27. A 10-Year-Old Explains Why Homeschool Works (After 4 Years in Public School)

We ask Saylor—the spark behind our homeschool switch—to answer your questions about slow mornings, ADHD-friendly learning, real social time, sports, screens, chores, and why she never wants to go back to public school. Two focused hours, long outdoor play, and a simple structure turned our evenings from chaos to calm.

• why we chose two-hour school blocks and more outside time
• why homeschool supports ADHD
• the case against taking away recess
• sports that feel fun when you’re not already drained
• limited screens after chores with sleep as the priority
• chores, laundry, and building life skills
• kindergarten as a positive start before homeschooling

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Meet Sailor, Our Homeschool Catalyst

SPEAKER_03 0:00

Yeah, that's a bad punishment. It's even worse for yourself too. Because when you take the recess away, they'll just be like worse. One kid in my class, he got recess taken away, and then and then he got in trouble so much.

SPEAKER_00 0:16

We're two full-time working parents who just made a crazy decision.

SPEAKER_01 0:21

After four years in public school, we're homeschooling our three kids and documenting the whole thing.

SPEAKER_00 0:27

Never in a million years did I think we would be homeschool people.

SPEAKER_01 0:30

Welcome to, well, this wasn't the plan podcast.

SPEAKER_02 0:34

I'm Slate, and school's in the kitchen now. I'm Scotty. Lisa Scott when I say so.

SPEAKER_03 0:44

I'm Sailor, and this whole podcast was my idea.

SPEAKER_01 0:49

This podcast is our real-time journey, unexpectedly juggling homeschool, jobs, parenting, and everything in between.

SPEAKER_00 0:57

Follow along each week as we document how it's going and share the good, the bad, and the ugly. Because we know some days are going to be ugly, and we're not holding back.

SPEAKER_01 1:08

We're learning to expect the unexpected. So let's get into it.

SPEAKER_00 1:12

Let's go. Okay, today we have the person that started this whole podcast, the person that is the whole reason that we're homeschooling, and that's Sailor. Sailor is on the podcast with us today. She has been asking and asking to be back on the podcast again. So today she's gonna answer all of your questions. So welcome, Sailor.

SPEAKER_03 1:37

Hi.

SPEAKER_00 1:38

Are you excited to be on the podcast again?

SPEAKER_03 1:41

Yes, I'm so excited.

Mornings, Alarms, And Slow Starts

SPEAKER_00 1:42

She's very excited, and I pulled everybody on Instagram to see what you guys want to hear from Sailor, and we have a list of questions she's gonna answer for us today. So the first question is do you always sleep till 9 a.m.?

SPEAKER_03 2:00

No, and when I do sleep to 9 a.m. then I just get up and eat breakfast like normal. But when I don't, I usually start my school or listen to my audiobook or read.

SPEAKER_00 2:11

So a lot of people wanting to know how we force the kids to sleep until 9. And the answer is we can't force them to sleep. If we could, I feel like we would be very rich. We could tell everybody how to force their kids to sleep, but we can't. Sailor is our early waker. I feel like the girls you typically wake before nine, and then they just know that they have some time to kill before they eat breakfast if they want to. So, like she said, you like to listen to your audiobook a little bit, just wake up slowly, and sometimes she does sleep till nine, but I would say usually you're up by like eight at least.

SPEAKER_03 2:49

Yeah, sometimes I wake up at 7:30.

SPEAKER_00 2:52

So, yeah, sometimes she has a lot of time in the mornings, and sometimes she uses that time to do her schoolwork because she wants to get ahead and be done really quick that day. And sometimes she works on Legos or reads or does whatever before having breakfast. She doesn't sleep until 9 every day, and they do have an alarm just in case for some reason you overslept, right?

SPEAKER_03 3:16

Yeah, but I never oversleep.

SPEAKER_00 3:18

No, that would be slight. He does like to sleep, and he sleeps a long time, and he's usually the one that is not ready to homeschool by 10 because he slept in and then he had a leisurely breakfast. So basically, they just know that no matter what time they wake up, that they can't come into our office because we're working, so they just have slow mornings. And I think because they all for years are like drug out of their beds and went to school, like you enjoy slow mornings, right?

SPEAKER_03 3:44

Yeah, I do like enjoying slow mo mornings, but I also do like having something every morning. So it's kind of a mix because we still have alarms and then we also get to sleep in.

SPEAKER_00 3:55

Right. And we do have to have a structure, like we can't just say, oh, we'll just homeschool whenever. Like we have to know when we're gonna do it so that we can work in homeschool too, which you did know that was the plan when we got into it, right? That we would have to work.

SPEAKER_03 4:10

Yeah, I definitely knew that because when we're at school, you can work every day, but when we're homeschooling, you still have to help us. But when you wake up early, you can still do your work and we can sleep in or do our schoolwork, and sometimes we just get up and eat breakfast right when we get up.

SPEAKER_00 4:27

Right. So they're trained very well, and they knew going into it, this was our plan. So the next question here is what do you love about homeschooling?

SPEAKER_03 4:37

Well, I do like sleeping in, but I know I say that a lot. I also like we only have two hours a day of schooling, and we get to go outside for so long, pretty much as long as we want.

SPEAKER_00 4:49

Right. We don't tell you, oh, you've you've met your 30 minutes, time to come back in, do we?

SPEAKER_03 4:54

No, you usually are the one who's like, okay, time to go outside, and then we're like, okay, we play outside for like hours.

SPEAKER_00 5:02

Yeah, hours a day. Which does that make you feel better? Do you feel better getting outside every single day?

SPEAKER_03 5:09

Yes, I think that we were a little bit crazier when we got back from school because like we wanted to be good in school and not get in trouble, so so we were just holding in all the craziness, and then when we got home, we were so crazy and wanting to get outside, but then we would have to go to sports and do a lot of stuff.

SPEAKER_00 5:29

Yeah, they definitely she's talking about when I would pick them up from school, they would be out of control, crazy. And we think now, because we don't have that craziness, that it just was like too much pent-up energy, they didn't get enough outside time, they were listening to directions all day, and by the time I picked them up, they were just on a whole nother level. So we don't have that anymore.

SPEAKER_03 5:55

Yeah, not anymore, because we get to put all of our c craziness outside and we get to play all day. It's so much fun, and we can do so much sports and still get enough time to be home with our family.

Sports Without The After-School Chaos

SPEAKER_00 6:09

Yes, that is one thing that we're loving, is that I was really hating taking all the sports all the time because it's like you just got home and then I have to take you to sports.

SPEAKER_03 6:19

Yeah, you would take us to school, go home, do all your work, be so tired, then pick us up right after we're done, and then you would have to go home, get us ready for sports, and then take us to sports, then take us back home, and then by the time we get home, it's time for to bed.

SPEAKER_00 6:34

Yeah, exactly. And so it wasn't fun. It was like it was sports is supposed to be fun, right? And it wasn't.

SPEAKER_03 6:41

And now it's so much fun. Like, I love my sports so much. I love going there pretty much every day until like I just stopped volleyball and then start basketball. And I don't really have overlapping, but I do my favorite's definitely tumbling.

SPEAKER_00 6:58

Yes, Sailor is currently doing tumbling two days a week, which she's always wanted to do, but we couldn't because we were in school. But now there is a class that's super early, she goes at 4 30, she goes two days a week, and that's still not enough for her. She still wants to use her own money to be able to buy more lessons.

SPEAKER_03 7:17

So for my birthday, I want to have a private lesson.

SPEAKER_00 7:20

That's what she wants for her birthday, is a private lesson. So I love that you're loving it so much, and she's so excited to go. But I also love that no matter what they're doing, it feels like you know, we've been at home together, we've spent time together, the kids are ready to get out of the house. So by the time that activities come around, I think we're all ready to get out of the house and go do them. And as opposed to going to school all day, then having to do them. Okay, so you love lots of things about homeschooling, but is there anything that you don't like about homeschooling?

SPEAKER_03 7:51

I just think that it's actually hard to think, but I can't.

SPEAKER_00 7:57

You can't think of anything you don't like?

SPEAKER_02 7:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:00

No?

SPEAKER_02 8:01

Nope.

SPEAKER_00 8:02

Alright, well, somebody asked specifically, do you miss your friends and sitting next to them like in a classroom setting every day?

SPEAKER_03 8:11

Well, when we were at school, we never got to talk. Like it was like, you don't have enough time at lunch, no talking, no time in class, because they were explaining instructions, and then we usually just had time at recess, but then that was only like 15 to 30 minutes. So then when we got home, we're like so crazy, like I said earlier. But now we can just talk all day, except for when we're doing school, we're all focused, but still.

SPEAKER_00 8:40

Yeah, focus for the main part. So mainly there wasn't a lot of time that you get to be with your friends at school anyway, right?

SPEAKER_03 8:47

Yes. I do miss my friends, but I can still see them all the time when they're down to school. And I still have other friends that I made. Some are homeschooled, some are not.

Friends, Social Time, And School Limits

SPEAKER_00 8:57

Yeah, you have a lot of friends. We actually had a teacher on the podcast, and she said the exact same thing that you just said, which was there's not a lot of socializing time at school. So every every time they're saying be quiet, be quiet, at lunch, they're saying, Hurry, hurry, or you have a silent lunch or whatever because kids are being crazy. And then sometimes you actually got your recess taken away, which how do you feel about that?

SPEAKER_03 9:23

I think they should just make people run instead because then it's hard for the teachers and hard for the parents because all the kids will be so crazy if they don't play outside, and then they're like, okay, you have to sit on the wall, it's time, and then finally you get recess the next day, but then they take it away again. I just think that playing outside every day is the best.

SPEAKER_00 9:46

Right, and if you don't get to play outside, then the kids are actually crazier. So if they take recess away, they're not gonna be better. Their behavior is probably gonna be worse.

SPEAKER_03 9:56

Yeah, that's a bad punishment. It's even worse for yourself too, because when you take the recess away, they'll just be like worse. One kid in my class, he got recess taken away, and then and then he got in trouble so much after.

SPEAKER_00 10:10

Well, because he didn't get to go outside and play and burn the energy. So I personally think it should be illegal for them to take recess away. I think they, yeah, make them run, make them do jumping jacks, do whatever, something to burn energy. But that is a time of unstructured time that kids deserve. I also think they didn't go outside a lot because of the weather. And in Texas, we have a lot of really good weather, but it just seemed like they would be like, oh, today it was too wet outside, or it was too windy, or too muddy. Too muddy, too cold, too hot. Like there's always some reason they weren't going outside. And I do think that has a lot to do with kids maybe not being dressed appropriately for the weather, but I mean, here, if it's cold, like some jacket on and go outside.

SPEAKER_03 10:55

If they don't bring their jackets, then the whole class can't go outside.

Recess Punishments And Why They Fail

SPEAKER_00 10:59

Being outside should be a priority. So, like, here in the summer, we went outside first thing. Because if we didn't, it was gonna be a hundred degrees, so we made sure to get outside. I think that schools should also be doing that. So the next question is what's your favorite subject?

SPEAKER_03 11:17

My favorite subject is probably reading.

SPEAKER_00 11:21

You love to read, right? What's your favorite book series?

SPEAKER_03 11:24

Harry Potter.

SPEAKER_00 11:25

Yeah, I knew that one. She's a little obsessed with Harry Potter.

SPEAKER_03 11:29

I read all the books five times, each one. Five times.

SPEAKER_00 11:33

Yeah. We're trying to find her some different books, but she loves Harry Potter. And do you know what you want to be when you grow up?

SPEAKER_03 11:40

I actually don't know that question. I know when in like a few years, about three or four years, I'm gonna get a coffee cart business, though.

SPEAKER_00 11:48

I don't think you need to know what you need you want to do with the rest of your life just yet. You're just ten. But we do have the kids, kids have to start a business before they graduate. It's like a project. Doesn't have to be anything crazy. It can be babysitting, mowing lawns, all that. Well, Sailor wants to start a coffee cart, which I think is a really good idea. And the coffee cart will go to events like weddings or baby showers or schools, and she will serve coffee at those events. We actually have multiple clients doing it, and they make r really good money doing it. So I think that it would be really cool for you to try that.

SPEAKER_03 12:28

I don't really like coffee that much, but I also make desserts and stuff. I know grown-ups like coffee, so I will still do coffee, but I'm gonna make like rice crispy treats and maybe brownies.

SPEAKER_00 12:39

Yeah, I think it's a good idea to have a snack for one with your coffee, but you gotta go where the money is, right? Yeah. That's that's where the money's the people are gonna pay for coffee, so I think it's a really good idea, and we will definitely help them with that. The goal there is just to make sure you know how to do a budget and you can save for your car, and all of these good lessons will come from you starting a business, even if it's not something you do forever. So you have ADHD. We know this, we've known this for a long time. How do you think that homeschool helps with your ADHD?

Reading Love And Fresh Curriculum

SPEAKER_03 13:14

Well, it's a it's like a lot what I just said. Going outside helps and not being crammed in a small room all day. I'm sitting down for two hours, but that's not a lot, and I love doing my schoolwork too. Sometimes I just feel like, okay, am I almost done?

SPEAKER_00 13:32

So I think coming from a parent's perspective, she has less work to do. So that helps because she can do a little math, you know, but she can't sit there and do 10 worksheets of math. And that's what she was complaining about first, was that they just had to keep doing the same stuff over and over and over again. So when she gets something, I just say, like, let's move on. There's no reason for you to do that many problems. So we reduce her workload.

SPEAKER_03 14:01

I think I started wanting to stop school when I was in second to third grade because that's when they started giving us like 10 worksheets a subject or something a day. And we would work on the same thing for a whole week. I just think you don't want to learn the same thing every day. In my math workbook, I learn a different thing every day. I still have reviews so I can practice what I was learning, but I like learning something new every day.

SPEAKER_00 14:30

Yeah, there is a new topic every day, but you also have a mini review at the end of it so that you still practice the little things. But it might be that you practice it by doing two problems, which is fine. You just don't want to do a worksheet every single day, multiple, over the same thing.

Kid Entrepreneurship: The Coffee Cart Plan

SPEAKER_03 14:50

Yeah, and then we would go to different classes and it would be the same thing. And most of the worksheets were so boring, like they'll just they'll just have the same problems down, down, down, and then they'll have different columns down, down, down. We had to figure out different ways to work it out. I didn't like that. I liked working on the one that I liked best. I didn't like working on the other ways you could do it.

SPEAKER_00 15:14

Well, and that's the thing about school is that they have to teach it a lot of ways because some people like to do it this way. Some people only understand it one way, and so they teach it to you ten ways, right? And then you have to do it ten ways. Well, this way in homeschooling, we just do the way that works best for you. If you get the answer and you understand it, we move on. So I think that absolutely helps with ADHD. You get to do less work and you get to do it the way you want to do it, and we teach to you, not to the class. And then you get outside more, and then a lot less time sitting. So more time of your day now is spent playing and playing outside, which I think is exactly what you need when you have ADHD. Let's go to the next question. Somebody said, You're so beautiful. What makeup do you use when you put on makeup?

SPEAKER_03 16:06

Well, that was very nice, and I use clinique makeup, just like the simple products like mascara, lip gloss, lipstick, and blush and eyeshadow, those things.

SPEAKER_00 16:19

So we have a rule in our house about like chemicals, like I just, you know, any unnecessary chemicals we just try not to do. So makeup's a big one for me.

Homeschooling With ADHD In Mind

SPEAKER_03 16:28

Yeah, I use I only use makeup on special occasions. Like I don't just put it on when I'm gonna stay home all day. Don't put it on for sports or anything like that. I'll just put it on if we're gonna go to like a really nice dinner and we meet up with our whole family.

SPEAKER_00 16:45

Yeah, and you like to put on makeup. It's just you're 10, you don't need makeup every day. But I do want you to start learning. So it was kind of fun. We went to Clinique and we picked out a few things, like you said, just the simple stuff, and they told her, you know, how to apply it and how to put it on. I think you do a really good job putting makeup on, and you're only 10. So I think it's you know, skills for life, it's fun. Even though I have this rule about I don't want you putting all these products on your face like your friends at school were doing, I s you still love makeup, obviously.

SPEAKER_03 17:19

Yeah, and I do not use skincare. Because my skin because if you use skincare, when you're older, your skin will be worse than what it was. But if you don't use skincare, then your skin will just stay beautiful like when you were a kid. Yes, you have beautiful skin. You don't need to change your skin. When you're a kid, your skin's very pretty.

SPEAKER_00 17:39

She's had a few friends put some things on their face and they have broken out, they've got some chemical burns, so this is where all this is coming from. We're just teaching her that, you know, she has like a simple face wash that she uses when she goes to sports and she's getting sweaty now, and she tries she uses it whenever she like does put makeup on, and then she has a moisturizer for if her face gets dry, which neither of those you use as much as you probably should, but right now you have perfect skin, so it doesn't really matter. Alright, the next question is she said, should she let her two-year-old go to kindergarten and homeschool later on, or should she homeschool from the beginning?

SPEAKER_03 18:21

I think that kindergarten is a very good experience for socialization and just to learn your basic things, because it'll be way easier to teach your your kids if they've already gone to kindergarten, because they'll teach them their letters and their numbers, and then you can just be like, okay, this is what we're starting, and then they'll already know the basics.

Simple Makeup Rules And Skincare Talk

SPEAKER_00 18:45

Yeah, I always tell people don't be scared of kindergarten because three out of three of my kids had a really good experience. Kindergarten was fun, they got to be with their friends, it was a lot more play, they had a lot more recess time, they did learn things like the basics, their colors or letters, their sounds and days of the week, all of that good stuff. And even first grade was really good for Sailor. So I just feel like I would never tell someone like, no, don't put them in kindergarten. I think that that's great and it gives you a little more time to figure some things out and it lets them be just a little bit older before you start trying to tackle homeschooling. I think all of the issues that we talk about with school really for us, we didn't experience them in kindergarten. We had such a good year. So send them to kindergarten. Absolutely. Let somebody else start teaching them all of those basics, and then you can pick up later from that, and it's just so much easier. I think that's what I told you. I was like, I am not homeschooling Scotty until she can read. I do not want to teach her to read. Now, the next question: how much screen time do you get per day?

SPEAKER_03 20:00

About an hour.

SPEAKER_00 20:02

Tell us more about it. Is it a limit? Like, is it on an iPad? Is it on a television?

SPEAKER_03 20:08

It's on a television, and we only sometimes we'll get like uh an hour and like 15 minutes. That's only because if we get all of our chores done, we eat dinner, take a shower, brush our teeth, all clean our rooms, and then we get to watch television until it's time. We usually watch until 8 or 8. And then we just go to bed, usually read, and then listen to audiobooks.

SPEAKER_00 20:41

That's your bedtime routine. Which it's been that way for a while. Someone wanted to know if your bedtime routine had changed a lot from before you're homeschooled. And I would just say that now you go to bed later.

SPEAKER_03 20:55

So I do go to bed later because I don't have to wake up earlier.

Kindergarten First Or Start At Home

SPEAKER_00 21:01

Basically, we don't have a set amount of screen time, but you don't do iPad time during the day, and TV time comes at the end of the day, whenever all the other important things have been done. And then what happens if you have a late volleyball practice and you get home and it's like already past bedtime, do you still get to watch, or what happens?

SPEAKER_03 21:22

We don't get to watch.

SPEAKER_00 21:24

Basically, bedtime is more important to us than you watching a show. And so if we're like, nope, guys, it's too late, it's already eight o'clock, like you guys just need to go read and go to sleep. That's just we how we've always done it. So you're not typically watching every single night because you've got sports. So I would say you spend maybe five hours a week watching a show of your choice before bed. But did you know on average, kids your age spend about six hours a day on screens?

SPEAKER_03 21:59

That's always I don't think I could sit still for that long.

SPEAKER_00 22:03

Yeah, probably not. But that's crazy. That is in one day they're watching or looking at a device longer than you do all week long. In the entire week.

SPEAKER_03 22:15

I'm just gonna point out people your age probably spend on a phone that long, so absolutely they do, for sure.

SPEAKER_00 22:23

I think that the longer you have a phone and things like that, the more you're gonna look at it, right?

SPEAKER_03 22:28

Yeah. I also wanted to point out we do have an iPad, just if you're wondering, but we only use it if it's like if it's longer than an hour drive or plane ride.

SPEAKER_00 22:40

Two hours longer than two hours.

SPEAKER_03 22:42

Longer than two hours or drive or plane ride.

Screen Time Boundaries And Bedtime Rhythm

SPEAKER_00 22:46

Yes, and we do some learning apps on the iPad at home. So like you do Spanish on it, and which takes uh ten minutes, and then Gotti has her reading lesson and Slate does his piano. So everybody is spending a small amount of time for learning on the iPads every day. So that would give you a tiny bit of screen time, but it's very minimal. So you do not spend very much time looking at a screen. What do you enjoy? Most almost 11-year-olds, you know, do a lot of iPad time. What do you enjoy that's not on a screen? Maybe some people need ideas.

SPEAKER_03 23:26

Well, I do like reading and listening to an audiobook, which I already pointed out, but I do Legos and I play outside and I do crafts, I draw. Sometimes I make a little comic book Slater Scotty. Sometimes I help my sister play like a game or something.

SPEAKER_00 23:46

We love board games. You do all kinds of things outside. We have bicycles.

SPEAKER_03 23:51

We have bikes, scooters, skateboards, jump ropes, and uh we also have this ninja playset, and it has monkey bars, has two swings, has a climbing thing, and then we also we also like to like play tag and not use our thing sometimes. And then sometimes my brother's friends come over and we would have like a giant nerf war in our street.

SPEAKER_00 24:18

Yeah, that's been the thing lately. I even had to order clear glasses so that people didn't get hit in the eye with the nerf gun. So we've been doing like a neighborhood-wide nerf fight. That that's been the thing lately is nerf guns outside. But you guys do all kinds of things. Like you'll easily find stuff to do. And I think it's because you have not been exposed to a screen and you know what you like outside of just sitting in front of a screen.

SPEAKER_03 24:45

Yeah, it's not like that we don't like screen time. I mean we love our screen time, like, yeah, we want to watch a show, but we don't want to watch all day. That would just be horrible.

What We Do Instead Of Screens

SPEAKER_00 24:56

Yeah, that would be horrible. And Dad and I just feel like it's so important to get all the necessary things in a day done before you start watching TV. Because if you watch TV, then that kind of makes you want to watch some more TV. So first we need to get chores, reading, outside, move your body, all the things, then TV time comes. The next question was do you have a cell phone?

SPEAKER_03 25:20

No, we have two family phones, one's olden day, and then olden day. And then one's a gab phone, which only has ta texting, calling, and also some music, and I think it has like a map too.

SPEAKER_00 25:38

Yeah, we have a gab phone that Sailor will take sometimes with her. Not a lot, but there's been a few instances where I wanted to send a phone with her, and that's one she would take. She also has a gab watch, which I can put on her, and she can wear that while she rides around on her bike, and I could call her or I can see where she's at if I'm being nosy.

SPEAKER_03 25:59

And then the olden day phone, it's it's funny because it even has a cord and you have to memorize the people's numbers. It's good for you, yeah. Yeah, and then it's it's called Tin Can, that's the brand. And we just got it like three days ago.

Phones, Gab Gear, And Real-World Play

SPEAKER_00 26:17

We love it so far. We've had a lot of fun with it. We had our first person call it, which is funny, and we ran in there and Sailor answered it. So it's quite fun. Like she said, it's called the Tin Can and it runs off of Wi-Fi, but it's like literally just a phone, like we had in the 90s. So it's fun. And pe we gave our number to all of our family, and then Sailor had to write down all the numbers. So we wrote down grandparents, aunts and uncles and cousins, and so that they're starting to memorize the numbers, and it's actually kind of tricky to punch in the number.

SPEAKER_03 26:53

Yeah, because sometimes me and Squatty go too slow. We're like looking at the thing, we do the first three numbers and then we go too slow, and it's like ring ring ring. Oh, you can't call that. Mom didn't your parents or your mom or guardian didn't put it on their phone.

SPEAKER_00 27:08

Yeah, so it's funny. They have to learn to dial quicker. But we're working on it. So how do you feel about not having a phone?

SPEAKER_03 27:15

I don't mind very much.

SPEAKER_00 27:17

You understand why dad and I don't want you to have a phone and it doesn't bother you too much that you don't have a phone.

SPEAKER_03 27:24

No, but some of my sports when we went to a like a tournament and we would have to wait for the other teams to finish so we could go into the bracket and stuff. The three of the people on my team were just on their phones the whole time and they're just like, look at this, look at this, and it it was just so weird. And then me and my two friends, we were just talking and we wanted to go play, so we went to go play. And then they were just on their phones the whole time. When we asked them if they wanted to join, they said no. They said they wanted to keep playing on their phone.

SPEAKER_00 28:00

And that's another point about socialization is that even if you are going to school and you're doing all these things, you're not gonna socialize if every single person is looking at their phone. That's not socializing. But I do understand that it you feel left out. Like if you're the only one that doesn't have a phone and everybody's looking at their phone, that that's not cool, you know?

SPEAKER_03 28:22

Well, my friends don't have phones. They also have actually they do have phones, but they don't have all the apps that other kids do. I mean, it's still an iPhone, but they're not on it all the time, just texting and looking at photos and pictures and all of that stuff.

SPEAKER_00 28:39

It changes if you have texting and calling only, you're not gonna get addicted to your phone. So you know what kind of phone are you gonna get when you turn 16? A gab phone. A gab phone that has texting and calling, and that's what we're gonna give them. They know that already. I just think that that is the way to go for not getting you addicted to your phone. Alright, the last question for you today is about chores. So tell us about your chores. How often do you do chores?

SPEAKER_03 29:11

Two times a day, but if we have laundry three, yes, we do our own laundry. Our mom doesn't do it. She m she might help my little sister set the washing machine, but fold it and put it away, take it downstairs. How do you feel about doing your own laundry? Well, it's our laundry. We wear the clothes. I don't want to wear pajamas all day.

SPEAKER_00 29:34

So do any of your friends that you know of do their own laundry?

SPEAKER_03 29:39

No.

SPEAKER_00 29:39

So you don't feel like it's unfair that I won't do your laundry?

SPEAKER_03 29:43

Not really. I mean you have I mean, it's part of life. When you're older, they'll be like, who's gonna do my laundry?

SPEAKER_00 29:50

True, true.

Advice To Kids Considering Homeschool

SPEAKER_03 29:52

But some of our friends, they have to make sure their clothes aren't inside out, but their mom still does the rest. So Yes.

SPEAKER_00 30:00

Well, I think it's so good for you to know how to do laundry. I think you have a really good attitude about it. And you only recently started having to do your laundry when we started homeschooling, so that's a new thing for you, but you're pretty used to it by now.

SPEAKER_03 30:15

But also I'm gonna point out we do other chores too, like we clean the counter, we do the dishes, unload the dishwasher, and every morning there's like this weekly checklist thing, and we would look on it and it'd be Friday. We would go down, find our name, and it'd be like, Okay, Sailor, your unload dishwasher today. Everybody would either clean the counter and put things up, load or unload the dishwasher.

SPEAKER_00 30:42

So what's your least favorite chore?

SPEAKER_03 30:44

It's probably either laundry or loading the dishwasher.

SPEAKER_00 30:49

I love to load. I hate unloading the dishwasher.

SPEAKER_03 30:52

I like unloading better.

SPEAKER_00 30:54

You do?

SPEAKER_03 30:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:56

Alright, well then you unload and I'll load. See, there you go.

SPEAKER_03 31:00

Yeah, but you don't do the chores in the morning, you do like every other chore instead.

SPEAKER_00 31:04

Yeah, I do other chores.

SPEAKER_03 31:06

You vacuum, you have to do your own laundry, you have to cut Slate's hair.

SPEAKER_00 31:10

Alright, so the last question for you is what would you tell kids your age that want to be homeschooled? Or kids that are considering homeschooling? What would you tell them? What would you say about it?

SPEAKER_03 31:23

Well, I would say that it's a lot better, and I'll just tell them to have an open mind because it's so much fun.

SPEAKER_00 31:32

So you much prefer that than going to school every single day?

SPEAKER_03 31:35

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 31:36

Actually, last question. Do you think that you'll ever go back to public school?

SPEAKER_03 31:41

No, I'm never gonna go to public school again. I might go to college. It depends what I want my job to be when I'm older, but I don't know yet.

SPEAKER_00 31:51

Okay, so she still doesn't know what she wants to be when she grows up. We're working on that, but definitely a hundred percent, you're like, no public school for me. No. Alright, I like it. I like that plan. Alright, well, that is all we have for today for Sailor. And if you guys like this episode, we'll have her on again and we'll answer all of your questions.

SPEAKER_03 32:13

Bye, and I love answering your questions.

SPEAKER_00 32:17

Love answering your questions. So until next time, thank you so much for listening to. Well, this wasn't the planned podcast. Bye.

SPEAKER_02 32:27

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