Deep Dive Episode 35 ( Jan Jensen Iowa Hawkeyes Womens Basketball Coach )

For most fans, Jan Jensen is known as one of the most accomplished figures in women's basketball history—a six-on-six scoring sensation from Kimballton, Iowa, an NCAA scoring champion at Drake, a professional player in Europe, and now the head coach of the Iowa Hawkeyes. But in our latest podcast episode, we go beyond the résumé and the record books to explore the person behind the success. Jan shares stories from her remarkable journey, reflects on the mentors and relationships that shaped her career, and offers insight into the partnership with Lisa Bluder that helped elevate Iowa women's basketball into a national powerhouse.

What makes this conversation special is that it reveals the authentic, down-to-earth personality that has made Jan so beloved throughout Iowa. She talks about leadership, gratitude, family, and what it means to represent the Tigerhawk every day. Whether she's posing for a selfie at Target or connecting with fans across the state, Jan never loses sight of the privilege that comes with wearing Iowa across her chest. It's a candid, heartfelt conversation filled with humor, perspective, and the kind of wisdom that extends far beyond basketball. Hawkeye fans, sports fans, and anyone who appreciates great people with great stories won't want to miss this episode.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:00

Alright, all you groovy cats and cool gals. This is Brad ED in the Place to Be, and I'm kicking off my midnight set here at K Drake with I've Been Thinking About You by London Beat. Oh, that's a good I've been thinking about you.

SPEAKER_05 0:21

Here we go, boys. Neptune, Ariel. How's the go going? Going well, Raymond. Going well, Raymond. Alright, boys, we're gonna get right to it today. No time for catching up. Our guest is ready to go. But I have to admit, I have some sneaking suspicions about today's guest. So if it's all right with you, I'd like to give her some qualifying deep dive quizzes before we allow her to sit down and fully be part of the deep dive studio. Is that right with you guys? We got a better. That's fine. Alright. So, guest. If I were a bartender and I were to say we only take cash, the ATM is over there, or are you good with a bottle? Because we currently don't have any glasses back here, or we don't serve espresso martinis. How about a Jack and Coke? What kind of bar would we be in?

SPEAKER_01 1:11

Dive. Definitely dive in my kind of place.

SPEAKER_05 1:15

All right. We're off to a good start. Quiz question number two Saturday morning. You tune in to CBS at eight o'clock to see the Berenstein Bears cartoon. How many more chances? Eight o'clock. Go on, go on. You tune into CBS at eight o'clock to see the Bernstein Bears cartoon. How many more chances do you have to land a better cartoon on the channels? How many more chances? So how many more programs are how many are better than the bears? Well, I guess if the Berenstein Bears is your favorite, then how many more channels are there?

SPEAKER_02 2:00

Oh, ABC, NBC.

SPEAKER_05 2:03

Right.

SPEAKER_02 2:03

That means the main.

SPEAKER_01 2:04

Just ABC, NBC, and CBS. Yep.

SPEAKER_05 2:06

So two more chances. Yeah, right on. All right, you pass that one. Last question. Women's basketball in Iowa, six on six or five on five?

SPEAKER_02 2:17

Oh, well, if we're talking old school, it's nothing like six on six. Nothing nothing like it.

SPEAKER_05 2:24

All right, you've passed the test. All right. Let's get started. Today's guest grew up in Kimbleton, Iowa, a community with a rich tradition of women's basketball excellence. She added plenty to that legacy herself during the era of Iowa's famous six-on-six basketball. As a senior at Elcor in Kimbleton High School, she averaged an astonishing 66.5 points per game, not per week, not per month per game. A statistic that doesn't sound real, but consider this. She once scored 105 points in a single game. She took those talents to Drake University, where she played from 1987 to 1991 for a young and up-and-coming coach named Elisa Bluter. During her senior season, she led all NCAA Division I women's basketball scoring with an average of 29.6 points per game, earning her national recognition as one of the most prolific scorers in our country. Her impact at Drake remains legendary to this day. She's only one of two players that have had their jerseys retired in the Nap Center, where the number 13 hangs is a permanent reminder of one of the greatest careers in Bulldog history. After college, she continued to play her career professionally in Europe, helping lead BTV 1846 Wurppal to a German Warpital. Wurppital German Cup. But perhaps her most important chapter was only the beginning. The coach player relationship she formed with Lisa Bluter at Drake evolved into one of the most successful partnerships in women's college basketball history. Together they helped transform the University of Iowa women's basketball program into a national powerhouse, reaching multiple final fours and inspiring a generation of basketball fans across the state and beyond. Along the way, our guest became known not only for her basketball knowledge and player development, but also her positivity, authenticity, and ability to meaningful relationships with everyone around her.

SPEAKER_02 4:16

How many mules is this gonna cost? Oh buckets. I tell you what, this is a bit set up.

SPEAKER_05 4:22

All right. After spending the last two minutes talking about her, we should probably let her do some of the talking herself. Everyone, please welcome the head and women's basketball coach at the University of Iowa, Jan Jensen. Welcome, Jan. Welcome, Jan.

SPEAKER_02 4:36

Hey, thanks for that, Raymond. That was a heck of an intro.

SPEAKER_05 4:39

Well, thank you.

SPEAKER_02 4:39

I'll tell you what, my God bless my mother's soul. She would love every second of that if she was like to hear it.

SPEAKER_05 4:45

Not too bad for Kimbleton, Iowa.

SPEAKER_02 4:47

Not too bad. It's God's country over there.

SPEAKER_04 4:50

So, Brad, how do you know Jan? You know, as you were reading through that, Ray, I was like, yes, these are these are all amazing attributes of Jan. Yeah. And and I a lot of people have gotten to know her as Iowa's success, you know, um rose over the past few seasons. But what I've known her as is a neighbor and a friend.

SPEAKER_00 5:10

Amen, Brad.

SPEAKER_04 5:11

I'm super happy to have her on the show because I think, you know, our audience, I think they want to hear about women's basketball. And they know about Jan, the coach and the athlete. But what I appreciate is Jan, the human. Like Jan, the friend, the neighbor, the one who walks across the backyard and joins us for a Moscow mule around the fire pit. Yeah. And her family, and the way, on top of all the things you mentioned, she is a great mom and a great partner and uh a great friend to so many people. So I think we can have a lot of good chats just about just about anything.

SPEAKER_02 5:44

We do, and we have we have in our backyard. Yeah. I think you, Jules, Steph, we we've kind of covered a lot of topics over the years.

SPEAKER_04 5:52

Oh, yeah. So lucky to have Jan as a neighbor, lucky to have Jan as a friend, and lucky to have her on the show. So thanks for joining us.

SPEAKER_02 5:58

I'm so honored to be here, guys.

SPEAKER_05 5:59

John, does this seem odd to look at Jan not from section 116?

SPEAKER_03 6:04

Well, we'll say before we even launched the podcast, as soon as we did, I knew Jan to be a great guest because a couple years ago, in kind of the heyday when the team was up towards the top and Caitlin was playing, I took my daughter to a really critical game late in the year, a weeknight game. After the game, I made my daughter go to Georgia's with me to get a late night burger. We sat out in a booth and Lisa Bluter and Jan Jansen walked in and my daughter's eyes lit up. I'll go, that's how you celebrate a big win. And I would say a big deep dive podcast guest for sure.

SPEAKER_02 6:33

I tell you what, we we've had some great moments at Georgia's. That's a whole nother podcast almost. Let me tell you, that that is reserved for big time wins, important wins.

SPEAKER_03 6:44

I was wondering if it was a game edition that went more than just that one night.

SPEAKER_02 6:47

Yeah, what what game was that?

SPEAKER_03 6:49

I don't remember the specific one, but I do know it was a late February game.

SPEAKER_02 6:52

You know, it must have been something to clinch now.

SPEAKER_03 6:55

It was a big game.

SPEAKER_05 6:56

Can you navigate Iowa City like that? Can you go to Target and walk around and um yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:01

I mean, it hopefully it will continue. Usually, you know, you'll get recognized. Right. You'll get um, you know, asked tonight. I just had to stop by Target. Actually, we were coming back from a grad party, and you know, there's some folks that want a little selfie. And a lot of times people ask, oh, you know, that has to get so annoying, or it's like, and it honestly does not because um two reasons, you know, people are paying attention. And as long as they're paying attention and they're supporting you, that's a great thing.

SPEAKER_07 7:30

Right.

SPEAKER_02 7:30

And number two, I think I've always understood, and Brad can attest to this, that I mean, I'm fully aware that it's because I wear the the tiger hawk, right? If you're if you grew up in the state or you're in this town, there's a lot of power with that. And it has nothing to do. I mean, I don't, it never goes to my head, or I'm too good to take that photo, or too busy, or it's the fact that I have such a cool job that I get aware the tiger hawk as a person that's representing a team. I mean, so many people wear the tiger hawk if I may. I one time when I first took this job years ago, now 27 to be exact, and I was driving down the interstate, I came, I was coming up on a car and had the Iowa license plates and then the tiger hawk in the window. And I thought, you know, wow, I mean, I coach a team of which that license plate wants to drive the car.

SPEAKER_07 8:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:24

And so it just is something that I've, you know, it's not as um easy to navigate, you know, some of those things. But um, if it ever becomes easy, then I think either A, we're not very good, or I would start taking things for granted. And uh I know I won't start taking things, stop taking things for granted. Right. And I plan on to continue being good. So that's all right.

SPEAKER_05 8:45

And I want to tell you, that's carried over to the women you coach. Uh I've always loved that you guys have the women go to the center of the court, wave everybody, thank everybody for coming. Because you know, some of those games are tough to get to. It's the middle of the week or it's you know, like and and your players stay there and sign every autograph. That is carried over, and I think it's made an impact on you know women's basketball in Iowa.

SPEAKER_02 9:08

You know, I really do. Well, I was here when there wasn't as many people, right? We kind of helped, you know, rebuild it. Certainly there was great errors here with Vivian Stringer.

SPEAKER_07 9:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:18

But I think when you remember what it was like to drum up support, and now that you have such a great fan base, um, you know, yeah, I think most, in my opinion, the people I respect the most that lead, uh, they typically remember that they're only there because of a whole lot of work that was done before. Right. And I remember that as a whatever role as a coach I'd been. Um, but our players, we constantly talk about all that was done before. And they're they're doing a great job, don't get me wrong. But if we ever lose touch of the past, um, I think that's um I think that'd be really uh a sad deal. But I also think it would um really put you on a trajectory that I don't think would lead to too much success.

SPEAKER_05 9:59

Yeah. Would you be okay with going down memory lane a little bit? You played at the um old Vets Auditorium. Yeah. So can you talk a little bit about what six on six I mean, because it women's basketball in Iowa was every bit as much the hoosier, you know, the feeling in high school sports. I mean, everybody in the state, whether they had a team in it or not, would go to the vet and watch women's basketball. So can you tell us a little bit about six on six and what made it different?

SPEAKER_02 10:26

Yeah, you know, I think um before we talk about that, I think it is the fact that Iowa has always been really supportive of girls in sport. And the gentleman, E. Wayne Cooley, he was executive director of the Girls Athletic Union. And way back when he started um really pouring some money and energy into it, he was thinking of a business, right? You know, like, okay, how can we sell tickets? You know, how can we make this uh something that's profitable? And so he had a a lot of great ideas, but then in the process, people fell in love with a game that was long supported. For example, my grandmother, she played basketball in 19 uh 20 and 21, and she was named the MVP of the 1921 state tournament.

SPEAKER_07 11:12

Right.

SPEAKER_02 11:12

And I happened to find her journal. Yeah, honestly, it was about a hundred years to the day. It was when COVID happened. I found a box in our basement, you know, we're all going through our storerooms or whatever. My mother had passed away a few years earlier, and uh, it was one box I hadn't gone through. So I grab it and I see these ledgers, you know, it looks like it says journal. And the one I happened to open up, there was five of them. It was um like March 20th, 1920. And when when was COVID? 2020, right? Yeah. But the way she was describing the support, you know, remember how these small towns we know Iowa where the town shut down, there's a police escort, all the things that was happening way back then. And she had written it in a journal. So then when E Wayne Cooley started to really make it a big thing, and it really became pretty profitable in the 50s and 60s. When I say profitable, people they wanted it on TV, you couldn't you couldn't get get a ticket for the finals. So when something's uh coveted, yeah, right, well, then it you know it kind of becomes a thing. And then we had some really great coaches. So what the game of six on six was, sorry to take the long run.

SPEAKER_06 12:23

No, you're good, you're fine.

SPEAKER_02 12:24

Was um for the listeners, it's two games of three on three.

SPEAKER_06 12:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:28

And you can only dribble twice. So the crazy part is um those three games of three on three, you couldn't cross half court, but that meant six people or three people always had to defend, and then the other three always got to shoot. So it's so crazy people are like, what? Because we all love to shoot and score, right? But you'd go to a basketball camp and the the usually the camp director would say, Okay, who wants to be a guard, which was the defender? Half of the gym would raise their hands. And who who wants to be a forward that was the shooter? The other half would raise their hands. So it just kind of equaled out.

SPEAKER_03 13:05

Interesting.

SPEAKER_02 13:05

And so you had people just really focusing on defense, and you had people really focusing on shooting. So it kind of stands to reason that if you're halving the game, you can become pretty proficient and efficient at a certain skill. And I think that's why you saw all these great scores. Um, but I I also have taken that as I've been coached in my career, is um I've taken that philosophy. Less is more. If you get really good at a crossover shot and you get really good at a 15-footer, if you get really good at a limited amount of moves, you can become, I I believe, you know, one of the most efficient players on your team, and hopefully that becomes your conference, and hopefully that becomes in in the country. But a lot of that, um, to me, theoretically, that was the six-on-six game because it it half the game. And so if you focus on a limited amount of skills, in my mind, it's almost like a subconscious, well, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_05 14:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:07

Why why why wouldn't we just be efficient and and try to make the game simple?

SPEAKER_05 14:11

Your grandma's nickname was Lottie. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:13

Why was it Lottie Time or she scored a lot of points? A lot of points.

SPEAKER_05 14:16

Yeah, she was a media sensation. She was a newspaper robot.

SPEAKER_02 14:19

They loved her. I didn't unearth all of those newspaper articles until I was uh going to go to Drake. And get this. I don't know if people have known this, but you know, she was older. I mean, she still had a sharp mind. Right. But it we didn't put the correlation together till I was going to Drake. But the state tournament used to be held at Drake.

SPEAKER_07 14:37

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 14:37

So it was the old Drake field house in which I was playing in when I went down and I I have it in my office now. I shined um up her little sterling silver cup. Yeah. And then that's when I saw Drake University. Oh, that's I go, did you play at Drake? And she was like, you know, we did. I we did at that field house, and that's of course where it was. And so then, you know, I was pretty blessed. I got recruited because I did score those points. I could have gone a lot of different places, but thankfully Drake was um, they were in the lead eight at the time I was coming out. Oh yeah. So then, you know, a kid a couple hours away, my people could see me play. Uh, but that that was pretty cool that I circled back around to play in the same building she played in.

SPEAKER_05 15:18

What do you think her nickname would have been if she was on the defensive side of the court? Stoppy and blocky. Mount Matumbo.

SPEAKER_02 15:25

I would say it had been something. She was a pretty driven woman, let me tell you. It would have been something. I I kind of like Stoppy.

SPEAKER_05 15:33

But you want to get stops. Yeah, there you go. Of these two gentlemen, I am the least knowledgeable of sports. But I did do a little homework on you, and I noticed that when you played six on six, you had knee pads on. Yes. And when you played at Drake five on five, you did not. Can I assume that's because six on six was more a physical game than five on five, or was it a fashion issue?

SPEAKER_02 15:55

I think it was a fashion. We also wore target socks back then. I remember you you guys remember target socks?

SPEAKER_04 16:02

I don't know what target socks are.

SPEAKER_02 16:03

Okay, it's like a stirrup. We called them target socks. It's like stirrup over your sweatshot.

SPEAKER_04 16:08

Like you'd have in baseball.

SPEAKER_02 16:09

Yes. So we would wear them with my knee pads. It was part of the deal.

SPEAKER_07 16:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:14

But, you know, I I wore these orange knee pads, a silky front. But then when we got to college, nobody wore knee pads.

SPEAKER_07 16:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:23

So I just, it was not part of the thing. So it was more fashion. But I think um I I kind of always wonder why people don't in some ways. There's um, you know, there's a few players that do. In fact, one of our former players, Lucy Olson, my first year of coaching, she was our point guard. She wore them, continues to wear them. She plays for the WNBA Mystics.

SPEAKER_07 16:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:42

But um, I think it's not a bad idea as much as everybody falls on the floor. Yeah. I'm not sure. Um, for me, it was just, I mean, what we did. Right.

SPEAKER_05 16:50

No, I had to say.

SPEAKER_02 16:51

And when I went to college, I was like, but that that's a very good observation.

SPEAKER_05 16:55

Well, that is only an observation. I was trying to be funny, but this is very serious. Yeah. My next question is playing six on six, was it harder as an athlete? Because it was just Iowa and Oklahoma that played six on six. Was it harder to get out in front of other coaches? Because if you're a defensive player, they didn't know whether or not you could shoot.

SPEAKER_02 17:14

And that that's where the lawsuits all started, was exactly that. It was everybody that had to play defense, they were like, Well, wait a second, you know, we we don't ever get a score. And then if we want to get recruited and we can't score.

SPEAKER_06 17:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:29

Now there were on occasion a six foot four defender guard they would get looked at because they were tall enough and you could they thought maybe we could teach them the skill. So that's that's what eventually happened. But it was hard. Like I I scored a crazy amount of points, so I got the attention. You know, we didn't have social media back then. But you know, you look at you know, stats. If someone scores or is averaging 60 or has a hundred points, right? You're like, well, we better look at this kid in Iowa. Then you then they had a you know, just like I do today, and like, can she make the jump? Can that kid maybe she's averaging 30, but maybe I don't take her this day because she's too slow or she's not big enough. So that's what they were doing back then. Okay, this kid's scoring a lot, but can she play the full court?

SPEAKER_04 18:15

Can she play defense? Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 18:17

So that's what they were doing, but I got asked to play on a club team, which is a billion-dollar industry now. Yeah, right. And it was definitely small scale, it was just starting. So then when I got to play, I played five on five. So I had summers, three summers of playing five on five, which was more advantageous, obviously. Um, but defenders usually didn't get asked to be on an all-star team like that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 18:43

When did you meet Lisa? How did that go down?

SPEAKER_02 18:45

Um, we met just uh the coach I I committed to Drake, and then the coach I played for left. So my senior year, we had to get a new coach. So it was like, oh, you kidding me? And then Lisa got hired. So I met her, and then she played an incredibly more fun style. And um I just, you know, we thrived because we weren't as good under the other coach, so she left. And then when I went overseas, um, well, Lisa's system allowed me. I mean, I I was scoring 20 some, but then when Lisa came, my average went up uh I think to 29 my senior year, had a pretty good year, and then I got um you know some awards but helped me get an agent, went overseas, and just the way she coached though, you know, you know, that because you were always kind of I had a great high school coach. I learned a lot from my first coach in college. Uh but when Lisa came and seeing how, you know, every every button she pushed and how we were all so motivated. So when I got back from playing overseas, we'd won the German Cup. I was just gonna be a GA. I was just gonna get my I was gonna be a small college president at St. Olaf to be exact. Is that right? That's right, I I'd been to St. Olaf for some camp and I got my master's, but I thought, well, we're just gonna are you gonna toast me on St. Olaf's. Okay, we're never gonna go.

SPEAKER_05 20:06

No small colleges, but I've got a couple I'm gonna bring up. Absolutely. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 20:10

But anyway, uh 27, 8, 9, whatever years later, uh, I fell in love with coaching. And then Lisa and I, we just kind of stayed together that whole time.

SPEAKER_04 20:20

Well, I've seen the the uh press clippings of Lisa's first press or uh press conference when she took the job at Iowa. When she was she looks like Emma, like she looks like she's 20. She was she was a young coach when you were when she was at Drake, right? Like very young. It was how many how many years was she at Drake before she made the transition?

SPEAKER_02 20:42

She um she wanted to be a D1 coach by the time she was 30. That was the first time. And she signed her contract on at uh 30. No way to be at Drake. And then she was there um 10 years, so she was probably got the job here at 39 or 40. Man, she was I think I'm guessing that. But she was um yeah, she was she was really good. She really you know, she'd taken St. Ambrose to the final four and kind of revitalized Drake when then when I coached with her, Jenny Fitzgerald, another longtime assistant. So we made the move over with her, but that was way, we had a blast. I mean so much fun.

SPEAKER_05 21:17

You know, I I kind of hope, I just I really hope that Lisa is uh the same Lisa like in a front room as she is when she's like on the court and stuff like that. Yeah. Was she always like that or did she grow into that? Is she like when you knew her from Drake?

SPEAKER_02 21:31

Yeah, you mean like fiery and fun and all that.

SPEAKER_05 21:33

But I also yeah, but also just kind of really super grounded and genuine and look you in the eyes when you talk to her and I mean Lisa didn't have a retirement party.

SPEAKER_02 21:43

Would not. I mean, like her retirement party was a few people by texting me to Georgia's. I was gonna say it was a Georgia. She just really is um yeah, roll up your sleeves, just uh work hard. I mean I've I mean what I loved about her um even to the last the last day if there was water on the floor y she would be the one with the towel. Yeah, that's what I was talking about. Yeah. It just it was the coolest thing. And um I think that's why, you know, we're all wired a certain way and we had such shared values. But every good thing that's ever happened to Lisa Bluter is so deserved and she's just um they don't really make them like her anymore for sure. I mean, just the way you know she stayed and the way she moved needles before you guys were, you know, most people were paying attention. Um there's so many stories I watched her fight in a really classy way, not in a way that would turn people off, but she just had a way to be like, you know, that's I don't think that's exactly, you know, the right way to do it. You know, I think I think that there should be a little bit more equity here. Uh I think you know, we should have a little bit more percentage of that that budget. And you know, I think there were many times um, you know, she could have, shoulda, woulda, coulda, you know, probably never had some of the salaries that maybe she should have, but she was fighting so hard for everything else.

SPEAKER_07 23:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:10

But in a really cool way and it and it made sense. And then when people looked at it, I was like, oh huh. Yeah, I think that that might make sense.

SPEAKER_05 23:17

You know, I think one of the I don't know, I don't know if there is an Iowa way or whatever, if that's even true. But one of the things that I respect most about Iowa is I think all of the head coaches still coach. Oh, I mean they have assistant coaches, but I mean you see all of the coaches still coaching their athletes. It's not their you know, whatever general manager of an operation that's gonna be. Right. I think all of the most of the coaches anyway still coach their players.

SPEAKER_02 23:44

I really I I think that'll always it seemingly will be a hallmark of Iowa. Uh we just, you know, we attract people that are not afraid to get down and dirty.

SPEAKER_06 23:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:55

And you know, we're under assault now, all college athletics with you know the Rev shares, the NILs, and you do wear a lot of hats that are much different now as a head coach. A lot of it is with money or like a Gilling with Asian things. So you do have a lot of that, but um I just think most of the programs that honestly I admire, and I've been studying a lot of them, the head coaches, they're still doing all the most of the coaching. Right. And certainly at Iowa, you know, but I'm I'm talking to other coaches, they're still on how they're they're doing it.

SPEAKER_05 24:28

I mean Kirk is still like getting in there with the lineman niggas on it.

SPEAKER_04 24:31

It's awesome. It's so great. Terry Brands gets on the mat, right? That's just Gable did. It was just insane. It's cool.

SPEAKER_02 24:37

Yeah, it it's it's cool to work at Iowa, guys. I'm telling you, you're walking around, these guys, um legendary status, some of them, Dan still comes, Dan Gable still comes around, you know. It's just everybody, you know, there's a lot you can criticize with all of us at times. If we blow a call, we don't have the kids ready. I agree, we we deserve all the criticism. But I'm telling you, what they should no one should criticize the the care of these coaches, and truly, truly their ethics and their their personas are so uh grounded in wanting to be great for so many people, and that's what I'm that's what I've always been about. So it's fun to work with alongside of that.

SPEAKER_03 25:18

So the Iowa Athletic Department has kind of a reputation, a culture around like a family atmosphere, and certainly the women's basketball program has that uh tenfold. I'm curious, Lisa obviously is a huge mentor of yours and an in-person person. What is your philosophy in this day and age around building a team and a family with NIL and all these transient student athletes that you deal with today?

SPEAKER_02 25:39

Um, first off, I do think we have a great culture, and I think uh Beth Getz, as our ultimate leader, is boy, is doing a phenomenal job in a really difficult time. I think, you know, she's you know one of the best that I've ever worked with. And you know, a lot of times ADs have to tell you no, but Beth kind of operates in a way that even when she tells you no, you kind of really believe she wants to tell you yes. You know, I think there's a good point of leadership. Now she might have had no intention of ever giving you the yes, but you can feel she's with you. And I think that's really important to those of us that are sitting in the head chairs. Um, yeah, the survival in this day and age, you know, how do you keep your your culture? And that's what I've been trying to do is um my you know, my my mantra, if you will, is um, you know, I want to remain a college program in a pro world. And none of us asked for, you know, exactly what's happening, but since it is happening, you have to figure out the formula that makes sense to you. You know, I just continue to start with the the person and the family. And you know, you're gonna miss sometimes on you know recruiting, uh, but the portal recruiting can be really fast. That's like speed dating, you know, and you're asked to sign a prenup that neither one of you are quite sure you should sign. And so that's crazy. But I think if you start with the people, you have a pretty good shot for success. And then the portal, it just is what it is. We just have to get used to it. Um, it used to be really easy to say, hey, I need you to sit for a couple of years, or maybe you're not exactly telling them, but the writing's kind of on the wall, and they'd be like, Okay, let me stay. Amen. You we just all you just have to wish them all well because you can't service them all because you only have a certain amount of minutes. So you just kind of have to uh navigate that. But has it has it changed? Well boy, yeah. It's uh my spouse often calls it a no-joke job.

SPEAKER_03 27:24

Yeah. What resources do you tap into? Who do you look to uh for like leadership, books, pods, other coaches? Like where what resources do you draw upon?

SPEAKER_02 27:33

That's a great, great question. How I stay grounded, I have a really strong faith. The one thing is really non-negotiable is my morning devotions. I really that's when I kind of get grounded. Uh, but I use uh um, you know, really a plethora of different things. If I have enough time, I'll listen to um a podcast. It's helpful if I'm driving to recruit out of the store some of them. I read a lot of um books on great leaders in three areas clergy, military, and coaches.

SPEAKER_03 28:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 28:02

Um I really feel like if they're um people I respect, there's a lot of coaches that write books that maybe I wouldn't want to do it like they do it. Um, or maybe, you know, you know, a military uh person or whatever. But I think anybody that can can get the masses in line, then that helps me get 15 in line.

SPEAKER_07 28:21

Right. Right.

SPEAKER_02 28:22

And I think they're with football coaches that really do it in a really right and cultured way. When they got all those guys, there's a lot of lessons I think that we can use when we have, you know, you know, 15. Uh so that's what you you you try to do and um you know you try to draw upon new, you know, your experiences. But I think the hardest thing I'm finding is trying to find the time to create new because you now are adding roles of you know, I'm calling agents, I'm talking GM stuff, and you know, just sometimes in the off season that's when you get better. But when you're portaling so much and talking to all these people, there just doesn't seem to be as much time to research, you know. That's a verb. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_04 29:06

That doesn't mean drink portaling. You're not like it's not like Star Wars, you're going. No, you're portaling, you're dealing with the terms for portal.

SPEAKER_02 29:13

Yes, I might have just coined a new phrase. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:16

I mean, times have changed, you were obviously a prolific score, really highly recruited. What did you do with your first NIL check when you got to Drake?

SPEAKER_02 29:22

Oh my gosh. Guys, I did I just did a uh story or I did a speech in April, and um I did uh uh it was a really a deep dive. I learned a lot. I studied really into uh wasn't didn't have the deep dive with the bar angle, but I really went into the incident of a legendary.

SPEAKER_07 29:41

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 29:42

But I put um all my stuff in, like if I was recruiting a young woman now, yes, doing the things that I did, I would have been a minimum one million. 1987 to now.

SPEAKER_06 29:55

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:56

Okay, chat GPT didn't take. Right, right. But I was trying to, you know, put the metrics in. Yeah, but with your NIL when you're trying to reach the cap, you know, you but you would have to go to a certain amount of schools, and there's certain schools that could match that. So my NIL check, I'm still waiting for that in the mail.

SPEAKER_03 30:12

Well, you could treat yourself right to what you were worth in one other question, this is kind of on behalf of my wife. I'm gonna ask you, are you superstitious at all?

SPEAKER_02 30:21

You know, uh trying not to be. And the reason is I grew up with a grandmother who read The Farmer's Almanac and every wives' tale. Like I grew up like, don't walk around at the ladder, don't get the black platter, you know, don't kill a spider in the house all the time. And I'm arachnophobic, so I'm like, oh my gosh, I need to kill the spider in the house. So I have been like over, you know, deprogramming. And so trying not to be superstitious, but it is really hard when I look at that lucky suit.

SPEAKER_03 30:51

Well, the reason I said on behalf of my wife is because she'll say, Oh, Jan's got her lucky heels on today. Okay. Now do you pay attention to these then? Do you have your lucky heels and your lucky suit? It sounds like maybe.

SPEAKER_02 31:03

No, I I know the ones I've won and lost in. Right. But I try, I try not to let that deter me from things. But um usually, well, one thing about the heels. Um now when I sat down most of the game, I could wear about a three-inch. Now my first year I realized I gotta take that down to two inch. Yeah. Because the angle, that's a little hard to kind of get expected.

SPEAKER_04 31:27

Like, there's not a lot of people who not a lot of head coaches that are doing.

SPEAKER_02 31:31

There's a few, not as many, but there's a few, yeah. Now I my spouse is uh physical therapist and very much does disagrees with that. Yes, the heel. So I've uh I've been I got a friend who's she gives me some pretty fancy um tennis shoes um as a gift. Yeah, it's my friend Cammy. She's uh amazing. Let's talk about Cammy from Kimbleton.

SPEAKER_04 31:53

Tell us about her Vegas lifestyle and some of the things the people you've rubbed shoulders with. Okay, thanks to her.

SPEAKER_02 31:58

In farm, my grew up in a farm, right? Three hours or three miles away. Right. Cammy Christensen, she is also super Danish name. They're Jorgensen, Christensen, Janssen. They're all Danish. The first and only currently female GM uh on the strip of Vegas hotel. Oh. And so she is uh amazing. So great. There were, I think there were a couple others hired after her, but they have been replaced, but Cammie is still rolling and just awesome. You talk about grounded, but she lives in a world that's anything but right, she rolls and but she's uh also enjoys fashion.

SPEAKER_04 32:35

So she's but she's a badass among a men's sport, right? Like she's in there dealing with Vegas.

SPEAKER_02 32:42

She's she's something she just won't be. Whatever else. Uh I think the woman of influence, uh, I can't remember, but she just won that. She's amazing. But my very first um game, she flew, my head coach, she flew in and uh she gave me um a pair of Louis shoes, right? And so then she said she was like, I want you to have these, and then she whipped out a bag and she's like, and I got a matching pair. Besties for life. Besties for life. Right, but they become a write-off then. Yes, Louis Vuitton is just so great, but she's um too bad they don't do yellow instead of red. She the this was black and white, and um, yeah, but she uh she gave me another fun pair that this year. This was La Wave.

SPEAKER_06 33:26

Oh, very, very nice.

SPEAKER_02 33:28

Nice, but she's uh you know, she loves her fashion, but she's just quality boy. You talk about my community, her parents, they're still alive. Her dad farms and just quality. It's just like that type of community and those ties. But it's kind of fun. We both um have grown up and stayed close. Like 50, 50 plus year best friends. I've I've heard it.

SPEAKER_05 33:48

I've heard it said a thousand times. I was unfortunately greatest exporter to young people that go out in the world and do great things, and really kind of amazing.

SPEAKER_02 33:56

So it really is.

SPEAKER_04 33:58

I was just thinking about what you said, Jan, about like driving around and seeing the tiger hawk on people's cars. Growing up in Kimbleton, western side of the state. So, like, would you I'm sure today plenty of Iowa. There's a few of that other. But I was gonna say, like, growing up, was it more like Iowa State Country? Or you got some?

SPEAKER_02 34:17

It was more big red.

SPEAKER_04 34:18

Nebraska.

SPEAKER_02 34:19

Nebraska. That was fighting words because we were about 45 minutes from the border.

SPEAKER_07 34:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:25

So the TV stations we got, speaking of only three networks Raymond, um, they were all Omaha.

SPEAKER_04 34:31

Omaha based. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 34:32

So it was just down your throat. Nebraska football with the great Tom Osborne years. Oh sure. So um, thankfully I had a brother. My brother didn't, he wasn't much to just um take what you know they were dishing out.

SPEAKER_04 34:46

He went against the Green Hall.

SPEAKER_02 34:47

Oh yeah. He was he was never, ever, ever a fan of Big Red. So he picked the whole Coloma Sooners. So back in the day, the Sooners were pretty good, and he liked the Hawks, right? But we always got the Big Eight stuff.

SPEAKER_07 35:01

Sure.

SPEAKER_02 35:01

So then he just couldn't handle everybody loving the Huskers. So then he just started to think, well, I'm just gonna cheer in the Big Eight when I gotta have all this stuff. He picked the Sooners, right? And of course the Hawks in the Big Ten.

SPEAKER_04 35:14

Yeah, yeah. Well, I don't know R Ray where you're going next, but I think since you brought up Doug, who was a good athlete himself. He's a great athlete. You've told me some stories. Yeah, he was great. But he had a well-recognized, in fact, recently I was telling the guys from the pod, right? I was telling John and Raymond that they had this kind of like draft or like NCAA bracket of the best dive bars in the state of Iowa. It might have started in Minnesota or Wisconsin and they moved it to Iowa recently. And I was looking through the names and I we were trying to figure out who's gonna be on it from Iowa City, and I was a little bummed to see like some of the standards you would expect. We're not on there, I think. We're not shown, right?

SPEAKER_02 35:53

No, see, they didn't they didn't do their homework well.

SPEAKER_04 35:56

But I was very excited to see Luggers from Kimbleton made the list. So awesome. So tell us about luggers.

SPEAKER_02 36:04

Well, my brother, his name was Doug Jensen, and the bar is now run by his daughter, Ashley Jensen. And um he bought it from a guy, the guy's name was Arnold. So it was called Arnold's for all the years. And it took him a while to pay it off because he probably he probably drank his profits, you know. You know, he's he'd sit down all too often. Pretty soon he'd just start, I got it, I got it. But he uh he was great. And so when he finally paid it off, eventually he named it luggers because that was his um nickname. Okay, it he was a big guy. He wasn't um yeah, he was the lugger. That's whatever he said. He's let him know lugger, right? But he uh never met a stranger when he passed away of a heart attack. Um the the town lost a big voice, and uh he was just a great you know bar owner. I mean great fun bar owner, maybe not as profitable, yeah, but Ashley is doing a great job. So who's ever listening? If you're ever in Kimbleton, Iowa, you gotta you gotta take a two things up.

SPEAKER_04 37:06

Yeah, we need to get to luggers. I need to do that. We do have to have that. Yeah, that's that's all.

SPEAKER_02 37:09

We were always gonna take the black pearl there. Yeah, that was my big you know, you always think you have all this time, and yeah, we were planning that before I got the head job years and years. We were we'd even picked the people that were we were gonna take on the bus. All the things, and my brother was so he was so pumped for that to happen. But yeah, it's he he was a great guy. He'd a great athlete, he was a great baseball player. In fact, and he also called the games up until he passed away. Like we have a little league, you know, the small towns. He would be the guy that was, you know.

SPEAKER_03 37:40

So let's quickly talk about how divy luggers is. Yep, let's do it. Food? What do they do for food?

SPEAKER_02 37:45

Oh gosh, maybe a frozen pizza.

SPEAKER_03 37:48

Okay, that's chips on the wall for the phone. Chips on the wall for sure. Like behind the bars or pickled eggs or anything? Nope, never went down that road. Maybe some nuts. I don't know. Yeah, yeah. What kind of beer are you getting there?

SPEAKER_02 38:00

Oh, well, definitely you gotta have your bush light. Yeah, yeah, basically. Uh my brother, Bud Heavy, always don't even do not even entertain the king of beers.

SPEAKER_05 38:11

Why do you think it was on tap, or was he a bottle or game guys?

SPEAKER_02 38:14

On tap, like yes. He would I I would have to now it's he's passed away a few years ago, but Bud was the choice. But Bush Light, obviously. Right. He was a pretty much a pretty basic all-American beer for sure.

SPEAKER_03 38:26

Was there a pool table in there?

SPEAKER_02 38:27

Oh, yes. Pool, yes, definitely.

SPEAKER_03 38:30

Cardboard cut out of a four wheel one driver.

SPEAKER_05 38:33

Elvira. You're hearing the dig of Brad right now.

SPEAKER_02 38:40

Well, yeah, there was a lot of um a lot of racing about it.

SPEAKER_05 38:44

Okay, there you go. He had uh a little bit of a shrine to you, didn't he? Like kind of hard to get stuff.

SPEAKER_02 38:50

He he did. You know, it all started, if I can get sentimental, when I um went overseas and played professionally. We didn't have the WNBA back then. Well, he had taught me everything. He was nine years older. I have a sister, Melody Jenkins, who is still alive, lives in Sioux City. She was musical, but she played softball, good softball player, but she acted in all the plays, beautiful voice. But Doug was the athlete. And he taught me how to shoot. He really taught me how to play football. And I can diagram or play. We we had more fun running routes uh during combine season when the corn was loading. But he just he was my guy and uh uh track when I went to state track, he was just the biggest fan. So when I was in Europe playing, uh I got like I think it was a Sports Illustrated magazine, and there was an ad that it had like a track athlete or someone, but they were it's probably a MasterCard ad. But the tagline was be ever before I ever had a coach, I had a brother. So I cut that out and I had my first you know pro headshot and um the big photo shoot. Yeah, and so then I got the professional headshot, and then I, you know, crudely, but I cut it out, you know, made it look nice, and I sent it to him. And I guess when he got it, he got choked up and he put it right in um in the bar, the original owner, Arnold Christensen. He had one of the original Budweiser uh, you know, the wagon with the horses. So the Clydesdale and original, it was under glass, yeah, and it kind of stuck out, and so Doug put it in there. That's so cool. And so it was really cool. So that's kind of how it started, the the shrine. But he he was a biased big brother.

SPEAKER_04 40:33

That's great. You said he taught you how to throw a spiral. Oh, yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 40:37

Yeah, absolutely. He he taught me to throw a spiral, how to throw a baseball, curveball, slider. Yeah, um, yeah. Taught me the big thing I remember too is feeding the post. And um, I really thought that meant um, because I was little as a you know, elementary school. And I go, well, what do they eat? And he kind of looked at me, he started shocking, he had a really fun laugh, and he was like, Oh no, no. He's like, feeding the post is like a pass. So if you want to get be nice and big and get low, but if you're the guard, you're gonna feed him. And I was like, okay. But I thought, man, give me whatever I need to eat. You know, I if I gotta eat something, I let me know.

SPEAKER_03 41:13

Yeah, I got a feeling you probably still use some of that coaching to this day, huh? Oh, I do. I do. You're all about getting the post fed.

SPEAKER_05 41:19

Yeah, absolutely. Elkorn Kimbleton was an early consolidated school. I mean, unfortunately, before a lot of other places, what was it like growing up in a small town? You said, you know, it was all hands on deck. People played football, basketball, softball plays. What was it like for you? It was awesome.

SPEAKER_02 41:37

I loved every second of it. Everybody was your family. I mean, I don't remember. And the reason I think I wasn't glamorizing it, even though when you get older you tend to, I mean, I'd scored a lot, right? I had a lot of press. But I remember everybody being all in. I mean, they were one for all, all for one, everybody excited. And partly that was probably a lot to do with my coach, but that community, uh, they are just really, it was just special, you know, farming community, hardworking. Um, but you just you just grew up um at each other's houses, right? And uh just a really good fundamental work ethic town. And it was just kind of a golden era, just what you talked about, those 80s, you know, Saturday morning cartoons, all the things. But when, you know, if you grew up on a farm, when you work, boy, you worked.

SPEAKER_07 42:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:28

And then when it was time to rest, we rested. Uh, but I couldn't have it any better, you know. I've been asked to speak different times, and I was thinking about this. Um, I remember the first time I said this line, I was in college. I said, you know, if God took me tomorrow, I couldn't have it any better.

unknown 42:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:45

And I believe I've been saying that since probably 1984, 85, when I was in high school.

SPEAKER_07 42:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:50

How blessed am I to continue to say that? But that foundation and um, you know, those small towns, they're just um they're dwindling, right?

SPEAKER_07 42:58

Right.

SPEAKER_02 42:59

Um, you know, the small town farmer boy, uh, you know, we can get into a whole nother podcast with that, but I'm a proud small farmer daughter, but there isn't very many of those guys anymore. And uh a lot of the land being bought up is um, you know, used to be by oh, that big rich farmer. Right. And now we'd rather have him. Right, you know, or that, right, than the corporation. So it was a golden era, and it certainly helped to shape me. And I I think I got the very best of um of that town for sure.

SPEAKER_04 43:28

We do a cheers to luggers, real quick.

SPEAKER_02 43:30

Cheers to luggers. I would love that. God bless you. I know my brother upstairs is he's smiling down.

SPEAKER_05 43:36

At one time, Elkorn Kimbleton was the biggest Danish population in the United States, is it? Still is, yep. Windmill.

SPEAKER_02 43:44

Yep, windmill. And so Elkhorn is and Kimbleton are separated by three miles. So Kimbleton has a mermaid from Copenhagen.

SPEAKER_06 43:52

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:53

Elkorn has the big tourist attraction, the mill, which is great. Uh, they have a every Memorial Day weekend, they have a Dana. Tivoli fest. Uh but I was in um in school and it was between us and Minneapolis to get granted the Danish immigrant museum. Oh so this became the focus up until we had a year to prove to the committee that we should get it over Minneapolis. Because maybe you think Minneapolis, you'd have a lot more people coming through. But we thought Minneapolis doesn't need they don't, it's just a big city. We really uh I mean we went to work and it um we got awarded and the the museum and it's thriving today. That's awesome. In fact, this uh recently I haven't been home. I didn't go home to Tivoli Fest this year, but they have an artist commissioned Danish artist, and he made these huge, like I think 20 to 30 foot trolls. Yeah, yeah. And he's put them all over, but he started over there. Yeah. I don't know, he may not be, but there's some eight uh Danish. I think I've seen him on sound. I would have to see if he's a Danish artist, but I know there's a Danish connection. So they continue to find ways um to thrive. And um I'm very proud to be part of that uh the work we did to convince that committee to give it to us. And I think that's what's helped them. Now the school we had to consolidate with Exira.

SPEAKER_07 45:18

Right.

SPEAKER_02 45:18

Uh changed my colors, the goal of orange and black. They're now maroon and white. But they still, you know, still kind of cheer for them.

SPEAKER_05 45:26

All right. For people that don't live in Iowa, Iowa was established during the the Westward Push, and there were a lot of immigrant settlements, and when they settled, they settled all together. There are Danish, there are Dutch, there are German, there are Swedes, there are I mean they all kind of settled in places that reminded them a lot of home. Um, unfortunately, we don't have any sea or mermaids, but I guess exactly.

SPEAKER_02 45:51

Funny you brought that up. My dad, about oh, 30 or 40 miles north, the farmland becomes really flat and black as soil. Well, goddamn names where they settle all these rolling hills, the heels we get on these hills. I don't know why the hell they had to settle here. My mom was like covered now, Dale, it's certainly pretty.

SPEAKER_07 46:13

We do well, but I heard that all my life.

SPEAKER_02 46:16

But we drive up to play in tournaments, and yeah, I mean, look at that farmland. We have it so flat. But at the end of the day, we wouldn't trade it. It's it's beautiful area.

SPEAKER_03 46:27

Beautiful area, yeah. Sure. All right. All right, Jan, we've talked a little bit about dive bars, and that's kind of the overarching theme of the podcast. So I've got a couple quick questions for you on that front. I think we've established your all-time favorite dive bar, and we talked about George's, which may or may not be your favorite dive bar in the area, but I did want to ask you favorite dive bar in the area and some others that are on that tier that you've seen.

SPEAKER_02 46:45

You know, and I don't want to offend anybody in the Iowa City area, but George's, um, it started years ago. Uh, we had a chili supper with our team at St. Mary's Church. Yes. And um, that was started years before we got here. And then um we would usually have a big win, or sometimes you would talk so much you wouldn't really eat. And then we heard about these cheeseburgers at George's.

SPEAKER_07 47:09

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 47:09

But it kind of coincided like, oh man, let's let's go, you know, let's go have a toast for this game. And it became year, I mean, 20 plus years ago of probably in year two we were here. And so George's is just hard to unsee because of how we started. And they have been great. I mean, when we won the Big Ten tournament, like uh we've been on the runway and we had a de- ice, yeah. But we called, they're like, we'll stay open.

SPEAKER_07 47:37

Oh, so they've stayed.

SPEAKER_02 47:39

Now they won't do that, but they knew this was at the end of Lisa's era, uh, probably that second year or the first final four-year. So it just um that has to work. George's is for all the reasons the Christmas lights, the the chips, the wallpaper, cheaper. Wallpaper, yeah, all of it. Yeah, all of it.

SPEAKER_03 47:58

It's a great so when Jan Jansen walks into Georgia's and goes up to the bar, what is the first beverage order?

SPEAKER_02 48:05

Oh, always in forever tangore and tonic.

SPEAKER_04 48:07

You know that. I was gonna bring that up with luggers because you we were asking about what was on tap, and I think you had shared with me that Doug served a pretty maybe plastic bottle or we don't know, but like middle to bottom shelf gin. So he kept a special, right?

SPEAKER_02 48:24

He kept a special tangore for me, but also bottles of tonic. That's the thing. Okay. You gotta have great tonic. Dive bars, the one thing that they aren't always great at is the tonic coming out of the machine that by dicope, do whatever. And that's what's a little dicey. So make a good GT, you gotta have good tonic. Okay. Tonic, tonic, tonic.

SPEAKER_04 48:45

And not out of a true value like a uh Walmart.

SPEAKER_02 48:48

That's why. So he kept the little six-pack legs underneath his bar. Small shorties. Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_03 48:54

Make sure that might seem like an easy question, a layup, if you will, but it might be more criticized than you think. What is your food order at Georgia's?

SPEAKER_02 49:03

Oh, cheeseburger. Everything loaded.

SPEAKER_03 49:05

Loaded cheeseburger, and what's do you pair anything with the cheeseburger?

SPEAKER_02 49:09

Yes, plain plain chips.

SPEAKER_03 49:11

The stursings? The sturzings?

SPEAKER_02 49:13

No. I like the I don't I'm not a sturgeons fan. Okay. I'm not a sturgeons. This could have been a lay. This is like a turbine. This is an East Coast, West Coast legit. Well, you just turn on it for much. You don't get Sturzings. Lays just like that at Lay's bar. Like, because sturgeons, they're okay, if that was the only thing, but they're just so greasy or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. But they cannot be at every dive bar, so then you're gonna give them if you're rate rating a dive bar just because they have sturgeons, you're gonna put that up. See?

SPEAKER_04 49:46

Bread your two is not even sturgeons anyway, right? I'm gonna weigh in on this. What's your opinion on on uh funion? That's you're gonna go there.

SPEAKER_02 49:56

Not a fun funion. I just feel like it's just like if you want to like a funy, I would love it.

SPEAKER_04 50:02

Is it the onion smell that turns you off? No, because you eat your Georgia's burger with the onion. So that's not the problem.

SPEAKER_02 50:09

That's just it's a it just goes a little too far trying to be something it cannot be.

SPEAKER_03 50:13

Oh, wow. Jeez. Brad wants to tee you up right now. Look at we're we're best friend neighbors. We're best friends' neighbors. I will remember not to put funions out of the book.

SPEAKER_04 50:24

You're gonna have to um Do you have the similar position on corn nuts?

SPEAKER_05 50:28

Are you anti-cornuts?

SPEAKER_02 50:29

No, I'm okay with corn nuts.

SPEAKER_05 50:30

Okay. You're gonna have to log a little time with our podcast we did about like sleepovers, Saturday night sleepovers. I will tell you, staying over at Brad's house was a real treat for Thanksgiving. Funions, like munchos, no, no munchos.

SPEAKER_02 50:45

No Brad, you and I are the same. Good coffee, yes, good you know, G and T, but your bunions kind of.

SPEAKER_05 50:53

His preferred soft drinks were just we had to Google some of them. Some of them were only sold like in Eastern Bloc country.

SPEAKER_04 51:01

Our family was artsy. Did you drink artsy when you were a kid? I know. Did you drink the tall bottle?

SPEAKER_02 51:07

Like you know, we had those, yes. We were a Pepsi's family.

SPEAKER_04 51:10

We were a Pepsi, okay.

SPEAKER_02 51:11

Pepsi family. Dr. Pepper. My mother loved Dr. Pepper.

SPEAKER_04 51:15

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 51:15

All right.

SPEAKER_03 51:15

Sorry, John, I interrupted. I got one last question. Yes. Competitor, rival, or fellow coach that you would most like to take to Georgia's for a burger and a beverage.

SPEAKER_02 51:25

Gosh, competitor, rival, father coach. All three. You want to go. Yeah, we can choose. I would say, well, you know, Robin Freidelick of Michigan State. Okay. Um, we sit together at Big Ten coaches meetings, and she's got two adorable kids. And she she endeared herself because um her kid loved Caitlin. Okay when Caitlin was here. And so then a great story, uh, Caitlin's senior year, she hit a three-pointer to beat Michigan State, and her kid happened to be there.

SPEAKER_07 51:56

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 51:56

And that love affair with Caitlin was tested because in the locker room, yeah, not only is she trying to console her team and just got beat, her kid is just like, I don't like Caitlin anymore. Screaming, and she's like, You can still like Caitlin, and she's she's just a funny guy. So I think that Robin and Frey like would enjoy George's vibe.

SPEAKER_04 52:14

She would dig George's vibe.

SPEAKER_02 52:16

But if I thought longer on it, there's a lot of people I'd probably invite to George's.

SPEAKER_04 52:20

Yeah. Good one though. That's good.

SPEAKER_02 52:22

Yep, that's a good one.

SPEAKER_04 52:23

Yeah, so uh today we had um we had lunch at Mickey's and and on television they actually had sports of our gym class days. So there was a wiffle ball on TV, and John and I got a lot of people.

SPEAKER_02 52:35

Jack and I play a good game of wiffle balls. Oh, you guys like to go there. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 52:38

Into the street, yeah, hit it across the street.

SPEAKER_02 52:41

And he has built a um he got fiberglass from Lowe's or Menard's Okay. PVC. Yeah, whatever that is. I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_04 52:50

He'll he'll answer PC. Great strikes. Piping, yeah. Yeah, PVC right there. Three eights.

SPEAKER_02 52:55

So we we we have whatever it takes, 10 gauge all. All right.

SPEAKER_04 52:59

But I think Jack loves to compete. So let's talk about Jack for a second.

SPEAKER_07 53:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 53:04

Jack has been like a sports caster at age nine. He had Big Ten Boy, he had he had a podcast.

SPEAKER_02 53:11

He still has his little he now he's yeah, he has a podcast, or he had a little video he'd rank everybody. Now he's more into um rankings and creating graphics. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 53:22

And so during COVID, one of the things we decided to kick up in the neighborhood was the Auburn Olympics. Oh, yeah. Jan and Julie and Jack and the Simcox family and our family, the kids, you know, it was adults and kids.

SPEAKER_01 53:38

Yep. And so we had daughter Janie and Janie was in the house.

SPEAKER_04 53:41

For sure. Janie for sure. Yep. And so it was all all hands on deck, and we were trying to make the best of a tough situation. And so we had we designed, and Jack got super into it. In fact, he created a trophy.

SPEAKER_01 53:54

He did.

SPEAKER_04 53:54

And he displayed it. I went to his grad party at the Feller Club. What was it, last Friday?

SPEAKER_02 53:59

Last Friday. Jack graduated. We put you know his stuff up, you know. Congratulations.

SPEAKER_04 54:04

And it was like he had this trophy case, but he had on display his Auburn East Olympics trophy. That's excellent. So I acted in some ways as the MC and we would have a little ceremony, and then he, I think he got the like we would play the national anthem and all this stuff.

SPEAKER_05 54:19

That was big of you, Brad, because I know how bad you like trophies. So I know that it was kind of painful for go through that exercise for a child, but yeah.

SPEAKER_04 54:27

Yeah. So we had great, we had great um events, right? We did a we did a bike race around meeting.

SPEAKER_01 54:34

Yeah, that was an intense one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 54:36

We did a th we did like a free throw shooting thing, we had a putting thing. We we we had all the games. We did. It was so good.

SPEAKER_02 54:42

We had like a little fun stuff and some hard stuff. It was great.

SPEAKER_04 54:45

So along those lines, and and Jack loved to compete, and and Brady and he were tooth and nail um on things. Oh yeah, we did like a yard volleyball, all this all the stuff. Uh but we saw whiffle ball on television and then we saw dodgeball. And that that took us back to gym class. So, like, what were your favorite gym sports? And did you do and I don't know what the name of this is, and Raymond, maybe in Centerville they did this because they did it in Washington. I think it sounds like they did it at City. Did you guys have the little square four-wheel scooters on little casters? Yes. And what did you play when they threw the ball out and you're like spidering around and kicking the clay? Did you guys do that in Kimbleton?

SPEAKER_02 55:26

Oh, yeah, we had the scooters. We had scooter races. We we played crab soccer.

SPEAKER_04 55:29

Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 55:30

Did you guys play crab soccer?

SPEAKER_04 55:31

That must have been what it was. It was crab soccer. But it was in around in the gym and you're like scooters. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 55:37

You're very fingers or panels. No, because now there'd be a lawsuit. You'd run over your fingers. Right. Which constantly would when you're spinning, I can imagine the guy would come up and like run over your finger.

SPEAKER_04 55:49

You probably dominated whatever you played, but what did you like to play? And then the I guess the other the side question is, because we talked about this too. I have a memory of having to wear school-issued or at least school colored. I can't remember if we bought them or the school provided them, gym clothes. Did you have property of our shirts? Yeah, our shirts. We did. We had to buy our own shorts. Yeah, you brought your own shorts. They might have been the piped kind of thing. Oh, I remember the pipes. Because you uh we were orange and black by Kimbleton. Washington was orange and black. So black pants, orange piping. Yeah. Did you have that?

SPEAKER_02 56:24

We we we had that, but we didn't get issued. We had to get it. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_04 56:28

Yeah, that might have been what's probably what it was. You were told what you got to get.

SPEAKER_02 56:31

Did you guys do the cheer like 87, 87, 80, 80, 80, 80, 87? And then if you guys were like 85. Did you guys know that cheer? No. No. See, Cammy and I know the cheer. So she was she's had a big executive meeting. She calls me up and she's like, I'm not gonna prompt you. Finish this cheer.

SPEAKER_07 56:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 56:51

87. 80. And I'm like, 87, 87. I can't believe it. So it must be a Southwest Iowa thing. It's not you guys' thing.

SPEAKER_04 56:59

We had very I I spent a lot of time with my dad was an AD, so I went to a lot of football games.

SPEAKER_05 57:04

Owners of the Raiders said, speak your phone going, wow, well, you're right. Here you go. Here's your 200 bucks.

SPEAKER_02 57:11

They did not believe that anybody did that cheer. It was the best cheer at the gym.

SPEAKER_05 57:17

What's that? No, it just built community. I think all those I think a lot of towns had things like that to make chairs at your school. Make their class feel proud of who they are and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_04 57:27

Ours was. And I I I'm better if I stand up and skip and clap, but I'm not gonna do that right now. But um ours was a a sing back a back and forth. When I say Washington, you say demons. Demons.

SPEAKER_02 57:40

Yeah, yeah, I know that one.

SPEAKER_04 57:41

When I say orange, you say black.

SPEAKER_02 57:43

Yeah, I got that.

SPEAKER_04 57:44

But we at- When I say number, you say one. When I say spirit, you say got it.

SPEAKER_01 57:49

Got it. Oh, I didn't know.

SPEAKER_04 57:50

That was that was like ingrained. Washington Demons, yeah. Orange and black. So talk about.

SPEAKER_05 57:58

Yeah, I I really do with some meanings. Brad has some big meanings coming up. He's he doesn't want to be down in the back. Demon's baggage shoes. I'd probably throw out something. Have a little demon pride here, Brad. Come on. So, Brad, what you're getting at was what were some of the uh the recess games and some of the gem things that you appreciated. We digress.

SPEAKER_02 58:18

We digress. I loved, I was we called dodgeball warball. Oh ball, and I was I was pretty good. I gotta say. I could, you know, through it low, maybe. Not a surprise. You had a technique that didn't surprise me. Man, yeah. Brad Nelson, Mike Sanders.

SPEAKER_04 58:35

Did you take them down?

SPEAKER_02 58:36

Uh most of the time, I gotta say. Gotta say I did.

SPEAKER_05 58:40

PE in first through sixth, it taught you stuff. It taught you who you were.

SPEAKER_02 58:45

It did teach you who you were, and there was no coddling back then.

SPEAKER_05 58:48

Right, no. No.

SPEAKER_02 58:48

And you we picked teams back then.

SPEAKER_04 58:50

Right.

SPEAKER_02 58:50

And you dealt with it.

SPEAKER_04 58:52

Right. Yeah. You're right. Yeah. Okay, so so dodgeball was was one of your ace games. And you also did the scooter soccer. Kickball was my deal. Like if we if we kick it, if we couldn't be outside if like recess was canceled because of weather, we would play kickball in the in the little gym. Yeah, the little gym, which is also where we ate our lunch. And so you'd try to kick it over the lunch lady station into the balcony. That was a big deal.

SPEAKER_02 59:17

Did you guys have cross-outs? I didn't remember. It was like if you were running and you threw the ball in front of the person cross-out. I thought that was a little iffy. I thought, I mean, I did, but I wasn't a big fan. We got older, then we got cross-but cross-out.

SPEAKER_05 59:34

I love kickball. My youngest graduated last weekend. And it's a tradition. Congrats to you. Thank you very much. And it's a tradition in their in Liberty that they go back to the elementary school. That they do the walk. So they get all their graduation regalia on and walk down the hall and give high fives to the future bolts. Um, but they started a new tradition this year. One of the kids brought a kickball. Oh and so they got a game of kickball going out on the yeah, and kids from fifth grade, I think it is, there came out. So they that's so cool. So it was the big kids and the little kids on the same team versus big kids and little kids. So that has carried over, yeah. You know, another theme that we had that we've talked about was um were you a country kid or a city kid? Farm girl, probably. Farm girl? So the did you have sleepovers? Did you have people out to your house to sleep over?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:31

We you know, we didn't do that as much then. Cammy and I, my friend from Vegas, we did. We didn't have too many sleepovers. I don't think they were not as much back then. Right.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:40

Yeah, man, we we talked about it. Like if you stayed over at somebody's house in in town, yeah, it was a lot of focused on eating and watching TV or something like that. But when you stayed with somebody that lived in the country, it was who knew what the hell you're gonna do. You'd be on a four-wheeler, you can be driving a tractor, you can be pulling calves, or who knows what you were gonna do. Shooting B guns.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:01

Yeah, shooting BB guns. Yeah, all the things that was very true. Yeah, so you rode the bus.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:06

I rode the bus. Yeah. Merlin Knutson, best bus driver ever.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:10

Yeah. Who was it?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:11

Merlin Knutson.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:12

Merlin Knutson. Yeah, Knutson. Knutson. Well, with a name like Merlin. That's right. Right. That's so good. Yeah. Okay, and then you talked about Doug, and I know like maybe some of your favorite sports teams. I don't know if they aligned with who he cheered for, because you're talking about Oklahoma, but like when it comes to NFL, NBA, Major League Baseball, you've got some allegiances, and I know they're they don't always line up with Jack, so you kind of have to navigate that. So like who are your who are your teams in the Minnesota Vikings? Yeah, how'd that happen?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:41

You know, just um just growing up, you know, you kind of they were in the news local. Yeah. And I love Fran Tarkinton, George Forman, Sammy White, oh man, all those guys. But then sadly, we always got hammered by the Oakland Raiders. John Madden, though I did love him as I got older.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:57

Um, but just I love the NFL. I have a pretty good baseball football card collection, mostly football. Oh, really?

SPEAKER_04 1:02:04

You still got him?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:05

Oh, I still got him.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:06

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:07

And uh I love those Philadelphia 76ers largely because of Dr. J, Julius Irving.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:13

Oh, okay. You're a Sixers.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:14

I always pretended I was the little Dr. J. That's a little bit, that was out there, right? Because they were great. Yeah. Um now the NBA, I that I don't, I didn't I don't follow them quite as much as love the Sixers, but I love him because I'm a good buddy of um Nick Nurse. Oh, and Nick is one of my uh one of my guys. I love that guy. He's um he's we're we grew up 20, 30 minutes apart, and he's quality, quality, quality. And a national champion. He was with the Toronto Raptors. So it's kind of funny. He's at my old little kid, uh, but now I don't follow the NBA. Uh Jack loves the Golden State Warriors, so I follow them. And then uh baseball New York Yankees, that's my brother. Yeah, and I love them, but I do love the Cubs in the National League, too.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:59

Yeah, yeah, I got it. The Cubs and Yankees in the World Series, what happens?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:02

Yeah, I got him. I mean, God bless my brother's soul. He would, if I was would cheer for anybody but the Yankees, that would be everything he taught me from a jump shot to the Yankees cruel. I tell you what, he would be disappointed. So it have to be the Yankees.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:16

Did you guys have a big satellite dish growing up?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:19

No, Ravenier. Rapiders. So you really were three channels and maybe public television. Three channels. Three channels. I gotta I would grow up, I love college sports so much, they would play the rerun in an hour-length time of the Fighting Irish.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:35

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:36

And I would eat my little cereal before church watching um the Notre Dame. It was Notre Dame or All Big Red, but um, yeah, we had three channels, and you took what you got, baby.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:48

When um I grew up, one of my good friends was Dave Thampkeen. He's a country kid, and all they had was a black and white TV, and they didn't watch TV a whole lot because there was stuff to do. Right. Yeah, and um one time he stayed with me on a Friday night and the Wizard of Oz was on.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:03

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:04

And so, like, we were watching the Wizard of Oz eating popcorn, and when it went to color, Dave freaked out. Like it was black and white, and then all of a sudden it's colored like, wait, wait, what's going on here? That's an awesome story.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:16

That is a great story.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:17

Jan, this has been awesome. It's been great. Yeah, I love it. I think we got it, we got we have a tradition to kind of close things out. We do a little uh Ray usually cooks up some fun, a little speed round or a little game to play. So, what do you got for us, Ray?

SPEAKER_05 1:04:29

All right. This week's game is called Sign Off Roulette. Before we get started, here's a little known fact about Jan Jensen. Back in the 1980s and early 90s, she worked as a radio DJ in the then 90th largest market in the United States, Des Moines, Iowa. Jan, do you remember your sign-off?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:51

Yes, I do.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:52

Jan's very comfortable with the mic in front of her and the headphones on. It's just a natural. Jan, what was your sign-off?

SPEAKER_05 1:04:58

This is uh Goodnight Bulldogs.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:01

Good night, Bulldogs. This is JJ, Jan Jensen, and I'm forever your girl. That's right.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:08

As a faithful listener, I can tell you that's true. Now, because of that great radio background, we're going to play a game called Sign Off Roulette. For those who don't know, there's always been a little friendly competition between DJs. When one DJ shift ends and another begins, there's an unwritten challenge. Can you end your shift with a better song than the one with the DJ starting the next shift? So here's how the game works. We have 15 songs chart that charted between 1987 and 1991. Brad is going to play the role of the incoming DJ. He'll reach into the hat and draw out one song. He'll keep that song secret from everyone. That song becomes the first song of Brad's shift. You'll ultimately have to beat Brad's song. So your job is to build a perfect sign off playlist. One at a time, you'll drive five songs from The remaining songs in the hat. As each song is revealed, you must immediately decide where it belongs in the five to one countdown. So you'll have a piece of paper there, you'll start off with five, draw a line down to one.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:14

All right.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:15

Your final song has to be what do you say, Brad?

SPEAKER_04 1:06:19

These are all songs from the from the appropriate period. These are 80s, these are 80s.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:25

So you'll be familiar with all these points. Okay. So here's the catch. Once you've placed a song in the position on that paper, it's locked in. You can't move it. So because you don't know what the next song is, every decision matters. Do you save it for the top, hoping that there'll be a bigger hit, or do you leave it at the bottom?

SPEAKER_01 1:06:46

This is a good game.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:47

So for Clarity, number one is going to be her last song. Yeah, number one. That's supposed to be her best song that's going to beat. Yeah. So when all five positions are filled, your final song signs off. We'll go head to head against Brad's secret opening song, and a panel of judges will decide: did Jan leave the audience wanting more or did Brad steal the show before a shift even begins?

SPEAKER_04 1:07:08

In this scenario, I'm like the second shifter. I'm like the overnight. Like she should sign in. She's got the prime time, I suppose. Right. And then I'm coming on.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:15

I've always had prime time.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:16

Alright, let's go.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:17

Alright.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:18

And you'll need a sign off at the end of this, Brad. So if you can top, I'm forever your girl. I'll be thinking about it. Right.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:25

Alright, just pick one and keep it a secret. Keep it a secret. Alright. Okay. They're folded. Alright, Jen. So you will pick out your first song.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:35

Alright, so what's your first song?

SPEAKER_02 1:07:37

My first song is. Wait. Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm having trouble because I can't read. Hazy Shade of Winter. Bangles.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:47

Oh, okay. Yeah. Hazy Shade of Winter. That charted in 1987.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:52

So I'm I'm either is he gonna tell me or I'm gonna go to the show? No, no, no, no. So you don't know what he has. I'm throwing that in.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:57

No, no, no. You have to keep it, you have to put it in the vertified. Yeah. So wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. So you understand, was hazy shade of winter strong enough during that time frame that you think you could beat what he might have in his hand. So was it a hit? Would you end with hazy shade of winner?

SPEAKER_02 1:08:17

Would that be your last publicly?

SPEAKER_05 1:08:19

Um you can say, just kind of think about it like You're gonna defend it later.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:24

You can write it in whatever position you want. Okay.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:26

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:27

All right. Hazy shade a winner. So you're gonna draw four more. You don't know what I've got. So is that one fifth?

SPEAKER_02 1:08:33

Yes, it's my fifth.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:34

So fifth, yeah. So that's your low.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:36

There's that's my low.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:37

All right. Okay. Here we go.

unknown 1:08:38

Nothing.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:39

That's pretty trusting, is you know, this is low. I believe in what else I'm gonna get.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:43

Okay. Okay, this one is now you're regretting the she needs her excuse.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:50

Good vibration. Oh, yep. So that's a marky mark and a funky bunch. Yeah. Good vibration. Oh, yeah, that's a good one. That's a good one. Okay. I'm gonna put that where I need to put it in my rear. One through five. Exactly. Where do you want to slot that one?

SPEAKER_04 1:09:04

Can you do better than that, you think?

SPEAKER_02 1:09:06

Um possibly. Yep, I got it.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:09

Good vibes. Yep. All right, I see where you put it. I don't know about Drake, but the field house in Iowa City. So we're gonna go. Good vibrations.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:16

Yeah. That was like that was like the the underwear stick, like the paper. Yeah, that's good. The ripped abs and the whole like that'd be the video, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:25

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:26

Yeah, that was like that to listen to red on a Saturday night at the fieldhouse. I'm an MTV guy. I see everything. It was a little different out of Washington. All right, so where did that go?

SPEAKER_02 1:09:37

That got uh number four. Number four.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:39

Okay, okay, I believe she feels she's strong about him. You've not played these games with Ray before.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:46

I know, I feel pretty strong. All right, I feel very strong about that one.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:50

And it's the Gilligan and Island theme song.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:53

And I love Gilligan's Island voice. Luca. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:57

Oh Suzanne Vega.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:59

Yep, yeah. Second floor.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:00

Yeah, second floor. That was a good one, too. So in theory, I can I shuffle them around. No, no, you wouldn't. I'm a Luca's three.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:09

He's going chalk here. So three two one right now. So this is usually when people realize I should have left number five open.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:16

I should have left it open. But you know, Hazy, I wasn't a big bangles girl. Oh, really? Okay. Manic Monday. Do they sing that? Oh, yeah. That would have been up. That was big.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:26

That was big.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:27

Okay, I got two slots. All right. Two slots because I know what I'm gonna I'm know what I'm gonna pull here. I'm believing, I'm believing this song right there. This one is Don't Worry, be happy. Don't worry by Bobby McFarron. Right.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:43

It is a good one. So you would sign off with that. Here's a little signal.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:46

I would probably sign up because I'm I like being positive.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:50

Absolutely. You're gonna go out. You're gonna go to one, maybe. Tough decision.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:56

Don't worry. Be happy.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:58

Yes, I'm gonna do that.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:00

Here's a little song. So that's your one number one. Well, because so you're saying that song is better than what he has in his hand. Let's go number two. Right. Ray Doctor.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:10

Don't worry, number two.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:11

I don't think you're gonna be happy changing that. That's a strong song.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:14

Come on, give me number one.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:16

I will tell you, you better manifest this because there's some Paul Abdul stuff in here. All right. Come on. Come on, forever your girl.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:25

I'm gonna take this one right here.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:27

Alright, let's see how she ends it.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:29

Oh no. Oh no.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:33

Sign your name. How are you signing off? What is it?

SPEAKER_02 1:11:36

Sign your name. Terence Trent DRB.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:39

Oh, Terrence Trent Darby, yeah. Oh boy. This is what you're signing off with, this song here. Yeah. It's not horrible, but it's not your dog. All right.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:50

It's not Forever Your Girl.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:51

Oh no, Terrence Trent Darby, Brad, what was your first song?

SPEAKER_04 1:11:56

Have a dog. What was the call sign for your radio show? K. I can't remember.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:02

Something with Drake. I don't remember that. I just remember I was Forever Your Girl.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:07

All right, all you groovy cats and cool gals. This is Brad E D in the Place to Be, and I'm kicking off my midnight set here at K Drake with I've Been Thinking About You by London Beat. Oh, that's a good.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:22

I've been thinking about you. That's a tie, Raymond. That's not that much better than what I drew.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:28

I'm sorry, no. But I will tell you what. I think we give you don't worry, be happy, and then you win. All right.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:36

I could have done that. Number two. I was alright, though. They're all good. They're all good.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:40

And how many high school nights did you sit in your bedroom practicing your brandy D routine? I know you didn't just make it up. Oh, get out of here. You didn't make sense. Well, Jan, thanks so much.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:50

It was a great session. It was fun. Appreciate having you. Thanks for making time for us, Jan. I know you got a lot going on.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:56

I'm going to say I knew them when. That's what I'm going to say. Oh, boys. When you're getting those awards, you tell those people getting those awards. You're just you're just beginning.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:04

We'll tell Amy Pouler you said hi. That's right.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:06

Tell her and said hi at the awards show. Tell her I love listening to her.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:09

Brad, I'll put the Amy in the garage.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:10

You'll see it at the next party.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:12

It's happening. It was a bless.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:14

It was a bless.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:15

Cheers to you guys. Cheers to deep dive.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:17

Yeah. On Iowa. Yes, Gohawks.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:20

Gohawks.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:21

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