Dying Dogs, Pollution and Tsunami Warnings on the Venice Beach Canals

In this episode Sandy & Chuck explore a troubling cluster of illnesses affecting dogs on the Venice Canals - with seven reported deaths and numerous others hospitalized. The hosts discuss potential causes, including toxic algae and environmental pollution, while highlighting community responses and public health investigations. They also touch on the broader implications of pollution on marine life and the role of local activism - particularly among the youth - in addressing these issues. The conversation concludes with reflections on the upcoming Olympics and the need for responsible environmental stewardship. Oh, and there's also shout-out for the new Alana's Coffee Roasters which has just opened up on Pacific in Venice!

00:00 Mysterious Canine Illnesses in Venice Canals
03:02 Investigating Potential Causes
05:56 Community Response and Theories
08:50 Public Health and Environmental Concerns
12:13 Impact of Pollution on Marine Life
15:06 Youth Activism and Environmental Awareness
17:54 The Role of Local Government
21:00 Future of Venice and the Olympics
24:05 Closing Thoughts and Local Recommendations

Intro Music: "Trip" by DJ Nick "Feesch" Wilson

Transcript

Chuck E (00:07)
Okay, Sandy. Chuckie. Yes. Troubling cluster of illnesses has impacted dogs on the Venice Canal as I'm reading this. ⁓ Seven have died, 11 more in hospital in the past two weeks. Symptoms include seizures, nausea, neighborhood groups suspect the cause may be some kind of toxic algae.

Sandy Clark (00:07)
Okay, Sandy. ⁓ Check me. Yes. Cholesterol in cluster of illnesses has impacted dogs on the venous and alveoli. Seven died, 11 more in hospital in the past two weeks. Symptoms include seizures, nausea, other negative groups, certain cause, maybe some kind of toxic algae.

Chuck E (00:35)
public health officials and animal services are investigating. Meanwhile, residents have posted warning signs and are sharing details of any symptoms. So the question is, what is going on? Well, I can tell you that the Venice canals on a certain side, on the eastern side, for a while there smelled really, really bad. mean, the water's pretty stagnant.

Sandy Clark (00:36)
public health officials and other citizens are investigating. Meanwhile, the police posted warnings of injuries, sharing details and symptoms. So the question is, what is going on? Well, can tell you that the Venice canals on a certain side on the eastern side for a while, they were smelled really, really bad. The water was pretty stagnant.

Chuck E (01:04)
Yeah, it's stagnant and it's really, there's just a bunch of gook there. And I took a walk there with the only thing that's missing is an alligator really. You know, it's got that swampy. Yeah, it's very swampy. It's very swampy. It smells. I went there with my friend who's a biologist and someone who unfortunately lost their dog. And we walked her route.

Sandy Clark (01:05)
and it's really, there's just a bunch of gook there. And I took a walk there with... Yeah, it's very swampy. It's very swampy, it smells. I went there with my friend, a biologist and someone who unfortunately lost their dog. And we walked her route.

⁓ My biologist friend does not think it's plants. Some people thought it was plants, certain flowers. That just doesn't cut it. It could be the water. mean, the dogs actually jumping in the water. No, the dogs won't swim in that water. And if they do, it's just maybe once in a while you see a ⁓ dog jump in there and jump right out. But

Chuck E (01:33)
⁓ my biologist friend does not think it's plants. Some people thought it was plants, certain flowers, ⁓ that just doesn't cut it. It could be the water. mean, the dogs actually jumping in the water. No, the dogs don't swim in that water. And if they do, it's just maybe once in a while you'll see a ⁓ dog jump in there and jump right out. But.

The people walking these dogs, they're leashed. Most of them live around here. One owner was on vacation staying here at an Airbnb, I think. you know, the water in the ocean is really gross and really dirty. And that's where the water comes from. Well, yeah, I mean, we'll come onto this later. ⁓ But yeah, that's been one of the talking points, especially after the fires this year has been the ocean and how

Sandy Clark (02:01)
The people walking these dogs, they're leashed. Most of them live around here. One owner was on vacation staying here, an air baby I think. So, you know, the water in the ocean is really gross and really dirty. And that's where the water comes from. ⁓

Chuck E (02:31)
⁓ polluted it's been. And the watershed, ⁓ so is this a coincidence? I don't think, know what, anything, can be anything. The watershed people came, that's the name of the organization and they took samples of the water. Hopefully they took samples of the slush and all the gook and not just the water. And for anyone who doesn't know who might be listening, the Venice canals are actually salt water. They,

Sandy Clark (02:31)
uh, looted, think. the watershed, uh, so it's a current case? I don't think, you know what, anything, it can be anything. The watershed people came, that's the name of the organization, and they took samples of the water. Hopefully they took samples of the slush and all the gook, and not just the water. As for anyone who doesn't know, while you're listening, Venice canals are actually so critical. They, um,

Chuck E (03:02)
have some barriers which they sort of raise twice a week. think it's on a Tuesday and a Thursday and it lets fresh water as in new water, salt water in and the old water out. The problem is ⁓ at the far end on the, is that Easton Canal? Yeah. Okay. That canal, I really don't know if the water ever. It doesn't. It's just, but it was really, really bad a couple of weeks ago. So bad that it smelled.

Sandy Clark (03:02)
have some barriers, which they sort of raise twice a week on Tuesday and Thursday. That lets fresh water as a new water, salt water in and the old water out. problem is, at the far end, is that Eastman Canal? Yeah. Okay, that canal, I really don't know if your water ever... It doesn't. It's just, but it was really, really bad a couple of weeks ago. So bad that it smelled...

Chuck E (03:32)
Terribly and I had to like hold my nose when I like hold my breath when I walked by there so what I mean Did the dogs drink the water? Do they inhale the? Smell of it. Are they stepping on something weird? Well, it's only dogs though. I mean we're not saying cats or any other animals now like possums raccoons. They're also now furry

Sandy Clark (03:32)
Terribly and I had to like pull my nose. I like hold my breath and walk by there so what I mean Did the dogs drink the water? Do they inhale the? Smell of it. Are they stepping on something weird? ⁓

Chuck E (03:59)
I mean, I wonder, but it might be something that just that dogs are sensitive to. You know, they did find a one duck that was dead, which is weird. I've never seen a dead duck in there. yeah. mean, well, there's lots of ducks on the canal though. So yeah, I'm sure one of them. That was just weird. So, and, it's more by the way, I think it's 24 dogs have been, have had

Sandy Clark (03:59)
I mean, I wonder, but it might be something that just, that dogs are sensitive to. You know, they did find one duck that was dead, which is weird. I've never seen a dead duck in there. Yeah. But that was just weird. So, and it's more by the way, think it's 24 dogs have have had

Chuck E (04:28)
symptoms and ailments. And I think it's up to 10 dogs that have ⁓ passed. I hope I'm wrong. Okay. So well, if it's not the ⁓ algae in the canals, there are other theories going around. I've got written down here. I've got rat poison written down. I've got ant killer powder, snail poison. And some people are even saying some kind of human sort of espionage or something going on. I do any of those kind of resonate with you?

Sandy Clark (04:28)
and I think it's up to 10 dogs that have passed. I hope I'm wrong. Okay, so if it's not the algae in the canals, there are other theories going around. I've I've got right here, I've got an killer, smell, and some people were telling me some kind of human espionage or something going on. Right.

Chuck E (04:58)
I know there was a house when you initially wrote the article. Yeah. There was a house that initially had signs all over it saying snail poison. And so I thought, well, why would anyone want to get rid of snails? But I guess that can be an issue. So I knocked on the door and somebody came through on ring and he was like, I'm not there. I'm in New York.

Sandy Clark (04:58)
I know there was a house that initially had signs all over it saying snail poison. And so I thought, well, why would anyone want to get rid of snails? But I guess that can be an issue. So I knocked on the door and somebody came through on ring and he was like, I'm not there. I'm in New York.

Chuck E (05:28)
what's going on and I told him and he goes, well, we had really bad ants in the backyard and I asked the owner to take care of it. And so the owner told him that he hired a handyman and the handyman came on, I think it was July 11th. He could tell cause he looked at his text messages and he left white powder all over in the backyard, but visibly on the lawn and up.

Sandy Clark (05:28)
what's going on and I told him and he goes, ⁓ wow. had really bad ants in the backyard. And I asked the owner to take care of it. And so the owner told him that he hired a handyman and the handyman on, I think it was July 11th, he could tell cause he looked at his text messages and he left white powder all over in the backyard, visibly on the lawn. ⁓

Chuck E (05:56)
like on the concrete around the front of the house, but also on the sidewalk. so, at first I was like, well, dogs shouldn't really be on the property eating this stuff. I mean, it happens. But when I saw on the sidewalk, then I became like, God, maybe that's what it is. And I researched the product and it's really toxic. I mean, the stuff in it is really, really toxic, but I don't know if all the dogs walked.

Sandy Clark (05:56)
like on the concrete around the front of the house, but also on the sidewalk. And so at first I was like, well, what shouldn't really be on the property eating the stuff? And it happens. But when I saw on the sidewalk, then I'd be like, that's what it is. And I researched the product and it's really toxic. mean, stuff in it is really, really toxic.

I don't know if all the dogs walk

past there. Well, let's say it's an ant powder. It's fire ant powder. Okay. Wow. That still seems incredible that you can basically put some ant powder out around the sidewall of the And suddenly two weeks later they're dogs. Yeah. Well, can't.

Chuck E (06:26)
there. So well, let's say it is this and yeah, powder. It's it's fire ant powder. Okay, well, that still seems incredible that you can basically put some ant powder out around a sidewalk around someone's house. And suddenly, two weeks later, you've got 10 dead dogs. Yeah, well, they

had to come on suddenly, whatever they

Sandy Clark (06:52)
that would come on suddenly, whatever they

Chuck E (06:56)
inhaled or licked or ate. I mean, I think it could be that, that poison, that stuff. in the ant crap poison. And I have a sample of it. Okay. So I've, so I've also heard these theories of disgruntled people who live on the canals who maybe don't like dogs, I guess them

Sandy Clark (06:56)
inhaled or licked or ate. I mean, I think it could be that poison, that stuff. Yeah, and I have a sample of it.

Chuck E (07:20)
crapping everywhere or filling up the sidewalk, somebody going around and throwing.

Sandy Clark (07:21)
I ⁓ mean

Chuck E (07:25)
pellets down that could be laced with something. mean, again, that seems, mean, that would have to be some crazed person. I mean, if you live on the canals, you pretty much love dogs. It doesn't make sense. I mean, just don't move to the canals if you don't like dogs because they're around everywhere. But we are at the epicenter of Cray Cray here in LA, aren't we? That's true. You know, you could even get somebody who's coming

Sandy Clark (07:29)
that would have to be some crazy person. I mean if you live on the canals you pretty much love dogs. It doesn't make sense. I mean just don't move to the canals if you don't like dogs because they're around everywhere. ⁓

across town and

Chuck E (07:50)
across town and

Sandy Clark (07:55)
putting something down. Maybe a disgruntled person, but that seems really gross. I think we'll find out more with the WhatsApp. Okay, well that's actually my next question. So what is their only kind of timeline? if you touch with somebody, they're talking to a public health department for...

Chuck E (07:55)
putting something down. But maybe a disgruntled person. But that seems really gross. I think we'll find out more ⁓ with the the WhatsApp. Okay, well, that's actually my next question. So what is there any kind of ⁓ timeline? I mean, can we get in touch? Can somebody get in touch with the ⁓ public health?

department to find

out any results or from the vets, from dogs that are ill or have indeed died? have heard, everything is so far inconclusive. so there's one person who lives on the Venice canals who's kind of taken a lead. And so I check in with him every day and I ask, because he knows I'm a reporter, and I ask, know, have you heard anything? Are there any updates? So that's the next step.

Sandy Clark (08:23)
We have heard, but everything that's spoken is inclusive. there's some particular, some of it is kind of taking a lead. And so I check in with him every day and ask, because he knows I'm a reporter. And I ask, know, have you heard anything? Are there any updates? So that's the next step.

Chuck E (08:46)
I mean, I don't really want to wait

Sandy Clark (08:46)
I mean, I don't really want to wait.

Chuck E (08:49)
for someone to provide an update. So as we are recording this now, it's the week beginning fifth, fourth of August. ⁓ Is it still on high alert here? There haven't been any more deaths, but there hasn't been any more dogs walking around. Wow, exactly. So I know that that house was cleaned up. ⁓

Sandy Clark (08:49)
for someone to provide an update. There haven't been any more deaths, there hasn't been any more dogs walking around. So I know that that house was cleaned up. ⁓

Chuck E (09:17)
I think

Sandy Clark (09:17)
I think

Chuck E (09:18)
there's a knuck necropsy. It's a, an autopsy for dogs, maybe for animals. It's just called a necropsy and one person whose dog past is getting one. So, ⁓ again, there there's a WhatsApp group, which is really great. It's called know your neighbor and everyone is submitting any symptoms. ⁓ if their dog was impacted, if their dog did indeed.

Sandy Clark (09:19)
There's an autopsy. It's an autopsy for dogs, maybe for animals. It's just called an autopsy. And one person who's dog passed is getting one. So again, there's a WhatsApp group, which is really great. It's called Know Your Neighbor. And everyone is submitting any symptoms. If their dog was impacted, if their dog did empty.

⁓

Chuck E (09:47)
⁓

you know, die because of this. So there's a tight knit community and everyone is supporting and, know, providing details. And I think, you know, that we're going to hear something. And it's definitely something on the canals. It's not like some kind of disease or something that dogs are getting. Do we like, if we go further east or west or north, is there, not west and that'd be the ocean, but.

Sandy Clark (09:48)
you know die because of this so there's a tight-knit community and everyone is supporting and you know providing details i think you know that we're going to hear something definitely something on the canal it's not like

Chuck E (10:17)
North and South and East. Any other dogs sort of dying? ⁓ we know of, haven't heard anything. Well, there was something in Marina Del Ray. The dog didn't die, fortunately, but who knows? You know, I'm, I'm kind of surprised that there's not more health officials out here. Well, okay. So that brings me onto the next section. know, ⁓ was it last week? You went to, city, city ⁓ hall.

Sandy Clark (10:17)
North and South, I Yeah, I mean, maybe. Dying? You know, I'm not sure. Well, there was something in Marina Del Rey that didn't die, fortunately. But who knows? You know, I'm kind of surprised that there's not more health officials out here. Well, OK, that brings me on to the next section. know, was it last week? Last Tuesday, I went to City Hall.

Chuck E (10:47)
there was a surface protest and they were, let's, I've got this written down. They were basically protesting the environment pollution that's going on in the ocean. And this seems to be ever since we've had the fires here at the beginning of this year. ⁓ know it's always something we've won, we've spoken about, but ⁓ pollution, the ocean, it just seems to be a very big hot topic here. Yeah, of course.

Sandy Clark (10:47)
Yeah, course. ⁓

Chuck E (11:15)
Venice and indeed West LA.

Well, and it's kind of, it's not really spoken of that much. ⁓ It is with people who are environmentalists or people just who are animal lovers like we are. But I mean, when we saw those seals and dolphins up and down the coast, that was really horrific.

Sandy Clark (11:17)
Well, and it's kind of, it's not really spoken of that much. It is with people who are environmentalists or people just who are animal lovers like we are. But I mean, when we saw those seals and dolphins up and down the coast, that was really horrific.

Chuck E (11:43)
Again, let me just interrupt for anyone who doesn't know, not

talking about cute seals swimming around in the ocean. We're talking here about seals that have washed up beach seals, some of which unfortunately were passed away and others were actually rescued. And a lot of dolphins, they didn't make it because it attacks their brain and there's no way to, it's very rare to save a dolphin.

Sandy Clark (11:47)
about seals swimming around in the ocean, like we're here about seals that were... Beached. They beached themselves. Some of which were passed away and others were actually rescued. And a lot of dolphins, didn't make it because it detects their brain. There's no way to... It's very rare to save a dolphin.

But this was all from inside...

Chuck E (12:13)
But this was all coincide

with the after effects of the fire. Big effects because the fire debris was never cleaned up and there were rainfalls. So all of that went into the water. And I went to a couple of protests and again, worked with my friend who's a biologist. And I mean, the samples that she was taking.

Sandy Clark (12:16)
with the after effects of the fire. Big effects because the fire debris was never cleaned up. And there were rainfalls. So all of that went into the water. And I went to a couple of protests and I worked with my friend who's a biologist. I mean, the samples that she was taking,

Chuck E (12:42)
It's not safe to go into the ocean. Okay. Well, that's exactly

Sandy Clark (12:42)
it's not safe to go into the ocean.

Chuck E (12:45)
what I was going to ask you. Would you go into the ocean? No, it's not safe. It's dirty and Santa Monica, the beach near the Santa Monica Pier, which is where most tourists go is filthy. And it's not, and I don't think it's filthy because of like

Sandy Clark (12:45)
Yeah, no, no. It's not safe. It's dirty and Santa Monica, the beach near Santa Monica Pier, which is where most tourists go, is filthy. And it's not, I don't think it's filthy because of like

pollution, like cups and stuff like that. I think it's because there's like a watershed

Chuck E (13:09)
pollution like cups and stuff like that. think it's because there's like a watershed,

water basin. It's where the like this, like all the stuff comes from the rain. I know that there can you remember was it? mean, time just seems to blur into one thing these days. But remember when they had a big beach cleanup last year or the year before? Yeah. And I was reading about that and they were saying it's not necessarily the

Sandy Clark (13:16)
uh water basin it's where the like this like all the stuff comes from the rain what's it called i know that i mean time just

Chuck E (13:38)
⁓ literal rubbish you pick up. It's the microscopic bits of plastic that you can't actually see that get washed into the ocean. And this is what's causing the Yeah, it gets washed. So I can only imagine after the fires when you've really got houses. yeah. But it's also the it's also the they call it nutrients. ⁓ I don't know why they call it nutrients. But it feed like all that stuff. All that duck it feeds the

Sandy Clark (13:46)
ocean and this is what's causing the... Yeah, gets washed away. can imagine that. get to go to houses... yeah, but it's also that... It's also that they call it nutrients. I don't know why they call it nutrients, but it feeds, like all that stuff, all that duck, feeds the

Chuck E (14:07)
algae. It's kind of like an instigator. And that's why it came out so fast earlier than usual

Sandy Clark (14:07)
algae. It's kind of like an instigator and that's why it came out so fast earlier than usual.

Chuck E (14:15)
and why there was so much. But you're seeing the actual cause of, you know, like the environment, like breaking down around you. And that's really like, that's really scary. And it's really makes you think of like, what can I do to help? Because it's still

Sandy Clark (14:15)
and why there was so much, but you're seeing the actual cause of, you know, like the environment, like breaking down around you. And that's really like, that's really scary. And it's really makes you think of like, what can I do to help? Because it's still,

Chuck E (14:36)
it's still dirty. There's an area here called Mother's Beach, which is really popular with people from out of town. ⁓

Sandy Clark (14:36)
it's still dirty. There's an area here called Mother's Beach, which is really popular with people from out of town.

You know that people drive in and they park and they go to Marina Del Rey and they go to Mother's Beach. It's like a bay. And there's a very small sign there that says do not swim in water. And no one's going to look at that. And this is where little kids are swimming all the time. And so, yeah,

Chuck E (14:45)
You know, they people drive in and they park and they go to Marina Del Rey and they go to Mother's Beach and it's like a bay. And there's a very small sign there that says do not swim in the water. And no one's going to look at that. And this is where little kids are swimming all the time. And so ⁓ yeah, it's really ⁓

It's really irresponsible. ⁓ So again, the people have to

Sandy Clark (15:06)
it's really irresponsible. ⁓ So again, like people have to...

Chuck E (15:13)
take a stance and we're going back to what you asked about city hall. So last week I went to city hall because a group of teenagers, ⁓ it was started by the Pacifica Christian high school, their surf team, and they decided to take a stand and speak to city, the city, ⁓ city hall members, city council.

Sandy Clark (15:13)
take a stance and we're going back to what you asked about City Hall. So last week I went to City Hall because the group of teenagers, it was started by the Pacifica Christian Christ School, their surf team, and they decided to take a stand in the city, the city, city hall members, city council,

Chuck E (15:34)
saying that we want to be part of the solution and we're the ones who are going into the water and we're the ones who are surfing and we're seeing firsthand how bad it is

Sandy Clark (15:34)
saying that we want to be part of the solution and we're the ones who are going into the water and we're the ones who are surfing and we're seeing firsthand how bad it is.

Chuck E (15:43)
and we have ideas and they had some really good ideas ⁓ which we can talk about later. I say this somewhat cynically. How much faith do you have in the powers that be in Los Angeles? mean, Venice is, I think there's like 10 million tourists come here a year.

Sandy Clark (15:43)
And we have ideas and they had some really good ideas, which we can talk about later. I say this somewhat cynically. How much space do you have in the palace? I mean Venice, I think there's like 10 million tours every year.

Chuck E (16:04)
We've got the Olympics coming here. mean, talking about toxic algae in a polluted ocean

Sandy Clark (16:04)
We've got the Olympics coming up. I mean talking about toxic algae and polluted ocean.

Chuck E (16:13)
is not good press. No, it's not. Are people really working on this or are they just kind of brushing it aside or is it just not a big deal? I think it's just that it's just to them. I can't speak for everybody, but I think everybody's saying it's

Sandy Clark (16:13)
Yeah. It's not good press. it's not. People really working on it and just pushing it aside or if it's not a deal. I think it's just that it's to them. You know, I can't speak for everybody, but I think it's, I think everybody's saying it's

their problem and it's their problem. Like talk to those people and then talk to that committee and then talk to that committee. It's somebody else's problem. And so

Chuck E (16:33)
their problem and it's their problem. Like talk to those people and then talk to that committee and then talk to that committee. It's somebody else's problem. And so

luckily here we have something called the Marine Mammal Care Center and they're just a group and a nonprofit and they saved so many seals and dolphin and other wildlife, you know, birds. ⁓ But

Sandy Clark (16:42)
Luckily here we have something called the Marine Mammal Care Center and they're a group, a non-profit and they saved so many seals and dolphins and other wildlife, ⁓ know, birds. ⁓ But

Chuck E (17:00)
As far as the city council, mean, it just seems like it's everything takes so long and there's still this committees and they have to

Sandy Clark (17:00)
as far as the city council, mean, it just seems like it's everything takes so long and they're felt as committees and they have

Chuck E (17:10)
do this and they have to do that in order to get something done. So to see this group of teenagers approach them and say, we have some ideas and we're going to do it. Basically, it's going to come down to that where it's people are going to have to just start doing it instead of waiting for permission to do it. But I mean,

Sandy Clark (17:11)
this and that in order to get something done. So to see this group of teenagers approach them and say, we have some ideas and we're going to do it. Basically, it's going to come down to that or it's people are going to have to start doing it instead of waiting for permission to do it. But I mean,

Chuck E (17:29)
Of course you do need permission when you're going to be dealing with, you know, certain things that have to do with the ocean and the environment and

Sandy Clark (17:29)
of course, you do need permission when you're going to be dealing with, you know, certain things that have to do with the ocean and the environment.

Chuck E (17:39)
know, other things. I'm now thinking, talking of the ocean still, I'm thinking about that great white shark that we're seeing off the coast of Santa Monica, I think heading south, our direction. Right. At first I thought that's kind of cool.

Sandy Clark (17:39)
other things. ⁓

Chuck E (17:54)
It's kind of rare to see a great white. I think it was 50 yards away from the beach and they said it was like 15 feet long. ⁓ But I'm now wondering, the shark actually okay? ⁓ What was it doing? Yeah,

Sandy Clark (18:07)
Yeah, that's interesting. So I think I told you that in Australia, they have had a lot of animals beached. So something's going on there, like a lot of, I think it was

Chuck E (18:07)
that's interesting. So I think I told you that in Australia, they have had a lot of animals beached. So something's going on there. Like a lot of, I think it was,

some turtles and some more seals, but it's the ocean. So of course it's not just gonna stay in one little area.

Sandy Clark (18:23)
some turtles and some more seals, but you know, it's the ocean. So of course it's not just gonna stay in one little area. ⁓

Chuck E (18:34)
I don't know what's going on in Australia, but you raise a good point. Like why was there a shark there? And we can't just assume that it was just, why was it so close? So we don't know, but.

Sandy Clark (18:35)
I don't know what's going on in Australia, but you raise a good point. Like, why was there a shark there? And we can't just assume that it was just, you know, why was it so close? So we don't know,

like my friend Ashley Olson, who'll be on the show eventually, she said, which is so true that we treat the ocean like it is a garbage. Garbage can. And so.

Chuck E (18:48)
Like my friend, Ashley Olson, he'll be on the show eventually, she said, which is so true that we treat the ocean like it is a garbage, a big garbage can. And so

that's when I asked her, said, well, what can we do? And she said, well, don't use plastic. And of course we use plastic, we need to stop. ⁓ And there are other things. ⁓

Sandy Clark (19:03)
That's when I asked her, said, well, what can we do? And she said, well, don't use plastic. Of course we use plastic, we need to stop. And there are other things,

Chuck E (19:17)
You know, well, I guess just the law of averages as well. If you live in Southern California on the edge of the Pacific Ocean, at some point, chances are you're going to see a swimming on by. I've never seen a shark. Well, I guess they do turn up every now

Sandy Clark (19:17)
you know. Well, I guess you go over the averages as well. you meet them in California on the edge of the Pacific Ocean, at some point, she wants to know if you're going to see a shark swimming I've never seen a shark. Well, I guess they can turn up every

Chuck E (19:33)
and then. Something else I want to mention, which was the Olympics. The Olympics. We can talk about the Olympics, but related to the ocean, the tsunami.

Sandy Clark (19:34)
⁓ yes, like which was the Olympics. The Olympics. can talk about the Olympics, but like to the ocean. tsunami

last week. was scary. Yeah. And you have, it makes you think like, okay, if there was a tsunami and just like the fires, do you have a plan? No.

Chuck E (19:45)
last week. That was for about 12 hours or so. Yeah, it was like, my god. And you have, it makes you think like, okay, if there was a tsunami, and just like the fires, do you have a plan? ⁓

we don't. And we should, like, what would you take? I mean, we should have like, ⁓ we should learn from what happened in

Sandy Clark (20:04)
We don't and we should. Like what would you take? mean, we should have like, ⁓ we should learn from what happened in

the fires. Well, I mean, it's like, you know, we should also grab things like our passport and wallets. Yeah. Right.

Chuck E (20:12)
I think we decided we were going to take the cat in that, what is it, TMNK painting. Didn't we just make that what we would grab? it's like, we should also grab things like our passport and wallets. Yeah. Well, I guess the ocean, that could take us off to Asia or Australia or somewhere like that, couldn't it? Uh-huh.

But I mean, we do have signs here that say tsunami warning. I thought it was very interesting though how, again, the news, it's kind of, it happens.

Sandy Clark (20:32)
But I mean, we do have signs here that say tsunami warning. I thought it was very interesting how, again, the news kind of, it happens,

Chuck E (20:43)
not that you can predict these things, but it happened and bam, it's to stall the news. And then the next day it just isn't anymore. You know? And it's cause I remember asking you, what happened with the tsunami? It just didn't happen. I mean, I know in Huntington beach, they had to cancel the

Sandy Clark (20:43)
not that you can predict these things, but it happened and bam, it's just the news and then the next day it didn't happen. Right. And it's because I remember asking, well, what happened with the tsunami? It just didn't happen. I mean, I know in Huntington Beach they had to cancel the

Chuck E (20:59)
start of the surfing competition, but you know, that's scary. ⁓ But I think what's scarier is going back.

Sandy Clark (21:00)
start of the surfing competition. you know, that's scary. ⁓ But I think what's scarier is going back

to what we started with is what is going on in the canals. Like, don't see people walking their dogs. And I want to see people walking their dogs. People are, you know, grieving. so I think

Chuck E (21:11)
to what we started with is what is going on in the canals. Like ⁓ I don't see people walking their dogs and I wanna see people walking their dogs. People are, you know, grieving and so I think,

Sandy Clark (21:26)
I don't want this to be like, okay, let's move on to the next thing. know, so I made it to the park, which we walk around in. You know, have these mornings not taking the dog into the dog park, know

Chuck E (21:26)
I don't want this to be like the news, like, okay, let's move on to the next thing. I know, ⁓ so our neighbors have dogs basically, which we walk every now and then. ⁓ And I do know you have these warnings of not taking a dog into a dog park every now and

Sandy Clark (21:41)
what Right. Or there's something going around, going to the dog to the park. one doesn't. So I guess. it something that a dog picked up? Was it?

Chuck E (21:41)
That seems to crop up. there's something going around. Don't take your dog to the park. So one doesn't. I guess stuff does happen. Yeah. Was it something that a dog picked up? Was it,

you know, was it a frontline? know, anyway, flea medication. Yeah. It doesn't have to be frontline, but you know what I mean? ⁓ But

Sandy Clark (21:56)
you know, was it a frontline? know, anyway, free medication. It doesn't have to be frontline, but you know what I mean? ⁓ But,

you know, it's still very uneasy feeling. Exactly. And also, forgot to mention the Olympics. That was in the news this week. Obviously, Venice is going to have a triathlon. Yeah.

Chuck E (22:11)
You know, it's still very uneasy feeling. Exactly. ⁓ And also, because we're starting to wrap up now, you did mention the Olympics. So that was in the news this week. Obviously Venice, I it's going to have the triathlon, I think, they're going to have the start of the

marathon or the marathon part of the triathlon or the cycling. Right. I don't know, but they're going to... And I guess that that must be one of the first events because it's also having the first medal ceremony here. typical of the Venice...

Sandy Clark (22:27)
Marathon, right? I don't know and I guess it that must be one of the first events again ⁓

Chuck E (22:40)
political infrastructure. There's now talking yesterday about there must be some ballot measure, some people voting on whether they're going to allow the temporary venues to be built or used as far as the Olympics is

concerned. Yeah. It's like everything needs a ballot. Everything needs a committee to decide on this or whatever. But I mean, this is, I don't know who's in charge. mean, Venice is

Sandy Clark (22:55)
Yeah. It's like everything needs a Everything needs a committee to decide on this or whatever. But I mean, this is, I don't know who's in charge. mean, Venice is

considered Los Angeles. Santa Monica is not. Santa Monica is not having anything because they have their own problems and a lot of them. ⁓ But Venice here, I guess they're going have to set up stuff and they're going to have to like set

Chuck E (23:07)
Los Angeles. Santa Monica is not. Santa Monica is not having anything because they have their own problems and a lot of them. ⁓ But Venice here, guess they're going to have to set up stuff and they're going to have to like set up

Sandy Clark (23:24)
But I would think it'd be really good for the economy. can't imagine why anybody would vote against that. But also, do they ever write? the people ever write?

Chuck E (23:24)
seating. But I would think it'd be really good for the economy. I can't imagine why anybody would vote against that. How can you imagine? But also, do they have a right? Do the people have a right?

Sandy Clark (23:36)
⁓

Chuck E (23:36)
Well, you know what though, you say you don't know why anyone would vote against it. I remember running the LA marathon and it would start at Dodger Stadium. It would finish in Santa Monica. And you know what it was like at the finish line. was just wonderfully packed full of all these

marathon runners. And I don't know if you can hear the sirens in the background here. is Venice. is the usual occurrence. Exactly. But all the local traders voted.

Sandy Clark (23:55)
Marathon practice, and I don't think can hear the sirens in the background here. is the usual occurrence. But all the local traders noted that

Chuck E (24:05)
that they didn't want the marathon to finish there anymore because it was affecting parking as far as their customers were concerned, which I found really hard to believe because you would just think this event is just bringing thousands of people into the area. Parking. mean,

Sandy Clark (24:06)
they didn't want the marathon to finish there anymore because it was affecting parking as far as their customers were concerned, which I find really hard for me to about this. It's just weird. It's bringing thousands of people into the Parking? I mean...

Chuck E (24:22)
that makes no sense. So as I say that to you now, it makes me actually do raise an eyebrow. I'm sure they will get it through because at end of the day, money talks. And also just so you know, because we live in Venice, we have

Sandy Clark (24:23)
That makes no sense. also just so you know, because we live in Venice, we have

an app, I do it's called Citizen and it's all over. ⁓ But I have it on and I'm always running my phone to see like what's happening. ⁓

Chuck E (24:35)
an app I do, it's called Citizen and it's all over. But I have it on and I'm always running my phone to see like what's happening. Yeah, so that's where we can

get all the updates. Or people can find us Venice Pulse and we're going to be putting stuff online, putting stuff on here to check out what's happening. ⁓

Sandy Clark (24:51)
Get all the updates. Or people can find us on Facebook and we're going to be putting stuff online, putting stuff on here to check out what's happening.

Chuck E (25:04)
with all these sirens around us. have no idea what's going on now, but maybe that will be our next episode. ⁓ But before we go, you wanted to mention Alana's. yeah. Your new favorite hotspot in Venice. So I am a coffee snob.

Sandy Clark (25:04)
With all these sirens around us, have no idea what's going on. Maybe that will be on next episode. But before we go, you want to mention a long list. Oh yeah. So I am a coffee snob.

Chuck E (25:20)
And whenever I travel, I am always looking like, where's the best latte? And that means what kind of oat milk do they offer?

Sandy Clark (25:20)
And whenever I travel, I am always looking like, where's the best latte? And that means what kind of oat milk do they offer?

Chuck E (25:31)
I'm talking about everywhere. So I know where to get a really good latte in Scotland, in London, in Rome, of course. But Alana's just opened right near the canals and Alana's is so great. It's just got a great vibe. You can sit outside. They have really good Wi-Fi

Sandy Clark (25:31)
I'm talking about everywhere. So I know where to get a really good latte in Scotland, in London, in Rome, of course. But Alana's just opened right near the canals and Alana's is so great. It's just got a great vibe. You can sit outside, have really good wifi.

Chuck E (25:49)
and you can sit inside. You can sit outside their shade. The coffee is really good. And I'm so happy because I can just walk there and it's

Sandy Clark (25:49)
and you can sit inside, can sit outside, there's shade, the coffee's really good and I'm so happy because I can just walk there and it's

Chuck E (26:00)
Just a great place to hang out. So if you're visiting or if you live here, go to Alana's and you will not be disappointed with what they have to offer. Okay. Well, on that note, we're going to say goodbye. Hit the subscribe button as they say and share this and

Sandy Clark (26:00)
just a great place to hang out. So if you're visiting or if you live here, go to Alana's and you will not be disappointed with what they have to offer. Okay, well on that note, we're going to take a while to get this going, but as I say, then shout this in.

And then another episode we're going to give you tips on when you come to Venice as a tourist, what to do.

Chuck E (26:19)
thanks for staying with us this long. Yeah. And in another episode, we're going to give you tips on when you come to Venice as a tourist, what to do. Well, that can be the next time.

Bye.