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EP.35 Ryan Gosling
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In this Episode, hosts Tyler and Justin dive into a double feature of Ryan Gosling’s most brooding performances, exploring the stylish tension of Drive (2011) and the generational drama of The Place Beyond the Pines (2012). The episode focuses on Gosling's mastery of the "stoic, silent type" character, analyzing his physical acting, chemistry with costars, and his ability to convey deep emotion with minimal dialogue. After the hosts rank Ryan's top 10 performances.
Hello, hello. Welcome to Newbies to Movies. I'm Tyler. And I'm Justin. This is a podcast where we like to talk about talk about new movies. This week's theme or of an actor, Ryan Gosling, one of the bigger names in Hollywood right now, specifically because he came out with a new movie, Budget Hill Mary, which we will talk about throughout the podcast. First, we would like to start this podcast with doing a little connections game where we try to do like if you know New York Times connections where four things to attach to like one specific like subject or hint or something, we'll do it but with movies specifically. Last time we did this, it was extremely hard. So we're hoping that this one will go a little bit better. It took us a while. Yeah. Okay. So we'll say all the movies first. So it's Babylon, The Martian, The Hunt for Red October, Moneyball, Moby Dick, Pirates of the Caribbean, The Curse of the Black Pearl, Master and the Commander, The Far Side of the World. Never seen that. Yeah, this is gonna be rough. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um some big titles in here. Yeah. Okay. So there's like four or five movies I've never even heard of.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So Pivot's care being in Huntford by October, the Squid and the Whale, I'm gonna guess has something to do with the water and Moby Dick. They're all like water produced.
SPEAKER_02Let's try. Oh one away. One away.
SPEAKER_00That's what it would be. Thinking maybe I don't know this Master and Commander movie. Who knows if that has something to do with the ocean? Oh there's the one about this like stock trading. Uh big short, Wolf of Wall Street, Dumb Money, and I'm thinking the word like money.
SPEAKER_01Money involved name. Because Moneyball, Million Dollar Baby, Dollar, and the Fistful of Dollars, and then Dumb Money. Yeah, do that. Do that. Let's see.
SPEAKER_02Bang.
SPEAKER_00Alrighty. Um Martian. How does that fit in? Probably nothing, but Margot Robbie is in Babylon and Suicide Squad. And the Big Short. She is in the Big Short as well. And she's in the Wolf of Wall Street.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Did you just say Awesome?
SPEAKER_01So Margot Robbie was the other one for the Babylon, the Big Short, Wolf of Wall Street, and Suicide Squad. Alrighty. The Martian Moby Dick. Isn't Moby Dick? I never read it. It's about a guy against a whale, pretty much, right?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I think so. What's Allegiant about? I think you were on the right track with it being like ocean-oriented. I don't know what Allegiant Speed or Master and Commander are about.
SPEAKER_01You try Moby Dick and the Master and the Commander? Whoa. We got it. What is it? Take place on the Sidney. Take place on the new year. Yeah. I guess the Squid and the Whale doesn't what what is that about? I don't know. And then the other one was Jeff Daniels. We would have never gotten that one. Yeah, we wouldn't have gotten that.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah, I know Jeff Daniels is, but I wouldn't have known he's in those other three movies. Yeah. Hold on, dude. I gotta look up this.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01It's a autobiography comedy drama following two brothers as they navigate the emotional fallout of their parents' divorce. That's not that's yep. Definitely nothing to do with the sea.
SPEAKER_00Justin Jesse Eisenberg's in there.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Laura Lenny. Hey, we kind of did really good that time.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. We kind of cooked. Awesome. Cool, Justin. You want to start out with like something you've watched this week and want to talk about?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I went and saw Project Hill Mary and IMAX. Um, I think this is the second weekend it's been out at the time we're filming this. Um, I'm gonna be honest, I've never seen a movie in IMAX, and I think it's gonna ruin seeing regular movies for me. Uh, it was pretty amazing. The sound was amazing. The one thing I didn't like about the seats we were in, I had to like look over people's shoulders to see the bottom of the screen. It was that the screen was that big, but really amazing movie. I wouldn't have probably picked a different movie besides maybe Interstellar to see the first time an IMAX movie. Yeah, pretty amazing movie too. Um, I think you've seen it as well, and we're doing Ryan Gosling this week for that reason, but really well done story. I've never read the book, but I got a lot of like the Martian arrival interstellar vibes from it, and I really liked all those movies, so yeah, I I really liked it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I really liked it too. I saw it the day it came out, like the Thursday night. Um also saw it on IMAX and I thought it was really well done. There's a lot more kids in the theater than I thought there would be. Just because the Martian was not I mean it was a funny film, but it very science-y based. Well, this one I think stayed because I read the book as well, Project Hail Mary, and the the science of the book is really complicated, and I think it's a good idea for the movie to not go as science-y into it so it's yeah, can apply to a bigger audience because if you get super into it, I think you lose a lot of people. I think they were really good at like during surface level, but then still being accurate in what they were doing. Yeah. For the most part. Heard there was like some stuff in like the spaceship, like the way he was doing some of the stuff that it was like, I don't think it would have worked that way. Like, but I was like, okay, that's like a little bit nitpicking when we're talking about a movie where the life is. Um I really liked it. Um, I thought it was a really good performance by him. At the end of the podcast, we're gonna rank his performances. I'm interested to see where I would put it because I think this is also a very unique performance for him, um, which I think he is a very unique actor.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and I know some people had some issues with the things they changed over from the book, but I thought it was uh pretty good from what I've heard people talk about with the book. Some small things, right? Like you said, the science also there's a lot more taking place on Earth, uh kind of with like the the world governments falling and into chaos, basically. Would have been cool to see, but I also like it from this perspective, right? He never really felt like he fit in on Earth, and now, spoiler alert, he feels like he has found somewhere to fit in. Um, and then in the book, too, I've heard that he kind of wants to stay on Erid, which is interesting.
SPEAKER_01I mean, you kind of see that at the end of it. Um spoilers. Uh um I adapting it from the book, I mean it's a super long book. Books are really hard to adapt to, get all the details of it. That's why a lot of people say read the book, because if you want to get like a more detailed experience from it. Um I think I mean the movie's already two and a half hours, already a super long movie. There's not much else you can really add into it. Um now, whether or not they could cut some stuff, there are like a lot of like like long dude scenes out. Like, for example, when he first sees Rocky, I feel like that whole like entrance was like they could have cut off like five minutes from that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01It would have been just as effective. They were a little bit too much buildup, you know.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01But then it is what it is. Like I still think a really good adaptation that you have to take out stuff when it comes to a book.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I guess where was bro when arrival was happening? Because he he figured out how to talk to Rocky in like two minutes. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Or mine, I'm gonna like rank my top since we're about three months into uh 2026. I wanted to rank my top five movies so far that I've seen. So far, I've seen 17 movies uh new this year. And starting off with number five, I'm gonna rank Pretty Lethal. It's a hor horror action, more action-based film that follows like a group of like five ballerinas that go to like I think it's Hungary, Hungary, and then they're like surviving from like a mob that's trying to kill them. And then it's really cool because they're really good at uh being ballerinas, but then they like attach blades to the bottom of their feet, and as they're like doing their dances, they like cut each other, like like cut guys' throats, and it's pretty it's pretty dope. There's a really cool action film that I really didn't see being that good, but I watched it on one of my flights. Number four, I have How to Make a Killing is the one with Glenn Powell. I saw some really bad reviews about this film, but I personally really enjoyed it. It involves him like trying to get like a a big trust, like because like he's part of one of the richest families ever, but they kind of disown him. But in order to get that money, he ends up trying to kill everybody else in the family because he's still owed that trust if everyone else dies in front of him. Um Margaret Qually's in it, so for that reason, I think you should check it out, Justin. Big fan. Uh number three, I have The People We Meet on Vacation is a rom-com on uh Netflix. I really enjoyed it. I think Emily Bader and Tom Bly's like romance in that is very realistic or like very uh believing. And then also like I think Emily Bader is just like a really talented actress, and I really enjoyed the film. I thought it was like a very classical, like classic like rom-com, like nothing too crazy, but like really good to watch. I've already re-watched it like three times because it's just a fun watch. Number two is 28 years later, The Bone Temple. I gave this four and a half stars. I really enjoyed this film. The first one that came out last year, 28 years later, I enjoyed, but I saw it as a build-up film to where there wasn't a lot of like actual like conclusion from that film where I was like, like, nothing too exciting. And then this one, you could see the beat build-up leading to something, and it really led to something. Ralph uh Fiennes, who we saw on Schimmler's list as well, he's super talented and he's crazy in this. Jack O'Connell, who was just in Sanders last year, is another villain in this film. It's really good. The kid acting is incredible, kind of a gory movie, but it's a it's a zombie-based movie, so of course it's gonna be really gory. And then lastly, number one is so far is Project Hill Mary. I also gave it four and a half stars. I really enjoyed Project Hill Mary, just like the cinematography at all, and then hearing how they directed it. It's all like realistic prosthetics as well. Like the it's actually puppeteering with Rocky, it's not CGI. So like Ryan Gossing was actually like acting with that rock right there, rather than like talking to like a tennis ball like a lot of uh CGI does nowadays. Um yeah, I was really impressed, just like how it looked. It was just so cool, such a cool film. I think there's some like plot hiccups there here and there, but like I feel like that's nitpicking on such like a fantastical movie.
SPEAKER_00Dude, I forgot to mention when when we went and seen it, I heard at least four separate people walking out of the theater being like, that was way too long. And I had no issues with it. If anything, I was wanting like a little bit more. Interesting.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I I feel like maybe I mean it's two and a half hours. Here I have some people that definitely think it's a little too long. I just think like some scenes were definitely drawn out where they could have like not. Um I think the cutting between different times I thought was really well done, but I've seen some reviews that didn't like it, like how they were cutting back and forth. They thought it didn't work, but I did. Uh I thought Sandra Huler, who plays like the lead German woman, I thought she was really really uh good in it as well. Shout out Harry Styles song just coming up in the middle of the film. I was like, okay. Yeah, overall, I just really enjoyed it. Really good performance from Ryan Gossin as well.
SPEAKER_00And dude, we're like so blessed this year. Like, there's such good stuff coming out. Yeah. Like I'm thinking about the Oscars for next year, and I'm like, my God, it's gonna be a bloodbath.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, if I didn't see already like so many really like big titles coming out, who knows if they're gonna all work? You never know. Yeah. Yeah. Because I mean, like, no one's missed before, so like I wouldn't be surprised if like maybe he misses, maybe he like, but I doubt it, but maybe some other directors miss. Yeah, maybe some other directors miss. There's just so many big titles that you don't want to make predictions too early. But I'd be surprised with how much like Project Hill Mary is getting loved right now and the box office that I wouldn't be surprised if it fits into like a because it is early just like Centers was last year. I wouldn't be surprised if it fits into like a centers role or more so like a F1 role into in the big picture race, where I think I think it has a good chance of getting nominated and then getting some other below-the-line nominations.
SPEAKER_00Well, there's also stuff that always pops up, right? Like I think this movie uh with uh Robert Pattinson and Zendaya is very intriguing, the drama. I have no idea what it's about based on the trailers, and I think that'll draw people in, so we'll see.
SPEAKER_01I've I've heard part of what the plot's about, and I'm not gonna give it away because I want you to go watch it yourself. It's gonna be interesting to see how the public perceives it. What I've heard. Another challengers for Zendaya. Um I think more controversial, way more controversial for both of them. It's quite an interesting turn where like they're gonna be part of like some of the biggest movies in the world this year. They're both gonna be in Dune. One is gonna be in Spider-Man, they're both gonna be in the Odyssey. It's like and then they'd come out with this movie together that like just straight up like challenges like a lot of stuff. I heard. I heard there's just there's one scene that I mean it comes out this next week. If I have time, I'm definitely gonna go see it. Because like there are two of my more anticipating actors right now that are working, and just seeing them like actually go out there and do a role while Euphoria is also coming out like that same weekend. It's and Day is just cooking this year, too. She's got so much going on. She maybe get nominated for an Oscar and two Golden Globes for lead actor or lead actress and lead actress in like a show as well. Like it's insane.
SPEAKER_00Has that ever happened? Like, has she been nominated for two has anybody ever been nominated for two movies in the same year?
SPEAKER_01So two movies, yes. Scarlet Johansson was for JoJo Rabbit and Marriage Story 19. This most recent past year, Amanda Seaford was nominated for Testament Van Lee and a show, I forget the show name at the Golden Globes, but then she wasn't nominated for either in the Emmy or Oscars, but it's insane. Yeah. Pattinson also may get some love at supporting actor because he's doing like three different supporting actor roles. Yeah. All very unique if you've seen them. It'd be cool to see Ryan Gossin get some love, but it's still super early. Super early.
SPEAKER_00It's super early, and this is definitely like leaning towards more of a popcorn movie that I don't know that the Oscars would give as much love to.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but that's what I thought about Michael B. Jordan last year, and then he ended up coming back to win it. So you never know. Yep. And Matt Damon did get nominated for the Martian when that came out. So that's true.
SPEAKER_00I'm excited. Sorry, one more thing. They're working on uh I guess this guy wrote the Martian Project Hail Mary and then a book called Artemis. I'm excited because apparently they're already working on that movie as well. So should be that's good.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. It seems like they just pick good directors that like really care about like the the book and like really adapting it well, and like they really go all in. Like the Martian was really I mean, it was really Scott, so of course he went all in. That's what he's known for. But yeah, that he was using like real life sets and all that, and I think that's what makes these this film so good, is that you could tell a lot of like the space shuttle and all that that isn't CGI. Like he like those are real sets that they're doing. He was like on lines while doing it in the space shuttle, which he said was like really hard to act at first because you're just constantly moving around in weird ways. But he thought it was really, realistic as well. Cool, cool, awesome. So, yeah, this week is Ryan Gosling. Um, we decided to switch up. Originally we were planning on doing someone else, but we decided to push her back because one of her films was like 20 bucks on Amazon, and we were like, uh, let's do Ryan Gosling right now because he's probably one of the biggest names for the next month because of this new movie, and hopefully in a couple months, a month or two, that movie's either free or a lot cheaper. But yeah, so Ryan Gossing this week, he's a Canadian-based actor. He's 45 right now, but he really came out like started movies in the 2000s, so he's really been part of movies for the past 26 years. He started off with Remember the Titans and then has gone on a crazy run of like just going on different types of movies. I feel like there's not one role that's like the other. He just constantly switches up. Some movies are a miss, but like a lot of them he he brings something to them. What do you think of Ryan Gosling?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, no, I was just gonna say him and Remember the Titans. He was talking about it this week with uh Jason and Travis Kelsey, and he was basically saying, like, I could get recognized for something, but somebody in in the comments is gonna be like, he's a liability at corner, dude.
SPEAKER_01I see that in every every comment about him. It's like, yeah, this movie's good and all right, but like liability at corner, he just gets cooked.
SPEAKER_00It's so funny. No, I've just like been doing a lot of research on him as an actor this week, and honestly, I know people kind of crap on him for you know doing these some of these big blockbuster movies. You think of like uh Gray Man, people are calling him a sellout basically, but you start looking at his all his movies that he's done, and it's like, damn, every single one has like above an 85% on Rotten Tomatoes. Like that doesn't happen by accident. And even, you know, the ones where he's the lead, the ones where he's a supporting actor, and the ones where he's in it for 20 minutes, it's like it still hits for some reason. I'm not really sure why, but we have to start respecting him a little more.
SPEAKER_01I feel like Yeah, yeah. I feel like he's just got so many good movies, and he like he doesn't he saw for a little bit, which I was uh with like the first man, the gray man, and then the fall guy, but it seems like he's coming back to his own. I mean, he's doing Star Wars next year, we'll see how that is. But like I've seen Project Hilmary and then Blade Runner. That's like okay. I I could see him doing really well in a Star Wars movie if it's done a certain way. It just depends on what the director's type, but they try to do like a dark Star Wars movie. He's kind of like the perfect guy for it. I really don't know any other big actor that could fit that well.
SPEAKER_02Mm-hmm. Yeah, I'm excited to see.
SPEAKER_01He's a very very impressive like resume, and he's still like, I think, still in his prime. He's still got a good like 10 to like 20 years to like come out with different stuff. And I think that, yeah, like we just said, Project Homer just adds onto that. But the two movies that we did this week are like kind of right at the beginning of his like crazy run here. I would say 2006 when he did Half Nelson, and and of course, New Book Notebook came out in 2004. Um, that was his big like coming out film, I feel like, and then Half Nelson was like, Oh wow, he can do like a serious film, and then he just starts rattling off these different types of films where he's just playing completely different kind of characters. Yeah. Oh first we're gonna do Drive, um, the movie that came out in 2011. So Justin, if you want to take it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Um, I didn't really know where to uh fit this in, but damn, that opening scene was so tough and it misled me so much because I thought this was about to be like just your cheesy Fast and the Furious action driving movie, and that looked so cool, but I really enjoyed the plot because the plot was heavily driven on not being a lot of dialogue. It was very, I don't know, up to the viewer's interpretation of the plot oriented. And so it kind of follows Ryan Gosling as a driver and skilled stump man, and he's a getaway driver, like a getaway driver for hire for criminals, and he's been kind of warming up to his new uh neighbor, her and her young son, Venezuel, and her husband's currently in jail. Once he gets out, he kind of works with Ryan Gosling to go on a heist of his own to kind of pay back some bad people. And the driver just gets himself in a really bad situation and yeah, just kind of goes downhill from there. But overall, I gave the plot an eight. I thought it was really good.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I I don't think the plot was all that convoluted other than like kind of like the mock connection. I feel like it was a little bit like confusing about like, well, wait, so like why are they in so much big trouble? It kind of connects it in the way where he's like, Well, I stole from this guy because it was a good opportune time, but then hired like the wrong or hired a fake heist for us to get it back or for you for us to look like we got it back, but then like ended up not hiring the right person because the driver is really good at his job, pretty much. Yeah. But I thought this I thought the plot was really well done, and uh it's interesting that you say that like it was not really reliant on dialogue, which I I really enjoyed as well, because quite different from most action films where you get like a lot of cheesy lines. Nothing against John Wick. I think John Wick's really fun movie, but like John Wick has a lot of like very cheesy lines that could could fit into a movie like Drive really well, but like I'm glad that it didn't. It kind of stands apart in that way.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, there were so many times where I was sitting there and I got to come up with kind of my own interpretation of what was going on because Ryan Gosling was just staring stoically at the room. So you kind of have to sit there and figure out what he's thinking based on what everybody else is saying, which I thought was really cool and interesting way to go about the m doing the movie, which we'll get into that with dialogue. But the characters I gave an eight, I thought the characters were all pretty drawn out and well done. I think it kind of asks you have to have like a prior understanding of I don't know, just mobs and gangs in general. Like you kind of know Brian Cranston is just kind of a money junkie. He just thinks that every business he's gonna start is gonna go do really well. Yeah. For Isaac, obviously him and Ryan Gosling's character have a lot in common. I think they're both uh good guys who do some bad things sometimes. And it's about them kind of trying to get get themselves out of those sticky situations for his wife and his uh son. And then Christina Hendricks's character was kind of only in it for a couple minutes, but I thought overall the characters were good, and I gave it an eight.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I really enjoyed Ryan Gossley's performance in this specifically as the driver. You could see where he used a lot of this kind of character that he built in Blade Runner, I feel like. I feel like that's a direct like connection of characters. And then Carrie Mulligan, I thought, was really intriguing. This is right after she came out with the movie that she got nominated for an Oscar. It was like so she was like kind of a big name at the point, but then it's a very side character in this film. Oscar Isaac is also a pretty big name, maybe not at this point in his career when this movie came out. That now he is. And to see him as like a very side character. Brian Cranston, this is like breaky bad, like breakout days. And he plays this like kind of weak character, I would say. Like a businessman that kind of just goes wrong. But then also like the driver takes a chance trying to help out this family. The wrong person to try to help, but he did it all because he loves the woman, Irene.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Getting into cinematography, this movie looked really amazing, uh, very neo-noir aesthetic of LA. I thought it was a very effective use of light. I su seen this one guy talking about how if this movie was made like two years later, LA switched all their street lights to LEDs so it wouldn't have looked any cooler. Um it would have looked pretty like bland and drawn out. But the use of light in this film really stood out to me. And then just using the natural street lighting, yeah, it made like kind of like a dream-like atmosphere, like a I guess more like a nightmare scenario. But I just thought it looked really cool. I gave it a nine.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I mean, Gosling somehow finds like some of the best cinematographers out there and just like decides to like film a movie with them. I've I've found a lot from a lot of his uh filmography. He just he just he knows how to pick a movie and then also knows how to pick a movie that looks really well. And this movie is just definitely one of those, especially for a lower budget film compared to the other films in his filmography. But they really use already the lights in LA. Uh, we were talking about before recording this how he really likes LA type of films. Lala Land is a big LA film, but this is like the other side of LA. So not as like a bright and shiny in-your-face kind of LA, but more of like a dark LA that's like behind the scenes kind of thing going on. And not everyone, not everything's bright and rainbows over here. It's actually like some dark stuff goes on in like big cities like that.
SPEAKER_00Don't forget Blade Runner too. Yep. Um, and then getting into dialogue, I gave it a nine. I thought the dialogue was pretty amazing in this movie. Um, more or less kind of the effective use of non-dialogue. I think it really a lot of scenes really sit with the the viewer in that sense. One of my favorites being when he was in the elevator with Irene and he stomps the guy's head in on the elevator floor, they're just kind of staring at each other for two minutes before she walks out and just leaves. It's like so effective at really making the viewer think to themselves, hey, what's what's each character thinking here rather than being told what to think? Um, I thought that was really good. And then my favorite line from the movie was um using actual dialogue was when he's sitting down with Benicio and they're watching cartoons. He says, You know, is that the bad guy? And Benicio says, Yeah. The driver says, How can you tell? Because he's a shark. And then the driver says, Well, there's no good sharks. Um, I think that's really important for pretty much all the characters in this movie. A lot of good people that just end up in some bad situations, doing some bad things, which yeah, it kind of led the plot of that movie.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah, I would say that with like Oscar Isaac, Brisek, Brian Cranston, and the driver, Ryan Gossin's character, all three of them are good guys, catching themselves in bad situations, a turner rye, all because of the real bad guy, Ron Perlman's character, really being doing something really bad that ends up having to take a bunch of people's life and even his own.
SPEAKER_00And then the set design, I gave it an eight. I thought it was pretty great. Obviously, we were just talking about LA. Kind of just uh leaned into the urban lighting, uh, very bright pops of color, very minimalist and very stylish locations, obviously, set in LA. Um, I thought it was really well done.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and then also like the panning around, especially during the violence scenes. Um, or even like, for example, the slowing down in the elevator where like they like connect to each other, they kiss, and it goes right into him like fighting, but it's like kind of in slow motion as it's happening. I thought it was really cool as well. That may be more part of like editing, but uh I think just a lot of like very like on the point where like stuff is happening, but you're focused on Ryan Gossling's character's face. And then also some of the driving scenes were really cool too, where the they're like low level at the wheel length, um, that were pretty impressive.
SPEAKER_00And then for acting, I gave it an eight. I thought Ryan Gosling's performance really stood out. Um, masterclass and minimalism, obviously, we talked about the dialogue and him not having to talk as much. Uh, but very subtle tension, silence, and nonverbal storytelling. I looked it up, he had only 116 lines of dialogue, which might seem like a large number, but it's not for an hour and 45-minute movie. Very, very good job at focusing on intense stares, and damn, can this guy stare? Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Um, again, like you're coming from remember the Titans in the notebook. He does like some. I mean, half Nelson maybe could see some like resemblance of like a serious drama kind of character. Um, but this just resembles like how talent and how like his range as an actor is very impressive. And like you said, minimalistic performance from him. Right when the movie was like in development, the director reached out to Ryan Gosling really early on. So there really was no other options for the director. He really wanted him, uh, went with him down the road, and then the other actors were added on as we were as they were going.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so I heard this movie originally was supposed to be a different director and Hugh Jackman, and it was supposed to be kind of more of a cheesy Fast and the Furious style action movie. Then for whatever reason, the studio dropped him, switched to this director, and this director knew he wanted Gosling, which was pretty neat.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so what I'm reading up is that Platt contacted Ryan Gossing about it. Mm-hmm. And then he was strongly attached to the plot and Lily Roll. And then, yeah, they dropped Jackman and the director. Then Gossing signed off for Lily Roll, and then he was allowed to choose the director. Um, and that's when he chose Nicholas Reff, which I thought was quite interesting. But he was Gossing was like a very critical part of like the whole process, um, really like right after uh Hugh Jackman and Marshall got um canned.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, cool. Directing, getting into that, I gave it an eight. Very, very good job at kind of setting the atmosphere and the mood right from the get-go. I mean, that opening scene was pretty, pretty cool. Um, and I've read that he kind of blended like a European arthouse style with American genre filmmaking, which is neat. I don't know much about this director. I mean, I I don't see any real other movies that are like, oh, he did that one. It's kind of just this is it for him.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, he does another one with Ryan Gossing, only God for forgives. I haven't seen it, but yeah, maybe it'd be interesting to check out just because then back together. He seems to be really like into like action type of films, but also really focusing on like natural lighting and then as well as character studies.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Getting into soundtrack, I'm gonna add in sound design as well, because we watched this in Madison's room, and I guess Madison's dad was opening the windows upstairs because he thought there was like a car taste going on. Um but using the sound design and the soundtrack, it I think the soundtrack was uh did a really amazing job, especially when we talked about kind of the lack of dialogue. It used the soundtrack to kind of push forward narratives while the viewer was um kind of thinking about what the characters have going on in their heads, which I thought was a great thing.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, the soundtrack and sound effects is just really impressive in this film. Yeah, the the different blends of electronic and retro music throughout, and then even like the the silence deafening kind of sound when like he's doing action kind of scenes was I thought was also really impressive. When when they break when the two guys break into like the hotel room, uh it kind of deafens when he beats up the guy in the hot in the elevator, it deafens, kind of kind of resembling how he's going to fight or flight mode, and like himself, he's not listening to anything else, and he's kind of deaf to everything, so he's just focused on like what he's gotta do.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Another cool part of the soundtrack was the opening scene when uh he had the Clippers blasting on the radio, the radio call. And you know, I'm thinking like, oh, this guy's a big Clippers fan or something, and then come to find out he just wanted to know exactly when the game was ending to pull into the Clippers Staples Center parking lot and hide in a sea of people, basically, which was so tough and so well designed. Yeah, that right when that started off, I was like, okay, this is quite this is pretty cool. He's pretty good at his job. Like this guy's a pretty pretty good driver. I mean, even the criminals in the back are like, what is he doing? Like, radio's on 20 right now, it's blasting Clippers game. All I'm hearing is Blake Griffin goes for the dunk, and I'm like, what is happening?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, when I said Blake Griffin, I was like, oh wow, Lob City, Lob City Clippers, while this was filmed.
SPEAKER_00Niche pull, dude. Let's go. For the themes, I gave it an eight. Not as impressive as some of the themes I've seen in a lot of his other movies being really pushed home. Some things I really took from it were, you know, him being such a quiet protagonist and a driver at night, kind of his repressed emotions, I guess, and also the him being kind of that modern night protagonist, like we've seen in Blade Runner, um, and then the inevitability of one's nature, right? He kind of can't escape doing bad things, and I think he feels that way. Um, we see that when he's in the bar with that guy and the guy offers him another job, and he's like, get out of my face. You know, he doesn't really want to do the bad things, but he feels like he has to to protect good people. I think the themes were good. I think they could have been drawn out a little more. I wouldn't have minded 30 more minutes in this movie to learn a little bit more about his character, maybe.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I think maybe that's a part of the film though. Like that's why he's called the driver and you never really get his name. There's supposed to be this ominous feeling about him. It's kind of um I think that his character is very similar to like a lot of like cowboy characters back in like Western movie times, like Clint Eastwood type of character is very similar. Like the man with no name, where where you're not supposed to figure out his name. And rather he's just doing stuff because he's really good at it and he makes no apologies for it as he's going throughout this film. Um I I I think this is like an interesting, I wouldn't say a direct like Western, but very Western type of film to where he is like this anti-hero.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00That and I think you know, so much of his character is quiet because it's left up for viewer interpretation, right? That was kind of the main goal, was just let the viewer come up with ideas about him. Is he a good guy? Is he a bad guy? And let them argue about it so we get a hundred more million views on this. He's just like Deadpool. He's not good or bad. Yeah. Um, editing, I gave it a nine. I thought it was highly stylized. Editing style was done by Matthew Newman, and obviously the director, very slow burn, kind of like I mentioned earlier, looks like a bad dream. And I thought that was really well done.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I think we talked about it already before with like the sound effects editing as well as part of it, and then also then transitions, the editing styles with adding different parts of the music in, but then also like different character studies. Like I just think overall the editing was really well done.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and my overall score I gave was an 8.4 out of 10 or an 84. I've really enjoyed this movie. Definitely super rewatchable, I feel like, too. You can always kind of go back and turn this on. It's a it's a fun watch.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I gave it an 8.2 out of 10 or 82 out of 100. So I also really enjoyed this film. Really impressive film by him. I'm surprised I haven't seen this until now. Yeah. But yeah, I have a theory that uh the driver actually drives off and then becomes a h a high school or middle school teacher and uh name Rylan Grace. So his right name is actually Rylan Grace the whole time, and then he goes and saves the world ten years later.
SPEAKER_00I did like how that ending was though, because I mean Brian Cranston's character kind of talked about it, how he just randomly showed up one day. It's like it makes you wonder how long he's been doing this. Was he doing this in San Francisco before and got in a sticky, sticky situation, and now he's doing it in LA, or now he's going to San Jose or something, like he's just moving around doing this constantly. He's going to Albuquerque and then he's gonna see Walter White again.
SPEAKER_01He's back, wait a second. You got a brother? Yeah, you got a brother. He's like, Hey, I'm the cook. He's like, Oh no. The last time the cook didn't work out so well. Awesome, cool. Yeah, so uh the movie that the other movie that we're doing this week is Place Beyond the Pines, kind of like a really big cast kind of movie. Um so the cast is a actually kind of a saying. It's host Ryan Gosling, Bradley Cooper, Eva Mendez, um, Rose Byrne, Maharsha Ali, and then um Ben Middlesen, Ray Ray Leota, and then um some of the kid actors. I I don't really know the names all that well. I remember one of them um that I'll bring up a little bit later. But the pull-up follows three different characters as going through time. So first starts with Ryan Gosson's character as he figures out pretty much, or he's like a stop driver for the circus at this point. Uh then he figures out like a girl that he came that he hooked up with the summer before, has a kid, and it's his. Um, so he wants to stay there and like earn money for them. But the only way he really sees how is through his sketchy friend who they randomly see each other in the woods, and he's like, hey, come work for me. Then he starts doing ice for him, but then he becomes addicted to that adrenaline, and then he starts doing it on his own, gets caught in trouble, and that's why Bradley Cooper's character slightly comes in to the movie where they barely interact with each other but impact each other's lives for the rest of their lives, pretty much. And I don't want to give off too many spoilers, but then it crosses to Bradley Cooper's character based off of interaction that they have right away. Follow Bradley Cooper's character as he figures out that the police force actually isn't all that like structured and good, and he has to fight kind of like the good and evil of the world, but he ends up getting the good stick out of the situation by throwing the other police officers under the bus. Honestly, I think he does the right thing in the film, and he ends up doing the good thing, and then it cuts to 15 years later the son of Ryan Gosling and the son of Avery Cross of Bradley Cooper's character meeting up with each other, and then Ryan Gossing's character or son figures out like the whole situation that happened and then goes after um him, and then it kind of leads to like the end of so it's an interesting film. I didn't really expect that when I first came in to follow three different characters, and I also like spoiler alert, spoiler alert before we reveal it, Ryan Gossing to die off like that. I was literally shocked. I was like, wait a second, did that just happen? I was like, he's on the cover. I I didn't think he was just gonna die like that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it definitely felt long because you're basically breaking up three acts into three short films that all connect together. Very interesting and very ballsy way to go about making a movie, but I think it was super well done, especially really connecting it all together at the end with their teenage sons. I thought it was uh really well done, and I think the acting really carried through a lot of this movie. I think everybody acted well except for the kids. Uh specifically Bradley Cooper's son is not a good actor, and I'm not surprised we haven't seen him in anything else ever.
SPEAKER_01No, no, Bradley Cooper's son is uh probably the weak point of the final act. I would say the final act, if it was better done, I think the movie would be a high lot higher rating for me. I think the final act itself, it's just not the best acted, and that's what really takes away from me personally. I think Ryan Gossing's son is pretty well acted. Um I just don't think he's working with a lot, especially when they're doing scenes with each other and the other guy's just giving him literally nothing. Yeah. But um, yeah. That actor Dane Dehan, he was also in Chronicle with Michael B. Jordan.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I really like Chronicle. I thought he was really good in that. But then he starts doing like the Spider-Man amazing Spider-Man movies. Green guy. Really bad at he Yeah, he's really bad in those. And then he does like the weird movie, Valyrian, and A City of a Thousand Planets, the one with uh, what's her name? Kara Delavine and one of the worst movies. And then I I haven't seen him since. Yeah. But yeah. Um yeah, the plot is very convoluted, I would say, where like you definitely get could get lost a little bit, uh, especially at the end, I think. I think I just don't get it. He never knew his dad, and I guess maybe he sees like all his hardships for the reason why he did die, and that's why he wants to get back to that family, but he doesn't really know all that happened. All he knows is like his dad died after stealing from a bank, and then he wants to like come get revenge for that. Where it's like, okay, like you you think that his mom would not raise him being like your dad was a really good guy. It's like yeah, your dad had like some problems, all right. Um, I don't know, but uh overall I gave the plot an eight out of ten just because I think it is a really hard story to adapt, and I really like the first two. The first the first part of the three, with just following behind Goss' character, I really liked. I think it carries the film, a really buys you into the film. His character is really intriguing as a person as well, because he's trying to do the right thing, which is saying a lot about a lot of his characters. He's trying to do the right thing, putting himself out on the line, again, good or evil, kind of in-between kind of thing. Um, becomes addicted to like the thrill of it all, but then also makes a really poor choice of like hitting the guy that's trying to house like his baby mama and his son. And then hits him with like a bit big wrench. But yeah.
SPEAKER_00No, and I think it was really impressive to even be able to pull this off because if that first act fails, the whole movie is nothing. Like, yeah. Thank God it was the third act because that was the the worst, I guess you would say. I don't even think it was bad, but I understand what you're saying. It's kind of a stretch, I guess, why would he even care about what was going on with his dad? But yeah, it was if that first act falls, the whole movie falls hard. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um getting into characters, I really enjoyed um Ryan Gosson's character, obviously, Luke, and then as well as Avery, played by Bradley Cooper. I really enjoyed both of them because it's quite interesting to see different types of dynamics of two different guys. One's like trying to earn for his family, and then they literally interact with each other for five seconds. And it's kind of like an instinct thing where like Avery doesn't do anything bad, he reports it badly right after. Like he should have told him what happened, where he shot first. But it's also like it's one of us, they just said he was new to the force. Why is he by himself in the first place? Why why would he be patrolling by himself? And there's no way in any world that I know I don't know much about the police, but when you're patrolling within the first couple months, I'm pretty sure you're not by yourself. You're with a partner. But anyways, he's doing that, and then like instinct is like, this guy has a gun pointed at me, I'm gonna shoot him. He shoots him and then he ends up killing him, having to lie, because if not, he like ruins his whole career based off of like an instinct thing. So we're like, yeah. And then seeing Avery like having to deal that with deal with that with the rest of his life, where even that he pays for him and like helps out that family and even has his back to not get him arrested when he should have. I don't think Avery's a bad character. Like, I don't think he's a bad person. I think put in really bad situations and like the police force was super corrupt.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, police force corrupt, but also I think the guilt was eating him alive too, you know? And that just caused him to make another bad decision after another bad decision, which led him down that road, but he eventually kind of cleaned himself up, but it still comes back to haunt him, you know?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah, the guilt of like again, uh it wasn't on purpose, it was like accidentally killing in person while while you're in the line of duty. So cinematography, I gave it eight out of ten. Again, the first act of the film, the film the cinematography is like top-notch. It's like really cool following him on those like bike chases, and then as well, like right at the beginning of the film when he like it shows his back tats as he's like walking up into it. I was like, oh, okay, I I'm sat for this kind of movie. And then the back half of the film, I'm like, they're kind of being lit not as intriguing with like the the way they're filming the movie, and that for me kind of took it away. Um it's like a more normal kind of movie toward the back half. Well, the first half that you could tell that you're on balls to the walls and like really going for it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I thought it was cool too, the the kind of mirroring shots between him and his son in the beginning of the movie, him doing it, and then obviously his son being of age and kind of doing some similar stuff with his life and kind of going down that path too. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um the dialogue I really enjoyed as well. Um, to where I don't think anything really stood out in a way where I was like, yeah, this is really good lines, but very believable lines.
SPEAKER_02Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_01Especially like the talking in between like him and his baby mom, girlfriend, whatever they were trying to get at at that point. Like they're trying, he's like, I want to be around the kid, but she's like, I don't know, like you don't seem like the most put-together guy, and I really need someone to be put together if I'm gonna raise a kid, but then he's like, I'm gonna I'm gonna show you, and but then like goes down a weird path. One of my favorite lines um is done by Robin, which is like Ben Mendelssohn, it's like the kind of weird guy who finds in the woods and then helps him out, or like not really helps him out, kind of leads him to his death. But um if you ride like lightning, you're gonna crash like thunder. And this is like right before he ends up doing the heist by himself, and that kind of ends up ruining him. That was one of my favorite lines just because it kind of foreshadowed what happened, but you don't really notice it because you're like, no way they're gonna kill off Ryan Gossing this early.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01He's he's the cover of the poster, and then he dies. And then But also like the first 30 minutes, I was like, where's Bradley Cooper? I was like, Bradley Cooper, this is a year after he gets nominated for an Oscar, and you tell me he's not in the movie. Like he's a side piece to the movie, and then they just interact for five minutes. What do you think about the dialogue? Anything, Natt?
SPEAKER_00No. Nah, I mean, I think the dialogue. Was good, like you said, believable. Nothing really stood out to me though as being like crazy. I think a lot of it again, it's kind of not left up for the viewer, but there's never really any lines from Bradley Cooper that make us feel the guilt, but you understand he's feeling guilty, right? Which I think a lot of this movie is that kind of the viewer having to understand what's going on around the person to feel what they're going through, which is cool.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. He doesn't say anything because he's holding it all with himself, which I think Cooper does a pretty good like face acting wise, to where you could tell that he's feeling guilt within his face without actually expressing himself at all. And ends up leading to like why he divorces uh his wife at that point. Um, because even though he tries to correct everything, he doesn't tell her anything about any of it. And like that pretty much breaks the trust in between them.
SPEAKER_00Exactly.
SPEAKER_01Acting, I gave it eight out of ten. Again, taking away from the bottom third of the film, or like the third part of the film, I think took away the acting for me. But when I saw Ryan Gosling and Bradley Cooper, I was really looking forward to like scenes with them two, like clashing back and forth. Yeah, there was none of that. And I was like, oh dang it. I was like one big clash. Yeah, one but one big clash, and then that was it. And I was like, man, they're not gonna be in the film with each other at all anymore. I was like, a little disappointing. But as well as Ava Mendez. So I've maybe you know this, but this is when they first met each other, and then Ryan Gossing is famous for saying, like, right after this film, he's like, I couldn't imagine having a child with anyone else, and then now they're married and they have children with each other. I was like, after seeing this film, I was like, this film is doesn't give off romantic vibes compared to like some other films that he's done. But I g I guess he just saw her with like the kid that looked kind of looks like his, and he's like, Yep, that's my woman. And then Ryan Gossling did Ryan Gosselin things and now he's married.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And I think it's interesting too. I mean, everybody talks about it a lot, but I guess she took a big step away from acting to kind of you know be a stay-at-home mom. Every speech Ryan Gosling wins something, he's thanking her unbelievably just because, you know, he couldn't do it without her really taking care of the family and letting him live his dream that way, which is kind of cool.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, for sure. Um, yeah, there's some other big actors in this. Like Marshall Ali is like a side character in this, but a two-time Oscar winner just as like the boy boyfriend, yeah, stepdad situation. Yeah. Ben Mendelson, he was in Rogue One. He's been in a couple other things as well. Rose Byrne as the wife of Bradley Cooper's character. I was like, I didn't expect her to see see her in this as well. Yeah. We're after a big year. But yeah. Sound effects, I gave a nine out of ten. Um, I think both films did really well at using like the sound effects in a pod like a positive way to add to like the themes of the film without taking away from it as well, but adding it rather.
SPEAKER_00What did you think? No, I agree. I mean, I think everything was really cool. There's one specific scene where um I forgot what Ryan Gaussing was doing, but it transitioned into him robbing a bank and the music just like cut really fast. I thought it was really cool.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. There's just a lot of like cool, unique things. Whenever he does like some chase sequences throughout his different types of films where that happens, it seems like he's got either he finds people that are really good at it or he has like some touch to it because they're all just really well done with like cutting music into like what's actually going on within the story itself. Like I could just think of Blade Runner as well, of having a scene very similar to like that, and then even small things in Project Helmary as well, even a spaceship. A set design, I thought it was nothing special, so I gave it a seven out of ten. It was just I mean, I forget actually where this film is technically placed. And Sketney, where is that Pennsylvania somewhere? New York. Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, this is like backwards, New York. Um you don't really get to see much of it other other than it does feel like a small town of north to east, like the United States, and that's why uh Avery or Bradley Coops are character jumped 15 years later and he's like running for a big office pointed position.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Um, but yeah. Yeah, I think the set design looked fine. Nothing, like you said, really stood out. I thought the the bike scenes were always cool with him, you know, kind of zooming through the town, kind of uh maneuvering his way around to kind of trick the police and coming after him. I thought that looked really cool.
SPEAKER_01Mm-hmm. I thought directing, I gave it eight out of ten just because it is a very ambitious kind of story to go after three different storylines of three different really focuses of people on him. So I gave it a little bit up for that. I think the back half or the last third of the film was a little not done as well as the first two, but still really well done.
SPEAKER_00I agree. I think, like we talked about, it's really ambitious if that first act doesn't hit the movie falls down really fast. And I think it was it was generally pretty well done.
SPEAKER_01So he directed Blue Valentine before this, also with Ryan Gosling, The Light Between Oceans. Um, and then you'll enjoy this. He wrote Sound of Metal, he co-wrote it. Nice. Yeah, I I feel a very similar vibe to that movie.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And then he um directed and write it, wrote uh Roofman, which came out this past year with Channing Tatum. Other than that, he like takes a couple of years, like he's not one of those directors comes out of the film like every other year. He kind of waits a little bit, you know, um, let's whatever comes to him kind of develop. Editing, I gave it eight out of ten, very similar things to where when we talked about sound effects of cutting back and forth. Um, but even like within the scenes of the characters themselves cutting across, especially like when they're they're conversating and it's cutting. This may get into cinematography, but I think it's also part of editing and when they're conversating with each other, but then it like kind of pans around and then cuts to each other's faces as it's talking. Yeah. Lastly, the theme. I gave it a little higher rating than drive because I think these were more like family generational like grief, but then also generational like um things that hold up with you. Like this affected two generations of their lives based off of a five-second interaction and how grief and not getting over something that really wasn't his fault. It was just his first instinct, can really lead you down to like a certain path. And also, like again, themes of like good versus evil and what exactly do they suppose look like.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I mean, I took away basically just thinking like, you know, generations might be able to seek to outrun their past, but they're often kind of bound to the inherited guilt and social classes that predetermined their path long ago, which is pretty interesting, and it's interesting to see two sides of that coin told and how they connect to each other.
SPEAKER_01Awesome. So overall, I gave it a 7.9 out of 10 or 79 out of 100. I enjoy both movies, and I could see myself coming back to both, slightly like Drive a little bit better than Place Beyond the Pines. Um, just because I think honestly, I think Ryan Gossing's like the standout of the film for this movie again. Obviously, the other one he's like the star, but this one he's like kind of co-starring it with Bradley Cooper. But I think the first third is my favorite part of the film. I rewatched if I were to rewatch anything the most, it'd probably be the first third of the film.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I agree. I I like the first part the best too, and we're pretty dialed. I I give it an 8.0 out of 10, uh 80. I enjoyed this movie too. I think it would be a little bit harder to come back to just as it felt really long. It felt like three separate movies, which was interesting. But yeah, I overall I enjoyed it.
SPEAKER_01Awesome. So yeah, that concludes like the movies that we watched this week, specifically pertaining to the actor Ryan Gosling. Again, one of the bigger uh actors out there right now, uh, just came out with Project Halmira, you should probably go check that out. But now we're gonna do the exercise of raking his top ten films for us of all time, at least that we've seen. I think there's gonna be some exclusions of stuff that we haven't seen that we may get hated on for not putting in there. But so we're gonna rank top ten. It's gonna be two teams, so like that we have to spin the wheel to see what we get. Well, team A is gonna get picks one, three, five, seven, nine, and ten, and then B gets two, four, six, and eight, and then we'll spin the wheel, and then A gets one veto while B gets two vetoes. Click it to see who gets to choose which team they want to be on. Let's go. Okay. I got the first one, or I won the wheel, so I'll go with team I think I'm gonna go with team A. Okay, okay. Because they get picks nine, ten, seven, five, three, and one, but one's kind of already selected for you. Unless you just decide to do something crazy. It's like, uh never mind. Fall Guy, number one. Okay, cool. So I'll start off. So uh Justin, you have two vetoes, I only have one. Yep. Starting off with number ten. So I've seen I think we've all seen the same movies other than Half Nelson. I saw this morning, and you haven't seen that one. And I don't think you've seen the notebook.
SPEAKER_02I have.
SPEAKER_01You have?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Alright, before we start, what movies have you seen by him? Let's let's start with that. Before it is Charlie.
SPEAKER_00I've seen, I mean, all the big ones. I think you know all the movies I've seen.
SPEAKER_01I'll list off ones I've seen Project Hill Mary, Drive, Nice Guys, Blade Runner, Half Nelson, Lala Land, Place Beyond the Pines, Barbie, Big Short, Crazy Stupid Love, Notebook, Remember the Titans, and Fall Guy.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I've seen all of those except Half Nelson. Okay.
SPEAKER_01Cool. Um, number 10. I personally like this character a little bit more than his other rom-com character, so I'm gonna go with Crazy Stupid Love at number 10. That's a good pick there. That's a good pick there. Good movie. Um, I think it's a better rom-com or a better romantic movie, because I don't think notebook there's really a rom-com. I don't think there's many funny parts to that movie.
SPEAKER_02Really sad, actually.
SPEAKER_01I think it's a better romance movie than the notebook. I have some problems, not necessarily with Ryan Gossley's character, but with Allie in the notebook that I still really like. Um but yeah, Crazy Stupid Love. We talked about it on the Ron-Con movie, not like in depth, but we both really brought it up because we really enjoyed like the cutting of different relationships and what that means. This is like the cornerstone of Emma Stone and his connection. Yeah, I agree. Cool. Alrighty. Where am I gonna go next? So with your two vetoes, I feel like you can kind of dominate this the way that you want it to go. I'm gonna go. I know where I want to go, but I have a feeling you you have something ranked a lot higher than I do. But sorry, I'll wait to get to get that out of the way. I'm gonna go with the big short here. I'm gonna go with the big short here. Yeah, yeah. I think very similar character as in Crazy Stupid Love, very similar acting styles and for both kind of this cocky guy that knows it all, uh kind of just talking out of his out of his ass out of both movies. That's why I think they they're good to go back to back with each other, because I think they're just both so similar. I just like Big Short better than Crazy Stupid Love.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I mean, but the Big Short too, he's not like the main character, he's just kind of a pivotal part in the story. Yeah, I mean, I get putting it here. It's a good movie, it's just not involving him a hundred percent either.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00All right. I'm gonna I don't know where you're going with this. So I'm gonna go ahead and take I'm gonna take the notebook at number eight. Well, you're you're not including half Nelson, so like that's the only thing. Yeah. Um, I just don't see a way we can leave this off the list. Kind of really kicked off his mainstream acting career and such a big movie. I mean, it's still people talk about it all the time today.
SPEAKER_01So we're not so we're ranking Brian Gosson's top ten performances, not his top ten movies. I know. I'm gonna do it already then. I'm veto vetoing this.
SPEAKER_02Dang, okay. I don't want this on the list. Got rid of that one fast. I'd like I think he was really good in this movie. I just think there's like the other eight movies are just he's just that much better. Alright, I'll take a place beyond the pines.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I don't mind that being here. He's so much better in this tonight. All right, man. If we get hate, it's gonna be from women that love the notebook, and I'm like, good for you, but like it's a flawed romance. I think I see what you have way higher than me now. Well, way higher. I also have this next one way lower, which I already know you're gonna veto, but I have next Lala Land. Yeah, get that shit out of here.
SPEAKER_02What the hell? Is this a joke? Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I mean, I already knew you were gonna veto it, but cool. So next up for me, um I guess I'll just do it here. Number seven, I'm gonna go with Barbie. Yeah, that's what I thought you had way higher than me. Yeah. It was fine to me. I think he's really good in Barbie. I think playing a really good, interesting character again, where like quite of a choice for his career where he's kind of just playing like the punching bag. I mean, I guess he kind of does play the punching bag in a lot of his movies, low-key, but he's kind of known for that for some of his bigger roles. I mean, he he won an Oscar for best uh original song for it, so yeah, that's true. All right. All right.
SPEAKER_00Number six, I'm gonna take Drive.
SPEAKER_01So we talked about it a lot. I think for me these like top six are all very interchangeable to where it's just up to like what you think.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, because I think I think his character was really good in Drive. Um, obviously the lack of dialogue, but that makes his care is what makes his character so interesting. I actually had drive at five on my personal list, so or close enough.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I I personally had it at number two, but I can't use a veto anymore. Because I really didn't want that other movie on the list. The notebook. Alright, number five, can I take another veto here already? Iron, no, but um yeah, lock. Yeah, that's see ya. Um okay, so now we're both done with vetoes. So number five for me um is gonna be half Nelson. Okay. So this is after the notebook, but this is like his first film, in my opinion, where people actually take him super serious as an actor and they're like, oh wow. Not just do you have this like charisma, but you can show like this range. He plays like a drug addict in the film, but he's also a school teacher. The parts where he can still bring Ryan Gosling like charisma, he does as like a teacher. And he has like this relationship with one of the one of the kids as she has a really bad family situation at home, not many people, and then like trying to bring her into the drug life of selling, but he's also reeling, or like not really reeling, just like battling through addiction because it is a disease. Quite an interesting film, not a rewatchable film, but really good.
SPEAKER_00I have to check it out for sure. I was gonna try and watch it last night, just ran out of time. Um maybe I'll do that after the show today. Number four, I'm gonna take the nice guys. Um, very Ryan Gosling style of character here. You know, good dad, but not necessarily the smartest or brightest in his decision making, which is makes it so funny. Um, I really do love this movie. I think this is probably one of his most rewatchable movies ever. Um I can just turn this on and watch it anytime.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I think I think when it comes down to nice guys and probably Project Hail Mary in like a year or two is gonna be his most rewatchable films out of the vote. Any of them. The nice guys, I didn't get to re-watch it this week. I may watch it later today just because I love the nice guys, and he's playing a comedy role, which is really hard for dramatic actors to be able to pull off being like actually as funny as he is in that film. And he's like, Yeah, the clash between him and Russell Crowe are so good. And the daughter, dude. The daughter's so funny. All right, take it off the board. Yep. Even though it's La La Lan. Um I mean, I really like this performance from him in this film. I just think Emma Stone is like just so much. I'm not gonna say better. It's just like she is like the film for me compared to him.
SPEAKER_00I think you need to re-watch it, man. I take it the uh 100% the other way around. Really? Yes.
SPEAKER_01I think the Academy uh sees it the other way. But but nah, so like Lala Lan. Uh we talked about it on the podcast a while back. Um again, really interesting performance from him because he's changing up from like doing drive kind of role, um, and then he does Blade Runner after this, but then he does like where he's actually a pretty talented singer. He was like an artist for a little bit. Him and his buddy came out with like an album and they like did a couple um tours, but yeah.
SPEAKER_00All right. Number two, I'm taking Project Hail Mary. Yeah. Um, I think this is gonna be looked at as one of his best roles ever. Obviously, it just came out, but I needed a little more time to sit with it. I definitely need to re-watch it too. And I think Lala Land and number one are just better, in my opinion.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I mean, I really like Project Hail Mary. The difference between this and Lala Land and Nice Guys is he is the film. Like they cut to him and Sam like Sandra Houler, kind of, but the whole film he's talking to a puppet, and it's like super charismatic the entire film, and then as well as like he brings emotion into Rocky itself and super just a really impressive role because like based off the reading the book, it's incredibly hard to like adapt it acting that wise, because it starts off with him not knowing what he's doing there. Yeah, very impressive role. This was my personal number one.
SPEAKER_00Interesting.
SPEAKER_01Already? Yeah, I I just really like his performance in it. I like a lot of his face acting that I just I see too many similarities after seeing Drive, Drive and Blade Runner, which is Blade Runner's gonna be number one. Actually, let's do five fall guy at number one, actually.
SPEAKER_02Alright, alright, keep it up, pal.
SPEAKER_01I just see really similarities between Blade Runner and Drive, and that's why I had them like right next to each other, to where like there are there is facial emotions with like really good at staring out. But I think he does this in good Hail Mary with like showing a little bit more emotions, if that makes sense. That I think he doesn't show in a lot of other films.
SPEAKER_00I think the beauty of Blade Runner 2049 is that the emotion is supposed to be kind of held in, right? Because he feels like he's a robot and he's not supposed to be humanity, he's not supposed to symbolize humanity until he realizes that he can. And then that's when we see the the real emotion coming out to him, you know, laying on those steps, bleeding out. Um I think that's the beauty in his acting in that one, the range it shows, right? Awesome.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So uh his top ten that we ranked was number 10, Crazy Stupid Love, 9, the Big Short, 8, The Plays Beyond the Pines, number 7, Barbie, number six, Drive, 5, Half Nelson, 4, Nice Guys, 3, Lala Land, 2, Project Hill Mary, and 1 Blade Runner 2049. I think this was a good list in the way where we where we both didn't get exactly what we wanted, but it ended up coming together, if that makes sense.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it was probably I mean, it was a really good mix of what it sounds like our list were separated.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, because I think it sounds like our lists were like kind of all over the place when it came to the top six. Yeah. But I like it.
SPEAKER_00I like our top six.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Two big exclusions of his work are Blue Valentine. We both haven't seen it yet. I heard it's really good. Lars and the real girl, I haven't seen it, but it's the one where he's like dating our like a doll. Quite an interesting film, I heard. It's still a liability, a corner. Yes. Remember The Titans wasn't brought up. Um, and then obviously the notebook, which I had a big say of that not being on there because it's right at 11 for me, but uh yeah, I have a problem with that film.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I was hoping his role in the uh 69 cent Taco Bell quesarito would get brought up, but uh Yeah, sadly the Fall Guy wasn't brought up.
SPEAKER_01We'll see if we'll see if the new Star Wars film he's in at all. Like if that how good that is. I it has really good potential with how he's been in Hail Mary, Blade Runner. Um yeah.
SPEAKER_02High expectations with let me see. I'll add it in. You can't see it.
SPEAKER_01I'll add it in in post. Shout out to that role. And then um Yeah, he's also doing a new movie, Love of Your Life. It's a romantic drama film. It stars, yeah, you're definitely gonna see this. Oh no, he's just a producer. But still, you'll probably see this. Because it stars Margaret Qually and then uh Patrick Swarzenegger, Arnold's son, and then also has Arian Pierre, Gabriel Brasso, but Ryan Gosling is uh producing the film. I thought he started it. And I was like, oh dude, Ryan Gosling and Margaret Quali, that's right up uh Justin's Avenue right there.
SPEAKER_02Bang.
SPEAKER_01I'll be barking two times. Awesome. Well, thanks for listening this week. Um hopefully you learned a little bit about Ryan Gosling and some of his uh earlier films. See you all next week.
SPEAKER_00See ya.