The Mighty Men - Part 2

Join us today for Part Two of The Mighty Men series! Christian and Evan talk about the importance of keeping our promises, when NOT to make them, and everything in-between. How can you be a Mighty Man in today's society? Well, we have some of those insights for you in this series. 

Thanks for tuning in, and remember to send in those Davakim ideas for our next episode! Send them in fast and furious!

Transcript

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Hello everyone and welcome back to the Second Chance Podcast. My name is Evan.

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And my name is Christian.

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And we are going to be talking about today. Well, actually, no, I shouldn't say that first. I should say this is the second episode in our series called Mighty Men. That's right. And we are going to be talking about promises.

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Promises.

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Keeping them, making them in the first place, not keeping them. Mm-hmm. The do's and don'ts of promise making. Yeah, pretty much.

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And then, you know, really, when you think of it, um, like in today's society, we're surrounded by broken promises. That's sad. Yeah, I know. We're going to toss that out there. Uh but it's true, right? We are. We're surrounded by broken promises. We're surrounded by, um, you know, really in our society today, we have one of the highest divorce rates ever, right? Um, and you know, you have um, you know, people saying we'll do one thing when they don't. And so, really, as mighty men, we want to combat that the biblical way, and how is it that we can keep our promises uh the godly way?

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This is what we will discuss. Yeah. Would you like to recap our last episode, our first episode of series?

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Yeah, definitely. So um, last episode uh we were in Mark and uh we were talking about um you know what it is to be a mighty man of God. And um by the way, just a quick shout out uh to Gord. Gord, uh one of our uh faithful listeners, revealed the name of the movie that I could not uh say last one because I just kept blanking on it. It's War of the Worlds. Yeah. By uh with Tom Cruise in it. That's one of the aliens going right, sucking people up.

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Glenn commented on one of our posts as well, saying the same thing. Oh, really? Shout out to Glenn.

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Awesome, sweet. Yeah, we love you guys. And um also just today as well, more of on a solemn note, um, we just wanted to give a thank you to um a former student of mine, his his family, um, and a shout out to him. Now uh he passed away, and so we just want to honor one of our listeners. Uh, his name was Preston Stock, um, and uh on Spotify, he was one of the first ones that actually commented on our first uh very first episode. And uh I actually had the privilege uh of teaching him for a year uh at our school anchor academy, and uh tragically he passed away there uh in a like an accident. So um we just want to give a shout out to his family. We love you guys, praying for you in this very difficult time, and uh in memory of Preston, um this episode uh is dedicated to you because I believe that was a mighty young man. Indeed. So uh today uh where we're gonna be going is we really have two things that we're gonna be talking about. Uh the first one is actually gonna be in the book of Judges. Yep. And the second one is gonna be in the book of Samuel, and the book of Judges, uh, listeners, is a very interesting book, mainly because it's the time after the Exodus. The Israelites are in the promised land. Joshua, who took over after Moses, is now gone, and it starts a time. Uh Evan's actually going to read it, uh, but it starts at a time period of where people did everything that was right in their own eyes. And the throughout the book, it's actually said multiple times. Uh, I don't have the exact scripture there, but it talks about that men would go ahead and do what they thought uh that it was right to do. Which is not always a good thing. No, most definitely. Um, and uh there's uh uh also a theme that keeps coming back around uh over and over and over, and that is the Israelites did evil in the Lord's sight. This is in Judges 3. Uh they forgot about uh the Lord their God, and they served the images of Baal and the Ashrath Poles. And what's interesting with that, Evan, is that pretty much how the book of Judges works is that there's it the Israelites are suffering. God sends a judge, a person to come and deliver them. He does. You in and well, actually, there was was was a female one, uh Deborah, but uh there's these judges, and they come, they deliver the people, there's peace, and then rinse and repeat. They go back into their sins, they go back into we know better. Such is the way of the world, indeed, and then another judge comes along. So uh, but we're gonna be focusing though on promises today, and Judges 11 is about what not to do. 100%. Um, so just before Evan reads, uh, in verse 29, uh there is a guy named Jeppaneth, and I'm 100% probably pronounced that wrong.

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Jephthah Jephthah?

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Jephthah let's do let's yours sounds way better. J-E-P-H-T-H-A-H. Jephthah. Jephthah. Jephthah. I think say that ten times fast. Jeptah, Jepha, Jeptah Jeptah Jepta, Jeptah. Okay, so Jeptah, um, he becomes a judge of Israel, and it says in verse one, uh, he was a great warrior, uh, but his mother was a prostitute, and so because of that, he is actually, I'm not gonna read this now, but he was actually shunned by his other brothers, and they tell him to go away, get off the property. You're not getting any share of the estate, you're the son of a prostitute, even though they're half-brothers with him.

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Interesting.

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Yeah, and then uh a war happens, yeah, and they realize what a great warrior is, so they ask him to come back, and he does come back, and when he arrives, he makes a promise or a vow.

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I see, I see. And you take us away, bro. Okay. So I'm picking up on verse twenty-nine, and we're going up to forty. Then the spirit of the Lord was upon Jephthah, and he passed through Gilead and Manasseh, and passed on to Mho Mizpah of Gilead, and from Mizpah of Gilead he passed on to the Ammonites. And Jephthah made a vow to the Lord and said, If you will give the Ammonites into my hand, then whatever comes out from the doors of my house to meet me when I return in peace from the Ammonites shall be the Lord's, and I will offer it up as a burnt offering. Already that sounds a bit risky, but okay.

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And by the way, Evan, you haven't read this before in the Bible. No. So this is fresh for you. Yep. Cool. I can't wait to see what your reaction is gonna be.

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Okay. Keep going. So Jeptah crossed over to the Ammonites to fight against them, and the Lord gave them into his hand. Okay. And he struck them from Aror to the neighborhood of Mineth, twenty cities, and as far as Abel Karimim with a great blow. So the Ammonites were subdued before the people of Israel. Then Jephthah came to his home at Mitzpah, and behold, his daughter came out Oh no. Okay, hang on. Then she Yikes. Alright. Then Jephthah came to his home at Mitzpah, and behold, his daughter came out to meet him, with tambourines and with dances. She was his only child. Besides her, he had neither son nor daughter. And as soon as he saw her, he tore his clothes and said, Alas, my daughter, you've brought me very low, and you have become the cause of great trouble to me, for I have opened my mouth to the Lord, and I cannot take back my vow. Yikes. And she said to him, My father, you have opened your mouth to the Lord. Do to me according to what has gotten out of your mouth. Now that the Lord has avenged you on your enemies, on the Ammonites. So she said to her father, Let this thing be done for me. Leave me alone two months that I may go up and down on the mountains and weep for my virginity, and I I and my companions. So he said, Go. Then he sent her away for two months, and she departed, she and her companions, and wept for her virginity on the mountains. Okay. And at the end of two months she returned to her father, who did with her according to his vow that he had made. She'd never known a man, and it became a custom in Israel that the daughters of Israel went year by year to lament the daughter of Jephthah the Gile Gileadite for four days in a year.

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Well then, that's rough, isn't it? Yeah. Um let's unpack it. Yeah. Okay. So he goes out to fight. Yep. And he makes a vow. If you help me win, God, whatever's coming out of that house, I don't know if he was thinking it was gonna be a goat or a sheep or some I'm assuming it was something along those lines. Probably. But we don't fully know because in this time period, um human sacrifice was common, and we know that yes, he's calling out to God there. It's a very brash thing to say, and we don't know if he was fully devoted to the Lord, right? We just know that he called out to the Lord. Yeah. Um, but um regardless though, uh, you know, I heard someone say to me before that, you know, they thought that he very well knew it could have been a servant coming out. Obviously, yeah. Because in again, in those time periods, human sacrifice was uh was a part of society, which is bizarre. Yeah, okay. Um yeah. What time period was this? So this is after Moses and the Exodus. So this is before King David. Okay. It's a time, if you could if I could summarize it in like a couple of words, it's a time of consistent lawlessness. Very good. There's no king and people are just doing what they think is right while also trying to sort of follow the Lord. Okay. This is this is the time this is just after Gideon. Okay. This is right in that time period. Right on. Yeah. And um, you know, so really the way I take that, Evan, is don't make promises that are foolish.

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That's like going all in on your poker hand without even looking at your cards. Yeah. That's brutal.

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Yeah. And it's one of those things, quite sadly, that you know, it costs the life of his daughter, his only daughter. Yeah. Um, and uh so anyway, this is and I say that because when we think of like in our society today as men, right, I really feel that if I tell someone that I'm going to to to show up, right, then I should show up. I also feel that if I um you know, there's certain things also that that I you just shouldn't promise. And you know, that was evidently one of them. And now this is a vow as well, right? Yeah. And um, you know, so yeah, it's uh it's a it's a very blunt reminder to be careful with what you say. Yes, yes. Right? And as leaders, you definitely gotta be uh doubly careful, right? Um because you know your impact could influence people underneath you so much. Yeah. Right? Um and so I think it's that time.

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Yeah. Okay. Yeah, let's go. Here we go.

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Woo wee! Let's go.

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Okay. Um this is my Davakem this time. It is. This is my Davikem. Alright. Um Are you ready?

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I think so. Let me have a swig of water first.

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Okay. This is a philosophical question. This is a silly question. Okay. Do you think I want your full honesty right now? Okay. No pressure.

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Oh man. There's only like five people listening. I'm kidding. We hope we hit thousands of people. No pressure, no pressure. Alright, go ahead, go ahead. Hit me. Not literally.

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All right. Do you think Lightning McQueen has car insurance or life insurance?

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What? Oh. Um. Can only pick one. Yeah. I'm gonna go with car insurance. Okay. I feel that because he is a car, he identifies as a car. Okay. But it is his life.

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He can't be anything other than a car. Can't be a plane.

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But I I don't know. I I I just see him, he's a car, and you know, it's if something happens, yeah, you know, fender bender, there's some money there to help. Walk into somebody. Yeah. Uh yeah, I think I think it's I think it's car insurance. Okay. I'm gonna lock in my answer with car insurance.

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I'm gonna say life insurance. Why? Because um think about it this way. If you're like a human and if he's driving really fast, that's like human equivalent of running very fast. And if you run very fast into somebody, you're gonna need life insurance if you run into him fast enough.

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I have a question for you though. Okay. Who's getting his life insurance if he dies?

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Mater? Probably. Or what's what's her name? Sally the Porsche. I can't wait. I can't wait to get McQueen's life support.

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That was actually going to be this backwards driver. Okay. Um, so we're gonna toss this out here. This is this is off the script. Ready? And then we had this written down. Oh, okay. Not that we have a big gigantic strip in front of us either. However, here we go. Put that away. Here's the thing. To our listeners, if you could give us a Davakim, what would you give? Yeah. So we are actually looking for a Davakim response. You can comment through Facebook. You can comment actually through uh you can go on our website, okay? So if you happen to search up uh the second chance podcast um through Buzz Sprout, okay, uh, you'll find us. Um and it's actually uh you know available in Spotify too. You can leave a comment. So we and do it in Apple. We know you're there. We know please, we know you're out there somewhere. Uh and we've had two people, our good friends, comment. Uh, but we know there's other listeners out there. Indeed. Indeed. So if you are someone that has never met me and Evan in person, we dare you to leave us a Davakem. No pressure. No pressure. But all the pressure. And all the pressure in the world. And even if you do know us, throw us a Davakem. We want to make a pool of Davakems that we can pull from. And you know what? We'll pick them out of a hat. I know you know what I'm even gonna go this way. I think we could do like a quarter of a podcast of just Davakemes. We could do that. I would be totally down with that.

SPEAKER_02 16:52

Indeed. That could be like a special episode at some point.

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Maybe not even a quarter episode. What about a whole episode? Just 30 minutes of Davakem.

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30 minutes straight Davikem.

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Yeah. Okay. All right. Let's lock it in. So here's your mission, uh, listeners. After this episode, as soon as it goes live, we want you to be dropping Davakemes into the messages. You can comment through Apple, comment through Spotify, you can comment through our website, you can comment on Facebook, whatever way you want to, and we're gonna gather all of them up.

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Yep.

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And um if you want to have one of us, uh Evan or myself, start the Davakem first or something like that, pop that in there too, or you can just throw us topics. It does it doesn't matter.

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Yeah, and if you know me and Christian personally, you can even just like shoot us a text or something like that.

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Yeah.

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Because I know we had Facebook issues at one point where some people couldn't comment for something. I don't know what that was, but yeah.

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So yeah, whatever means you can, send them in. Yep. And uh we'd love to uh we yeah, that's a that's gonna be our next episode. That's gonna be our in-between.

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Do we want to do an in-between for yeah?

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Let's do it.

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Okay. Yeah. These are how this is how plans are made.

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Yeah.

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While we're live. While we're live.

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Uh so yeah. So we're gonna do an episode in between mighty men of Jess Davakems. Let's rock it. Okay, cool. Sure, man. All right. Uh here we go. You people have two weeks. So get on it. Get on it. Okay. Um, we're going to, if you do have a Bible, we're going to be in 2 Samuel chapter 9. If you're driving, please do not look down and read. No. Uh focus on the road, keep that seatbelt buckled up, and uh we'll read for you. So we are in 2 Samuel 9. Now, Evan, can you tell me a little bit about David? Just anything you know. This is not a trick question either. Just tell me some stuff that you know about David.

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I know he was a king. Yes. I know he slept with Bathsheba? Yes. Or was that? Okay. Yeah. That was King David. That was a story in and of itself. Yeah. Of uh he sent Bathsheba's husband into battle to Kelly. Pretty much. Yeah. That's right. So that was a bit sleazy. Yep. But uh I know he wrote a lot of the Psalms as well. Definitely. That's probably the extent of my knowledge.

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Gotcha. And David is also known in the Bible as a man after God's own heart.

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Hmm.

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Which is very interesting because when you think of someone that well, the second thing that you mentioned was his biggest sin. Yeah. Right? Um, and uh he's certainly known for that. But David is also known for keeping his promises. And as a man, um, you know, I really value that. And we're going to look now in 2 Samuel 9, where it says David's kindness. Uh so I'm actually reading from the NLT version, New Living Translation, David's kindness to Meshabeth. And what's interesting with that, who was Meshabeth? Well, Meshabeth was Jonathan's son. And Jonathan was best friends with David when he was alive. So King Saul is the was the first king ever of Israel. His son, Prince Jonathan, was of course after him, next in line. Yeah. And then David had been anointed king by Samuel. Gotcha. Even while Saul was king, but it was like an anointing like this is coming, not that you're gonna take over right now.

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Right. Yeah.

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And David always honored Saul. He was hunted down by Saul, and on two occasions he could have killed Saul, but he didn't because he said it was the Lord's chosen one. So he honored God so much and Saul that he wouldn't even kill him. Saul tragically dies by the hands of the Philistines. Yeah. Bunch of the Israelite army is killed. Jonathan is killed, his other two like brothers are killed.

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Was Saul the guy that got killed by his own sword bearer?

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Uh not killed by his own sword bearer, but he asked him to do it, but Saul fell on it himself. Oh, right on. Yes, right. Yeah. And um, which is interesting because we're talking about promises and telling the truth and things like that, I guess. The an Amalekite actually came to David after the battle was over.

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Yeah, I remember you.

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Remember that story?

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Yeah.

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Yeah. And said Saul was there, I saw him injured, he told me to kill him. I went ahead and I did. Even though he didn't. Even though he didn't.

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Thinking he'd get praise for it. Exactly.

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And get some reward. Got not a good reward from it. What did he get? What did he get? Killed. He got killed. Uh he yeah, David killed him right then and there. Um because he as David said, you killed the Lord's anointed one. Right. So fast forward now uh some years, uh David is well established now. He's the king of Israel. And he is wondering where if there's any descendants of Jonathan left. Okay. And so we get the story of Meshabh. And it's pretty interesting. So I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to start us off. Okay. One day David asked, Is anyone in Saul's family still alive? Anyone to whom I can show kindness for Jonathan's sake? He summoned a man named Zeba, who had been one of Saul's servants. Are you Zeba? The king asked. Yes, I am, sir, Zeba replied. The king then asked him, Is anyone still alive from Saul's family? If so, I want to show God's kindness to them. Zeba replied, Yes, one of Jonathan's sons is still alive. He's crippled in both feet. Where is he? The king asked. In Lodabar, Zeba told him, at the home of Makir, son of Amni. So David sent for him and brought him from Makir's home. His name was Meshab. He was Jonathan's son and Saul's grandson, and when he came to David, he bowed low to the ground in deep respect. David said, Greetings, Meshabh. Meshabeth replied, I am your servant. So he obviously thought he was going to die. I think he definitely thought he was going to his death sentence right there. Like David is now king, right? And everyone knew that Saul hated David.

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Yeah.

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Day they're out of the picture now. Someone still left. It's like, come on, you're a dead man, right? Um Do you have verse seven? Are you are you there and follow me?

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I am and you read. David said to him, Do not fear, for I will show you kindness for the sake of your father Jonathan, and I will restore to you all the land of Saul, your father, and you shall eat at my table always. And he paid homage and said, What is your servant that you should show regard for a dead dog such as I? Then the king called Ziba, Saul's servant, and said to him, All that belong to Saul and to all his house I have given to your master's grandson, and you and your sons and your servants shall till the land for him, and shall bring in the produce that your master's grandson may have bread to eat. But dang it, how do you Meph Meshab? Meshbeth? Yeah. That's what we're going with. Sure. Yeah. But Meshabeth, your master's grandson, shall always eat at my table. Okay. Okay. Yep.

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Yeah. So what's interesting with that there is that Meshabeth um was crippled on both feet. Okay. Now the story goes, it's not mentioned right here, but it's I believe it's in Chronicles. His uh when news came that um Jonathan and Saul had had been killed by the Philistines, his mother or s or the servant, or whoever it was that was with him as a baby ran with him and dropped him on the floor and crippled his legs. Uh-huh. And that's why he was crippled. So um and the reason why we wanted to include this story into the part about mighty men is that David had every right. There's no one left to remember his promise. Jonathan's dead, they're gone. Yeah. But yet, here he is, even after death, keeping his promise. That's right, that's right, to take care of Jonathan's family line. Yep. And I really like that because I'm gonna ask you a question. Okay. Okay. You're walking down the road. Yeah. There's a person in front of you. We'll call let's say the ladies in front of you, okay? She's walking, and a hundred dollar bill um drops out of her pocket. Yeah. Okay, her purse, and it lands on the sidewalk behind her.

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Yeah.

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She doesn't know that the hundred dollars fell out, and she keeps walking, and you see it. Okay. What do you do?

SPEAKER_02 26:12

Pick it up and give it back to her.

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Okay. That was a quick response. Yeah. So I would reckon that there are obviously people out there that would think that's fair game.

SPEAKER_02 26:26

Okay. I mean that yeah, I can see why some people would think that. Yeah. That way.

SPEAKER_00 26:33

But but what you just described was an integrity comment. Right? A man of integrity. You know she's not going to find out until later that she lost one hundred dollars.

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No.

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She won't know where that money actually fell to.

SPEAKER_01 26:49

No.

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But yet you found it. Yelp. It's not mine though. Is not. But it could have been. And that's the thing. Yeah, sure. She didn't know. And it's the exact same thing. Nobody else knew really the promise that David and Jonathan had made years and years later. That David knew. And the Lord knew. Yelp, yelp. And I find that encouraging because that is a good example to us. Mm-hmm. You know, to um God is is always watching. And it's important for us to be aware that we do things with integrity. Yes. And also it's funny, I sort of we sort of went off I sort of went off into integrity just then, but I really believe integrity is an important part of keeping your promises.

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A hundred percent. Because if there's no one left to remember your promise and you break your promise, who are you doing it for? Indeed.

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What we do in secret is who we are. Yeah. Well, Jesus says in scripture that what you do in secret will be shouted from the rooftops.

SPEAKER_02 27:58

Yeah, so it's gonna be revealed anyway.

SPEAKER_00 28:01

Yeah, exactly. And uh, you know, I like we see this all around us. Like, look at uh what's his name? Uh Jeffrey Epstein. Yeah. Right? Uh like that's a whole nother kettle of fish, but yet it's you you look at this guy on the outside. He had money, he had fame, he had reputation.

SPEAKER_02 28:18

It's usually those people though.

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Sometimes is it just is it just like those people though?

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Do you think not just those people? There's certainly like at some point I feel like everyone has some sort of skeleton in their closet. No matter who you are, because it's just that's just human nature. It is, I think, to a certain extent.

SPEAKER_00 28:40

It is. And I feel also though, that God is the counterbalance for keeping a skeleton out of the closet.

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For sure. If you actually know that if you're at a point where you can say confidently that God exists and I want to be for God and He is who He says he is, that's right you're gonna be consciously living with like something, someone is always watching me no matter what I do. Yeah. So if I do this bad or dishonorable thing right now, it's gonna be paid for one way or the other.

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Well, you have the Holy Spirit inside of you guiding you, right? Uh when you when you actually ask Christ to come into your life, uh, you know, um, you know, like I'm sorry, Lord, for the things that I've done, you know. Uh please uh come into my life and and make me new. Um and thank you uh for saving me. You know, like that's a very basic kind of salvation prayer. Uh and maybe, listener, you don't know Christ, and maybe you've been down that road where you might have done stuff. Uh that you know you do have skeletons in your closet. Well, um the good news for you today is that you can know Christ and He can actually set you free. And um, you know, I think that's an encouraging that's an encouraging thought, and that you're right, Evan. God is always watching. And I think it's very important for us is that if we actually live with that mindset that what I do here on earth is temporary and and eventually this will be remembered. Like what I do here is for like eternity.

SPEAKER_02 30:34

Yeah.

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I think if we have an eternity type mindset, that will influence a lot of what we do today.

SPEAKER_02 30:42

For sure.

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And a little tie-in there as we get ready to finish up, uh, one of the things that um was said at Preston's funeral uh that I attended uh was actually a challenge from the brother. Uh his name was his name is Caden, and he said that uh he said, you know, for Preston, if you could do one percent better, just one percent, and one percent in a day works out to be about fourteen minutes. So fourteen minutes out of a day, what is something that you can do uh that is one percent better? Um and I think that if we took that mindset as well, uh you know, what can I do today to just make something someone's day better? Yeah, it's uh off of our self-thought and onto someone else.

SPEAKER_02 31:37

For sure.

SPEAKER_00 31:38

You know? And so with that said today, um, you know, we just want to thank our listeners. Um you guys are uh great and uh we appreciate this journey that we're on. Um also, and of course, we just want to mention that there are ways that you can support uh the Second Chance podcast. Um you can um share this, you can comment about it, maybe even around the dinner table or you're out somewhere, you're like, hey, there's this podcast I listen to, uh the Second Chance Podcast. Uh, and you can also support us financially uh by giving. Uh there's uh you can there's a button there in Spotify and also on Apple that you can click, uh, and that money can go towards our monthly subscription uh and also the the cost of the equipment that we purchased to upgrade the sound for our podcast.

SPEAKER_02 32:32

I think right now, anyway, this is just my take from it. I think we did have a little season where we were fumbling around with equipment and things like that, and we were like in the middle of upgrading, and things were a bit trickier. But right now, I think the most valuable thing on your guys' part as listeners is just spread the word because I mean that's what we're doing it for. Get it out there and spread the word, big bird.

SPEAKER_00 33:02

Spread the word, big bird. Yeah, and you know, and and spreading the word is is a great way to help us, right? Because it's uh there's more people out there that need to air this. Without people to listen, we'd just be speaking into space. So thank you all. Indeed. Um, and uh so we just hope that you're blessed by this, and we'll see you on the next episode.

SPEAKER_02 33:28

Remember, all the Davikemes in the world you can scrape up from the darkest, deepest corners of your mind. Maybe not the darkest. Yeah, just not too dark. Not too dark. Please don't traumatize us with your question.

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Yeah, we we like something, you know. You can certainly send us weird things, but uh up to you, man. Uh but regardless, we look forward to hearing from you. So again, just take that moment. It will take you less than a minute. Fire in a message, let us know, a Davakem. You could even do a little bit of research if you wanted on you know hard questions or stuff like that, because it doesn't have to be funny. No, it can be flat out serious, it can be flat out serious, right? It could be difficult, it could be easy, or it can be the most wonky thing on planet Earth. And we are very wonky guys, so indeed. Cool. I'd like me a bit of wonky. What does that even mean? I don't know. All right. On that wonky note, uh peace out, guys. God bless everybody.