S2E4 Sober

In this week's episode, your favorite host, Ed, delves into the taboo world of sobriety and talks about her sober journey. Some facts and educational information are sprinkled in between to spread awareness of the real repercussions of alcohol abuse. 

p.s. It will be almost two months into my sober journey since the recording of this audio and we're doing great! 

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Hey everyone, welcome to Cheese Me Out Loud. This week's episode, we're talking about sobriety and my sober journey and really on why I became sober. I'm choosing to be sober, and I have not well, this is gonna be like my forever. This is something that I'm deciding to do for the rest of my life, pretty much. And this is the first time that I'm actually since I started drinking deciding to be completely sober, which is really exciting for me. It's a little scary. I'm not sure how it's gonna go. I know it's a journey. I know that most journeys aren't linear, and that's okay. You're gonna ask why. Why why, Edlund, are you becoming are you choosing to become to be sober now today in 2026? Well, let me tell you, it's it's mainly for health reasons. I'm obviously in my 40s now. Really exciting stuff. Your body really starts changing a lot. I'm also diabetic, as I've mentioned before, and I do have anxiety. I have anxiety, PTSD, different things like that. Alcohol definitely doesn't help in those areas of my health. I want to make sure that I have a healthy liver. I'm already taking those diabetes pills, your liver and such, and so I don't want to contribute to making anything worse. And uh also um I'm afraid that because this is a chronic disease that really attacks your brain and your internal organs, and we'll touch upon them a little bit more because this is a chronic disease. I'm afraid that things can get worse. Things as as it would start attacking my brain, that it can get worse with changing my personality, it usually makes people more aggressive. I'm deciding to become sober, I want to be the best version that I can of myself. I am practicing a lot of extra self-love and care for myself, and I feel that to gain the clarity that I need in terms of like how to move forward with my life, all these exciting projects that I want to do, that it it needs my uttermost attention, and it's time, you know. My body's telling me that it's time, it will be time for me to become sober. When did I start drinking? So I started really drinking at 21. I say really because you know, we're all we're part of a Latino family, and Latino family people be giving kids drinks to try whether it's like some sort of a reverse psychology thing, or I don't know, they find it amusing or something. I mean I remember my cousins and I at parties drinking those I I'm gonna be aging myself right now here, by the way. Those bottles and James wine coolers. Does anybody remember that? The B and J wine coolers, beer, stuff like that to try. And of course, when I was little, I'm like, ugh, beer, this is nasty. Why why are they drinking this? It's not like my my freaking apple juice or my Capri Sun or whatever, you know. There is another one. I can't remember. Is it the I guess the high C. Oh my god. Yeah, another throwback to that era. Really aging myself here. It's not like your high C's or anything like that. Anyway, as a kid, we were like, ew, we don't want to try that. Maybe temporarily did the reverse psychology work, but then especially growing up as a millennial, like you turn 21, it's like your rite of passage, like boom, automatically here you go. Happy birthday. Here's your shots, here's whatever get fucked up. Today the goal for you is to get fucked up. And guess what? Ellen got fucked up that night. I mean, I was crawling, that's that's how bad that was, and I ended up getting sick, throwing up the whole nine. But I mean, that's kind of what everybody expected me to do, so get I did that. In my processing and stuff, I uh definitely I mean I continued drinking for social purposes because all my friends did it, because it's every party, you know, there's beer, like yeah, let's do it's it's every event was revolved around alcohol. I never really like smoked or anything like that, so like other substances were I've I've I don't really do, I haven't done. I I tried like a few edibles once, and that that's another story which is really horrible, but I guess I'll quickly tell you now before I forget. I accidentally tried a hundred grams of an edible milligrams? I forgot what it's called, like a lot, a big dosage where I was supposed to take only like one twelfth of that or so. So I accidentally took a lot of edibles and I got really sick and I was on like a trip and and I've noticed that it uh makes me super anxious, like it it really triggers my anxiety really bad. And I and I to the point where I was like, don't leave me alone, please, you know. Send my friends. After that, I kind of like that was my cure. Like, I I don't want to deal with marijuana, I don't want to deal with edibles or weed, like that's not my thing. I respect people that do that, you know. But it's just it it never was my thing, and it's it's not it that's those are my experiences. I've never really smoked. I did try hoca once, I did hookah like a whole bunch of it, but then throughout my life I've always been like sensitive to smoke. I don't really I'm not I'm not able to be really close to people that are like smoking cigarettes because that I guess it's the secondhand smoke or whatever, but it it um it affects me, like it it uh can makes me congested, it makes me feel sick, like literally. Nothing against them not being like a snob or anything, but it really does affect me. And so the same thing happened uh when I tried doing hookah. This was I don't even remember when it was, but this was more than 10 years ago. Tried it once, then I realized that apparently I had smoked the equivalent of like a hundred cigarettes that night because hookah is much more potent and like more pure, I guess. Um, not too you know, don't quote me on the exact reasons, but that's my understanding is that if when you do hookah, you are smoking the equivalent of about a hundred cigarettes, and so that's crazy. But the I definitely did feel it. My body was like, What would you just do? Um, because I was super congested, my sinuses were acting up, I felt like I couldn't breathe, my lungs were not happy with me, and I had never in my life smoked before that night. My body was really unhappy. Uh-huh. Thankfully, I didn't do it again. I it wasn't, it's just not my thing. Again, it really my body is sensitive to that, and also caffeine, believe it or not. When people usually like there's they go sober, they try to replace it with like drinking a little coffee or whatever. I don't even drink coffee. Side note on coffee because it's it's kind of like a running joke for me when I tell people that I don't drink coffee. I I've tried it, I've had it a few times, not my thing. Uh, I either get like uh like acid reflux, it and it really like attacks my sinuses again. I have a lot of I usually um well I tend to have like a lot of sinus allergies. Coffee is not my good it's not a friend to me either, unfortunately. I know that everybody loves it. I know that it's unpopular opinion, but it is what it is, you know. I'm just sensitive to caffeine, so I don't really I avoid it. Uh I don't drink sodas with caffeine. Teas, that's the only thing that I'll do because it has to lesser amount of caffeine uh than coffee. I love me with some chai teas, herbal teas, of course, but yeah, chai tea is my any good works on chai teas, please send them my way. Yeah, so I kind of rambled back and forth. In terms of like subsistence like that, uh really be uh alcohol had been in. And when I was younger, like I would party hard. We would drink on those hypnotics and the zombies, adiosis, what else? Longline Lindaiced teas. I used to like like cranberry and vodka a lot. A lot of more like the vodka-based drinks, I guess. Tequila, I I automatically know that I would get sick. It's we it's really interesting and weird how there's different types of alcohols that make you that are like react you react different too. Like tequila, I it it's not even enjoyable for me, so I can't even stand the smell. It makes me feel nauseous now, right? Before, yeah, I was like, okay, give me a shot, and then it was hard, but once I did it, I I was able to do it again. Von I don't know, maybe it's just smoother or something. What do you guys think? Yeah, so I mean I I've tried a little bit of everything in terms of alcohol. Mescal, I've tried it once, it stuffing wasn't my thing. That thing really burned my chest when I drank it. I know it's like I don't know, 80-proof or something crazy like that. Um, a lot of people like it. I don't I don't even like the taste. For me, it's like this weird smoky taste, but it's too strong for me. That's the real main point. The root of it really is that my father was an alcoholic. It's just it's genetic, of course. I didn't really like grow up with him. He and he actually I I remember him like becoming sober and like writing on a Bible that he swore that he was never gonna drink again. Something he must have done something big. Now that I think about it, like damn, you wrote it on a Bible and like gold he actually got like a gold pen and he wrote it. Um I don't know, I must have been like ten, eight, I c I can't even remember, but I remember seeing that, or like him telling me that he doesn't drink anymore. And you know, obviously he he's also diabetic, and that's also where I got that from. And now that I think about it, damn, all the bad things I got from my dad. Thank you, father. Yeah, so basically that's the root of it. Um you're much more likely you have a high probability of uh being an alcoholic yourself if you're one of your parents are alcoholic, or more you're more likely to become an alcoholic. If one of your parents or both, I mean, drink or use substances or are addicted in some way, I guess. You you are you tend to be to have more of like that addictive gene in you. It's not even a personality, it's it's a gene. Now that I've been learning a lot a lot more about like how alcohol affects your brain and organs, it's a really crazy trip, guys. I mean, I it it would be like I would go to shows, concerts, bars, and and then I started like wanting to like and this was like right after grad school. My friends, my group of friends, shout out to them, and I started like wanting to like seriously date. I was a late bloomer in dating, guys. I not told a lot of people. I tell I tell my friends and stuff, but it's not like a public thing. I don't know. I was just a nerdy kid focused on college, on getting my career, on making money. You know, I I knew that my mom needed help, single mom, three kids. I'm the youngest one. My brothers were already when I was graduating college, they're they're already like married with ch a lot of children each, they're doing their own thing, and so basically it was kind of like just me and my mom and my aunt that lives with us. Yeah, so that's really what my focus was. But then, you know, I was ready to start dating, and dun dun dun, here's where it comes. My anxiety. Like, I have a lot of social anxiety. I was like, damn, I have to go up to some girls and talk to them, like what? I was freaking scared shitless. I never really went clubbing like that until like my early 20s or mid-20s, I guess, 24-ish or something like that, 25. Like, I started getting into like going into clubs, and first it was like the straight clubs, and then I'm like, okay, I think I'm ready to go to a gay club with a lot of anxiety because I'm like, where the hell else am I gonna meet people? Obviously, there was online and stuff, but I wanted to venture out and also have fun, and also wanting to make more friends in the LGBTQ community as well, which I did. I actually used to run a meetup called LGBT 20s. Shout out to that. I don't know where it's at now. Yeah, that was a lot of fun, made a lot of great friends out of that. Yeah, with that, there's just a lot of social events revolving around drinking. I have a drink, you know, to get that quote unquote liquid courage. I would have to like get buzzed, get drunk, and or whatever, you know, and then it's uh my anxiety goes away, I feel better. Like all of a sudden your body just relaxes, and you're like, oh man, this feels good. Everything's good, you know. It starts being good. I had been drinking for what about like 20 years now, and this is actually officially this is actually like my fourth day sober, and I'm very proud of myself. For that, partying it up, doing all this, uh using alcohol to mask my anxiety was fun and interesting. I'll get into a lot of random adventures, which is funny, but masking my anxiety, and so that's gonna be something that's it's gonna be really interesting. Now, things have shifted, you know. Your body in your 20s, partying and everything could withstand all that, and your liver works extra hard to process alcohol in your body and stuff and filter it out and your kidneys. Alcohol started being my best friend, started being my first best friend, and then now turned out to be my enemy because it's been doing a lot of damage, you know. And as somebody that as a daughter to an alcoholic, I have this uh addictive genes, it's not just one drink. You go out there and you're like, Oh yeah, I'm gonna have like one or two drinks, and all of a sudden you realize you're like five beers in, and you're like, Oh holy crap, I didn't plan for this, but it feels great, feels amazing. Wow, been in situations that perhaps could have been avoided in my past that has happened. So, like the more that you keep on drinking, the more that alcohol affects your brain and like in the ways that you process emotions. It gets really scientific, guys. Actually, like I'm I'm just really in really deep into the research of how alcohol affects your body and your brain, it affects it, it affects how you process, how you think, your emotions. Instead of making your anxiety better, and it may make it temporarily better or satisfactory enough for you in those moments of when you're drinking, it actually makes it worse. Like the next day you start having a lot of anxiety, and you're like, Oh crap, like my god, I don't like this feeling. Or like if you have feelings of depression too, you can have them, and make or it exacerbates it. It just it's just not fun. And I think that because of how long I've been going out socially drinking and all this, and thinking, like, oh yeah, I mean it's it's just normal, it's a thing that everybody does, like what? But then it's like boom, your doctor tells you, like, oh, you have a fatty liver, and you're like, damn, like you know, this is real now. Like, it's kind of scary how your body's starting to change now and it's being affected. It's time to take things seriously because it you're not getting any younger, you know. Really, those are the reasons why I'm choosing to become sober, and I encourage anybody who's kind of like on the indecisive as to whether they should just be fully sober already, maybe around my age or a little older. I would say definitely try it. It's worth it's worth the commitment. You are worth the commitment, you're worth choosing yourself. You're amazing as you are without alcohol in or substances in in your life, you know. So, um, I also wanted to share with you guys some facts. Like, for example, like in LA County, approximately 7.6 percent of residents aged 12 and older live with a substance use disorder, which includes alcoholism, according to a 2022 report. And while roughly 6% of adult drinkers in LA County engage in chronic drinking, the risk increases with factors like high local alcohol outlet densities and areas, you know, that have like a lot of bars and stuff, and you know, uh reasons why. Although now I'm hearing that nowadays uh a lot of like Gensiers and newer generations aren't really drinking, which I think that's amazing. Um, not sure like what contributed to that, maybe just a lot more of the education on substance use and abuse. I think it's great. I think it's great that they're choosing not to drink alcohol as a poison. One thing that I remember, like a few years back, I was at a supermarket and there was this lady advertising of a Mexican beer brand that had just come out. I'm not gonna name the the company because you know they ain't paying me. They're not sponsoring this episode. So uh yeah, and so she's like, Oh yeah, you should try this one, blah blah blah. This one's ha this this beer has less additives than like uh the other ones, the other beer brands, the other more popular brands. I'm like, oh cool, okay. That kind of always is kind of like stuck in my head, but I never really listened to it. I don't really like that beer much, but in hindsight, I kind of know that it's quote unquote healthier than the other ones, or at least then like the the most popular one that starts with a C in terms of Mexico Mexican beers, and talking about those additives, like those, they like besides the fact that alcohol is already an addictive substance, an addictive drink that gets you hooked, they add more stuff, and that's the part that like that really got to me, and it's still kind of like ingrained, and now I'm just like oh shit, like fuck, like fucking corporate greed, bro. These people want to keep us down, they want to keep us sick, and they want to keep us addicted. And if it's not enough for us to get a little addicted and like wanting to drink more and more, they add more, you know, they add more stuff. Damn, like it's it's pretty tough. It's hard out there, you know. But there's resources, there's resources for people that aren't able to like kind of like stop on their own and be sober, which I'll talk about in a minute. How how alcohol affects your your health and your brain, let me tell you right now. So, alcohol affects the brain by altering its chemical balance, interfering with communication pathways, and potentially causing structural changes over time, and that's kind of what I was telling you guys about. Classified as a central nervous system depressant. So that's important and that's key. Alcohol is a depressant, so if you're feeling depressed, you're feeling down, your anxiety is up, and guess what? It's gonna make you feel even worse, and that's why you get the feelings of like anxiety and depression the next day after you've drank. As the blood alcohol concentration, the your BAC levels that are measured, um, those are the measurements of like when cops stop people for like a DUI or whatever. As that concentration of blood uh of alcohol in your blood system rises, it impacts different brain regions and stages. You can have a neurotransmitter imbalance, alcohol boosts GABA, an inhibitory chemical that causes relaxation and calmness. Simultaneously, it suppresses glutamine, which is an excidatory chemical, which leads to slowed thinking and responses. That's why people like become slurred in their speech and are slower and they walk slower, whatnot, right? And so, combined with that, adding on top to that, we have impaired judgment. It affects the frontal lobe of your brain, the front part of your brain, leading to reduced inhibitions, poor decision making, and increased impulsivity. I definitely have experienced all of the above and the impulsivity and like yeah, let's do it. You know, also loss of coordination by affecting the cerebellum. Alcohol causes slurred speech, blurred vision, and difficulty with balance. That's why you see people memory blackouts. This is kind of like the scariest ones for me. Um, the scary fact is that high levels of alcohol can temporarily block the hippocampus from transferring short-term memories to long-term storage, resulting in gaps or blackout. And so sometimes people have like framed blackouts, and so you remember like bits and pieces. That's literally, and there's times when like maybe something happened and you don't remember that you did that. Whenever you're drinking, you're like, Oh shit, my hippocampus is getting messed up right now. So that's why I I'm I had this blackout and I can't remember. I or I can barely remember bits and pieces, depending on how much um how much of a blood alcohol level you have. I think talking about long-term effects and chronic use uses, prolonged or heavy drinking can lead to lasting damage. Brain shrinkage. Chronic alcohol use is associated with cerebral atrophy, a literal shrinking of the brain's gray and white matter. If that's not scary enough for you, I don't know what it is. Wernicke corsakov syndrome, often called wet brain. This is a severe disorder caused by a theamine, vitamin B1 deficiency, which alcohol common interferes with. It leads to incre extreme confusion, vision problems, and permanent memory loss. Increased dementia risk. Actually, now that I think about it, it makes sense. I have an uncle who's a an alcoholic, and he's recently recent years, uh, he has dementia. He's been diagnosed with dementia, and it can definitely be why because he is a very heavy heavy drinker in his life, all throughout his life, pretty much. Heavy drinking over many years is a significant risk factor for developing alcohol-related dementia. Another mental health disorder is long-term use. We wire the brain's reward system, exacerbating or causing depression and anxiety. The adolescent brain is particularly vulnerable as it is still developing until the mid-20s. Your brain is still developing, and that's why people are very vulnerable up until their mid-20s. Um, many structural and cognitive impairments can improve or even be reversed, so there's still hope with long-term abstinence, often several months to a year of sobriety. That's when you really start seeing a change, a difference, um, and your body is you know working hard to like repair again to get back up. Like those are the reversing effects of if you do start drinking growing up with seeing that I didn't really see my dad at all ever drink. He's an alcoholic, but I never saw him drink. But my experience uh with that, with seeing alcoholism in my family, was pretty bad. I was little and I would see aunt and uncle fighting all the time, and it and there will be there a lot of domestic violence, and then you see him getting sick or like falling down the stairs, not being able to climb the stairs, finding like I I stumble upon finding him being asleep by the stairs the next day. All that is is crazy, you know. It's crazy to think I grew up seeing that. It was scary, yeah. I mean, I was a kid seeing all that. Thankfully, I guess things started getting better, but he definitely drank a lot. It's something that really affects relationships and that's the part with alcoholism. Anybody can end up any person who suffers from substance substance uses can end up unhoused very quickly because it does affect it takes a large toll on your family, children, on your partner, all those things, and as it progresses and gets worse, like your behavior starts changing. You can become more aggressive, you can become snappy, you're not able to fully like really be present at times and thinking about my uncle. And so those are really like the effects of alcohol how it affects your body. Fatty liver that that's not taken care of fatty liver then can turn into cirrhosis and that's how a lot of people die when start see a lot of those people it's a common thing amongst heavy drinkers and alcoholics. Your liver just kind of shatters alcohol is also a dehydrant like it dehydrates you. Just drink a lot of water in terms of other consequences too like it can since you have impaired judgment it can lead to like having a car accident in that car accident you end up hurting yourself or killing yourself or killing somebody else as harsh as that sounds that's that's the truth. It's the reality times people think that I only had a few like I feel just fine I don't feel drunk I'm okay to drive it's important to also learn how all that affects your body so in terms of that um females definitely have a lesser tolerance females generally become intoxicated faster than males often experiencing higher blood alcohol concentration the BAC levels that we've talked about previous from the same amount of alcohol so you can be drinking the literal same two beers than let's say I as a female can be drinking the same two beers that my cousin over there is drinking but it's gonna affect me more than him there's also other factors involved it's also due to lower water content higher body fat and less alcohol dehydrogen enzyme which breaks down alcohol females also show faster progression to heavy drinking females are more prone to become heavy drinkers than males. Metabolism and enzyme in this in terms of like the speed of drinking um I'm just gonna have to drink early on and then I'll eat something and then it's gonna go away or I'll take a shower. The alcohol still in your blood system and even after you go off driving it still be over the alcohol limit which is 0.08 California and you can get a DUI although you've had like two drinks but let's say especially if you're female and if you are petite or thinner slimmer less body fat you're actually going to get drunker quicker than somebody who's like bigger taller more body fat like me so males have actually more active ADH in their stomach and liver allowing them to metabolize alcohol before it enters the bloodstream while females have less allowing more alcohol entered into their bloodstream so the way that we're receiving alcohol is quicker and we as females our body allows more of it bigger higher BAC levels body composition in terms of that females typically have a higher percentage of body fat and less water than males leading to higher alcohol concentration in the bloodstream we hold less water in our bodies in general than males therefore more alcohol can come into our system there's also hormonal factors hormonal changes particularly before menstruation can make women feel the effects of alcohol more strongly if you're out there drinking pre premenopause pausal because you're feeling shitty and everything hurts and you know that your period's going drinking is probably not the best time during that time. Telescoping women tend to progress to addiction and physical damage like liver disease faster than men even if they drink less overall again scary so a comparison example a 130 pound female drinking four 12 ounce beers in two hours could have a BAC of about 0.12 whereas a 170 pound male drinking the same amount would likely be roughly at a 0.07 BAC level there you go this is exactly what I was talking to you guys about. Women just have a higher risk of becoming heavy drinkers as well as getting drunk quicker. Women start taking shots and they can get drunk faster and the guys are still like okay but that's that's really why because it's all biological it's all in our system also like I've learned that alcohol stays in your system so you can actually get a DOI the next morning like let's say in our 20s we've gone out drinking and stuff or clubbing millennials right who who here as a millennial hasn't you go out drinking or or you go out clubbing or have whatever that let's say it's a Thursday night. You go out right you've drank you've gotten pretty hammered whatever or college like college students all the all the time so the next day you have to show up to your internship or you have to show up to work and you're like oh feeling crummy you're still feeling the effects of having drank the previous night and your BAC levels may still be higher than the legal allowed limit which is 0.08 if you get stopped by a cop the next morning you can still get that DUI alcohol takes about 14 hours to leave your system so if you're planning even if you don't drink and drive to go to the event the night previous if you have something to do the next morning try not to drive or really plan it out. If you're in a car with somebody your friend let's say even if you haven't had one drink but you allowed them to drive and you're in the car with them guess what you're gonna get in trouble too you could potentially I believe you could potentially get a DUI or be held liable because you allowed this person to drive knowing that they weren't able to drive it can cost up to like ten thousand dollars to figure out the whole DUI situation and I think it's becoming increasingly more expensive. There's just a lot of consequences in that we need to just really be very responsible with this I don't know maybe somebody has a job that's very strict and that can be a an issue with them. If you're mixing substances you're you're more likely to be like combining substances if you don't have your judgments not not all not that good you're likely to go and want to try something else or something you're likely to do something that maybe you wouldn't have tried while being sober. Definitely seen all these stories alcohol turns into our worst enemy like you ask yourself like is it really worth it and that stays that is cons uh DUI is considered a misdemeanor and it stays in your record it can stay in your record up for up to 10 years. The other crazy fact is that there's a high chance of you getting that second or even third DUI. I've definitely known people that have experienced that are in that situation and everyone's on their own journey you know because if you think that like I only drink socially like I don't know I I don't think I have a drinking problem. One drinks becomes two two drinks become four four drinks become eight like guess what that that kind of is a problem especially if you're predisposed if one of your family members one of your parents was alcoholic just be careful y'all if you try to use it to cope with depression there's also like AA meetings and substance use groups support group all kinds of help is out there you know I'm really trying to motivate people becoming their best selves heal enjoy life I know that we like to get that dopamine rush from alcohol and stuff and there's a lot of other free ways free free 99 of getting that dopamine hit you know one of them is exercising doing things that you love and enjoy don't make the event to go and drink because that's most likely where you're gonna end up most trouble. Also the fact that you're sleeping in your car you can still get a DUI even if you're not driving like let's say you've drank that night and you decide to just sleep in your car as long as you have that keen that ignition or even like in your pocket anywhere you can still get a DUI wildly enough. I think you can even get a DUI on a bike so like you know take a lift y'all phone a friend do whatever but just be very safe out there. When you start to heal when you start to really focus on yourself and give yourself that extreme self-love face your demons whatever you have to do like that's when everything starts really smiling back at you start living a more fulfilled life maybe you gain that clarity that you're looking for those answers you start being more focused because you're out of that gloominess that you've been in that drunk stupor for whatever amount of years like once the the body starts repairing again the brain after the months after the year I know that I've definitely experienced experienced brain fog while drinking and stuff. I'm excited now like with no alcohol in my system I'm excited for that year to come but I'm really excited to see how all that pans out and the difference in my body because people say that although you drink socially not a lot and drink every day you're still having alcohol in your system and stuff and it's still affecting your brain in ways that we don't even really know because of course they don't want us to know and of course they don't tell you that there's fucking keto alcohol and it's literally like keto alcohol all that harmful stuff that a lot of people like pour in shampoos and and not to have in shampoos and not to have in lotions that they put in their skin guess what you're ingesting it like you're directly putting it inside your body you're drinking it. Do you research become educated read the word you know that beat the system because the system wants us down if they want us sick not sick enough and of course we need to work and produce and make more money and give money and buy and consume right uh but they want to keep us sick and they want to keep us addicted. Well this is it I hope that you enjoyed this episode and then I at least was very educational for you and I get to really think have a great one everybody