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From Ballot Boxes To Hollywood Boulevard; Venice Pulse

Chuck and Sandy Season 1 Episode 28

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From Ballot Boxes To Hollywood Boulevard; Venice Pulse

This week Sandy, Chuck & Jim discuss California’s recent Election Day, diving deep on LA voting centers and why California's vote counting process can take so long. Meanwhile, Sandy reflects on casting her first vote as a new U.S. citizen and what the experience meant to her.

The conversation then wanders from local politics to Hollywood history, including Mann's Chinese Theatre, celebrity handprints, classic movie memories, and a review of the new Jack Johnson documentary. It's a classic Venice Pulse mix of current events, local culture, and unexpected detours.

Venice Pulse is a podcast focusing on Venice Beach and beyond. It is hosted by Venice residents Sandy Clark and Chuck Whobrey. Sandy has been on the cutting edge of both written and televised journalism for the last 30 years. Her credits include NHK, CBC, ABC, BBC, AMI (various publications), the Daily Mail and the Westside Current. 

Originally from the UK, Chuck was once on the BBC's Newsnight talking about "Ecstasy". Besides that, he has no qualifications whatsoever when it comes to hosting a current affairs type show! 

Jim Buck used to host a cultural radio show on WBAI New York. He now resides in Los Angeles where he is a full-time writer and part-time political commentator. 

Intro Music: "Trip" by DJ Nick "Feesch" Wilson 

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We are live. We are farmers. Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun.

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We are. Sandy.

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Chucky.

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We are farmers.

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Jimmy.

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Yes. Sandy.

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Hi.

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Chucky. Uh so let's get straight to it. Uh first podcast of the summer. Uh it's been almost a week, and they are still counting the votes in the LA elections.

SPEAKER_00

That's weird.

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Is it LA or California?

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I think they're vo counting your vote. Did you vote by mail? I dropped it in the box a week before Election Day.

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Does that count as voting by mail? No. I don't think so. I think mail has to go in a post office. I think that's the legal definition, but I may be wrong.

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Okay, so what's the deal?

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Well, I dropped it in the uh drop off.

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No, no, no. I mean, what's the deal with it taking so long? Oh, I have no idea.

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Okay, they reckon it's the mail-in voters. Oh, really? That's why it's taking so long.

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Aaron Powell But if it's uh postmarked, is this something that uh DeJoy or what the hell is his name? The guy who's in charge of the Postmaster General? There was some uh tidbit of information that he was going to sabotage uh mail-in voting, and uh is this a part of it? Is anybody off of that as a theory?

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Aaron Powell Well I have no idea, but it's the postmaster general particular just to California or something.

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So he's a good thing. But he could he could call the shots for California if he wanted to. Trevor Burrus, Jr.

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Well, is he Democrat-Republican?

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No, he's he's a bad guy.

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Well, he's not doing a good job.

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He's independent.

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I guess there is that class. You know why he's not doing a good job? Because it was supposed to be like Spencer Pratt and Bass.

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Uh-huh.

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Okay, now Ramen.

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Oh, yeah. Flip-flop and ramen?

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Yeah, she's now like surpassed Spencer Pratt. How is that possible?

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Oh, I have no idea. I I know nothing about them except for the uh commercial uh flip-flop and ramen where they ask her uh does she still support defunding the police, and she awkwardly says no.

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So Well, I just think it's weird going back to the counting, you know.

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Mm-hmm. Yeah, no, I don't like it.

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Why does it take so long?

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I have no idea. But if it's about the mail-in voting, it's uh postmark, isn't it? Yeah, well. Postmark was the second. This is the uh I don't know.

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Something about they have some center where it all ends up in the city of industry and they have to wait for the mail-in votes. Uh and that's why it's taking so long. And then Well, come on to that. Uh and then So Trump is saying it's all corrupt because all the later votes that are coming in are now democratic votes. Uh which I guess would explain why Spencer Pratt suddenly went from being high up to not being high up anymore. But at the same time, you're in California, so most of the votes are going to be democratic votes anyway.

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Yeah. I mean, the guy never really had a chance of winning, did he?

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I think he did.

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He did?

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Mm-hmm.

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In Los Angeles?

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Mm-hmm. Well, yeah, definitely because people are so fed up with the Democrats in Los Angeles.

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But I think that uh some I know nothing really about the guy other than what is he, a podcaster or something? Frogcaster? Well, he Frogcasters.

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He is uh pro-animal rights. Uh-huh. So that's why I like him. Uh-huh.

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So he got your vote?

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He got my vote based on based on animals and and his stance on that. And this was the first time I voted.

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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Stop press stop. Dun dun dun, fanfare, dun dun dun dun dun. So our ex-Canadian. Not ex. Now US. Now proud United States American over there voted. That's right. Voted in this country for the first time. That's right. Oh, really?

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Oh, that's right. You're not allowed to vote.

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Unless you're a citizen.

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So there I was.

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Now you're gonna do jury duty.

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I don't mind. I think it'd be fun.

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Really? Yeah.

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But anything to get you out of the house.

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To write a story about it for uh I found myself uh, you know, there voting it because I wanted to go and actually experience it. Uh-huh. I didn't know who three-quarters of the people were. And then when I was looking them up, I I just I couldn't understand much. Right. Except so I saw who um, you know, who was recommending them, um, and that helped. But I wish that there was some sort of app or some resource where I could find out uh how they felt about animals. Because that's how to base all my votes.

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Oh, well I actually that's interesting. That's what you base your votes on. Um, because what do you base your votes on?

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Well, I'm in Culver City, so I'm not even involved in uh Bass or Pratt or whatever.

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No, no, but it's I I'm a very criteria?

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Yeah. Uh somebody who's going to protect my social security. Okay. Which, as far as mayorship goes, is is not even anything they can do.

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See, but I'm even broader than that. So basically there's 39 names on the ballot, right, in LA County.

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Uh-huh.

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So, and I have to say, like Sandy over here, I probably knew maybe three or four of them. You probably know a bit more because you kind of are involved in this a bit more. But my criteria is basically Democrat, female, foreign. If they tick all those boxes, then I'll vote. Now I'm sure that there's some bad people who might have got through with my system. So well, you know Well uh go go on.

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I'm basically a Democrat. Uh I have been since I was 10 years old in 1968. I was putting Humphrey Muskie bumper stickers on cars that did not have them. Uh so that's my experience with uh uh as far back as the Democratic Party. That doesn't mean that I'm uh a happy Democrat, but you know, I would vote for Democrat uh before I would vote for Republican, unless. And I, you know, don't know what the unless would be right now. But uh yeah, well, Spencer Pratt, that could be an unless What does the uh word Pratt mean in Britain? It's a baby fish. Oh, okay. So somebody who prattles on?

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Is that uh Are you referring to me now on this part? No.

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Well I was actually going to a Monty Python thing, but it didn't get that far.

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Aaron Powell What what did the Romans ever do for us? Yeah, yeah.

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Something like that. What did uh bass ever do for us?

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Trevor Burrus But it also is an English uh slang like for someone to pratic.

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That was what I was hoping your response would be. Yeah. But uh we got there anyway. So um yeah.

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So when are we gonna hear? When are we gonna get the results? Trevor Burrus, Jr.

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Somebody should give an answer. We should be able to to to know six days out.

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Aaron Ross Powell All right. How long has it been?

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It's been six days. Six days. You know? Oh, it'll be seven tomorrow. And uh that's long enough for uh any postmark mail to be run through a uh uh a counter or whatever they are. I don't even know how they count them by hand or is it through a machine? I had to ink uh a circle and make sure that I got all the the circle covered in black uh to help the machine count my votes.

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Yeah.

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Because I didn't want to be a bad citizen. Oh, okay. This is before you put it in the ballot. In the sorry, in the ballot box. Yeah, yeah, filling it out and then put it in the uh envelope and then seal it and sign it and date it and then put it in the box outside the library. So there you go.

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There's a one, two, three of those. That's that's all that's all you need. So I um worked in a voting center for uh duration.

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So you confiscated all the Republican votes?

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Yeah, I was just standing at the door. Is that what's in that box over there on the uh Yeah, yeah. And I've got another box on the back seat of my car. No, you know, it's really interesting actually, because at the end of the day, uh you don't even think about it, but they the machines open up machines, they get the ballots out, they go into these secure boxes, and then the boxes were taken off, taken to actually Santa Monica Civic Center. That's not good. Well, they're and then they're taken downtown, I think, or somewhere. But I would say that well, based on the checks we were doing California is the safest voting system I've well, I don't have anything to compare it to, but my God, it would be difficult to uh commit any kind of fraud. So what were your duties? Well well, I was actually tech support. So if the machines started playing our top dog voting machines? Yeah. Well the yeah, the Don't say that out loud. Yeah, the epole books, the what are they called? The UN Ebola parks? Epole books.

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I thought you said Ebola parks. That's been on my mind recently.

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No. No, it's all very straightforward. It's all very well done, but they have these things called chain of custody where you're constantly having to uh a number of times a day verify that the equipment's there, the equipment's working, uh it hasn't been tampered with, it hasn't been messed with. So if anything untoward happened at any point, they'd be able to pinpoint right down the machine, the time. You know, they they that it's really difficult to uh mess with that vote. So when Trump sits there and says, um oh, there's fraud in California, I'm just like bollocks. You have well, you know, they might take a long time to count the votes, but really it's just like I don't think so.

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Yeah. Tim, whatever his last name was, uh, was saying uh yesterday that um California is essentially handing uh election deniers uh a gift by taking so long, because they can use that as an opportunity to invent all kinds of conspiracies. And you know, if if it's not resolved, if it's an open wound or an open issue, uh then maybe there's a chance the conspiracy theories stick.

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You know?

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Aaron Ross Powell, Jr.

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I think it's just so snowballs. Yeah. Like if it if we don't vote a certain way, then it's it's rigged. And if it's the other way, then it's not rigged. Or give me a break.

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Aaron Powell I'm not even sure though quite why they had this election, because it all seems to be that you're people are just vying for places to then vote for the midterms in November.

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Aaron Powell It's a vote for the general election. Yeah. In the state of California elections, it's uh, you know, not a midterm, it's the election to elect the governor who takes over in January, and I guess the mayor is uh sworn in in January also.

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Yeah, but that happens in November.

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Yeah, the general election. Yeah. Yeah. So why this is the jungle primary.

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Yeah. This is Oh, that's what they call it.

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Yeah. You just crowd people into uh seems like a lot of effort. It is. And it shouldn't be.

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But you gotta weed you gotta weed people out. Because there's so many people. There's some you see all those people running for governor.

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Yes. And uh that was because Eric Swalwell uh got uh you just don't hear from him anymore, do you? I wonder why. But um because he got found out, you know, he was essentially a shoe-in, I think a lot of people believed. And I I would have voted for him, but I, you know, it changed. So anyway, uh thirty-nine people off ballot. We were not electing a uh a U.S. senator in this uh jungle primary, and we won't be electing a U.S. Senator from California in in the general you know, but I don't know who your Ted Lew is your representative here?

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Hold on. When's the when's it gonna be 28 or 30 then? When's the next when are we next electing a senator?

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Well, they stagger uh but every six years, but there wasn't one this uh twenty-six, so I don't know. Was it uh Schiff?

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Yeah.

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And uh Padilla was uh eighteen, so maybe twenty-four? I yeah, it would have had to have been twenty-four if it's not twenty-six.

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I gotta interrupt. Sheriff. Who'd you vote for?

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I think I voted for Robert Luna.

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Okay.

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I think he's already the sheriff. I went away with people who have experience and that I haven't heard they're corrupt or, you know, I don't know. Beating up people.

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I just look what party they were, whether they were female or not, and if they had a foreign name.

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Are you tore those boxes or you had a preference for a female?

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Female foreign foreign name. They would get my if I didn't know what I was voting for So do you ask if the woman the foreign foreign name would be a non-English sounding name? Yes.

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And if it was Democrat if they if I hadn't had no idea if they if it was a woman So how do you justify your vote for the uh for the mayor of whatever town that was that uh moved a third of the homeless people out of the state?

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Oh San Jose.

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Yeah. What's his name? Mayhem, yeah.

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Oh, because I actually saw him. I knew you saw a commercial? He he looked like a young guy with a forehead of hair.

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Well, yeah. You know, I guess.

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And I thought he was on, but obviously he's out of the race.

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Well, I I don't think he had a chance. And that's the problem with this kind of uh well, maybe it's the same type problem with the regular uh primary. Trevor Burrus, Jr.

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But I thought though that this is I thought he was like one of these new young ones like the guy in Texas. You know, there's all this America? Yeah, there's all this kind of breed of uh youngsters coming up. The young rebels. The young rebels seem to be taking over politics. So I just assumed he was one of those. Yeah. Our our own little one we can kind of hope hold on the Western.

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He may have a future in California politics, but uh I certainly don't know. Yeah.

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Uh well I didn't vote for the English guy, let's put it like that.

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Aaron Ross Powell No. His name uh suggests uh sex tapes, you know. Uh Paris Hilton.

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I'm sure uh you know he used to be David Cameron's advisor. Yeah. David Cameron, of course, who famously was the British Prime Minister who uh introduced Brexit.

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And did he resign in disgrace sometime later?

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Yeah. Well when they lost Brexit, Cameron was like, oh, well, I better go. You know? Okay. In his defense, though, Cameron was anti-Brexit and he just thought, well, no one's gonna vote for this. So uh the silly party. Yeah. The silly party. Yeah. So there we go. So one thing I did want to say though, working in the voting center was um it's amazing that you've had this mail-in voting ballot boxes for like a couple of weeks or so. Plus you had some places you could go eleven days before and vote. You had an election center I was at that was open for four days, yet of all the people who voted, something like 50% of the people who came to the election center arrived in the hour before a closing on the final day of voting.

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What, just gotten off work or God knows.

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Well, it closed at eight o'clock. So they got there between seven and eight PM.

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Oh wow.

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I would say, hold on, there was something like first day wasn't a lot. There was like sort of 50 voters, sixty voters, a hundred and fifty voters, and then something like the fourth final day, there was something like six hundred voters. Wow. And I would say that three or four hundred of those turned up in the last hour.

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Was there a line?

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Yeah, there was a line outside. Wow. I was quite proud. I thought, oh.

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So what's the difference between election center and a poll? A polling.

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It sounds like a joke from the 70s.

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Yeah.

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A polling center. I think it's the same.

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Okay. Why is it called an election center then? Is that uh Did I say Election Center? Is that a you know?

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No, I do you know what? Okay, okay, okay. We're we're talking My headphones are uh They're all right.

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You still hearing? I mean I heard Election Center.

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It has Google translating them. Well, I can move my map. Yeah. And you're hearing the ventriloquist standard. No, it's funny actually. I gotta keep reminding myself they're called voting centers here, aren't they?

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I thought they were polling places. I've never I mean voting is what happens, but Okay.

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Well that officially, I know this because I was working there. Right. It's voting center. Okay. So I've kind of got that in my head. But before then, I was calling it like a polling station. So how did you get this job?

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You just called up and said, Hey, I want to look at it.

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No, he had to apply.

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I was just He was chosen. I was the chosen one. I was looking at I was looking at Google one day, like you do, and it just popped up. Or maybe I was on Facebook or something. It said, Do you want to be an election worker? Um good pay. Oh, seriously? Something like that. Oh, yeah, that has to be a good thing. Minimum wage? A little bit more than that. $27 an hour? Well, I wouldn't like to never you won't even Never ask a man his his age or his weight.

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Or his religion.

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Oh, never ask a woman her age or her weight.

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Ooh. Yeah.

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It's rude.

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Exactly.

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Exactly.

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So um what made you want to do this?

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Because it's fine. Wow, yeah. I just thought it'd be interesting. Okay. Topic for the podcast? Yeah, and look at some politics and stuff.

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Plus he's technical and detail-oriented.

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But I had to do like an online training thing, which I passed. Then I had to go to Whittier. Have you ever been to Whittier?

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No, I have a friend who lives out there.

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I'll tell you what, if you're living in LA and you want to go to the Midwest, but you can't afford to get to the Midwest. Go to Whittier? Just drive out to Whittier. Is it flat? It's very flat. It's very open. It's very um It's probably like Bakersfield. It's very hot, very bleak. But you know what? In Whittier's defense, I could say there's parts of Venice and Culver City that are just like that as well.

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Yeah.

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So you know It's not quite the dream here on the West Coast, is it?

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Four years ago in October. Trevor Burrus, Jr.

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Well, you can't beat the weather.

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That's basically um That's never an issue. No. Well, except when it rains so hard it knocks out the electricals in my car.

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I've actually had friends come out here and they're all a bit disappointed when they first get here. Because in England, in rainy England, you think Venice beach. I mean, if you wanted two more if you wanted two more beautiful words to put together and then they come here and it's like May Grey or June Gloom and they're walking down the boardwalk surrounded by homeless people, they're like, this isn't this isn't the picture of paradise I had when I was sitting in England.

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You uh put on the um um suggestions for the layout or the run-through uh Man's Chinese Theater, and I remember Hollywood. I lived in Hollywood, Hollywood in La Brea. Uh back from 1997, I think it was, uh up to I worked and lived on Hollywood Boulevard, up to uh 2017. And there was a period of time when I just would go out for a walk down Hollywood Boulevard, past the Chinese theater, all the way out to um Vine, and then go on the south side of the street and walk back, and it was just rubbing shoulders with danger to an extent. It's like when I lived in New York City. Oh, really? Yeah. Well, to an extent. Uh when I lived in New York City uh and I lived in Hell's Kitchen uh and worked on 45th between 5th and 6th, I would go uh walk around I guess I could say it. I I used to get stoned and go walk around Times Square. And this was before Disney. This was before Giuliani. Yeah and there were the pimps and the prostitutes and that element of danger.

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Uh I think it seems more dangerous now.

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Really?

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With the crazy people dressed up in costumes and furry?

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Well, on those two furries?

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Not furries, but it's just like Disneyland.

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Go. You gotta let the furry thing go. You got mugged by Goofy? Yeah.

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It's just there's they're it I can imagine. So a quick so a quick interjection here.

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Uh so Sandy and I took Alexander to see um the new Jack Johnson documentary, Surfall Music. Uh, and we went to Man's Chinese Theatre.

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That was fun.

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To see it. And that was the first time I'd been there for about 30, 40 years. You could look this up.

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Really?

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I will I will give you a hundred dollars right now if you can tell me what I saw there. Ooh. 2026 at Space Art or something? No, no. Eddie Murphy coming to America. Really?

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Well, that's certainly not first time, is it?

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So I don't know. So whatever year that came out. Wait, did you see it in the big space? Well, no, this is this is a funny thing. So I remember, so you know how you've got the kind of four the patio bit out front. Yeah. And then you've got the doors. Right. I remember going through those doors and there being a lobby and then walking into a cinema. But that's not the case at all. We now had to go upstairs and in the background.

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Yeah, it's probably a little bit different.

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So I don't know if it's changed or if just my memories of it are wrong.

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It was still fun to go and what's the oldest? Who's the first person to put their handprints and footprints in the God.

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Okay. Jesus. Do you know what? It's interesting you say that because I looked this up. I was talking with my good friend ChatGBT earlier. And well I was looking at the dates.

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1929?

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1927. Really?

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Who was it?

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Mary Pickford. You got it. You got it. There you go. You know more silent.

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You just absorb these things. Pollution. Well, it's not like pollution.

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But there is an asterisk next to that. I'm gonna read this to you. Uh silent film actress Norma Talmadge. Oh, you heard of it.

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She was the girlfriend of somebody or wife of somebody.

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Charlie Chapman. Okay, we'll get this. Norma, good old Norma, was visiting the theater during construction in 1927 and accidentally stepped into one.

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Oh yeah.

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So local legend has it that she's actually the first person who's ever left the street. Oh, I love that. In front of the uh in front of the uh I didn't see Charlie Chaplin's name. Is he there?

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I don't know.

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He would have to have been. Okay, here he goes.

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Okay, another pub quiz. Guess who the most recent person is who's put a footprint or a handprint in the forecourt?

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Um Donald Trump Jr.

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Oh God.

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We saw his star. We saw his star.

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Please never let that happen.

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Junior?

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Not Junior. No. Oh.

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Senior. No. Oh, okay. Go on. Um May last month.

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Really? Somebody was there?

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Was it last hold on? I don't know if it was May 26. May 25. Well, give us a hint.

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Scott Bale?

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Was it? I didn't expect that.

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Yeah. No, it wasn't. Who was it? Scott Bale. No, it wasn't.

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Uh Glenn Close. Oh no. What?

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I thought I heard and it just couldn't remember.

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It's taken that long.

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Well, I'll tell you what was also interesting is Johnny Depp put his hand prints and signature in there eight years before Robert De Niro. You would have thought Robert De Niro would have been in there way before. I don't know how that how it works.

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Did he have a movie out or something and they need footprints? Oh, yeah.

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Well, if the cynic, the cynic in us would say it's Hollywood pressure. This kind of coincides with big film releases.

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La La Land. The two actors, Mrian Gosling and Emma Stone, have their handprints and footprints right next to each other, and on top it says La La Land.

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Wow. What about Merrill Streep? Is she there?

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She's there.

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Okay.

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She's I'm trying to remember the year. Oh, do you know what? I can't remember the yeah. I think she was 90s. But there's basically 200 people approximately. But that includes, you know, like the Marvel people or Hunger Games. They all kind of one block together. So the franchises. Yeah. Yeah. But there's still plenty of space on the There's still plenty of space on the fringes for other people to uh at their Venice boardwalk and do a lot of things.

SPEAKER_00

But I think that's so cool. Like there, I mean they do okay. If you have your hand prints there, do you also get a star? I guess so.

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I think some people get a circle. No sun. No. But uh you're off then.

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You were drifting off then, weren't you? Yeah, I was. With the sun. So um but bringing it back.

SPEAKER_00

Oh yeah, bringing it back. It was a really, really good movie. The Jack Johnson documentary, I highly recommend it. Yeah. It I think you should see it on the big screen.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I think those days are gone. What's the price of a ticket these days for a first-run film? Is it twenty dollars? Or is that just the popcorn?

SPEAKER_00

Um yeah, that's just the popc. I think the popcorn's more than the actual movie ticket.

SPEAKER_03

How much is an average movie ticket?

SPEAKER_00

Like $16.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it is, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00

When you go to Yeah, I don't know. It depends. If you see it in XD, it's more expensive.

SPEAKER_03

Seniors, though, you get a couple of dollars off. You know, and the good thing is everyone working there are just like youngsters and they look at us and me anyway and think, oh, he's definitely a senior. So you know I am offended by not that I'm saying anything, of course.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I'm offended because I was on Instagram and it said something like if you're a senior ages 50 and above senior has a new definition now.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

First of all, they should change the name from senior to elite. Well, they like elite center like see I I went with my mom, we checked out the senior club. And I was like, it shouldn't say it's got like the stigma to it. It should just say elite club. You know, elite or uh something that is near death. You know, no no no no. It should just be something where you're revered, you know, like it is in Japan.

SPEAKER_02

It's the culture we live in.

SPEAKER_00

And um senior well, anyway, I was offended. You know, I think that's just very rude to categorize people like that. Now, had it said young people ages 50 and below, then I wouldn't have a problem with it.

SPEAKER_02

But So what if they did boomer, Gen Z, Gen X, Gen Alpha? What if they uh had those kinds of discounts? You'd have to prove your age, wouldn't you?

SPEAKER_03

How each one of those generations, how are they what do they cover? You're a baby boomer.

SPEAKER_02

I'm I'm at the end of the baby boomers, yes.

SPEAKER_03

So we're What do those cover? 20 years or 25 years or 25 years?

SPEAKER_02

The baby boomers were from 1940, maybe four or three, all the way up to 62 or something like that. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

And then what comes after that? Gen X?

SPEAKER_02

Uh that's where I get lost. I I think there's another name in uh in between. I think it's Gen X. Boomers and Gen whatever.

SPEAKER_03

Anyway, returning back sorry, I'm just interrupting.

SPEAKER_00

Returning back to the documentary? No, no, no.

SPEAKER_03

I think the elections. No. Returning back to good old Venice and things to do. It's the um World Cup.

SPEAKER_01

Oh yes.

SPEAKER_03

Ooh. Starting, well, by the time this uh is out, it already would have started. Wait, when's it start? But they basically have these fan zones, not only in um Venice, which we've spoken about before, um, but every week in Chase Burton Park, they're having a big sort of gathering where people can sit down and watch it. Watch the soccer. But what's really interesting is um Iran are gonna be playing two games at SoFi.

SPEAKER_00

They are?

SPEAKER_03

That's downtown. When did that happen? Well, it was well, when did it happen it hasn't happened yet, but it's it was decided months ago.

SPEAKER_00

Um I thought Trump put the caboosh on that.

SPEAKER_03

Well, the team are currently staying in based in Tijuana because they don't want to be based in America.

SPEAKER_00

Right.

SPEAKER_03

Which I don't really understand because they're gonna have to cross the border. Well, they're playing one game in Seattle, two in LA, so they're gonna have to cross the border three times back and forth for the games. But they're already having uh problems with their entourage entering the States, and they're some of the not the actual players, but some of the support staff are based on the biggest.

SPEAKER_02

How big is the entourage? It's gotta be at least a hundred.

SPEAKER_03

It's gotta be, yeah, or at least fifty. Well, there's twenty there's twenty-six players.

SPEAKER_00

Just let them in, geez.

SPEAKER_03

So then the coaching team's gotta be at least another fifteen, and then the admin you think's gotta be another ten or fifteen.

SPEAKER_02

Do they have a sort of diplomatic immunity?

SPEAKER_03

There's just well, yeah. You would have thought so. But our athletes.

SPEAKER_02

Well, it seems that there's got to be some something that.

SPEAKER_03

But saying that, okay, look at this. I was what was this? Um This is just today. So here's the news today. Somolean referee Arma Artan, he's one of the leading referees in Africa, you know, one of the leading featured referees in the world. Uh he basically was denied entry yesterday at Miami International Airport. So he's flown back out and he had a valid visa, and the reasons are unclear. Why he's a very good idea.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, because he didn't look the way that they wanted him to look.

SPEAKER_03

And then uh anything an Iraqi the football player, a striker for the team, he was questioned for seven hours at Chicago O'Hare. That is embarrassing.

SPEAKER_00

That that does not make me feel like a proud American. No. That's what I think. That's embarrassing.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, what are they asking him? He's quite obviously a soccer player for an international team coming to play in the World Cup. You know?

SPEAKER_00

It's just gross. It's disgusting.

SPEAKER_03

Do you know what? It reminds me a few years ago when we were flying from Denmark to um Amsterdam, England.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

And we stopped in Amsterdam. Yeah. Do you remember we the plane was delayed? I don't know if you've ever been to Amsterdam Airport, but it's one of the biggest airports in the world. And we basically had to run from one side of it to the other side to get a connecting flight. But we had to, at the same time, we had to go through thanks to bloody Brexit. Anyone watching this? But we had to go through customs. Anyway, we're sprinting. We get to customs and they say, um What are you running for? No, they didn't say that. They said, What's the purpose of your visit here? And I said, to get from gate 37 to gate two to get on a plane.

SPEAKER_02

I'll bet they've heard that a million times.

SPEAKER_03

And they were like, oh, okay then, go on then. And off we ran.

SPEAKER_00

So uh I think that's do you have any more athletes that have been detained or No, that's just what I read today.

SPEAKER_03

But um I'm sure it will probably happen. Though I'm I'm sure there will be others. So that is really sad.

SPEAKER_00

That is really awful. When is the first game?

SPEAKER_03

Wednesday. So two days from today. In Mexico City.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, in Mexico City.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, well, it's well, it's basically hosted by Canada, Mexico, and USA. Uh-huh. So the first game is Mexico versus South Africa. Okay. Which is in Mexico City.

SPEAKER_00

And then what?

SPEAKER_03

Oh, I don't know. There's 1400. You're going to go to Chase Burton Park.

SPEAKER_00

That's really fun. Go there, bring a big blanket. Chase Burton Park.

SPEAKER_03

Alexander was talking about that. Was it a Jimbochron or something?

SPEAKER_02

You watch it on the colour. Do you know what?

SPEAKER_03

Ask um television?

SPEAKER_02

Karen Bass?

SPEAKER_03

I'm not sure. She's actually going to come and sit next to you. I would hope so.

SPEAKER_00

If she comes, I'm not going.

SPEAKER_02

Well, you could at least vote for her.

SPEAKER_00

No, I'm going to heckle.

SPEAKER_03

Is she ever allowed to go on holiday again?

SPEAKER_02

I don't think so. Not where she has to get on a plane. Just in case there's a disaster to the Grand Canyon, maybe. Is that bad timing?

SPEAKER_00

And just so you know, the reason why do you know why I can't stand her?

SPEAKER_03

No.

SPEAKER_00

Because she had the final say as to where the last remaining two elephants from the LA zoo would go and retire.

SPEAKER_02

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00

And those there were offers to take in the two um aging elephants, Billy and Tina, all paid expenses to a beautiful sanctuary. Uh-huh. And instead they were sent to yet another zoo. And that's her decision? That was her decision. That sums up everything about her. Which is why I strongly, strongly dislike her for that reason. Anyway. Now going back to um Oh, I heard something. Go on. I heard that the people working at SoFi are gonna go on strike.

SPEAKER_02

For reason. FIFA.

SPEAKER_03

FIFA. For what reason? I don't know. I thought they would all be like people who are working at voting centers. They're there for these.

SPEAKER_00

Can you imagine?

SPEAKER_03

No.

SPEAKER_00

They're gonna go on strike. People are gonna walk right by them. Because they bought their tickets.

SPEAKER_03

Have you heard about this train in New York that's taking people to MetLife Stadium from I guess what?

SPEAKER_00

Manhattan?

SPEAKER_03

Union Station or something. And it's normally $12. Grand Central. Yeah. Is that it? Or Penn Penn Station. I don't believe it.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, basically two, right?

SPEAKER_03

So normally the ticket's 12 bucks, but it's gonna cost you 120 bucks.

SPEAKER_02

Well, gas prices that high?

unknown

No.

SPEAKER_02

For the train. For the train.

SPEAKER_00

It's not because it's not because of the gas prices. It's called gouging. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Well, that's happening everywhere. I put $25 in my uh car on Saturday and it only went up a quarter of a tank, and normally it goes up basically a half a tank.

SPEAKER_03

So Do you think the ceasefire with um Iran will last to our next podcast? You mean our next podcast or the one you guys just know which have been like, well, yeah, exactly. Either one.

SPEAKER_02

Well I think that this is gonna go on for a while. And uh I have no um data uh for that prediction. It's just basically instinct.

SPEAKER_03

Trump's pretty flexible though, isn't he? He's quite a few.

SPEAKER_02

Well, you know, you gotta know these things when you're a king, you know. That's a Monty Python reference. But um reference. It's uh holy grail. You have to do it.

SPEAKER_00

No, I know, but what did he say?

SPEAKER_02

Aaron Ross Powell Oh. Uh basically being flexible. What Charles just said, he's being flexible. So um you know, like I said, it could go on for a lot longer. Uh and uh I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't. Um because I I don't see easy times ahead. I see everything just becoming a lot more Well Trump's already said he doesn't care that the economy's suffering over here. He said that he said he doesn't he doesn't take into consideration that people are suffering when he's making decisions about uh the uh war with Iran or the Strait of Horror Moose being open or closed.

SPEAKER_03

Trevor Burrus Have you heard about the New York Knicks game? Oh isn't it tonight? So game three's tonight, but there's Trump talking about going, isn't he?

SPEAKER_02

Trevor Burrus And there's talk about uh them uh booing him and making his uh visit miserable so that he has to find a Well he's making it miserable for the people going because there's heightened security.

SPEAKER_00

We heard that if you're attending the game you have to show up two hours ahead.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I remember when a pain in the ass.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, when Reagan came uh to uh New York, I think it was 84 and he was at the Waldorf, they had Park Avenue closed from I think south of Grand Central, which is 42nd, all the way up to 59th Street.

SPEAKER_00

That's so dumb.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Uh and I don't think he was there for that long. So Well he's uh it's just it's funny that's the way it is, but you know, uh not to pick sides, but when Biden's motorcade went to uh the Culver City Library, you know, we were standing there uh because I was at a coffee place, uh which is where I was at when I before I came here. And you were that we were that close and uh was able to get it on video and everything. Did you touch him? Did you get to brush the side of his No, but I got I got to smell the exhaust from the beast.

SPEAKER_00

Wait, he drove by the library or stopped and went in the library?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, he went in the library.

SPEAKER_00

You did?

SPEAKER_02

I had the video. They had the library closed for three days.

SPEAKER_00

Did they clean it up?

SPEAKER_02

I suppose so. They had snipers on the roof. And uh there were people who live in the apartment building across the street who were taking photographs of the snipers on the roof and putting it on social media. Oh, that's and that pissed off the snipers. Well, of course. So they killed all of the people living in the apartment.

SPEAKER_03

So next time next time you're in the library next time you're in the library like we were last week, and someone kind of shows a gun and says he's gonna come back and kill everyone in there, you just quietly whisper in their ear that they're snipers on the roof. Trevor Burrus, Jr.

SPEAKER_02

That's what needs to happen, even if they're uh fake, like fake pigeons-fake animals for pigeons.

SPEAKER_00

I want to go back to um Trump going to the game and why it's different is because I don't think he's really ever supported the the New York Knicks. And so now all of a sudden he's going. New Yorkers don't like him.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, not only that, let me say not only that, he's had a very sort of uh fractured, fractitious, is that the word, relationship with uh the NBA? Like so, for example, when um the San Francisco team, Golden State Warriors, when they won a few years ago, they basically didn't go to the White House. Uh and since then, teams who've won the NBA haven't gone to the White House. It's a bit different with footballer, because footballer, you've got a lot of um testosterone? Yeah, testosterone sort of MAGA supporters who play football. Um, a bit more whereas NBA seems very uh They stick together too. Yeah, so the fact that it's he's like going to an NBA final, you're just like I mean I hope he does go because I think it I think that New York crowd really are gonna like it to like it. Yeah, you know? They're really gonna give it to him.

SPEAKER_00

Being met with open arms. Yeah. Uh they're not gonna say, come here, let's give you a hug. Okay, so what else just for our Venice people, our Venice peeps? Peeps. What else is going on during the FIFA games? FIFA. FIFA FIM. Okay, now I'll remember. FIFA.

SPEAKER_03

Uh what else is going on? Whoa.

SPEAKER_00

You can watch it at the beach.

SPEAKER_03

I'm sure Henano's gonna be uh it's gonna be at Venice Circle, I think, somewhere by the skateboard park. They're gonna cordon off that whole area and it's gonna become like a fan zone where you can watch the game games.

SPEAKER_00

And you can buy trinkets. Do you think a lot of people are flying here to LA to see the game?

SPEAKER_02

They won't be when they close uh the uh Los Angeles uh LAX uh to international flights. Uh that's happening soon, isn't it? Is it? Well, there was there was talk about that uh to uh leverage for uh ICE. Serious. You heard that last week? No.

SPEAKER_03

Would that happen?

SPEAKER_02

Well, I don't know if it's gonna happen, but that was a threat. There was talk of um uh companies, business people, politicians from uh other countries uh protesting or something like that. But there was talk that the FAA was going to close. Well, no, it was for international flights, because I was worried that uh maybe they would close the airport, and that's another thing that I have to worry about timing-wise uh for my uh uh soon flight. Soon flights. They're not gonna close it.

SPEAKER_03

That's that's the biggest gateway from the Asia and the Pacific. Aaron Powell Yes.

SPEAKER_02

But it was also gonna close not just LAX, but uh uh airports in in big blue cities. That's my understanding.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I just I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

To put pressure on the cities to accept uh ice in the community.

SPEAKER_03

It's an interesting idea and constantly.

SPEAKER_00

No, it's not gonna happen.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

I don't think though that many people would particularly be flying in. Not I mean the World Cup's throughout all of America, so it's not like if you live in Dallas, you can go and see a game in Dallas. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Live?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. England England are playing in Disney.

SPEAKER_02

I know nothing about uh FIFA.

SPEAKER_00

How many games here?

SPEAKER_03

FIFA. That's what I said.

SPEAKER_00

FIFA Farm.

SPEAKER_03

Well, you know, well, remember, they were the first organization to give Trump that peace award. Can you remember that? Two or three months ago. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

That whole Rigmarole. And that didn't do the trick, huh?

SPEAKER_03

Well, it's funny, those were the days when people were still giving Trump awards. Remember that woman gave a Nobel Peace Prize to Mesoel, the Venezuelan.

SPEAKER_02

I think they really regret that now, though, because I think ever since You said just now Venezuela, right? Were there any Venezuelans at the uh voting center that you saw? I don't know. Did you ask before you uh No. Before you left? Are there any Venezuelans here? Uh working there? Messing up the vote?

SPEAKER_00

No?

SPEAKER_02

No satellites? You didn't detect any satellites that were involved in counting the vote, disrupting the vote?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, Elon Musk's thing sucked.

SPEAKER_03

So you know the entire network of the votes. Uh-huh. Do you know this? The entire server is uh Elon Musk's Starlink. Oh, seriously. Seriously.

SPEAKER_00

And it broke down.

SPEAKER_03

Did it really? No, not really. Oh, okay. No. You're getting you're getting confused. Oh, okay. No. You're thinking if there's something else. Um were there any problems with Starlink at all? No.

SPEAKER_00

Do you think that's a conflict of interest?

SPEAKER_02

I think that there are certain things, yes, that are conflicts of interest and and need to be uh changed. Uh that's too edge, too close to the uh cliffs.

SPEAKER_03

It certainly makes you wonder, doesn't it, when you think all the data is going up in that at one of his portals.

SPEAKER_02

There are still people who believe that the uh 2024 election was um stolen. And it wasn't helped by uh him saying that uh don't worry about voting. You you're not gonna have to vote. Hold on. 2024 was stolen. Yeah, 2024. Stolen by who? Well, uh, Trump. Trump, yeah. There are people who believe that. Oh, right. Because of because of Starlink and uh Elon Musk's control over the technology.

SPEAKER_03

Trevor Burrus, you've got to think about it though. Think because he's he's had complete access to Doge, right? Yeah. So he basically probably got every all the info he needed and then got out. Well, he's got everybody's social security number. It's got all the votes. You know?

SPEAKER_02

He's got everybody's personal information. So I um I don't know what to expect, but I don't put anything past.

SPEAKER_03

Maybe you should send him an email. Say, Dear Elon, you you you have all you have my social security number and all my details. Can you please deposit some money into my account?

SPEAKER_02

Exactly. Can you please put an asterisk by my social security number? Hashtag works both ways. Not to be disruptive. No, it's um it's a very scary thing, and uh I don't like it. But um nothing really I can do, you know. I mean, there's really not much many of us can do.

SPEAKER_03

Aaron Ross Powell You can write. That doesn't do any good.

SPEAKER_02

Do you know how many times I've written uh my um congresspersons? 133. Uh let me tell you something. There are uh third parties which are uh nonprofits and they have the technology. Trevor Burrus Oh, and they respond? They'll respond to those letters that I write using that technology, and they typically will not respond to an email that I will send them on their website.

SPEAKER_00

Oh.

SPEAKER_02

So what that says to me is they're not taking citizens who are unaffiliated with a a nonprofit that's nationally recognized or a campaign contributor, uh, than they will me. And as I was telling Charles earlier, you know, I've I've signed up for their news. Newsletters, and I have yet to receive a newsletter, and I've signed up many times.

SPEAKER_00

So I think you should just call.

SPEAKER_02

Am I on a but you call. See, I called uh Schiff's office and wanted the uh email address of the um public relations person, the spokesperson, because I wanted to find out what he thought about uh First Amendment protection for voting. And she wouldn't give me the uh email address, but she did take my name and number and said that there would be somebody getting back to me, and somebody never did. And then I called the next time and it went straight to voicemail. I called a time after that and went straight to voice. Just keep calling.

SPEAKER_00

Keep being annoying.

SPEAKER_02

Well, no, that that part of my life is uh or my work is uh over, as I was telling Charles.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I'm gonna start doing that to everybody.

SPEAKER_03

So do you feel liberated and happy now? Or just no. I'm on to another stressful situation. Yes.

SPEAKER_02

Uh abused uh by the powers that be. And uh But the library is still crap. And the library is uh yeah, various uh times it's uh crap, and sometimes it's better, and uh just trying to fit in the rhythm. Right. Uh so cool. I hope so. All right. I keep going.

SPEAKER_03

We're well, uh what else? I think I think that's probably about it, isn't it? Do you have anything to add? I've thought I've got I've got a list here, and we seem to have covered it all. Everything on this list. Uh I wish we were live. We could have people call in. Couldn't we?

SPEAKER_02

Or at least uh have read read comments like some people uh do on their podcast. Oh yeah, I think live casting or whatever. So yeah. People are commenting.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, any questions, yeah. Comment and we'll address them in the next episode. Put them in the we were we were thinking actually of doing it's kind of halfway through the year almost now. We were thinking of doing a live stream on New Year's Eve.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, wow. We were?

SPEAKER_03

Well, yeah. Well, remember that New Year's Eve coverage in California is just the worst.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah, let's do it.

SPEAKER_03

It's just the worst so bad.

SPEAKER_00

We were like, okay, I get it, because we had a lot of comments like, well, go out then. Like, why are you staying at home? Well, a lot of people stay home, you know? And they want to feel connected. Like, I like to watch TV to see what's happening in different parts of the world. I find that really fascinating. I don't want to get in my car and drive with a bunch of lunatics. No. But but we turn the TV on. There was nothing except a country show.

SPEAKER_03

After nine o'clock, you basically see you see the New Year's celebration at nine in New York, right? It's like it's over because it's soon as it's done in New York, it's done. That's it. Everything just shuts down here. So midnight here, midnight this year on New Year's Eve was some god-awful country and western band playing at a casino in Vegas. Oh, really? Seeing in the New Year. That was the New Year coverage.

SPEAKER_00

And they stopped. Was CNN like just done? I guess it was a repeat.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, they were they repeat it. They basically read it.

SPEAKER_00

It's just not live, and there's it's a difference between watching, you know, what they showed three hours ago versus something live and something happening. I know they have everything is Times Square, but why don't they have something in LA? And and why don't they get rid of all the fireworks? Is what I want to know.

SPEAKER_03

Well, there you go.

SPEAKER_00

No fireworks. I'm so over fireworks.

SPEAKER_02

I think New Year's died with Guy Lombardo. And for people who are too uh young to remember Guy Lombardo, maybe then uh New Year's died with Dick Clark. I certainly don't remember Guy Lombardo. Maybe you do do? I don't. I don't. You don't? No. I don't even know who that is. You guys aren't that much younger than me. Yeah, well, you know, well, he was a band leader who uh was famous throughout uh, I don't know, maybe beginning in the twenties, and he died in 1978, and uh even Saturday Night Live uh in 1978 uh I think paid tribute to him in a New Year's uh song or something like that. So yeah. He was big time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Well, we might do a live stream this year.

SPEAKER_00

Unless you would like to invite us to one of your New Year's Eve parties, just leave a comment, your information, the address, the time.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I was gonna say I was gonna say if we do a live stream this year, we could have Jim on. But the risk is that would be cutting our audience down by the I would be asleep. Well, that's the other thing. Okay, okay, yeah. Okay, there is another side to this, okay, which I'm not saying. Is the one good thing about celebrating New Year's Eve at 9 p.m. here is as soon as you've seen it in New York, you're like, great, I can go to bed. Yeah. It's inevitable.

SPEAKER_02

Midnight's coming, the New Year's coming. Let me just wake up for it. Yeah. So Okay.

SPEAKER_00

All right. Well, uh hopefully we'll find out who's gonna win.

SPEAKER_02

Well, it would be nice if they at least.

SPEAKER_00

Not who's gonna win, but who's gonna who will is gonna who are gonna be the top contenders?

SPEAKER_02

Javier Becerra is already confirmed for uh the general uh for governor. Beyond that, I have no clue.

SPEAKER_00

Aaron Powell And what about Hilton?

SPEAKER_02

Uh he may be, but I don't know that I've not heard that he's confirmed yet. Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Uh can I just say actually that uh I'm sure there's people who could uh empathize? Is that the right word with me here? But Sandy is one of these people who if you're ever at a party with and it's time to leave, you have to give her about an hour to say goodbye to everybody to everybody. So we had the perfect moment then we were gonna go like, well, okay, that's it. And all she had to do was say goodbye. But then, no, we've got to find out who's gonna vote or whatever. And no and anyone watching this just doesn't care. But I think she has a point. Well, let's try again. Anyway, go on, say your point.

SPEAKER_02

It would be nice if they gave us an estimated day as to when they're gonna release the information.

SPEAKER_00

I agree, and on that note rather than just leaving us hanging. Adios.

SPEAKER_02

Goodbye, goodbye, bye.