09What's happening, man? This is D from Atlanta.
SPEAKER_02From Atlanta, shout out to Atlanta. What's up, bro?
SPEAKER_09Man, I don't know what boy was on last time, man. He I think he low-key enjoyed that relationship. He bring the girl with her, he rewarding her for bad behavior. I don't I don't know if that's the move.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I was always told that, man. You know, you can't reward reward bad behavior, man. You can't do it. But you know, hopefully they they'll come there and get some insight, man. We'll be able to help them out. What's going on, bro?
SPEAKER_09I got two questions for black, man. What black and in all your experience and your years in prison and the time that you you know spent in there, how closely the the movies depict what you actually experienced, like orange that didn't go black or animal soft sink redemption prison break, all prison type movies. How closely do they will resemble your experience?
SPEAKER_02I mean he said it was American American Me, right? That was the It's night and day.
SPEAKER_06It's absolutely false. But the only thing that's true about uh uh uh the orange jumpsuits, uh is that shit is that shit is night and day. Don't believe nothing you see on TV. To experience the Pinot system, you have to walk it. I don't care. I don't care how many times I explain to y'all what's going on in there, how many times I give up the the the most degraving thing in there, you're still never going to get it until you walk it yourself.
SPEAKER_09Last question. I appreciate that answer. Yeah. And with all that experience, have you ever thought about like publishing a book or coming out with your own digital media, kind of painting a picture? Because it's one thing to have a pod and and to hear your words, but what about putting it on screen? Have you ever thought about that?
SPEAKER_06Um, I never thought about it, but I have a lot of people telling me and trying to promote me to do that. Like, man, you should write a book or you should do this or you should get in this. You got a hell of a story to tell. But I I never I didn't even think of this podcast. My brother did. I ain't never think, yo, man, let's throw the podcast tells from the jails. He like, man, you know what I mean? So my mind be on one trip, you know what I mean? I I got a different type of mind.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Hey man, don't don't peek over there not on duty, man. You be wild sometimes. Appreciate it.
SPEAKER_02All the time to me. Yeah, man. But me, I I'm already I'm already 10 steps ahead and I'm already been uh in contact with people trying to get this, get him to write this, get this book written. So I'm trying to, you know, do you want to what you gonna name it, man? Not on duty.
SPEAKER_09Not on duty.
SPEAKER_06All right, later. All right, man. Stay safe, man. Stay free.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, man. We're about to get up out of here, y'all. Hey, listen, man. We thank y'all for calling in. Thank y'all for uh supporting us, man. Thank y'all for being a part of the journey. Thank y'all for supporting us on Apple Podcasts. We are uh uh our podcast is actually in the top 10 of all podcasts around the world, man. So uh that's heavy for us to be able to do that, but we can't do it without y'all. Thank y'all for all the likes and the support. Thank y'all for tuning in with us, thank y'all for being there and make sure y'all be there at the live event on July 18th, man. We're gonna try to you know have a crazy, crazy time. Just to even just meet y'all, it's just major for us. So we just want to be able to meet the fans and meet the people that support us, man, so we can show love. Um anything you want to say, Mr. Jackson?
SPEAKER_06Stay free, man. Thank you. Thank it's hump day. We almost to the weekend, y'all. Think it's just that easy. One, two, three.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, y'all, man. Shout out to Dark Skin Beauty for sure, man. That's what we do for our brothers. And listen, y'all, man, I love y'all, man. I really do love y'all. I really do love the support. We do love everything, man. And I I say that from the bottom of my heart, man. We're gonna keep pushing. And um