التحول من الوظيفة التقنية إلى قيادة الموارد البشرية - مروة كرورة - في حلقة 13# من قلم الإدارة

في هذه الحلقة من بودكاست "قلم الإدارة"، يستضيف محمد الكثيري كوتش مروة كرورة، في حوارٍ حول "انسنة العمل" وقيادة الكوادر البشرية. تستعرض مروه مسارها المهني غير التقليدي، مؤكدة أن الوظيفة مجرد سبيل وليست هوية، وأن التميز في أي مجال يعتمد على اكتساب مهارات قابلة للنقل والفضول المعرفي.

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Hello. Hallis.

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Mish Hawiya Abad. Anna Ilbamil Wazifa Ms. B, Le area manager. Literally. Ruha milli short like the Mesat. Ma al-Shagera Michel Basella, Yani Fuyallah. Garal. Howlot is allah ucam.

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Hello.

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Hat talemir. Tala will magali lint a few myshabu, italem idoritil afrotem edoble mustlah, stakeholder management di meleka la for the ediriatamakan minha. It's transferable.

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Hello.

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Okay?

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Oh, how they amwadan.

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Tabal. Lizeth walil akher. It allimit is dear maharifatak, who zebir gahlil akhar warifatu. Wukul transferable skills. Would you know sad?

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Why the lefar?

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Okay.

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Fan alita dear that hath the gruba, when I fa in the darubason are of shangahola. Mefin me.

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Coach Marwa Illi Ma and the Nash Aminal Bidaya. Kifenahui b ni hamalwok.

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Ya my coaching.

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Liva. La inni ha sounding board, mahtag mireya sofia. Al-Muqtasava. Yani masal. Anna min al marat Rahum afruad amil coaching, one of a senior executive, Rogel, Wakur, Kibir, Musaiter, Hagaba, Azima, who's Tadat Secretary Barra, Mr. Fulam. Oh my kid. Ali Yani had a Dorita Middy Homeda Fabri Taman is the girlstaff. Okay. Oh Dabian I see Zayala eloktak Bill Mozafin. Elli Huma Ada will eda weight with Kalima Gbisara. Elli be a du harot. But what are the kill? Yeah, I'll be Rogelba and Hamsour Bain di ea il ablik anabasal kutbakal and ho a be only anabasil kutbatkal to okay. Ru I say gamal oksim and whom she a haday ulu helack ayakadem. Ali anan com had the moboto let kallem wab the asma nyimfa to yimfa. Okay in il coaching le innu mishad uh judgement hook we ta tabir it's the grubel insane insane for musama wa zifi well if you call it mwayan elf you know what mwayan he tahtarim at the grubel insane be cool a badha's manawiya will gasadiya will zihniya will will nafsia.

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Hello.

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Jimidni, um takhdira that it has coaching but the cut and the other.

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Hello.

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And then um, at least um the ma'am Kif cana to Kifalty Atwaka Mhatagabal coaching.

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Priority bank.

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Can mishmohim and insane.

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Transactional.

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Hundred per cent.

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Wow.

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Mansumet Priam and Insenia Wal Khadamia Woman Zumit Priam and Massasa Madertish. In the probation period, you can't do it. Okay.

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Okay.

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Hello.

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Then you marhala probation period.

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Um how come and wah had an uh Hassel Malumat Akhar.

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Okay, Tana Naharda.

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Okay.

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Hello, Yani. Fisitium.

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Bizuct. Can it six months? Biza. Um Starfaman and M shirwa Holis Malti Fotram Lebia. Kin is this more. Can it take a joint ventures?

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And the brohat will call competent. Head office.

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Okay.

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Financial institution. Okay, so you can't get it.

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But la it one ad of cutter, you mean whom Yaniana is niquta whom I home. Which was very little. Oh. That was shocking. Definitely.

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Decent Yanni.

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Decent. Relief.

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Okay.

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But so one of our clients. Can it tell the client? Lila in a filwe teda Anna Kunta Sura Tawa Fukiya Mahawit and Muasasa. Tenasit Muhagaba. Andi Hibra Melia Amika Andita Lokayot Shorsiti Munes the Gidden Gidden Dilhawi al Muasasiya. Pentahuakan ibtarulunia to the khil muasasa.

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Mayhem Wallace. Wow, do you mean? Oh but there were an asset. Ah, hello.

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In the sooner nage ayankee. Udi minil essacy nichtor a kunate was not na ge. Bidun ehna ehna we're wired for connection. Bidun alakat al insania, al benne. Ship humustahi lili inseninka.

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Dob um kunti sarihaman of search will share.

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Hi.

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Um, so waiting.

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I'm not coaching.

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I shall enough I shan't have Sulli trigger coaching at a called Muk concept about you would enter a few months.

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That we are family. But that taqrade is a very important thing.

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Come on. Ah, okay.

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K talk HR consultancy. Stand for what the bin hinsemia kalim Kalam.

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Absolut.

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HR consultancy.

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Oh.

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Cananda Chania Andiya wandi ruqya wandi ilman taqad in mishbich tulmahia muman mumaicana Wil Sabilil Mukhra Gilwahit here in say. Woman Bada na to educate the client. Giddan. Giddan. Haifin nafkrid hawiya Khalif Neha W Arifna Resistance. U Badana na mil HR consultancy system policy or procedures basic. We need deha taste insane. Aman uh mashwaki bir uh job description. Niktip job description. Job description. Le m talotoshar elf uh was if oh Alko M alal mashru uh Alina lah na Lesim na standardization. Okay standardization the e that it noshar kata muha sebi y standardized e mudiril i'm hinahir mudiril i'm hinahiril mudiral i'm hina i i there is no way of standardization. I wanna standardization as sample, what inha la ina in nihte kor el insen wakwa ala el bottom line Basha La inilwana Hagib Rois Meli Yani CFO fi wuzartil mele ekid ekid ekid mayunfashi ebnfil CFO fuzartisia kid mayunfashi ebenf CFO fouzart se governance will system will policy will procedure muqtalif tema mehta ging characteristics mtalif. Wingna ngfum te geh l individualization bita role in il insane il hai kun hina mishbessawimet il insaneya hina r hina rhina rhina womina ba'andina case studies Hello in the insanity mu'asasa can effect al bottom line simply my drop description. Hello metalfinu rashentana talot tosh. Uh whether it key talk, tehodel shape, illehna nitmanne. Hello, and sanit and was the set.

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Habrinal hina coaching will consultancy.

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Okay. Rakhib.

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Okay.

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Mishdah. Wanna dish mena avan feduru me to kuna sakaf al-muasaseya muaikana a duru racabi hai ba mumaicana sakafaf al mu asaseya muansana a duru racabi haikun muansana.

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Yes.

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Tabi had uldi ilfarkabala metkun mumaikana bikun edeta akop Halchivina Darach kadira.

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Taba, wa rekabala metkun muansana, bitun edeta ad in alfi alamat mumaiza methulin.

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Ah taba Iwila metli in muasas akidakula mutiha.

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Talbin uh Tara fagarolo.

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Alifla metlii Iwamatut la albeit with li layelko lom sectine flahgarolla. Awematlii mefish uh constructive conflict.

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Fart farth.

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Fish khilf. Mu' assasi. Halil wufork diala minasam til mu assasi. Wakakaman you arena in il HR Durha Muhammash. Okay, Fana andi a tahirir asu fil ala, what tethbit asesum lil guzur. Fa il biasul in il qiyeda uhzur will will call a read a hill tesna guzur. And my fish we had fewer.

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Fant a gift to the man answered.

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Okay, and I couldn't coaching the uh surgeon Tabibot Lil Raya. Okay. In your surgery, but he did ullack an allahist an haifa irayak to la tage. She's his assistant nurse. Ali intimata rofish into li ha kutilena ba foc or fi, umakanha handi wa ataruha shufu. How fellow and dushua ba the tala chur tisain yum recovery rate and do it hasin be twenty-five per cent. Lafi hawa, bafi and senna lilamala. Ma ba ish ho beyam lilamalaya, we have a truef mineral system. 25% for recovery rate.

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Uh metalwa had the break. Uh will break had a band my conel break.

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Okay, well come on zaff.

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Halina nah delin. Kulyo. Definitely break. Reflection go.

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Definitely.

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Okay. Shuan.

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Ilhadaf.

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Anashuarit.

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An Izi? Il modahi bashwe. Tabam. Okay? Il muhim. Bemana asah. Il il il ha'i Muhim.

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And yasa William.

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Okay. Okay? Il mun il muhrok shaklu in na gare.

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And it is your lehtai.

unknown 1:27:31

Okay.

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Executive director said.

unknown 1:30:33

Okay?

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Bizar coach mumito e ho wada Toban Il profiling bitea Hayay tu me il profiling bitea mu assessu. The title.

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Oh can la he's a little bit more than a little bit.

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But I'm not sure what I'm saying. It was a shock. Definitely, definitely. Personal matters. Okay?

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Okay.

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Tabahan, Tabahan, Tabah. Yeah. Anna no hard dog. But the little thief was shot to nerd. System. Rodil Fair in Tadi from October me that muheen. Coaches, when home, Kelem, Gamil, Alwara, Haiga Phenomenal. Well when e we designers, Mishadra Kir, like will corporate communication, amar over campaign. Phenomenal. Okay. Is they nehmi il husou se yon? Ah, Mumkin, titril.

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Mumkin.

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Tobahan. But say Hata Mili. Tobahan.

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Ton sahon.

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With the right governance.

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With the right governance. Yanimetlan uh yet yet to have a bali metal an whistleblower. Extreme.

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Okay? Hamdulilla. Wa khasatan. Fiddow little imarat. Min aglato il ahlaq. Well agmal, wal aksar, well angah, wa al median. Okay. Il HR lazim yatahawa l'illa. Min at ta'allum wasameh lil insane. Bilchhat lia ta'alum mish lwata al Haili At Tagannub hat tal yuhtu wa ywaqob. Ya la hamul masuliya ki dan ma kalim shinal and sanadi ya mina. La la la la la la la mishri sela lil in file.

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Halk bea halinangul.

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With them bele yo toffar.

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Hello.

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What a mettagarud min il insane min eggle al makein. Tula. Thawa. Tawa ya. Anna had the nahardabash my mentor, Maritin Fisha.

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And then Shulfarakma bin coaching or mentor.

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Okay. And my mentor is a coach for an almond complicated show. Okay. U la matuhti, you are kni shahar. Faqwasabak. Del mentor. Andu i draq wway. Tik dar tu wa riik i mikak al-Hakhikya tu wa riik sulukieta kita kaju fiya, l'intaq ta sabtaha bisabta gai ruba k-sabak. Tak shiflik mota kadehtak rosihha u twaliik is akenit lusalha kwa l-du dakha. Weikun handu al-Qhudraq al-Hakir Bidum al-Hukmalik. Bi Makinak mindetak. Ubi wasa imenak. Madarakak hai gnitok me aliftuk. Fitagaruba kissovak. U anabashu hagar o ehagid. Fana mine a lit nym for butwe in one coach woman.

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Um coaching.

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Hmm.

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Shuit palabla.

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Eh timad.

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A timadat.

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Le inni me say coach the right cool had a big coach. Well that it was metal asap.

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Taman.

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Unitalem min mu assassa. Moatamada? So he wat seat. Allah did it silly coaching. L International Coach Federation and huge platform BTD Kham mileni he'd al no salh sahih. Then haga il-coaching how I getting coached. Hello. Tell it hag al-maharifa. Wal hikma. Mustafa. Yeah executive coach. An a handi minashagea shageah wal wakahha. Lukuit in the asal suel sa nahandi al-kudra to have difficult conversation. Falam yigi. Wa egi uhu inta khaif mini shaflu diligencly. Complexityf hamha illa dares. Would you have a coaching? And we have to do this. Learning bat. Massive accountability. Ma il direct L2. Line it thing. What's your expertise? Mean stakeholders. Critical short term. Critical long term.

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Bird number.

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Well done. Hi.

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Hassel did the shop.

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Just do it. Why is Daro into Habiuk the cry? Lamadhaya run to.