IS IT WORTH IT ? : TALES FROM THE JAILS LIVE !!!!

Is it really worth risking your freedom, your family, and your future for one bad decision?

On this episode of **Tales From The Jails LIVE**, Braheem and Tawfiq have an honest conversation about the streets, prison, consequences, and the choices that can change your life forever. They break down what people often fail to consider before making a move that could cost them years behind bars.

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SPEAKER_08 5:16

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SPEAKER_07 6:24

Monday. Monday. I'm looking at the uh the attendance bell, which would be how many people was in the chat. Yeah. I don't know, it's looking a little light right now.

SPEAKER_08 6:34

There's gonna be a bunch of people there because you know.

SPEAKER_07 6:36

Yeah, but it still looks a little right.

SPEAKER_08 6:38

It's Monday. July 18th is like it shaped up to be a nice event on July 18th at World Cafe Live. Seems like it's gonna be a good event this Saturday. And a lot of people are calling, reaching out. Uh, so we got some, you know, some things to look forward to. But today's podcast is gonna be called Is It Worth It? Is it really worth it or is it worth it? Uh speaking in regards to, you know, breaking law, making bad decisions, you know, uh, you know, selling drugs, killing people, whatever it may be, is it really worth it all the time? So we just had an incident. We spoke about it last week, right? Somebody that we know just got indicted, and then they just had a big press conference about the indictment. Uh, the person that we know, he's a part of that indictment, you know, and they were breaking down the details of it. And me and you were here, we was on our way here to the studio, we were talking about um the importance of recognizing whether something is worth it, and also spoke about people not recognizing it and do they get a pass because people need money or all the different things we were talking about. But for me, I'll just speak about a situation where though that we always go through, we always see, is our people going to jail for majority of the time for selling drugs, getting indicted, and we say this thing that or they needed money or they wanted money or they tried, was trying to get some money to feed their family. Ultimately, it's not worth it because at the end of the day, once you get caught, you're gonna leave your family out here to struggle. You know what I'm saying? No matter what money you got put up, it's gonna run out because it just it just drug money don't last. Everybody I know that that hustle to sold drugs in the streets, nine times out of ten, they get caught up and go to jail, get killed, or something negative happens to them along the way. So for me, all the heartache is not worth it now. You can look at the money and so I'm gonna get money now, I'm gonna do this right now, I'm gonna do this. But the same guys we're talking about that's in these penal systems, that's serving all this time, will love to come home and work at Burger King. No knock on people that work at Burger King or McDonald's or whatever the case may be. But I'm just speaking about a job that's like an entry-level job for anyone to do. Something like that. People will break, will break their neck to go get a job to work there, opposed to spending 20, 30 years in prison for selling dope. You know what I'm saying? So for me, that's one of the reasons why I say it's worth it, it's not worth it. What's your opinion on that?

SPEAKER_07 9:10

I'm still trying to come up with the answer, man, from a from a from a civilian, right? From a law abidison civilian standpoint, which I take the standpoint today, the standpoint I just mentioned to the audience. But I'm being real, I'm being real, like, damn. I could go out there, you know. You said the McDonald's, you said you'd rather do the you might got three, four kids. You know what I mean? Woman bills, you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_08 9:36

McDonald's with that paying a week. I don't know. Some people it depends on what you're I don't know.

SPEAKER_07 9:40

I think maybe maybe if you want more, maybe you work harder to get something passed. Not to say, like, again, the the uh piggyback off you say I'm not saying nobody at McDonald's or Burger King. It's like you say, is uh it's levels to it. We're gonna be honest. Exactly. We're gonna be honest with it. So I think I I think I, you know, it because I I'm I'm thinking about the penitentiary part of it. But you can't get around that. I can't get around the penitentiary part, but I can't get around the part that when I come in, my babies, it ain't no cool, hot, hot or heat on, and it's cold outside. Ain't no food in the refrigerator. I'm a man. Nobody never said that, though. No, no, no. I'm saying this is what I'm thinking about. Okay. This is what I'm thinking of. I'm telling you a story. I'm trying to get you into my brain. Okay. So this is what I'm me. I'm thinking about like, damn, is it worth it? You know, a lot of guys, they got it's no excuses, but it's real live facts to why a lot of dudes can't get employment and all that. Uh like right now, I got a gun case, a fresh gun case. It's hard for me to get certain jobs. They might let me in at the what you call a re-entry level. They might not. I haven't tried that part yet, but it's I see the the fight, you know what I mean? But give me ah, I don't know, man. May I I I is it worth it? I'm not gonna sit up here and say it is because then ain't no time penitentiary worth it. So now do I ask myself, do one may make the move without thinking of the consequences of it's worth it or not? Just think about it. We're gonna dig deep into it when you got that type of defeat at your table, your front door, and the defeat I'm talking about is with no heat, no no food in your fridge. And you ain't one of them bulls, you trying to really make the ends meet. You got a little odd end job over here, made a deuce today, but that that little job ain't coming back around for like another week and a half. Then you might be over here and something might be getting a little shit. Just ain't adding up. It ain't adding up from a but again, is the penitentiary better than this? I don't know. I don't know if it's in the the the I don't know if the answer is in the person that's actually thinking about committing the oh my goodness, boy. This this is an emotional topic for me, man. And and and and then the person that you know that's on this indictment that you talked about, that they just let Mr. Uncle Larry, Uncle Larry ain't playing, man. And you know, he they got a bunch of allegations now, but from where we came from to be back wrapped up into something like this of this nature, I know he's is mind-blowing to this individual sitting there right now.

SPEAKER_08 12:06

Is it worth it? Exactly. And do you think that if you sit down and you got an opportunity to speak to him right now, do you think he would say, Man, no, it wasn't worth it? Do you think that he would tell you like nah wasn't worth it?

SPEAKER_07 12:18

I don't know what that man tells me right now, man. If I got a chance to get in front of him right now in his holding cell, the question.

SPEAKER_08 12:26

No, no, no, no. The question, the question that you, the only question you can ask him.

SPEAKER_07 12:29

Yeah, yeah, that's what I don't know what he did.

SPEAKER_08 12:32

Or was it worth it? On the other side of that, yep. You just came back from doing what, a dub in the feds? You just did a dub. Been home what, three years, four years? How many been home? Probably about four or five. Came home before or five years. Now I'm about to go back and do another pie, possibly looking at maybe a dub or better, but you always talk about the uh the aspect of what the feds, how they do. You come back in front of us with the same exact charge. What is that called? Uh it's a double lot. What is it called? What you mean? The gun and the gun in the drugs is called the 924 C come back in any type.

SPEAKER_07 13:09

Any type, but it ain't just that. It ain't just that. It's any charge. No, I'm saying, but that that's a 924c that he already had, right? Well, as of man, I'm not sure, but uh if if if I'm thinking harder, I think he might have, but I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_08 13:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 13:22

But what then he gotta lose this actual case? Yeah, I mean, I don't know what what the ramifications is. All I see is what they're pointing at towards. I don't, you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_08 13:32

What's the feds conviction rate? Oh, feds have a very high conviction rate. Do the feds come after you unless they really think they got you or they got something?

SPEAKER_07 13:38

Or does they come at you when they think they put the, when they when they have the time, put a hell of a story together to try to convict you?

SPEAKER_08 13:43

Yes, they do. Exactly. Now, just do you think the feds is coming at after him without being prepared?

SPEAKER_07 13:49

Um I'm not saying that they ain't prepared, but I ain't saying that they prepared either.

SPEAKER_08 13:55

Okay. All right, but but we know that they are normally prepared when they come.

SPEAKER_07 13:59

Yes, that normally they prepared. Okay, so they throw a little bullshit in there. They're throwing a little sauce on something. Yeah, and they still have it.

SPEAKER_08 14:06

But they already had a cake baked to throw the sauce on. So right now, they said that they found two firearms in his car. Yeah. That right there alone, they said that we found two firearms alone in his car. We went to his apartment and found fentanyl pills in his apartment. Those two together, what does that consist of?

SPEAKER_07 14:27

Oh, that's that's that's uh 924C. Yes. That's 924C, and that's how that's Jonah's getting carried.

SPEAKER_08 14:33

How was he how was he gonna say that those them guns and that's the one?

SPEAKER_07 14:37

I I don't know how is he gonna do that? This is not the end of the the end of the I don't know how. I just know that he had these charges against him. All right, and he's in a world of trouble if he can't prove otherwise.

SPEAKER_08 14:48

All right, so but I'm saying the chips are stacked in the in a favor of in a negative manner against him. Yes. So not in his favor, with that alone, just have to even go to go to this trial alone and have to fight this stressful case alone. That's gonna take years off his life right there.

SPEAKER_07 15:04

Two to three years, two shit, three to five years, man. The way the way they coming out and the magnitude of remember, we were just talking about how the young boys nowadays getting caught and they got a table full of guns. And what happened with the bricks and the money? Now here go the one that you were talking about. With the bricks and the money. That the stuff that they showed on that that that that platform of evidence was an alarming amount in large quantities. And what was what what did Trump refer to the fentanyl as? He referred, he classified, he said he's starting to classify fentanyl now as a weapon of mass destruction. Okay, so then weapons of mass destruction includes tsunami missiles, atomic bombs, you know, I mean tsunami missiles. Yes, yes. What was that at? A tsunami missile? What was that at? Man, supposed to all that shit that they blow anything away. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but it sounded like it just did something crazy. The way you delivered it, yeah, but yeah, but a tsunami missile.

SPEAKER_01 16:14

Yo, you see how that's just so like a heavy and everything going over there. Yeah, really? Tsunami missile, yeah, man. Yeah, like what?

SPEAKER_14 16:22

Come on, man. Go ahead. See what you see what you were saying, man. What happened? What up? Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_08 16:27

Um so they so Trump declared fentanyl as a uh weapon of mass destruction.

SPEAKER_14 16:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 16:33

Okay. So it's up there equivalent to a tsunami missile.

SPEAKER_07 16:40

You goddamn right. It just sounds crazy, don't it? It's just sound like it's a tsunami. It actually sounds like it did something crazy.

SPEAKER_08 16:51

Yeah, so him going up against this is like, you know, he went back in there, and uh now he's you know, back in the situation whereas though he's like he's real, he's real really realizing that it's not it wasn't worth it, man. At all. Yeah. I remember you first told me that, you know, situation, you know, possibly that, and it was like, dang.

SPEAKER_07 17:17

Yeah, man, I was sad, man. I was sad, like, damn, man, is it really worth it, man? And like me, I'm different from talking from you, from your standpoint, from from a good standpoint in life, not to say you're well off and not to say you fucked all the way off, but from a standpoint, you know, it's different. Everybody got a different, you know, accord to what they grind to in life. And for me, speaking from my little spot, I got them dug in on this little planet, which ain't too, you know, I mean, got too much grass on it, but uh yeah, I mean it's about a ball on this little patch upset door, bone drop.

SPEAKER_01 17:53

You over there with roses and dick, man.

SPEAKER_07 17:56

But yeah, man, we're gonna go and get back to this little speaking from this standpoint, it's like man, damn if you do, damn if you don't, bro.

SPEAKER_08 18:11

But for me, like I said, I said that the reason why I say this, I say it's not worth it because the everything that comes along with it is just for one, like like like Dot said today in the in the in the chat, waiting two, three years to fight this case. Yeah. Right? That counts against your sentence, though. Okay. Yeah, so if you give 40 years, three come off. But you got you gotta sit down here at the um at the camp. FDC. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Whatever. At the detention center. And fight this for three years. Three years of your life in that place.

SPEAKER_07 18:42

Or four years or five years.

SPEAKER_08 18:43

Yeah, okay. You sitting there fighting. Yes. Right? Yes. And then if you lose, you go to another whole other place where your family probably didn't become West Virginia, California, California, Midwest, Midwest, down south, yeah, upstate New York, South Pole, Alaska, uh, Puerto Rico, everywhere.

SPEAKER_07 19:04

Yeah. Hawaii. They got FCIs in Hawaii. Is it federal pen in uh I read the Hawaii somebody might be? Yeah, but the weather is just good. Yeah, yeah, they got federal descension center over there too. What is it called? Uh I'm not sure the name Honolulu or some shit. Really? Yeah, yeah, some wild shit like that. Some up DC Honolulu. Oh, really? Yeah, right there. You crazy as shit. That's what the Samoans, Samoans and all that be, right? Uh uh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, touch right down over there in their jones.

SPEAKER_08 19:30

Yeah. Well, anyway, like do they got the cat, they got uh prisons in Alaska too?

SPEAKER_07 19:36

Yeah, they got prisons in Alaska. They got FCIs and the United States, they patrols the whole United States. They use every corner of this gem.

SPEAKER_08 19:43

Oh, Alaska, you be up there cold, up there all year round.

SPEAKER_07 19:46

I just feel bad for this individual that's on this diamond, man. Good man. I don't know if I can name it. He got his got his course that he got a fight in front of him, but I know there's a million thoughts in this man's head right now. Telling. Is that one of them?

SPEAKER_08 20:02

I can't even tell, but tell me. But listen, listen, telling is a normal thought. Really, it's just when you act on it, which makes it because people always think about telling. I ain't think about no motherfucking telling because you're crazy as shit.

SPEAKER_07 20:19

You talk about some people always no, you'll think about it this time around.

SPEAKER_08 20:23

But they might think about it the first time. Nah, nah, we know people that we but it's not a normal thought.

SPEAKER_07 20:29

It's not a normal name. You name it this. You had some niggas that probably thought about it the first time and didn't do it, but that didn't come to my mind when I was at FDC.

SPEAKER_08 20:36

Like, man, I'm about to boy, they better be no no no, not not saying you thought like that, but it came across your mind, yo.

SPEAKER_07 20:42

No, absolutely not. Okay, it never crossed my mind not one time. I was young, arrogant, on fire. Now, this time, say if I get indicted today and I got them chumpies out there. I'm gonna let you know right now I'm being that motherfucker like boy, Lou Louise. I don't know that nigga.

SPEAKER_08 20:56

But uh not them chumpies out there, but now I'm duty. Yeah, maybe but what I'm saying though is all right, maybe it's not maybe maybe I said that wrong, but maybe that creeps into the mind of individuals who are you know weak on their last limb as far as their stress levels is high. You know what I'm saying? You know, family, you know, family out there complaining, kids out there. Does this does this brother have have kids? Uh no. Okay, so that factor is going, buddy. I'm sure you got a mom and a dad or some loved ones out there. Or maybe a significant other that he has out there.

SPEAKER_07 21:34

Yeah. Yeah. Israel get real crunchy right now.

SPEAKER_08 21:38

Yeah, and then ultimately what happens is now you're about to be taken away from your family, going way, way out, possibly. You know, and it's not worth it. You know, for me. For me, it's not worth it. It's my opinion, it's not worth it. I didn't been in it. I done been in the streets, I done seen it all, I didn't done it all. Like I said, if I lose everything a day or tomorrow, me personally. I'm not going to go back to doing that. I'll take my chances on getting a job. You're a strong man, bro. Working my way back up. You're a very strong man.

SPEAKER_07 22:08

And we are. You're one, so you have a said you're not going back to bed. Yeah, I know, I know, I know, but the right look ain't come across my plate yet. This one looking like the right. The right test ain't come across.

SPEAKER_08 22:19

To really test you to see what you see how strong you really are. Exactly. May Allah protect you from that.

SPEAKER_07 22:24

Because a million might come up to me and be like, yo, he goes bird of that fitting. Just take it down the street. You get 120 back, you take 30 and bring me 90. And take it where? And take it where? Right there. So that might be a test for you. Is it a test for me? That is a boy. That I'm like, how many? You want to do this more than once? Three, four times a day. You say you think you're man, listen, bro. The right test that see all that, me transferring, going to New York, getting the fed. Yeah, that's that's a test that I'm going to win because I'm not doing that.

SPEAKER_08 22:57

But you still have it. You still don't. You don't know if you're strong enough to really deal with it.

SPEAKER_07 23:02

If a nigga came to me right now and said, yo, black, I need you. I'm like, what's up? I'm in West Philly. He like, yo, you got a will? I'm like, yeah, well, what's up? He's like, I need you. You know what 27 Lehigh? Yeah, I know what it's at. Yo, but folks, we can you take this bag here, man. He's gonna give you a hundred thousand dollars. You take 30, bring me 70. I'm out. I ain't looking in that bag. It's different.

SPEAKER_08 23:23

Yeah, but that's a test. They kept saying, but uh they told you listen, they told you, yo, it's it's it's two bricks to fatty. Hey, take it over there, and I'm gonna give you this break.

SPEAKER_07 23:32

That's a different yeah, that's a that's the one I might. That's a that's a shake. I might hit numbers. Number. That's a shake right there. I might be all I gotta do is run this here real fast. That's a test I might be willing to go ahead and take, man. You crazy. All I got number. Because if I if I make it, I'm good. Now the test is gonna be added to that. Do I try this again?

SPEAKER_08 23:53

No, go and kind of get behind you.

SPEAKER_07 23:56

But I'm pulling over. No, no, you get behind me, I'm pulling over, jumping out, faggot stuff out, like that cigarette's gonna be in over.

SPEAKER_08 24:03

That's how they're gonna get you. That's how they gonna get you. What is this fool doing? Crossing uh the dagger uh uh school. I mean the zoo bridge, happ it out, shake it off his t-shirt.

SPEAKER_07 24:14

What is he doing? But they but they're like you say, this test, man. Everybody have a test that you know either they could fail or lose. And everybody has their own personal tests, man. Everybody has their own personal test, man. Whatever it might not be about nothing financially, it might be something to do with fornicating or adultery against your wife or you know, or or we're talking about the jail test, though. Yeah, yeah, but I'm just saying, well, with a jail test. You're talking about the jail test, but yeah. The jail test is that money. The jail test is when them. If something something tempts you, and either you do it or you don't. Is you man enough, and then that's one of them joints to be because you know you could think you're doing a test and don't nobody know about it. You think you could be, you could think you're being slick and getting you a little something off, but once you get booked, everybody gonna find out about it. Exactly. See a test, these are the tests that's done in private. And only the results of the tests will show everybody that you didn't do it.

SPEAKER_08 25:04

Shout out to Terrell Walker, 1312. Yep. Well, we need to. He's talking about you're gonna be here, uh, like we need starting to go for me for black. He already know. I mean, yeah. My run is done with paying for lawyers, man, and all that. I'm done. Uh like I didn't get a lawyer. I don't know how much money I didn't pay for lawyers and and bells, and I'm still sending money to the jails. But I'm done. I'm done sending these these uh these kids, these lawyers, families to through daughters and sons to college, man. I'm done. Unless my guy was trying to, you know, trying to, you know, defend his family, but I I can't support the the street stuff no more. I I'm gracefully bowing out. And it's not that I'm just turning my back on guys that's in the street.

SPEAKER_07 25:52

No, but I understand that you're gonna be able to do that. I'm I'm graciously. I like to be and laugh, but I think real good. I just look, I was born at night, not last night.

SPEAKER_08 25:59

I've been paying lawyers since we're about 15, 16, man. Yeah. I'm my 40s now. Over 20 years. Over 30 years. Yeah. Like paying lawyers. Yeah. Dropping money out the lawyers, picking this up, taking this money, like paying this bell. You tired now. Yeah, man, we older. We older now, man. We should be we shouldn't be going to jail for selling drugs no more, man. We shouldn't be going to jail for that, man. Right now. We old.

SPEAKER_07 26:24

So if any one of your guys got locked up right now, we leave out of the studio. Any one of your main guys got locked up, one of their wives called right now at the studio, like, damn, such and such, you know, I got a little something here. You think you can? If anything, if I don't know the course of it, but we know the course. We know how this shit go. What's your next joint? What's your next.

SPEAKER_08 26:42

If it's a guy that didn't, that I didn't help out before?

SPEAKER_07 26:45

No, I ain't say that. I say one of your main core guys. I ain't saying that you ain't got nothing to do with one of your main core guys.

SPEAKER_08 26:52

My main core guys he's out here selling drugs in the street for that.

SPEAKER_07 26:54

You ain't, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 26:55

And I didn't know nothing about it.

SPEAKER_07 26:56

Yeah, yeah. Well, you ain't had nothing to do with it or no nothing, but however you want to paint this egg.

SPEAKER_08 27:01

Nah, I ain't uh yeah, I wouldn't do it. I'm done. Everybody knows I'm done. Not like I'm just doing it now, I'm done. It's over. Uh it's over. I asked her what does she need for herself? Is she alright? The kids got what they need, you know, but I'm not. Everybody knows I'm done.

SPEAKER_14 27:23

Right.

SPEAKER_08 27:23

I it's not something that I'm just saying. Everybody knows they can't call me for loyal money no more. Right. Ain't no more call me no more for loyal money. I didn't did it too many years. We are great. Maybe I still answer that and they can call you now because I haven't done it before.

SPEAKER_07 27:35

Yeah, I've been doing it for so many. See, my run ain't done yet. Yeah. So I get that part of it.

SPEAKER_08 27:39

I might say, yo, call young, call black, man.

SPEAKER_07 27:41

No, no, no. You ain't got to uh offer somebody financial services through another venue. You don't have to do none of that in the nature. I just no, no, no. Let them either come and cross-finding contact to that financial source. You don't have to definitely render services to a financial source.

SPEAKER_08 27:58

It's not, it's not that I'm turning my back on people, that everybody know that I'm I'm done.

SPEAKER_07 28:03

Yeah. Uh Juke pop fit to fit feet line, he can't help it. Feet gonna be right there. I've got it, boss. I've got I's got such and such for me. Nah, I've done, man.

SPEAKER_08 28:14

I told everybody I'm done, man.

SPEAKER_07 28:15

One of the guys.

SPEAKER_08 28:16

One of the guys. Yeah, man. Listen, guys, all my guys are there. Listen, they know me. Listen, if you go to jail, don't call myself, you hear me? We live in, we're trying to do stuff different. We're trying to build things differently.

SPEAKER_01 28:27

If you go to jail, don't call myself. Yeah, listen.

SPEAKER_08 28:29

This man is crazy as hell. We trying to do things different, man. Like, yo, listen. And if you do go to jail, make sure you got some money out here for your family and for yourself to handle that. Like, because I ain't selling no drugs. I ain't I ain't out here running the streets, man. I'm done.

SPEAKER_07 28:43

I get it though.

SPEAKER_08 28:44

It's over, man. I get it. I get it. It's over, man. You know, because we what happens is that that turned into a lot. Once you pick up the phone and do that, now is but no, I go, I will, I will put some money on their books, though, probably.

SPEAKER_07 28:59

Oh, you vicious, yo, you load them books, so you got no problem with that.

SPEAKER_08 29:02

That got you for your books. You know, how everything going with you, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_07 29:05

Yeah. My son needs a little pair of sneaks, his birthday code.

SPEAKER_11 29:09

You cool, you're cool.

SPEAKER_08 29:16

Little 40 boss. Little 40s and 50s. That's the lawyer's expensive boy. Boy, they they want a chunk. And then when it time to pay, everybody, all eyes be on you like this. Yeah, I got uh nobody got nothing. And then you sitting there looking there, holding the bag, like you gotta pay for everything. That joint ain't cool, bro.

SPEAKER_07 29:35

Man, you might got it, you might, you might got something with there, but I I haven't reached that. I mean, I'm the most I ever.

SPEAKER_08 29:42

But if my guy go to jail for like put defending his family, you know, or something happening where it's though he didn't, you know. I mean, like if my guy got caught with a gun, he's trying to protect himself, he got all right. You got caught with a gun. What's the bill? I'm gonna come get you ASAP. But you out here running the drug ring, you out here, you out here chirping, getting the popping.

SPEAKER_07 30:01

They told me I had a little black bag on the side of the studio the whole time they come get me. I might look at you a little fun. I see you.

SPEAKER_08 30:06

I see you like, nah, you just hold up, you just did that. Like, but then I see you, they you know, no, they just grabbed, he got indicted. I'm like, for real? I'm gonna be like, hold up now, what was going on? I had no idea he was doing this. So in the conversation, when he, because you know the call is gonna come through and say, yo, listen, yo, feet, you know, uh, hey, I need you, I mean, you make sure the lawyer type. Hey, bro, I ain't got nothing to do with that, man. I love you, man, but you know, you shouldn't be asking me, especially if you run in the streets like that. You should the crazy thing about it is we hustle in the streets to to prepare ourselves to pay for it. Yeah, exactly. And go to jail. But I didn't get a chance to complete my hustling. What's that?

SPEAKER_07 30:48

I need a little help. If you look at the-I didn't get a chance to complete it, put my shit up.

SPEAKER_08 30:53

I get it, but that's the mental aspect of it is crazy. They tell you to hustle up money to save it for when you get locked up. That don't make sense. That's like telling you like that you're going to jail. You're definitely going to jail. Or make sure that you got money for your funeral. If something tells me that, like, oh listen, you make sure you're on. I'm on a long line of business. No, no, no. Like, I can't, that can't happen to me working at McDonald's. They ain't telling me that working at McDonald's. They're telling me, listen, man, just make sure you work on, you come to work on time, you get a check on Friday. That sounds a lot better than make sure you got lawyer money, make sure you got money for your funeral. That sounds a whole lot better. Just make sure you listen, can be home time and get paid on. That's a whole lot better. I'll take that.

SPEAKER_07 31:36

Now, I want to talk about the flip side to this. Well, another aspect to the situation we're talking about with a good friend of mine, one of my coder friends, just recently got caught up. These motherfuckers always come get they like, I'm just looking at the magnitude of how much they knew, what they knew about it. Like, and then it wasn't even like no long conspiracy that they was watching for. Like, the streets is pretty much sold up, especially if you try and get some big money. Yeah. If you out here nickel and diamond, you might get you a couple years run until you start. But the more you swell up, the more they swell up. You know what I mean? But the more you just think about it. You getting you some money, man, it's gonna eventually come to an end, man. You you going through this this state and this state, and y'all, y'all getting busted with two, three bricks of fat no bricks. We ain't talking about bundles, we're talking about bricks of the shit that he called a weapon of mass destruction. Six guns here, four guns there. This is like this shit, you in a big time organization. Yeah. Like, and the thing about it is these people is no getting away with like you see all these indictments that just recently happened within the last past 12 months. They done got about four to five different groups up out of here.

SPEAKER_08 32:48

And the feds is hitting you. Listen, once they not playing, they coming. Once the feds get on you, those who are out there who don't know, once the feds get on you, all this stuff about I got the money over here, they know every spot you got where you at. We couldn't even figure out how he got, how they found out that he was at that spot. And they knew it. They knew exactly where to go. What place, what how do they know that?

SPEAKER_07 33:11

Like, it's it's it's so.

SPEAKER_08 33:12

You in an apartment. You in an apartment complex that got 50, 60 or more units, and they automatically know where you at, go right to your drink. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 33:24

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_08 33:25

Somewhere that wasn't even in your name. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_07 33:29

Like, how like the magnitude of that is loud, bro. How the fuck you even know I was here?

SPEAKER_08 33:36

Any money you got, any place you got, they hitting, I don't they hitting your mom's crib, your dad crib, your aunt crib, your sister's crib, your friend crib, your girl crib, your little boy crib, your little club. If you went there one time and they know that you went there, they're coming there searching. So you gotta try to hide the money, all this different stuff. And guess what?

SPEAKER_07 33:54

They don't need a warrant for your name. I seen that clearly. They could come to your house looking for me and serve you a warrant, Braheen Jackson. This is your house. You tall feek page. This is your house with your name on it. I don't even live here, I'm just here. And got the means to come in here and search your shit from top to bottom.

SPEAKER_08 34:19

And you see, and another thing, you see, you see uh Uncle Lyra, he just pacing back and forth behind the camera, walking around, rubbing his hands together. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 34:27

It feels good. Look, they clean, they clean the streets.

SPEAKER_08 34:29

We got some guys in here that we can't even talk about that's gonna be out here working because we still have we still have some small guys we gotta apprehend or whatever he was saying.

SPEAKER_07 34:36

And not only that, we want to protect their identities because they're doing a magnificent job of bringing down lawless and criminal people that have no respect for society. And they look just like me and you. Regular old young boy. I'll bet you they ain't old men, they young. That's them nuclear that this it's a new type of warfare now. The way the cops is there, like they're gang too. They know how to combat and fight the case, and they're fighting cases better now to where as though you really get convicted. They doing their homework. They're doing their homework so much that they know where you at, and you ain't even got nothing, no paper trail to you being here.

SPEAKER_08 35:10

They got this thing they plug in. But do you see how large that is? No, then they got they got this thing now, this device they plug to your phone that shows you know pings on the towers where it shows every place you frequent the most by your phone. Um these iPhones, because they got like a um, it's something that the iPhone track where you at. Because it's crazy. I was just thinking about that too. When you in your car, you know how your phone automatically says, go home, like at home, your home address? Yeah. That's just crazy. Because it's tracking your movements. I somebody said you could turn it off, but the normal person is not turning that off. They know where you're at.

SPEAKER_07 35:47

The magnitude that they came to this man's apartment searching for a man that's not even on a lease and went in there and shook it down. Turned the crib upside down. This man, I how did y'all fucking uh I ain't on how did y'all know I was here? Let alone here. This is a big complex. How did you know the unit? They coming, y'all. They coming, man. They coming, they are coming. They will come and get you. You breaking these laws, you seeing the evidence. It ain't like we up here telling you myths. I'm quite sure all y'all watched that news conference today that Uncle Larry didn't put out there.

SPEAKER_08 36:23

Those in the world.

SPEAKER_07 36:25

It's unfortunate. That happened in Philadelphia today. It's unfortunate, man. You know, hopefully these guys that they say that they have, uh, you know, come out smelling like roses, but you know, when the what if from what I know with the feds, they don't just be locking up the wrong people by accident. They ain't in the business of uh incorrectly apprehending the motherfucker.

SPEAKER_08 36:44

They go to they go to a person's crib whose name is on and don't even don't don't even mess with him. They only they they they find drugs in there and they don't even mess with the person whose name is actually on the daggone lease. The person, so there's two people living there.

SPEAKER_07 36:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 36:59

Other person is a law-bodied citizen who goes to work, does what he does. They don't even look to charge him with anything. Even though he's in the house, they don't know who who that stuff in the house was, but they do some, it's his. They coming for their man, they ain't tripping about nothing else. And then the other side, too. You when you doing that and the person don't know what you got going on, you jeopardizing that person's livelihood too. That's that's another thing about it. You know what I'm saying? Like why you why you like if somebody hanging with me around me, and you know you got we we we some we in the car together and you got a brick in the trunk and you ain't gonna tell me. So then when the so then when the cops come, I might not tell you. Yeah, I'm just saying, I I I understand it, but is it right?

SPEAKER_07 37:42

No, it's not it's not right at all. It's not nowhere near right. What makes it right? Ain't nothing right about that.

SPEAKER_08 37:51

So it's like it's just crazy. Um another thing, too, we talk about this. I'm going to this this is a case with a young this young teenager guy just in our city. This I'm not because we we see teenagers going to jail at Alabama right now. I don't even know if it was this many teenagers. It could have been, but these teenagers is going to jail. They kill a piece of delivery man or delivery man. They kill this guy, a teenager in our city. And this kid, it's a kid who's about to get roofed, possibly. Gonna do about maybe a dub, 30. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_07 38:28

Or more than 20 years or better.

SPEAKER_08 38:30

Or more. Because it's just murder, it's not premeditated. Yes, it is, because he just wanted to try to rob him. I don't I don't know. I don't know.

SPEAKER_07 38:36

No, that ain't premeditated. You don't think it is? Mm-mm. Probably got into a little scuffle and all that. But they was doing a robbery. That was a robbery turn homicide. Because they they wasn't looking to kill the pizza, they looking to get some money, thinking he But these DoorDash people don't have no have no everything. I got cash tips. The 14-year-old ain't thinking like that, though. We know that. We grown men. 14-year-old, yeah. Oh, they know they see mom ordering off our car, they see he ordering, they ran people. Order pizza, I got $60. They like, damn, the pizza man got it. 14 years old, he's dumb. He's so fucking fool. He around his over his girl career. I just bought pizza, dad came in $70. Damn, pizza man got the money. They not knowing the full extent of how the money is processed and paid through electronics and it's stored electronically, is nothing tangible that you can grab. You understand what I'm saying? 14-year-old just a goddamn fool. Yeah, well, gonna come rob you and think he's gonna get some actual cash. Not that maybe back 40 years ago, how they was pulling up big knots, and you remember how they deliver pizza back when we was growing up. Yeah, they pull up. Yeah, they changed big knots too. Stupid knot. He's been out here all day long. We ain't gonna forget them pizza man knots, but this ain't back in the day. You don't remember the pizza man pulling to the crib? You going outside getting three boxes? He on like his 50th delivery. They pulling up, you think they selling dope. They driving up with signing. No, they got pizza back there.

SPEAKER_08 40:04

What's the uh youngest person you you see you encounter going into the prison system a lot of time? The youngest person that you may have seen like that.

SPEAKER_07 40:11

Yeah, a lot of time. That got a lot, man. So many of them, man. It'd be around that age, man, 14, 13. Because I've been over there with the juveniles at 14 and 13. Them dudes getting life. I've been around dudes that got life. Yeah, maybe we was all juveniles. Got a couple homies that got life. Laws overchange. Look at hands. Hands got life. He's doesn't you can't get no more than life unless I ain't met none of them that got the death penalty yet. That's the top over top of life. So I haven't met a juvenile that actually got sentenced to the death penalty. But I met a bun of a bunch of them that got that L bub.

SPEAKER_08 40:43

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SPEAKER_07 41:36

Now oh, but remember, I want to reiterate, remember, after this live show right here that we're doing, we have Tales from the Gels. What is it again? Uncut. Uncut. Right after.

SPEAKER_08 41:48

Uncut. For sure. You know, um, oh my eyes. Turkey bands. But listen, so that would uh this this should go back a little bit to the to the brother that we know that got indicted, right? In regards to his case and what's going on, what's going through his mind? Is it a lot of crying? It's a lot of is it a feeling of defeat? How is it for him right now? The brother who's who's been indicted. What what what's on his mind? Because you've been in that situation.

SPEAKER_07 42:18

Oh no, yeah, but man, he he's right now, he's madder than a motherfucking. I can't even name nothing that he's mad as. Because whatever you think the top is, is him. He's mad at an inmate who check in clear. Yeah, man. Oh man, madder than that, you ain't man right now because after you done sat so long in them Jones, man, and then you back. And especially if you back for something that you did, so that further tell the you you that you know the consequences of your actions and still went ahead and did it and still got that consequence. Now you have to live with that. And the crazy part is, man, man, the time a nigga tell be this time. You done did 20 years, they talking about giving you a 30-ball Jamal now. You and that motherfucker, so if you did 20, 20 something years, you and you you well off into your 40s, going into your 50s. And then they're talking about that 30 ball Jamal. You and your mind, you a human, that human instinct kicks in. Like, do I got what it takes to be in here for the rest of because this didn't be typically the rest of your life. Do you agree, Toffee? This is typically the rest of your life. If you 45, 50 and catch it and did 20 years and catch another sentence of 25 years, that's life. That's the rest of your life, man. So now you're in there and your mind is playing. That's where the the song is good. Your mama mind's playing tricks on me. That's when your mind gets to thinking about damn, can I this was gonna separate the men from the boys? It's easy for everybody going there the first time. Yeah, I'm going to trial. I ain't do it. Ah no. Your true colors will come shining through if you do a massive extent of time and go out there, jack off again, and get caught up again.

SPEAKER_02 43:58

I see your true. Colors shining through.

SPEAKER_07 44:04

That is when the fuck your true colors is gonna come shining through. Let me ask you a question, man. Have you ever been thrilled too before? I might need to be. Not yet. I'ma just say not yet. But it's coming. I can see it.

SPEAKER_08 44:19

You just start singing like that.

SPEAKER_07 44:21

Yeah, because that's a song. Yeah, just like I love. Yeah, that's where your true colors is shining through. After you done did 20 years, don't be afraid to let him show up.

SPEAKER_01 44:31

Don't be afraid, you goddamn fire.

SPEAKER_08 44:33

Just go ahead and go ahead and tell him. Get yourself up out of that situation. But you know, you know, my thing is this though. It's gonna judge judgment day is here. Like it's it's gonna be what it's gonna be now. You gotta you gotta walk through the fire. Walk through the fire, man. You know what I mean? So, but you know, shout out to him, man. You know, hopefully he can make out um without having to, you know, tell or get a lot of time. What about your question, though? Like, you know, with people that's that's that's in there, right? What is what's an all-tell sign that somebody snitching? Like, what's a sign that are like that he gonna tell? What's like something that sign you saw like all right?

SPEAKER_07 45:17

We was on a unit together, and we had another co-defender upstairs over top of us. And I told you when you're at FDC Philly at the time, uh, if you had people over top of you that you knew of, it's because you can't talk to them unless you actually see them, because we on two different floors. But whether they was over top of you or directly underneath you, you can go and find out through your toilet. Like, because niggas talk through the toilet in FDC there, and how they talk through the toilet, meaning if I got my toilet right there and it's a bowl of water, I would put my hand to where like the hole is at, where the feces and pee and all that go down the hole and keep cupping the hole. Like, you know what I'm talking about. You you freak niggas out there when you cupping your girl just like that, cupping it on a cook, could be sounding like that and anything. And as you're doing that, the water start to recede, it'll it'll start to eventually drain out the toilet. The more you cup it, the more the water is going to uh relieve itself from your kamo. I guess it sucks down in there or whatever, but it'll do it to the point to where as though it'll be just a little bit of water and you'll hear something like but you'll hear other people start talking, you hear voices, everybody talk through the toilet. So, what you do is grab like an old towel, old t-shirt, some old khakis, and start jamming them in the toilet. And what that does is it get that little excess water up that I told you that was remaining. You can have it to the point to whereas though your bowl, your commode is absolutely dry, no water in it unless you flush it. So now with this way, then when you know niggas make like, you know, get the ends of a paper towel, you know, a paper towel got that rule inside of it and all that, niggas will make that and make that real good where they can talk through it through the joint. Yo, so you know, we got that. We taught our co-defendant so happened to be over top of us. And the tells a telltale sign that he was going to tell, he is a person, we know his character. He was a destitute, you know, he was a flunky, he was a worker, he would have been out there, he ain't had much, and he was, you know, we know he ain't got no commissary, no nothing. We know he up there on cups, which I like to call it cups. I like to say on his knuckles, up there with nothing on his face. So, boom, with that being said, we kicking it with him when days go past, like you cool up there. He like, yeah, we gonna rumble it and all that. So then, you know, Makota finna ask him, like, yo, I know you a little shit little fucked up, uh about to have my peepy send you some money. You need some money, like, no, I'm cool. I look upstairs like I could, I look at the ceiling, like I could see him because they over top of us, because we talking, but I know they on the floor. So he when he says I'm cool, I'm like this. I can't even see him, though. I'm just I know he up there somewhere talking to me through the next toilet on the uh the floor upstairs. So I'm looking at my man like yo. He looking at me like yo. I'm like, he's like, yo, you sure you don't know? He's like, no, I'm cool. We looking at each other again, like, and lo and behold, that nigga ain't never came back to that toilet again. Next time we heard something of him from him, it was paperwork uh signifying or letting us know that he was cooperating with the government.

SPEAKER_08 48:13

Yeah, he uh he went out crazy. He was telling on everything. Moving. What was the most damaging thing he said about you? What did he say about you that you could?

SPEAKER_07 48:23

Well, he really he just was like, man, he been uh running around. He basically was saying like I was a general for the block. Like I was an enforcer. Yeah, yeah, man. You know him, right? He go to jail, whatever they say he does, you know, but niggas don't play with him. He he'll bust his pistol and this and that. So, but other than that, he ain't crushed me too much. He got on bro and was like, man, you know, he get when he a mastermind, he get all the bricks in and he knows how to distribute it and break it down and give him his position, and give him his position. You know, he only got on me for about an hour or so. Other than that, he killed you.

SPEAKER_08 48:59

Yeah. And with him, we knew that he was gonna do that though. Before he even did it.

SPEAKER_07 49:08

We we knew it. Yeah. But that was a telltale sign, what you say was a sign.

SPEAKER_14 49:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 49:13

By him letting us know that you ain't got nothing on your account. Who turns that down?

SPEAKER_08 49:17

I kind of knew it was something like after the after the after the fast came and after after they went up in the crib. I think you I think you I think you were still you were still locked up. You wasn't out. But you did they let you out? What for what? After the house. Yeah, I got out. We made bell. That's right, yeah, we that's right. Yeah, yeah. Everybody bell. Your bell was like what, like 10, 20, 10, 00,000?

SPEAKER_07 49:36

No, but they had it high, then they dropped it to 50,000, 10% 5,000.

SPEAKER_08 49:40

I got out of the uh 50,000. Yeah, remember that. And then, so with him, we knew that he was gonna do that.

SPEAKER_07 49:49

Oh, where this person is at, I'm gonna uh I'm gonna go ahead and answer that. He said, uh, we say, OC dollar bills. Uh yes, uh, I know exactly where this person is at that did this act against us. And uh, and I don't mean to speak ill about it, but that's the way, you know, life has a funny way of returning favors or whatever the case may be, I think. But he is deceased. He was uh after he was released from his incarceration after telling on us in abundance at an alarming rate, he migrated to North Carolina. He went down there and got a blood vessel, a blood clot in his leg, and it traveled up to his heart and he exploded. And he died a couple years after he came home from uh testifying on us at an alarming rate. And uh you can only imagine my sentiment at the time. At the time. As of now, I got older, I got a little bit less softer, you know, and like, damn, okay, he told on me about some shit I really did. Ain't like he lie, but still, if you one of my comrades, we comrades together. But if you break the law, be prepared for a nigga to tell on you.

SPEAKER_08 50:54

For sure. Especially if it ain't because you done seen some people that that may have been leaders or or people like, you know, like generals, like they mentioned you, that would give statements and tell. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_07 51:09

What you say?

SPEAKER_08 51:10

It's people like that that's that's leaders that tell. Not always just you know, the pawns, whatever you want to call them. You know, you got the people that uh of high stature that that tell on the on these indictments. As you've seen as well in your indictment, you've seen people that told, right? Mm-hmm. That you would have thought that was, you know, that would that would hold water. But everybody is cool when you're making money. Everybody making money, everything's gonna be a good thing. There's all fun and game.

SPEAKER_07 51:33

And then as soon as the That test come. That test you was just talking about.

SPEAKER_08 51:36

No, it was him. He the one that gave it to me in non-duty. He did he the one who did this and did that. He the he was he was getting the work in and yeah, man. I'm I'm taking I I'm taking my chances with a uh with a job non-five. If it all goes bad.

SPEAKER_07 51:49

And then one day is that that's that's like pretty much the blueprint.

SPEAKER_08 51:52

If it all goes bad, man, I'm uh you might y'all might see me ride past me, you know, working a job, or y'all might see me standing on the corner selling some juices. I'm not knocking on, but I'm just saying, I will be hustling doing something. I will not be, you know, standing selling no no no drugs. I will be doing something. I will be finding a way to hustle. I have no pride when it comes to hustling. If it all left there tomorrow, that's that's why I feel like, you know, ain't too many people that can out hustle me. I'm gonna do whatever. As far as I'm gonna go out and sell whatever, I'm not gonna sit back and make no excuses or nothing. I'm gonna go out and put my best foot forward. I'm gonna sell, I sell juices, I sell turtles, I sell socks, t-shirts. I'ma hustle, I'm gonna do it. I'm not gonna sit back and make an excuses of I can't do something or I can't do this and I can't do that, or you know, people look for excuses to go do something they shouldn't do. If you really a hustler, you really think you a hustler, you really think you can make something happen, you can adapt to any situation. Anywhere you at, you can try to make something happen. If that if that's not in you, it's just not in you. Everybody look at the finished product, or you got money, or you got this, or you got that, or you built the nah. What about all the nights when uh, you know, I was grinding, what's what they say? All the nights it was grinding while y'all was going to bed. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. You know what I'm saying? Or you wasn't with me while I was shooting in the gym. Yeah. You forget about that. You sleeping at home or chasing these women, and I'm out here, you know, out here toothing nail out here trying to get trying to make a habit, trying to get it. Ain't nobody give me, give, gave me nothing. You know what I'm saying? So for me, I don't got no, I don't got no choice but to try to make something happen. You know what I mean? I'm I'm working, and then I'm and I'm working anywhere, I'm doing anything. That's what you call a hustler. That's a that's a person who try that's that's the real hustler, not the drug dealing dude. The real hustler is the person who go out here and go make it happen for his family no matter what it is. We ain't sitting back making no excuses of why we can't do something, why we can't do this, why we can't do that. I'm gonna do whatever I gotta do. Outside of selling some drugs and going to jail, because I'm of no, I'm I'm of no use in jail. I'm basically worthless in jail. If I call home, I'm trying to tell, I'm trying to chastise my kids from from a prison cell. Now I want to be a dad now.

SPEAKER_07 54:24

Dude might have been a dad then, though. I ain't gonna take that away from them because they uh some of them still had that. Some of them still had the right. Hold up, hold up. Some of them, but some still cared back then. That's why I said I'm too I'm too biased because I come there. Just because you did that crime don't mean you don't care. That means you was overthinking, that means you weren't thinking about nobody. No, it's some niggas is out there hustling because all right, this is what I know I'm good at. Okay, I can go this route, but I'm a good, and everything is for them. They just made the wrong decision in their workplace.

SPEAKER_08 54:56

But like we were saying here, we like it. And I get it, I get it.

SPEAKER_07 55:00

Like, damn, then you got to live with that decision.

SPEAKER_08 55:02

You know what makes a real successful businessman? A real businessman, regardless of what you do, and this is probably from you know from experience, regardless of what you do, a business in business, you have to pay attention to the numbers. Numbers don't lie, right? Look at the numbers of people that's gonna go to jail get killed, opposed to people that's gonna go to selling drugs, opposed to people that's gonna get a job and get go to jail for being killed. The numbers say you should get a job. In any business, you got anything you do. Like one thing I always try to do is pay attention to it. I don't pay attention to nothing else. Somebody come here and talk to me, tell their blue in the face about any business I got. You can talk to me and tell you blue in the face about anything. And my thing is let's look at the numbers. What does the numbers say? Because the numbers is gonna tell you, gonna lead you to lead you to success. Everybody got a business idea. Yeah, I got this business idea, I got this, I got that, and I got this, I got this, we can do this, this business. What does the numbers say? How much how much money have you generated off that business to you and want me to invest in that? I can't just go off of an idea or or or what you say out of your mouth. You gotta show me numbers that you are successful at that, and then I can help enhance that, you know, that business idea. But to come we too, we too old to be just taking shots in the dark or just risking our freedom. You know what I mean? We too old to be doing that, man. You know, we got too many people that's dependent on us. And then also, like C Dollar Bill say, like I said, you want to be a father now, but selling drugs is you're being selfish. Because you know the chances that you take it. And you're gonna it's gonna be chance you won't, it's a big chance you won't leave your loved one out here, your daughter out here, your son out here, your mom out here, your wife out here. Gonna leave them out here. So we can't be selfish, you know? And so my guys out there that's in the streets, you know. I'm like, I'm not knocking y'all. I'm just trying to give y'all some advice. Let you see the see the stuff.

SPEAKER_07 57:05

Show another all you doing is showing them another role.

SPEAKER_08 57:07

Just do me a favor, please. Just pay attention to the numbers. Just look at the numbers aspect of your chances of being successful in that and how long you run. And drug dealers really don't get that many, that long, that long. A run is really rare to get a real long run. As far as selling drugs, your run don't really last that long. Or breaking law or robbing, the run don't last that long. The run is actually really short. You know what I'm saying? So we just we I just ask everybody to pay attention to the numbers aspect of the chances of you going to jail, you know. And they're very, very high. Or chances of you being killed viciously. A vicious death. You know. So I would just really pay attention to that. But yeah, man, like I just uh want to say is make sure everybody's there at the event on uh July 18th, man.

SPEAKER_07 57:57

Please, uh, you don't want to miss out. We're gonna have a great, fun, a great, great, fun-fill awareness day. You we're gonna bring you awareness at an alarming rate. We're gonna open up the chats, live chat with everybody to uh, you know, rebuttal. Anything that you might hear, you man, please rebuttal me. I need to be told, you know, some things sometimes because I know I get to get in there and thinking this how I go. And sometimes when I got to get acclimated back to society correctly, and it might not be all the way this how I go because I'm carrying it on some penitentiary time. You know, my brother got to do that for me now. But yeah, please do not miss this event. This event is going to be one for the ages and one for the knowing from time on to know, to know a lot of things.

SPEAKER_08 58:41

Another thing, too. I want to uh, Mr. Stax, Mr. Dot Stax 2633 said everybody's situation different, though. Feek. The kids talk like everybody's situation the same. I understand that, but I'm talking about the situation you know, making the decision of selling drugs, or you know what I'm saying? Something like that. Let's talk about that. Decision of selling drugs. Let's talk about that. That decision, that decision alone is what I'm speaking about. You make that decision, you understand the numbers are very, very high. We should look. What's the what's the what's the chances of you opposed to you being successful, opposed to you getting killed or going to jail? Which one do you think is the was uh a more likelihood? No, which one is more likely? Going to jail or being getting killed.

SPEAKER_07 59:22

So when you but that but that carrot, that other carrot's so much fatter that niggas keep trying to take. Man, it's crazy. Yeah, man. That other carrot, as you know it's in a metaphor to terms. Um is no for real though. It's it's it's so much more with it. Like, if I get if I don't get caught, you see how niggas be having runs? Yeah, niggas be having hell of a runs. Sure. Now they probably could have done different with that bread, or with not, but they did what they wanted and was cool.

SPEAKER_08 59:56

Everybody knows that sold drugs, man. But the jail boy.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:03

You funny, everybody you know, ain't nobody make it, ain't nobody turning around.

SPEAKER_08 1:00:07

Not one person, yeah. Yeah, some people turn around, they just stop.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:13

So then you know what you know some good cases, then. No, it's a good thing.

SPEAKER_08 1:00:15

So don't make it light that they stopped and just did something different.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:18

Okay, yeah. You they got out, they took their loof and loose and invest. Yeah, then I mean, yeah. So then all victory stories when it comes to this.

SPEAKER_08 1:00:28

Okay, yeah, but it's far.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:29

Okay, then it's far and few. But you all there are some victory stories. And the nigga, and that's all I'm thinking about. I'm going out to make it past the dead, baby. Everybody can bite that bitch right there, trying to be that one. Yeah, listen. What are you talking about?

SPEAKER_08 1:00:44

So listen, I that's like one or two people that made it out amongst the hundreds of people that I know that have been went to jail, got murked. I don't really know too many people that just that was like, all right, listen, take it and made some happen with it. Like, you know, you know, it just gotta just, but I think I think I think what it is though, honestly, I think just um, and I and I'm not I'm not knocking people, I'm just trying to get people to understand is the you know the value of themselves. You gotta value yourself. Everybody is smart, man, in a way. Everybody has a has an ability in a way. Everybody has something to bring to the table in a way. You just gotta find out what that is. Whatever you're good at, whatever you're, you know, and and the drug dealers, I'm telling y'all, the drug dealers be the best businessmen. We under spit, we gotta we're gonna spin we understand supply and demand, we understand quality, we understand all these things. We understand organization, we understand having the block on shifts, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:48

Look at it, look at you. Boy, boy, you over there whole ass got wet just now.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:52

Qualities, your whole audience like organization, and breaking it down.

SPEAKER_08 1:01:58

We understand what people really memory lane. We understand. I mean, I mean, what the well the drug doesn't understand business, yeah. They understand trade, they understand. Crime pays. There's always but I'm saying, once people uh like dudes who switch that that that that that mentality That is a better way. Yeah, you this is get the opportunity, man. It's like but the but the but the but the the YNs nowadays they they they they have they may have a skill or a talent, but they just they just shoot they just don't anything, man. You know what I'm saying? The Y N's they just I don't know what I don't know what they own. It's just like they don't even want to do nothing. With the YNs. It ain't even about no money with them, it's about just shooting up stuff, man.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:46

The majority of them is like that.

SPEAKER_08 1:02:49

Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:50

The majority of them can't handle themselves in that manner.

SPEAKER_08 1:02:52

Yeah, like but like a person that like street dudes, man, be like I know some street dudes that people that was in the streets that that that that stopped and I mean, I done met them in New York, I done met them in Chicago, I met him in California, I met them here in the city of Philadelphia. I'd have met them, you know, all around the all the world, all around the United States that I'd have met some guys in certain places, I'd have been on trips and and met guys that may have been ripping and running and so forth and so on, but the mentality, man, we you know, we we we uh we are bent well we are built mentally to to run business. We run it, we're really running fortune 500 companies in the streets. Yeah, ain't no really we are think about it. Blocked on 20, uh 20,000 from I'm talking about you talking about come out 10 10 10 in the morning to 10 at night, you did 20,000. And then you ain't even get the overnight shift money. We do another 10,000, 15,000 overnight. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And not to mention you selling, you know, you breaking bricks down, you getting, you know what I'm saying? You getting a taking a half off, you know, if you wanted to be uh not be half off each half each off each point is a four and a half of each joint. So now you just flipping like you and get get a system. And it goes on and it goes on. Yeah, man. I just I don't want to, I'm not trying to educate people on how to sell.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:17

No, but you understand though. It seemed like a little recognition came to your eyes, like, okay, it's a better way, but you understand it. Yeah. You have a slight, like, cause goddamn, boy, that cat right there, boy, that fat one I was just telling you about. If you can be one of the ones that make it intact, knew how to put it up, boy, you got a hell of a start when you jump into that real world with that same mentality. And then we're not, we're not telling, I'm just saying, I see what all I'm saying is I see why. Person don't go into selling drugs thinking he's going to jail. You don't got that in your mind. Your mind is, I'm not gonna get caught, I'm gonna be that one. But what but what I'm saying? And if you do make it and you was growing in in Long Duty, is you had a good standing in life and could have got away and invested in businesses. If you if you had to make it up, it's a hell it's a hell of a start. The boy. But the chances, man. The chances is still the chances are still against you. The odds is against you. The odds is highly, highly favored against you. I say nine out of ten don't make it. Hey, listen, the thing about it this too, like, he's speaking about riding through the block.

SPEAKER_08 1:05:27

Shout out to you. Uh, who said that?

SPEAKER_07 1:05:30

Yeah, uh uh Hey uh Kyle, you uh my man at the door, he just pulled up to the gate. The one that came in here did a live with us on that weekend.

SPEAKER_08 1:05:39

Yeah, so you um I ride past uh I ride through my block all the time. Every time we go down there, we ride through a block, right? Just ride through there. Who? Us. Our block, right?

SPEAKER_07 1:05:52

Yeah, we we usually just ride through. It's humble hums out there now. Yeah. They they the the the streets brought back their block. Yes, man. See what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_08 1:06:00

Smiles bought the art but the back block too.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:03

The uh behind that whoever bought that black block, man, may Allah grant them tall feek, man. And you know, that was a hub, that was a nice gesture to buy one of our neighborhood blocks. Yeah, well, the whole block, man. Yeah, if they did that, then yeah, he he needed he or she needs to keep that identity because I'm stepping to their ass. Oh, yeah. This our block.

SPEAKER_14 1:06:22

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:22

I would love to know one of the homies that got it, something like that, but this is our block.

SPEAKER_08 1:06:26

Yeah, yeah. Something like, you know? Yeah. Like, like, like, like 19 lots or something, man. Somebody from the hood did that, man. And I heard they're about to build something crazy down there, man. Man, they they might, you never know. You know that's a that's a big win for the um for the home team. Whoever that was. But the thing about it is this though, man. You know, like we go to the block all the time.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:52

It's over with. Ride through there. Ain't nobody out there no more. Got white folks moving down there. Little Asians slid past me. I'm like, oh, okay.

SPEAKER_08 1:06:59

I know they said each of them lots down there with like uh who? Like a little almost like 200 and something.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:05

Each lot? Yeah. Oh, I thought they was tens and fifteens.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:09

Yeah, they like 200 something, yeah, yeah, yeah. They somebody, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:07:19

But you know, we ride through there all the time. We'll check her a lot, we check on the uh on the block, man. You know, we ride through that. We see our family out there, old old heads that has to be out there with us when we came through there. Recred, still standing strong.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:33

Yeah. And we go down there. You know, a tree just got pulled about her lot. Right on the side of house, crash into a house and everything, man. She alright? Yeah, she's already known. A house damage? Yeah. Usually when it happened the other day. She probably needs somebody to come through there and cut it and all that. The city probably gonna do and cut it, but yeah, you gotta. Um the pictures is in the books' name, but but you ain't in that chair. The pictures in there pulled it right up. But you know, there was like a mini hurricane through West Philly. Everything went out.

SPEAKER_08 1:08:05

We was riding at it. Damn, why nobody called me? I tell you, down and checked it out, man. Why ain't you telling me? No, we love Ray.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:08:12

I forgot. Yeah, yeah. But listen, y'all, the phone line's about to open up, man. 215-316-4492. 215-316-4492. Y'all can call them right now. The phone lines are gonna be open. You know what I mean? We want to talk to y'all, man. Ask some questions, man. We're gonna we're gonna talk there. What y'all think? Is it worth it? That's the that's the question of the day. Is it worth it? Is the jail, prison systems, is it worth it? 215-316-4492. Hopefully the phone ain't cut off.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:45

I don't think it did.

SPEAKER_08 1:08:46

Yeah. I don't remember paying the bill. You know? Yo, don't forget, y'all. Hit the like button, man. How many likes we got in there right now? How many likes? Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:01

You know, they know I don't show up tomorrow.

SPEAKER_08 1:09:04

They called it themselves the direct chasers. These names is like, these get names that they have.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:11

We got 70 likes in there, man. We got 260 people watching. For the life of me, man. You know, I don't want to beg for no type of accolades that we don't deserve at all. I'm not gonna beg for that. If you feel as though we're worth 70 likes, that's cool, man. But we gotta probably come in here and work harder or either quit. Something going on. Something going on. Do you see it like that? Or I think that's what I think. I think that's it.

SPEAKER_08 1:09:36

Sometimes they would sometimes people get to be just be interested in the actual talk and forget it. No, no, no, no, no, no. But they know by hitting the like, the that this causes the video to go into the algorithm. But I'm saying they probably are so intrigued with the conversation that they forget it. Like, so listen, if you were intrigued with the conversation, you're giving them too much. You giving them, you giving them too much.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:54

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not giving up all that. I'm not giving up that the that lead or leave way work. Not at all.

SPEAKER_08 1:10:04

Yeah. I just think that's probably just the issue right there. I think that they're just watching it. You know what I'm saying? I don't do watching it, the podcast, listening to the podcast, whatever, and not hitting the like button because the simple fact of the matter is they're intrigued with you, man.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:17

Oh, that's what it is? Well, it looks like you're hitting that CCC. We said something that the thing that shot up to a dollar down there. How does that a not on duty? The thing. Yo, so is the bill paid? Because I'm quite sure somebody would have called in by now. Oh, the Amus was on Tafi.

SPEAKER_08 1:10:37

Yeah, as of now. Listen, y'all. No, we can't hear nothing.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:46

Oh, somebody just called just now?

SPEAKER_08 1:10:48

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:48

Oh, I gotta turn it up.

SPEAKER_08 1:10:53

Yeah, I don't think it's negative to the switcher. I heard something. Tell us in the jails we speaking with. Hold on one second.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:11

Tell us in the jails who we speaking with. How was that all the way down? Hello? Y'all can hear me? Yeah, I hear you now. Yep, I hear you nice and clear. He back on there. What's up? Who you calling from? Who we speaking to? Who you calling from? Would you turn it back down, F? Yeah, hello?

SPEAKER_12 1:11:30

Yeah, I got a question.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:31

All right, yeah, yeah. All right, what's going on?

SPEAKER_12 1:11:35

Um, how y'all keep y'all bonds so close? You know, you being away for like 20 years. Because you know, we see y'all now, y'all y'all talk to each other like y'all have never been separated. So it's like, tell the people like how y'all keep y'all for both of y'all, talk and and black, because you know, y'all got two different perspectives, but see how y'all keep y'all boss so hard.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:55

See, for me, right? For me, and this is I think the first part of friendship, uh, or not the not the main thing that makes up a friendship or a brotherhood, but this is a main aspect for me. I only can tell you about for me, and this black speaking, but how we kept up the brotherhood for so long and so intense and so intact until this day now is I don't have to see you to not love you, if that makes any sense. I can go for two, three, four, five years, and my love never diminished for you. Me. I can see you that fifth year, and it was like we was talking yesterday. If that makes sense, and that's just one of many, many things that I put into a friendship or a brotherhood. But that one right there for me is a major quality of minds that I have. I don't have to see you every day to say that I love you because you know I love you. You understand what I'm saying? Yes, sir. I I finish.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:54

Oh, but for me, yeah, man, um uh I guess we have we have we have a relationship with somebody like you, like you know, you know somebody so many years, and y'all been through so much. You sometimes you can build, you know, a certain bond that's that can't be broken because I already understand what he's gonna do in certain situations. It's like he understands what I'm gonna do in certain situations. He understand, I understand how he's gonna move when I ain't around, and he knows how I'm gonna move when he ain't around. And it's just we just been through so many tough situations in life, and now it's just easy. It just is just a brotherhood, man. We just just been through so much and seen so much and been through the struggles and and this is from kids up until to this day. Now, do I like him every day? No, I don't like him every day. He know that, you know. I don't want to say a nut, but he get on my nerves, you know. So therefore, you know, he you know, get on my nerves certain days, and then certain days I, you know, I I don't want to answer the phone for him, but I just answer just to make sure y'all are and then certain things are, but you know, this is this this is my guy. So I we can't change who we are, we can't change the past, you know, man, but we can change the future for the positive. So if that makes any sense, man.

SPEAKER_12 1:14:08

Nah, word up, man. Y'all good, man. Yeah, I appreciate I appreciate the podcast.

SPEAKER_08 1:14:12

All right, thank you, man. Appreciate you, man. Shout out to my guy, uh uh Reese, too, man. I got a guy named Reese I met the other day at 24th Street Gas Station. Shout out to you, man, if you're listening. You know, you know what I mean? At a red Cadillac, man. Shout out to you, man. I want to give you a shout out. But yeah, man, um we just have a situation where you have people that's come that has come from nothing together, been broke together. Like I said, my I know his mom. I just met his mom when he met his mom, but you know, I knew him for years. He knows my mom, my dad, my siblings. He knows, you know, I mean now then we have uh close bonds from friends, we have other friends that we we all been through stuff together, you know. So to be to this point, it's like, man, that's what's up, man. How do you love? Tell us from the jails.

SPEAKER_12 1:15:06

Hey, um, yeah, this is K Dot from Baltimore.

SPEAKER_08 1:15:10

What's up, K Dot? Shout out to B More.

SPEAKER_12 1:15:15

Um, you think it's a generational curse for families that all men get locked up? Or you think it's uh locked up a drone?

SPEAKER_08 1:15:25

I think that is it's it can be a generational curse. I'm gonna tell you why. Because sometimes uh going to jail or committing a crime or breaking law is glorified. And when it's and when it's glorified, it looks it looks attractive to the kids coming up. So they're looking at it like it's not nothing to go to jail. They don't look at jail as a terrible place to be because if your uncle went there, then your uncle, other uncle went there, then your uncle's son went there, your cousin there. So now it's like it's not that it's okay, but jail is normal. We normalize it. So that's what I would say. Like, so breaking law and things of that nature become something that we look at as just normal. And what happens with that, we end up going to jail.

SPEAKER_12 1:16:08

All right, we got one more question. Yeah, um, my my son's just got my gospel call ring, sir. This is first time in the system. What's the best thing I can do or tell him? He got locked up for what when I go see him this weekend.

SPEAKER_08 1:16:23

You got locked up for what?

SPEAKER_12 1:16:26

Um, him and his homeboys stay in cars all around the city. So they got them.

SPEAKER_08 1:16:30

Still in cars? Still in cars?

SPEAKER_12 1:16:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:16:33

Oh, yeah. I mean, I what I want to say is I think that um we can look at this as something light because it is because it's still in cars, opposed to what we normally hear and see. We normally hear young kids getting going to jail for murder. So, but I wouldn't approach it as something light. Uh I would approach it as something serious because it can lead to him being there next for a murder or homicide, something like that. Something major. So I wouldn't, I wouldn't approach it in the light, man. I would just you know encourage him.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:01

Well, well, hopefully, too, not to cut you off, bro. These ain't carjackings or anything, it's just stolen cars.

SPEAKER_12 1:17:07

Um I get all details on it right now because it just can't okay.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:12

Or you mean we not to cut you off, bro. But your whole thing is you gotta be patient now, patient with him. And if if you uh evidently it seemed like you're gonna be by his side. So everything now these first next couple months is gonna be like the slowest time of because now is the guessing game. If I get out or my going to jail, I need a lawyer. Oh, this is the worst time of being incarcerated or fighting the case right now. Okay, so he's gonna need you more than ever now than probably then. Sure.

SPEAKER_08 1:17:46

Yeah, don't take it lightly.

SPEAKER_12 1:17:47

Appreciate y'all. No problem. Man, I listen to your RD, man.

SPEAKER_08 1:17:51

All right, thanks, man. Appreciate it. Don't take it lightly, man. Just talk to him as if as if he committed a murder in the man like you, like you want what's best for him, man. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_12 1:18:00

Yeah, but then I look at it as like, how can I tell him something if all the males in my family been through the system?

SPEAKER_08 1:18:08

Have you been to the systems?

SPEAKER_12 1:18:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:10

All right, well, tell him about your experiences and the oppression that you had and what and what can come if he continues to do what he does. Because sometimes it's a benefit and hardship, man. It don't always mean that you know, uh, you know, you can't you can't talk to him about a hardship. It's a hardship of being in prison. So you can use that experience, which is enough to help deter him from going to jail. This is what we're doing up here on the podcast. Using the hardships and the difficulties of of the reality of a prison and using it as a deterrent for the youth, or anyone who's out here trying to break laws. So who better to do it than his father, man?

SPEAKER_12 1:18:42

Yeah, appreciate you.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:43

No problem, man. Yeah, but you know, the thing about it is this, like as we sit here and talk about it, you know, these kids they need guidance, man. And at the end of the day, man, nobody should turn it back on anybody because you never know. I just think that is uh as far as in society with kids, it ain't too late for them in society unless as long as they don't catch a murder. Or they get it or they get a date to come home. You know what I'm saying? It ain't it ain't too late for them once they get a date. Yeah, like but if they get like a 40 to 80 or something like that, it's it's it's probably gonna be too late because they by the time they get out, they're gonna be old or if they're gonna be like, yeah. It might be too late because now they're damaged goods. What's the point in releasing somebody after they 80, 90 years old? You know what I'm saying? But for a kid that might go on for a five-year stint, six-year stint, or something like that, when he comes home, when they come home, he has an opportunity, still young, still a kid. Not that we want that, but shoot. You think if you would did a nick, you would been better, uh, you still would have you would have learned your lesson like you did for doing 21?

SPEAKER_07 1:19:55

No. Because I was doing nicks. I was in all the juvenile facilities. I ain't know it was getting real after that.

SPEAKER_08 1:20:01

Talking about as a like a little older and though, like what you mean, like what? But like say say for the indictment, you would have done five as opposed to 21.

SPEAKER_07 1:20:08

Nah, I needed to do that 21. That five, I would have been back out here slinging it harder than what I was before I went in. Yup. Yep.

SPEAKER_14 1:20:16

Yeah. What?

SPEAKER_08 1:20:23

You just be like listen, I mean sometimes why they needed to have a purpose. Because just be like, yo, like, listen, y'all calling y'all 215-316-4492, 215-316-4492. Don't give up on your child, man. I got a son, man, you know, you know, who's um who's out here, he's 20 years old, and uh me and him don't see our dial a lot, you know. And I try my best to raise in the jails, who's speaking with me. It's Drake from DC. What's up, Dre? Shout out to DC. What's up, bro?

SPEAKER_00 1:21:03

What's up, big boy? Um, I'm at work, right? This is my first time catching y'all live, man. I just want to send positive vibes, man. Keep going, shout out, man.

SPEAKER_08 1:21:11

Thanks, man. Appreciate that. Man, thank you, man.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:14

I appreciate that. Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_08 1:21:15

Shout out to DC, man. J the day. Everybody good, what's up with you, man?

SPEAKER_09 1:21:32

Oh man, this is the Malik, man.

SPEAKER_08 1:21:34

Once again, Adore Malik, what's up? James of Flames, what's going on? What's up, do Malik? What's going on, man?

SPEAKER_09 1:21:40

Oh man, uh, I just wanted to send a nice little message. Uh for our little community to say, uh don't let nobody tell you nothing. You can't do it. Don't let nobody tell you you can't do something. If you have the patience or the vision to do it, get it done. Let's don't say we can't. We get out and we do it and we make it happen. Hard work, dedication.

SPEAKER_08 1:22:06

For sure.

SPEAKER_09 1:22:06

And so love your hard work and time and easy work.

SPEAKER_08 1:22:10

Appreciate that.

SPEAKER_09 1:22:11

But uh what y'all got going on at 18, man? Next Saturday, man. Talk to me about that.

SPEAKER_08 1:22:16

Listen, man, I just make sure that you there, man.

SPEAKER_09 1:22:18

So uh man, show of love that you're there, man.

SPEAKER_08 1:22:24

Yeah, we well, we we good though, man. We're gonna have we're gonna have a good time, man. So just want everybody to come out, man, and um have a good time. It's just even if we just sit there and just shake hands and take pictures, man. We're gonna we're gonna have a good time, man.

SPEAKER_09 1:22:35

Uh-huh. We're gonna have a good time.

SPEAKER_08 1:22:39

Yeah, appreciate that. Can't wait to meet everybody. Okay, all right, man.

SPEAKER_09 1:22:46

I just left the gym, though, man. So I'm on my way in the crib. I just I just coach y'all live, man, real fast.

SPEAKER_08 1:22:52

Okay, man. Well, listen, man. Appreciate you calling in, man. Enjoy your day, man. Stay free and stay safe.

SPEAKER_09 1:22:57

No doubt, y'all as well. Asalam Ali.

SPEAKER_08 1:23:00

Alaikum Asuna. Yo, James, what's up, man? What's going on, man? What I do, man? What's going on? What are you talking about, man? But I I was gonna say something. I'll speak about my son. I got a son who's 20 years old, and we don't always see eye to eye, you know, and I'm not gonna, you know, I find out some things that's that's to me that push me to, you know, sometimes be upset. But I'm never gonna be upset to the point where it's uh I'll turn my back on him. Because I can't. As much as I may want to sometimes when they do things, but I just can't. I just feel like I will be doing uh uh you know a disservice to him. You know what I mean? Tell us from the jails who you speaking with.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:49

Hello?

SPEAKER_08 1:23:49

Hey, how you doing? Who you speaking with?

SPEAKER_06 1:23:52

Keisha.

SPEAKER_08 1:23:53

What's up, Keisha? Where are you calling from?

SPEAKER_06 1:23:56

Philly.

SPEAKER_08 1:23:57

Okay, what part of Philly? North. North, north with the F or the T H.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:04

What a F.

SPEAKER_08 1:24:07

What's going on with you? What you got for us today? Your phone going in now. Can you hear me? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What you got for us? What's up?

SPEAKER_06 1:24:18

No, I just was calling to say free to jail.

SPEAKER_08 1:24:20

Oh, okay. You said that's a lot. That's a heavy statement right there. Free the jail.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:27

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_08 1:24:29

All right, well, we thank you, man. You see, that's all.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:31

That's all I wanted. I just wanted to say free to jail. Spread for their friends.

SPEAKER_08 1:24:34

For sure. You staying cool?

SPEAKER_06 1:24:37

Yeah, I'm cool.

unknown 1:24:38

All right.

SPEAKER_08 1:24:38

Well, listen, you enjoy your day. Stay free, stay, stay safe. Because girls go to jail. Women can go to jail too, I should say. So be make sure you just stay in sucker free and staying safe. That's all.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:50

Okay, I sure will. You too too. God bless you.

SPEAKER_08 1:24:52

All right, thank you. So, yeah, man. You know, phone lines is open. But I what I was speaking about, uh, my son, I just like I like no matter what he does, you know, I'm gonna um continue to be there to try to support him, no matter what. You know, I but I as bad as I I wanted to be like, man, get out of here. But I just I don't think it's in me to do it unless he does some he had to do some something super, super crazy. I don't I don't know what that may be, but you know, I was I was shot out when I was young. Not probably not like he is, but I was a little crazy and I did some things that my dad was upset with me about. You know, I was running the streets, you know, living like a grown man, you know. And my dad wanted me to do things different, but I didn't. His nut is his nut stuff the the nut stuff that he's doing worse than the nut stuff that I was doing? You know how we determine what's better or what's worse. So therefore, my pop never turned his back on me. You know, so why am I turning my back on him? Especially by the things that's going on. But yeah, man, phone lines open 215-316-4492, 215-316-4492. Also, y'all, after this episode, y'all can go ahead and watch if y'all members can go ahead and watch the um uncut uh episode next feature. You know, we're gonna be in the in the episode talking some crazy, crazy, crazy real life jail stuff is gonna be available to members. Go ahead and watch that also July 18th. Y'all can be available for the get y'all tickets. And then um merch will be available at the event, and merch will be available online as well soon. I believe in in the next coming days, y'all can get your merch before you cut get to the event. That way you can have it on when you get there. Have the merch on. Um, anything else you want to say, so you you you and your phone was going. You you got beef? I'm duty.

SPEAKER_07 1:26:50

No, looking for somebody getting beat to death in jail.

SPEAKER_08 1:26:53

Oh, yeah?

SPEAKER_07 1:26:55

How you spend days watching that type stuff, man? This just reminds me not to go back. If I show you this right now. Oh yeah? Is that bad? Man, it's extremely bad. Somebody beat you like that?

SPEAKER_11 1:27:08

Just look, they got him.

SPEAKER_07 1:27:10

Somebody just sent it's uncensored. You can't even see it unless you put uncensored. Damn. He just in there just fake just beating him, just beating him, just beating him. Yeah, just beating him, just beating him. They beat you and he beat you and they beat you. Not on duty. Shh, not on duty.

SPEAKER_08 1:27:28

He can't even hide from it because they hold his. Yeah, man. I'm tired of seeing stuff like that. So what you what can you do? Tell us in the jails, who you speaking with. It's raw? What uh on duty?

SPEAKER_07 1:27:50

I can't really you gotta you gotta turn on your radio. We can't hear you. We can't hear you. You gotta turn your radio down.

SPEAKER_08 1:28:11

Enjoy your day, man. Appreciate you. No, no. No, I'm buying jeans at the show. Tell some of the jails who's speaking with. Listen, man. Listen, man. I I don't know no disrespect, man. You got a less you got you got a cricket, right? A cricket? No. Yeah. You want it's not your playing cricket? I'm team over. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_07 1:28:44

I'm doing a little something now. I'm on the floor, but god damn, I ain't underneath the floor. Shit, goddamn.

SPEAKER_08 1:28:49

No disrespect these people got crickets out there. Because cricket might want to pay us one day to dump me promote their uh their bread. I don't disrespect cricket. You got a cricket, it lowers your phones, you got a phone. Shout out to Mr. Stacks 2633. Shout out everybody, Dark and Beauty. What's up? You know, you got um Turkey Bands. You know, everybody that's in there, man. D Mac 2373. You know, we got everybody in in the chat, man. Look forward to meeting y'all for sure, man. You know, um, I was in New York, man. Shout out to New York. New York show a lot of love, man, up there. A lot of people show love and and why uh with the podcast. And it's just crazy sometimes, you know, when you when you when you when you get recognized for doing the right thing. How important is that?

SPEAKER_07 1:29:36

That's important a lot to me. People do that. That's my fuel.

SPEAKER_08 1:29:40

My kids listen to you. I let my son listen to you. You know, I appreciate that, man. You know, shout out to everybody, gang here. Tell us in the jails, we speaking with.

SPEAKER_10 1:29:55

Yep.

SPEAKER_08 1:29:56

Yo, what's going on? Who's speaking with?

SPEAKER_10 1:29:58

Yeah, what's up, what's up, Jeez?

SPEAKER_08 1:30:00

It's who? Jeez. What's up, Jeez? Who you calling from, bro?

SPEAKER_10 1:30:05

I'm up in Wilkesbury.

SPEAKER_08 1:30:07

Wilkesbury. A lot of a lot of guys go out of Wilkesbury and do the wrong thing, man. Hopefully, you have to be doing the right thing, man.

SPEAKER_10 1:30:14

Nah, no, no, no, no. I'm out here working hard.

SPEAKER_08 1:30:17

What's going on?

SPEAKER_10 1:30:18

Can you put in the back seat? Hey, I got a I got a question, man. How y'all be dealing with cutting people off?

SPEAKER_08 1:30:24

Cutting people off.

SPEAKER_10 1:30:26

You know, I'm in my 40s. I'm I I see our old to see y'all grown, man. How y'all be dealing with that?

SPEAKER_08 1:30:36

Listen, man, you know, for me, cutting people off is easy. The reason why is because normally can you hear me?

SPEAKER_10 1:30:50

Yeah, what you say? My bad, my bad.

SPEAKER_08 1:30:51

I'm saying cutting people off can be easy, man. It can be it can be difficult or it can be easy. I'm gonna tell you how to make it easy. You make it easy by leveling up, and if they can't level up with you, then they're gonna be cut. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_10 1:31:07

What about family and all?

SPEAKER_08 1:31:08

Same thing. You can't you can't bring everybody with you, man. Who don't want to level up? Because if you keep if you keep uh building up yourself as far as what you got going on, they're gonna fall off anyway because they're gonna be stuck in the same spot. If they're not trying to, I'm just talking about mentally. I ain't talking about financially all the time. You just continue to to build yourself up mentally, you know, and you know, financially if you you know, if you're able to. And those people, those ties will be will be cut right then and there because they're not gonna be able to go with you or even compete with you or talk to you, or be a part of what you got going on. I'm telling you, and if you do that, you'll see that people will start falling by the wayside, man.

SPEAKER_10 1:31:45

And then yeah, and that's that's what's been going on, man. And I'm I'm shocked at who it is, family, friends, and all. I just wanted to get your opinion on that. I've been start watching a podcast.

SPEAKER_08 1:31:56

Yes, it only become becomes difficult we when you're trying to bring people along with you or trying to force people to be something that uh um other than what they are. That's what's gonna become difficult for you. You can't drag people along with you. You gotta make everybody gotta um make the decisions to level up along with you. All right.

SPEAKER_10 1:32:14

But but but but I appreciate the knowledge, man. He's gone. I'm having fun in the podcast. Since I found out about it, I've been hooked.

SPEAKER_08 1:32:21

Thanks, man. Appreciate it, man.

SPEAKER_10 1:32:23

All right, and I like that little of a drawing he do on the weekends. Uh that uh the clips.

SPEAKER_08 1:32:28

Crazy clips, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:32:29

Yeah, I like that. I like that.

SPEAKER_08 1:32:31

All right, appreciate you, man. Enjoy your thing. You too, man. Tell us from the gels. Tell us from the gels we're speaking with. Bree. What's up, Bree? Man, you over there?

SPEAKER_11 1:32:50

I got I gotta I gotta I got a question for black, man.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:54

What's the question?

SPEAKER_11 1:32:57

The people need to know. I they be asking me, so I I think Beck needs to explain.

SPEAKER_08 1:33:03

What's that?

SPEAKER_11 1:33:05

So, so alright, if you in the jail, right? And you in the uh instead of a homie, they always be thinking like uh if a homie get uh do something out of pocket or something like that, he always gotta get ran up type or get you. So what's other ways that the homie might get disciplined in the jail?

SPEAKER_07 1:33:25

Um see that's different because Philly guys, if you ain't getting sent the fuck out the jail, I don't remember us doing nothing else. Like the other groups do shit like that PT physical training, or you might get beat up for like five, 10 minutes, or you gotta go in there and rumble. Like, we don't we didn't we didn't take that approach. We was either if you was 066 underneath that act and you did something that you wasn't supposed to be doing on a compan, you know. I at the time I seen you get checked in. I ain't seen you getting DP'd uh disciplined and beat with a shower shoe or holding up a crazy. Yeah, niggas be getting slapped and you take five slaps with a shower shoe when that's the same.

SPEAKER_11 1:34:04

That's what I'm saying. What's the what's the what's the craziest discipline outside of outside of getting sent up top that you saw?

SPEAKER_07 1:34:10

Oh shit, like niggas sitting in there washing clothes in the bucket, you gotta wash all the homie clothes, uh hand wash. I seen a nigga get that. I seen a nigga gotta wash all the dishes for a week straight, like on a unit. Whatever whoever cooked out of bowls, they'd bring you a bowl, a bag of dirty bowls, and your job was to be in the cell, making sure each bowl was squeaky, squeaky clean. In your toilet? No, in your sink. Okay. Yeah, but yeah, other than that, yeah, I was doing none of that.

SPEAKER_08 1:34:38

Absolutely, I was doing none of that. Yo, I think I think I came to the visit.

SPEAKER_07 1:34:42

We had a shower shoe mark when you're no, I never had a shower shoe mark on my hair. Shower shoe never been nowhere near my face.

SPEAKER_11 1:34:49

I saw, I saw that they had what this was the uh the Mexicans, they had the no, it wasn't even Mexican, it was uh New York boys, whatever it was blood boys. They had the uh they had the top, it was like four or five boys, right? So in the workout, like in the workout set, like the top craziest boys, and they had ball coming out on every rec move, four corners. You know the four corners, right? No, what's that? It's it's like you're gonna have him in the box in the square. He's gonna be in the middle. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He got to hit okay. Yeah, you so you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, I know what you're talking about. All right, so he's gonna so when he faces you, you're gonna do whatever workout you're gonna do, or you you might do drop and do 500 burpes or something. And he got to do that, and then he got to do them. Then he's gonna face the other next corner. There's four boxes of four corners he gotta face. All right, and and then the other dude might do some crazy stuff too, and then and then his version, and but but the thing is he gotta do this. He every move, it might they shift it up on him every hour, every hour of the hour. Yeah, they they sending, they sending four fresh dudes out there, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:35:59

The next hour at the next 10-minute move, he got a fresh new four coming his way. Yeah, that's a hell of a DP. That's DP, that's all discipline. Yeah, I ain't never went through none of that, though.

SPEAKER_11 1:36:09

None of them circumstances, none of that.

SPEAKER_08 1:36:12

Yeah, all right, Bree, man. Thanks for calling.

SPEAKER_11 1:36:16

Okay, all right, man.

SPEAKER_08 1:36:17

Appreciate you.

SPEAKER_11 1:36:18

All right, send no more.

SPEAKER_08 1:36:21

Yeah, y'all. We're taking maybe one or two more calls. We're gonna get up out of here. We got a few more, like maybe two or three minutes left. We'll get up out of here. But five slaps with a shower shoe.

SPEAKER_07 1:36:30

Yeah, I thought I came on the that's what I'm saying. I don't know. No, no, no. But I'm telling you, you keep saying you don't know. I'm telling I told you. Then you keep saying it over again. Well, I don't know. I'm telling you, it ain't so you never got slapped with a shower shoe. So it's five five slaps with a shower shoe. No, yo, what type of who comes up with this stuff, man? Man, guys, come up with that, man. There's discipline rules, yeah, and then you know the shower shoe is the nastiest thing in the jail. That joint be in the shower, it'd be dookie in the shower, it'd be it'd be bjorn in the shower, it'd be semen in the shower, it'd be pee, spit, whatever you can think of is in the shower. So the shower shoe is very, very comfortable with all this nastiness I'm telling you about.

SPEAKER_08 1:37:12

So tell us from the jails we speaking with.

SPEAKER_13 1:37:19

This is Dollar Bills.

SPEAKER_08 1:37:20

Well they come, what's going on?

SPEAKER_13 1:37:22

I'm good. How y'all, man? Chill it, bad, chilli. So I wanted to call in and respond to the question, right? Which was uh, you know, is the hustling worth it? And you know, we all know the answer to that as grown men now, right? Yeah, but coming up in the hood, that behavior is indoctrinated because that's all we see for successful dudes getting money. You know what I mean? As opposed to like, you know, won't come up in the vested neighborhoods where even if our family, as far as the men, ain't the most successful, even the neighbors and the guys in the hood ain't like whereas though we can look at them like, yo, Mr. Such and Such, you know, he he this, he that, and making a good living. And you know what I mean? Everybody gonna struggle together. And and and the only way that dudes is getting ahead is by you know, hustling, throwing rocks at the penitentiary or whatever. You know what I mean? And we all gotta go through that through that same cycle because that's all we think until we realize, like, no, I ain't trying to do jail. You know what I mean? And and to the caller, the boy from Baltimore that said, you know, how can he say something to his son? Then though the men around him also been through the system, is no greater person than him to share his experience with his son. You know what I mean? Because he he been through the fire himself, so he can give young in a play-by-play on what to expect, what's gonna happen, instead of like feeling bad, because damn, I've been through it. He's gonna look at me like I'm talking out the side of my neck. It's like, no, you didn't you the perfect one, you've been through it, and you was pop, you know what I mean? And and I I want to salute y'all, right? Because y'all come up here and give your strength and your experience from both sides of the perspective, and that's what's so dope about the podcast and why y'all connect, because you provide, I'm just saying, hypothetically, you provide the working man perspective on how you can still achieve certain things without doing crime, right? And black provides the perspective of someone who did something, took a major L, and now is home looking to overcome all that. And even though it seems like a daunting task because you at the age that you at in life now, black, and you there so much in the penile system. Listen, you free, bro. That's priceless. Yeah, so in that regard, you rich as fuck, my nigga.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:35

Right.

SPEAKER_13 1:40:35

Because see, when you was locked up, all you wanted to do was get a chance to come home. Now, what you was gonna do to get money and stay home, that was afterward. But first and foremost, you wanted to get out just to get a chance. Right. So, with that alone, bro, you got a you got a shot just as much as the next person. Because you ain't behind them bars, you know what I mean? You're right about that. So y'all sharing, so y'all sharing y'all's pain is pain lesson on y'all, and then it provides hope for the other people. So, like, don't never downplay what you don't have because the only way you're gonna get what you want, bro, is a day at a time. It ain't gonna come overnight. It ain't so, you know what I mean. Just have patience, bro. Which which I already know you got because of who you sit next to, you know what I mean? And I know feet want good for you, you know what I mean. But at the same time, when you left to your own devices, don't let the same time whisper to you. You know what I mean? So, you know what I mean. That's all I wanted to say, and also but yeah, you said what a tsunami missile? A tsunami missile. He fake still on that.

SPEAKER_07 1:42:01

Don't it sound crazy?

SPEAKER_13 1:42:02

Don't that missile sound like it'll take off half of the earth? When you said that, right? I said, Damn, a nigga drop a missile and a whole tsunami star.

SPEAKER_07 1:42:12

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's crazy. Tsunami missile. That boy, you gotta make it sound crazy.

SPEAKER_14 1:42:20

Appreciate you, man.

SPEAKER_08 1:42:22

Appreciate you, man. Thank you, man. Thanks for that. I forgot all about that. A tsunami missile. What the hell? Can't with that. But listen, y'all, man. Also, I want to say this before we get up out of here. You know, um, y'all can listen to us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, iHeartRadio, um, Amazon Music. We are available on all platforms. All platforms, man. Hopefully, I'll see y'all at the show. And hopefully we don't get hit by um a tsunami missile before Saturday, July 18th. I look forward to meeting a lot of y'all whoever whoever can make it out, man. Um, just talking to y'all, just you know, having a good show. Um, just sitting up there just chatting, man. It's really gonna really be about y'all, man. Honestly, about the about the people that support us. Because at the end of the day, at the end of the day, we've been really doing this uh just to, you know, for the people, honestly, man. So, you know, thank y'all for being a part of the journey. Anything you want to say before we get up out of there?

SPEAKER_07 1:43:22

Man, Monday, man. Monday is the beginning of the week, man. Everybody coming off their weekend, man. Relax, man. Work. It's grind week, it's grind time. We back at it. But always remember, be conscious outside of what the things that you gotta do. Be mindful. You know, someone told me one time, man, driving a car, man, you got to think for other people. And I use that slogan very because you do. You really got to say, you know, you might be doing the right thing. How you told me if the car would have hit us the other day, we it'd have been his fault because he didn't turn the breakup. Oh, yeah, but they'd have made you lie because what I'm saying, his fault was because he know what he did. He ain't used no damn blink or not. That's a perfect example about people, places, and things.

SPEAKER_08 1:43:59

Yeah. If you are somewhere that you ain't supposed to be, even though you ain't out there selling drugs, if you're out there and you get shot, it's your fault. You knew what was going on in there. Yes. So if you are somewhere and you go to and you go to jail or something happened and you and you ain't got nothing to do with it, but you end up getting caught up in it. But you knew what was going on over there. You saw it coming on duty, and you get locked up or go to jail behind it, that's your fault. So we gotta understand people, places, and things are very, very important and very detrimental to you if you don't pay attention to it. So listen, y'all. We'll be back tomorrow again, live, possibly with another guest. Got some great uh guests coming up. Um what they got after we go off here? Got crazy clips after this. Y'all can watch that.

SPEAKER_14 1:44:44

Not crazy clips.

SPEAKER_08 1:44:45

I'm sorry, not crazy clips. Uh uh Tells from the jails uncut. Tells from the jails uncut. So um, thank y'all. Uh merch on the way. Anything else you want to say once again? We will see. I hate to leave. I hate to leave, Mesm. So I hate to just shut down the show. Not me.

SPEAKER_07 1:45:01

Not me. I would I will leave your ass up here.

SPEAKER_08 1:45:03

Yeah, up here, sweating in that.

SPEAKER_07 1:45:04

Yeah, you talk about.