B-Town Stories w/ Shnazzle and Jerry

How the Navy shaped Bremerton w/ Anton Reder

Josh Season 3 Episode 2

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We chat with our good buddy Anton about his experiences moving to Bremerton in the Navy and settling down here. Our first guest!! Yay! 

SPEAKER_01

Welcome back, my friends, to B Town Stories with Schnazzle and Jerry. I'm Schnazzle. I'm Jerry. And uh what's up, brother? Good to be back with you here.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah, man. Just fucking chilling, fucking doing the same shit I do every goddamn day of my goddamn fucking life that sounds fucking no, I'm doing great.

SPEAKER_01

Just kidding. Well, are you ready to take a whimsical journey back in time through Bremerton, Washington?

SPEAKER_03

And uh get some nostalgia going for our fans. I'm always down for that. That's like that's my life. It reminds me, I don't know, I don't know if I ever said this on the show, but a few months ago a customer asked me at work. I just happened to be out on the floor if I knew what kind of meat I get for some French dish. Yeah. And I was just like, I don't know, I'm from Bremerton. And she was just like, oh, never mind. I was like, but I'll get you someone that has a better idea.

SPEAKER_01

I'll get you some bologna. Yeah. White bread. Yeah. Some shit on a shingle. So uh I have an interesting topic to kind of discuss with you today, pitch it out to you and see if you're into it. You know, I've never really I I you know, we've always mentioned kind of a little bit about how Bremerton's a Navy town, but I don't think we've ever done like an articulated kind of deep dive on how it's really shaped the town in ways that are like palpable, that we can, you know, see still to this day, how it's built the composition of the town and stuff like that. You know, not necessarily from a historic perspective, but just from kind of like a cultural perspective.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. No, like I mean, obviously, neither of us would even be here if it wasn't for the Navy. 100%. That's how your dad got here. That's how my dad got here, you know.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so I think that's kind of cool. So in that way, it's kind of like a melting pot. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03

I've always thought that. Like, um, I was talking to someone the other day about about kind of a similar topic about this area. How like it's much different than a place like Shelton or Belfair. Yeah. Where you're pretty like, I mean, those places aren't really that far away, but you don't have that melting pot kind of feel to it.

SPEAKER_01

You know, it's exactly the people are noticeably different, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And like are just always this thought that like all my friends are Guamanian and Filipino and white and black and whatever, you know, like that's really interesting.

SPEAKER_01

In LA, I got that too. Like, I feel like like race was not even a big issue at all in Bremerton because there's so many transplants via the navy, yeah. I and like like all the rappers would kick it with the punkers and all the rockers would kick it with the like the Guamanians were chilling, we'd just be eating Lumpia. Yeah, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, like that's kind of like how the parties were at my house back in the day. It was just like just this all this really eclectic group of people, you know. Like I like that, you know. I was like getting um, you know, knowledge and information about other cultures, you know. Like that was like when I went to OC for the first time, I took three classes and I failed two of them and passed one, which was which was anthropology. Because I really like studying cultures, you know. Yeah, this is a perfect place to like study culture because you've got them coming from all different directions here in B Town. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01

And uh there is a couple interesting things. So, like I have noted, tell me this is my theory. I have a theory, um without being like a dick about it, but like the Navy has brought so many dudes to Bremerton. Yes, like the ball is in women's court when it comes to the pick of dudes. Pretty much, therefore, the ratio in Bremerton is essentially like probably seven dudes or like maybe six point five dudes to every 3.5 chicks. It's it's leaning in the direction of dudes.

SPEAKER_03

That old uh term sausage party.

SPEAKER_01

A lot of sausage parties. But what I think it has done is embolden women to become more like you know, like uh burlier and meaner. Are you talking of Bremelos? Yes, basically. But like there's no pressure to like, you know, judge it up a bit if you're a chick in Bremerton because you got a very favorable ratio of dudes hitting on you at all times.

SPEAKER_03

That's true. You know what I mean? I think this is a little more well, I guess it's I mean, I don't know what's going on with the the local gals and the sailors these days, but I'm sure it's pretty similar to our time.

SPEAKER_01

But I also think it like makes hard women in Bremerton. Like I was once robbed for a cigarette by a woman with a switchblade in Denny's. Yeah, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, uh Sir Mixla has a really great song about those types of gals who but I don't know if he ever mentions it's a direct result of the ratio in the navy. There's no I gotta look into those lyrics. I'm pretty sure it says something about the navy in there. Oh yeah, maybe it does. I don't remember exactly, but I think it does. But I'll have to look into it.

SPEAKER_01

But also, I think the Bremerton's punk music scene can be attributed to the Navy because weren't you telling me that Natasha's or what Natasha's it used to be called called Pearls. Yeah, it was Pearls, and it was made specifically for Navy dudes.

SPEAKER_03

It was uh for like so they had something to go do on the weekends when they were off work or whatever, and like mingle with the local gals, you know. That's kind of what it was built for, and that's what like kind of the music scene around here was built around that place, you know, because it was the teen dance hall that everybody went to, you know. There was some shows at Sheridan Park too that were going on. I'm talking like 50s, early 60s, that was oh, so that was the Pearls, yeah, yeah, yeah. But uh which obviously evolved into Natasha's, which was more of a punk metal kind of alternative place, you know, different ownership.

SPEAKER_01

Interesting. So um I think we should get straight to our guest, fucking Bremerton legend, and a Minnesotan legend, and a Minnesotan legend, and also uh I wanted to talk with him about his experience coming to from the Midwest to Bremerton via the Navy and kind of what it's like for somebody in from the Navy to get dropped into the pool here. Uh, and uh let's just bring him on, my boy Anton. What's up, brother?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, oh my god, you guys, it's so great to hear your voice. And I'm a longtime listener, first-time caller.

SPEAKER_03

Anton is a big fan.

SPEAKER_00

I am, you know, we have these, you know, cold winter nights here, and it's snowing sideways, and I would just dial into you guys' show, and I really felt some comfort, you know. Like I felt like I was thanks, buddy. I felt like I was hanging out with you guys, you know, and I loved the stories and knew many of the people you were talking about, and it would just I love it. I love it. Thank you, and thank you for having me on. This is this is awesome.

SPEAKER_01

No way, man. Totally cool. We've been missing you, buddy. How's things going out there in Minnesota?

SPEAKER_00

Pretty good, pretty good. I uh, you know, just kind of do my work and I've been doing a lot of cooking, and uh, you know, that sounds very very Minnesota of you. Yeah, I just kind of do my thing, but well, I guess I should probably start telling you my Bremerton story. Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_01

Get into a Bremerton story.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I mean, kind of like, you know, obviously we talked to that you were in the Navy and you kind of like talk about how uh your first experiences when you got here, like was it like some kind of culture shock? Or I mean, I know you'd already been to other places in the world before you got here, but what was your first impression of Bremerton?

SPEAKER_00

Oh wow, yeah. Well, well, I I had been in the Persian Gulf and doing figure eights, and it got announced we're decommissioning in Bremerton, and I thought, oh my god, what am I gonna do? Because it was like you're gonna have to either get out or reenlist, you know? Yeah, and I had to make a decision, and I I had a Japanese girlfriend at the time, and I I was so in love with her, and we met in Japan, but then she went to Seattle U. And I thought I thought, oh my god, this is destiny. We're going to Bremerton, like we're gonna be together, you know, and it didn't end up working out. She moved back to Japan, so I'm like, Well, she graduated, so that that was crushed, but but anyway, so so they uh they announced we're going to Bremerton, and she she had been making me, you know, I'm dating myself, but making me mix tapes and stuff, and yeah, and here's here's this song move to Bremerton. I said, Holy shit, I'm moving to Bremerton. This is this is amazing. Where so we we we went to Australia and then came back to Japan for a bit and then went to Hawaii and then went to San Diego, and we kind of and when you're decommissioning a ship, like that's the last crew of the ship, and so we uh they call it cross-decked with the kitty hawk in San Diego, basically giving them supplies and all of our cleaning out the ship. And I was on the the skeleton crew going up to Bremerton for the de decommissioning, and uh I just looked out and just you know, saw evergreen trees as far as I can see. And I just oh my god, I just fell in love with it.

SPEAKER_01

Just like Cooper from uh Twin Peaks. What are these trees?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, you know, and I just well, I guess, you know, I made a decision. I'm like, this is it, I'm getting out, you know, and I'm gonna I'm gonna start a life here, and uh, you know, they they somewhat prepare you for transitioning from civilian or you know, into civilian life, you know. They get a little couple little classes, you know, but I mean I I went into the Navy five days after I graduated. I mean, I got my head shaved and I was thrown in a windowless van at the court, and just you know, all I knew was Navy life, you know.

SPEAKER_01

That's cool, man. So how long did it take you to kind of acclimate to the Bremerton scene? And then what's up with your B Town story?

SPEAKER_00

Well, well, well, I uh so I basically, you're in the Navy, you have no hardly no possessions, you know. Like I had a guitar and a little four-track and had been, you know, writing songs on the ship. But I get out and I basically had my seabag on my back and walked out the front gate and walked across the street and bought my first car, you know, a little escort. You know, I'm like, okay, I got a car.

SPEAKER_01

Escort, fine automobile.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, and you know, walked two more blocks and rented my first studio apartment, and the rent the rent was$250 a month.

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Damn.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, where was that?

SPEAKER_03

Where was it, Callow? No, that was on 11th Street, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_00

It was, it was landlord was a tweaker. I mean, yeah, it was oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I've heard I've heard some stories of that place from you.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and just you know, but it was home, right? You know, and uh I didn't know anybody in the town. And one one night, about 10 o'clock at night, I get a knock on the door. I'm like, who in the hell could this be? I don't know a single person in the town. And so I answered the door, and it's a guy standing there with a with a you know, a a duffel bag or a book bag, and he's like, Hey, do you do you mind if I use your phone real quick? And I was like, I guess I was like, holy shit, they're friendly around here. Knock on people's doors. And this was back in the days before cell phones, where drug dealers would have pagers, and you know, he just needed to return a page, you know. Yeah, and the guy is like, he's like, hey, hey, really appreciate it. And he he throws down a pile of weed on the table, and I was like, Oh my god. And I was like, Hey, can I get your number?

SPEAKER_01

You know, and I this guy, he I ended up buying weed from that guy forever, but I came up to your crib like a Jehovah's Witness using the phone, and you got like a rider-dyded pot dealer day one in Bremerton.

SPEAKER_00

That's absolutely true. I mean, so you know, um, you know, you you don't, I didn't know, I mean, how to cook, I didn't know anybody in that town. I had no friends. I was just like, well, I knew I loved music and wanted to get into playing with other people. And so, well, why don't I go to the music store and see if they have a bulletin board or something? And sure enough, yeah, I uh saw an ad. Oh, you know, looking for a guitarist, singer, you know, like, oh, I called called the number. And here it was these two high school kids, and I I Jerry, I think you know one of the guys, I think the one guy's name was Jeff. They were a lot younger than me, so they were Oh, uh Jeff Curtis. I think that's it. And uh so of course they were like, Hey, can you buy us beer? And I'm like, Yeah. But you know, you know, but I uh I started we started playing in their basement, and I got to be friends with them and their dad, and they said, they said, Oh uh well, I'm looking for a job, you know, and he was like, Oh, my dad does construction, maybe he can help you, you know. And uh he lined me up with a house framer guy, and I uh started becoming a carpenter and being a house framer through through that connection, you know, and uh ended up working for that guy for 10 years, you know, the whole time I was there. But uh yeah, it's just you know, that was kind of my intro to the music scene, you know, how you know you could just meet people that way, and you know, nothing ever came of the band or anything, but um, you know, and I guess well, just going to the Minette saloon, I started meeting meeting people.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, Manette was legendary, man. Still is going pretty strong, I bet.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, man, that's I believe that's I can't remember how me and I can't get used to calling you Jerry. I don't know why.

SPEAKER_03

Just call me Josh.

SPEAKER_00

Foodwick, Demille. Yeah, I don't know. There's just so many different names.

SPEAKER_03

No, that's definitely where we met.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, you know, and we we started playing music in Spencer's uh garden shed, yeah, where like we had you know a drum set and a few amps in there, and you know, and just started I had a you know, and some of those songs that that that was the spent Jimmy days, yeah, yeah. Spent Jimmies, yeah. And I remember bringing a tape back to like some of my family members, and they were like, Oh, spent Jimmies, huh? Like, you're really going places with your music. I just I thought it was just terrible. And you know, but like some of those some of those, some of those songs were songs that I wrote on the ship and recorded, you know, had just you know, had a you know handful of songs that I did. But uh, you know, just think of all the people that I met through that your friends met York and yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, pretty quick.

SPEAKER_01

Well, dude, and I I gotta say, uh I don't know if you knew this, Anton. You probably don't, but I just published a book. It's called Wedding Scam. It's a Bremerton kind of punk rock romance novel. But it with in it, I give a shout out to Neutral Boy, and specifically what I think is probably the up there with maybe the top one or two Bremerton punk rock performance videos on YouTube, which is boys in bad hair played from that fucking bar with like the chicken wire. Yes, that is the fucking most Bremerton shit ever. It's so awesome. I listened to it like probably twice a week, still to this day.

SPEAKER_00

I I remember that night very well. That was, I mean, yeah, we set up all that chicken wire and like where was that? It was that that was the last show at Winterland. Oh, really? And we were like, oh, we're going big. We we like because we wanted to make it like the blues brothers, you know, like we were playing behind chicken wire, and so and you know, had some other antics where you know it's like I want to see if you have earrings in your chick. Yeah, that got wild. I mean, we had set up a um a shop vac that was like, you know, if you rig it backwards, it blows. Yeah, like rigged it up with all this glitter and like at a certain point, like fired the shop and just blew glitter on everyone. Dude, everybody was hammered. It was like, yeah, that was that was a good one, dude.

SPEAKER_01

I love the like breakdown in that song where Mike does like that, like you know, move to Bremerton down to New Orleans, French quarters. Can't you clean? And then he like slams on the like on the fence, and people just go ape shit. It's so awesome.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, what a night.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, I dude, and and you had that crazy hair, and we're just like shaking it back and forth. Maybe we should post that video at the end of this episode.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, it's that that's pretty poor quality, I tell you. That was you know, like I said, a lot of this stuff and a lot of like neutral boy show stories for sure. I'm kind of glad that it's almost a blessing that some of this stuff was not documented. You know, like I mean, yeah, I can't even I mean, I could do just you know a whole series on my experiences with with Neutral Boy of like, oh my god, don't get me started because we'll get we'll get way off task.

SPEAKER_01

But well, all right, cool. Let me ask you just another couple of random questions. So, what was your favorite place to eat in Bremerton? What was your what like give me some of your picks in Bremerton from a guy who just came here fresh from the Navy?

SPEAKER_00

My favorite place to eat in Bremerton, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Give me some of your uh the Anton Reader VIP spots, food, etc.

SPEAKER_00

Well, back in those days, I I loved Pete's jersey subs.

SPEAKER_01

I knew you were gonna say that. Dude, Pete's jersey subs was epic. We could do a whole episode on that place.

SPEAKER_00

Well, well, me, me and Moen both worked there where I was like a delivery lead delivery driver there. I mean, but I was stoned. I was getting lost. I didn't like I didn't like lose the money bag like Moen did. He, you know, like I he did that one time, but you know, like God, that was just an awesome time in Minette. Like, you know, that little area was just awesome. I mean, all the people I mean, just knew everybody, and yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

That that lineup of neutral boy was fucking epic.

SPEAKER_00

Well, it's it started with you know, Mandy, Mike, and Stubbs, but and then a guy named Tommy played guitar for a bit. And me and Moan had connected. I can't remember, we went to a swap meet at the fairgrounds one time and just like became friends. And uh, what's your favorite descendant song, you know? And uh just but we started playing music, and I'd like to talk about some of the more unknown music projects that me and Moen did that was that was you know, neutral boy. I mean, God, you know, I just learned. so much uh from him about just don't be scared to get off your couch and do this shit for people because they don't have they don't have a god guitar and microphone like what are they gonna say you're on the stage not them you know I got uh that confidence just from him you know just quit talking about it and just do this shit let's do it you know totally do you have any funny stories that happened between you and Jerry Lagar?

SPEAKER_01

Do you have any wild nights at the manette that you guys can remember?

SPEAKER_03

What the heck well let me think well we we did a lot of I don't know I I remember you coming to to our to our pad the label of our duplex I have uh good story that I remember uh busted well we were all down to Manette me you Spencer Manny and Liz my ex-wife and we were coming back in Spencer's fucking what was that old fucking uh the Nova station station wagon yeah Nova station wagon yep do you remember this what I'm talking about and we got in a car accident oh I was gonna tell that story too yeah me and Spencer I mean blackout drunk trying to get home I mean it was a mile and a half home you know me and me and Spencer were driving down Perry and like I don't know what happened he hit a parked car head on on the other s on the opposite side of the road it was I was in the car you yeah because we walked back to my to the chalet pad yeah yeah and just kind of like going down back roads and get this I we got in my Ford escort and we drove back there and towed that fucker home blackout drunk and this is in a neighborhood I mean there was like steam just like the whole front of the car was crunched like how did we not end up in jail that night I'm just like amazing but like I'm I'm glad you brought that story up that is true absolutely true what happened but I guess I forgot that you guys were with us yeah me and Liz were in the back that's right but I just remember like hoofing it back up to your house but we were like kind of going down as many back roads as we could to avoid any cops driving by that might connect us to this accident you know oh it's two in the fucking morning you know Jesus yeah oh my god we're you know somebody must have been looking out for us I tell you back in those days because like you're so young and stupid that you don't even realize how much danger you're putting yourself in like all the time it's like and you're just like fine you know there was a lot of drunk driving home from the manette that was like that was like oh probably the dumbest shit I've ever done in my life was driving drunk when I was in my early 20s there fucking yeah just a poor decision making I was like well I'll have to pay for a cab and then pay for another cab to come back tomorrow it just doesn't make financial sense to the decision making process at two in the morning doesn't really you know click along like it should yeah so tell me about the spent the spent jimmies like what what were some of your songs the spent jimmies oh I I oh go ahead josh do you do you have a tape of that I know I do I have some insane archives of shit like oh dude I want to get I want to get have all your shit like digitize it it was kind of blank 182 ish I guess you know but like Josh wrote some songs for that too yeah there was a couple songs I had that I sang and that we both sang and I can only remember one of the ones I wrote but and I very specifically remember the the one you had uh I think it was about your Japanese girlfriend when it was it was uh my couch smelled good when you sat next to me some something like that I'm sure it was very profound very one day I thought that was clever for some reason I don't know I like it oh I I to be honest I just remember doing mushrooms in that little shed with Manny and we're just jamming and this is just a lot of drugs you know like I was well I mean I was such a straight lace you know sailor for so many years that like and I'm like obviously the guy selling me weed for right out of the gate you know right out of the door but you know I I kind of got you know into that world with Spencer you know and I'm glad it never caused me like problems like it maybe you know caused some people but I'm glad I never got went down a darker road than I did with that stuff.

SPEAKER_01

But that's interesting that you kind of came to Bremerton via the Navy and that's where you finally took the gloves off and just did Bremerton 100%.

SPEAKER_00

Oh I I I threw away my uniforms and I I dyed my hair blue and just like I did I just went full punk rock like just doing construction and oh my god yeah I I I went through some some pretty profound changes you know in those years. Did you have any navy buddies that you were like kind of matriculated here close to you like that came with you or you just full solo I was just full solo and I well because many served in Bremerton and Spencer was stationed overseas at in Japan as well but um he ended up going to a ship in Bremerton and ended up yeah um did you know those dudes before you were hanging out with them in Bremerton no no so I so you all met in Bremerton yeah and like he's like oh I was like I'd love to play punk rock and and he was like oh you should play with my friend Manny that was on his ship and that's that's how I you know met Manny and oh okay so God we just oh go ahead no I was wondering how long after that that I met you guys like were you already jamming when I met you yeah somewhat and then you kind of got added in and yeah yeah yeah yeah got just the cast of characters like Fairbanks and Elkie and just I don't know if we're to name names but no that's all good.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah it's not anything bad but like yeah so long as you're not divulging any crimes. No although I I think the statute of limitations is far blown by now.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah well I I don't want to get I don't want to get you guys demonetized on YouTube or anything.

SPEAKER_03

Some of these stories trust me we're not raking in big bucks so so uh what one uh project that I did I wanted uh to mention is Moen had met this homeless guy in a parking garage and we were like let's start a fucking band with him and he and he and he did like spoken word poetry but and I I mean he he was a very interesting dude and his name was Matthew and so like we just like you know I had all this recording shit set up at my place and like so we had him over and like we just made this absolutely bizarre recording of this guy and and that's another one that I want want to kind of try to dig out of my attic is like dude yeah send me that shit for sure it was bizarre but but we did play one show at the minette which was you know on a Sunday night and we're like we didn't get paid for sure they they did give us food though and Matthew was very stoked about that but I was what was that what'd you call that project the the virus of the moment that that's the just I don't know we just kind of like just try recording all this crazy shit you know and I don't know it it it was really fun and I uh oh go ahead no I said that kind of reminds me of uh licked yeah that was that bad yeah some yeah that there's there's a little more talent with that probably but yeah guitar wise and stuff but but uh yeah I I played music with Ricardo for a long time he was the jingleheimer you know oh yeah that guy's great yeah I love that yeah Ricardo to this day just sends me the the most awesome demos and he is such a good writer like his letter I'm like why is he not fucking I went over to his house a while back and he's playing me some new shit he wrote and I was like why are you not in a band playing shows all the time like fucking what are you doing yeah I it's just uh yeah Ricardo's very underrated songwriter he he's worked on his craft I mean his whole life you know but uh it's amazing that's awesome uh producer Kev you got any questions for Anton before we start to button this thing down were you on an aircraft carrier too is that what you said I was I was on the the last crew of the independence which it was a non-integrated ship where it was just 5,000 dudes there was no women on my ship at all talk about a sausage party yeah that's Jerry Lagara's type of boat if you know what I mean so when when we would pull into port it was uh some shit was gonna go down you know that totally well dude man um I gotta say thank you for your service thank you for being you it's fucking great to have you on the show if you ever need uh a place to come and post up dude I got a I got a bed for you if you want to visit town man oh my god thank you i you know Bremerton is such a part of my heart that I mean uh a part of my heart will always be in Bremerton you know I I just I I look at you know my feed on social media and stuff it's all Bremerton people nice like three people here well like awesome dude well well thank you so much you guys for having me on and letting me tell you a little bit of my story and I love it man we miss you buddy and we love thank you for listening to the show I want to plug uh another Anton band though that I'm a really big fan of the anchor wind lass yes I love anchor like my some of my favorite fucking songs I've ever heard honestly if you haven't heard the anchor wind lass go find them on band camp yeah buddies it is on bandcamp we haven't played for a for a while we're we kind of wound wound that down and you know but that yeah that was uh a band I started here when I moved back so yeah it's really good if you like kind of uh I call it like Americana punk rock kind of has that vibe to it oh I I really appreciate you saying that and yeah I love it well as long as we're plugging bands as speaking of neutral boy they have a new record out as well that is yeah I saw that I need to get that should be showing up in in my mail here any day so right on well in order in honor of that I think after we get done with the YouTube video I'm gonna find my favorite performance of Boys in Bad Hair with the Anton fucking perm dude just like shaking back and forth hard as fuck the front Bremerton as fuck.

SPEAKER_01

Maybe the most Bremerton music video ever it was a very Bremerton video for I love it dude anyways uh unless you boys got anything else I think this is a good time to uh button this bitch up Jerry Lagar you got anything else I think I'm good all right I think I'm good too um thanks for listening to B Town Stories with Schnazzle and Jerry I'm Schnezzle I'm Jerry and until next time my friend you guys take her easy i think thatown stories is a red cobra production created produced and written by Schnazzle Simpkins and Jerry Lagar.

SPEAKER_03

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