Village Vets

When Pretty Isn’t Enough: Standards, Stability, And The Weight Of Being “Him”

Village Vets

The night starts with Selena on the speakers and spirals into a sharp debate about superstar math: how we measure legacy across cultures, what “global” meant then versus now, and why we keep forcing today’s names onto yesterday’s arcs. That light, messy, very human argument unlocks the real show—homecoming stories turned social experiments—where a burger line becomes a lesson on boundaries, generosity, and the politics of “brotherhood” when the grill runs low.

From there we face a harder mirror: a “worst day” thought experiment ties into a local scare at the airport and an honest reckoning with mental health, safety, and community responsibility. We ask: where’s the line between compassion and consequence? How do we step in before the state does? Instead of preaching therapy as a cure-all, we get practical—routines, procrastination, diet, environment, and the people you let orbit your life. Balance isn’t a hashtag here; it’s maintenance.

The conversation hits home—literally—when we unpack leadership in relationships. If the money flips, does respect flip too? We argue that leadership is character-led, not cash-led, and that day-to-day management can shift without losing vision. Then comes the Ruby Rose question: “How am I single when I look like this?” We answer with love and honesty. Beauty is common; alignment is rare. Looks open doors; values keep you inside. Careers, travel appetites, non-negotiables, and respect decide who lasts.

We close by pulling back the curtain on platforms, censorship, and what authenticity costs when we go live. Even the on-air tension becomes part of the lesson: boundaries, repair, and keeping the team intact when the jokes cut close. If you’re here for culture, relationships, and the unscripted parts of being human, you’ll feel at home. Hit play, then tell us: where do you draw the line—on family, on love, on your “worst day”? Subscribe, share with a friend, and drop your take in the comments. Your story might be the compass someone else needs.

SPEAKER_06:

I probably shouldn't ask you that, huh?

SPEAKER_04:

I don't know what that means.

SPEAKER_06:

I think it's what you need.

SPEAKER_04:

No, you don't. I don't know what she was saying.

SPEAKER_01:

Why are you playing?

SPEAKER_04:

I still can think of you. When the world be dreaming, you stay up and think of me. So I'm gonna ask you now, because again, since you're gonna start the show off, why in the fuck? Excuse me, why in the world was that why was that the song you were playing when I walked in today?

SPEAKER_06:

I was trying to create some blissful energy before the show. I was just in the child. I'm an RB guy when I get ready to do shows.

SPEAKER_04:

I ain't understand that. That's what I like. I was trying to put two and two together. It's like, now what he got going on? Then I ain't really ever heard nobody just listening to Selena.

SPEAKER_06:

I saw the movie the other week, yeah, and then you know it ended with this song, so it'd have been kind of stuck in my head, and I've just been listening to it on and off. Oh okay. I've been thinking about listening to Selena and really kind of getting into that bag. I think that's an added dimension that I could add to my repertoire when I'm out here in these streets trying to uh entertain people.

SPEAKER_04:

You know, it's it's a thing behind they say Selena was that thing back in the day. Like they said it. I've I've never really been a fan of uh Selena, but they said she was our uh Nicki Minaj uh Mexico, all over taking over the whole world. Who said that ignorant shit? A bunch of folks said a lot of them said though. I hope y'all don't listen to them. Well, I mean, was she not a superstar before what happened happened?

SPEAKER_06:

Uh she was headed that she won a Grammy already, so that's why I'm saying if she not like the Nikki Minaj, I mean she was more like a pop star. Isn't I mean I mean, yeah, I get what you're saying, but you know, it's a little bit different, man. How I would just say she's more like just even her her her her journey.

SPEAKER_04:

Nobody tell you to move that always gets starting and it's starting early. I know it, man. But uh but now back to what you said. So you saying it, so who would you compare it to then of today's time?

unknown:

I don't know, man.

SPEAKER_04:

I'm gonna tell you her living it all the way out. She uh she a swifty, she right there beside behind Swift or right there beside she might she in front of Taylor Swift, but I'm just saying, like, especially in that time, god almighty, you had everybody.

SPEAKER_06:

I mean, she did, and you can kind of see it like in in her passing because you know we all grew up watching that movie, and real quick, this is no disrespect to Selena or her family, a little bit to J Lo.

SPEAKER_04:

Hey, that movie is actually pretty trash, it's god awful, terrible. It's god awful, but it's like I say, it's it's really it's just them different. You've seen that she's a classic. Did she J Lo talented though? She was talented, shit now. You can't play, she's hot. I mean, saying and dance saying and dancing. That's I mean, dancing, yeah. Sanging and dancing, dancing. You can't take nothing from her. She did, she held a note, boy. I give something to her though. She held a note, so again, you can't take nothing from me. Dean holds notes, uh she held a note. Like I said, I'm not bragging Dean. I listen, uh, I listened to Dean saying his favorite Tennessee, uh Tennessee whiskey the other day. It was terrible. Oh, god awful. I wanted to hear that, but no, but no, but seriously, though, going back to where I was, who do you compare to? I don't know, man. You gotta you just said she wasn't Nikki Minaj. You didn't think she wasn't Taylor Swift.

SPEAKER_06:

I don't know, man. MTV RIP. RIP oh dang, that was messed up. I wouldn't make it a dead joke by saying MTV because MTV just died. RP. That's awful. No, but now I would look at her from that, like possibly being that like uh Taylor Swift type, Beyonce type, like global superstar, just because if you you you think about just the amount of revenue she's driving out of Mexico, and then you do the crossover into America, and now you got all of North America singing bitty bitty bumba.

SPEAKER_04:

For you to say not Nicky Minaj, but then the jump and say Beyonce in the sweep, like out of yeah, I was saying I was I'm saying she'd be bigger than Nicki Minaj.

SPEAKER_06:

Even in that time, though, she you know she died early. Um I think she would have built up to being one of those mega stars. Sure. Cause I mean, think about it. You got like the Whitney Houstons of the world. I'm not saying she's as talented as Whitney, I'm just talking about we had mega superstars back there. Back then, Michael Jackson, Prince, yeah, Cher Madonna. Was Cher considered a superstar? I I think so, yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

You bang her. I'm trying to think of what I was Cher song. That that was like that. Do you believe in love after love? Yeah, that's my shit. That's the only thing I really know from Cher. Like, that's it for real. You banger. I mean, she's from El Centro. She back in that time. Like, if I was if I grew up in the 80s, talking probably ain't talking about tomorrow. I don't know about that.

SPEAKER_06:

She old, old, right? Yeah, she's 79.

SPEAKER_04:

Probably not.

SPEAKER_06:

Oh, she got you know, Sonny and Cher, you know. They was they was rhied against Michael Michael Jackson, though. Never mind, that's the Osmond. I'm tripping. Oh well, who that was Sunny and Share, ain't it? Sunny and Share, that was a group.

SPEAKER_04:

No, I don't I think I heard it.

SPEAKER_05:

They've felt over a hundred million records.

SPEAKER_04:

I think I heard it. What song they got? I got you, babe. I got you, babe. Okay, I I got you. I got you. I got you. Who was you listening to Sonny Show with your daddy? I don't know. I better say I really don't know why even I think I don't know. I probably done seen it in a movie or something. You know, I got you, babe.

SPEAKER_06:

You know, it's good that we don't have a music podcast, it would be terrible.

SPEAKER_04:

No, uh why my shit would be rocking. I know all the I know all music, I just don't know alternative music for real.

SPEAKER_06:

Like, oh, like I mean, but you have an alternative lifestyle, so I think you'd be aligned with alternative music. I don't really, I'm kind of like set in stone.

SPEAKER_04:

That's just like one way. Uh nothing alternative. You don't even have a community. No, none. Absolutely not. Sending like Rooster saying he's coming in. But yeah, no, you know, it's the same link every week.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, let me change my tone now, because you know how he gets really when I start DNA, he you know, he he he uh no, he'll threaten to log off.

SPEAKER_04:

But I know, but no, I'm still I was trying to just I had seen and I was questioning though that whole motive of you listening to Selena when I walked in, because it just didn't make sense to me.

SPEAKER_06:

Maybe I was uh thinking of somebody, dreaming of somebody last night. Drop a name.

SPEAKER_01:

No, maybe tomorrow I'll be hosing her tag because there's no initials on well, ain't no initials. You just said I read the B.

SPEAKER_04:

You just said it would be somebody. Drop a name on it.

SPEAKER_06:

Ain't no name. I was just I was just saying as a hypothetical. This is a podcast. I gotta like tell lives to think people make people think I'm telling the truth, not necessarily, or I could tell the truth and then say I'm lying about it. There you go, and that's my whole point, and then you just create a bunch of confusion, and then you look back at your life and you go, Boy, I've created so much confusion for so many people, and that's okay, and that's okay, that's all right.

SPEAKER_04:

Hell, how was your weekend, man? Man, it was solid, bro. Um, which just chill acts this whole week. Um I end up having I had the little one all week.

SPEAKER_06:

Um like you co-parenting.

SPEAKER_04:

No, no, no, no, no. BM, she was down bad this weekend, and she was put up. She had to get herself together, and so I was more so just locked in with kids moving around, trying to make sure everything was together and trying to make sure Candace Clean and Service Steel number one in the world at all times. Do you hear me? But yeah, no, so it's that's kind of how it went. And shit, Friday watched those mighty hurricanes do work.

SPEAKER_06:

Oh, who did they play? Cedartown. Cedartown, okay. They won.

SPEAKER_04:

Whooped. Whooped, won when we I think it was like 52-nother.

SPEAKER_06:

Oh Catertown's a bad football operation.

SPEAKER_04:

Well, this this season they rebuilding. They are rebuilding like heavy, but they are they're a solid program for sure. And I mean, like the coach, I think the coach, this is he this is his first year back over there or at Cedar Sound School. So he rebuilding, they're getting everything back together. You remember they just went to the uh they went just went to the dome, I think, either last year or the year before. Um making sure you know I don't give a fuck. Oh, okay. Well, yeah, they just went to the dome. They solid though, good program, solid program. But Carter's gonna handle business, did our thing, came on out with a dub. What about you, man? Tell me something. Homecoming weekend, tell me something.

SPEAKER_06:

Golly, where do we begin? Homecoming, man. It was it was a busy weekend. Yeah, spent Friday running around all day, grabbing all the stuff we needed uh for homecoming. Uh, shout out to Spellhouse Homecoming, great time. Uh, you know, I had to get the food and stuff. We started doing some cooking Saturday night, uh, cracked a couple of beers. Uh played some the guys played some pong. I you know, I was off the pong table, I was on the grill. Uh they went out. I stayed at the crib. I don't try and go no clubs already, like I'm on one. So you didn't go out? No.

SPEAKER_08:

Fuck not. It's home.

SPEAKER_06:

Well, I had something to do um Saturday morning that I ended up oversleeping for, but so you missed it and still didn't go out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Worst of yeah, yeah, yeah. Worst of both worlds.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, so I mean, what was the point?

SPEAKER_06:

Well, I know how those club parties are at homecoming, and it's not a great club experience. But explain, but there's a bunch of people, the party promoters be on that college bullshit, and you in there fake dapping, hugging, and it's not really lit, you know what I'm saying? And for me, it was my partner's 10-year reunion, it wasn't mine. Uh, it wasn't my reunion, so it wasn't even like I wouldn't even I didn't know all the people and stuff that's gonna primarily be there and stuff. So I wouldn't have fun either way. You didn't see me say what's up to you. Oh no, I ain't hear nothing. I heard you already late here, though, and log in playing like playing the game, ain't even looking into the camera.

SPEAKER_07:

He looking at the damn TV. Man, I'm gambling, man. I need the rent to score nine points in the second half.

SPEAKER_06:

So you know it don't change, it don't change what he does if you check the box score versus watching it though. Hey hey, don't tell me what to do when I'm gambling.

SPEAKER_07:

I like to watch. Do you need to call the hotline?

SPEAKER_06:

I don't do this often. You know, I might have to bring this segment to the show because I was talking about this during homecoming weekend with Parlay Pete. What bets exist? Like, what bet did your friend make when you stink? Hey, maybe he should call the hotline.

SPEAKER_04:

I mean, personally, me no bet uh is too big if you feel like you can hit it. That's just my opinion. Like, if you if you chase, I mean if you chasing it again, that's a whole different conversation. If you start chasing the win, that's different.

SPEAKER_06:

If you feel like how I felt when Terrence Crawford fought Spence, see you talking about a dollar figure. What if I told you I was gambling on like preseason WNBA basketball? Would you be concerned about me having a gambling problem?

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, yeah, because again, yeah, I mean, kinda kind of, but again, that's that's kind of yeah, for sure. Hell yeah, I ain't nowhere.

SPEAKER_07:

I got a homeboy that's so deep in it, he'll play kino, and if he ain't hit on kino, he'll go straight to the ding machine and then he'll keep rolling. Professional gambler.

SPEAKER_04:

I know that boy you're talking about. He probably should call the hotline.

SPEAKER_07:

No, this is this what he do. This this is what he do for uh for milk and bread, baby. You know what I mean? Keep the pole man fed, he just ain't poor.

SPEAKER_04:

He said bread and meat, he's the whole house.

SPEAKER_06:

Uh, but no, homecoming was fun. We had this is our first year having our own tent. It was super dope having our own tent because we, you know, we had our own vibes, everything over there. You know, shout out to mama boink holding it down. She really helped out, uh, keeping the keeping the riff raff away. Because golly boy, them damn them damn them damn flies see some food and they just get to flocking.

SPEAKER_04:

That's real.

SPEAKER_06:

And you gotta just shoe them away all day, even the male flies. You know, a grown man, speech. Yeah, you know, a grown man came and asked me for a burger, yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

Well, I mean again, AC now. This black, we black brothers. We have y'all more house men. You gotta cut, you gotta start picking and choosing on that shit too now. If y'all brothers and if he a more house man, I don't I don't know that nigga from a can of paint. Who cares?

SPEAKER_06:

He a Morehouse man. I don't even know if he was a Morehouse man because he may he may have been working. Well, he was showing love still, but he's getting paid. He's working he can go to one of them other food stands and buy some food because I we we needed food for everybody, bro. That is I didn't we didn't even have no burgers left over at the end of the day.

SPEAKER_04:

Y'all ate it. I bet y'all ate good though. Yes, so again, it don't matter. That's still your brother. That's that ain't my brother. I don't know that he could your morehouse. Well, if he at the if he at the Morehouse program, I guarantee he gotta have something to do with Morehouse. He may be working, he may got some friends there doing something. He he's showing some type of love toward Morehouse. You could have gave dog a birth. Dog, there's a nigga. Y'all supposed to be locked in. Stop, D. You are dumb as fuck.

SPEAKER_06:

You know, you know, you know, you know, them people, them people didn't dare come rush my campus. What's that? You know, them people didn't delcome. Oh, they know about I ain't nobody paying his ass, no money. They show love, man. Yeah, we're gonna you know what we showed love to a lot of people. We shared liquor food, drinks, all that with a bunch of people who I didn't know, and and and I and that was nice, but that man who came and asked me for a burger, he asked the wrong person. He should have just asked somebody else, and he probably would have got one.

SPEAKER_04:

You a serious ass. I turned women away. I guarantee you didn't. Well, no, no, never mind. I guarantee you, yeah. They look me look too.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, I yeah, I turned away some some some nice shit too.

SPEAKER_04:

I guarantee you didn't, and I want to see the nice shit you're talking about.

SPEAKER_06:

Well, I didn't know I didn't talk to her because she came over there and I said, Who do you know? And she got mad and went off.

SPEAKER_04:

So again, she you didn't kick her off, you just asked her uh question real aggressive, and she just left. So again, that's different. Ram off, that's different.

SPEAKER_09:

You didn't tell her she didn't talk to her like that.

SPEAKER_04:

No, I'm saying she would have stayed.

SPEAKER_07:

He got he got real player. No, no, bro.

SPEAKER_06:

Nah, nah, nah. It it was beyond that point in the day because it it had been too many uh buzzards over there just just just eating and shit. I was pissed off. It it didn't matter. It wasn't no little pretty shit, and she was just some little pretty shit, and she was like still in school, so like look, girl, you too young for me. I hell you ain't gonna be.

SPEAKER_04:

But we done talk, we just talked about that same thing you just said. Sometimes them bug them buzzers bring uh rabbits and and pretty butterflies and all the eggs and stuff to come with, you know. Everything you know how many butterflies was out there. I get it, but sometimes they they they hang with the buzzers, and you gotta get the buzzer first. The buzzer gonna come every time. That's the one that's kicking it. The buzzer gonna be funny.

SPEAKER_07:

You don't know who that little girl knew.

SPEAKER_04:

Come on, man, that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_06:

Well, a spare burger, man. Here's the thing her friends told me who they knew, and I said, Hey, y'all good.

SPEAKER_04:

Go ahead and eat, but you need to quit doing because again, no, hell I don't. You do, bro, because that's some bullshit now. That's some bullshit. Now you know that is them niggas ain't well.

SPEAKER_07:

You the only one regulating the food like this.

SPEAKER_06:

No, I wasn't the only one regulating the food like that. He said them niggas didn't pay.

SPEAKER_04:

You need to cut that shit out, man. Nasty. Well, what was I finished up?

SPEAKER_06:

I was just I haven't paid yet. I got you though, boy.

SPEAKER_04:

What was your Sunday like? I was oh Saturday, excuse me. That was Saturday.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, Saturday.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, you was wide open. Man, funny Sam's nice that motherfucker. Uh, but nah, uh then Sunday. Yeah, we watched football all day at uh Pies Crib. Uh we went out, watched the Falcons get beat, and then um uh I came home and now we're here.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, it is. Well, two days later. We're a day late. I ain't do shit yesterday. Oh, okay. Waiting on y'all to do a show. Nasty, talk about the land of the gold and sunshine.

SPEAKER_07:

Oh man, we had a blast. I um I got down there a little late, so I missed like the pep rally, but I called like gonna do a pep rally, folks wrong, man. Bro, everybody go to the pep rally on Friday. Hey man, y'all do it one way, we do it another. Okay, y'all do it one way, we do it another.

SPEAKER_06:

So I yeah, y'all go to the pep rally with the pom poms.

SPEAKER_07:

Man, Jeezy performed at our pep rally.

SPEAKER_04:

I'm just saying, Luci was a child, right?

SPEAKER_06:

I don't know.

SPEAKER_04:

I think I'm an alum, I don't care about that child. Okay, Jesus. What's did you make you said you didn't make it for that?

SPEAKER_07:

It's the pep rally, yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, no, that that's just lit. Like, I I I just don't the only official on-campus event I go to is is tailgate. I got you. I walk around spelling on Friday and then go.

SPEAKER_07:

We don't tailgate on campus, so we do the pet rally on campus.

SPEAKER_06:

Oh, that's right.

SPEAKER_07:

We play the NFL stadium. Y'all don't pack it. Boy, let me tell you. I I think that's a lie. There were so many folks that tailgate. Goodness gracious. So Friday, I got uh a little late, so I had Mr. Pet Rally. I um I went out with some of my boys. We we hit a little club and then we hit a set, a little house party. Saturday, I was get I was gonna get up for the parade. I was a little hungover.

SPEAKER_04:

You are old, but you infamous for who goes to a parade though. You infamous for going to a house party, boy. You crazy.

SPEAKER_07:

Hey look, it it's it's it's for my from my for my generation though, you know what I mean? Um but yeah, I couldn't make the parade, so I I got drinking. We all we went to the campus, I showed her some stuff, and then I missed the first part of the tailgate. The second part was that uh the sound stadium. The sound is the um minor league team in Nashville. Absolutely man, let me tell you, do that shit area. I think it's some cat named Black Rob that that hosted it. Like, whoa, man, like whoa. I know you talking about your club experience and how it don't be fun in the club. Man, this shit was off the chain. Everybody that was somebody that went to state was there, and I'm talking about the views were off the meat rack. I need to shut them. I can't talk like I want to talk. Was Anthony though? Why you can't talk like you want to, Nasty? Because I'm because I'm a risk, I'm a respectable uh young man, he under surveillance.

SPEAKER_06:

I get it, I get y'all, y'all be on the surveillance. Y'all have to speak in code and shit. Y'all just can't come on here and speak for you was just talking in code. What the hell are you talking about?

SPEAKER_04:

No, I wasn't yes, you was. No, you just get it because you didn't open up, you didn't say exactly what you was trying to say. You talking about some them buzzles and all that, talking about some flying over.

SPEAKER_06:

You should oh you're saying the riff raff, the niggas and the women who just came over there trying to eat.

SPEAKER_04:

See eating that's what you should have said, but you didn't say that. You said the flies and all that.

SPEAKER_06:

Everybody knows what I mean.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, yeah, but go ahead.

SPEAKER_07:

What'd you say in that station?

SPEAKER_04:

You know, tell us about I was there.

SPEAKER_07:

I was there till probably about 11. I think that ended about 11, 12, but by far the best event that I went to this weekend. Then I went with some of the uh kicked it with some kappa and some sigmas for a minute. Some lodge in there. Some lodge wasn't there, but um it was some other cats, and uh I seen little Kenny and all them boys. And what about Big J Big J wasn't in town, he wasn't in town. So um we went to a little low bar, and then I I said I'm gonna do something on my own. I went downtown and I hit Prentice Alley. So if you know, you know.

SPEAKER_04:

So you still move real good through that uh through that state, like you know something nasty.

SPEAKER_07:

I'm still official.

SPEAKER_04:

I thought I lost a little credibility. So cash will treat you good.

SPEAKER_07:

Yeah, niggas ain't forgotten, niggas ain't forgot what I used to do.

SPEAKER_08:

That is, that is that is nasty.

SPEAKER_07:

Hey, you didn't run the streets as hard as I did when you was in college. Oh, that's fine. I'm okay with that.

SPEAKER_06:

Uh uh, did you see Ebony homecoming? Hey, I did not, everybody was there. If you ever see a homecoming tell I asked about her, I'm not doing that.

SPEAKER_07:

Why not do you know what you did? Tell the world, tell the world, badass.

SPEAKER_06:

Since you don't look nothing back, or about that girl who left all that uh that sand in my tub. You know, I know all about that monkey shit.

SPEAKER_04:

No, but say no, you don't even need to speak to her. I'm still pissed off about that. I'm still tight by that.

SPEAKER_07:

I didn't know, I didn't treat her like nothing. Oh, yes, you did. Yeah, you didn't never been out there before.

SPEAKER_04:

Ain't never been to San Diego. See, we ain't never been to San Diego. She just didn't know what was going on. Shut up, Ebony Man. Matter of fact, you the victim, she the victim. That's it.

SPEAKER_06:

That's it. That's it. Hey, uh, speaking of victim, real quick, uh, got a question uh for you to think about, Todd, and for you, VJ, and for all of you out in the comments. Hey, leave a comment and answer this question. Imagine being judged by your worst day, and when you think about that, is the question is what did you do on your worst day, and how would you feel if people judged you by that?

SPEAKER_07:

I didn't take uh AK-47 or whatever he took to the um to the airport, walked around with it while it's in the car to see how many people was in there. And you know, I I just didn't. I know I I did act act outside my body, but you know, I never thought about getting in the car and driving to Atlanta with a gun.

SPEAKER_06:

You know, I told you to just think about it. But thank you to thank you for bringing us to our uh our our next topic, I guess.

SPEAKER_07:

My bad.

SPEAKER_06:

You know, pre-production started eight.

SPEAKER_04:

But no, but no, what you go ahead because that's still hard though. How you spun that off.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go, yeah, yeah. What so what happened? What you what are you talking about, Todd? I'm I'm lost.

SPEAKER_07:

Um uh white guy from Cartersville. Call his name, Dean. I'm not gonna call his name because I don't I I know his people, so I ain't gonna call his name. Y'all can call his name, but out of respect for them. No, out of respect for them, because I do got it's a respect level that I have for them. I ain't gonna call his name. And I um from what I understand, he has had many mental episodes as of late. Um, I still think his actions, you taking a gun to Atlanta and trying to shoot up an airport, or I mean, it was in the car, so he he could have just took it, he could have just took it with him. I think he was kind of coming back to his senses a little bit about the decision that he made, but you know, his family had already made the car. Um sound like you're caping for somebody you know.

SPEAKER_06:

I'm not like you wouldn't have this energy if you didn't know the family.

SPEAKER_04:

I wanted to ask a question though before you even before you go that far though. Let me Nas before you before you even go that far, let me ask you. So so with the situation, did they say because I I've heard I've read all the little backstory, but I mean, did they say he took the did they did he take the gun out the car, bring it in? So the gun stayed in the car. Yeah, so did he break the law? Personally, that's what I'm asking. I mean that's that's one of the only reasons why I kind of why I I'll say his name because again, being real, I've heard he had I've I've heard he had a bunch of look oh excuse me, a bunch of little mental issues that was going on the last couple of you know, last couple of summers, I guess, or whatever. But what he did is that technically a crime.

SPEAKER_07:

And that's a that's a great question, V. And I don't know. I'm I'm thinking they judge it like kind of how they judge the school zone, so it's a certain proximity that you can have a gun, and just a second, just a second, keep going, but if if like you can maybe able to have a handgun, but not that type of gun, right?

SPEAKER_04:

So I mean is considered that that is, I think that's considered like a hand pistol, right? Or I mean oh no, okay. I was I thought that was the one if you just get it extended and all that little extra. That's when it comes with the extra technicalities or whatever. Nah, I'm pretty sure that I'm pretty sure that with whatever the family told him, it's gonna be because they did the family did call in.

SPEAKER_07:

The threat of and they say he live streamed it where he said he was gonna shoot up the airport, and then uh the the assault rifle in the car.

SPEAKER_06:

I don't like I don't know what he's gonna be charged with, and and maybe I don't I don't know if Bartow news have reported that yet, but yeah, so that's kind of where the things where it's like that's a slippery slope for me because again, like I said, it's like nah if you go on live and you say you're gonna and you make the threat and then you have the you have the means to fuck carry through with that threat, you can be charged for something.

SPEAKER_04:

Who's seen it though? Who seen that?

SPEAKER_06:

But it was on live, nigga.

SPEAKER_04:

Who seen the live stream? If it was on live, then that means it's still on live. If it's not on there now, or I mean, excuse me, if it wasn't on there where people can say they actually seen it, other than the family, that's just no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_06:

Like, if if if you are if you are texting us saying that you are gonna commit something like crazy crime and it gets intercepted before you commit the crime, you're still gonna be charged for conspiracy.

SPEAKER_04:

No, no, no, because again, I'm not saying that. I'm saying if he's Dean said it went, he was on live. What I'm saying is, did he really technically go live? Because they said his family said he was on live. Did he, if he's on live, then he his video will still be up there or it wouldn't have been. So what I'm saying, if it hasn't been confirmed that he went live with him driving with a with an assault rifle in his car, is that a crime?

SPEAKER_06:

Well, right now we don't know because that's my point. We don't have the confirmation, but my my bigger concern has nothing to do with the legality of it. It's this person does not, it's it's showing has shown traits that they don't need to be around society right now. Why? The mental is speaking to the mental episodes, right? If you're having mental episodes and you drive to the airport with a high powered rifle. If you drive to the airport with a high powered rifle and you're not picking someone up or flying out of the airport, that's suspect. Just period. Why are you going to the airport? So that's that's so you throw in the mental episodes that again it's come from the family, so I'm comfortable taking it as a fact. You tie that to somebody who drove 45 minutes to an hour to the airport with a gun and he wasn't catching no flight. That person probably doesn't need to be around people right now. They need to be in a place to where they're secure where they're being taken care of. I'm not saying you need to be in a facility, you might just need to be at home. You know what I'm saying? Like watched by a family member. But I don't think that's a person right now who needs I don't think he needs to be in prison or jail. I don't think that person, but also I don't think that that person needs to be left to their own devices because somebody who displays those characteristics are are showing that they're not somebody who is best for mainstream everyday society right now. That person appears to pose a threat. Right?

SPEAKER_04:

Right. I mean, oh you saying right, but again, I can't say right or wrong because again, we're doing a bunch of speculating. We again, like Dean just said, none nothing has been confirmed. Everything that we done said, dog, he did drive to the airport, he did have again again. I'm not saying I'm not saying what he said the threat he was gonna make was you know right or wrong. What I am saying is if we haven't got none of this confirmed that this dude done this, that he drove down there purposely to do harm to anybody in that uh airport, other than the family saying that he just drove. Because again, we don't even know if he was taking a flight, we don't know if he was leak leaving, we don't know if he was we don't know what he was doing.

SPEAKER_06:

It's well if he was taking a flight, well, his family wouldn't have called, you know. I mean, you gotta understand his family called out of concern, so like they wouldn't have they wouldn't have called it in and reported it if there was just absolutely no reason to be concerned, bro.

SPEAKER_07:

We can't say that what'd you say, and he and he lied. So even when the cops approached him, the cop asked, How did you get here? He said somebody dropped him off, knowing all the while he had his truck outside, you know what I mean. And you gotta think about Hartsville, Atlanta. Man, if somebody parked like that, everybody's hot because normally they don't let you really get over there for 15 to 20 seconds. That's like you gotta throw your shit in the car and then you gotta go.

SPEAKER_04:

That's a fact for a car to be parked in in that position where the ass was kind of like catacona, and it was like nah man, it's that's that's why I said that's why I'm asking, I'm asking general questions because again, I didn't hear all that. I just heard that he went in the airport. Was they said he had a gun on him, his wife, his family, or it's not wife, his family was the one who called and said that he was trying to do harm on uh somebody in uh or everybody in Hartsfield. But again, I didn't I haven't heard no facts on nothing.

SPEAKER_06:

I'm hearing a bunch of speculations and until can't we can't really I'm gonna go ahead and tell y'all if y'all are for some odd reason apprehender in an airport and they go to y'all's vehicle and it's parked out front, and you even if it's in the parking deck and y'all have a high-powered rifle in your airport, I mean in your in your car. I'm having a conversation with the ladies in your life and your mama, you know what I'm saying? Hey, I'm worried about my friend. I'm I'm gonna talk to you, but like you a grown man, and you you may or may not listen to me. But like going past you and going to people who matter in your life, like again, damn going to jail, right? You even just putting yourself in that situation, like what bro, what are you doing? Right, like that, like that just doesn't make sense. I get it. Hey, you live in Cartersville.

SPEAKER_04:

Definitely get it though. I definitely get it, but bro, I'm gonna tell you, mental health is real. So, again, it's like you say, you don't never know what he got going on, you don't never know what and that's why I'm not just talking to you or Dean, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_06:

I'm talking to your lady, I'm talking to your mama because you you need more help than you can help yourself with. That's you need people to help help out. So, how do we get you to the place to where people can help you? Because I'd much rather you volunteer yourself to get help from people than the government tell you where you gotta go and get help.

SPEAKER_04:

So, I mean, but that also feel like do you feel with him being a man or him being like that, do you feel that and again, I don't even want to say on him no more because again, we can't speak to him, but just on that whole mental health aspect, do you feel like that's something that me and bottle in thinking that they can prevent it from like they can beat it themselves, or is that something that just I mean, I think there's two different things here, right?

SPEAKER_06:

Like when again, not talking about this specific person, but like speaking to a situation like that, it it sounds like something that is more than just a nigga that's stressed, depressed, right? Like you're dealing with real deal personality type stuff, some of the stuff that we're gonna get into in the Gucci Man conversation about how he'd have his schizophrenic episodes and stuff, right? But again, not putting a diagnosis on somebody that I don't know who and I'm not qualified to do. But when you start speaking about like a mental health thing that's deeper than some of the base level stuff that's treated through like therapy, self-medication, pills, and stuff like that, you know, it's like uh that's one thing, but then when you start talking about like men just bottling up emotions and feelings and stuff like that, yeah, I think that's a thing we struggle with, but I think women struggle with it too in different ways, you know. I I think a lot of us struggle being uh vulnerable around people in general because we understand the risk of vulnerability, so you bottle stuff up. What about you, Dave?

SPEAKER_07:

No, I mean, definitely I think it's it's natural to struggle with your mental health, right? Um the the I agree with everything AC just said. The key is for you to be able to recognize it and acknowledge it, and if you need to do something about it, do something about it.

SPEAKER_04:

Um but let me ask before you go, let me ask you something on that. What you say in that though, what if what if certain people just feel like there ain't nothing wrong with them, so they don't have a issue. You know what I'm saying? Like, what if people what if you got what if you got friends in your corner telling you, hey, I know you you got something going on, you really got an issue, you really gotta, but then you come back and you can say, Hey, well, that's not me. I ain't one of them ones that got that. I don't struggle with that issue, but he's I mean, what he said, you gotta acknowledge it, you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_06:

Like, that's what I mean.

SPEAKER_07:

If you don't acknowledge it, you you bound the spiral, you know what I mean. So, I mean, but we all uh you can't go through this life and not have a mental health episode, you know. I think oh, I'm clinically depressed.

SPEAKER_06:

Man, it's okay. You you you you can say, like, I know y'all have done stuff. Yeah, I don't care about sharing that with the world, yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

Me 100. I've went through it four years, open therapy. So, yeah, no, I'm with you, buddy. Hey, yeah, but I'm I'm asking because again, I want to ask from different point of views with me saying I'm one of the guys who I don't, you know, I don't I don't I done went through the whole nine yards with everything trying to work on myself. So it's like I say with somebody who done who who who I guess outside in the world who ain't who ain't really voiced their opinion on mental if I want to see what I guess the outside what they trying to say on that.

SPEAKER_07:

No, yeah, I'm I'm definitely an advocate for taking care of yourself, and um however you choose to do that, whether you use, you know, you go to church or you go to therapy, whatever, and it it's a wide range of things that can help us get to that point. Um therapy ain't for everybody, church ain't for everybody, you know. Maybe it's finding an outlet, um, something like playing an instrument, whatever, whatever the case may be, you gotta figure that out for yourself. But the main part about all this is we gotta acknowledge that, yeah, dog, I'm struggling. I mean, I'm struggling, and you know, and I ain't just talking about him as a man, but at 49 years old, sometimes you can feel like, you know, I'm getting older. Uh I I ain't my kids getting older, they don't really need me no more. You know what I mean? And I'm just speaking on stuff that I've heard other other men say that's older than me. You know what I mean? My kids don't need me no more, you know, my body change and things like that can push us. I'm just being honest.

SPEAKER_01:

No, it's not real. No, I'm I'm with them for real.

SPEAKER_07:

I'm saying some of this can can push some mental illness in in our way, so you know, we just gotta acknowledge it and then confront it to the to the best of our ability.

SPEAKER_04:

Well, one of the biggest things what what what folks don't realize when that when that dick stops working and you gotta start taking them little pills to get back right, that should've knocked a whole your whole courage down for real. That'll knock all your little personal everything down now. Tell me more about that, man. I mean, again, I ain't uh hey, meatball ain't gotta worry about that. You know what I mean? I'm straight. Tell me more about how I'm saying no, it's yeah, Bilson ain't gotta worry about all that. Yeah, I know it's it's we fixing it right now, nasty. But yeah, no, Bills, we don't worry about all that, but I'm just saying is like for older men, it could be a lot of folks who you see me on the but it could be an issue and a struggle trying to figure that out.

SPEAKER_07:

Oh now, now I say this. Can y'all get back on camera? I'm trying to, Dean.

SPEAKER_04:

Here it comes, here it come. It's coming, it's turning red.

SPEAKER_01:

My my bad, damn. Give me a second. My bad, damn.

SPEAKER_06:

Ain't nobody tell I I I turn the AI tracking off.

SPEAKER_04:

Okay, I turn it off every week. We do start moving on our own out of nowhere.

SPEAKER_01:

Every time you see why we start moving.

SPEAKER_06:

If I think on this mental health conversation, the most important thing is to find like some level of balance in your life, you know, it and and all aspects of it, because a lot of times I think we focus so much on mental health in these conversations, and we just don't focus on your overall life. We say, What can you do to deal with your mental health? Oh, go to therapy or go to church or or self-medicate or do this or you know, take prescription pills, do it. Okay, yeah, you can do all of that stuff. Well, what contributes to your poor mental health, right? Do you have a good diet? Do you have good people around you? Are you happy in the environment that you're in? Are you happy with the person that you are? You know what I mean? Like, are you doing things that you enjoy doing, or are you just living a routine life and going to work, coming home, taking care of the kids every day? You know what I mean? Like, I it's just an all-encompassing thing. You have to like look at your life and try to build out the life that you want.

SPEAKER_07:

Oh, I was just gonna give a personal example of like, and sometimes it'll just be like little things. So, like, for me, one of the things that like kind of push my mental health into a bad state is procrastination. So, I would procrastinate, do things, either I would get it done late or I wouldn't get it done the way I want it to, and it would drive me nuts. So, I just stopped procrastinating, you know what I mean. Do it when I do what I'm supposed to do when I'm supposed to do it. I told my I told myself that every day. As simple as it sounds, it works.

SPEAKER_04:

Big man always say, Wait broke the wagon, yeah, wait broke the wagon every time though. Thanks, uh your wagon worked.

SPEAKER_06:

Oh yeah, you worry about my goddamn wagon. I wasn't thinking like that. I know I was you know, because you you heavy you I was I was making a fat joke and I it up, okay. Yeah, but Bruno is though uh damn.

SPEAKER_04:

I forgot what I was saying. Yeah, I asked about your wagon, that's crazy, bro. That was out of the world. What was the last one? What did you say? Damn that y'all just I didn't say nothing. No, I'm saying what was you saying because Dean had finished up, and then you had said something.

SPEAKER_06:

No, I I talked about balance because then and Dean spoke after me, and then I was gonna spin us out. It's all right.

SPEAKER_04:

So, pretty much, I guess my last part on this is um she really spin us out because I really don't even remember. I was saying when you start talking about my wagon, you threw me all uh balls.

SPEAKER_06:

Can you just say can we just lock that in a box and it just never come out? Put that part out. Yeah, yeah. Go ahead, but no, go ahead, nigga. Take phone calls and so while we're having this conversation about mental health, and I'm happy we kind of spun here because I had a conversation that I wanted to have kind of mocking mental health, and uh now we're here, and uh you know, let's see if Dean's back because I want to toss it to him first. That's crazy. That's crazy, but no, so you know, we're having this this I think it's really important and informed uh conversational mental health, Dean. But what about when you be seeing people talk about their mental health journeys on social media and they talk about blocking out bad energies and their universe and and universes colliding? And and it and and to me, it sounds like people who don't want to coexist with other people, they just want people to live in their world, and then when you can't live in their world their way, it's now a mental health thing, which it is a mental health thing, but it's it's not them protecting their mental health necessarily, it's them having such fragile mental health that they can't or they refuse to accept things in their world that's different from them, yeah. Um that's you know what the girls be putting in their stories and shit, dog. That's really what I'm talking about, trying to sound it.

SPEAKER_07:

I know, and I know, and I and I don't read today where people had to get cut off, and you know, I've been cut off from people this year too. Um, which is fine. I mean, it's fine, it's fine, but I'm I'm a relationship like type of guy because I know we all gotta leave this earth. So me personally, I'm gonna do if if I feel like I'm wrong, I'm gonna tell you I'm wrong, and then I'm gonna do my part to make it right.

SPEAKER_06:

Because you're just never wrong, right? Huh? You're just never wrong, or rarely wrong.

SPEAKER_07:

No, I'm I'm I'm I'm wrong a lot. I give you that. I give you that, especially when I was younger. Now right now, I'm so solid, I'm I might not be that wrong all the time, at least, at least from my point of view. But when I was younger, I was wrong a lot. Um, but I I'll be trying to mend and you know make things better for folks because genuinely, like I care about them. Um, but they need you in their life. No, not necessarily. I just want to, if anything, I just want it to be like a peaceful exchange, right? That way you know that ain't no hard feelings on my end, and I hope it ain't none on yours. And if we and if you choose to carry it forward, well, we don't have to speak no more. That's that's on you, but just know that it's it's good over here, you know what I mean? It's good here. So I say all that to say that I understand like the cutoff culture, but cutting off family, cutting off parents, I feel like that can be a bit extreme, especially when they gotta leave here. And and then and I don't know, maybe it's just me, but you know, you lose somebody close and you didn't they didn't take the steps to make it right, you didn't take the steps to make it right. It's a whole nother it's a whole nother mental um mental illness that's gonna affect you either then or at some point later. You know what I mean? Because I look let's not say mental illness, it's uh maybe like some anguish, a mental anguish.

unknown:

Okay.

SPEAKER_07:

Where some mental some mental guilt where you should have took these steps because you ain't no goddamn child no more. We all in our 30s, right? And you can reach out just like they can, and then now that person's gone, and you gotta deal with that. I don't want to go through that. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_06:

What if you what if you good though? What if you you know I mean what if it's uh if you good, you good. It is what it is. If I don't speak to that person again, I ain't gonna speak to them.

SPEAKER_07:

Yeah, if you good, you good. Some people like that. I'm just speaking for me personally, I'm not like that. I'm not like that. I'm not like that. I'm gonna be sad that you that you left here, you know what I mean? And I'm gonna remember, and I'm very nostalgic, so I'm gonna remember the times we had.

SPEAKER_01:

Do you remember the time?

SPEAKER_04:

I got a question.

SPEAKER_06:

You just say a question for you though, big whatever though. Is there somebody in this world that exists that you want to say something to that you haven't said something to? And if they were if they were gone tomorrow, would fuck with you. Um camera.

SPEAKER_04:

Um, so personally, me trying to think out loud is it's something that no, because the only person realistically, and this I don't want to sound cliche, but it's like the only person that I ever wanted to say something to, he's not here no more. You know what I'm saying? So it's like I said, I lost, I lost dog when around like the beginning, like around um about middle part of COVID or whatever. So it's like I say, with me not being able to tell dolls certain shit, and now it's like that's probably the that's the only thing that I that I the only person I didn't get to tell who I wanted to, but that's also why me being me, I don't hold nothing in. If I got something to say, I don't give a damn who it is, what it is, what it's about. I go front street, you know, just being real, like I'm a I'm a direct guy, I don't really do all the waiting and holding for that particular reason because I went through the hurt of having something built in me and having to go to the funeral home or going to the grave site to say what I really want to say. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, so that's so me personally no, but being real, like I say, it's it's for the reasons of why of that.

SPEAKER_07:

What about you then? Um, I think I I I've done a good job over the years of voicing my opinion to the folks that matter. Um and I think you know by and large, um it's because I lost somebody early in my life. You know what I mean? So I feel like um the way I take death and maybe a little bit more mature than like some of our age group. You know what I mean? Um, but yeah, no, I I do it every day. I make sure I tell folks how I feel, um, and I make sure I tell them I love them. And because I know that you know we the only guarantee is we gotta get up out of here. Yeah, that's the only guarantee. So, but but with that, you know.

SPEAKER_06:

You know, Todd, if you were a preacher, you would be the preacher when niggas thought you was about to end the sermon, you would make two more points.

SPEAKER_07:

That's a good one. That's a good one. I might preach one day. We don't know. We don't know, but that's that's that's the way I see it, Lee.

SPEAKER_08:

When you go to church, I would. I'm definitely going.

SPEAKER_04:

I'm going with nasty in there. Yeah, I go for nasty though. If he if he the pastor, I'm going. He's gonna start crying and screaming and yelling.

SPEAKER_06:

Are you gonna are you gonna what you gonna do in that collection plate coming by? I'm gonna just because that's my dog.

SPEAKER_04:

Now the fact now, now I'm on his ad. Now I'd say now, yeah, no, but I he gonna be A1.

SPEAKER_07:

He's gonna be we ain't we ain't gonna be talking about lock the doors. This ain't enough.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, no, yeah, no, because then I call the law up there. I will call the law up there, but no, no, no. I'm I'm glad you just said that. Let me ask you a question because they kind of want to make me jump to the next point on a uh the topic list. If you was top being, you know, I guess one of the top men in the world, you uh you know, pretty so you solidified in your town. You you you one of those guys. Could a woman run your household? Now, don't get it twisted. I ain't changing nothing up. She you steal the face, but can a woman run your household?

SPEAKER_06:

You talking to me. I'm asking both of y'all. All right, so what do you mean by run my household? Are we talking like I need I need specific? All right.

SPEAKER_04:

When I say head, like more so like the head of household, can you make no money? Just well, just saying, can she make more money than you? Can she run the household? Like set certain rules, you know. Uh, and when I say rules, I don't necessarily mean like, hey, you need to make sure you know you in the house by X, Y, T time, but you need to make sure this trash taken out, you need to make sure uh little junior got his grades and got need to make sure baby girl got her uh books and everything together. Is that how it's being communicated to me?

SPEAKER_06:

I mean, I don't know if you're telling me to make sure this shit's getting done, or am I making sure it's getting done? She's the head of the household. She makes well see she wouldn't live in my house.

SPEAKER_04:

So so what you saying a woman can't make more money than me.

SPEAKER_06:

No, no, no, she can make she can make but she can make as much money as she wants. Yeah, she can make as much as she wants. Hell, I I support it, but I'm saying so now when it comes to setting our lifestyle, no, absolutely not.

SPEAKER_04:

But y'all can't be like that because okay, no, you can't because again, now it now if you was making the if you was making all the bread and you she was coming home and was able to chill, you would she wouldn't say nothing to you if you was making all the rules and you saying what you were saying. Well, I see I wouldn't, I ain't gonna be at home chilling. So, what you gonna be doing if you if if situations changed and she working every day, she beat me 12 hours down just to make sure you got some you got plenty food, plenty joidance, plenty steaks and and chicken dentals.

SPEAKER_06:

She would only be doing that for a uh um for a period of time while I'm in between jobs or professions. Um I am traditional and I, as a man lead my household. And um for one, I would not enter into a situation with a woman, a financial situation that I can't afford, right? So she can make more money, but like that don't necessarily mean we l we balling off a budget, yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

But but what I'm saying is what if and again, situations change now. What if you are one of those guys who if situate at first you bringing in the bacon, you killing them, you and her together, y'all really eating together, but then shit happen and you fall on hard times. I'm still here to household.

SPEAKER_06:

I mean, you no, no, I I still I still set the the the the vision and the culture for this house. Now, don't get me wrong, day to day. Hey baby, you got it. You know what I'm saying? You got it. I I ain't even getting in your way, but now I'm still a man. I mean, you can't I'm still the man of my house. You can still be the man, but you're not gonna you know just because you make some more money than me, you're not gonna talk to me crazy.

SPEAKER_04:

That's not gonna happen. Now still, let me ask you if it's me, I'm the same way. The same thing, ain't no talking.

SPEAKER_07:

Ain't man, look, this is my house. And I and I don't mean that like we ain't partners, but Dick dry this car. Uh you ain't said none of that bad ass.

SPEAKER_04:

None of that badass. You ain't got OG Drink was gonna be in the building. Uh man, listen, I wouldn't hit all that big game. He ain't now he now.

SPEAKER_06:

If he said he won't share it. I wanna hear it. Cause he gotta go upstairs.

SPEAKER_07:

That part. That part. I I leave I leave my household, you know what I mean? And it that ain't gonna change, you know. She gon she gon and she will, she knows that you know she can she do a lot of things, but we're gonna make sure that um that shit is not my way, but the best way for the family, and she allows me to uh to lead like that.

SPEAKER_06:

And then that's the important part is being with a woman who allows you to lead because there are women out here who when that when that situation like you put on me flips, they're not gonna allow you to lead because they only allow you to lead because of the finances, right? And as a guy who uh when I'm making money and comfortable spending money on women, right? Like we we we joke about it's like I don't pay for sex, but like I I don't mind spending money and doing stuff.

SPEAKER_04:

You do though.

SPEAKER_06:

No, I'm talking about directly.

SPEAKER_04:

I know, but we all do.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, I'm uh but I when I say I don't pay for sex, I don't mean I don't direct, I'm not gonna buy pussy, but yeah, yeah, I'm not yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got you. I know. But I don't I yeah, but I don't want to put in a in a in a serious conversation. I don't want to like put I don't want to cloud it with like saying like I don't want people to be confused and saying that niggas are like like you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_04:

No, but bro, I really I I hate that part though of a conversation because again, that's false. We all fucking do, yeah, yeah. However you look at it and how you ever reword it, yeah, you don't want to say, yeah, I'm just directly buying coochie.

SPEAKER_06:

No, no, no, no, no, no. No, the i i i i don't want to say it specifically in this conversation because just like even getting into that that conversation, which is a a valid conversation, yes, everybody pays for sex, it's just distracting from like the bigger point here. That that's why I say it's okay, go ahead. Yeah, like I'm not dismissing it as a belief, I'm just dismissing it for the purpose of this conversation, yeah. Let me get but like it's about being with women who who respect you, and like I don't I try not to involve myself with women who are only around for for what I provide for them financially, right? It's no no, you can be around for that, can be part of it. That's fine because it's something that I feel comfortable doing. I like to do, but you still gotta like me. Hey, if you don't like me, if you don't respect me, you can't I can't spend money on you, right? Too sure, right? So yes, I could be in a position where a woman would try to like re uh flip the uh roles on me just because my money ain't where it where it usually is or where it was when we uh entered into the relationship, but I try to filter out those types of women, yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

And oh go ahead, my fault nasty. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_07:

Nah, and I I was like, you know, and the if if I lost my job tomorrow, I think I could still leave my household because I think my character kind of speaks to that, and I think Drinker knows that a lot of us.

SPEAKER_06:

play the money game first instead of letting our character speak you got to be able to put your foot down you know what i mean early and you gotta be able to tell her the truth that's just that's just it that's just it but if we well it depends on what y'all talking about sometimes you don't tell the truth huh sometimes you don't gotta tell the whole truth you it depends on what y'all talking about too though that's part of it that I say that's part of the integrity is that but no mean i i think the important the big piece that that you that you talked about there is leading with respect right like if you if you if if you don't lead with respect if you don't lead with character whatever you lead with is what you're gonna fall back on agreed agreed did you see uh the clip about Ruby Rose uh recently no I missed it you got it uh she was she was complaining about being single okay she's a very pretty young lady here I'm I'm gonna play it ain't no motherfucking way I look like this like just chilling in my car like I just look like this off the wake up like no makeup just a little lash and lip gloss and a little fucking and I'm single don't make that's okay you goddamn right it's okay because I I it the thing is this it's pretty women all over the world man and I was at um and I you know we just came off home coming and I I I was with some cats and they was like dang girl you still got it you finer than ever and she still single and he and the niggas they saying what Ruby Rose just saying about herself I can't believe I'm single looking like this or I can't believe you're single looking like this but she 34 she educated and she been around for a good minute now all right we all between 33 and 36 it's something that she ain't doing or it's something that she's not giving up a piece of power that she's not giving up the reason she ain't got no man at this point.

SPEAKER_04:

How old Ruby Rose is oh no he's talking about somebody else but Ruby Rose 28 so Ruby wrote you see the post I said about Ruby Rose she was complaining about being single like looking this good 28 no problem how is she single gotcha okay gotcha and i i'm saying that for like look quote unquote got one no dreya got one the young ones that's how it happened bro you get e you either gotta get a young one or a dunk or old one it don't work it ain't no in between you you ain't getting no nigga you around your crew or a corporate one not even a i mean somebody that's not in your circle kind of kind of but not even that because again if they still in your age bracket they know who you are especially if you a set if you a set name you get what I'm saying like a dreya a goddamn uh uh joceling hernandez and I'm not saying it's to bash nobody I'm just speaking on like bigger names if I know what we we we we hear the stuff about Ruby Rose I'm telling y'all as a single nigga if I meet her and we catch a vibe and I genuinely like her y'all gonna be seeing me walk around Ruby Rose and that's cool for you to say that but again a nigga that's on that caliber they not gonna do that because she burnt out no they're not gonna do that because they're in those circles and they don't want to take it around no because again burnt out and that's but here's the thing though because all these a lot of women are burnt out you just don't know you just don't know who she's been with so we live in this blissful world of oh I don't know nobody who she don't pop so she ain't pop nobody it's different when it's a main name for example a name like Ruby Rose is a different name from your local neighborhood buck down you get what I'm saying like Ruby Rose is a solidified name all over the world I'm not talking about a buck down I'm just talking about any girl that you meet and you don't know you don't know her past and you don't and you don't know the guys that she's that she's touched it's different when we talk about a famous woman because we see them out and we we make these assumptions about what they're also doing that we don't see but what's the difference between them and any other woman I mean it's no different it's she's a mainstream face and now everybody that you say and again I'm not saying this is for everybody but I'm saying that with with that being a mainstream phase it can be so many folks coming to you about her at all times compared to your local girl ain't ain't folks finna hit you up about old girl what she got going on and don't give a damn because just because she the popular girl in your county don't mean she got nothing going on over here. See you what I'm saying but you're missing my point my point is the the the the body collection is the body collection no and I'm I'm not missing that at all I but I'm saying when it's broadcast a lot more for example Kim K that's the difference like Kim Kardashian she's somebody we done seen her so much we see her life we done seen everybody she done been with in the last 10-15 years we think me personally I think maybe Kim Kardashian can't do everything she says she does maybe she ain't as fine as she is when she wakes up in the morning but again that's me looking from the outside in however compared to somebody in that local like for example our neighborhood girl if she getting 10 and 15 different dudes we don't know if she still bucked down because these same 10 15 girls dudes gonna still hit her up going to still go after her gonna still do the exact same thing you get what I'm saying say go ahead what you say then well I think she needs to look at her look at herself in a different light like that's that don't nobody want to hear that I understand how good you look that's fine but you not the look it's it's it's plenty pretty women to go around what else is on the table and I ain't saying you you can't because I know you work hard to get your body that way to me and your genetics are nice.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah but like come on give me something else give me something else talk about that money you got hey but hey but you know what then I know that right then hey but then here's the thing right a lot of women think that looks is it's just enough right okay you're pretty so what and also uh what what ruby rose don't realize and it takes me to the conversation that I had with somebody at youth explosion you women with goals and and money and stuff y'all have repent opinions that have to be respected a youth explosion what's what's no no no no it's not a it's not an inappropriate no i know i'm saying but why that's the church right yes but why the conversation i was having with a with a single lady who was wondering why she's single why y'all talking about that a youth explosion because we're adults like that's not a conversation we have a youth explosion we were we were both counselors yes but but let me see but the point but but the conversation yo this ah i was trying to get it right just like but but the conversation was was that yo when you yeah yeah yeah we're fixing it when you got when you got a when you got a a a career you got passions you got opinions and like a dude has to consider all of that stuff in building a relationship a lot of dudes don't want to deal with that shit like I want to live my life the way I want to live it and I want you to just be a compliment to what I got going on and you make your life fit in in between I'm not saying it's right I'm not saying it's wrong I'm saying it's what a lot of people do. Uh that's my preference honestly I'm selfish so when you take these beautiful women who are educated or got money got this got that well that also comes with something else that you got to deal with shout out to to them but um you got to deal with that like when you say hey I'm thinking about taking this job here and she's like well my company doesn't have anything there and my industry's not there it is not good for me. You actually got to think about that in being a head of household and part of being a good head of household who's respected despite what you bring in is that you actually value your partner's perspective when making decisions you know what I mean right and some people who may genuinely want to value their partner's perspective don't want to value that much perspective Ruby Rose she probably wants to go on vacation more than even a man who can't afford it wants to go on like hey dog no I go to work and go to the gym every day I have a routine I don't want to go on vacation right now yep I mean yeah no I feel that for sure it's your business on vacation and like man come on like you think that's gonna that's gonna get me through every day life get hard dog no that I and I don't I can't deal with no with no shallow surface I need you to have some depth to what we're talking about what if she got deep walls huh nothing what is she at but no so so really though I'm I'm still trying to say so do y'all think that she do got a shot and do you think she got to go like younger or older guys he should have that shit wasn't real man well he could have taken to the top they could have faked it till they made it yeah no that's it that is real though that is real though you just said something though that was a that was a shot you definitely can fake it till you make because now she done got she already done got left in Mexico with by YG she uh ended up she played around with baby for a minute and who cares what you mean who cares when that shit go public it's different no no no it's quiet I ain't saying about somebody circling back to but who cares where she ends up everybody do I don't not really nobody cares she don't end up that's why I say but again that's why you crazy I mean I'm just no I'm just being honest I I hardly care about what most women do if they're not ending up in my lap I don't care well leading uh what's up watching watching this back watching this ball man what it good to be back what KD look like out there he got he got 20 I need him overtime right now did he get them nine you need in asked he close we need four more okay how many more men is left in now we got about what about three okay I don't know why you should not go Rue what's going on Houston not feeding on the bar ain't got no point guard on the phone yeah yeah they're gonna I don't know I don't know what you're gonna do because amen amen they uh amen they uh point guard right now I guess you could say that but AJ interchangeable you know who I really like though Shango Shango Shango yeah he tough drying up well let's finish up this little oh no I'll say this dried up because they over having this bullshit ass basketball conversation in the middle of the podcast like I'll call each other if y'all want to do that well no they can get together because you know they go damn I mean you just got here you know we wanted to hear you uh Rude imagine imagine your life as a sex symbol say that again imagine living like a sex symbol that's how I live nigga what you mean I knew who I swear to god I knew he was gonna say that shit let me see why you think I am I am a sex icon i swear to god i knew it was gonna say that so so what what is it like living like a sex icon because i don't know what it's like to be a sex icon personally it's just sometimes you gotta fight them off like damn hold on baby damn i ain't even trying to do that you ain't trying to do that so like I ain't even trying to do that baby so like as a sex icon do you come on fella do they have high expectations for you you know what i mean like do you have to deliver or you know what i mean it just don't matter because it's you we're gonna go with that one what that mean it's just me we're just gonna go with it all up have you ever thought about what life would be like as a sex symbol like a real like a prince ass nigga go Michael B. Joy and that every time your name comes up that's a prince is not a sex symbol that's dictator shit nah you talk about prince the artist or artist formerly known as Prince you was talking about like a prince no no no sex symbols they freaks he's talking about purple rain prince terror said butt naked who said that she said oh she's talking about you rooster i see that man i'm gonna keep quiet to myself yeah yeah I know root chill him ruchie for a second i about to say whoa who root when you said root chill i heard roochie first before you finish that's a that's a rapper that is hard though that is root that could be rude new name that's that's a rapper from Englewood I ain't taking his name yeah you know you scared of them bloody niggas start punching on you then oh ruchie but no but for real though I don't me personally saying that me being a sex symbol is that shit ain't it ain't more my flavor i'm more I'm like I said I'm basic math I say that all the time I'm more I'm I'm chill be you work in the field that's what you say you see what I'm saying I like all that look I ain't trying to be front screen I'm I'm back seat like things like me go get his nail done and shit like that you talking about yeah yeah that ain't old meatball like I I like I like to get it get hands on filthy a little bit yeah I'm chill I feel I feel yeah that's all that's that's how I'm playing but rooster he you know whatever it is what it is right I mean personally I'm just not made to be a sex symbol you know I I I'm real dirty like hands on get a lot you know that's it you don't think you can act that way as a sex symbol yeah because again you can still be a sex symbol don't mean who you is and it just who you look like now don't get it twisted now I can sell it don't get it to now I can sell it sell ass I would not the not the bunker monsters but it's like it's just called monetization VJ I you see what I'm saying I ain't giving a shit out I have yeah I would do what I gotta do if I need to I ain't trick dean I like that leather you sitting on pal appreciate that roof you know we we do a little bit that shit look man that shit just look like you can't can't drop a drink on that motherfucker appreciate that's alpaca that's alpaca you don't you don't you don't you go to it that's alpaca he don't feel the motherfucking time go get the go get the cream soda country get the cream soda man hey now that everybody's here how did y'all feel about last week's show i got a lot of positive feedback about it honestly i told rue he was a dick but he he he was gonna snap out i told him he was gonna go crazy because he kept saying he started being mean to everybody like always but then when Rue uh when Dean and goddamn when Dean started popping it when oak went off camera girl I got a bunch of good behind her they said terror they was thinking terra was gonna be more uh wide open and funny and talking hands on but I think Roos scared her you think Ruth scared Tara yeah I think he's scared a little bit we gotta I was about to say Tara got to get back on Tara tap in man we gotta see if you scared on what was going on when Rooster got on camera but no I got a bunch of I got a bunch of back what'd you say definitely need to bring her back for sure both of them but off camera was hard though off camera was the one that I felt like she really she really had a bunch of shit to say and the tick tock went crazy with her comment yeah I seen that I seen that I seen that yeah hey you know we can go live on tick tock on mine now just throwing that out though yeah we can go live tick tock too I know you know you got tick tock tick tock has a lot of uh has different rules and stuff and a lot of what we do uh in a live show is isn't gonna hit tick tock's compliance oh yeah that's what we do it's certain words you can't use oh yeah it's a lot to think about and yeah no we just let ai do tick tock for us and one thing about rooster he'll put a book on camera in a heartbeat you hear me rooster put a book on camera it's what'd you say it's legal where I'm at yeah yeah yeah yeah but it don't but like with the with the tick tock algorithm you know we you can't you can't do that live on tick tock I don't even know if I can have Wiz Cleaf for got a but he blurred shit out now on uh on social media yeah man because they doing all that different stuff with monetization which I hate it personally I honestly hate it personally like dog put it out there and if people watch it people watch it and if they don't they don't like uh don't don't tell me I mean I guess it's your platform so you can tell me what you want on your platform huh facts facts though that's how they try to control us though I mean it is their that's how they try to control us like that conversation that we ain't gonna have that we had earlier about jobs telling folks what they can do when they get home from work yeah yeah hey bro I ain't here punching your clock no more what if I don't like how you represent me it don't matter you pay me that's right because we all got a price it is we all got a price well we got two more we do you want to touch them last two or you want to just go one of them no not really um no uh no I really don't want to hear either one of them I want to talk about something else but I don't have anything else I just want to talk about like you know I mean like because the flow like the flow of that one earlier it would have worked better a long time ago which one the bottom one or the second no never the bottom oh bottom uh thinking that they helped they just got messed with girls who got worm it just we don't got worms the dog got worms maybe it's a good question I mean you can have Rue and Dean on here so Ruin Dean me and V was having a question uh before uh having a conversation before the show and I don't really know how we got there but we started talking about you know men dealing with women because you know that's what men like to talk about when they get together and we we just started talking about how you know niggas be thinking they him because you know they get a lot of strange and stuff right but do we ever take a time to inventory who the women are and what their standards are and you may just be hanging around in a slosh pit the whole time and don't even know it yeah see he's sleeping no well i got i must say if he ain't gonna ask that i'm gonna ask because again my my boy Trev he tapped in with me and me and dean we've been talking to i ain't got to talk to Ruba we're gonna talk about you real quick and we're gonna close it out so y'all talking about me for we cussing you the out for what why the did you change you started talking country as hell when you was at uh homecoming and you know I told you we was on your ass I was waiting though trail called you Fino but I didn't know what it meant he sent it to me what it meant so that's why I said we on your ass now I yeah man you always you trying in the call some banks all right so you don't know what's what we're not gonna do what we're not gonna do is we're not gonna do these fucking ambush topics again if y'all niggas want to talk about some shit and make jokes I'm all about that but what we're not gonna do is we're not gonna like team up and then like let's hey let's look let's do a little funny joke on AC like live on there like I'm dead ass serious we're not doing that shit no more we're not doing we're not doing that shit i don't give a I don't give a fuck about what niggas talk about but what we're not gonna do is we're not gonna hop on the podcast uh and like ooh let's do a joke and do a surprise topic we're not putting a surprise topic because me traveling Dream said he was gonna be up here and we was gonna talk to you about how the fuck you was talking y'all niggas worry about how I'm talking pay my motherfucking bills and shut the fuck up what the fuck is wrong with you this show is up I cancel up the fuck up you don't cancel the show like that now should have canceled it because we didn't do it yesterday why didn't you because I'm trying to be a better team player well that's not being a good team player because you was y'all niggas coming up with surprise topics and shit ain't no fucking good team player shit ain't a team player when you just be how no I'm saying y'all come up hey let hey not the end of the show nigga that's some bullshit you've been in my house for an hour nigga it's a joke everybody was playing on it like that's not cool who cares about being cool everybody was having a good time you always do this when it's not on you when you make jokes on everybody else that's not fair bro because you make jokes on eight you make jokes on Dean you make jokes on me you make jokes on trip you make that up all the time y'all make jokes on me and I laugh I don't have a problem I don't have a problem with jokes but when we like doing sneaky topics bro that shit ain't funny that's not though you can't do that bro it's not you can't do that because again we ain't making jokes we ain't crashing on you bj I'm not mad for real but I'm saying that's but but but but but but you I know but you think I'm mad right now I'm I'm not mad for real no it's not about being mad for real or not because again bro you gotta be able we gotta be able to have conversation just a conversation topic we gotta do that BJ I faked the temper tantrum and I actually allowed myself to get mad so it look real on camera but because you felt my energy we still love I know I know I know I know I know I know but no no no but I'm speaking but but but I'm telling you because I feel your energy because I'm sitting next to you and you felt get actually upset but I'm not actually really upset but you gotta stop doing that bro if we're gonna have a good time because now you you threw it off with everybody now you got them niggas on the background all squatting now they don't even want to make the joke no more don't even want to make the joke with you now my Uber be here in three minutes I gotta go where you gonna go where you going to money house I'm going to money man house why you taking the Uber we just gonna because I've been we'll come out there to go eat so to go eat what they eat what they cooking up oh you didn't piglet hey man we on another episode of Billy Viz man ain't see done killed it and he done got my dog dean off the goddamn show now we out of him baby what'd you say what'd you say roo we ain't gonna see dean for three months I mean yeah he done did back to back show yeah yeah dean over with so we got 115 115 eight seconds left Shay Gillard with the ball because I really wish I really really wish trail was here stop with you no I ain't stopped oh god damn they chill man if I say something I say something about