TOP 5 PRISON RULES: TALES FROM THE JAILS LIVE !!!!

In this episode of Tales From the Jails LIVE, Braheem and Tawfiq break down the Top 5 Prison Rules that everyone behind bars is expected to understand. From respecting personal space and staying out of other people’s business to protecting your reputation, these rules can determine whether your time goes smoothly—or turns dangerous.

This conversation is based on real experiences, real consequences, and lessons learned inside the prison system.

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SPEAKER_07 6:08

TNS Media Group is the team and the family. I'm Tall Fig Page. This is my counterpart, Mr. Braheem Jackson. You know, want to thank everybody for tuning in. What's going on, Mr. Jackson?

SPEAKER_09 6:19

How you feeling today, man? It's great, man. Again, man, we got a disclaimer, man. We sit up here and we talk about real stories, real things, real, we have real people sitting on these couches up here that have been through real life experiences with the penitentiary. In no way, shape, or form are we promoting, glorifying, or saying this is a badge of honor prison. But what we are doing is bringing the awareness at an alarming rate for all you niggas and women out there cutting up and ready to go to jail. So if you do got to go to jail, which I don't knock, I had to go quite a few times before I finally got it right. But uh these are some tools that you can take from these conversations that we have to have you have a conductive stay in jail and make it home safely to your family if you ain't got life in there.

SPEAKER_07 7:02

Yeah, for sure. You know, um also I want to say y'all, listen, July 18th, man. We've got about a week away from the live event. Get your tickets down. The link is gonna be in the chat for you to get your tickets. Also, you can go to our Instagram uh page and you can click on the link and get your tickets there as well. Um, live event scheduled uh July 18th at World Cafe Live at 34th from Walnut. It's gonna be uh, you know, us uh doing our first our first live event. So I want to thank everybody for coming out. So, you know, as as you said, Mr. Jackson, you said that we don't uh glorify prison. We don't um you sit up here and and and say things that are false. Meant to entice individuals to want to go to prison. Because you know sometimes people can look at it, damn me, I want to go in there and see what that's like. You know, they want to see how it's like to make it what it's like to make it chi chi.

SPEAKER_09 7:55

Well, you might got some people that might want to do it.

SPEAKER_07 7:57

What it's like to get slapped in the face.

SPEAKER_09 7:59

You got some people that might want to go, you mean see if they can try their hand.

SPEAKER_07 8:02

Get your earphones taken from you.

SPEAKER_09 8:03

Yeah, because I heard a lot of things about prison before I went to prison, I still went. So talking wasn't enough for me. And it's not gonna be for a lot of the audience that follows us. But hopefully, if you do got to go to the penal system, you take some of the, you know, the knowledge that we gave you on how to navigate your way through them walls into this into society.

SPEAKER_07 8:24

Now, um, I know yesterday we did it, we talked about the most um the scare, the five scariest things that, you know, or five scariest things for people who uh go to prison, what they what they're scared of. Right. So today, let's talk about five main rules for individuals once you get there. Five rules you have to learn when you get there.

SPEAKER_09 8:48

I mean, it's basically, I'm saying you can make five rules if you want to.

SPEAKER_07 8:52

I'm saying the five, I'm saying the five most important, because it's certain certain things that's that's very important.

SPEAKER_09 8:56

Yes, but the the the it's only it's only one thing, man. But we you know, I see it's it's a lot of things. But that this is like a five things that's most important.

SPEAKER_07 9:05

But say, but you you could pick choose five instead of the top of the, you know, the top of the list. Because people ask me, what's the most what's the top five things I should know? You know what I'm saying? What to do and what not to do when I get here, you know.

SPEAKER_09 9:17

Mind your business is one.

SPEAKER_07 9:19

So why is it so important to mind your business? What like you know, like if you're not gonna be able to do more, somebody gets slapped like, yo, no, man, you shouldn't do that, man.

SPEAKER_09 9:25

You want to stop mic from no, no, you should never, no, no, no, you're never in there doing that. This is not society, this is not the world as you see it. This is a whole nother world, Top. You sitting over here on Bubblehead Lane. No, this is not yo, stop that, don't do that. You be the one getting smacked next. And then you know, you a man, so you're gonna have to, but you're into an altercation because you're minding them. If this ain't no friend of yours, nobody of nothing to you of significance, the best thing for you to do and the wise thing for you to do inside the penal system is to mind your business and keep on going. So it's you have instance where though the minding your business part is so strong that me and you can be sitting out there talking, and the faggots and start kiss well, people that's you know, homosexuals that that's into that activity, they'll start kissing right there on the side of our conversation. Men don't see out here, if men see that they're oh hickling, oh look at them over there kissing. No, that's a no-no, cuz. That's a no-no. Me and you be talking, and it'll be like somebody walking past us. We won't even be looking at them, and they feet away from us. Holding hands, yeah, holding hands, kissing, grabbing ass, whatever the case may be. Mind your business. That's why number one rule is if you don't walk past a man's cell and look in his cell.

SPEAKER_07 10:38

Okay, so that's no number one rule first, that's minding your business. Okay, yeah, but I'm just saying, because you know, that could be something else because it can lead to something else. But let's let's talk about that first, first and foremost, minding your business. Like I said before, you might see somebody getting the issue, slapped, you know what I mean, whatever, getting robbed. You won't step in there and say, Y'all, no, no, you shouldn't do that, man. Dang, the right thing to do.

SPEAKER_09 11:01

No, absolutely that's not a part of minding your business.

SPEAKER_07 11:04

That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_09 11:05

So you cannot do that. No, you cannot do that. You cannot do that under no circumstances unless this is a comrade, this is your walkie. Yeah, you know what I mean? You you got walkies in there, you develop good men that you walk with every day. You walk the when you sit here and somebody say that's my walkie, that's aka for this is a person that I walk the yard with every day. Okay, you know what I'm saying? So if it ain't that, be mind of your business. You see, we walk past men, see niggas getting stomped. One nigga by eight niggas stomped and stabbed. Niggas keep walking, niggas don't say nothing. Don't nobody stop, look, nothing. Only thing happens is it get quiet. That's it. But ain't nobody going over there. You don't see niggas gawking at it, drawing, no, all that is tipping and cause for you to get into an altercation if you're doing that. Niggas playing dominoes, look back and see the fight, go right back. Yeah, draw four.

SPEAKER_07 11:51

But you look back and let look around, make sure all your guys are.

SPEAKER_09 11:54

Yeah, exactly. After that, it's right back to where we're going. That's the issue.

SPEAKER_07 11:57

It's like it's never even happening.

SPEAKER_09 11:59

Reason being because you never know what started the altercation, the person who's the hell with but regardless if you knew what started it or not. Mind your business if this ain't your people. Regardless if you knew why, if you didn't know why, the case it fuck all that. Mind your business. That's just it. Ain't no, you need a reason. Oh, or they ain't my people. So let me no. That's the only thing you looking for. Or they ain't my folks, all right. Cool. It become my business if this is my fit, my friend.

SPEAKER_07 12:25

I just want to say something too, y'all. For um, those who are new listeners to uh tell us from the jails, we are live Monday through Friday, you know, uh at between 5 30 and 6 p.m., we go live every day, Monday through Friday. We are available uh for our lives. So now for those who don't honor the rule of minding their business, is it ever a pass given? Like, oh this is the first time you do first time you but it's a passion.

SPEAKER_09 12:50

No, that's one thing about jail. You don't get passes. You don't get passes. If you're running over there and you worried about, yo, why y'all doing that to him? Ain't nobody giving you a pass for that. You in the situation there. No, they know you're new to the prison. I don't give a fuck. You in here. You in here. This is how you're gonna get indoctrinated. You don't get indoctrinated with a lecture. Yo, don't do that unless it's coming from your homies. And say you over there, like, yo, what's going on over there? I'm right, go break that up. Niggas gonna check you right here. You better not. You better mind your business. But if you go straight to the scene, they're not giving you no passes. Why you in my business, cuz? Like if you walk a past looking in a nigga's cell, what's up, hom?

SPEAKER_07 13:27

You know somebody in here? What's that no passes? Okay, that should that should be a second rule because don't don't look into nobody's cell. That's minding your business. But but I'm saying it's a it's a separate category because now it could be considered minding your business, but it is not because it's a rule.

SPEAKER_09 13:43

If you're looking in someone else's cell, you're minding your business. Yes, it is. I mean you just you know no, that's minding your that's not minding your business. You're looking at someone's else's business. But you might say, like, oh, the next cell got a nice floor in it. Yeah, but you're mine regardless if you're doing it or not, that's minding someone's else's business. I would I would probably like to say that, but you you'll probably get knocked out. So that you you would be the one that I gotta be in there to because you're gonna fight, but you can't be, I gotta I gotta be in there and school you to the shit. You'll go in there and get knocked out your first weekend, first day in.

SPEAKER_07 14:13

All right, so DN, FDI. So listen, what I'm saying to you is if you don't want to buy looking in your cell and close your cell door, wouldn't that be the logical thing to do?

SPEAKER_09 14:24

Yeah, that'd be the logical thing to do, but still. Like so, so clearly you open the door like this is his property. Everything from the cell to the front of his cell is his property. So I gotta walk with my head straight looking straight like I'm in the military. Yes, yes. These are the rules of the city. I can't even like yo. If you're going in there to talk to him, yeah, then you're going in there conducting some business that you wanted. But if you walk past the you because why that is in place, right? Because now you don't become a suspect. Meaning, if you walk past earlier, say you walk past, I had the door open, and I might have been showing my man some weed I got in the cell. And I look up you looking. I'm like, damn, why bull fucking looking at myself? My business. Half hour later, the police come to myself, which happens. That's a shakedown. We got reason to believe y'all got weed. Whole time you ain't you the bull walk past and look, but you ain't never told the police nothing. Now you just made yourself an issue. Now I'm in the cell thinking, like, yo, man, only that nigga that walked past early seen me with it. Yeah. Whole time you didn't even say nothing though. This is why it's important to mind your business.

SPEAKER_07 15:23

So, but I'm saying these will be first day in first day in rules, yo, bro. Mind your no, that's forever. Don't look at nobody's cell. Uh but that's all falls underneath mind your business. What about this thing they say, like, you know, you had the thing that you said, you're leaving the honey bundle center your bed.

SPEAKER_09 15:37

Don't take the honey bottle. No, no, no, I never said that. Because that's not true. Okay. That's not true. You could go pick candy bars, all the candy, but that's a myth in jail. You leave a hand. I never heard about it on one of the videos. Yeah. Because that's I'm telling you, it was a myth. That's what I said about. It was a myth. I'm not saying like it go down. I've never seen nobody leave a piece of candy on a nigga's cell bed. I never seen that in prison. And I've been in there the majority of my life. I ain't never heard like, yo, Don Don left a candy bar on uh rail bed. Fuck no, that's some shit that you said. It's a myth. Niggas ain't in there doing that. Yeah. Nigga coming to you asking if you want to suck some dick. That's it. Yeah, I mean that nigga, there ain't no, I'm finessing you with a that's some old back in the day jailhouse myth, bro. Ain't nobody leaving no candy bars. Nigga walk up to you and grab that junk, like, what's up with you, cuz? If he thinks you on that, then that's what you gotta worry about. But everything falls if like when you walk walking past looking at somebody's cell, this could benefit you. So this rule is in place to save you. Because by you looking at him, like I just explained to you, by you looking in the man's cell, you might have walked past with him and his man in there, and he's showing him, but they got their bet, even though they know you ain't see, but they know they doing breaking law. But they know they seen you looking in the cell. So, what would you expect if you one of them men? I walk past, you y'all doing a weed transaction, you looking, you make eye contact with me. So that means I'm looking in your cell. But I keep walking. Half hour later, police running in your cell. You done had weed for three months and they never had no disruptions with it. What you gonna think? I think that you know that nigga that walked past my cell looking in too. For sure. So these are why these rules are in place to keep you safe, man. That's it. It ain't no, this ain't nothing rock and silence about this. This is one, two, three, bro.

SPEAKER_07 17:17

All right, is it any commissary rules for the inmates? Like, yo, this though, listen, don't take this commissary, don't have your commissary here. Is it any rules like I'm saying? Or or a cell rule, which is a number one, what's what's the number one cell rule for when you're moving into a cell with somebody?

SPEAKER_09 17:33

What is the see, but it all depends on who you move in with. I might move in with you. You know it ain't no rules for that cell.

SPEAKER_07 17:38

It's my own nose, because normally not somebody I tell you moving in with smiley don't know.

SPEAKER_09 17:41

If somebody you don't know, you don't go on that man's property at all, unless he gives you permission. Okay, so vice versa. It's a two-way street. You don't go on that man's property, you don't sit on no man's bed, you don't sit on no man's bed. That's a rule in jail. You like a n like if you see a nigga come in and sit on a nigga bed, you see how the bit the bed is like this. You see how this is like a mattress. This is the mattress, and this is the frame. It's how it is in jail. If a nigga do sit on a nigga bed, he'll go like this. And that's respect. Lift the mattress up. Yeah, and sit on the frame. That's what they do in jail. I don't just come in yourself. So that's the rule. That's the rule.

SPEAKER_07 18:16

So listen, so when you when you go in somebody's cell, lift the mattress up, don't sit on the spring. No matter how I'm sorry, sit sit on the metal, the metal flat bit. But I just want to go back real quick about the looking in the cell um um aspect, right? Right. So so suppose I walk past, look at somebody's cell, and they say, Yo, why are you looking in here? They got a problem, and I can say, Oh no, my bad and keep moving, or is it you can do that?

SPEAKER_09 18:35

Okay, you can do that like that, my fault.

SPEAKER_07 18:37

Making that mistake, man. Let me look at it as a commerce saying on my bad.

SPEAKER_09 18:40

No, you look at it as a man.

SPEAKER_07 18:41

Okay.

SPEAKER_09 18:42

You look at it as a man, like that my fault, bro. I don't walk past contact with a nigga, and then you see what a nigga on by a body verbal, uh, non-verbals, non-verbal is facial expressions and stuff. I might catch a contact with an eye contact with a nigga, he might be like, That means the fuck is you looking at? Damn, my fault, bro. I'm I'm I'm he be like, uh, but that's my that my fault, bro, is acknowledging. Yo, I ain't doing no bullshit.

SPEAKER_07 19:06

All right, so I'm gonna say this though. Say, is my cell? You walk past, look at my cell, we get eye contact, but I don't ain't saying that to you. I just put like my head down.

SPEAKER_09 19:15

That's you.

SPEAKER_07 19:15

But I'm saying, is that like a sign of a uh you of being a coward?

SPEAKER_09 19:19

What of you doing that?

SPEAKER_07 19:20

Like, say I'm in my cell, you walk past it.

SPEAKER_09 19:23

D you think you're a weird shit. It's not a weird question. This is this.

SPEAKER_07 19:26

This is you not a coward. Hear what I'm saying. Hear me what I'm saying. If if I'm in my cell, right? Right, and I'm in there and you walk past and look in my cell, yes, and I don't say nothing or check it. Is it something like all about? He he he's no. Okay, so what okay? I'm just want to make sure.

SPEAKER_09 19:42

You just say you got the men that do that though. Like, what the fuck is you looking at? Because the nigga you walk, the nigga you just said is gonna say he might not be breaking law. Nine times out of ten, the men that's aggressive on why you looking at my cell, they breaking law.

SPEAKER_07 19:53

Okay, well say that down. Let me say it. So everybody don't everybody don't react to somebody looking in their cells. Not always a reaction for everybody looking at yourself, but it's a rule. Okay, I'm gonna say it's a rule.

SPEAKER_09 20:03

It's a rule, but you're right. Everybody don't react to force. Everybody got your chomos and all that, they don't react to nothing. You go in there cells and smack the shit out of them and keep it pushing. So they ain't never worried about we go in chomo cells. What you were here doing, they be in the most of the time. Chomo stay is uh aka for child molester. They sit in the cell all day and read books. They don't want to be out in the commonary and you know, niggas be carrying them. We might got want to smoke some weed. We don't want to smoke it's a dickhead police working. He be running, he a head hunter. He running around, he running around to see what's going on. We might go to this nigga's cell, like yo, let's lose the cell, get out the cell for a half hour. He'll go sit in the common and read his book. We in there, we do the sign up, we in there blowing his whole cell up. We ain't even in the vents or nothing, we just smoking. We open up the door, just leave out. Niggas done went in his locker, ate some snacks and all that shit. Damn. So that's how the shit go.

SPEAKER_07 20:50

Wow. All right, so let's go back to uh the other topic you said, like as far as another rule is don't sit on a man's mattress.

SPEAKER_09 20:58

Unless it's a comrade of yours. Like you can get that off with like if it was me and you, I can come in there and sit on you.

SPEAKER_07 21:03

No, you can't.

SPEAKER_09 21:04

All right, well, that's cool. You probably want to let that. What you just did in this bathroom, man? Oh, well, yeah, but that's cool right there too. Yeah, I'm I'm but I'm just saying, for for a better, like for serious. Like I can sit on your bed. You can sit on my bed, it won't be no problem. But if it's niggas you just meet you got a rapport with and you going in there to ask them something where he had, you don't sit on the main bed.

SPEAKER_07 21:22

To lift the matches up and sit on the frame. Wow. And that's a sign of respect.

SPEAKER_09 21:27

Yes, that's that's the utmost sign of respect.

SPEAKER_07 21:29

That's a rule.

SPEAKER_09 21:30

Yes.

SPEAKER_07 21:30

That's a rule, yes. All right. Um other rule, shower rules. What's what's like a shower, number a shower rule? Like when you when you go to the showers, what is something like like oh listen, when you go to showers, you get this is a rule, do this.

SPEAKER_09 21:42

Don't look at no don't look over nobody's star while they but that that's not even a rule, that's self explained, right?

SPEAKER_07 21:47

But it might be a rule or something.

SPEAKER_09 21:48

Yeah, but that's not a rule. Okay, well that's a rule, that's something that that's like breathing. A rule like where wear your boots to the shower, but don't yeah, because you're gonna get told that coming on the yard from your men. Okay. Yeah, we ain't in here doing no kids. Um this ain't no We ain't got no shower shoes on at no part of the day. Only time you wearing shower shoes is when that door locked. Now you got niggas that do it, but them niggas is jokes. They really ain't on shit. Mm-hmm. You be sitting there nine times out of ten, you end up seeing him getting slapped somewhere along his journey during the prison. Ain't no man sitting there in the common area with his shower shoes on, just kicking it, making bowls, playing cards with his feet out.

SPEAKER_07 22:20

And if you come out looking like that, like yo, this is he, you know.

SPEAKER_09 22:23

You already judged by your character in there. You could be a cold-blooded killer, and I see you over there. I'm like, oh, this nigga's a fucking punk. This nigga out here with his shower shoes. But the whole time you a killer. But a killer ain't gonna conduct itself in that manner inside that environment.

SPEAKER_07 22:35

And and wearing wearing your um your shoes. You said people wear their boots in the shower or they should with the shower shoes in the shower.

SPEAKER_09 22:43

They wear their boots to the shower with their shower shoes in their hand. Okay. Then you have sometimes you have some dudes that had a pair, got shower boots. They done stole the pair or got a pair of boots from, like, say you left the jail, you're supposed to turn your boots back into laundry, the boots that the jail give you, jailhouse issue boots.

SPEAKER_05 22:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 22:58

But I'm you might wear the same, say if you transfer and me and you sell these. I'm like, yo, let me get these boots, bro. Don't turn them join. So now I got two pairs of boots. Because everybody get issued a pair of boots.

SPEAKER_07 23:08

Okay.

SPEAKER_09 23:08

So I might use one, my walk around joints, and these my shower joints.

SPEAKER_07 23:12

So the shower shoes prevent you from slipping and sliding there. You fight and get into a fight.

SPEAKER_09 23:15

You said the shower shoes.

SPEAKER_07 23:16

Yeah. You mean the boots? The boots, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_09 23:19

Yeah, the boots, yeah. The boots will give you more traction than the shower shoe will.

SPEAKER_07 23:23

Okay.

SPEAKER_09 23:24

Yeah, all day long. You don't think so?

SPEAKER_07 23:26

Yeah, for sure. Yeah. For sure. So the like like so that that's a rule, man. Make sure you got your shoes on when you go take a shower.

SPEAKER_09 23:34

Yeah, yeah, all not just when you take a shower at all times.

SPEAKER_07 23:36

So how do you wash your feet?

SPEAKER_09 23:37

Just let the you just No, you would take one out at a time. Okay. Then put your foot back in that motherfucker. Take the other one out, wash it. But you still ready than more ready for combat than you would be with just shower shoes. So this might be there. Somebody be in there just. But nine times out of ten. But I done seen it a bunch of times. I seen niggas come for niggas in the shower. Nigga be out there, ass hanging balls, swinging soap everywhere. And he coming right out, getting into that shit. You got it. What you gonna do? Oh, please stop. No, it's time. Party time. But now when you in these violent penitentiaries or FCIs, federal-wise, because I only can give you fit, but I'm quite sure they do it in these violent steak junes. Yeah. You got men that'll walk to the shower with you.

SPEAKER_07 24:18

What you mean?

SPEAKER_09 24:19

Meaning like if you was going to the shower and it was up, like say we just got them beefing with a group, but it's we kind of like solved it a little bit, but you don't trust the next man that ain't gonna trust us.

SPEAKER_10 24:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 24:28

Like you're not gonna be at the shower by yourself. While you at the shower with your boots and shit on and you in there, I'm outside the shower just kicking it with you. Like, yeah, man, such and such and such and such, yeah, such and such and such until you've done your shower. Then you get the shower, make sure you get you cool. Because being in the shower is your most vulnerable, vulnerable state besides being asleep. But being asleep, if you ain't sleep with the doors open, you pretty much safe. So the shower would be number one, vulnerability. Your asshole naked with much and you're on all wetness. So it's all get uh a language for you to slip, you're naked. You know, you got some niggas, they got little ass dick, so they try to hide the dick instead of fighting. Like, don't hide the dick, nigga. It's time to get in there. Like for real.

unknown 25:09

For real.

SPEAKER_09 25:09

You're talking about not on duty, we on some real life shit. Yeah, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_07 25:12

So that's the first thing somebody thinks of, they think about getting stabbed.

SPEAKER_09 25:15

Like, damn, everybody gonna see this little motherfucker. So he he he cuffing this while they cuffing his face. You know what I mean? Like, nah. So a person to be see, all you want to do is play and laugh, man. This shit is serious, man. This is not a laughing matter, though, Tophy. You gotta take this serious a little bit.

SPEAKER_07 25:30

Yeah, but ask the question. So listen, somebody just busted to the shower, right? Dolph Duty, he is trying to attack you with a knife. And instead of instead of trying to protect himself, he just grab his problem.

SPEAKER_09 25:41

Yeah, go ahead, move on, man. What's the next one you want to talk about, man? Because all you want to do is sit up here and laugh. These are the rules, man, that you gotta play in that penal system, man. It's a whole nother ball game from this outside world. This whole butt it's a whole nother set of laws that you gotta follow. The laws that you know that exist out here in society, go ahead and delete that from your mind until you get back to society because you got a whole nother roller decks rolling out in front of you. Like I said, one of the rules is you don't fart around a nigga. Out here, you got niggas play the fart game. They want, they know they shit stinking. He done fart it earlier. He knows his way in. Where is that place? Is that is that top five? Yeah, that's top five. You fucking right. You goddamn right. You sitting around the men, we all in the TV room eating bowls, watching the game tonight. You in the back, burn. Oh, yeah, that's cause for you to get fucked up. So what so that that was. But something is something is something farting is is natural, that's nature. It might be a silent joint, nobody don't hear. But that's cool, but you still don't put yourself in that type of junk.

SPEAKER_05 26:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 26:42

You know what I'm saying? Then you putting yourself in there opening up lanes for damn, that's a mating call. Who did that? Now you sitting there quiet. Now you don't want you you you had the heart to fart, but now you don't want to say it was me. Because that nigga in the back go, who did that? That's a mating call. Yeah, if you never did that, you'd never be getting put out there like that now. You don't fart around men in prison. Wow. All right, what about what's what's a rule for dealing with the guards?

SPEAKER_07 27:07

Like a rule, like artists.

SPEAKER_09 27:08

A rule when you're dealing with the guards in the federal system, like FCIs and penitentiaries and some loaves carry like that, like Fort Dix carry it like that. When I was there, Fort Dix is a low that's very violent. And a rule with dealing with the guards is say if I say if the guard got done handing out mail. So when the guard handed out mail during the day, he'd be like, mail call. He'd come to the front of the block, they got a big ass USP bag that you dump all the mail out on the table so everybody come out their cells and shit and sing around this guard, the whole block. So he'd just be calling out names, Jackson. And I might be back here. So the guard would give it to a motherfucker, they'll pass it all the way back to me. Oh, Anthony, they'll pass that back to you. Now say I was at work when he passed it out mail. I come up, the guard, like whoever didn't get their mail doing mail call, he'll go in there and write down all the names that got mail. And he'll tape it outside the office door. So I'll come up and look at the list, mail list. Like, damn, I got some mail. I won't just walk in there and ask him for my mail. I'll probably go get my homie, like, yo, walk me in here while I go get my mail from the police. Why to save your name? Meaning anything could happen, meaning you might have just gone into this police office and you in there by yourself. You might have took your mail, he might have asked you a question, and you was in there for about a minute or two. He comes out, go to a nigga's cell. Oh, well, he do he's doing his job, and shake down and find a knife. Now, nigga, like, damn, man, he came right out as soon as Tor Feet came out of his office and came in my cell. Now, the reason why you take somebody, you got a witness.

SPEAKER_07 28:34

Exactly.

SPEAKER_09 28:34

No, he went there and grabbed his mail, I was right there with him. So it's better. Now I got two people to collaborate my story, me and somebody else. Whereas by I'm by myself, uh, now I'm leaving the guessing part up. It's my word against their word. And a nigga is gonna blame you, like, yo, man, soon the police he just walked out the office and the police, that's how I be happening, fucked up. It be happening like that sometime. And a nigga up hit that on you. So the rule is you don't go talk to no police by yourself. That's the safeguard you. Wow. What about chow hall rule? What's the rule in the chow hall? Oh, chow hall rule, you got tables. You got tables. I'm only giving y'all federal. I only I've been I'm a federal convict. Been to the state, but the county bid, I ain't never went up state. Um, federal, we have our tables. You got Philly table, you got New York table, you got Jersey table, you got Spanish table, like gang members, MS-13, you might got Pisces over here, which is Mexican, white, dirty white boys over there, A-Bs over there. It's about 50 to 60 tables in a child hall. You might got the Crips over there, the bloods over there. You don't sit in nobody else's section.

SPEAKER_07 29:40

You understand what I'm saying? You're no, I'm listening, I'm listening to saying I'm listening, I'm just checking something. Go ahead, go ahead. So, so the rule would be not to sit at a table that's not for you. That's not that's not what you're doing.

SPEAKER_09 29:52

That's not, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_07 29:53

So that and and now what happens if I go sit at somebody else's table? Is it but I'm reasonable asking is is it like oh that was that was a mistake? And I mean my bad, I get a pass. Yeah, you get a pass at first.

SPEAKER_09 30:03

Motherfucker be like, yo, where you from, huh? Oh, I'm from uh Philly. Oh, Philly niggas or it might be Philly niggas sit over there, or Pennsylvania's niggas sit over there, or majority of Philly niggas that come in the feds is Muslim. So you got a Muslim table too. Oh, the Muslims sit over there, huh? But niggas look at Philly niggas and automatically assume they Muslim. You might have some Muslim some Philly niggas that's not Muslim, but you already get that label because so many of us come through the federal system that it is Muslim. You ain't you ain't got that like that out of a bunch of cities, Chicago, they all GDs down south. You know what I mean? It's Islam in them certain parts of the city. I mean, they cities, but not in abundance like how it is in Philadelphia.

SPEAKER_07 30:42

Hey, listen, um, Dark Skin Beauty had a good question. She said, uh, hasn't any gang tried to recruit you during your bid? No, the only gang that recruited me was Philly.

SPEAKER_09 30:50

Okay. We was in our own gang. All right. Well, it wasn't like I was in there standing by myself. I'm 066. 066 is all Philly. Anybody you see with a number, the numbers getting so so many people going to jail now that they got a new Philly number now. Something like that? It's something like that. But it's not just if you see a nigga with an 066 number, that's how you know he's an old nigga in the feds. Meaning he's been here for a while. They own a whole nother new number, three numbers. And that is like DC was the only, one of the only cities that got like three different numbers. They get they 007, 019, something. But so all my DC fans and everybody out here watching, uh go ahead and uh and text in a group chat all three of y'all numbers, the three last numbers. But they got three different numbers. But that they numbers let them know what kind of case they got. Because you have DC dudes is in there that got state time, but they don't have no state prison. They housed in federal. They go see parole boards and all that. They go on every like they like they was, but they're doing it in this in the feds. Does that make sense? It makes a lot of sense. Yeah, so that's why they got three different numbers. So now the ones was the 007, I think, is federal DC inmates. The other number is state DC inmates, but housed in federal facilities.

SPEAKER_07 32:04

It's like a rule where it's though, like if I don't want my tray, I can give it to somebody from another group, or should I ask people that's in my group first who want it?

SPEAKER_09 32:12

No, no, you ask your men first.

SPEAKER_07 32:13

Okay.

SPEAKER_09 32:14

Unless you gotta, like, because you're not you see, one thing about me after I got off my geographical stage, and geographical meaning means to be biased to anybody that's not from Philadelphia. Once I figured out that they didn't just make thorough niggas in Philadelphia, because I was underneath the guise at a young age, that only Philly niggas is fly. We the flyest niggas in the world. We talk the best, we got the baddest bitches in the city. Can't nobody outdoors, we rumble with the best. Nah, I was sadly mistaken. Boy, they got niggas better than us all over the country. All over the country. I got so many homies, man, that's not from Philly, that's cold-blooded men. So once I got out of that, I might see a couple. Now, Nil, you could come to my table if I invite you to my table, if one of the Philly niggas do. Like, say if I'm at the table and I see you, you from DC, and you're table full. I might be like, Toffee, come on, come on over here and sit down. It's an invitation. You just can't do it under your own. I mean, I'm gonna go over here and sit over here. It ain't no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, you ain't doing that.

SPEAKER_07 33:13

Um, any uh any uh yard rules, like a rule for the yard. Like this is number one rule in the yard. You don't do this. Thank you, thank you. The cameras is extraordinary, ain't they y'all? But go ahead. Yeah. Um, he said, um, so I said, is it any uh any yard rule, like a rule for the yard? Like when you're in the Fez, like is it a yard rule?

SPEAKER_09 33:32

Like, I don't do this, or you can't do that, or uh a yard rule is pretty much people want a yard is a rec yard. So, you know, like when I was out in California, the Mexicans was trying to make a push to where as though the blacks can't come out there to the fields at the five o'clock count. Because they wanted to be out there playing soccer all the time. So we like, nah, y'all just not brody in the yard. This for all of us. Now we could come up with a, we'll come up with a agreement where as though y'all can get it this first half, we get it this half, and now that's when it's making the things even more separated. Yeah. You understand what I'm saying? Like, oh no, no, the Mexicans over there on the football field right now, and they get off at three o'clock. Then when the niggas got it. Because they not gonna come over there and bob us while we on it. One thing about them Mexicans, Mexicans and white boys, niggas is always the one that do something to cause a war. It never be them. Not to my knowledge. I'm not saying that they won't do nothing, jump out there and get knocked out, and then we gotta go to war with the white boys or the Mexicans or something. No, but the majority of the time it's going down is because the black did something. They just stand up for themselves.

unknown 34:27

Wow.

SPEAKER_09 34:28

Like you got a gang in there called Paisa, which is Mexicans. Paiser only means, and that's not really a gang. They just had the band together because they was getting taken advantage of so much in the feds that they had to Paisa mean country man. That's all Paiser means in Spanish. Yeah. And they all came together like, man. What was uh punto? What's that mean? A punta, I don't know a bitch or something like that. Punta and all that. Punta, all that shit. Yeah, yeah. You need to learn some of that too if you go to the feds. Because if you go on that west coast, you done smack down the grazing. No, no. I ain't really get called too many. I still don't business in there, cuz whether you really want to believe it or not, but the men that know me, I was out my goddamn mind. I was mad as shit at the world. And then I had to cool out in there because I got tired of going to lockup, I got tired of going to gang programs. I did 24-month lockdown straight. You know what I'm saying? 23 and one.

SPEAKER_07 35:16

Yo, um, another thing I gotta ask you, a day room rule or a TV rule. Because I know that's that's where it goes where it goes crazy. It was a day room rule.

SPEAKER_09 35:24

The TV room, you don't cut and cross nobody's TVs.

SPEAKER_07 35:26

You can't walk past, like if I'm watching, we just walk right back.

SPEAKER_09 35:28

Like, yeah, walk, no, you walk around. That's a rule. Like the tables in the day room, you walk around the tables, you don't cut between nobody. That's disrespect. Because we don't know who you is. I don't know if you want to get behind me to put a knife in me or to lock a sock on my head. You know what I'm saying? How you saying I don't do that? So put a knife in me.

SPEAKER_07 35:45

Get behind you. All right, so so when we're sitting down watching TV, you can't walk past TV. What about like, you know, changing the channel while everybody watching it? Come on, Fix. Certain things you ain't got to ask.

SPEAKER_09 35:55

You could go on to a better question. That you know, you know you can't do that, bro. Okay. You're gonna go a bunch of grown men sitting here watching, you walk up and change it. What do you think?

SPEAKER_07 36:03

I'll actually this. How do how do people decide what's what they're gonna watch?

SPEAKER_09 36:06

Everybody come to agreement before the TVs come on. What we watch, but see, niggas have already made a big, but by the time you get to that jail, it's an agreement in place about these TVs. It ain't nothing, it's a protocol you gotta follow. Niggas have a whole schedule up. Sundays we watching all football from this time and this time. The news come on at 10 o'clock in the morning from this time, just where it don't be no fights.

SPEAKER_07 36:26

Okay, so you gotta follow that protocol. So that's the rule. Yo, listen, you the TV rules are right here. Yes, but don't go on here touching that, touching that remote. See, like changing it around the street.

SPEAKER_09 36:33

Like, see, when you in California, the TVs is delegated area, but the Mexicans got the most TVs. It might be six TVs or eight TVs on the block. Mexicans might got three. You don't the blacks don't never touch them TVs. You don't never touch a TV unless it's a black TV. The blacks might got two TVs. They are TVs to control. Wow. Every other TV you touch that TV is an issue.

SPEAKER_07 36:54

Hey, listen, so what is what what if what are they watching? You know what I mean? Like, I guess you I know you says already already discussed, but suppose, you know, the Cowboys or the Eagles is playing, and the same time you got the Lakers and the Celtics playing or something like that. So, but but black people we like to watch sports. Yeah. How do we decide between them? No, that come on.

SPEAKER_09 37:13

You got two TVs. One of them is a sports TV. The only time that turns into something other than a sports TV is like when like when you got a dull moment. Like a doll moment for sports, right, will be uh right at the uh uh uh basketball season end. So now you got baseball and hockey and soccer and all that shit. You got people to still look at that, but not more so like basketball and football. So nigga might put a movie on there and be agree with everybody, oh man, ain't nothing but some goddamn badass baseball game on. Nigga might put it on a movie. But as a rules, you just don't go up there flicking that motherfucker.

SPEAKER_07 37:44

All right. Let's get oh, I want to go back to the rec yard because I know we I say rec yard, but because in a rec yard it's individual places. It's the basketball court, you got a tennis ball court, weight pile, if they got a weight pile to track. All right, so I'll go through each one because people, this these questions that have been posed through emails and so forth and so on. So what's a basketball court rule? What's a rule in the basketball court? What you mean? There's not no rule in the basketball court. Ain't no rule go out there and play basketball. Okay, so ain't no rule, and you ain't no uh ain't no rule. Like, you know, like um No, it's not, it's not it's people looking too deep into shit. No, it ain't no rule. Is it make it, take it, meaning I'm duty? If it if I score, I get the game. Okay.

SPEAKER_09 38:19

No, the same rules. If you're playing five on five, the same thing. Oh, it's full court. So it's full court.

SPEAKER_07 38:23

Okay, it's full court there.

SPEAKER_09 38:24

Niggas playing full court basketball, same rules on the street. What about the weights? No slamming the weights and I'm saying no, but the niggas in there who work in the weight room is making up the rules in there, meaning, like you might see because there's so many niggas to jail, they won't have that many weights. So people have slots by your five o'clock, Philly niggas coming here for this set right here. Six o'clock, DC niggas come in for the weights. Seven o'clock, New York niggas come in. You get you pitch your time slotted. Okay. So you just can't, because you might go and niggas be in there deep as shit, like, damn. But yo, Philly niggas coming up at six o'clock. Y'all got the weights at six. You know what I'm saying? So it's it's different is real, you know what I mean? It ain't like out here, bro. You ain't got abundance of gym wizard. You got all this equipment. They got a small little, they might got five sets of dumbbells. They got one dumbar, one barbell with just you know 45 plates, but it's only for like two, three, so you everybody gotta get their turn.

SPEAKER_07 39:13

Wow. So it's it's it's it's uh many rules and uh in in the federal pen and in the state pen. There's many rules, but it just uh uh just a mat just matters what arises. I mean, when this happens, that's how you deal with this. I mean, um another question I got. Uh what's the what's a rule for if it's a riot in the jail? Like no, like is there a race?

SPEAKER_09 39:35

There is no rule, there is no rule if it's a if it's a riot, if you ain't involved in a riot, your city or nothing like that, you get the fuck out the way. That's the only rule. Yeah, I mean, niggas is like, oh, who that? Oh, that's the black, that's the blacks and motherfucking Mexicans getting in it. Unless it's an all-out riot with everybody involved. I mean, that's a race riot. Now, if it ain't a race riot, two cities at each other, niggas are standing there and just being rugged around the wall just watching y'all work. Oh, them niggas over there working.

SPEAKER_07 40:03

Wow. And just because they they riot and the whole jail still suffers.

SPEAKER_09 40:07

You goddamn right. We think no, these niggas out here stabbing each other, hitting each other with locks and socks. Once they get that under control and get them out, y'all still gonna stay on lockdown because we want to punish y'all in case any of y'all thinking about doing something crazy after we let y'all off lockdown.

SPEAKER_07 40:23

Wow. Yeah, I'm I'm interested. Okay, uh, another thing too. Um what's a uh like a bathroom rule, like you know, using the toilet rule. What's a rule for using the toilet?

SPEAKER_09 40:34

And then another thing I'm gonna go back to, I'm I'm gonna go back to the weights. Yeah. And make sure you remember what you already asked me just now. The weights, like the niggas govern them so hard in there, like the niggas that work in the weight room. If you break one of them weights, man, you likely to get knocked out. Like if you all Joe, and you know, you gotta, they don't, you know, some niggas just drop them. No, niggas are probably all. That's what I just say. That's what I just say. Don't drop the weights. No, no, no, no, don't do that because if you break them, they don't replace them. That's how they keep getting smaller and smaller, because things get broke, they just take the weights out and put them on the truck and get them off the com pan.

SPEAKER_07 41:06

The guards. So they never replace no weights?

SPEAKER_09 41:07

Fuck no. No, they ain't replacing that. That's terrible, man. So you gotta treat this precious. You race, you lowering it down, you you getting just to lay it there. Dang, all right, cool, it's cool. You know what I'm saying? So yeah, niggas, niggas, that's niggas' lives in there though. Niggas love them weights, bro. Niggas will die about them weights, man. You'll have a riot going on outside the weight room, and niggas will get hip inside the weight room. Like, what's going on out there? Because you know when it's a riot, niggas is looking for weapons, and they the first place a nigga try and run to is the weight room to grab a dumbbell or something to bang you in the head with.

SPEAKER_07 41:37

You know what I'm saying? Uh street under underscore syndicates, not on duty. So um, listen, uh, the question I asked you, um, oh, the the bathroom rules, using the toilet in the cell rules. What's the number one rule for using the toilet in the cell? Well, if you in the cell with a motherfucker, no, I'm saying, even if I ain't in there, I'm not, I you I might you might be using the bathroom, why I ain't there. Well, it's not no rule for a toilet. So I don't like these questions because there ain't no rules for stuff like this. Can I stand up and pee? Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 42:04

If you ain't Muslim, you can stand up and pee. You because this is not something that you practice.

SPEAKER_07 42:08

Okay, what about it? I just fill it without what do I like?

SPEAKER_09 42:11

I just Oh, a bowel movement, you gotta flush that. You can't fill a toilet up. See it's rules for everything. Yeah, you gotta flush that. You gotta flush that. So you gotta do a courtesy flush. Yes, a court. You gotta do multiple courtesy flushes. You don't just, you know how you sitting at home and you shit and you might be on your phone strolling, but me, I'm I'm still burnt out. But the toilet don't work at home like it does in jail. The toilet in jail, I can hit that button as long as my hand on that motherfucking bucket and it's gonna keep on flushing. The toilet, you gotta wait till the motherfucking back of the bowl filled back up again with a whole load of water to take down another load. So you wanna judge your loads wisely while you're at home. But when you're in there, you can just hold that goddamn button.

SPEAKER_07 42:48

Wow. Yeah, so it's it's it's so many rules of prison, you know. Uh, you know, you gotta come out with a with a manual. You know what I mean? A prison manual. I think that a lot of people would probably be interested in that, because you know, like we said, the jails is packed and people are gonna continue to go in go in go into jail, and they need to know these rules of what's going on. Is it um is it anything like before you get to the jail? Like, like is it a bus rule? Is it a bus rule? Like why you're on the bus going to the jail.

SPEAKER_09 43:16

Nah. Because you ain't on the bus long. You only a couple hours or whatever it may take you to get into everybody's shape that you can't do nothing. Can't do nothing.

SPEAKER_07 43:24

Oh, this is a made it's a major hand. Phone rules. What you mean, phone rules? Is it a rule for using the phone? How the phone is being used, or how you should how you should conduct conduct yourself. You can't, you know, you might you might want to get mad and slam the phone down. You get angry.

SPEAKER_09 43:37

Well, you could do that, niggas do it. Niggas do it. Okay. Niggas do it all the time. It's not no rule for the phone. So ain't no like, all right, my man on the on the phone next. No, that's not state.

SPEAKER_07 43:48

Okay.

SPEAKER_09 43:48

It's not state. This this joint right here, you get in line, you're like, yo, I'm next. So a nigga might say that, okay, because that's probably because you didn't know he was next. But other than that, it ain't like how the state, yo, this is a West Philly phone, this is a North Philly phone. Oh, no.

SPEAKER_07 44:01

Mm-mm. Ain't none of that going on in there. Oh, yeah. Also, yeah, what's called? I said a ski dash B7. You said put up, put the towel up, man. It's a rule, right? They had a towel that we use in the bathroom.

SPEAKER_09 44:10

But no, you guys, that's not a rule.

SPEAKER_07 44:11

And a rule, so I can walk past your cell and see you in the city.

SPEAKER_09 44:13

Yes, you got some niggas that are put up. You got some niggas that do what the police, because the police don't want you pitting tiles up. They can they can write you up for that. That's obscuring the view of them checking to see what the fuck is going on in there. You ain't never supposed to do that. But some police are like, yo, they're knocking on the door, yo, what you in there doing? Instead of just opening the door on you, because the police respect them too. Yeah. Like, yo, I'm shitting, man. I'm about to take that damn CL. You know what I'm saying? But other than that, you got niggas that uh wet a little piece of toilet paper and put it up over half of the window. But when you see that up, that means somebody's in there. You know not to look in there. So you can't be a tick. Like, you know what I mean? And then if you're doing that, you get knocked out.

SPEAKER_07 44:49

All right. That's cool. I mean, you know what I'm saying? I respect that because you shouldn't be looking in there while somebody goes in the bathroom, man. That's that's that's a that's a that's a golden.

SPEAKER_09 44:57

Shit, I know old heads that just go in there and shut the door and don't put nothing up. And be like, mind your motherfuckers, you ain't supposed to be looking in a nigga's cell. Like Sally, I'm about to shit. So the only one that should be knowing what's going is the Sally, because ain't nobody else going in there. I know you're up there shitting.

SPEAKER_07 45:11

What about sleeping in your cell during the on the day?

SPEAKER_09 45:14

That's a no-no, but you got niggas to do it. But that's a no-no. If you especially if you're a gang member, you in a heavy car, meaning an active car that's into shit, like DC niggas and all that. Even us, Philly niggas, like, yo, like we letting the niggas know when they get off the bus, all that when them doors is popped, ain't no sleeping. You get your sleep whenever we like. You guys sometimes that I used to be happy for lockdowns. Especially if I knew it was gonna be like a two, three-day lockdown. That's not too long. That ain't, man, I got books in there. I'm happy as shit. And don't let me have a locker full of commissary. Oh, keep this motherfucker locked in. I ain't, man, you don't rest. You go to sleep, you go get locked in 8:30, 9 o'clock at night. You eat or 9 o'clock at night, I probably go to sleep about 10, 10, 30, 11 o'clock. The doors pop at 6 in the morning. I'm right back up. I'm up before the doors pop.

SPEAKER_07 46:03

So like going back in the cell and laying down is on certain certain cars or certain you know, people you can't um or you shouldn't do that. No. Now, um, quick question. Is this is it like separate phones for each car? Or no?

SPEAKER_09 46:17

No, I just told you that. It's not that, it's not the state.

SPEAKER_07 46:19

Or the county, or the county be roof is like you just. So listen, man, um, we had a some new I don't I wanted to get your opinion on this as well, and I'll give my opinion. Uh the guy, uh, you know, Big Tigger, whoever he is, he just, you know, recently got arrested for Who is he?

SPEAKER_09 46:36

Is he a star?

SPEAKER_07 46:37

He's like a uh some type of he had like Rap City in the basement or something back in the day, I believe. He worked for BET. I forget what he's doing now, but it was just something recent with him and his wife. I think he might have saw it where he was trying to get his phone back from his wife, and he was on the ground, but he wasn't like hitting her.

SPEAKER_09 46:52

No, he never hit her not once.

SPEAKER_07 46:54

No, he was just getting the phone back. They locked him up, you know, stepson or whoever was there, saying, stop, stop Mr. Tigger or whatever the case may be. He ended up going to jail. But it's a flip flip side to it. But I was gonna get the first part now on duty as far as you know what happened, uh, from what you saw. And you see her on the ground, laying around the ground, but not trying to give him his phone back. From what you saw, what do you think? Was that warranted arrest? Or would you like to go to the room?

SPEAKER_09 47:17

No, that wasn't warrant, but I'm saying, like, why is you locking that man up? He ain't never hit her. From what I saw, he never hit her or nothing. Nothing. He ain't put her on that ground. She fell on the ground trying to guard the phone even more. Yeah. He just reached over and was trying to reach around. Yeah, give me my phone. Yeah. Why do you have my phone? Why is you holding my phone? Why would you want to look through it? Would you this is my phone? This ain't your phone, and I'm trying to take your phone, then that's when it becomes a little bit more trickier. Why are you trying to take her phone off her? No, you got that man's phone. Get that man his phone. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, and then all he's trying to do is retrieve it. He ain't slapping you about it, he ain't pushing you around, he ain't slammed you down, he's going around, he ain't violate that woman at all.

SPEAKER_07 47:56

Yeah. And then she fell on the ground and she's crying. Once again, the other aspect of now involving the chip, the child and playing the emotional.

SPEAKER_09 48:04

Get off my mom and all that other stuff in the back. Mr. Mrs.

SPEAKER_07 48:07

Whatever he's saying. Yeah. Yeah, man, get out of here, man. We all been through that. I've been through that before. My but, you know, my ex-wife is throwing that one time and in front of my son crying and so forth and so on. And and what what that did, what that does is that that now makes the child feel like, because he sees the he's a he sees his mom being emotional, and nine times out of ten, the kid is gonna react to what? His mom being emotional. Exactly. And but the woman He or she. He or she, yeah. But in this case, it was it was a young guy, but she she's forcing him to be emotional. His voice is cracking, calling him, Mr. Tigger, get off my mom, Mr. Tigger. You know what I'm saying? Well, all she had to do is give him his phone back. All the destruction and and problems she calls the man and went to jail. Man had had to lose his step away from his show, his business, lose, lose his money. You know what I'm saying? And he's going viral on the internet for all the wrong reasons. And then now you you not only did you did you uh affect his his uh his his work and his money and all his different things, you now uh affecting his his life, his reputation. And on top of all that. So it's like it's just crazy, man. And why do you think that not all women, but some of when some women do that. Why do you think they do that? What's the point of them doing all that? Well, you made the point, get what they want.

SPEAKER_09 49:28

To get what they want. That's that's it in a nutshell. We ain't got to look no further than that to get what they want. They use the law as a weapon. They use the law as a weapon. I advise any man that has a woman that plays with the police a half a time, fuck one time, get far away from her. Very far away from her. I done had some good women, man, in my time, man, and we done went through our shit. I don't beat on women or nothing, but I done been, you know, caught cheating and all that. She's gonna bring her pain to me. I'll be ready to call the police. You know what I mean? Like, oh, damn, you done bust over. God damn, you done lost your goddamn mind. No, it's a no-no, man. If any man dealing with a woman that likes to play with police, she's gonna use this as a tool, as a tool every time y'all go through something. Calling police is nothing to her. Like it just comes off easy. Yeah, he's in here right now.

SPEAKER_07 50:14

Nah, you gotta get away from sure. Because she's gonna mess your life up, man. She's gonna destroy your life. And also she's gonna destroy the children. We talked about this before. But listen, but the the young guy, right? You know, when they involve the kids, like I said, I've been there before. When they involve the kids, from my opinion, this is an everlasting scar on the child, man. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_09 50:34

Because now the kid is growing up underneath these conditions, and now this is getting indoctrinated in that child. That's all that child knows. And then that can lead on. It's a trickle-down effect. Now, when he or she gets in relationships, this is what they know to do. Or when they see, or when they get mad at you, his dad or mom, they call the cops. The first thing they do is run to the police. Yeah. Yeah, because this is what's indoctrinated in them, Toffee. This indoctrinated them at alarming rape. So yeah, I get it. I get it. Stay away from them women that call the police. Soon something goes left, they call the police. Get far away from them women. And you got some niggas that call the police, get for the women. Get away from that nigga. If that nigga's sassy like that, that's a sassy ass nigga. You don't need to be with that nigga.

SPEAKER_07 51:21

But yeah, like, you know, but just go back to the woman call the cops. And like I said before, sometimes it's warranted to call the cops. If you if you've been a dude is, you know.

SPEAKER_09 51:32

No, I'm never saying that. No, if he's if he if he in there beating her up. Oh, oh, you're talking about O-R-R. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, if he in there stopping out, putting hands on her, man, she ain't got no family members that can come check his temperature. Yeah. Yeah, go ahead and call a police. Yeah, get away from fucking line, man.

SPEAKER_07 51:48

Get away from the police. Man, come out here and fight me, nigga. And but what I'm saying is sometimes people don't really realize nowadays with social media and phones and so forth and so forth and so on, things can get blown out of proportion now on duty. Things get can start at just a video and turn into a serious case. So what's gonna happen now? What she's gonna possibly do, what they always do, is now go after the money. Mm-hmm. Shh, go ahead. That's it. I got you. I'm got this PFA against you. PFA does what? Allows them to get control of the children. Um, you know, all the different stuff they do to try to get leverage against against these men. And then ultimately it's not it it blows up in their face. Because kids are gonna pick sides or choose sides of who they want to, you know what I'm saying? When they get older, they start to realize who's the the real culprit. You know what I'm saying? They'll see the truth. Yeah, so my thing is if it's you try, if you're if your dude is cheating or whatever the case may be, and he asks for his phone back, just give it to him. Don't do all this fall on the ground, like he's harming you, hurting you, knowing all that you want to do is take take his phone from him and he wanna wants to get his phone back. So before you go into all this stuff, stuff where it's though people is losing jobs and people are getting arrested, just get a phone back. You know what I'm saying? But listen, why why why is it hard for dudes to walk away when they got that phone? If you already know you're court.

SPEAKER_09 53:12

Because boy, you might be caught by some other shit she seen there. I ain't walking away from that phone, but I'll be like, yo, chick grab my phone. How about your don't don't play with my phone, man? Especially if you ain't living right, man. Mean living right meaning being honest with your mate. Being honest with your mate. When you safeguard that phone, you got a nigga that comes in all the time. Every time he put his phone down, you put that motherfucker down fat down like this. He on all nuts shit. And vice versa for the bitch too. Yeah, you can come in anytime.

SPEAKER_07 53:39

That's a habit of mine. I don't, but I ain't got nothing going on.

SPEAKER_09 53:41

No, but it's like because you used to being a whore. So I get it. Before you left your whore days and came into your you was when you was Jahaliya.

SPEAKER_07 53:48

It's a habit. I don't know why. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_09 53:49

It's a habit because you indoctrinated, you've been so much training in your youth to pity down. You can't just break it now. It's a habit that's hard to break. In your better years, it's a better man. But yeah, you you was going through your days and damn, she might check this motherfucker. Let me sit this motherfucker. I do it now. It's a habit. It's like it's like it's just not. No, it's a habit because it's something you've been doing. So that's the only reason why. Don't nobody just not never been cheating and all that, just put their phone down all the time. That comes from a cheater. That's traits of a cheater. Or doing something that their partner don't like. Or you got something to hide. That's yeah.

SPEAKER_07 54:24

It ain't gotta be if you got something you want to do.

SPEAKER_09 54:26

Something you want to hide. Who comes in and just puts it down on the face every time? Come on, man.

SPEAKER_07 54:31

It's a habit though, man.

SPEAKER_09 54:32

It's not always you're being sneaky.

SPEAKER_07 54:35

No, so so listen, I see you come here and put your phone face down.

SPEAKER_09 54:40

No, I don't. No, I don't, not in here.

SPEAKER_07 54:42

That's what you do. That's you do.

SPEAKER_09 54:44

No, I don't.

SPEAKER_07 54:45

So listen, so when you um when you put your phone face down, anybody, like if you see somebody putting their phone face down, you thinking that, oh no, he's a cheater. Or she a cheater.

SPEAKER_09 54:56

Yeah. All the time, I can see once or twice. All the time? I done around you 40 times, and every time we somewhere in comfort and problem and chilling, you putting that joint face down. Yeah, that's that's a red flag.

SPEAKER_07 55:09

Do you have to have would you like to have uh access to your uh your wife's phone? No, you can go in there.

SPEAKER_09 55:15

Nah, nah, I ain't with that, man. But if I got to do that, I don't want to be with you. I give my bitch enough rope to hang her damn self. If I got to do that, I don't wanna be with you. Anytime I want access to your phone. I had to check myself about getting my my chick uh location. I find myself not doing nothing bored and just looking at it. I'm like, I'm a cold-blooded creep. Yeah, I ain't with all that. Yeah, that's nutshit.

SPEAKER_10 55:40

Yeah, I ain't with that.

SPEAKER_09 55:41

If you really got, yeah, I mean you got some niggas you relocate. Them niggas is creeps. Them niggas want to know your every step. They want to govern you from top to bottom, which is cool. I'm just not into that. I ain't into that, man.

SPEAKER_07 55:52

Well, they're trying to share that, share their location just because they want to, you know, make sure that they're gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_09 55:54

Oh, no, they're trying to, all right, cool.

SPEAKER_07 55:56

I'm gonna make sure you're all right.

SPEAKER_09 55:57

All right, cool. You keep telling me, you keep asking the same question over and over. All right, cool, but for me to go and I'm handling your we while your location ain't on.

SPEAKER_07 56:05

But what I'm saying, what it does to you is it it makes you want to wanna look and see what they got going on. No, what you mean? They say, look, but I'm gonna say it's two sides of that. It can be it can be a trick too. They give you their location, but what it what it does for you is now it makes you want to look and check where they where they're going at. And also it can be a trap for them to tell you to give me your location. So now both of y'all, she, I'm gonna give my location, and you want to give her yours because you want to, you know what I'm saying? You want to appease her, make her feel happy because of that. But if you if she offered to give you her location and you decline to give to give her yours, that's a whole other argument. That's a that's a problem. Why can't why can't I get your location? Is we still live on uh Instagram? Yeah, so so you know, uh I almost can't pull it up on my phone no more. Yeah, we we in the middle of a live talking on Instagram. So what I'm saying to you is so somebody somebody somebody gives the phone, somebody offered a location, but you don't want to agree to give them yours. Yeah, but you yeah, you ain't got to agree to give them yours? Is that a way that is that a way that they accident for yours? Yes, yes, it is. Yeah, I just know that's coming in. Okay, all right, cool, thanks. But I'm saying from the drive, you ain't gotta do that. They said, no, I just want to give it to you. No, I said, I'm gonna give it to you that. All right. All right. Now they said looking at you like this.

SPEAKER_09 57:22

Yeah, and we go and we'll be eating. We'll be eating, we're dinner. Matter of fact, you can leave. Man, that's cool too. That's cool too. Yeah. Because you ain't getting my location.

SPEAKER_07 57:33

These folks is crazy, man. Like, you know what I'm saying? They say they want they want your passcode to your phone. Now what happens? They're going through all your old text messages while you sleep. You know, these devices is crazy, man. But listen, you know, uh, also, let's go back to to the to the guy Tigger. His she got his his um wife got locked up right after that. She got pulled over on charges that she was wanted for like a kidnapping or something, or uh, you know, uh breaking a child custody rule, and she got booked right after that. Who? Uh the girl? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. Like a couple days later, or so she got booked right after that on child custody. She violated a custody order or something like that, and they gave her kidnapping. You know what I'm saying? So my thing is too, that's another thing too, man. You know, these situations with majority is women, like women, you know, I talk to my lawyers and things like that. Majority of times, a woman buck on a court order before a man, and then go in front of the judge and cry like they a victim still. You the one bucked on the order, you the one who came in here, didn't get what you want, and then you bucked on the order, took the kids, didn't bring the kids to the man when he put the board the kids, all this other stuff, and then when he goes when he goes in there, oh he's gonna take me to court, he's a nut. But they're waiting for you to do something wrong so they can take you to court. But they go in there and they expect leniency. After they did all this stuff, like this, like this woman just got ticker locked up, and she like that now. She's expecting leniency, want people to feel sorry for her. And then she got locked up.

SPEAKER_09 59:13

After she's arrested, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 59:14

So Yeah, man. It just like it just crazy how how things go, man. You know? And once again, I ask I ask a question to you all the time. How many guys you see in jail behind women? A lot.

SPEAKER_09 59:25

Revived a lot. You know how many times I see a nigga coming in with a domestic violence or whatever the case may be, uh involving a woman, a woman, or not even a domestic, just a woman defining some shit, telling on him, sending him back to jail to his PO. He ain't yeah, he he he he he he uh paroled to my house, but he ain't been here in weeks. P.O. call you. Last time you been home, I've been home all week. Lock him up. That's a violation. You know, and women do stuff like that. That's why the PO tell you do not go home and be paroled to a woman's house.

SPEAKER_07 59:58

Hey, listen, y'all. Um, another thing, you know, like I said, July 18th, uh World Live, World Cafe Live, our live event will be there. Also, this weekend, um, we got crazy clips. Crazy clips will be available. What time they come on, Crazy Clips. 12 p.m. 12 p.m. uh eastern time. Crazy clips, you know, you got you got young and black who's gonna be doing the crazy clips. Y'all can watch crazy clips of black uh this weekend at 12 p.m. Now, um just want to go back to uh the prison talk real quick, right? You know, because I never asked this question and it was something about uh is it a rule when you know you're about to get out? Is a certain way you're supposed to move, certain way you're supposed to act, certain things you shouldn't say, or is it any advice you give somebody like, you know, this and don't tell nobody this, don't tell nobody that. So you can be voiced and say, look, I'm I'm getting out next week.

SPEAKER_09 1:00:47

Yeah, you could want to, but you would choose not to do it because a nigga jack you off and get you to fight and a nigga that got a lot of time, but it's not a rule for when you're ready to get released. The only rule I would say, and this is not a rule either, I mean, give that property away, man. So that's a that's an un uh unwritten rule. It's not no, it's not a rule though. That's just something I'm coming up with.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:06

Okay.

SPEAKER_09 1:01:06

That's not a rule. That's why I said that. You you could do what you want because you got a lot of dudes that ain't got shit. They go home to nothing. So why would they get a cosmetics? They're gonna need this in the halfway house.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:16

Oh, you can take that, you can take that with you when you leave.

SPEAKER_09 1:01:17

Yeah, you can pack your shit up. Whatever you got, you can take with you when you leave. You can take your radio, your iPad, whatever you done bought in there, you could take home your watch. I'm not taking no goddamn G-Shock home with me. I'm giving it away.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:28

But if you go back, you can't take it back in jail with you.

SPEAKER_09 1:01:30

No, hell you ain't taking nothing back in jail. Yeah, you starting all over from the drive. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:35

Dang.

SPEAKER_09 1:01:35

But yeah, my thing is like when I go home, man, every time I go home, you see that time, that time we got locked up and we was getting bell. I gave a nigga my sneaks right off my feet. You know what I mean? Remember that time? When we would say the district where we was in the county or something. Yeah, because I know I'm going right back out. Here you go, home. Take these. But you got some niggas that need their sneaks. They might not can go home. I was selling dope at an alarming rate. You know what I'm saying? So I knew what I was going back out there to get into. You got some dudes that's in there, domestic violence or something like that. Then regular working dude. It's his only pair of shoes. Fuck he gonna lead them for and be walking around with some shower shoes. Yeah. But me, I just think a nigga should leave that to the men and try to fit, because you got a bigger chance of figuring it out than he do. He in here. He ain't got no way. You know what I'm saying? You out here in the free world. You got niggas that'll pack up all their commissary and take it home. But like I say, again, you got a nigga might not got nothing. So why won't he take all his food? But if he got something out there, family way in front of him. Yeah, even if me, me, the man, and I am, I ain't got to have nothing. I'm going home. I can make something happen. I'm leaving this to the men in here. They need that 20 billion times more than I'm gonna need it out there, bro.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:43

So are you breaking it, breaking the actual the uh the product down and just um five suits for you, five suits for me? Yeah, if I got a couple couple homies, yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:02:50

Yeah, yeah, but if I got one of my main men, huh, you get everything, and then you just you decide, man, make sure all of them get something, man.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:57

And and and that's like like I said, it's not it's it's not a rule, but it's not an unwritten rule, but it's just common courtesy. That's kind of you a man.

SPEAKER_09 1:03:04

Yeah, you carrying it on man time, man. You we all in here struggling together. When you in jail, you if you ain't got your own money, you depend it like a baby on your family, your friends, your girl, whoever can send you something. And majority of the men in there is like that. Ain't too many niggas got thousands in their account just waiting. And for the ones that got that, if they got a long time to do, they be still become the because that shit runs out. Unless you got some businesses going on where you can keep bringing it in while you while you're in there. Other than that, if you go to jail with a stash, that shit gonna dwindle. You understand what I'm saying? And you ain't got no way to keep on replenishing your stash because you ain't out there, it's gonna it's gonna dwindle. So now you're you're underneath the baby app. You're looking for people to take care of you. Yo, can you send me a little 50? Yo, you send me a. I done call home, yo, man, send me a little 20, man. I'm gonna go ahead and get $10 in cosmetics and put the other $10 on the phone. I gotta pick. Damn, if I want to get soups this week, I definitely got to get cosmetics. That never go with an X. Like, I could go and have to go out there. You can't, you need that. That old taught me from the Raddock, peace to Raddock, man. People probably know Raddock, Rich and Allah Projects, man. Shout out to Radic. May Allah have mercy on his soul, man. Raddock, a good man from Rich and Allah Projects. Raddock was one of the best men, not only best men, but one of the men I encountered in the federal system that I was, you know, uh in uh I had the the the pleasure of being a celly of such a good man. And I opened up his locker because Raddick was one of them dudes. If he letting you come in his cell, he got to fuck with you. You ain't, he ain't just taking no any nigga. Raddock was a cold-blooded man all the way through and through and through. And he leaves his shit wide open. And Raddick, one of them boys, he got a lot of family to take care of him. He probably had his own money. His shit stuffy. I'm talking about 99. Turkey log costs 210. When you be going to the store, you be like, you might have $50. Imagine if you get 10 of them, your $50 is damn near gone. So you might be like, damn, I'm gonna get two turkey logs this week, huh? And then that niggas is, you know, a turkey log like that big inside the pack, you might cut half for a meal. So I could eat with this two times. You understand? With one turkey log. Radic got 50 of them. I'm like, damn, you got 50 turkey logs, 25 mechs, 25 tuna fishes. I'm like, but Raddock, man, is a is a is an open locker policy with Raddock. He he didn't want to fight you if you ask him for something. Yo, didn't I tell you stop asking me for stuff? Didn't I? And Raddock was Radic a cold-blooded man, because if he fuck with you, nigga, go in there and get it. That's our shit. But the first thing I noticed besides the food, the massive food that Raddick had, this man had 40 bars of dove soap, 10 suave lotions, 15 brand new deodorant suave, 15 boxes of toothpaste. You know, a toothpaste will last you the longest out of all kinds. Cosmetics. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Out of soap, lotion, shampoo, 10 lotions, 10 shampoos. I'm like, damn, Radic, why you always, why you got all this cosmetics? He said, man, always buy cosmetics. You're gonna need cosmetics before you need food. One thing about it, the jail got to feed you, but they don't bring you no cosmetics. And the cosmetics that you do get for the inteligent people, integer is a word for broke. Another word for broke. You ain't got nothing coming in. You ain't got nothing that you came in with. And I say coming in meaning money. So if you're integrated, every month you can go to your counselor and she'll check your books and all that, because they go on the computer and check to see what your finances and all that. And they see that you ain't had money in months, they'll give you a care package. But it's a jailhouse care package. The Bob Baker's soup, the little soaps that you see in the hotels, you might get three of them. You see the little shampoos, but it be three and one. It's a shampoo, it's a body wash, and it's a deal. Yeah. Nut shit. This shit, when you pour it in your hand, it feels like water. It ain't got no thickness to it. You know what I'm saying? So go ahead. Go ahead. Save real. Yeah, you missed that one. Now don't do it.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:04

Yeah, it's not on duty. No thickness to it. Not on duty. That was crazy. So listen, that's your question, though. Is it on commissary? It had multiple like deodorants, right? Yeah. Is it a deodorant on there? You say, you better not buy that because it ain't gonna work.

SPEAKER_09 1:07:18

No, all pretty much all the unless you know your body type. It's all about the body type. You know what I mean? You got dudes that's you mean profusiously sweat. You got dudes that don't sweat a lot. You know what I mean? It's all the body type. But you know what I mean? You want to buy the best cosmics, like the best lotion in jail to buy in federal jail is Palmer's cocoa butter. That's the closest thing that you're gonna get to. Like it's a street brand. But that's the best lotion you're gonna get because the other lotion is suave. That's a bullshit ass lotion. You know what I'm saying? So I'm about, but it's expensive. $8 a bottle. $8 is not expensive, but when you're in there, it is. I might only got $50 spent. All I got is $50. I gotta put $15 on the phone from the drive because I need to talk. Now I'm only got I got $35 to go to the store with. Yeah. So I gotta spend that $35. Why? Maybe five soups, maybe two bags of chips. Damn I need cosmetics. Let me get I'm gonna get the cheapest two paces because they got different two paces.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:08:15

But yeah, that's how that shit works, cuz.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:17

Hey, listen, y'all, don't forget to become a member if you are able to, so that that way you can watch uh Tell us with Jails Uncut. Tell us what Uncut will be available for all members, uh I believe next week. Also, all members will be uh able to watch uh Cooking with Black. Black has a segment where he's will be cooking uh, you know, Jail House cuisine.

SPEAKER_09 1:08:36

Uh so you can show you a stinger, I'm gonna show you how to fire, make a stinger, put a stinger together, and I'm gonna show you how if you ain't got a stinger and you well, fuck the hell with that. I'm gonna show you how to get a light if you ain't got no batteries. Yeah, and you gotta socket in yourself.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:50

You're gonna go through a whole different, a lot of different things. Uh well, cooking with black, and also you got telescope gels, uncut, uncut telescope gels where you just see a lot of uh raw content not on duty is gonna be uh available for the members. Don't forget to become a member if you're able to. Um now, what uh what we're saying in regards to uh, you know, just you know, the cosmetics, right?

SPEAKER_09 1:09:13

Mm-hmm. I used to run through my little, so I used to buy two different types of lotions. I used to buy the good dick beaten lotion. Now on duty. They got the regular cocoa butter lotion and it was watered down. The looser the lotion was, like, see the suave and all that, you couldn't really get a good jack off with that. You gotta keep reloading and going back in. But you get the good, the the cheap lotion is dick beaten lotion. Now on duty. Like you see niggas that got uh cocoa butter, palmers, and all that, cocoa butter, cocoa butter, and then you see two swab, I mean two regular, uh regular low cocoa, oh he deep beating that dick good as shit in there. You know what I'm saying? So you got the dick beaten lotion, you got all types of shit in there.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:49

Yo, that's crazy. Yo, man. You know, I just uh don't know what to say no more. I mean, like man, so I just yeah, I just you know I don't know what to say, man. Like, so people got people just buy certain lotions for certain things, and then and I walk in your side, I seen that, but oh yeah, he's gonna be.

SPEAKER_09 1:10:09

He's beating dick good in here. Call duty. You know what I mean? He's one of them. I mean, you buy you a lotion, you buy your lotion that you lotion up with, and you buy your fun lotion. So, you know what I mean? You got you got all types of methods.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:19

Anything is anything that that that tells that talks without telling, like, you know, like he got that in there, so that's what he doing with that.

SPEAKER_09 1:10:25

Oh, yeah, it's a lot of things, but I can't think of nothing per se right now. But you you can definitely come in and see how, you know, a motherfucker or something that uh, you know, that's like a non-verbal. Non-verbal is telling you without verbally speaking it.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:37

Like if somebody see something on his beard, I know all that's what we don't with that.

SPEAKER_09 1:10:40

Yeah, you like you might come in and catch a nigga, yeah. Pictures and shit on this pillow and shit. You see, you're like, yeah, what you doing? You you just had them in your album book. Why they all out and you was working. You was working. I get it. So that come back and let you lay it out on the floor. Yeah, because a nigga might be like, damn, man, go to the door, throw his pillow over the joint. You might come and be kicking it. Might go to, you know, like I told you, a nigga lift up a bit, and he'd be like, damn, it's six pictures though. And they all out, but everybody got album books in there. They don't buy have pictures regular.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:06

So those is those is the dick beating pictures. That's the goal, that that's the goal.

SPEAKER_09 1:11:10

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:12

And the pictures can be old as hell. And it may not even be somebody he knows. Mm-hmm. Yeah. He got he just got them from his homie that just left and gave him, gave him them pictures. How many women that's probably floating around the prison that don't they don't know they floating through the prison?

SPEAKER_09 1:11:25

Man, man, you know how many pictures I done seen of the same girl through different niggas? That's why I said that's a you gotta protect your pictures in jail, man. Niggas, niggas would do that, especially if the relationship goes bad, she starts fucking other niggas, she done sent up a bunch of painting shots and all that. Niggas start passing them joints out to the guys. Niggas start passing them joints out, man. Go get you some.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:45

That'd be somebody's mom and then like.

SPEAKER_09 1:11:47

Yeah, but it happens like that all the time. Them pictures could have been 30 years ago.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:51

She looked like they're young.

SPEAKER_09 1:11:52

She looked down old as hell. Exactly, exactly. Them pictures will go through the ringer in there because they don't take pictures and throw them away to police. But they need it. You're allowed to have pictures. They need it though. They're definitely needed. That's a breath of fresh air. Is there any picture rules in there? No, I'm saying you don't you you just don't go on a man's pictures. Like if you ain't in the cell, I'm in your pictures. That's cause for you to get killed.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:10

How much time have I say I say look, young hook, hook, five pictures, man? I need these pictures back. Oh, I'm gonna give them back tomorrow.

SPEAKER_09 1:12:17

Unless you renting them. Now, if you renting them, you got a time limit on your pictures. But if you let me hold a little, you gave me an envelope with two pictures.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:24

Oh, what do you got? They got hour rentals, two-hour rentals, a day rental. Yeah, all that. What's how much costs for like an hour? I would be about two, three max.

SPEAKER_09 1:12:31

What about what I said? I need this for the whole week, bro. Whole week, man. Go on, give me, give me, give me 10 max, man. For a whole week? Yeah, give me 10, give me 10 max. So that's Monday to Sunday. You give me 10 max. I'm coming to see you Sunday evening, 12 o'clock, right at the motherfucking brunch. Sub them pitches, Fete.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:46

What if I say, man, I lost some jams. Oh, no, you gotta pay for Jones up.

SPEAKER_09 1:12:51

Oh, you gotta pay more. You know though, you know what it is before you even take them. That comes with instructions. The pictures come with instructions. So people like so same way a porn book do if I'm same way when we was in the low, niggas renting out phones, the same way we're renting out a phone. See, but we're renting out a phone.

SPEAKER_07 1:13:08

A phone, a phone, ooh, you can you can do because the internet is on the phone, right? Yeah. So now you're gonna pick up the phone.

SPEAKER_09 1:13:12

Yeah, I used to rent, I used to rent a phone like shit. I rent it for an hour to talk to my girl, an hour to two hours.

SPEAKER_07 1:13:28

So used to I need two hours, one hour with my girl, and one hour for me.

SPEAKER_09 1:13:32

Yeah. Me and Pinky. I was on Pinky. I knew all the porno girls' names. See, when you went in jail, man.

SPEAKER_07 1:13:39

The top ten porno porno uh that you still watch.

SPEAKER_09 1:13:42

Top ten. I watched Charlie B. Hustle. Man, boy, look her up. Charlie B. Hustle. Boy, she take boys, she take motherfucking young from here to there. I'd be like, damn. Top ten right now. Uh uh uh Sarah, Sarah, uh uh Sarah J. Sarah J. White girl, Buffy the Body, Sarah J. Uh Yeah, you can look all these up as proven facts, too. Y'all can push them up on your phone right now. Yeah, man. Yeah, so we ain't gonna get them. Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. I just gave them two. I need to give them two. No, I fucking give them top two. But yeah, that's the top two. I'm all for that right now. No, my mom is the top two, I'm all for that man. I gave him the top two. Sarah J, and you got I guess a whole bunch of them, man. I'll be if I'm forgetting their names right now, but the top one is Charlie B. Hustle, Sarah J. You got uh, I'm forgetting their names. I gotta sit, I should have just thought about it. I didn't know you was gonna ask this question, but I got about four or five that I go to on a repeat offender tip. Repeat offender tip. You know them very well. Very well. We're very intimate with each other. Like if I meet them women, they're gonna think they knew me for years. The way I'm gonna express myself, I'm like, thank you for getting me so through so much time, and it's because of you, and they're gonna be looking like we know each other. Yes, we do. Very well. I know everything about you with your clothes and without your clothes, but unbeknownst to you. But you know, this is her profession, this is her job.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:06

Who the hell who's Cherokee? Oh, uh Cherokee, you see.

SPEAKER_09 1:15:08

I know Cherokee, but we got burnt out of her. But Cherokee and Pinky, don't know about Cherokee is with Pinky Time. Oh, they're old. Yeah, don't know about them old hoes. I don't want nothing old but a bank roll. I'm going for these new Jones. Yeah, Sarah J, huh? Mm-hmm. Um, you see, we see with dollar bills, be dollar bills. Boy, don't be out here pulling that motherfucker out, cuz look, he's talking about Sarah J is for boy, she top of the line. I done hit her a couple times out here. Oh yeah? Yeah. You goddamn right. He like I see no shit. Hey, Cotty. Now Cotty, he he young, he probably got cotton. I'll put Cotty on that. He won't bigger than Monday. Hey, Cotty, man. Yeah. This man crazy as hell. You comes up here to just say this. Yeah, I do. This will be the highlights of your day. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, I do. This is the highlight of your day.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:07

Oh my gosh. Yo, man. So, all right, let's get back to the all right, the phone, right? So the phone, why you said, like, you know, people rent the phones. But do people want to rent their phones for a week, though? The people would, but you gotta put it up at night.

SPEAKER_09 1:16:20

You got slots though. Like you can't, unless you go to him with some big time money. How much can you make can you make up a phone a phone uh a year? Like if you rent renting out thousands of dollars, bro. Oh, yeah? You charging $20 an hour. Nigga might charge you, nigga might charge you two books an hour. A book go for $7 when you take it out of the commissary. Uh and book in a book is a book of stamps. So a nigga might be like, yo, give me two books for an hour. That's $14. If I go sell four two books to somebody on a compound, they want to buy stamps because you're gambling with them and all that. Here, go get me $14 in commissary in store in money in store. So a book is $4. I mean seven hours. So a nigga might be like, I give me, you gotta charge two books an hour. So I might rent my phone out for eight hours a day after we bring the phones out. So you do the math. 14 times eight. And that's in one day. 14 times and you do it every day. You making a bag. Everybody that's renting phones making a bag in there, bro. Making a bag. But now when you're renting phones in the feds, niggas don't leave you to your own devices. Like you might have a nigga, like especially when Amigos rent out phones, like, because when niggas rent out phones, they want to go in private places. They don't rent the phone out and be walking around the unit. They want to go somewhere private, probably in the bathroom stall, probably in their room. But amigos stand right there on deck. As soon as they hear the call, I'm he coming right in there. Give my shit. He talking, he's out. You know what I'm saying? So yeah. Who the hell is Jackie Guerrero Guerrero on Telemundo? You know what that is? Yeah, yeah, that's the one I was telling you about the other day. Jackie, Jackie is the sports news girl. That's everybody's girlfriend in the feds. And she's been on the news for about 20 years up there. Oh, yeah. Telemundo, yeah, Jackie Guerrero, yeah. She looks good. Spanish.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:03

It's the Spanish girl. It's the Spanish news. Telemundo is all Spanish. That's good. So on them sites you watch, who's the best? Is the best the Ricans, the Mexicans, the uh I don't know.

SPEAKER_09 1:18:13

It all does all depends on what you like. It all depends on whatever the looker likes. I can't go and say who the best, because uh all all ethnics is on there working. You know what I'm saying? And my best, as of right now, I forgot, is is it's Charlie B. Hustle. She is, yeah. Charlie B her fucking hustle. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:32

Got it. You know what that is? Like, Cody don't take it notes. Yo, man. He said, he said, once you find out about Twitter, you gonna go crazy, yo? Huh? He said, once you find out about Twitter. What Twitter is porno? I guess I don't know. No, Twitter ain't porno. Look at Tophy, like, yeah, I know about the yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This boy crazy, man. So listen, so so so once again, the phones, right? Um now if I if I rent you, like if you if you rent me your phone, right? Mm-hmm, and then I get it took in. What happens with that?

SPEAKER_09 1:19:09

But you gotta pay for that. You what you mean? It all depends because if you rent phones, you got lookouts for that phone. So if it got took in, it was the fault of that lookout.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:18

Okay.

SPEAKER_09 1:19:18

You understand what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_07 1:19:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:19:20

Like you somewhere using a phone, you hear the call, I'll go on it. You know to hang up and hang up. But by the time you hang up, a nigga right there in your face. Come on, come on, come on. Pass that motherfucker off. Because they they know how to go stash it somewhere real fast.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:30

What's a cell phone? What's a what's a cell phone rule? Is it a rule for a cell phone? What do you mean? Like if I if I give you my cell phone, this is an unwritten rule, meaning like don't do this, don't do that.

SPEAKER_09 1:19:39

Oh, nigga might must some niggas probably tell you you can't look at the internet or you can't, but other most of the time it's an open season when you got the phone for that time you rent you rented. This is yours for the time you rented it. As long as you don't break my shit or none of that, you you're allowed to do whatever the hell you want to do on this phone. That's why you're renting it. To do what you want to do with a phone device. So are you, are you, um, are you disinfecting your phone when you get it back? Spray it down to disinfect. No, absolutely not. Ain't nobody in there spraying it. Because you're not, you're not, you're not beating your dick with the phone. You got the phone propped up somewhere. Oh, ooh, you over there. Ooh, ooh. You know what I mean? So ain't nothing, yeah. The fuck? You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_07 1:20:18

Yo, what's up, buddy? So you so you make noises when you're over there. You you ooh the over that. Huh? You making noises while you're over there get it. No, you ain't doing it.

SPEAKER_09 1:20:26

I ain't making no noises, but you mean I'm the type of nigga because you gotta keep the volume down. So I take my headphones because I need to hear her. I think it's me that's hitting her. So when she in there, like, oh, oh, come in me. I need to hear all that for me to come. I can't just put it all the way on mute and I'm just watching them through the motion. Oh my god, man. This man crazy as shit. I need to hear all hard facts.

SPEAKER_07 1:20:51

Yo, man, this is crazy, Joe. Stop this crazy. Yo, stay free, y'all. Y'all gonna be like this guy burnt out, man. This guy.

SPEAKER_09 1:21:02

I'm gonna answer this question real fast from Darren Franklin. M two times. He said, he said, he said, he said, he said, why do men want cash app more than money on the books? They're getting high, man. Yeah, because they're getting high. They're getting high, or they probably buying things. But nine times out of ten, he either buying liquor, he buying weed, he buying cigarette, K2, you know, uh, or nigga might be making stuff in there. Nigga make cards and shit like that, might be like charging cash. You cash at my girl. You can't send the money with me because what the fuck I'm gonna do with it. You know what I mean? I don't want to go through the hassle of getting it off my books, because you can take money off your books and they'll put it in a check form and send it to whoever you want to send it to.

SPEAKER_07 1:21:40

Somebody say I'm like that on the streets, huh? 3,700 the trunk.

SPEAKER_09 1:21:45

See, I'm like that on the streets. I know that's right, homeboy. Look, see if truth's don't such you free. See, when people get open and be I it becomes because it's a norm. You ain't gay, you ain't doing nothing wrong, and you don't get no STDs. And these bitches is compliant. Hannah and Pomolina got me through a hundred years together, and we still here rocking strong. And they fight for me, they stab. If I want to shoot, they'll shoot somebody for me. I ain't gotta do nothing.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:12

Yo, man, it's crazy though. But see, it's it's new information every day, man. Every day. Listen to what somebody rather get a phone or commissary, though. Boom.

SPEAKER_09 1:22:21

You know a phone, nigga. Take a phone off anything.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:23

But because once you get once, because I can make money there.

SPEAKER_09 1:22:26

You can do everything with a phone, bro. Anything that you need to get done, you're gonna get done.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:30

Yeah, man. Uh listen, everybody who wanna know the recipes for these for these meals that he's gonna be he's gonna be making on cooking with black, cooking with black episode. First episode is gonna be next week. I believe. I believe it's gonna be on a Tuesday. Well, not sure. Yeah, Tuesday. First episode is gonna be Tuesday. Cooking with black. Y'all can y'all can check it out, man.

SPEAKER_09 1:22:48

The only, the only Yazikiwi. I hope I'm saying that right. I want to answer your question. You say how you making turkey? You don't make turkey logs, they sell that on commissary. They sell turkey logs, they sell mackerels, they sell clams, they sell rayman noodle soup, they sell rice, pre- or uh or pre-cooked rice, uh, all that type of stuff. They sell all that comes. Once you get in there, you got the stinger to cook your food. They used to have microwaves in the feds, but as of the last five to ten years, federal-wise, they're moving in the direction of taking all microwaves from the federal facility. So now you just use them hot water. If you don't got a stinger, you up shits creek.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:27

Shout out to uh Mr. G's WP. He said, Team not on duty. I'm Turk. Run show from IG. Yeah, that's for all the reposts from Black Potter of the month. Shout out to you, Mr. G's WP, man. Shout out to you, man. Appreciate the donation. Yeah, man. Um so it's just crazy, man. It's a crazy, crazy, this is a crazy, crazy world out here, man. But listen, jail is his own world within the world. You know what I mean? I'm actually a question. Do you think Puff is partaking in all these activities? Probably not the phones.

SPEAKER_09 1:24:00

Yeah, yeah, Puff, Puff, Puff, Puff definitely took him a sip before and there. That uh, what you call it? Let white lightning. Woo! Puff took him a sip? Yeah. It's too much to like Puff is probably staying away from, and then I'm this is accusations from me, but I'm assuming. But uh he definitely took him because motherfucker be, especially Puff, motherfucker coming from reality, from the real world, of his stature, and into that.

SPEAKER_07 1:24:25

What kind of pictures you think he probably getting sent to him in there?

SPEAKER_09 1:24:27

Are you getting a lot of pictures?

SPEAKER_07 1:24:28

So he probably just divvy them out through the jails.

SPEAKER_09 1:24:30

No, why would you send your why would you divvy your pictures out to the?

SPEAKER_07 1:24:32

I'm saying of certain women that's probably sending them pictures.

SPEAKER_09 1:24:35

Oh, probably so. It was guys, but then again, you won't want to violate unless you like fuck them hoes. Huh, man, take these pictures. He's probably getting mail from all over the United States. He is. He's getting every mail call he got, his mail comes like this. They wrap that up by itself for him. His mail probably don't even come in the bag with the rest of the game. Exactly. All big figure pubbers, uh, public figures. R. Kelly. Yeah, all that. Yeah. So Puff probably on that white lightning, huh? Yeah, he done hit that motherfucker. Puff Ray came home in August. Puff Ray get out of jail. Puff trying to get uh, what's his name? I think what's the name turned down his partner to get out this month or next month. But he came home in August. Yeah. He just said tight. Any at Fort Dixon. Yeah. But still, fuck all that. Nigga be wanting to go. Yeah, he comes home, though. He'll come home and make a bag. Yeah, a super bag. I'm trying, we won't try to have him up on the show, but you could we could we could talk about his experiences in there. And if he feels like he can go in and had too much fun again and go back, was it worth it? That's a good question. Yeah, a great question that the masses want to hear answered. And then leave it up to Puff. Puff wanna have some fun. He's gonna be very cautious now. He's gonna be very cautious about the fun he had in there.

SPEAKER_07 1:25:39

Yeah. That's it. Yeah, he got locked up having way too much. Well, having not way too much fun, but having having too much fun. Yeah, so y'all about get to these phone lines, man. Um trying to think anything else I want to ask you about the judge. This is this was this was you you gave up some uh some good content today, man. Some people, some good insight for those who don't know nothing about you know prison rules while you're in there. I'm pretty sure some things we we missed. We got about to about 300 people live over there. Yeah, shout out, shout out, shout out to y'all, man.

SPEAKER_09 1:26:08

But y'all ain't hitting that like button, so y'all might not like us that much. Y'all just like us enough to look at us. But yeah, hit that like button, man. Hit that like button, subscribe if you got it, become a member, man. Because I'm gonna go all in on the you understand me. The X rated what we're gonna do with these members, we're gonna uncut how we want how I want to give it to you without this nigga in my ear. Yeah. It's a lot y'all need to know.

SPEAKER_07 1:26:32

Mm-hmm. Yeah, y'all see why I get to these phone lines, man. Uh 215-316-4492. That's 215-316-4492. I got my sister texting me. I don't know what she's texting me, she's saying, Let me see what's going on with her. She be always texting doing the live, huh? I'm your sister. How you didn't get me a pair of sneakers. A nice I didn't I didn't get sneakers. I didn't bring no you didn't bring to my house a few shows on the streets. Love seven-year-olds, seven-year-old sister, and you wonder why. I don't think you keep that clear. I love my sister. Ask my Cer, she she knows how she she'll see me and like, I like them sneakers. I'm about to text her back and I'd take them off my feet and get it.

SPEAKER_09 1:27:21

Real real deal dollars or C dollar Bills. He said real shit. Black been cooking all week on the contrary. Yeah? Yeah, I try to cook every day, and I don't even call it cooking, I just call it being me. I don't come up here and act like none of my other stuff. This is not something of facade. I think cooking. Oh, yes, right.

SPEAKER_07 1:27:36

She tried to birthday July 7th. What? What? What you say? I forgot what I was saying. What were you saying about her birthday? Sister's birthday was two days ago. July 7th. Shout out to my sister Marie, she just turned 90. Shout out to you, Marie. 90 years old. She's about to go crazy. Yeah, so the phone line is open. 215-316-4492. 215-316492.

SPEAKER_09 1:28:07

It's Friday, y'all. It's Friday. You know what I always tell y'all about these Fridays, man. Be mindless, be mindful, be cautious out here in society today. Because just because you're behaving yourself in a grown-up manner, don't mean the next person is going to do that. So be mindful and be cautious and be vigilant. It's Friday, y'all. Let's make it to Monday. And guess what? If you go to jail today, you ain't getting out the Monday, Tuesday. You ain't who wants to go through that?

SPEAKER_07 1:28:33

Shout out to Darren Franklin before becoming a member. What's up? What's up? Tell us what Judge we speak it with.

SPEAKER_08 1:28:38

What's going on? This Hank from Jersey.

SPEAKER_07 1:28:40

What's up, Hank? Shout out to Jersey. What's up, bro?

SPEAKER_08 1:28:43

Nah, I got a question for Black. Talk to me. Right? If you was trying to get a phone from like a CEO or something or tell them to bring something in for you, like how would you approach them? Like how you how people go about that? Not saying you did it or not, but if people like people that were was doing it, like how they go about it. Do they like whisper to the CEO? They write letters.

SPEAKER_09 1:29:05

Like No, what happened is you got to build a rapport with a CEO. You just don't do that because you just can't just come up and ask any because you asked the wrong one, you go into the hole. The one that ain't thinking about you'll you'll know a rapport of a CO every day as the days go past how either he or she is letting you out, they come to get you, showing you extra privileges that they showing somebody else. The block lockdown, but the CEO might come to your cell, yo, such and such, come on out. You want to clean up, want to get some time out, clean up. You got you going to niggas' doors giving them hot water. Now y'all up there, you and the CO up there conversating, man. I'm about to leave off this block, and you'll see the way the conversation goes on how you can ask them certain things. But you just don't go up to any CO, like, yo, I'm trying to get a phone. Yeah, that's a quick way to go to the hole. So you gotta test the waters. You gotta you just you know how you were talking to a girl, and as y'all keep talking, you're gonna know if she wanna fuck or not. You're gonna know. You're gonna know, you're gonna see the way she keeps touching you, like, oh, you so funny. You know you ain't said nothing funny. You know what I'm saying? So you you gotta, you gotta, you gotta you gotta test the waters, and that may take a year, may take six months, but eventually you'll get your break if you're looking for that. But you gotta test the waters for sure.

SPEAKER_08 1:30:11

Uh I I got one more question, a quick question. Okay. What was your uh main goal like coming home? Like, what did you really want to do? I remember you said feet talk to you about the podcast and stuff, but what did you really want to do when you got home?

SPEAKER_09 1:30:25

What is this first? I ain't have no main goal, bro. I ain't had no main goal, man. I was just so happy to be out.

SPEAKER_08 1:30:31

All that time?

SPEAKER_09 1:30:32

Yeah, I ain't had no main goal, bro. I ain't had nothing in sight that I wanted to do. I just was coming out here, and like I said, I I I went to jail as a 19-year-old man and came home 41 years old. And I'm basically somewhat still a 19-year-old man in a 41-year-old body. Yeah, I mean, and I'm growing, I gotta catch up. Like you probably listened to my episodes by saying niggas that do 20 years, they doing time two times, meaning they're serving their time in the penal system. Then when they come home, they gotta do time to catch up to reality. Because your mind don't grow. You stop, you stop, your mind stop aging once you go to jail until you get back home. I gotta catch up with the fed, I gotta catch up with the phones, I gotta catch up with the cars. Everything changes after five years. After one year, after two months, should change. So imagine after 25 years. So with that, and it's not no excuse, but I never set my mind on like, damn, what do I want to do? I just was going to get all my things, like as far as GED, I got into all types of welding classes. So wherever course I wanted to go, if I could get it, things that can get me it faster, that job or whatever, I got the credentials. I got a GED, I got uh, I got training in this, I got training in this, but I didn't have nothing definite that I looked at and said I wanted to do.

SPEAKER_07 1:31:43

Yeah, what about that uh the business plan you had? The business plan. You had a business plan. You said you were.

SPEAKER_08 1:31:48

Well, I appreciate y'all. I'm gonna let y'all go. All right, man. Thanks, man.

SPEAKER_07 1:31:51

Join you.

SPEAKER_08 1:31:52

See y'all on the 18th.

SPEAKER_07 1:31:53

Okay, cool. You had a business plan. Yeah, the business plan had you was gonna be a stripper. No, I did not have no business plan for the free. Tell us with Jells, who you speaking with? Yo, what's up? This who? Whoa, what's up? Well, how you doing, bro? Where you calling from? I'm from Chicago, bro. What's up with y'all, man? Shout out to Chicago, we're chilling, man. What's going on?

SPEAKER_05 1:32:18

I watch y'all every day, man. I just want to let y'all know, man, the poor black.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:23

I appreciate you, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:24

Burn down, man.

SPEAKER_09 1:32:28

I just be trying to be real, man. I try to give everything that is supposed to be how you supposed to get it, and the only way to do that is give it to you uncut and raw.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:37

You know that. You know that, Black. I'm talking shit. I'll talk with y'all.

SPEAKER_09 1:32:41

Keep it up. Man, thank you, man, for the support, man. You stay safe and stay out of jail, man. Don't go to jail Friday. Because I don't know how it is in Chicago. If you go to jail in Philly on Friday, you ain't getting out to Monday.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:53

No, I'm down here in Charlotte, man. I accidentally lived down here in Charlotte, man.

SPEAKER_09 1:32:57

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:58

I'm just down here chilling, man. Y'all get me through my work days, man. Y'all are crazy as fuck.

SPEAKER_07 1:33:07

Appreciate you, man. Appreciate you.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:09

Y'all take it easy, man.

SPEAKER_07 1:33:11

All right, man. Tell us the jelly's we speaking with. Tell us we speaking with. What's up, man? Shout out to West Philly. We should.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:27

Whoever on that DM, don't look on no report. Anyway, black, you power them up. Keep that shelf on off setting it. Appreciate it. And the the the team out on duty. That's it. Alright, appreciate you, man. Thank you, man. Enjoy your weekend.

SPEAKER_07 1:33:44

Uncut gonna be crazy. Y'all make sure y'all become a member to watch that. Yeah. Yeah. But no, I thought you said that though. Like, I mean, I could be wrong. You had a business plan about being a stripper. Stage name is gonna be Snickers or something like that. Damn what you told me?

SPEAKER_09 1:34:03

No, I ain't never tell you nothing like that, man. You up here playing around. Ain't nobody telling you. I'm gonna tell you, I want to come home and be a stripper and my stage name Snicker. Snickers. Come on, call in. Y'all do we can't do it? Come on, call in, man. See what's going on, man. If you got any questions, man, I want more so of women calling up, man, talking about this stuff too, man. Cause uh jail affects them, man. They gotta have these dudes that go to jail, and they want to know if they should be there and ride, or will the nigga be with them when they come home, man. We can talk about this stuff, man. This stuff is therapeutic for me, for them, you, whoever.

SPEAKER_07 1:34:38

Tell us in the jails. We speaking with. What's up, Zeke? Man, you doing, man?

SPEAKER_08 1:34:46

I'm good. A yo black. Yeah. I'm saying, I was asking about the microwaves earlier. You was asking about the hood.

SPEAKER_09 1:34:54

So, like the the the microwaves and the and the uh turkey logs. Right, right, right. I answered your question. But they sell turkey logs and all that on commissary.

SPEAKER_08 1:35:03

I'm not, but I'm saying though, like the the guards don't be like running down on the stingers and nothing like that.

SPEAKER_09 1:35:07

Well, you have some guards as total dickheads and do. But it's more so, you have more so guards that don't care about that. Because when niggas is cooking, when niggas is eating, they ain't fighting. When niggas is hungry, that's when they're just a weapon and nothing like that. Exactly. Yeah, you can't usually use a stinger as a weapon, though. Like you can, but ain't nobody thinking about going to grab a weapon uh a stinger when it's time to go to battle. They grabbing that knife or that lock and sock or them fists. They ain't gonna be a big thing. All right, we're looking at it Yeah, thank you, man. Enjoy your weekend, bro.

SPEAKER_07 1:35:36

Stay free.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:40

Tell us in the jail, so we're speaking with uh you speaking with Reek. I was just trying to speak to Black real quick.

SPEAKER_09 1:35:48

What's up with you, man? Talk to me, bro.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:52

What's up with you all this g shit?

SPEAKER_09 1:35:57

What you trying to get hit to out man? You've got to be trying to get hit, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:04

If you try and get hit, you gotta find it.

SPEAKER_09 1:36:10

You got the not on duty his ass. He trying to get hit. He won't hear Tenderoni.

SPEAKER_07 1:36:16

Yo to the jails who we speak it with.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:20

This hot boy chilling, man.

SPEAKER_07 1:36:21

Yeah, what's up, hot boy man? Yeah, listen, I see what you said about me. I listen, I just be listen, listen, ain't no safety on this not on duty, man. It's just yeah, I mean no, but black, you gotta understand black being kicking for real knowledge, man. Yeah, he goes over 40.

SPEAKER_09 1:36:37

Where you calling from, bro? Louisville, Kentucky. I know, I knew it. I heard it in your accent. I knew it. I know I know.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:44

Check one two though. Yeah. Check check one two. Man, listen. I work 12-hour shifts, sometimes 16-hour shifts at a juice now detention center, right? Right. So when I get off, I'm straight to the TV to catch you guys. The damn feet, the brother Black be talking about some real you hit him with that knot on duty and throw him off, man.

SPEAKER_07 1:37:10

Hot boy, man. You gotta you got no, he be going way. Listen, something going back to TV. He be going to be a big thing.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:17

It ain't gonna stop me from tuning into you, brothers. I wish I could make it up around the 18th. I'm telling you, man, these juveniles, man. We got a 14-year-old killed his best friend. Excuse me, on my language, but yeah. He took his uh best friend at another 14-year-old, and they just brought him in. Wow. And uh, you know what they do in bed checks. We do bed checks every 15 minutes to check on the we call them residents instead of inmates. And the other night I took a book, I checked on him. He said, Hey, Mr. Billy, uh, they gave me a book to keep my mind off the things that I did. And hey, man, I try I look at it like mentoring these young kids because I don't want it to become a cycle to where they're looking at 20, 21 years, 40. So I just try to take what you brothers say, implement it into these kids at times, cuz that ain't what it won't. That ain't what they want. I'm mad. Blackhead to go through that time like that, man. Yeah, man. But he's cool. I like his style. He he you he utilizing the platform and he's showing up. Black could be after on the block. Yeah, he's hell with speak. Yeah, but I can tell where he's been and what he's trying to do. He don't want to go through that shit. Nah. 30 days a break, black right now.

SPEAKER_09 1:38:29

Man, 30 days ahead of me humble. I mean, I might die. Can't do that right now, man. Getting too old for it, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:38

Man, I ain't from Philly, man, but I I I damn near feel like it watching you brothers every day. So, my thing, man. Keep keep doing what you're doing, man. Cause life really do be life in out here.

SPEAKER_07 1:38:49

For sure, for sure, man. Joy enjoy your weekend, man. Stay free. Continue to uh help those juveniles, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:55

Man, for sure. Off the TLP. Appreciate y'all.

SPEAKER_07 1:38:58

All right, no problem.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:59

All right, one.

SPEAKER_07 1:39:00

All right, one. So yeah, man. Somehow tell us from the jails. Who you speaking with? Yo, it's C2 from Uptown. Shout out Uptown. What's up, C2? What's going on, bro?

SPEAKER_03 1:39:13

Man, I just wanted to call in, say I see y'all on what's this the 18th or the 19th?

SPEAKER_07 1:39:18

Yeah, 18th. 18th.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:20

Yeah, I see y'all. I mean, I'm learning to tell them freaks to stop calling and harassing black, man. But y'all have a good weekend though, y'all.

SPEAKER_09 1:39:28

You too, man. Thank you for the support. It's gonna be it's it's gonna be very entertaining at an alarming rate on the 18th.

SPEAKER_07 1:39:35

I'm already knowing. I see y'all. All right, man. Enjoy your weekend. Tell us in the gels, the phone lines open 215-316-4492. 215-316-4492. Let's get it. Tell us in the gels, we're speaking with Salam Olaykum, man. Why they come a salaam, salah. He hung up. Tell us in the gels, we speaking with. They call back now. Tell us in the gels, we speaking with.

SPEAKER_06 1:40:04

This is Abdul Hakim, salam alaykum.

SPEAKER_07 1:40:07

Waikum Asalam, what's up, Abdul Hakim? How you doing, bro?

SPEAKER_06 1:40:10

Bro, I can't complain, bro. But I wanted to uh if possible, bro. I wanted to make a statement and then I wanted to ask both of y'all a question if y'all don't mind.

SPEAKER_07 1:40:19

Sure.

SPEAKER_06 1:40:20

All right. The quote uh the statement is this is an amazing podcast, like I told y'all once before. Because guys in the streets or just guys that just grew up like how we grew up, get to see both sides all at the same time. So that's the beautiful thing of the public, the podcast and blackness always keeping it 100, like it ain't nothing. So my question for you, Fig, is this, bro, like with uh, because how y'all explain the stories and all that, like all the fellas that been in jail, been jammed up and all that stuff like that. What how were you able to change and then like gain success in life, bro, without like slipping and falling like in the cracks?

SPEAKER_07 1:41:05

Um, well, for me, um just you know, just just remaining patient and staying focused because at the end of the day, when these guys went in and my guys got indicted, I always felt like I needed to do something else. I thought that even before them getting indicted and going to jail, is that we had talent to do anything. Because we were just the streets doing so much. But I thought we had talent to do so much. We were already running businesses, we already had was indulging in real estate and so many other things, and just whatever you you name it, but I just felt like we still had an opportunity to do something different. So I just made it, you know, my intention to just be different. And I felt like I couldn't be in the streets forever. So I decided to change it up and we're here now, man. You know, it was hard, bro.

SPEAKER_06 1:41:48

You did that, bro. I'm not gonna lie, Fig. Like, I gotta commend you on that, bro, because like I'm one of the ones that fell, bro, did a whole bunch of time and all that stuff like that, bro. And then trying to like catch up, like how black be speaking about to everybody. But bro, you motivation, bro. I ain't gonna lie, because it's like you show brothers that uh if you got a true brother, he's gonna hold you down, but you also don't have to stay on the path and like kill your life.

SPEAKER_07 1:42:16

Right. I agree. Appreciate that.

SPEAKER_06 1:42:19

And uh black, absolutely. And black, my question for you is this, bro. Like, bro, you be speaking nothing but the truth, bro. Like, for anybody who's been in there, we can commend everything that you're saying. But for you, the question for you as black, is this, bro? How like, because now at my age, I'm 43, bro. So I can, you know how like you don't really care what a person's opinion is of you and stuff like that. At what point for you was like, were you able to just be like authentic as you is, bro? You just tell everybody straight up, like as fit, not on duty, but you just be keeping it a hundred, bro.

SPEAKER_09 1:42:59

I've been like that from the beginning of time. I ain't I ain't come into life with nothing, man. I came out that I came out my mother's wound and fell on the floor and been there ever since. So it's like, what's the sense of lying? If a person gonna take you now, I have lied before, everybody lied before. But getting older, like the the background I come from, man, if I was to put a book out, it'll be a bestseller, man. All the things I done seen. I haven't even begun to even scratch the surface of telling you about my trials and errors of going through life up until my age now. And I just learned to accept things, man. Like it is what it is. Either you're gonna take me or you're gonna leave me, but I'm not gonna leave you to the imagination of something else. No, I'm gonna give it to you straight, and that's just it. I've been in jail almost, I'm 46 years old. Majority of my 46 years been in the penal system, been in foster care. That's another form, that's another aspect of the penal system. So it's like it brings, I don't know. It's just it's just like, man, if you take it, you don't. I don't care either way.

SPEAKER_06 1:43:56

Bro, I respect that, Black. Like, I really do, bro, because at this point in life, bro, say like around 38 for me, bro. I was like, man, forget what everybody got to say. I'm just gonna be me. Yeah, but I respect it, I respect how you be giving it raw, bro. I ain't gonna lie, black. Like, the thing is that a man a hole in the back of his mind. You you like come right to the surface with no thought process, like, should I say this or should I not say this, bro? And I respect that, bro. I do.

SPEAKER_09 1:44:23

Thank you, man. I appreciate it. Can I ask you a question before we let you go? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Hey sir, hey, where'd you say you call it from again? Kentucky. Baltimore. I called y'all uh what you call it, like last year. Yeah, Baltimore, bro.

SPEAKER_06 1:44:33

You was like, man, I know you Baltimore.

SPEAKER_09 1:44:35

Yeah, I was about to say that because I thought you said Philly. I was about to say, man, you got a Baltimore accent. Yup, man, thank you.

SPEAKER_06 1:44:45

Because, like, we they need it's needed, bro. It's needed, bro.

SPEAKER_09 1:44:48

Thank you, man. Appreciate it. And that's what we definitely gonna do. This give me the fire. When I hear, you know, people applaud me in this manner and tell me that it's working, that make me keep wanting to get that make me want to get down the dirt even more.

SPEAKER_06 1:45:00

Like, uh, just one last thing, fellas. Like, black, I'm gonna envy. This for both of y'all. Like, I would like how the other brother was on there uh saying he was working with the kids and stuff, bro. Like, when I came home, I ended up working with the kids, bro. But I only can touch like 20 of them at a time. Bro, y'all got it, bro, with this right here, because this joint is online and it's like anybody can touch it at any time. They can access y'all, bro. So it gotta take off, bro.

SPEAKER_09 1:45:29

Mm-hmm. You only got one place to go, bro.

SPEAKER_06 1:45:33

Yeah, yeah, y'all exactly, Brad. Black, it's ain't doing nothing but going up, bro. But I don't want to take up all y'all time, bro. But salam will rock me to law better cottage, my brother.

SPEAKER_07 1:45:42

Why they can my salamakes a lot here better catch him. Yeah, y'all. Yo, yo. Listen, man, I ain't gonna lie, I gotta say something to you. I I really I enjoy these uh this this little I know we be in the car, man. You know, we all I gotta hang with you all day. They come in here and we talk. We don't talk uh the crazy thing about it is we don't even talk about the content. We just come in here and just talk, man. And um, you know, we just come in here and just speak just real facts, not just not made up scripted, nothing. But um he's gonna be doing uh, you know, uh cooking with black next week and also gonna have Talisman Gels uncut, which is gonna be crazy because it's members only, and he's gonna be I'll say it's gonna be no no chains to hold the hold hold him uh hold him still as far as you know what he gotta say. You know, so make sure y'all just be available, uh become a member for that. Y'all able to, because we can't just put it out because you know we'll get flagged and so many things, so we gotta make it uncut. And uh it'll be available. July 18th will be our live event. Um July 18th at World Cafe Live, um, 34th in uh Walnut. It'll be a crazy event, and it's something special planned as well on that date. There's gonna be a lot of good uh good vibes from the people that's gonna be there. We got the whole community coming out, people coming from other places. Uh the podcast is uh is reaching uh different states, different cities, uh different people all around the world. You know, whites, blacks, Mexicans, you name it. It's uh it's uh amazing how when you start something and you put the work in and where it can where it can be. And we haven't even you know done nothing yet. But also thank you, thank you to y'all who listen to us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Y'all got our podcast in the top 200 already. We did that in a year in the top 200 podcast. Y'all know that it's you know thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of podcasts, and we have uh you know reached the top 200. We it fluctuate in and uh in our extra top 200, but we're in there top 200 now from the emails and and notifications that I get. But we are and also we in a top uh five, ten percent of podcasts based off of listens and uh and and and downloads, but we wouldn't do it without y'all listening to us and and following us and being a part of our journey. We thank y'all, we're gonna continue to be who we are today, not gonna switch up and change and or or or do anything different. Um we're just gonna try to improve our ourselves and our lives, try to be better. So we got a few more minutes before we get up out of here. Y'all can call 215-316-4492, 215-316-4492 if you have any questions. Shout out to everybody who's watching on Instagram, uh, watching on Kick, Twitch, uh, YouTube, um everybody that's watching, man. Be here. Anything else you want to say, man? You know the weekend is here, man.

SPEAKER_09 1:48:38

The weekend, man. The heat is out, the meat is out, and the weekend is here. That's a recipe for disaster if you let it be. You're out there, you're getting drunk, having a good time off, and some bam, here go ham hog walk past you, and you done reached out and touched. Don't do that. Ask that lady first. Be mindful, be cautious now, be vigilant in your thinking capacity. And that's all we ask, man. Let's get back to work on Monday, man. That's it. Again, man, watch for the crazy clips. The crazy clips is coming out at 12 noon tomorrow, Saturday and Sunday. We load it, we locked and loaded, and we ready, man. We ready to bring you content at an alarming rate, all facts, all true. And sometimes we might speak something and it may not be correct us. Please. We stand to be corrected. We ain't perfect, we ain't human beings just like y'all are. I might say some off-the-wild crazy shit, it might be all the way over there with it. Please rule me back in.

SPEAKER_07 1:49:27

And we know, you know, you're doing something right, because somebody said something to me that I never heard in my entire life since I've been since I've known you. And I've never heard this. Nobody ever said this. And when I heard this, I almost cried. Today we was at um uh Chipotle, and a girl was like, That's black, that's that's boy black from uh Telsman Gels. He's so handsome. I never heard a bike cluck your handsome before.

SPEAKER_09 1:49:50

Oh my god, man. This man said I ain't know. Who said that?

SPEAKER_07 1:49:52

Who said that? The girl behind the joint. She said, That's black, he's so handsome. Which one said that? Huh? Which one said that? One had like tattoos on it. For real? Yeah, she said. You lying. Why you ain't tell me? But you we were talking about something else. I'm like, I never heard a bike say that about you actually. You lied, we lied. We lied, man. You lied. I've never heard a bike say that ever, man. But listen, man.

SPEAKER_09 1:50:15

Tickets $35. We got the we had the link up today. All right. Y'all just got the guy, uh, what's the link? How can they get a ticket? Because somebody just said how much the tickets.

SPEAKER_07 1:50:23

The link is it, the link is up there in uh in um in the chat. Tickets is available. You know, um, we will uh next week we'll we'll be giving away a few tickets to uh some callers who call in. We'll have a special give some tickets away, so you know, for those who call in. And um we'll uh have the tickets for you. So we we wanna um say thank y'all for for chilling with us today, man. Thank y'all for uh being a part of our journey, man. Um also don't forget y'all, once again, July 18th. It's gonna be crazy, man. Got some special people coming through there. It's gonna be this the whole city of Philadelphia is gonna be there. From what I understand, I don't know how it's gonna be, but even if it's 10 people in there, we're gonna have a you know a hell of a time. But thank y'all. And listen, stay safe, don't get locked up, man, because you know what you get locked up to today. Won't see you till Monday. Weekend is gonna be in the trash. And remember to uh love those who love you. Stay safe, man, stay focused, stay positive. Listen, man, and whatever happened to you in life that's that's bad or negative, it's only a test. Just keep pushing through it and you'll be okay, man. Anything else you want to say before we get out of here? Don't go to jail. Not today, not any day, but especially today.