Overcoming Homelessness: From Survival to Success with Rebecca Korn

Episode 032 — Overcoming Homelessness: From Survival to Success with Rebecca Korn

Homelessness isn’t just a lack of housing—it’s a full-body experience of uncertainty, identity collapse, and nervous system survival mode. In this episode of Overcoming Anything, host Anne Vryonides sits down with Rebecca Korn, who shares how she went from living in her car with $21 in her account to building a thriving business designed to help overwhelmed women scale powerfully—without losing themselves in the process. This conversation is raw, empowering, and packed with mindset and identity shifts that can change the trajectory of a life.

Welcome to a new era of business success where profit isn’t just a number, it’s a way of life. Rebecca Korn is the founder of Rise Reign Rule and a strategist for transforming “busy” into powerful. Having lived the grind, battled burnout, and rebuilt from rock bottom, she now helps women scale to $100K months with clarity, systems, and unapologetic power—because success should feel expansive, not exhausting.

Key Takeaways
• “I don’t bounce back. I rise different.” True resilience is identity evolution—not returning to who you were
• Rock bottom becomes the turning point when you consciously decide to “kill off” the version of you that accepts survival mode
• Wealth and success are built through micro-decisions made with ruthless consistency—tiny choices compound into a new life

Timestamps
• 00:00 — Introduction: overcoming homelessness and rebuilding from $21 to success
• 02:10 — Rebecca’s mantras: “I rise different” + “I don’t overcome things, I outgrow them”
• 04:00 — The beginning: pre-med dreams, ballet discipline, and a life that unexpectedly unraveled
• 07:00 — Marriage collapse + speeding ticket + living in her car (and the shame that followed)
• 10:30 — The identity shift: “Your safety isn’t tied to what’s on the outside”
• 13:00 — The bold move: walking into financial institutions and asking to be hired with no experience
• 15:30 — The outcome: beating every record in a 65-year period in her first year
• 18:00 — Survival vs success: how trauma trains threat anticipation, and healing trains possibility
• 21:00 — The first investment: hiring a coach and learning to rewire her mindset
• 24:30 — Rock bottom moment: the night everything collapsed—and the decision to live differently
• 29:00 — “Micro-decisions with ruthless consistency”: how tiny choices create massive compounding change
• 33:00 — Identity collapse and rebuild: dismantling people-pleasing, over-functioning, scarcity, and self-abandonment
• 38:00 — Reinforcing a new identity: using a “planner manifesto,” vision, and embodiment (not memory)
• 44:00 — Handling adversity: seeing challenges as “homework assignments” for the next-level self
• 49:00 — Family estrangement + boundaries: the bullseye method for emotional access and healthier connection
• 56:00 — Recommended books: the three titles that shaped Rebecca’s inner framework
• 58:30 — Where to find Rebecca and how to connect

Connect with Rebecca Korn
• Rebecca’s website: https://risereignrule.com | Instagram | Facebook

Resources
• The Untethered Soul by Michael A. Singer, https://a.co/d/0dPAHhN7
• Emotional Intelligence by Daniel Goleman, https://a.co/d/07GwX7d7
• Man’s Search for Meaning by Viktor E. Frankl, https://a.co/d/0fdPn124

If this episode helped you, share it with a woman rebuilding after a breakup, a parent who’s quietly carrying too much, or an entrepreneur who’s ready to stop surviving and start scaling

Transcript

Speaker 0:00

Welcome to Overcoming Anything, the podcast where we dive deep into stories of resilience, transformation, and growth. I'm your host, Anne Vryonides, and today we have an incredible guest who has overcome homelessness. Joining me today is Rebecca Korn. She's a coach and is CEO of Rise, rain and rule, and she has gone from being homeless and having $21 in her account to running a successful company. That helps overwhelmed women and turns them into millionaires. Her goal is one female millionaire a week. And she helps them with systems strategy and unapologetic power. So welcome to the show, Rebecca.

Speaker 2 0:35

Thank you, Anne. Thank you for having me. Thrilled to be here.

Speaker 0:37

Absolutely. So before we dive in, I always love to ask, what's one quote or mantra that keeps you going in tough times?

Speaker 2 0:44

Oh, this is juicy. 'cause I think that there are many different versions of this. One of the things I like to say is I don't bounce back. I rise different. And another one of the things I like to say is I don't overcome things. I outgrow them. cause suddenly they can't reach me anymore. It's just, ooh, you're always evolving. You're always expanding. Yeah,

Speaker 1:04

I love that. Just rise above 'em.

Speaker 2 1:06

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1:06

Amazing. Okay. Alright, well let's start at the beginning because this is a major story of overcoming going from $21 to super uber successful.

Speaker 2 1:16

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1:16

Yes. Tell us about this journey and, and where it all started.

Speaker 2 1:19

It was all, all by mistake. It's almost like you, you always have all these plans for yourself, and then the universe guides you differently and you try to fight it and eventually you learn that it's actually teaching you something. So I was originally primed for medical school, wanted to be a medical school. My whole life, since I was a little taught I would. Practice surgery and I'd practice putting things back together, all, all within like very healthy and very safe spaces. My family is all medical. I really enjoyed that space and really loved science and organic chemistry was one of my favorite topics, to either talk about or. Just even discover. And at the time I was a professional ballet dancer and so, I applied to medical school, got married super young, and had about $21 in my bank account because I had just applied to all these different medical schools, so you don't just apply to one. And back in the day, it took I forget how long it was, it was like six or nine months to find out if you actually got in.

Speaker 2:15

Wow.

Speaker 2 2:15

Now, my husband wasn't the person that I thought he was, and I ended up leaving without any sort of plan. And just like any very young woman would do, you're in this nervous system, emotional space of upsetness and fear and breaking points. And, I was speeding back to my grandfather's location and got pulled over. So really I had like negative 60 probably dollars. My, in my bank account. Oh no. At the time. Horrible. And I was so embarrassed that this had happened to me because I had thought I'm a smart person. Like I'm not bad with money. Like I, I shouldn't, I should know better. Like I shouldn't be bad with money. What's wrong with me that I got here?

Speaker 2:53

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 2:53

And, I lived in my car for, it was about, it was quite a few months actually before I got the courage up to actually speak to my grandfather. My grandfather was in his nineties at the time. Last thing I wanted to do was create any sort of stress for him. My parents had disowned me for, marrying outside the faith. And, it was a lot at that time. And your nervous system always tries to brag. You drag you back to what's familiar. Right. To kind of bribe you in that mindset of, just go back to the things that you know, like you don't have to be this uncomfortable, just go back. And something inside of me was like, you are gonna learn. That leaving things behind is always is going to be a blessing for you. That is actually going to be something that is a strength for you. And so I believed that and I thought to myself, what could I get started inside of that doesn't have a qualifier. I, at that time, pre-med, like I'm not qualified for anything, but I know a lot I can learn something. So I thought to myself, you know what? I wanna get into finance because I don't want this to happen to anybody else. I think everybody should understand money and that money should be something that empowers them, doesn't drain them. 'cause ultimately it's just energy,

Speaker 4:00

right?

Speaker 2 4:00

When people talk about resilience, they forget about your biological truth, right? Your brain is wired for survival, not success. And this is something that, when you have trauma, it teaches you to just anticipate and see threat everywhere. Whereas healing teaches you to anticipate possibility. And so I thought if I can heal this and I can, I connect with money and learn about money. I can weave this into other aspects. I don't know where this is gonna take me, but heck, so I literally walked into a financial institution and I said, I think you should hire me. I have no experience. I don't even have a house. I've never talked about money, but I wanna do this. I love. And the guy was like, what? And I was like, if you don't, there's five other institutions down the street, and I'm going to introduce myself to all of them. And so you should probably at least gimme an interview because I'm gonna be the best in this town. And he was like, I'll give you an interview. But I have to tell you, this is a really hard career. And I was like, I'd expect nothing less. That's fine. And I went to the rest of them down that street. They were all like one by one down the street, which is so weird. And I went to my grandfather and I was like, I have five interviews over this next week, but I don't know that any of it's gonna work out and it's all commission. He's like, what's the matter with you? Are you nuts? If you're gonna do a commission, you're homeless right now, you're going through a divorce, you're gonna, you're gonna get an all commissioned job. And I was like, yeah, why not? I gotta learn. I gotta learn somehow. And if they hire me and they give me a chance, then I believe that I can. And I beat every single record that they had over a 65 year period in my first year.

Speaker 5:23

Talk about internal fortitude. Wow. Woman. That's incredible.

Speaker 2 5:27

Not gonna be denied. So once your nervous system learns that your safety isn't tied to what's on the outside everything becomes available. It's like you unlock everything. Wealth, love, creativity, possibility. You stop patterning in this like mentality of survival and you begin choosing your adventure. It's like as soon as you realize that this universe has like this beautiful, abundant, I don't know that I would call it a buffet, 'cause it's so much better than that. It's but everything's right in front of you. And she's basically pick whatever you want. Pick your adventure. What would you like?

Speaker 5:56

Ooh, I like that mindset shift. That's powerful.

Speaker 2 5:58

It's yummy because it's so interesting. If you really play with it, it's really fun. I'll often say I don't manifest I create coach war millionaires. But at the same time I think that there's a lot of biology to breaking cycles and when you understand those pieces, you can identify the alchemy that allows you to roll. It's like you just get into this. I'm in this flow state and everything just keeps happening. And you out, you outgrow everything that you felt like you once upon a time identified with, and it's a really beautiful space to be if you can trust the. Not knowingness of everything around you.

Speaker 6:35

So true. So did you take personal development and growth to help you shift that mindset?

Speaker 2 6:41

Yes. In my first three months of being in finance the guy wasn't wrong. It was hard. I think my grandfather was also right. I think I was a little nuts. But first thing I did, as soon as I started getting, net positive in terms of dollars was hire a coach. I felt that it was really important to understand my brain space and how I was thinking. I wasn't a naturally positive. Mentality. I would actually say I was just a really negative, thinker. And, I was really good at anticipating threat, but that doesn't necessarily create an arena that you are looking forward to and actually enjoying. I think happiness comes into a, it's actually a skillset in my mind.

Speaker 7:21

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 7:21

So when you understand how to speak and you understand how to speak to yourself. You understand how to advocate for your boundaries. Everything begins to change for you. But sometimes we need a little bit of help along the way. And I've always had a coach. I actually have four coaches now myself. Wow. Some people say I'm high maintenance. I would just say that I have very tall goals, so I need some support. Making a millionaire a week is not a small, target or goal. The version of yourself who tolerated dysfunction can't lead you into the expansion that you can envision. But if you can envision it, it is something that has chosen you. And being able to really hold that and know that was chosen for you, is a gift if you allow for it.

Speaker 8:02

Wow. I definitely wouldn't say high maintenance. I would say high evolution. You are just evolving and evolving. Ooh, I love that. I love that. So how did you really get over like rock bottom and really find that internal fortitude to walk in that brokerage firm and to, to walk into that financial company?

Speaker 2 8:23

Great question. So one of the things I will say is that you have to be able to go to absolute rock bottom. You have to allow your identity to completely collapse. The night in my car where, the rain was pouring down on, I have, I had a Hyundai Elantra. It was just fumbling the roof of my car and I couldn't, I couldn't do it anymore. Homelessness isn't just a lack of housing. It's a psychological, disintegration of direction of safety, of belonging, of self-trust. And so the turnaround begins when you consciously say, I am going to kill off the version that accepts this. And so I was actually parked outside of my, grandfather's condo. My grandfather had lived in a, assisted living facility. He was in his nineties, so And, I knew no one was in his condo, and I thought, you know what? I can't deal with this anymore. I'm gonna, I think I'm gonna do a really bad thing, and I think I'm gonna break in.

Speaker 9:21

Wow.

Speaker 2 9:21

And I was like, you know what? I am just gonna try to get into the window and if the window doesn't open, I fully accept it. I'll come back in my car, it'll be fine. But the situation wasn't my problem. It was the identity of being in my car that needed to be reinvented at that moment. And it was literally a point where if I heard one more raindrop on that tin on the top I would just start to lose it. So I knew it was empty. I knew that there was probably dust or something bad in there, like bad food or whatever. Like no one had been in there for over a year and a half at that stage. And as I said, I wasn't, I was at odds with my parents and they had lived locally, so I was really afraid of getting found out. So I broke and I laid on the floor and I was contemplating ending everything. And I opened up my phone and I went to YouTube and I was like, reasons to carry on. And there was a Tony Robbins video that came up and, I sat with it and I just heard him through it because when I understood that. He was talking about releasing the old self and stepping into what you actually wanted. It was that particular night that I cried the whole night and I, I got up the next morning. There was no soap, there was nothing in there. I mean, it was totally empty, but at least I could get a shower and I was so excited to get a shower. And, I took a shower. It was very quick because I wasn't sure if anybody would catch me there. And I went straight to my grandfather's and I told him, I said, listen, I have to tell you everything and I am embarrassed and I'm upset, and you don't have to judge me. I've already judged myself for the last couple of months. And he is here's the thing, I'm gonna give you $20. Now my grandfather is not somebody that's ever going to give you the ticket. Fully, he's gonna give you just enough for you to fix your problem. Which,

Speaker 11:07

okay,

Speaker 2 11:07

I respected. Yeah. I was like, fine. 20 bucks. All right. What can I do with 20 bucks? That's smart. Instead of buying food, I bought a jacket and pants that fit me, and that's how I walked into the financial institutions one by one. Wow. And I thought, if I can just look the part, they'll hire me. And that's where, people imagine millionaire success to come from one big break. It doesn't. It comes from micro decisions that you make at ruthless consistency. And I knew that I could be consistent, and I knew that if they gave me something to learn, I would learn it. And so when you wake up with purpose, everything changes because nothing else feels like you're in this numb looping. When you wake up with purpose and you know these are the steps I'm going to take it, whether that's a blue blueprint that a coach has for you and you are committed to it, or that is a different way of thinking and you're committed to it, decide that. The first thing I'll say is let your identity collapse a whole, like completely. The next place that I would say is make a micro decision of some sort of non-negotiable discipline. Nobody can take you off of it. Not your spouse, not your boyfriend, not your mother, not your sister, not your brother. Nobody. Not your dog. Nobody including yourself, because when you have that. Skill acquisition. When you are starting to build that skill, you no longer distract yourself with the ideas of, could something bad happen? You are just obsessed with where you're going. And that small step can make the biggest changes in a person's life because. It allows you to have a compounding interest. Just like money, right? It's a compounding interest and it gives you a completely different trajectory. Oh, baby, yes. You can have compound interest on credit cards or you can have compound interest in your investment account. What should you rather? And so no matter where you are today, allow yourself to think about a tiny decision because a lot of people think those tiny decisions don't matter. But the french fries matter 'cause they junk up your brain. And that the ways that we are choosing to be around friends that drain us takes up so much more than just that lunch that we had with them. And so those tiny decisions that you don't think matter are the ones that actually have the ability to build your next level. Truly. And so when you become ruthless in that discipline, you become really able to start to leverage and scale your liberation, and that's the most beautiful space that you could possibly give yourself.

Speaker 13:22

Wow. I'm blown away. I'm blown away. That's amazing. So chunk this down for us if you can. So how do you really abandon your old identity? Because so many of us, have this identity and it was crafted from society, from our parents and it's not an easy thing to do to recreate an identity and to just collapse it.

Speaker 2 13:43

Yeah. That's a good question. When you're recognizing that you're in this place and you're allowing these parts of you to release

Speaker 13:51

mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 13:51

It's about intentionally dismantling the version that you believe you are. So the survival modes that you have, the abandonment, self abandonment habits that you have, the people pleasing or the scarcity, the negative talk, the over-functioning too. Is in there.

Speaker 14:11

Yeah.

Speaker 2 14:11

So you don't fight her, but you appreciate that she is trying to push you into an old habit or an old way of being.

Speaker 14:21

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 14:21

And you say, I appreciate that. That is where you think that we ought to be. But you have to be able to notice those patterns first. It's like when you're in a fitness studio and somebody like corrects you on something.

Speaker 14:33

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 14:33

And your knee isn't completely over your toes and you're like, but it feels like it is. What are you talking about? Right? Yeah. And then you're like, you're staring at it and you're like, I don't see what they're seeing. But you keep looking. Keep looking and then eventually you either see it or you're like, Ooh, I felt that wiggle. I know. I just tried to cheat it. And so you slow down a little bit to make sure that your alignment is correct. It's the same thing in the spirit. You are gonna think you are absolutely right in people pleasing somebody or over-functioning or being in this like trauma adaptive type of cycle. cause you do that thing and you are conscious of it, but you're also not conscious that's your thing. And so tells the truth to yourself about what that thing is costing you. Tell the truth to yourself that you, that she can't take you to the place that you're wanting to go. That if you keep doing that thing, it will continue to sabotage and create the experiences that you're most used to. So that I'm an over giver or I'm just a pleaser, or it's fine. I can do that because I'm the girl that survives. That's not sexy, honey. That's not Uhuh. No, I, and I wish I had an auntie like myself where somebody like smacked me upside the head and said no, sweetheart, that's not sexy, but it's a compassion conscious editing, so allow for it. Notice it. It's a little uncomfortable. Just like when you're fixing something in a fitness studio, you're like, oh, why am I going slower than everybody else? Does anybody else notice this?

Speaker 15:56

Mm-hmm. Wow.

Speaker 2 15:57

That's the collapsing. That's the collapsing. So then when you choose the new identity, you have to choose that new identity based on a vision, not a memory.

Speaker 16:04

Yes. Yes. So how do you think is the best way, or what do you think is the best way to reinforce that new identity? Do you do hypnosis, affirmations, or what's your modality of choice?

Speaker 2 16:15

Yeah. Actually first I go into something that's gonna be wildly old fashioned. My grandfather raised me and, forgive me if this is so old fashioned, it feels antiquated like an abacus, but here we go.

Speaker 16:27

Not

Speaker 2 16:27

at all. I create, so, you know, those like notebooks, I'm looking around 'cause I'm wondering if I have one. But, those, planners, those planners that they come out right around now, and you buy one and you're like all excited 'cause it's 2026, baby. Yeah. I don't know about you, but I could never do those. I could never get sick through them linear. I'd skip multiple weeks and then I'd be like, no, that's not where I'm at. So this is what I do. I break it up completely. I break it up into business ideas and ideals that I want. What is the identity I wanna have in business? What does she look like?

Speaker 16:55

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 16:56

I break it down to travel. Where do I wanna go and just let myself dream? What would I pack? What would I wear? Where would I wanna go when I was there? And just adding those pieces together for yourself. This is like a journaling meets, um, almost like a manifesto of like what you desire, the clothing that you want. Cut it out of a magazine, put it in there. The type of, uh, closet you want, the type of car you desire, the type of planes you wanna be flying on, the type of experience you wanna have. Now, I once upon a time would've told you that this was complete delusion. But honestly, I think it's some sort of like neuroplasticity that opens up, that meets manifestation that allows for you to rewire the new model that you desire. Because the woman that I was, would not have embodied the friends and the business and the travel that I desired. There was a big gap between them.

Speaker 17:48

Okay.

Speaker 2 17:48

And it happens faster than you think because within that first year, I was in my dream car. Which was not a dream car that you would imagine. For me, it was a lower tinted out Audi. It was the rims the bigger wheels, all the things. And I loved it. It was so fun, Uhhuh, and I knew it was just for a season, but I was like, I just can't wait to be in this car. Now, is a car a fiscal, a fiscally responsible thing to purchase?

Speaker 18:14

Probably not a depreciating asset, but that's okay. If you felt good in

Speaker 2 18:17

it.

Speaker 18:17

That's all that matters.

Speaker 2 18:19

That's what matters. And so how you start with what you felt good in, whether it's the clothes you wear, even if no one's seeing you, whether it's the shoes that you're like, I love these shoes, and they don't go with my sweatsuit today, but I don't give a hoot.

Speaker 18:32

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 18:32

Because I'm aware of them.

Speaker 18:33

Yes,

Speaker 2 18:33

so the identity rebuild is you constructing a self that matches the life that you want to live, even if you're not there yet, because it gives you this invigoration of, I get to do, I'm an. I am, an unsupervised adult all the time.

Speaker 18:48

I love that. I'm an unsupervised adult. I'm an unsupervised dreamer. I can have whatever I want

Speaker 2 18:53

totally. I could have dessert for breakfast if I wanted to. Now I have to think about that to say to myself, what kind of day does that create for me? But I could do it if I wanted to on a sat on a Saturday or Sunday where I just feel you know what? I wanna eat dessert for breakfast. I don't care. I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna do it just to be a bougie, like enjoy my life. So think about what are the non-negotiables for her? How does she think, how does she, what does she tolerate? What does she not tolerate? At my table, nobody talks about people, they talk about ideas or they talk about the way that they think. And it's incredible to feel that, because I got into a conversation with a buddy of mine whom, asked me, he was like, how do you make a decision on a menu? I was like. Is a great question. Yeah. How did you get there? And he was like, I dunno, I was just thinking about it like, how do you, how did what? What makes you make those decisions? So your identity

Speaker 19:40

mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 19:41

Is part of your next empire and she's just beginning in this space. Wherever you are, start that. Allow your brain to rewire. Embody. Embody that new OS system, upgrade it. It downloads and it takes some time, but it is something that is quite beautiful.

Speaker 19:56

I love it. I love it. So going back, so you get the planner, so every day do you put something like a new picture in there and then you flip through every day to just reinforce those new

Speaker 2 20:06

Totally

Speaker 20:06

neuropathic,

Speaker 2 20:07

totally, totally. Ideal clients. Client wish. I have a client wishlist. Of people I desire to work with and I can't wait till they choose. But I'm not chasing them. It's just more of a desire of like, I'm calling it out there knowing that in order for me to work with those high profile individuals, I must have this next level inside of my identity, inside of my reworking. And so it's something I get to look forward to or the. The travel locations, like I have a whole plan for Italy and Spain and it's so funny because literally this morning my bow said, I think we should go to Spain in March. I never told him about it. I've never told him Wow. Anything about it.

Speaker 20:45

Wow.

Speaker 2 20:45

And I was like, oh really? I think I know exactly what I would wear there. And I went,

Speaker 20:49

I have a map. Locations, hotels, restaurants. And outfits. I'm ready, let's go.

Speaker 2 20:53

He doesn't even know. But that's how it happens because it's just like that's part of your essence. Like you start to just breathe in that space. And it does happen. It's a really beautiful thing. I don't call it manifestation because I genuinely think you have to work at it. So to your point, like you open it every day, and I might not have. That invigoration or that inspiration that day. But I'll tell you, when I sit with that book, it's like, oh my gosh, this is gonna be so beautiful. I can't wait. But I also love living here too. Like it's, I love living where I'm at and I love where we're going. And even though time is moving and changing, it gives a lot of joy to it.

Speaker 21:29

Got it. So what are your thoughts on adversity? Because even though you're very, positive, obviously adversity is gonna come up along the way. So how do you handle those speed bumps that come up in your life?

Speaker 2 21:42

Well, lemme just ask that. Yes. I love adversity. I think it's a really important piece to making better decisions as the woman I'm becoming. And so when I see adversity, I see it as a homework assignment. Of, okay. What is being challenged in my routine? What is being challenged to make for me to make a decision at my next level here? I feel this discomfort in my body, or I'm noticing that I'm in an arena that feels a little bit off, or I don't like the way that somebody has said something to me. I am breathing with that for a second to decide where I am at and where I desire to go. So it's like you flash into the person that you're becoming and the person that you are right now. And you're saying, how do I take that first step over the bridge that has that, it's like some Simon Garfunkel, right? The bridge over troubled waters. Like how do I get a little bit of an elevated view here because it's not necessarily me in it.

Speaker 22:33

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 22:33

It's what is crafting me to become.

Speaker 22:36

Interesting.

Speaker 2 22:36

Yes, always. I mean, it's hard sometimes because, you want to un uninstall everything that fed the old identity and you are trying to upgrade into the, both spiritual, the faith-based and embody cognition of showcasing that healing and knowing that you're healing. But in order to do that, you are. Your new identity is going to lead and reality is going to follow. So there's always going to be a little bit of like a reality with where you are right now. There's always gonna be like a little bit of a regression to it. Makes sense Because it's what you, that

Speaker 23:10

makes sense.

Speaker 2 23:11

Yes. Does it? Okay, good. Yeah,

Speaker 23:12

absolutely. So how do you prime your mind every day? Or get into alignment so you are like ready to go?

Speaker 2 23:20

Yeah, this is much more simple than, I used to have a multiple hour morning routine and meditation and manifestation and all of that. I sit down, I have a delicious, like cozy, yummy chair in my corner of my office. Before anything gets touched by sunlight, I just sit down and I just absorb into where I am and having so much gratitude for. What life is right now, which is really easy for me now, but when I was also homeless, I did that too. Meditation has been something that has been incredibly helpful for not only my mind, but bringing my nervous system to this beautiful place of I'm safe in my body. I'm okay. My body has me. I don't really need anything.

Speaker 24:03

That's

Speaker 2 24:04

good. I have everything I need right here. It's like being a plant,

Speaker 24:06

right?

Speaker 2 24:06

You have the sunlight, you have the air, you have the water. You're okay. So when you start there, usually my coffee is heating up in some capacity. For some reason. It takes a really long time for that to go, but it's five to 10 minutes and it's just pure bliss. And then I begin, I actually write down all the things that I'm concerned about. Concerned about. And that's usually stuff that is toggling in my mind that I want to move on. And so if my mind is telling me like, oh, there are these things over here that allows you to get some of that momentum happening.

Speaker 24:36

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 24:36

And it's like a natural feel good space. So that means that you're letting go of some of those. Tasks or those things, if there's misaligned relationships, I'm choosing to release them. That means sometimes upgrading my physical space where I just am neatening up everything around me. So I feel really clean and compelled and organized. That's always a lovely little luxury.

Speaker 24:57

Okay. Take me back to, because you said your parents disowned you when you married outside of your faith. So how do you have a better relationship with them now and how did you overcome that? And if you don't mind sharing and do you have any tips to overcome? Maybe family challenges where you're, you wanna stand in your power where you wanna hold your boundaries, but still reconnect, especially with, the holidays coming up.

Speaker 2 25:22

Yes. So great question. 'cause with the holidays coming up, I think there's a lot of stress. There's a lot of toxicity within families that people don't, often talk about. So when family becomes your first heartbreak, that's like happening. Even before you're getting married. It hits differently. There's this idea of love that's endless that you have, that is told to us that you'll always have your family. So when you're disowned, whether that's emotional, whether that's physical or psychological it fractures a lot of your, self-concept. They had a funeral for me. So it wasn't just a rejection, it was that what? Oh, yes. They completely removed me from everything. And so my nervous system went to this place where I was. I was not wanted, and that wasn't the first time in my life. My, my real dad walked out when I was about two and a half, and I remember it vividly. And so your nervous system interprets that threat to survival because biologically we're wired to depend on our parents, our caregivers, our heroes. Right?

Speaker 26:25

Right.

Speaker 2 26:25

And so that got rewired when I was quite young. And then it got rewired again, still quite young. I got married quite young. But the spiritual truth is that I was not birthed from my parents, I was birthed through my parents. For me at least, that was my understanding. And my grandfather and I were best friends. And I didn't understand at the time, why I was getting rerouted to Central Pennsylvania. But I did know that there was a reason, cause everything that had happened to me in my life, I mean, I was drowned in ba bathtubs. I had, cigarettes burned between my fingers when I was really little. And so honestly, I didn't feel that homelessness was the worst in that equation. I felt actually that the disownment was the worst, where I couldn't call my mom. Now we have a much better relationship. But what I saw with that was that they rejected the version of me that threatened their limitations. I was professional ballet dancer by the time I was 14. I graduated high school by the time I was 15. Wow. I was very driven. My ambition was very high and. I can't imagine what that was like raising a child like that. I was reading books, like I, I was breathing, like I, I still read about 150, 160 books a year.

Speaker 27:41

Wow.

Speaker 2 27:41

So you can't break a cycle, or belonging. Because a human is somebody that belongs to herself spiritually, but also has a system in her body. And so I was thinking about that and I was thinking to myself, if I can just get along with people in a different way, maybe not everybody has all of me. So I actually teach this as a technique where, you have a bullseye ring around you.

Speaker 28:06

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 28:07

Who gets in on the closest ring, who gets in the next level, what do you talk about with them? What do you not talk about with them? And that goes out and out. So my inner circle are my dogs and my bow, and my inner world. And that's a beautiful space. There is a space that is just mine and God and the Divine. And out a little bit further might be friends first. And this might juggle up the ways that you see family or the ways that you. See the ways that you connect. Because you might feel safer with friends or you might feel safer with a girlfriends and that there's nothing wrong with that. And so sometimes your families don't challenge you because you're wrong or they don't have different viewpoints because they're wrong or you're wrong. It is not necessarily, there two things can be right at the same time.

Speaker 28:51

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 28:51

I agree. I can be both right and wrong at the same time.

Speaker 28:53

Right.

Speaker 2 28:54

My question for you is what kinds of conversations do align for you in those relationships, and can you keep it to that? Where if they ask you about other pieces, it is simply, oh, I'm not going there today. Thanks for asking, but I'm not going there today. Those boundaries are everything, so I think that when we start chasing approval. Or we start abandoning ourselves because we desire to be belong to something that we think we should belong to. That's a question for us to really root into our spirituality of who are you and where do you really belong and where do you really come from?

Speaker 29:26

Wow, that was deep. But I like the analogy of that bullseye because I think we all do that maybe subconsciously, but we never really visualized it like that. And that really kind of like seals the deal in terms of who belongs where, what conversations go on at what level, and then who do you maybe need to move out a ring every once in a while and then maybe you can move them back in. But. Maybe you're just moving em out.

Speaker 2 29:49

Exactly. And really thinking about those parameters. Like do it in pencil too, because the first time you do it, you'll have so many scribbles. Oh my gosh. You're like, wait a second, where does this, wait. No, I didn't think about that. It is it's so interesting. But also I'll say this, grief is not a weakness, it's an integration. It's a part of yourself that is just understanding. Even deeper. And so it's how your, it's how your nervous system is digesting your world.

Speaker 30:13

Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Alright, hey, I always, wrap up with is there a book that helped you on your journey that you can recommend to our listeners? I know I'm sure you probably have a lot, but maybe one favorite or even a couple to share.

Speaker 2 30:26

Oh my gosh. The Untethered Soul is a really beautiful book. I forget the author's name, my apologies. Also emotional intelligence, if you can handle it. It's Doc by Dr. Daniel Goldman. I think that's an incredible book. I read that nearly every year. And Man's Search for Meaning by Victor Frankl is all three of those are just a stellar combination. If you could read 'em all at once, that'd be great, but those are really wonderful.

Speaker 30:50

Awesome. Great, thank you. And then, this has been such an in inspiring and I don't even have words for it, and just incredible conversation. I guess I just wanna say that you have just really opened my eyes and I'm sure that your nuggets of wisdom, your framework, your ideas will really make a difference in people's lives. So where can people follow you, connect with you?

Speaker 2 31:11

Rise Rain Rule on Instagram. If you wouldn't mind sharing the handle, that's probably the best way. I still handle all my dms. I know I have over a hundred thousand followers, but it doesn't matter to me. It matters to me the intensity of the conversation behind the scenes. Any questions your ladies have about business or building or getting into that millionaire mindset and then that millionaire. Actual physicality of things. Please don't hesitate to hit me up. Ask me questions, gimme voice messages. I am very active and responsive, and I'll tailor my content to what people need the most. I feel like very deeply I'm in service to all of you, so please, riser and rule or riser enroll.com. Happy to help.

Speaker 31:51

I love it. I love it. We'll put all of those down below in the show notes to make it easy for everyone to connect with you. So thank you so very much, and if you found this episode helpful, please share it with someone who might be facing a similar challenge and needs this message of hope, inspiration, and motivation. So don't forget to subscribe and I'll see you next time on overcoming Anything.