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Village Vets
“Future, Falcons & Foolishness”
In this unfiltered conversation, AC Lee (later joined by co-host V) delivers piercing insights on sports, culture, and community while maintaining the authentic voice that has made Village Vets a must-listen podcast.
The episode kicks off with AC Lee's breakdown of the rain-delayed Cartersville-Calhoun high school football showdown, celebrating local athletic talent while lamenting how weather disruptions affected the game experience. This naturally transitions into a passionate analysis of the Atlanta Falcons' latest fourth-quarter collapse against Tampa Bay, where AC doesn't just examine on-field performance but digs deeper into organizational culture issues that have plagued the franchise for years.
When discussing the Jalen Carter-Dak Prescott "Spitgate" incident, the conversation elevates beyond typical sports talk to explore accountability, respect, and the unwritten codes that govern player conduct. AC offers a nuanced perspective on retaliation and proportional response that challenges listeners to consider the human elements behind headlines.
The podcast reaches its most profound moments during an extensive analysis of Young Thug's revealing interview. Rather than passing judgment, AC examines how environment shapes worldview, questioning whether we focus too much on criminal behavior without addressing its root causes. "This ain't you being stupid, you're just ignorant... you have a flawed worldview that is not acceptable to the majority of people in the world, but it works for you in your circle."
After V joins midway, the conversation expands to explore economic ownership within Black communities compared to other cultural groups, NBA Hall of Fame debates between Carmelo Anthony and Dwight Howard, and a candid discussion about gender identity that refuses to settle for politically correct talking points.
What sets this episode apart is its willingness to tackle uncomfortable topics with honesty while maintaining respect for different perspectives. Whether you're a sports enthusiast, cultural commentator, or someone who appreciates authentic dialogue, this episode delivers substance without sacrificing entertainment.
Subscribe now and join our village of listeners who value real talk over rehearsed narratives.
well, I was gonna do a countdown. Jesus, this microphone is too loud. Why are my microphones so loud? I'm sorry, guys, but yeah, no, I was gonna do a uh little 30 second countdown while I was finishing up my song. Uh, before, and uh, I didn't sorry. Uh, we're not doing a countdown, we're just jumping right into the show. We've got about a quarter of Monday Night Football played as we were sitting here recording and as in we, I mean me, but you know, we got it right here on the iPad, on the setup. You know what I mean. I've got my water, I've got my, you know my nicotineotine. I would shout them out, but, uh, they don't pay me for that.
Speaker 1:But if they, you know, if you're open to paying village vets AC Lee, uh, washington winning, you know any of them. You want to come over here and just, uh, and and and, and. You know, rock out with your boy and rock out with the gang. We're open to it. But hey, man, it's AC Lee here from the Village Vets, also from Culturally Inappropriate, with AC Lee and Washington winning. Make sure you go subscribe on Instagram, you subscribe on YouTube, you subscribe on TikTok Village Vets, village vets pod village vets podcast. You just type in village vets anywhere and you'll find us again youtube, apple podcast, spotify, uh tiktok, instagram facebook zone and so forth. Come join our village man, and maybe you too, uh, can become a vet. All right, man.
Speaker 1:So I'm going through the topics today because we got I mean, we got full topics, man, we had a great show last week. Hey, I want to apologize to everybody who was watching the show last week. We had some technical difficulties those of you who know where I live, man, I live in the sticks, it's country out here and the Internet options weren't the best when I moved up here. So you know, we got AT&T air right now and this should be up in there. It's really up in the air how the Internet is going to perform. So I understand that from a streaming perspective, it doesn't always look the best. It doesn't always sound the best. I'm totally aware. It's a problem that we're working through and recently AT&T Fiber has become available in my area. So we're looking to upgrade that fairly soon to provide you all a better streaming show. You know what I mean for you all that watch it. But again, if you missed the stream, go to Apple podcast.
Speaker 1:Village Vets is there for those of you have been around already who follow Big Baby's podcast, ac Lee and Parley Pete now, unfortunately, inappropriate with AC Lee. You can go check it out there as well, because I post all my stuff. You know where it needs to be as well, because I post all my stuff. Uh, you know where it needs to be anyways. So let's get to the first topic. Man, so this, this, this first topic, I wanted to uh, we, I thought we were going to hit together as a group, uh would have provided it would have been a better conversation, uh, with us all, but it's just me talking.
Speaker 1:And it was the Cartersville Calhoun game, right? Uh, you know some, you know we got to bring it to the town. We got to let the town know that, hey, we're locked into what's going on. So I went to the game. It got delayed so many times. It didn't start until like almost 10 o'clock and I knew, unless this is a tight game, I'm not going to be here all night. I'll be darned if I'm spending what. I got there about 7.15. I'm not staying at a high school till one o'clock in the morning. That sounds crazy. But again, like at my ripe old age, young age or however you want to call it a 33, I don't want to spend that much time there on a Friday night even if I'm not doing anything on a Friday night because if I decide I want to partake in some beverages, well, I drove to the game and I've got to go home in order to partake in my beverages and talk on the phone and do the things that I enjoy doing, although I did enjoy watching some good high school football. It was a tight game early on. Then in the second half, cartersville uh really started going crazy. It's 35 14 uh. When I left almost uh at the end of the third quarter, towards the end of the third quarter, and then uh, calhoun came back. Uh, the 35 35 game. Then cartersville drove down uh to hit a game when a field goal. I saw a lot of uh fodder about it on on Facebook the next day, not even knowing that the score was what it was, because I didn't come home and watch the game.
Speaker 1:Actually, after the game, I'll tell y'all a funny story For those of you who are aware of the village vets you know me and Todd, you know how we get down. You know how we like to hang bro. We went to the local after the game, right, and the local, I mean it's the local watering hole here and let me tell you, we sat at the bar. He drank a water, I drank a Sprite. We just looked at each other and was like, bro, let's go Time to go home. You, yeah, you, go into your house. I'm going to go to my house because we out here being responsible but we're not having fun. Why are we here and not saying that being responsible isn't fun? Because being responsible is fun. But obviously we're at a bar and we were both having to drive, so that we we took proper precautions.
Speaker 1:Uh, what else do we got here, man? Uh, we've got the? Uh, what's it called? We got a festival going on in cartersville this week, um, this weekend, excuse me. Uh, on saturday let me see what's the name of that groove fest. Yeah, they're doing group. Uh, shout out to black bartow. They got groove fest going on downtown. Uh, this weekend, hopefully.
Speaker 1:Uh, man, I've got so much going on that day. I've got a birthday party I'm supposed to go to. I've got a housewarming slash engagement party Shout out to Big Alston that I'm going to. Hopefully, throughout all of that, I have some time to make it downtown to show love, but also vets get out there to talk to the community, touch the people that we're talking to. And, you know, maybe we find some guests to come up here or we find some some topics that we're missing out on.
Speaker 1:Because, you know, we want to make this show for you all in the view. The show is your show, because there is no other show from our culture who's talking about the things we care about, talking about the things that we go through, and that's really why we built the show. You know that. That I mean that's not the only reason. I'll be honest with y'all. That would be uh disingenuous to say that we only built this show for you all as fans. But you know, todd, vijay and I had an idea of doing a podcast years ago, but the technology wasn't in place for us to actually do it in different areas. At that time Todd was in Nashville, vijay was here in the Ville and I was in San Diego. So when I finally moved back, and you know, after Todd moved back, we go, ok, let's put this together and that's what we end up doing.
Speaker 1:And then, after you start seeing the reception, the love, the feedback, the different guests, the comments, everything that y'all think I don't like and I complain about when, when I'm just sitting up here talking during the show. Now we greatly appreciate it and this is for you all. You know I know y'all don't listen to WBHF. I don't even know if WBHF, like, has their shows on podcasts. I have no idea what's going on over there, not tapped in over there, but I know that black people, young black people in our age demographic aren't listening to that and that's not even the type of media that they want. And we want to give you all the type of media that you want. We want to be able to talk to you about the things that you care about. Yeah, it's cool that you know.
Speaker 1:The big podcast that everyone listens to talks about national issues, international stuff, what's going on regionally for them. We wanted to do something to talk about Cartersville and hear perspectives from people of Carter, from Cartersville, about life, whether it's a local issue or it's a national issue, local topic or national topic. And I think last week's show was one of our first steps really into that, because we reached out to some people who were involved in, uh, some internet fodder back and forth. Shout out to uh, dncb, cbd, coming up here and kicking it with us. Uh, you know, kicking it with the vets. They came out and they talked about the stuff that was going on and you know we want to be a place to where people can come and get their stuff off. You know if going to go ahead and tell you if you got some Facebook drama, you got some Facebook beef, you're going on Facebook rants and it's getting a lot of engagement in the field. More times than not, if we know you, we rock with you. We're going to reach out to you because we want to get you up here so you can articulate yourself, we can ask some questions and maybe we can get to some answers and some solutions. And that's one thing I loved about the show that we did last week.
Speaker 1:Despite the drama, the beef that uh our guests had with uh someone else at the end of the conversation, they were willing, they're willing to to drop it. You know what I mean. They want to move on in a positive direction, to where there's no static and I'm not saying that they quote unquote have beef with each other. But obviously there was a problem that we saw and we looked at it. We were entertained by it. We had our feelings about it. But more importantly, I think we're moving towards a resolution and I'm not on some higher than higher than now, god, god type stuff. No, I'm not on that, not at all. But at the same time, if we can use this platform as a means to bring people together and resolve issues, we're definitely going to do that and on that, I need you all to understand too, because you may not have Personal relationships with Media personalities. Yes, we are the people you know. I may see. V is V, dean is Dean, rue is Rue, shaw is Shaw. Right, we are Our own individuals but also understand that as Media personalities, especially when we're dealing with drama and stuff like that, we're only trying to provide a good conversation and move toward a solution. In those conversations.
Speaker 1:Anything that somebody says up here and unless it comes out of anybody, anybody who works on this show's mouth, right, pause. If that needs to be put there, I'll just play it, just just for the heck of it, cause we're probably not going to get a lot of Kung Fu Kenny drops today, because it's just me by myself, and making those borderline jokes Aren't as fun when you don't have somebody sitting next to you to try to make feel uncomfortable, or we just said some outlandish stuff, but anyways. So, yeah, don't take anything too personal, that that that is said up here, and don't take anybody else's words as as, uh, our words or our representation. Right? Because, again, man, we just up here talking shit, having fun and trying to bring the community together. Right, cartersville's the Ville. We call it the Village to Village Vets because we've been around for a little while, but at the end of the day, we care about the village and keeping the village together. And yes, I do have on shorts. They're extremely short. Let me pull them down just a tad.
Speaker 1:Okay, now that I've got out of town business, I want to talk a little bit about the Falcons, the same old Falcons. I'm not going to stay here too long because if you want to get my true Falcons takes, mycons takes, my NFL takes, then tune in on Wednesday for Washington winning, where Parley Pete and I, who are both at the game, break everything down. We discuss the game, we discuss everything, we discuss how we feel, we discuss what we saw, this, that and the third right. But what I will talk about with you all today is something's got to change. I'm not talking about quarterback. I'm not talking about defense. I'm not talking about pass rush. I'm not talking about line. I'm not talking about weapons. I'm not talking about the DB's cover. I'm not talking about any of that stuff, hell. I'm not even talking about OCDC head coach GM. I'm talking about the brain trust.
Speaker 1:Now, if you look at the Vic years, you look at the Matt Ryan years, you look at the Desmond Ritter stint, the Marcus Mariota stint, the Taylor Heineke stint, now the Michael Pennix project, as we'll call it today, because it's his first year as a starting quarterback, kind of like Baltimore man. We don't know how to close out games, whether we give up a lead, which we did yesterday, or we miss a field goal that we should make. There's got to be some changes in Atlanta and you can't fire the owner, but, my God, can we pressure him to sell the team and I don't in a vacuum? I don't think Arthur Blank is truly the problem as an owner, but I think his allegiance to Rich McKay is a problem and we have to get the stench of Rich McKay as far away from the Atlanta Falcons as possible, and I don't think that happens under Arthur Blank's leadership. I don't, I don't know, I don't know what, why that relationship is what it is. I don't know why he thinks that he has to have Rich McKay around, but the Falcons have a culture issue and it's deeper than just the employees. It's deeper than the employees who work for the Falcons. I think it goes to ownership, you know.
Speaker 1:But shout out to T-Cuz man, let me apologize to you. Let me apologize to you, dog, because I sent out the Facebook. I sent out the Facebook post, talking noise hey, t-cuz, where you at, I'm looking for you cause I know you the big Bucks fan in the Ville. And then you hit me on the DM's. I don't be checking my Facebook DM's like that. So, for anybody in general, if you're trying to reach out to me, yeah bro, I don't be checking them Facebook DMs like that.
Speaker 1:I got to be better about that, especially when I'm popping shit on Facebook, because I definitely would love to pull up on you at halftime at some point during the game just to dap up, talk a little noise and keep it moving. All right. But shout out to the Bucs man, the Bucs, you know. They won the game, although we did miss that field goal at the end that Youngway Coo should have made. Well, he really shouldn't have made it because he shouldn't have been on the team. And I'll tell you, from the fan perspective, I felt that we shouldn't have brought him back after what he did last year. But even when he came out to kick, the cool chants weren't that loud.
Speaker 1:Usually you can hear the whole cool. It was like cool you can hear, you can just hear the other stuff over the cool chants. And that speaks to how the fan base feels about him and I don't think that what the fan base thinks is the most important thing, but I definitely think it matters. And yeah, ku got to go Some other week. One reactions I enjoyed that Ravens-Bills game, probably one of the best games we'll see all year. Unfortunately, there's something going on in Baltimore similar to what's going on in Atlanta, and it's not knowing how to close out games, maintain leads, keep doing what got you there and, instead of slowing down to make sure you win, step it on their throat to make sure they lose. But you know, todd Monken, he'd got some Georgia in him. He was Georgia's OC when we won our back-to-back national championships and, uh, you know, I think that Monken, I think he got some of that.
Speaker 1:Falcon stench on him. Let me find out. John Harbaugh and Rich McKay got some career crossover. Let me find out. John Harbaugh and Arthur Blank got some type of crossover. You know, it probably doesn't exist because I don't remember John ever being on our staff. I remember John cutting his teeth in Philly. So I don't really know if there's actual crossover between him and between he and Rich, but I wouldn't be shocked. Maybe they got the same mentor, maybe they got the same therapist, maybe they got the same best friend. I don't really know what it is, but what I do know is that between the Falcons and the Eagles it's something about these birds not flying in the first. In the fourth quarter they getting shot down and it leaves the fans in a terrible place. Fourth quarter, they're getting shot down and it leaves the fans in a terrible place, especially the Baltimore fans. Let's think about the Baltimore fans.
Speaker 1:You got Lamar Jackson. You know a two-time MVP could have been three. You know what I'm saying? Double could have been triple. Ain't that what Hull said? Right? That's Lamar Jackson. That's their quarterback.
Speaker 1:And then you have Derrickry uh, one of the best running backs in the game, the only running back currently in the league that has a shot at the hall of fame based on what they've done so far. Don't get me wrong. Saquon is a hall of fame talent. I don't know if he ever gets there, but derrick henry should be a hall of famer now. If he retires today. But Derrick Henry should be a Hall of Famer now. If he retires today and if he averages, I think, 77 yards a game, he'll move up to top 10 in rushing NFL history. Hall of Famer. He fumbles their offense stalls out, you know, in the fourth quarter and Josh Allen goes crazy and I just look at it and go man, what's wrong with these birds? Why are they getting shot down in the fourth quarter regularly? That's a real culture problem.
Speaker 1:But do you move on from John Harbaugh? I mean, you got one of the best rosters in the league. You got a good coach who, when he has adequate players, he wins games. He's won a Super Bowl. What do you do? I don't want to overreact to it, but I think it's important, you know, as a fan, to put this stuff into perspective. But I also will tell you and I'm going to liken this to the Steelers Pigs get fed, hogs get slaughtered. Don't be so thirsty for a championship that you walk away from above average really good, maybe even great, to go back to terrible, awful average? I mean, just think about it. Ravens fans awful average. I mean, just think about it.
Speaker 1:Ravens fans, steelers fans, y'all are bothered by where your teams are because they don't perform in the playoffs the way that you would like them to. Now for the Steelers it's a bit more understandable, because your quarterback situation has been terrible since pretty much since. Le'veon left, even with Big Ben was still pretty good. He wasn't great and you needed better and you want it better, but you know you couldn't move off of him and he was too good and your organization is too good to be picking at the bottom of the draft. I understand that.
Speaker 1:Ravens as well, y'all are consistently a good team. You're at the top of the AFC North, a tough division, top of the AFC year in and year out. So then you got the Falcons and I tell this all the time to my Steelers fan friends right, I don't have any Ravens fans in my life, but I would tell them the same thing. You don't have any Ravens fans in my life, but I would tell them the same thing. You don't want to be us. I understand, because you have rings, you want to get more rings and you want a ring every year and the season is a letdown if you don't get a ring. But when you have a guy in your building that you know is capable of winning a ring, has proven that he can win a ring, I don't think you move on from this guy for just the new Wiz kid. Right.
Speaker 1:I knocked the Falcons for choosing Coach Rye over Bill Belichick or Mike Vrabel or even Coach Harbaugh. Jim Harbaugh right. You get Jim Harbaugh in your building and you don't let him leave. You saw what he did Year one playoffs. Year two beat the Kansas City opening week. Justin Herbert throws for 300 yards. Quentin Johnson has a pulse. Oh my God, it's crazy what happens when you have a good coach in the building.
Speaker 1:And to even talk more about Jim Harbaugh, remember Michigan wanted to run him out because he turned the program around immediately. Then he started to struggle. He started to struggle a little bit, but he was still 10 wins. He just couldn't beat Ohio State. He finally beats Ohio State, wins the national championship. Just be patient. Wins a national championship. Just be patient. Don't be so quick to run above average out the door to replace it with, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Now, it's one thing. If you're down here, like the Falcons, the Panthers, you know even the New Orleans Saints post Sean Payton. Sorry, I have an NFC South bias we can even look at Miami. We can look at all these different teams who don't win Super Bowls. I know the Saints have one, but these are non-Super Bowl winning teams. They make the playoffs from time to time, but on a regular season basis they are middle of the pack to below the pack. Is not being the number one year in and year out, worth dropping from four, five, six, seven of 32 to then possibly becoming 31, 27? Maybe, maybe not. It's up for you all to decide, but I think we should be slower to fire people. And then you know, understand that only one team wins a championship every year. I can go on for days about ring culture, but I'm not.
Speaker 1:Let me get to Jalen Carter and Dak though. So real quick, spitgate. I think it's important that we talk about Spitgate because it's important. Jalen Carter gets thrown. He gets tossed from the game before the first play from scrimmage he and Dak have a back and forth and Dak spit at Jalen Carter, jalen Carter spit on Dak. Jalen Carter gets tossed. Dak comes out and says I was just talking, I had to spit Blah, blah, blah. I didn't mean yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it sounds good, dak. I don't believe it. And at first, when I saw the Jalen Carter spit without the full context, I said he should be fined and he should be suspended, because we have to make an example out of him. And I'm not talking about the NFL, nfl, do whatever you do. I'm talking about Philadelphia. My light just turned off. That's not great.
Speaker 2:Just give me a second about Philadelphia, my light just turned off.
Speaker 1:That's not great. All right, we bought. But if you're Philadelphia, I'm saying you have to suspend this guy because he comes in with some character issues. You know, take it how you want it, but he comes in with some character issues. But, more importantly, we are a well-oiled machine. We are the Philadelphia Eagles. We're coming off of a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1:Nick Sirianni has one of the best, if not the best, winning percentages of coaches in NFL history. I don't know the exact percentage. That's why I say one of the best, if not the best right, but you have that. You got good players coming in and out every single year. You got a great GM. You got a great owner. You have a great system in Philadelphia. Nick Sirianni in what? Four years, five years, fifth year, he's been to two Super Bowls. He gets to the playoffs. You know what I mean. He's a. He is managing that ship as well as anybody can and even if we don't want to give him the credit for being an elite head coach, he is providing elite results, just like his quarterback is. You know, jalen Hurts may not be elite Elite results. Aj McCarthy's not good, by the way. Sorry, anyways, but I was saying you got to suspend him. You got to find him. You have to let him know that, hey, man, you matter to this team and you can't allow your emotions to get in the way of us winning games.
Speaker 1:I understand you're a human. I understand you get upset. I understand that people are talking crazy to you and you want to respond. But it's also spitting Spitting on somebody when a play hasn't even been played. And again, this is my first thought before I saw what Dak did. I'm like. I'm like no, because spitting on somebody is one of the most disrespectful things you can do. There's not a word that you can say that's more disrespectful than even spitting at a person. I'm going to get to that in a second Dak. I'm going to get to that in a second. You know, you slap a grown man in his mouth. It's disrespectful. You call a man the B word. It's disrespectful. You call somebody some racial slur it's disrespectful. But you harking that shit up and spitting it in somebody's spit it at somebody, damn where it hits them, damn if it hits them. I don't even care if you hark it. Pause. But just the idea of you spitting out of your mouth towards somebody intentionally is one of the highest levels of disrespect and I think it should be handled appropriately. Now I'll get back to what I think should happen to jaylen carter. First let me go to that. Hey, man, that that Cowboys offense, I ain't like that.
Speaker 1:A couple of reasons. As a former athlete former high school athlete, you know, never played at a high level I believe in having guys to do certain jobs right. Chris Carter got in trouble at ESPN when he said, hey, you need a fall guy. And I say, yeah, no, you need a fall guy. And on teams you have crash outs, fall guys, enforcers. My star player never, should never, have to beef with anybody. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:I was a quarterback in high school. Db. You do something to one of the star players. I'm going to find you Now, jalen Carter. Here's the thing that you do, though. When you're at it with that star player, he spits at you. Don't worry about it, because see you spitting back, is going to give them 15 yards and then get you tossed. He doesn't have to feel that 15 yards.
Speaker 1:Now, me, if I'm Jalen Carter, I'm going to get through this O-line at some point in the year in the game. I'm going to have a chance to hit Dak, and it may be late, it may be. Oh, I could pull up, but I'm not. And that's when you get your get back. Or you get that hit, that clean, legal hit, and you take him down, you're in that pile and then you get your get back. Because see, what people don't people who haven't played football don't understand is that pile. It's something serious in that pile. Now you know what I mean. You get away with a lot of stuff in that pile. What I can't see. You can grab people, you can kick people, step on people, people, you People. You know what I'm saying. Elbow, you know, depending on what your mouthpiece say, you can bite somebody. You can get your get back, and I'm not going to sit here and say play dirty, but get your get back. So in all of that, I think that both should be fine and I think at this point today, if I sit here, I don't think anybody should be suspended. I felt differently when it happened in the moment. But that's the beauty of allowing our emotions to die down.
Speaker 1:But another thing I want to talk about is the whole spitting thing. Right, some people say, well, dak spit at him, jalen spit on him. It's different, sure, sure, maybe. But think about this if you shoot at me and then I shoot you, ain't that self-defense and forget legally and just normal people talk, isn't that warranted? You disrespect me by spitting at me. You said you were just spitting on the ground, sure I? I look, I used to dip, I spit.
Speaker 1:Sometimes there are ways To spit and you can Control the projectile of your spit. So it's not like Let me start that out there, me talking about spitting. But like you can spit on the ground right next, you ain't gotta spit out. You spitting out while you're talking shit to somebody, it's a hostile act. On the ground right next to you ain't got to spit out. You spitting out while you're talking shit to somebody, it's a hostile act. It's a hostile act because spitting on somebody is legally assault. Spitting at somebody. Come on now you see the framework I'm using with.
Speaker 1:Now understand spitting is way different than shooting. Spitting is way different than punching. But if we're going to put them in similar categories, which again, spitting is assault, punching is assault. It was an attempt, and when you try to do something that's illegal and you get caught, even if you're not successful committing the crime, your attempt to commit the crime subjects you to punishment. So if we're going to punish one, we got to punish both and honestly, I don't think Jalen Carter should be punished anymore Now. Because Dak spit at him, so Jalen's already been punched. Because Dak spit at him, so Jalen's already been punched. He got kicked out the game. Find him cool. If I'm Philly, I'm in the league office Like hey man, I want my time back. Dak need to do something. He need to pay somebody some money Because at the end of the day, we have to deter people from spitting.
Speaker 1:Hey man, that shit ain't cool. I've never. I only know of one person who's ever spit on somebody, and I won't say any of the people involved in this, but I already was iffy on that human being and hey, that was actually a good hang Hold on a minute, boss, new Kung Fu Kenny. But I don't respect him. I don't respect him as a man. You spit on somebody, I'd all slap him, punch him. What kind of man are you? We can't allow behaviors that we don't agree with, behaviors that we don't support to to go to fly by the wayside, or go by the wayside and just fly by and we just don't care about it, simply because, oh well, he didn't spit on him, he spit at it.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna ask y'all you might be able to to to keep your relationship with your girl if you don't like. You know I'm saying for, for, not cheating, but you tried to cheat and it just didn't happen, or it hadn't happened yet. She's still gonna be just as mad. You know what I'm saying. She ain ain't going to be like oh Well, you tried, and because you shot it shorty and you missed, okay, no problem, nothing to talk about, no repercussions within the relationship. No, you've messed up the trust, you've disrespected your partner and you have to deal with those consequences, just like Dak disrespected Jalen Carter, and he should have to deal with the consequences. You know, back to week, one reactions Baltimore. That fan puts his hands on D-Hop. Then he puts his hands on Lamar and Lamar pushed the shit out of him. Why should Lamar get punished? The fan touched him first.
Speaker 1:I heard a media personality say you're a two-time MVP, you have to be above that. No, I don't. I'm a human, and in nowhere else in the world do we ask human beings to allow somebody to place their hands on them, not respond, and then, if you do respond, you are now wrong because somebody was aggressive towards you. That just goes against society, like the balance of how we live. You know, for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. So you can't be out here making that action without expecting an equal and opposite reaction. So, fan, if you cross that line, it's one thing to talk shit. Right Player talks shit right back to you.
Speaker 1:I go to Falcons game season ticket holder five years. I talk shit to fans in the game. I expect fans to talk shit back to me when I talk shit to them. But one thing I don't do is I don't cross lines that can take us past just talking. Why? Because I understand for every action there's an equal but opposite reaction. But we live in a world where there's not as much accountability as we should have. You know, because I think about the relationship with players in media well, not players in media, with stars in media in general, and it bothers me a bit.
Speaker 1:So last week, cardi B, you know she was dealing with her legal stuff. She was in court and she was rocking a baby bump. Now today she may not be pregnant, that may have just been they made it seem like she was just doing some media stuff because she's also using this as a to promote her album. But a reporter asked cardi, hey, with the rumors of you pregnant and and it could be offsets you know I'm not using the exact words, but it could be offsets. Do you see an issue with co-parenting?
Speaker 1:Yo, this girl grabs a pen, throws it at the reporter and just goes on a diatribe about. As a man, you shouldn't ask me that question. Do you hear women asking me those types of questions? And I even had a conversation with a good friend who defended her actions and I'm like no, bro, I don't care how you feel about the question. You can think the question is nasty, you can think the question is filthy and it's inappropriate. We we can have that conversation, but that does not prompt you to then be physical with me because I asked you a question. You could answer the way that you answer. You can curse the man out and then keep it pushing, but you don't have to throw anything at him, especially when you're fighting a case because you can't keep your hands to yourself and you've shown in history of not being able to keep your hands to yourself. Just because you're a star doesn't make it okay Just because somebody asked you something that you don't like doesn't make it okay.
Speaker 1:Now I talk about equal but opposite reaction. If I say something crazy to you, the equal and opposite reaction is you speaking crazy to me. And now, again, as a woman, she throws the pin at a man. He cannot then equally react to her. Why? Because he's a man. You can't put your hands on women, and again, I agree with that. Men don't put your hands on women, but women don't put your hands on men. Men don't put your hands on women, but women don't put your hands on men. Men don't get violent, because then we again we start to create this imbalance where there aren't accountability for action Excuse me, there are equal and opposite reactions for the actions that people commit, and then that creates that creates a space to where you're not held accountable. So you then believe that your actions are okay, forget, acceptable, you think it's okay. And that's where we start talking about this trauma, childhood trauma people go through. It's so important to understand that when somebody witnesses something in their home, even if society tells them they're wrong, you have to understand how they could believe that it's right. Like comment. Subscribe village vets. Village vets pod on all platforms. But again, there's no equal and opposite reaction. That's so important.
Speaker 1:And then you talk about this relationship with stars in the media. You can answer whatever question that you want to answer and you can avoid any question you want to avoid, but that doesn't mean that you can't be asked those questions. Part of what makes stars so large is that the media covers them, not just because they're good at what they do. There are a lot of extremely talented people, extremely rich people, who work in industries or choose to not be covered by the media and they're not covered by the media. But those who are covered by the media stand to gain from their media coverage, especially somebody like Cardi B who gets endorsement deals, and part of her having indoor getting endorsement deals is that people like her. People are interested in her. She's entertaining, whether you like her or not. But just because you're entertaining, just because you're a star, doesn't mean you get to shit on the media.
Speaker 1:And this is not me as somebody in the media, trying to defend my place in the media, because personally, as an independent media personality, I would not have asked that question Because I would expect a nasty response and I personally don't operate. I don't operate that type of platform. I'm not just into tea and junk, but I'm only into having real conversations that matter, and learning and growing and me asking her about her challenges with possibly co-parenting a fourth child with offset, while no longer being with him but doing whatever it is that they're doing. Uh, that's not what I would do in that setting outside of the courthouse. Now if carter want to come sit that big, that big ass on his couch and put a dent in it, we can maybe heat up to that conversation because it's an appropriate conversation and allows her to get her stuff off. But the last thing on that cardi b said I want to hit yo this whole.
Speaker 1:You don't see women asking me as a man. Hey, dog, I'm a reporter and I want to get information and I can't get that information without digging and asking questions. Am I crazy for saying that? I don't think so. I think that's as a reporter, you have to ask questions to get answers, because the person you're reporting on can't read your mind. You have a boss or you are your boss running your platform, and you want to get a certain level of engagement, a certain level of you know, so you can get your ad dollars up and you can mobilize, you can show that you have a group of people who tune into what you're doing. They're locked in on what you're doing, so if you endorse something, you can make more money, right? Yeah, I just think it's so super layered.
Speaker 1:It's super layered and I think we try to oversimplify a lot of these things and we try to give the people that we like the benefit of the doubt and say, hey, it's OK, it's so, and so she's popping. Who is this person? They just try to go viral. Or maybe they had a legitimate question. Because it's a legitimate question, hey, you appear to be pregnant and you're a public figure and you also have a public figure. Discuss your business publicly. Hey, how is that co-parenting situation going to work with you two not being together? I think it's a valid question. Again, I wouldn't ask it, but cardi b can't get mad at the reporter for asking it and then she can't go on live or whatever.
Speaker 1:She went on going on a rant and talking shit about another platform. She was talking about Joe Budden, his podcast for talking about her and say and here's what a lot of these stars do they don't read all of their press clippings, they just read the press the press clippings that come back to them, back to them. And so when you have press clippings that aren't as favorable and they may be consistent from a singular source, you rebel against that singular source. But because you're living your life, doing what you do and that media outlet is not a part of your daily routine, you respond to that stuff in a way that is not aligned with the platform and their view of you. But just because a star rebels against the platform and you're a fan of that star doesn't mean you should shit on the platform or cut off the platform For one. You should listen to whatever the star is responding to and if it's a clip, you should listen to the entire conversation so that you can get the context of it. And, more importantly, you should familiarize yourself with the media person what media platforms and how they cover, uh, your favorite stars, to see if there's consistency there.
Speaker 1:If the village vets blows up and we all like we have like a Twitter group with spaces where people are talking, read it, and all of that stuff and other outlets cover what we talk about or cover us as individuals and what goes on in our life. I'm not going to crash out on a platform for covering me negatively until I know the full story. And we have to know the full story. But the problem is people don't read, and in today's world it's not literally read, it's sit there and listen. But again, it's not literally read, it sit there and listen, but again, it's take the time to understand the information that you want to respond to.
Speaker 1:And we live in this microwave society. So we want to, we want to respond, we want to respond to the nasty peas on the plate, but not not realizing that this chicken hitting, these potatoes hitting, this corn hitting, you know, the little appetizer, the spinach artichoke dip that the dog made from scratch was hitting, and ooh-wee, we got homemade pound cake and some ice cream. Boy, this shit hitting. We want to focus on the nasty peas on the plate. Hey man, hey, I didn't like the peas, but I'm not going to shit on the nasty peas on the plate. Hey man, I didn't like the peas, but I'm not going to shit on the person who cooked for me, I'm going to shit on the chef because they put one thing on my plate that I didn't like when the entire meal was great.
Speaker 1:No, we can't do that, similarly what Meg Stein's doing to Aiden Ross what President Trump does on a regular basis by trying to discredit people who cover them unfavorably. Don't get it twisted. When you're that famous, you're that big of a star and people care about you and just like you for what you project and not even who you truly are because they don't know you. You don't want people to cover you negatively. I get that, but you can't knock people for, not for for covering things about you that they don't like while still not shitting on your character and highlighting the things that you do.
Speaker 1:Well, here we are, uh, canelo and bud fighting. Uh, I don't really care about that. I was just gonna talk about it with the guys because we're hopefully we get together and watch the fight. Uh, same with floyd versus mike. That's more of a group talk. I'm just going down all of the uh, the different, different things we have here.
Speaker 1:But let's get to the young thug interview. I think the young thug interview is important uh conversation to talk about. It's a super prevalent in the black community and and more importantly, more importantly, there are a lot of gems in that interview that I think we we should kind of like pull out and talk. Let me grab my notes. Sorry, guys, I forgot to grab my notes before the show. I should have them sitting right here.
Speaker 1:One of my first big thoughts from Young Thug, and just Young Thug, the interview. Young Thug in general, because if you know me, you know I always said hey, if YSL is guilty of what they did and Young Thug is guilty of those things, lock them up, throw away the key, do whatever you need to do, get these people off of our streets, because there are law abiding citizens who should not be subject to that nonsense of our streets, because there are law-abiding citizens who should not be subject to that nonsense. But, man, his upbringing was awful. You know what I mean. Mom had 11 kids. From what it appeared, his parents weren't married.
Speaker 1:He said his dad was responsible for 15 people, and when you have that many kids, you don't have enough time to give them the love and attention that they need as a parent. So the desire and the necessity for the love and attention doesn't go away. It's just shifted from outside of the house, from inside of the house to outside of the house. It's very similar in relationships. Honestly, if we're gonna sit here and have an honest, real conversation, there's not, though, if you're not getting the love and appreciation, if you're not getting your needs filled in the house, whatever those needs are, they're all different needs. I'm not just talking about physical needs, because we always jump there with relationships. But if your needs aren't being filled at home, you're probably going to go elsewhere to look for them and unfortunately for Thug, he chose the streets. I mean, the man said he didn't realize until these jail calls came out get all this pushback finally coming home that he was living messed up.
Speaker 1:And it's hard to tell somebody as successful as he is, both in the streets and in music and in business, that hey, man, you're wrong. But just because you're successful doesn't mean you're living right. It just means you're good at something and you're profitable and you're climbing up that ladder, but that doesn't mean you're living your life outside of that in a positive way. You can be successful in the streets. It doesn't mean you're living a great life because the streets are illegal. What happens in the streets of a lot of that stuff is illegal and because we are under a legal system, this becomes a right or wrong thing.
Speaker 1:No, bro, you're living wrong because you're jeopardizing the people around you, whether it's the violence that you're committing towards people or the violence that's being committed towards you. It puts everybody around you in a spot. Also, you're putting yourself in a spot to be away from your loved ones, your parents, your kids, your friends. Oh, you're also a business owner and an artist. So not only are you removing, are you taking yourself away from the people you love and they can't physically have you, the people that you provide for. You can't provide for them, and the people who are expecting you to deliver for them so that they can make their money and in turn you make your money. You're not making yourself available for them. So I take that and say man, this, it's so deep and we have to. You don't judge a book by its cover. You got to read the pages but we don't like to read. I joke about it, but I don't read like I used to anymore.
Speaker 1:But the whole thing left me conflicted because going into it, oh man, doug was talking to all this street shit and I don't agree with it. But then he ain't even upholding it because he talking forget what he did in interrogation room. He just doing all this pillow talking in jail when? Why are you doing all this talking on the phone and giving up information that matters, when you know something's going to be, know something's going to be, when it's going to be recorded. And I'm not even saying ratting from the street point of view of ratting. I didn't grow up in the streets, but I grew up. Hey bro, you don't tattletale, you know what I'm saying. Like you, just don't do all of that and you damn sure don't gossip on the phone. That's being recorded. Because let me tell you something I've had.
Speaker 1:I've been in situations where I've had phone calls that were recorded, not from behind bars, I'm talking about on the phone having a serious conversation that got heated, and then something. Then the phone calls start getting recorded. Hey bro, I hang up, I hang up. I've been in situations where somebody tried to record me. I don't talk. I've been out with where somebody's tried to record me. I don't talk. I've been out with people. People try to record me, take pictures. I cover my face and it's not because of what I'm saying or what I'm doing can't be recorded, dog, I do a podcast and I give y'all my real thoughts. Dog, I was on here talking about buying Preparation H the other week. You know what I'm saying Because I had a hemorrhoid, bro.
Speaker 1:I'm very comfortable putting my stuff out here to people, but at the same time I'm mindful of what I say, I'm mindful of what I'm doing, I'm mindful of what I record, I'm mindful of everything that happens. For the most part, I move fairly intentionally Ooh, new word. But I say all of that to say that, man, when you're doing that, I don't care if you told these people this stuff, it's still nasty. And if everybody heard every private conversation I've had about them, whether we've discussed it with each other or not, it doesn't need to go out to the world. You know what I'm saying? Because once other people get your mess, they can add whatever they want to add to it, say whatever they want to say to it. And then now you've totally lost your way. You've totally lost your way because you have outside influences influencing what's going on. It's kind of like, hey, if you got to go through your partner's phone to find out that they're not, you know, being the most faithful, what do you really want to be with that person? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Like you're looking for private things to validate your public feelings, why don't you just take your private feelings and stand on them. And I know, I know that's a little confusing and maybe not the best example. But there are things that we do private, like just imagine all the stuff you put in a group text. Should that go public? Some of the stuff you put in a group text. Should that go public? Some of the stuff you say to your friends. Should that be public? Especially presented without context, without understanding the relationship. You understand what it. So when you're outside person looking in, you then see that and then you have a feeling on it and then you may influence the people on the inside because of your feelings on it.
Speaker 1:Back to the relationship thing, it's one thing to find it in the phone and y'all address it there. It's a whole nother thing to show up at a restaurant and they're sitting next to each other and you're out with your friends oh God, I'm embarrassed. Or a picture comes out like at the Coldplay concert. I'm pretty sure that guy's wife, that CEO's wife, knew that he wasn't the most faithful husband day in and day out, but for that to be put go viral. It's different when you know that everybody around you is looking at you crazy when you see them together.
Speaker 1:So Thug should have just been smarter and not been pillow talking on the jail phone. Nothing wrong with pillow talking. Hell I miss pillow talking. I like to pillow talk. You know, there's nothing like sitting laying in the bed with your old lady after some good whoopee and just telling her all the tea and getting her feedback, and then her telling you all her tea and you giving her feedback and y'all going back and forth. So I feel Thug's sentiment. But you can't act like a gangster and all this stuff and do that from my outside of the gang world opinion. But I'm sure y'all are Thug fans and y'all are more gangster than me. So y'all tell me I'm wrong and I don't know what I'm talking about. Kind of like Ryan Clark did with Peter Schrager. Hopefully gets him on the thin ice that they're suggesting and I hope that ice, like I don't root against Ryan Clark. I don't root against Ryan Clark. I would just rather not Hear him on social media. I don't watch ESPN shows but I still get some of the feed Less Ryan Clark. It's just some more good entertainment.
Speaker 1:What else I think of a lack of accountability? There's a lot going on here, but the way I want system, which during this administration, this flies right in the face of that of figuring out the why. Just don't figure out the what with the criminal? We figure out, we do the investigation, we go to trial, we get to what. More importantly, let's get the why. Because if we truly care about making our society a better place, if you truly are a MAGA, right, make America great again, which I don't know exactly what that means, but if you're serious about making America great, then you don't believe in just locking people away for a set amount of years and then bringing them back into society without setting up anything to make them better.
Speaker 1:Huh, oh shit, I got a co-host showing up. Hey, take a seat, it's ready for you. Be careful. Be careful about this, about this wire right here. I stepped on it. No, no, no, you're on the couch, your mic is set up, your headphones are there. Well, yeah, you can adjust that how you want to. Let me get my, my drink off your tape. Hey guys, uh, v just showed up, so it's no longer just me. Uh, sitting here yelling at y'all. Boom, see, I got the game right here for us. Because, yeah, because we're idiots to actually think that we should do a podcast on Mondays. I mean, it was great when it wasn't football season.
Speaker 2:But then it just came around to it. So Damn you sound tired I am. I'm beat Y'all, I'm back, man. What's going?
Speaker 1:on.
Speaker 2:Tell me something good. Tell me something good. What'd I?
Speaker 1:miss. Oh man, let me see I talked about the Cartersville-Calhoun game.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:I talked about our same old Falcons. We can go back to that a little bit Well.
Speaker 2:first, what did you say about the Cartersville-Calhoun game?
Speaker 1:Well, first tell Facebook that you on the show now, so they'll watch it. You know, don't nobody want to watch me sit here and talk by myself.
Speaker 2:No, we good, we good, they coming here, they come here, they come right now. Candy in the building, baby, come on y'all, tap in, now Tap in Tap in Jarvis Terry. Tap, in Tap in, everybody tap in.
Speaker 1:We here, hey man, so fuck it. Let's go back to the Cardinals-Cahoon game. You didn't show up, Me and Dean was waiting.
Speaker 2:I was out there the whole time. I literally didn't call me back. I sat there the whole time. I was sitting out there and I got right to the best shit.
Speaker 1:It was set up before you got here.
Speaker 2:I know, but my shit ain't how I want it. Alright, we back. Yeah, it wasn't. Everything was how it was supposed to be be. I was sitting up trying to get my vibes right out there and then by the time I walked in, it was they scored again. I was like, yeah, that's a wrap for me, because I really didn't want to come in. That three hour delay fucked me up. I won't lie to you. That messed me all the way up. I was gonna show up at least by like the first, the first quarter, but nah, it just wasn't. What what I was looking for?
Speaker 1:no, I got this like. I got there like 7 15. Coming. It's a big game. He was on time. I'm gonna get here on time. So if if dean don't show up, I'm gonna find somebody go sit with or I'm gonna give me a good standing spot and not just kind of because I showed up late the other week I didn't have a good standing spot.
Speaker 2:See, lee, but who I usually do what I don't realize. Shout out lee, I'm, I'm on. From now on. Anytime I get there super early, I'm going to sit down. I'm going up to the top and I got me a good little seating spot now with the Cochran's and Nate Mann oh, they up there deep, deep always. So, yeah, that's why I say I got me a good little spot now. But overall that game it showed me that Calhoun is probably going to repeat for sure. But it also showed me that Cartersville in itself we got to figure out something like I mean, don't get it twisted. I feel we are, we're dominant, we're dominant as hell. But I feel we took the break, we took the gas off the break, we put the, we took the gas off and start playing around and that bit us a little bit in the end, for sure kind of like baltimore man.
Speaker 1:And I'll tell you, though I think it's crazy and I don't know how I do it as a coach, because I'm not a play calling coach who, like, I'm not a play calling coach, right, as a guy who's coached at um. You know, I've coached a little bit in my life. I don't like common players, I like to teach and coach and coach individual stuff on the sideline. But I don't know how you coach that game when you have that big lead against such a good team and then you also have a stud at quarterback that you have to be worried about.
Speaker 2:Keep the ball out of his hand. You run the ball. Honestly, I ain't saying you got to keep running the ball, but I'm saying you do exactly what you was doing before the first quarter you screen them. We can hit them with screens, we can hit them with short passes. So what happened?
Speaker 1:How did the play calling change after 35-14? Because I left at 35-14. It sounded like Calhoun scored a quick touchdown before I even got to the truck. I dropped off because they threw a football and I just happened to catch one. It's in the car. If you want it, because you know you're a purple hurricane, I ain't got nothing to do with that shit, I'm a hurricane Adele.
Speaker 1:But then I walked to the local where me and Dean had a water and a Sprite Worse shit over, but I heard it sounded like Calhoun scored a touchdown. After I walked out but I'm like man four quarter Cartersville, been moving the ball like making big plays, like it's nobody's business. Your boy, the boy going to Georgia, number one, brady, yeah, couldn't stop him. The kid number 15 got the Ole Miss off him, couldn't stop him.
Speaker 2:That's Davis.
Speaker 1:The receivers couldn't be stopped. But damn all that. If Cartersville really had an opportunity and don't say too much, because you may know real stuff to get Trace in the building and they didn't allow him to go and compete for that starting quarterback job this year. I understand that you have a solid quarterback, but he has no desires to be a college quarterback. He's a baseball player who trace. No, no, no, no at cartersville.
Speaker 2:Oh, he's my nate. Yeah, and he's good.
Speaker 1:He's good nate, he's nice but if, if nate doesn't want to play at the next level, and trace is what I saw Like for one when I saw him on the field like he was playing soccer. Thick thighs, big ass you know what I'm saying Like trunky, big kid. Yeah, stuff that matters. When you're talking about projecting size and stuff, I go why would you not have this kid?
Speaker 2:at your school, I mean, but For the three-year plan, Because you also got to remember that Cartersville, I mean but for the three-year plan, because you also got to remember that Cartersville, I mean Calhoun is a powerhouse too, Like I mean in itself, Calhoun, shit. They had our number for a couple years. You know what I'm saying. So again, like I said, you don't lose going to Calhoun, and especially with a kid like Trace. Shit, he got the keys. He got the keys to the city as a freshman. He won shit. He got the keys. He got the keys to the city as a freshman. He wanted as a freshman. So it's like I'm not letting him leave. I don't give a damn what we got to do. If I'm the head coach, if I'm the uh, if I'm the ad whatever, like I don't give a damn what it is is with his mom being a principal over there. I'm not letting him leave.
Speaker 1:So it's not him going to cartersville is not cutting dry, as I've never heard no, no, no, absolutely not, no, no, so I. I was told pretty much cartersville told him he he couldn't compete for the starting job and that's why he's not hell, no and that.
Speaker 2:So and telling you the real, and I mean I'm I ain't gonna do too much, but that kid is he. He said like I mean honestly, cartersville, they could even before, like his freshman year. When you get told you damn near got the keys for four years for this whole program I don't care who you is, like, it's just tough to try and get up. You got to relearn the team. You've been with this group of boys for now. I think what is it? 11 years. I don't care who you is, like, it's just tough to try and get up. You got to relearn the team. You've been with this group of boys for now. I think what is it 11 years straight? Like I mean, of course you play some AAU travel ball, but again, when we was doing rec ball, when we was coming up, I was in Calhoun rec department.
Speaker 1:I thought he played with 2K.
Speaker 2:No, no, he for sure played with Quentin and 2K during like travel ball.
Speaker 1:OK, just travel.
Speaker 2:But he was playing rec, he was, he's a, he's a Calhoun baby, all right.
Speaker 1:So that checks out. Yeah, that makes it make sense, but now he he's a stud for sure it was. It was nice to watch him. Honestly, bro, it was. It was just good watching high level high school football being played and I hate that I missed the end of it. But let's talk about the Falcons. I gave my piece on it I hadn't talked to you about it.
Speaker 1:But let me tell you one thing, because I know you're going to talk about our kicker and I talked about this a little bit earlier. Okay, when he came on the field now I missed the first touchdown, not a podcast story. When he came out to kick, you know how it usually be loud as hell when they be going cool it was dense.
Speaker 2:It was dense yesterday for sure. It was dense for sure. I mean personally. So before I get to cool, let me just I'm going to say this, I'm going to talk about the whole game. The beginning, I felt like we started out solid. I felt like we finally are taking the routes. We need to get Pitts involved. Michael Penix he played like a stud. I mean, he played a hell of a game. Bajon Robinson he looked like the running back that we did.
Speaker 1:He had the touchdown but we could not run the ball.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, I felt like we did run the ball. I felt like that's where I'm going back with my response on this when Bajon was actually getting in space or running through the B and C gap he was producing. When we started trying to do all the dumb shit like trying to do the when we was on the third and one at the one-yard line. Trying to do all the dumb shit, like trying to do the when we was on the third and one at the one yard line, trying to do a sweep, just like certain play calling. I was getting pissed off with Raheem because it's like the play calling was just super terrible, like high school. It was weak and that's the thing. Like I said, it's overall just looking at the play calling, that was weak. I felt like a lot of the defense. I was super impressed by them. I won't lie to you, we did give up a couple big plays. However, this is the home, our front seven. I felt like I'm more excited for them than I've been in the last couple years.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, yes, this our front seven. I felt like I'm more excited for them than I've been in the last couple years. Oh my god, yes. So one thing play calling was terrible like like that. That that first down on the one or the two, we thought that was stupid, it didn't work. The running, running the ball on first and second down while the pass was working but the run wasn't, was stupid. But I'll tell you that, um, yeah, man, that that that front and they got sacks and baker was able to slip out and make some runs. But honestly, that made me happy because we had a pass rush. Right, we're not used to having a pass rush and, granted, the coverage is the coverage.
Speaker 1:But mike, mike evans didn't have a big day and, like in Tampa Bay, I got on my fantasy teams. I got Baker as my quarterback on both teams. I got Mike Evans on one team. I got Emeka Buka on two teams. I got Chris Godwin on the team. Like I believe, in Tampa's offense, baker threw for 5,000 yards, 40 touchdowns last year. Fuck, being a Falcons fan, I'm trying to win this chicken in fantasy, that's real. So, wade, we trying to win. But Mike Evans didn't have a big day Baker didn't have a big day. Our defense we gave up 24 points.
Speaker 2:Our defense was fine. That rookie the receiver should definitely win a rookie of the year. And Abuka, he is a dog. He like just just seeing that kid from the beginning. Then like him warming up him. I didn't get there till like oh, you were at the game yeah, but I was like I said, yesterday was sunday was a complete blur to me because, man I was, I was shitty from saturday night to sunday night, literally. I think I was drunk for like fucking 27 hours straight, I see.
Speaker 1:I didn't get drunk.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I got shitty. And then Candice Cleaning Service number one in the world, had to go knock out some buildings, had to get shit together. But when I tell you that was it was rough, you're going to have to start paying for them.
Speaker 1:Candice Cleaning.
Speaker 2:Service. Oh man Go to hell. So yeah, no, so yeah, no. Like I said so once, once I got down, got settled, got everything started rolling, it was a good time. But, like I said, going back to my last part, how we said coup, I've been saying for the last two years, ever since coup got them cleats stolen, we ain't seen that coup you didn't say that TL said it, but it's just.
Speaker 2:It made me realize ever since that happened, bruh, we ain't seen. You didn't say that, no, I didn't see it, tl said it, but it's just. It made me realize. Ever since that happened, brothers, we have not seen. We ain't seen, we ain't seen coup, we ain't seen young way somebody on the way yet and just, it's just to the point where it overall it looked bad. It looked bad as hell with him, because I'm just expecting, I just knew fourth quarter he was gonna get his name back this year. We was going to make it come like everything was going to come together and it slowed down. I ain't like not one piece of it. But you know, overall, overall I'm happy with what we look like. I feel like that we can, we definitely going. We're going to definitely make the playoffs. We're going to definitely I think we'll win out. Being real, I don't think we'll lose to Tampa when we go back down now.
Speaker 1:And yeah, realistically, yeah, I'm excited about the team. I'm not going to lie to you. I don't think Koo should have been back on the team this year after what he did last year. But I mean, who am I? I'm just a season ticket holder.
Speaker 2:I, who am? I? I'm just, uh, I'm just a season ticket holder, I don't I don't pay to watch the falcons every week. Understood on that, but I think so what I did, what I had tuned in on you. I was driving over here, what's uh. So what's, what's up with the thug stuff? What do you feel about?
Speaker 1:that Thug is a. He's complicated. His upbringing sucked For sure. I wasn't there.
Speaker 1:But when you talk about your mama having 11 kids and y'all living in a five bedroom apartment, then y'all finally get a house across the street from the project, and your house is smaller than your in your uh project, but you happy that you got a house, you got a yard and I'm just like there's. There's no way in hell that your parents can love you the way that you need to be loved when it's that many kids. I can definitely agree with that, though, but like, like you know, we talk about like I used to make jokes about the poor's a lot on the show, but like, when you poor, especially if you got somebody, what else you gonna do? You gonna fuck. So I understand why Thug is in the situation that he's in, and I don't fault him as much as I did a year ago, two years ago. I still think at some point you have to remove yourself from those situations, but at the same time, it's like telling a girl who watched her mama get her ass whooped by her daddy and then allow her dude to whoop her ass and be like, hey, this ain't right, but you go. This is all I know. This is what I've seen. Your product or your environment, exactly and and and I was talking about where we focus so much on the what in in the criminal justice right, we always focus on what somebody did or if they did it. But let's get to the why they're doing it and like, instead of just locking them up, let's find ways to help them be better.
Speaker 1:And think you know what I'm saying. Like it really hit me when he said brian realized I was fucking up until after all these calls came out and all this shit, like I ain't know I was living wrong, I go. You allegedly are responsible for people dying and you didn't realize that was wrong. But you watched your brother get killed. You know what I'm saying. You watch your brother dying after he went up and shot up a dice game Cause somebody talked about robbing him. You know what I'm saying? That's your big brother, so you think that's right. I'm supposed to go to the streets and handle my business, but me and you both know we got a legal system that, whether we agree with it or not, that we have to conform to because if we don't, we're gonna be hanging out with them so I can agree to disagree, let me say this.
Speaker 2:So the reason I say that is because it is yes, yes, your upbringing has a lot to do with a lot of shit that you go through as an adult, with what you really have going on. Thug he was, I think, one of the oldest of 11 in his mama house and I think the fourth or fifth oldest out of 15 with his daddy. So if you look at it, I guess my point of where I'm going with it is is Doug. I feel like he made some excuses realistically.
Speaker 1:He wasn't accountable.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I feel like he was making some excuses behind some of them. But let me be real, I didn't like when he said that he felt he was a fucked up person because he had because he talked about. I mean, I'm not saying it's right or wrong. Everybody gossip, especially with your, with your chick or with your guy. Like if y'all remind you just any of us as a human being, we all going to have opinions about some. The only difference is Picture if you locked in a cell by yourself all day long with one other person. You ain't talking to no mama, you ain't talking to no homies, you ain't talking to no girl. You ain't got no nothing.
Speaker 2:The minute that that hour you get on the phone with your people, you're gonna rush everything out, especially if you were somebody on the street. So, for example, like if I'm a somebody on the street and I know I done took care of everybody, I show love to everybody. When I'm home, while I'm sitting down in this cage, y'all can't throw me a little love. For example, what he said about Future I can't argue that. I feel I'm going to look for that love too. Like future, you supposed to be my boy as soon as I come home you ready to drop a song, but while I'm in here you don't want to do a free, a free thug concert for me, when you know I would have did that shit 20 times just for you. I would did a tour behind you.
Speaker 2:Same thing when he said with wham, with little baby, like I, little baby, and drake showed him, showed me real love. That's the reason why you won't hear too much bad shit behind them. They showed me love while I'm in this cage again. Niggas that when you get put in that box and you ain't got people, you ain't got your support system that you have when you home, that shit'll make you, it'll make you a dog, it'll make you a demon, especially when you feel all these people don't forgot about you because they think they think you gone well.
Speaker 1:I think that's where we're more aligned than than than it may seem, because I agree with thug and him saying and feeling the abandonment, talking about how ring the the big picture of the interview was right. I think you just want to be loved, that's it. Like he just won't love and that's most of us. We just have different life paths that take us to that different place. But but just hold on real quick before you respond. And I want to say this you can't get out talking about niggas talking too much and ratting when you are even the pillow talking right with his girl. I don't consider that ratting, but I consider it inappropriate conversation to have when you're being recorded, because now think about this.
Speaker 1:Obviously jill is different, but we take stuff from our real life and put it on the show. But we speak at, we speak on it in a way because we know we're being recorded, because whether it's people we know, people we're close to people we don't know, or people we don't fuck with, they may see it. We understand that there are public ramifications for that and there's a lack of context that could be added to that conversation when it's when it's recorded. You know, because you know how I am when I go out, bro, don't put no camera in my face, like, if it's not my phone, don't put this shit in my face. You know what I'm saying? Like cause that's how I am, so it's just. It leaves me conflicted, because I totally understand why he acts the way that he does and I would act the same way, but I just wouldn't project the anti-rat stuff the way that he did, especially if I knew that I was speaking on stuff in a public forum, because, again, a jail phone call is a public forum that should be private that's all.
Speaker 2:So what? What you saying is I I can agree to to a certain extent, but the difference behind that is thug didn't say nothing like that could get nobody locked up. What he was pissed off about was the fact that the people that told on him he could fuck around and put him in prison forever. The shit he was saying on those phones he called Glorilla ugly, he called, he called. He was pissed off at. He was pissed off at Future. He made a comment about Gunna shit. So I mean a lot of shit he was saying wasn't it wasn't personal shots, it was opinion based of shit he was saying wasn't personal, it wasn't personal shots, it was opinion based, like, if you feel a certain type of way again, like I said, when you sitting in a box for 23 and one, you got a bunch of time to think about everything that's going on. I sat in a box with two other motherfuckers for 12. But that ain't picture you doing that for five for three years.
Speaker 1:I was in that bed for 12 hours. Oh man, Nigga, it's awful. I would have wished I could have got a Wendy's cheese burger and tell on somebody Come on man.
Speaker 2:So that's the thing and it's like but it also go back to what you said as well it's like thug, yeah, he want love, but the thing is he don't just want love, he want real love. When you a millionaire nigga, you gonna get love from everybody. Everybody love you. When you up, when you got chicken, when you helping the whole community, you helping the whole Joan Burrell South. You know what I'm saying. So like it's easier that way.
Speaker 1:But I think that's where where he needs to grow and I'm not not gonna go through different things is. You know me, and you done talked about this privately, given my current life situation when you up, yeah, you won't love, and you, you, you get it. But then, when you ain't up, you really find out who truly loves you. And, yeah, it hurts when you're going through that process, don't get me wrong. But, nigga, I love you more now because of what I've gone through in the last few months. You know what I mean like, like as my dog, like we're closer because of shit I've gone through and the way you've been a friend for me in a different situation for me, not thinking that you were my friend because of because I was up, because that's not what our friendship was built on, but I was up, so, like, I don't know how shit works when I'm not up. You know what I mean. So that's why I say it's just so layered and that's why I hate the street Culture, the street code. I hate it so much because Yo, this nigga, just wants to be Loved like a human being and he's good at Music, but he's also fucked up in the head because of the environment he grew up in. And then he's like, hey, warner, you don't exist without me, how you gonna do me like this? I feel him on that.
Speaker 1:At the same time, if I'm Warner, I'm like, hey, nigga, I ain't do none of that shit, I wasn't involved. You want me to say this is a gang again if you, I don't involved. You want me to say this is a gang Again if you? I don't know what their private conversations are, so I ain't saying I ain't gonna call Gunna a stand-up man. I won't do that right, because Thug should not feel betrayed in the way that he feels betrayed if Gunna's a stand-up man. Like I tell y'all things all the time If we doing something illegal together, we doing something illegal together, we doing it together. And if we get caught it, what I? I'm gonna take responsibility for my actions. But if you're doing illegal stuff and it comes back and it can affect me and I'm not involved, I want y'all niggas to know from jump I'm not sitting down for you. I'll sit down for us. I'm not sitting down for you.
Speaker 2:If that's an open conversation that you have before them, people, then they should know not to even put you in that situation. So, for example, if Gunna, if he preached that and he was big on that, then cool. But the fact of the matter, bro, you got to understand who Gunna's daddy is. Gunna's daddy is true, and that's that's who Doug said like I only came and got you because of him, I only made you a superstar because of him. And the fact of that being the matter, bro you gotta. That's the reason why I say it like certain shit I get. If he made it seem like he wasn't on that type of time, he's not gonna be on that type of time, cool. But the fact that Sergio Kitchen made it seem like he he, what'd he say? He was crippling like a, crippling like a 60, crippling like a fool doing all this and that you can't pick and choose certain things, that's, that's really the only thing.
Speaker 1:I feel and I agree with you, and that's why I say I can't call him a stand-up man, because we'll never know the true details of what people expected from him. But I will say that one thing that we all have to learn is that nobody loves you more than you and you can't expect people, even if you have their best interest at heart with how you move with them, for them to have their your best interest at heart even. I'm talking about your family, your, your lady, your partners. Like it's a sad thing, but I guess because I've been hurt by people in life. I don't expect people to reciprocate what I give them. I only expect them to be themselves. So if you do something that's outside of your character, I'm hurt, but if you fuck me over by being the person who I know you to be, I can only be mad at myself for allowing you that access to me to then fuck me over.
Speaker 2:And I can agree with. That's how I move, like I'm one. I'm one of those guys I lead with I feel like everybody gonna fuck me over. So with that being, with that being my my mindset, like it don't hurt me when as much as when I get my feelings hurt and I know it's fucked up, it's a shitty mindset to have, but I'm one of those ones that Nigga, you've been hurt before.
Speaker 2:Exactly so I feel like I lead with. I feel like everybody gonna hurt me, regardless of what the case may be. So I just make sure, shit hey, if you gonna hurt me, just just don't break me. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:like don't fucking, I'm not gonna allow you to break yeah, exactly because I'm gonna put certain stuff in, whether it's the way I I think about shit or the access I give you, and I think thug hadn't gotten there yet and I hope, hopefully, moving forward, he's gotten there because I was bothered at how hurt he was, like he seemed shocked that people switched. You know what I mean. And if you look at any organized criminal syndicate and I'm not calling ysl a gang because thug said no, we wasn a gang, we were just a bunch of gangsters doing gangster shit, and so it looked like we was a gang, but all that shit wasn't in concert To some degree I believe that. Other things I do believe he set up Because again, nigga, you're not, it's PR. You got to spin a narrative, but I don't know man, it's thick and it's layered. And I don't know man, it's thick and it's layered.
Speaker 1:And I don't think there's a right answer about this. I just think it's an important conversation for people to have to evaluate. The people you're around evaluate got more to lose than that, because some people don't have more to lose. You know what I mean. Like Woody didn't have none. You know what I mean. Like he a trench baby. He gotta go be a trench baby. But like when you become thug and you get to that level, you then have to find ways to elevate out of that and remove yourself from that.
Speaker 1:And I'm not saying you don't be solid. I ain't saying don't go back to the hood, I ain't saying don't put your niggas on. All I'm saying is don't be responsible for obvious crimes, especially violent crimes. Now, if you want to push a little dope because you on tour and you you know I'm saying you buying big chunks of drugs for your consumption you know you can go to another city and move it. I'm not telling you to do that.
Speaker 1:But if that's what you're gonna do, all right, bro, whatever, I don't care. I don't care about niggas selling drugs because you ain't killing people. But then when it starts getting like killing people, even if it's quote, unquote, warranted by your street code, well, you're no longer in the streets. So you now need to move and operate in the codes in which, in the life that you're living. And if you're not, don't be disappointed when street shit happens. Cause, last thing, you look at the New York mob scene, the niggas who they be naming, they clicks after who they be naming themselves, after a lot of them snitched that's a fact.
Speaker 2:That's a fact, though, but it's like you said. It's just with that, though it's and we couldn't end it after this is closed out on this one. It's just more so, as I feel like with thug, though is one I feel like bank, bank is the one who bank is responsible for that whole interview he, he was so good.
Speaker 2:Bank was good as fuck on that. Bank did it. He asked the questions that need to be asked. He wasn't picking sides, he didn't do none of that. He literally was being open and, like I say, man, I got to give a shout out to Bank Because, bank, the way he conducted that whole interview, he let Thug talk, didn't cut him off, let him get everything he needed to say out.
Speaker 2:It was let him get everything he need to say out. It was one of the more. It was one of the interviews that if you got three hours, two hours and 59 minutes, to be exact, you got that time to sit down and really listen, you give your own opinion about it. Personally, I say this and I can close it out right here, is if you ain't never and I mean I ain't even gonna say never if you ain't been, if you ain't even going to say never, if you ain't been forced to sit in that cell and do at least a week, I don't want to hear nobody saying too much or can't call him a snitch because again, he didn't tell on nobody. Nothing that he said in those conversations could have got nobody locked up, couldn't have got nobody arrested, none of that he just made his opinion Talking to his girl, and the fact that those records leaked right after Gunna just left YSL. Hey, now Wax said he got tapes.
Speaker 1:I mean, I get it. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:alright, now Wax said he got the tapes. I mean I get it. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:It's a public record. So again Wax said it's a bunch of niggas down there, give them 500, you get what you want. That's what he said. I listened to Joe Budden called him on his Patreon episode Friday and they had a quick conversation and again I listened to it today. It was recorded. Friday. Wax said oh, now we're gonna release the uh, the mariah, we're gonna release the tape about him talking about he would get back with his baby mom, him and morales, him, morales is about to break up. That tape dropped what saturday, sunday, and now she on her talking shit, shit about him and he's in. Waxed it this on Friday.
Speaker 2:Well, I thought so. So, Mariah, I thought Mariah was riding with him.
Speaker 1:She was until like the last couple of days.
Speaker 2:Oh, until that last.
Speaker 1:So I mean that's the one with that, the one that just leaked today about him saying he wanted a baby by that, whoever that girl was, yeah, but but like it's jail talk wanted a baby by that, whoever that girl was, yeah, but but like it's jail talk, it's jail talk and but also whack being able to talk about it before it came out and then, like me, listening to it after it already came out, you just go. Well, that goes into me and my beliefs about whack 100. But last thing on this I'll say I don't really watch the Big Facts podcast. I'm usually not interested in their content at all, but I listen to the interview and I go. I don't think there's a question that he came up with that I probably wouldn't think, that I wouldn't think of yeah, but I could not get those answers.
Speaker 1:And that's what I appreciated about it, because he's a former street guy who's respected, who's handled himself honorably, and so when thug was saying certain stuff, he's like, hey, bro, we ain't on that no more. And I don't know if thug heard it, but he presented it in a way that thug would not stop talking and like, if I, if I say, hey, bro, you can't be doing no shit like that, he gonna shut up interview over. You know, I mean because I'm not a street guy, bro, you can't be doing no shit like that he going to shut off the interview over. You know what I mean Because I'm not a street guy. I can't relate to him on that level and I think that was so important and I'll just point that out as a blind spot that I have. It's like, bro, I ain't no street nigga.
Speaker 1:After listening to this interview, I'm going to be very I'm going to be a bit more about how I talk about street. Stuff does not change how I feel about it Big picture, but it does change how I feel about the people who are involved in it, because he really opened up the door of his brain and how he makes his decisions. And you go oh, this ain't you ain't, you ain't stupid, you're just ignorant Like you. You just have a you you have a.
Speaker 2:It's raised different.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you was raised different, you have a flawed worldview that is not acceptable to the majority of people in the world, but it works for you in your circle. That's fact. Hey, what else were you going to talk about, man? We got like like, honestly v, you picked the top because I've talked about it. Like I talked about the thug interview, so I haven't. I talked about the Thug interview, so I haven't talked about anything below the Thug interview. But if there's anything above it that you want to cover, like it's there, like I mean Canelo and Bud we talked about it. But the fights this week Floyd and Mike I think that's a better like we don't got to talk about it now.
Speaker 2:I think it's better when we have a lot of us in here to like talk loud about it okay, but again, whatever you want to talk about.
Speaker 1:What is that? What do niggas owe? So me and dean were at the game. We're talking, and you know how, like people talk about how, um, oh, she can sing for a white woman. Oh, oh, them white folks can cook. Hey, that white girl got rhythm.
Speaker 1:I start thinking about the stuff that, like black, people think that we own, like cooking. We don't own cooking. Nobody actually owns cooking, because everybody cooks, but we feel like we're the best cooks, but then when we actually start eating high end food, we're not eating nigga food. You know what I'm saying. We talk about everyday food. Then we talk about rhythm. We got the rhythm, the soul. We cool, we fly, people want to be like us, right, but you can't actually own that and profit off of it, yeah.
Speaker 1:And then we think about other cultures, like you think about Arabs. They own hotels, they own gas stations, right, own gas stations, right, that's kind of their corner. You have the jewish community. They own banks, they're lawyers, you know, I mean, that's kind of their corner over there in music industry. Then you have, uh, uh, white people who have their various businesses. Then you have, like the koreans you know I'm saying in vietnamese they own nail shops, they own the beauty stores, you know, I mean like all these different things. And then I'm like hey man, black people, we claim the rhythm being cool and cooking. Doesn't everybody else Like? What do we actually?
Speaker 2:own. I feel like we we definitely got to put us in rhythm and blues. I mean, I know you say R&B, I feel like music. I feel like that's our lane.
Speaker 1:I feel like no no, no, no, no, no. Not things we're good at, because we don't own the recording companies.
Speaker 2:Oh, so you mean economically what is?
Speaker 1:hours that you have to come to black people to get and then we actually control it, because I don't think we own and control anything.
Speaker 2:I used to say I would have said nigga a couple years ago. But I don't even own nigga, no more. They tell us that we shouldn't say nigga no more.
Speaker 1:Like Skip Bayless says, I don't think the N-word should be uttered. Bayless, you're not black. I don't care how you feel about the N-word.
Speaker 2:I don't think you should say it, but like, hey, white man, you can't tell me, I can't say nigga, you can't tell me, I can't say nigga. That's what I'm saying. Being real, what we don't own shit, we own ideas. That's tough, that's tough. That's tough. I would I'm going to have to come back on that one because that's a really good question but I ain't put no, I ain't put no thought into that. That's tough.
Speaker 1:And maybe we circle back when we got the whole gang In here and we can talk about what we should own and how we should Try to own it.
Speaker 2:Now that you say it, though, like and not being racist or Anything like that, but it's like when you think About, like Indians, they, gas stations, hotels, shit like that. When you think Like you said certain certain but and that's all the same thing. So I mean it's like it's certain shit, that like everything right hand in hand and something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, god damn that is tough, but just think about the show. Right, we own the rights to the show, yeah, but we didn't buy any of the stuff to make this show from a black company. If we make money off of this show, well, I pay stream yard, you know. I mean we pay stream yard to do it. He pays buzzsprout to host a podcast. Facebook doesn't charge us. But if we make money off facebook, facebook has made, so has made whatever they made before they bust it down to. Same with YouTube. You know what I mean. Same with Instagram. We can't even produce a black-owned podcast using black-owned shit to keep all the money In-house.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a fact, it doesn't exist. That's a fact and it takes me back to the killer Mike show that he did on Netflix when he tried to like do all these different stuff, only doing black owned stuff, and he couldn't buy a car because there's no black owned car manufacturers. You like had to use, like he ended up taking like a bus from a black owned bus company. You know what I mean. Like like a greyhound type shit or a leisure time.
Speaker 2:I've never thought, I've never thought about that, but it's still not a black owned bus you know, what. I mean, I've never. I've never thought about that, though being real. I've never thought about that. That's tough, that's tough as fuck. I've never thought about that, though being real. I've never thought about that. That's tough, that's tough as fuck. I've never thought about that. What do we on? I mean.
Speaker 1:I mean Jay-Z, one of our biggest billionaires that we. I mean hip-hop, fuck the other money-making billionaires. I mean a nigga who came through as talent and stuff that we strive for. Of nation, I mean rock nation. He may quote unquote, own it, but it's a partnership with live like. Yeah, like live nations would make rock nation what it is. Rock nation, live nation ain't black on like. We don't even own the shit we good at and dominate in. We don't own sports teams, but the leagues are. The two major cash producing leagues in America are ran by black players. We don't own teams. We don't own the companies that endorse it. We don't own the media outlets that cover these teams. You know what I mean, yeah.
Speaker 2:I've never thought about it that way. Nah, that's a fact. We still slaves. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah god, I've never thought about it that way. No, that's a fact. Like we still slaves, you know, I mean definitely that's a.
Speaker 2:that's a conversation we got to get the crew in here for, because that that is a good topic for sure. That's a good ass topic for sure. And I know I mean shout out mellow and dwight howard making that, uh, making that of Fame. But I do want to ask that I didn't like Chris Paul's fat ass. You know how I feel about Chris Paul anyway, I did not like him wearing a jacket over stuff being real and I know it's extra doubt and I know a lot of people ain't going to like that. I did not like him having a jacket over stuff.
Speaker 1:Well, it's not his personal jacket, it's his team jacket.
Speaker 2:I get it, I don't like it. I really don't, I just don't, I don't like it. You know how I feel about Chris Paul anyway, fuck.
Speaker 1:Chris Paul, I don't like oh no. I don't like it with LeBron, and you know I'm a LeBron guy. Why?
Speaker 2:Why.
Speaker 1:Why is LeBron and Chris Paul the first active NBA players to be in the Hall of Fame? Yeah, that's more LeBron, that's definitely LeBron. Building up the resume to be the GOAT. That's a fact, because Chris Paul's not in that conversation, so we don't care about Chris Paul being there. I just didn't like that either. I get you Chris Paul. Unless he is retired, chris Paul should not be an active Hall of Famer. Steph Curry's not.
Speaker 2:No, that's my only thing. It's like Kawhi Leonard should be there before he is, so it's like it's a bunch of shit.
Speaker 1:No, I ain't going to say Kawhi Bro I mean I have to Two-time MVP.
Speaker 2:two-time that right there in itself is more than Chris Paul.
Speaker 1:Chris Paul, game to game, has been a better basketball player than Kawhi Leonard over the span of their career. I think Kawhi at his peak is better than Chris Paul.
Speaker 2:I hate when people fucking say that and I don't know why. I hate when people say that. My thing is how I. I hate when people say that my thing is how, what did he, what has he done that made him a better player than kawaii leonard?
Speaker 1:he pretty much wins, everywhere he goes same kawaii.
Speaker 2:When kawaii is on the floor, same with him and uh.
Speaker 1:Unfortunately for kawaii, chris is on the floor more regularly than kawaii. But don't get me wrong.
Speaker 2:I think that kawaii quietest peak is much better than chris paul could ever be and I feel like that's but and then that's what you're saying, like and I think personally, though, I feel like it's just we only can say that from one from like, was it one or two years really worth of basketball that he sat out, which with the Clippers, the last year with the Clippers, or his last two years with the Clippers for real? But it's like ever since he came from Toronto he was banged up when he came from there.
Speaker 1:But remember, when he came into the league he was just a role player with Chris Paul, came in as a star and started whooping early I mean like chris and chris paul is likely going to have a longer career than kawhi, so chris paul has more years of whooping than kawhi, but kawhi has whooped harder than uh, chris paul, it's it's just a weird dynamic.
Speaker 2:That's why I say that's, I don't know, bro, I don't know, I don't know because, again, I don't, I don't agree in no way, in no point, in no point. Only because of I feel like, yes, he did come in with more, a bigger hype, but he didn't do, I mean, and he was nice in new orleans compared to Kawhi coming in as a role player and winning the finals MVP is like it's just this certain shit where I don't mind coming in as a role player if at the end of that second was it second? Year he won, second was it second?
Speaker 1:I want to say second year he was in the league.
Speaker 2:Second or third year in the league, I go get a final.
Speaker 1:He was 2010 draft. I believe they won it in 2014. Year four. Okay, cool my bad, so year three yeah.
Speaker 2:So three, four, whatever, I don't mind being a role player because, again, remind you, I'm coming in with arguably the best power forward ever. Play the game I got one of the top role players. Or, excuse me, top six men in the game with Manu the top role players. Or, excuse me, top six men in the game with my new I got arguably one of the best point guards is playing the game. Tony uh, tony uh, park park, excuse me. So it's like I say, bro, it's they have a full team, a full team. If I come in and I'm just playing my role but then at the end of the day, I win the finals mvp, I don't know, bro, I don't know, I don't mind being a role player coming in, but then, at the end of the day, it's my team. The ball got to come through me before we do anything for real.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to argue too much with you about it because I get it. I just I give Chris Paul credit for his longevity, but at the same time I watch how Chris Paul plays and has a basketball player. I wouldn't want to play with him. Same time, I watch how chris paul plays and has a basketball play, wouldn't want to play with him. I'm playing guard like nigga. Give me the ball so I can do what I want to do. Don't give me the ball and tell me what to do with it, even if you're right. Nah, like, let me, let me do me for a little bit then. Then you know the fourth quarter. You need me right here. Can't shoot. I bet. Second game, second quarter. I need to go boogie because you know, as sometimes, bro, you just got to get out there, got to get your own feet wet and do you so you can be comfortable playing in the role. But like, if you just sit in the corner all game and you ain't touching the ball, bro, I'm not rebounding or playing defense, fuck that.
Speaker 2:That ain't going to mess the whole flow up, but the thing about Mello versus Dwight, I Versus Dwight.
Speaker 1:I saw this post that put their career accolades next to each other. Mello made top 75. Dwight Howard didn't. That was baloney. And I think Mello, because of his association with LeBron D-Wade and Chris Paul, he gets elevated above what his actual output was. Don't get me wrong Mellow was nice Scoring champion. Bye Like. If I have a son and he decides he wants to play basketball, you will watch Mellow footwork. You will learn how to play out of the out of the high post, like Mellow, like you, you're going to learn that because that's just that translates to whatever position you play. But just in bullshit conversation we will put Melo over Dwight, just talking basketball, because the way Melo played it looked better. But do you really think Melo had a better NBA career than Dwight? I'm not.
Speaker 2:And I was just going to say no, I don't. Personally, I'm not even going to say what you just said. I don't even agree with that. Fuck man. You'm not even going to say what you just said, I don't even agree with that.
Speaker 1:Fuck man. You were supposed to be on.
Speaker 2:Mellow, I was supposed to debate this.
Speaker 2:I love Mellow, but that's what I'm saying. I love Mellow Again. Me and Ru we talk about it all the time, them short steps. I was a big fan of that. I love a big guy up, pulling up from wherever. However, man, when we when we seen that dude number 12 come in in orlando not all that other weird shit he had going on other when he came into in orlando and see how dominant he was, every game dwight, how was the best big man in the league. For his first, well, came in the league and on second or third he came in the league. In the third he came in the league in the 0405 season.
Speaker 1:Shaq was probably still better than him in 0405 after the Miami. It's about 07 to about 2012 ish.
Speaker 2:When did DeMarcus Cousins come in the league? He came in the league in 2011. All right, so I say between 2011 and 2012,. Like you said, yeah gonna go. He was, he was this, he was right behind shack. But even then, after year, after year, two of him being in the league, I feel he, even he even left shack shack got old, got you know again he got lazy dwight howard was. He was one of the ones.
Speaker 1:Dwight Howard led a team to the finals and Mello didn't, and so I'm like, hey, I get why, aesthetically, mello makes all 75, but Dwight Howard the first overall pick, not a second or, excuse me, a third. Dwight came straight out of high school. He didn't go to college. Mello went to college. Yeah, you won your championship in college, but you went to college. Dwight didn't have to and still went one. He came out a year later and didn't go one and Dwight got DPOYs. He got the All-NBAs, the first-team All-NBAs. He got the blocks, the rebounds. He got to a finals. He ended up winning a championship with the Lakers. Dwight was better than Melo and Dwight we talk about. Should AD be on all 75? Should Dane be on all 75? Should Melo be on all 75? That's the real question. Maybe he should be on all 100.
Speaker 1:But, like Melo, melllow is the nigga right. Mellow is the guy who's cool with the guys who got the hoes and then he end up with a baddie because his guys got five baddies over here. There's five of them and she came over here to go, but she didn't come over here for mellow. She came over here for there's five of them. She came over here to go, but she didn't come over here for Mello. She came over here for the crew, whereas Shorty, who came over here for Braun it's hypothetical came over here for Braun. Shorty came over here for CP, came over here for CP. Shorty came over here for D-Wade, because I think D-Wade, because he's the oldest one in the group D-Wade got a bunch of little guys to look ass.
Speaker 2:Little bitty asians, come on him and dwight howard might be the same I'm not gonna put that on d-way.
Speaker 1:I'm not gonna put that on d-way because I listened to how d-way talked about how he had to revamp his parenting style and he pretty much was like when, when zaya started going through her transition and stuff his transition I'm tired of. I'm tired of that, I'm tired of that shit.
Speaker 2:now that boy has a ding-a-ling. He ain't no girl yet, and that's what pisses me off. If y'all want to do that and want to start calling him Zia, cut it off. Show me how bad you is, Dwight. Show me how bad y'all is.
Speaker 1:We'll come back to that because I got some for you on that, right, but he's crazy. But what the way it was? He was like when, when it came to me with this, I'm like, fuck me, like he had to go learn, and and then say, hey, despite how I feel about this, I'm going to be here to support my child, because I love my child and I want to be the best parent for that child.
Speaker 1:Now, however, you choose to deal with stuff like that. I'm not going to tell anybody how to deal with that, because if my daughter comes to me and tell me, daddy, I'm a boy, I'm not going to sit here and tell you that my podcast answer is my answer to my child the day that I find out. But I want to work to a place, to where you are happy with who you are and you still feel the love from your father, even if I disagree with your lifestyle. Hey, you put me a little dab in there. I, yeah, you know I I left the. You know I was doing a solo show. I thought doing a solo show. I thought I was doing a solo show. I'm like, oh golly, I don't want to break a look at her. But back to. I told you to put a pen in.
Speaker 1:Oh, About him cutting it off. I was listening to somebody talk about that shit, right, and they said so you want me to accept somebody as trans? Well, I want you to accept you. Remember Rachel Dolezal, the white chick who said she was like black, did the NAACP shit. You know what I mean? Like she was wearing like nigga hair and like yeah, yeah, I know exactly who you're talking about.
Speaker 2:Yeah, here you go.
Speaker 1:And they was like, okay, so she's black. They were like, no, she's not black. And they're like well then, that that trans person isn't their transgender, they are what they were born. As if you're gonna say that she's not black because I look at her, she's not black, she's just trying to be black.
Speaker 1:She was the one that was wearing them little wigs and all that dumb shit, yeah and so then the spin-off, the spin back was like well, if, how can you respect the trans phobic, the detroit, not transphobic the transsexual person, but you can't respect the transracial person. So now we're picking and choosing what trans we want to respect.
Speaker 2:It's real oh, that's real. That's definitely real. Because again I feel like and I and this gonna. Again I feel like and this is going to sound crazy, but I feel like so many people want so many like, and maybe it's just me, it's so many people that want a bunch of black guys, black men, to be trans, and maybe I don't want to come off as shitty when I say that, but it's like. If everybody, if we can't have that same standard for everything and everybody, I don't feel this. And if he, like I said, if he want to be considered trans and or if he, if she want to be considered as she, you don't need to have that body part, no more. You got enough money. Your mama got it, your stepmama, your daddy, y'all got enough bread. If y'all want to do the full thing, stop playing. If you want to go paint your nails and you want to do all that to make him feel better, dwight or Dwayne, cut yours off too Like I mean again.
Speaker 1:I mean, I'm just being real.
Speaker 2:Everybody want to play like it's okay until it's really put in your face and you really got to do what you asking and saying. You want everybody to be okay with you. Want us to call this man what is it Zia, instead of his real name, hey if you want to?
Speaker 1:damn, bro, I was trying to think of a girl name for you, but your sister's got them Vanessa. If you want to cut your dick off and be vanessa, I'm gonna call you vanessa and you still gonna be my friend. But you know what I won't do. I won't cut my dick off and go by, christina you know what I mean like, like and so, and that's where I land with it.
Speaker 1:Hey, dog, you do what you want to do. Grown-ass person and again grown person. I ain't talking about no kids, grown-ass person and I again grown person. I ain't talking about no kids, grown-ass person, and I don't even know what grown means. Because we just talked about Thug Head being fucked up because of his upbringing and now, in his 30s, realizing that his head's fucked up. But you, grown-ass, if you want to do something, you do it. But I can sit here and say, hey, I won't do that. I don't hate you for it.
Speaker 2:But again, if you but if you want to go, is that if you want to go into that classification as a trans and you want us to treat you like a trans instead of a man, then stand on what you're saying. That's all we say. Like, don't try and get mad at us because we're still calling him him instead of her, because that's just you know. Because if you don't give a damn about no pronoun, what you are is what you are.
Speaker 1:The shit between your legs in our society. Right, let me stop being PC. Hey, we pick and choose. We call you him or her based on what you got between your legs. That's it, that's all.
Speaker 2:I'm saying, that's all.
Speaker 1:I'm saying, that's all I'm saying, nobody's against. I don't think we're against people changing themselves. Now, if you change, if you go from man to woman because I'm single now, he's not single, I'm single, I'm not hitting these streets. Maybe if you was born with a pecker, just let me know before. Now my choice is going to be move in a different direction. But let me move in that different direction. Don't let me end up in some AI pussy Nah, that's a joke. But don't let me end up in some.
Speaker 1:I don't want to have sex with a trans and find out after the fact. And I think that if I don't think that's transphobic and I think that if you are trans, you owe that to people who do not move that way. Because if I'm into women, which I am, and you are just a woman and I only want women who were born as women, you should allow me the opportunity to fucking disclose, to make that decision, just like if you have an STD in Galilee. I'm not putting trans with STDs, two totally different things. But again, you are legally obligated to tell somebody hey, I have an STD, if not, you will be punished. To tell somebody hey, I have an std, if not, you will be punished.
Speaker 1:And then we talk about consent, just like if I pulled a rub off during sex without your consent, that can be sexual assault, right? I think the same thing should go for, uh, trans people. You should have to express that you are trans before somebody engages in sexual activities, because everybody does not want to play that game and they should not have to play that game unknowingly. Uh, and we're just being fair. And again, if you want to be trans and if you want to fuck trans, I don't care. Yeah, I'm just. Oh, I'm just old school.
Speaker 2:That's it and that's how I look at, like you can do whatever you choose to do. Don't feel like, but don't feel like people should be obligated to do the certain shit that you're asking, because, again, I say the same thing I just said. I feel like if you want to be that or if you want to have those titles that we classify you as what you got between your legs as a heterosexual male, I feel like I'm going to look at you and if I see you got a full facial hair and you wearing, you know, walking around in a skirt and whatever, but I know you got some ding-a-ling down there, you're going to be a man. To me I don't give a damn what your outfit look like. If you got some ding-a-ling down there, you a man and that's what it is and you know, and that's just how I look at it.
Speaker 1:And as we close this out, I'll tell you the thing I hate most about. You're transphobic. No, I don't have a problem with you being trans, I don't. But like I call me and me because they have dicks. After the game, friday right, we walk into the local. You know todd knows people in that place in there. You know I don't be knowing people unless we went to school together. Dude, go. I'm talking to todd because todd beat me. Now he goes. Um, you look like you came here to buy some bills. I looked at him. I said you got a dick.
Speaker 1:He was like yeah, I was like, fuck, I'm buying you a bill for I don't buy bills for dicks. He said I'm going to play the Kung Fu King. After this he was like, oh no, that's good I'm talking about from my mouth. That ain't Kung Fu King, play the comfort camp. After this you were like, oh no, that's good I'm talking about from my mouth. And I said but you have a dick, right, I don't buy drinks for dicks. And I mean, and do I buy drinks for my guys? Absolutely.
Speaker 1:I didn't know this man from a can of paint. He knew todd, you just go, I walk on the ball. You asked me to buy you a bill dog. You could have been the baddest chick in the bar and you're gonna get a a nasty response from me asking me to buy you a beer Dog. You could have been the baddest chick in the bar and you're going to get a nasty response from me asking me to buy you a drink. And you ain't talk to me. We ain't. Hey, hey, hey, hey, dude. That's it, first word. Hey, dude, if you was even into me and you wanted me to buy you a drink because you wanted me to take you home, hey, warm me up. Don't just come in that strong bro, because I promise you come in that strong Like. If you a woman, who I like, I will give you some pushback and still buy you a drink, but you a man, I don't know.
Speaker 1:And I don't want to take you home, because the last thing I want to see is a man grabbing his ankles in my house. I'm just not into that. If you into me and grabbing ankles in your house, shout out to you, I have it, but nigga, don't ask me for no drink. Like bro, I wish you could have been there because your face, I mean because you just would have walked. Imagine walking into a local seeing Dean talk to somebody. Walk in, dab him with the first thing he say to you oh man, look, you came here to buy me a drink and I didn't call him a motherfucker.
Speaker 2:Nah, I mean that would have had me. I don't know, Dean got too many goddamn friends anyway.
Speaker 1:Oh man.
Speaker 2:That's what I told his dad.
Speaker 1:Bro, I don't even like going to the games with Dean. Oh God, Because you was talking about all the kids coming up to him and stuff and the people and I just be there chilling and you know me Trying to watch the game.
Speaker 2:I ain't dapping up, I ain't daffing up, I ain't trying to do all that. I'm trying to watch the game being that's all.
Speaker 1:everybody daffing up give mother gotta come walk up on you, bro. Bro, think about now we in the delay. So people are leaving the game, or you know, some folks going back to their cars to the tailgate, going to the field house, because they, they, they, they, they. Good, over there they can do shit, like you know. I mean. So people just walking by. I mean, dean was having a conversation with one person who was on the track and we were sitting. We were sitting right there on the track but we had, we were sitting down, so we had our backs turned. Uh, they got in turn around, didn't? They weren't talking to me. I wasn't talking to them, yeah, but again, you know that's me yeah, but I'm gonna tell you they got them.
Speaker 2:Dean, he gonna he going to turn around. He's going to make full conversations. He's going to talk for 15, 20 minutes. Dean's going to be ready to move around right after he gets done talking.
Speaker 1:But I tell you for a crew and really for the show, when you talk about building a show, it's important to have people like Dean, because if me, you and Rue tried to build a show, we would only be able to grow it on the internet because, yeah, we suck in public.
Speaker 2:yeah I mean, I'm just not, you don't go in public. No, I don't do all that. Like I go in public but I don't do all that shit. Like I don't really like partying in carterville one, two, I get in too much trouble in the move, I get in too much trouble in the view and it's like certain times I just feel like I prefer to just, you know, move and shake, move and shake. And yeah, I don't like speaking to everybody, especially 90% of the time I'm tuned in when I'm at the game anyway. So it's like I don't want to be in everybody's face. I come in and do one thing watch the game. I want to come watch the game. I don't want to do all that talking, daffing and all this and that I'm going to speak to everybody who you know we got love for, but it ain't going to be no, all day speaking. I'm going to say what's up. Hey, y'all enjoy the game.
Speaker 1:I me a little spot and go post up and I'm here until until 10, 10, 15, when the game you want it. You want some bullshit? Well, I really only go out of cartersville publicly most of the time to interact with people who watch the show I don't even do that.
Speaker 1:Well, hold on hold on, hold on, let me not say interact. I go out so that we can be seen in public places, where we're expected to be, but I don't want to talk to nobody. I let Dean talk to him and, if you acknowledge me, I will speak, except for one person, and I'll tell you that off, mike, because somebody didn't know who I was and I had to address it.
Speaker 2:No, you might as well go.
Speaker 1:No, I'm not going to say that on Mike.
Speaker 2:No, I'm not going gonna say it on mike?
Speaker 1:yeah, you might. No, I'm not gonna say that on mike, it was, you know. It's actually a couple of. It's actually a couple of instances that that I had somebody you know stung before. No, not even I reintroduced myself to to be funny.
Speaker 2:That'd be the problem with me, though, if there's somebody I know, stung before when they act like they don't know me. Oh yeah, bitch, I'm gonna act, all right, yeah I don't like y'all, well, you know.
Speaker 1:You know I'm different. You know, if I don't stun, you don't talk to me in public if we ain't here to go.
Speaker 2:Oh no, yeah, I like when you talk to me and still make me feel nice. No, don't talk to me, make me feel special.
Speaker 1:Don't talk to me you know that's the, though Aisha Curry don't be making stuff feel special when she's on these podcasts and get to talking Aisha Curry's stupid.
Speaker 1:And I don't even care to talk about what she said. I only care about hey, dog, if you, my woman, don't go out in public and embarrass me, it's one thing if you do something that's embarrassing, but don't sit your ass down and get to speaking. Your, your, your talking your point and making me look less than because we got to go home and deal with that. And I'm telling you as a nigga who's like, said shit on podcast and then, like my girl or my wife the same person, just different phase in the relationship right then see something and checks me about, I'm like, hey, bro, don't check out my content. Nigga, it's a show, but that doesn't change how she feels and how I made her feel being on a show. And then, when she tells me that I have to respect it because I want to be with her, yeah, you know what I mean. Like I don't want my girl ever checking me on my content, yeah, but if my content does make you feel some type of way and you choose to consume it which I can't tell you not to I can tell you you shouldn't if you don't feel some type of way about it. But if you're going to choose to consume my content, whether as support or whether to try to catch me up. I'm not accusing anybody of anything. Well, I didn't have to deal with that. So, like I, when me and Cindy were together, I carried myself very differently on a podcast. Mike, because I respect her and in certain conversations that we don't have. Hill, because you're in a relationship, you know what I'm saying. Dean's in a relationship, you know what I mean. Trev's in a relationship, like we don't talk about certain shit up here because out of respect for our partners or y'all's partner. But now bitch, excuse me, me, I was saying bitch just like as a word, not like towards her. But nah, you don't go over here and talk about how I pretty much say I didn't think he was my type and what. I was just friends and I really I thought I was gonna be the one, the one you would.
Speaker 1:Steph kerry, let me you something. That boy in light skin with green eyes and 6'3", he was a winner before he was good at basketball. I promise you I'd have been to the club and the bar with Rue, you know what I mean. I'd have been to clubs and bars that I go to and then I come in with 6'5" and don't get me wrong, I ain't got no ugly friends, but I ain't got no pretty friends either, niggas, just nice looking motherfuckers. You know what I mean. Six Five walk in there, I see how they look at. Six Five Now imagine one inch shorter, new Kung Fu Kenny, light skin with green eyes. Oh, this bitch can shoot from 38.
Speaker 2:Yeah from anywhere.
Speaker 1:Girl, if daddy was in the NBA girl, you was never going to be the one. You was always going to be the one. You're always gonna be the two, or maybe the three or the four or the five, depending on how many kids we have and how far they is in life. Like bro, like what we doing, like she's not a main character in any story, but her own. Now, we're all the main character in our stories, but Steph Curry's the main character in a lot of people's stories. Lebron James is the main character in a lot of niggas' stories. Michael Jordan is the main character in a lot of niggas' stories. Bro, don't nobody care about Aisha Curry, but Aisha and her fucking family. That's the fact, bro, and there's no knock on that, because don't nobody care about us, but our family.
Speaker 1:Yeah that's the fact. But at the same time, bro, I wish you would get out here and say, like damn bro, like I ain't think Terrence going to have to grind and hustle like this. You know what I'm saying. Do the tattoo fire. Shit man, nigga. I thought I was going to be the tattoo. Nigga. Dj, when have you touched a?
Speaker 1:tattoo gun you know what I'm saying. I mean, like, like Aja Curry, what the fuck did you do that you thought was going to make you pop it? Enough to be more pop it than a pretty good, pretty odd shooting ass nigga who took over America's heart no way and got them college at Davis and been having it ever since then Come on bro Nigga, say he the best point guard of all time.
Speaker 1:I should carry you Ain't the best, nothing, but I should carry it all the time. And that's no knock on you, cause most of us aren't the best at something else besides being ourselves. But then for you to come out while Steph is the one to say well, I thought it was going to be me, he just wanted to be a high school basketball coach.
Speaker 2:Wait, that's all he wanted.
Speaker 1:That's all Steph wanted, that's what she said he wanted to be, and I assume that's what his goal. Like when you go to Davidson to play college basketball, you don't think you're going to the NBA.
Speaker 2:But then again, when you step though, that's different. Steph was pulling up 30s as a freshman, back-to-back 30s. So I don't know. I don't know. I feel like he just went to Davidson just because that was the only person that recruited him.
Speaker 1:Well, that's, that was the only person to recruit him. That's what it was. He could have transferred just freshman year, but he stayed solid at Davidson because again he had the daddy who knows. Hey, bro, as long as you keep killing you'll get to leave.
Speaker 2:I'm going to get you in there, don't worry about it. I'll get you in there, don't worry about it. I know a couple folks.
Speaker 1:Damn bro, Anything else you want to talk about.
Speaker 2:No, I'm about to say shit, I got to let them know. I'm about to say that's my bad about today. I'm about to say I had some little family issues and practice and shit going on, but next week we'll be back better than ever. We'll have it lined up. I'll be back on time.
Speaker 1:What are we doing next week? Are we going to be able to get little Terry up here? I'm going to get everything. I'm going to get everything lined up and try and figure some stuff out, if he's open to that and I actually want to talk about it publicly, because I talked about the last show at the open I think that would be good. But also I think that just the fact that we got one side of it saying, hey, I don't want problems, I want peace, if we can settle this beef long as this beef been going on, we're doing the right thing, no matter who watches this shit, because it goes bigger than us just having a podcast.
Speaker 1:It's really like because, man, let me just pop our shit a little bit, bro, niggas fuck with us doing this shit.
Speaker 1:And it ain't really shit, it's just us coming up here talking about shit. You know, I mean like, and we, we put topics up here to guide it, so we ain't just sitting here with nothing to say. But like we don't really. I mean the way we spun off talking about trans shit off of dwight, howard and mellow, going to the Hall of Fame like we took it to have conversations. But more importantly, we're about giving back to our community in the way that we want to and not the Dean way. That's not a shot at Dean. We just ain't gonna be out there touching the people like that. Like I'm sorry you, kung fu kid, I got things I'd rather do with my time, I got things I'd rather do with my time. But to be able to just, if we can like, create a place where people can come up here and talk and get their shit off, and then after that we get to resolutions, bro, like we doing God's work and I ain't even making it religious, bro, this is just real shit.
Speaker 2:That's real, though. That's real, but we can. I'm gonna definitely try and get him up here next week and see what I can line up, but before I want to do that, then we're going to see something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we can talk off mic, but I will also say that I appreciate you for showing up because, oh God, I was ready to cuss everybody out today.
Speaker 2:Don't talk off the camera. No, we're going to talk.
Speaker 1:And I will tell you when we talk. I'll talk first, then I'm going to give you the floor. Okay for sure, it is hey, y'all, it's over, because I actually want to say what the fuck I want to say.
Speaker 2:It was fast, we out. Baby. See y'all next week. Let's get it. Hold on, hold on.
Speaker 1:I want to get this black kid. Yeah, but I'm not. We still on air. Oh, we still laughing. Yeah, I'm back here trying to, trying to navigate the computer from back here and you know I I left my glass at trouble house like hey steve and we still going.