Once Upon A Time In Music
"Once Upon a Time in Music" is where culture. Each episode takes you back through the sounds, stories, and style that shaped generations — from classic tracks and unforgettable albums to iconic movies, favorite foods, and random pop culture gems you might’ve forgotten. It’s music history, fun memories, and good vibes all in one show.
Once Upon A Time In Music
Timbs, Tapes & Timeless Beats
The guys talk about hip-hop’s dopest beats with special guest Jones from The Music Jones Podcast—spanning Wu-Tang to Redman, BDP to Dipset, Jeezy to Souls of Mischief. Plus “Snack Time” nostalgia (Certs fruit, Big League Chew, Lifesavers Holes) and a quick “Movie Flashbacks” vibe. Tap in for memories, debates, and neck-snapping beats.
Oh Lord. That was the last ticket I got, I think. Fucking with Cool G. What album was that? Back in 2000. No, I'm sorry, that was 05. Yeah, 05. Because it came out in 99. But I listened to that Cool G rap, that Roots of Eva album. The first time I ever heard Papoose. Yeah. Because he was on that uh the home sweet funeral home joint.
SPEAKER_02:I don't even know when that. I don't even know when that came out.
SPEAKER_07:It came out of either 98 or 99. It came out of one of them. Came out of 98 or 99. That was my shit.
SPEAKER_03:Shout out to Jones. If y'all didn't know, we was already recording. Oh shit. This is L. This is the music, Music Jones podcast tonight. No, um, what up, everybody? This is the Once Upon a Time and Music. I'm L.
SPEAKER_00:I'm Cheryl Poison.
SPEAKER_03:And we got a guest again. I see y'all see, I see y'all hears him. He's talking about that old boom back rap as uh B B Easy would say from the DJ Blaze uh radio show podcast. We got Jones from the Music Jones podcast.
SPEAKER_00:Welcome, welcome.
SPEAKER_05:What's going on, y'all? How's everything? Can you hear me? Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:You can't hear at all? Uh well, I'm gonna get you, I'm gonna get you straight.
SPEAKER_07:Y'all keep on keep on uh but yeah, man. I'm gonna thank y'all for having me back on, man. I appreciate it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, we enjoyed you last week.
SPEAKER_07:I really enjoyed it. Oh, I ain't gonna turn on. I'm tripping. Yep.
unknown:There we go.
SPEAKER_00:We're gonna have to come on your show one day, too.
SPEAKER_07:Oh, absolutely. That definitely needs to happen. So I can um we can return the favor. Yeah, we can drive be little be easy crazy with the boom bap conversations. Yeah, but I I thoroughly enjoy being on with y'all last week.
SPEAKER_03:Definitely. We enjoy having you, man. We we we had the the you know the the regular, you know, north versus south for a quick little second there. But you know, we we got a new show today. Yeah. Today's show is what is it, Cheryl?
SPEAKER_00:The dopest beats, in your opinion. In your opinion.
SPEAKER_03:Hip hop, hip-hop's dopest beats or hip-hop, our favorite beats in hip-hop. I know there's so many of them, but we only gonna go through like maybe five to seven of them.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, because I got I got a lot. I got a lot I could name.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, we all kind of got a uh a different a different amount. I mean, we all got like different ones, which is good. Yeah. Cause uh except that one. That one I thought um I was gonna be the only one to have it, but uh Jones got it.
SPEAKER_07:Oh, let's see.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that that that's that's a classic. But um, what else we got going? We got uh uh what we got snack time.
SPEAKER_00:Snack time.
SPEAKER_03:Movie flashbacks. It's a regular Thursday morning. If you listen to it on Thursdays, it's in the morning. Because that's you know, that's when everybody listened to it. Or Thursday evening. Um let's get into snack time, huh? Cheryl, what you what you um what you wish they still had or what I wish they had and discontinue.
SPEAKER_00:They don't have this, is certs. I used to get the little pack of certs. It was like assorted fruits, yeah, certs, and it had like a little bit of fruit in the middle, and they don't make those no more. You could get like regular certs like spearmint or peppermint, something like that, but they don't make the fruit ones. Yeah, that used to be my joint.
SPEAKER_03:You know what I remember? I remember the certs, holes. It was the the hole part, like yeah, they get rid of the good stuff. Yeah, they do. All right, I got one. This is from when you were a little lad. You was out running around. You you know, you thought you were grown. You if you played baseball or football, you know what this is. It's called Big League Chew.
SPEAKER_07:Yep. Absolutely. A shredded bubble gum that looked like chewing tobacco. Chewing tobacco.
SPEAKER_00:And you didn't have to play football or baseball because I used to eat that. You doing it too?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. You had it, you know, you put a big glob in your mouth and you spit and all that back.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, like you got tobacco. We did it. Whoa, oh God. Baseball is my first love, so we kept that in our pocket.
SPEAKER_03:It came in a little baggy, like, like a that you could resill it or fold it back down. And it rolled up in your back pocket. Yeah. Yeah, man. Um, that's mine. Jones, what you got? You got you, you got anything you wish?
SPEAKER_07:Mine would be the lifesaver's holes. The holes, right? I don't know if nobody remember, but they used to like sell just the the little piece.
SPEAKER_00:That's come from the middle part. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Like I used to love, I used to love joints. It came like in a little thing, kind of like Tic Tac.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:All right. Um, well, I mean, we could get into it since we got uh a good slew of uh songs. Who wanna go first? We'll let Cheryl go first.
SPEAKER_00:I'll go first. Ladies first. Ladies first. Okay, this song, this is like one of my favorite songs. It's like in my top five. I love this song from the first time I heard it. And it's from my boys, Rain Ghosts. Can it all be so simple? Riza killed this beat.
SPEAKER_03:1993.
SPEAKER_00:I'm really not into slow beats, but this beat, yeah, this is dope.
SPEAKER_03:Uh, this from the album uh Into the Wu-Tang 36 Chambers. I'm telling you, when this came out, when this album came out, Staten Island was in a frenzy. I'm from I'm from Staten Island slash Brooklyn. Everybody, you know, everybody's either or. But the city was going crazy. Yeah. To go to another borough and they were playing that loud in their cars, you knew it was gonna be some. Yeah. And that was it. I mean the woo did that. They did that. Man, I I wish we could go back because I remember. It was so simple. Man, you're right. I think I was in, what was I?
SPEAKER_07:I I I might have been like sixth grade, seventh grade. You probably was in the seventh. I was in the sixth. That's 93. Yeah, I was in the sixth.
SPEAKER_00:So I was a yeah, I was six or seven. And y'all was little.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I was in 11th grade.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, I was in the sixth grade.
SPEAKER_03:You were almost finished.
SPEAKER_00:93. I was almost finished.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I had.
SPEAKER_07:I was in the sixth grade.
SPEAKER_03:I had a whole lot more. I had four more to go. Four more years. So I was in, yeah, I was about seventh grade. Yeah, eighth grade. Yeah, so I remember, I think it was either Ghost's sister or Ghost's cousin went to my school. And she brought that white, it was protect your neck. She brought the the singles. They used to have the singles. And she started giving them out. I was like, yo, where you get that from? No, it's my brother. I think I think it's a it was a family member or something like that. Well, come to find out, ghosts ended up living around the corner from us. And we found out, like, oh, so you know, we were walking by, kind of looking in, you know, trying to see Mike spot on. One day we even, I think we even broke down and went and knocked on the door. Like, I was a little bit like.
SPEAKER_00:You can't take it no more. I got the meeting.
SPEAKER_03:You got the tape. You know, we looking for the tape. We looking for the tape. But um, I don't remember. I he didn't answer the door. Somebody else answered the door or whatever, but I ended up getting a tape from her. And I wonder who she I wonder who exactly that was. I gotta ask some other friends. But uh, I ended up getting that tape. It had met the man on one side and protect your neck on the other. I wish I had a copy of that. That single single, yeah. That white case, the white cardboard case single. Yeah, that was that was it.
SPEAKER_00:All right. The remix to this is pretty alright, too. Yeah, that had the um that did it have a different beat. It had a different beat.
SPEAKER_07:It did, right? And it was on uh purple tape.
SPEAKER_00:It was on a purple tape.
SPEAKER_07:Word. Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_00:All right.
SPEAKER_07:Well, um all I remember was the that land, that land cruiser. Oh, yeah. That burgundy land cruiser and that snow beach snow beach pullover.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that was classic.
SPEAKER_07:I was like, damn, I want that. Yeah, couldn't get it though.
SPEAKER_03:I think that snow beach, that that's a classic, man. That's in hip hop, like it's stapled in there. Like it is. I I like the I like the video, but at the time I was looking for, yo, who we gonna see in it? Because you know, being in the area, you wanna see who's gonna be in it. And you know, that between that and the location, so we was like, oh, yo, they're gonna they're gonna film it in Stapleton, they gonna film it in Park Hill. They end up filming it, I think, over there by the Coliseum. I think that was, I think it was part by the Coliseum, and um, I think Bay Street also. So you know, you did kind of figure out, but yeah, you know, you want to see, yo, that's such and such in the video, but you know, it was a good time. It was a good time. Jones, what you got, man?
SPEAKER_07:My first one and most my this be this song is is just always gonna do something to me. BDP, the bridge is over. It was a battle going on in New York between Boogie Down Productions and the Juice Crew, and this shit set the South on fire. So they was feeling it down here too? Oh my god. I died like my sister is class of 92.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:So she's in high school, freshman in high school, eighth grade, when this shit dropped.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:So every weekend they had parties and shit. Uh-huh. But my pop used to DJ with the guy who used to DJ, he was like the hype man for the DJ.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:So all the parties and shit, after the parties, whatever he played, my sister would get the records from him and go make her a take.
SPEAKER_03:Get out of here.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, so every weekend this was a routine. When she brought that shit in the house, I was in my room playing my Nintendo. And she turned that shit on. I paused my game. I said, what the hell is that? I ain't supposed to be cursed. I'm about 78.
SPEAKER_06:You know, what the hell is that?
SPEAKER_07:I'm in the room, so I start playing, and she played it, and she played it, and she played it. And I was like, that is the toughest shit. I said, That's it.
SPEAKER_00:What is that?
SPEAKER_07:And ever since then, that shit has been embedded in my brain.
SPEAKER_00:And I'm from Queens, but you can't deny it. This shit. You can't, you can't deny it.
SPEAKER_07:This is the first rap song to have Jamaican patois on it.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, you're right.
SPEAKER_07:He he added reggae to hip hop. This is like his first or second song.
SPEAKER_00:The bitch is over.
SPEAKER_07:This shit changed. Like, and I'm telling you, down south. Oh man, they love this shit, man.
SPEAKER_03:That's crazy.
SPEAKER_07:I I would never even thought that. Man, shit. They loved it down here, man. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_03:This is off the album Criminal Minded, uh, Boogie Down Production.
SPEAKER_07:Rest in peace, Scott LaRock.
SPEAKER_03:19. Yeah, that was the first artist that I heard got killed. Yeah, like everybody was like, What? Um, 1987. Whew. The bridge is over. I was six years old. So if people don't know, the bridge is over. That was like a response to Queen's Bridge. The bridge. The bridge. Yeah. MC Shane. Yeah, MC Shane. Yep, yeah. And uh, that's a hard beat. And I'm mad because that's one of mine. So that was on my list.
SPEAKER_00:I was gonna put it on my list. I was gonna put it on. I was like, I'm gonna do something different. I'm gonna do something different.
SPEAKER_07:But you can't like it it's undeniable songs in hip hop. Like, I understand why y'all, y'all older than me, y'all from up there. Uh you know, got family. Like, I got family from up there too, but this shit, man. I'm sorry, I keep cursing.
SPEAKER_06:You can curse, you can curse.
SPEAKER_07:This song was just that. It was everything. Yeah. Like it was everything. This was my uncle shit. My uncle Luddish shit. The lyrics, taking shots, and then like it started. Like, they even did a whole album catered to that battle. Uh, the battle of rap supremacy. I don't know if you ever heard that or saw the album, but it was an album that came out where one song was Shan, one song was clear. Oh, word. Yeah, like they did it like that.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, word. I gotta I gotta go check that out.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, see if you can find it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:My uncle used to love this song. This is this is my uncle lived in Brooklyn, but would come to Staten Island to hang out with my brothers and stuff like that. Like people didn't people saw him so much, they thought it was from Staten Island. He had uh Delta 88 with the with the with the uh the Gucci bag hanging from the window. He had the the fluffy um tail the rabbit tail, the raccoon tail, yeah, a white one and tinted out windows, delta 88, dark blue with a system in it.
SPEAKER_07:And that was like that's that song go crazy on some.
SPEAKER_00:I was about to say it's probably knocking a collar.
SPEAKER_07:That's why I love it even more. Because as I got older, when I got my man, they was like, what are you listening to? Don't worry about it. You don't understand. It's a purpose behind it. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:All right, we're gonna get into mine. Mine isn't mine, is a little bit newer. Uh I think this was 1993. Ooh.
SPEAKER_00:From a little a little place called Queens. Big Queens. Put some respect on that.
SPEAKER_03:Onyx. Um, this is the album was back the fuck up. This is Shifty. And this beat right here, skating Ray Face. That beat, that beat right there.
SPEAKER_07:I mean, I'm telling you. Like, sir. That beat it.
SPEAKER_03:90 93. I was like a teenager. 93. I I was I was starting to feel myself a little bit. You know, going outside a little bit more. No, you know what? Going away from the block a little bit more. Yeah. The parties, you know, you know, it was you know, like house parties was it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:That's a good album. I used to love that album.
SPEAKER_03:This whole album. The whole album.
SPEAKER_00:I ain't gonna say I'm gonna say tape. I had the tape. Yeah that tape.
SPEAKER_03:Give me your give me your favorite song from it.
SPEAKER_00:I got a lot, but the one I listened to a lot was sucking the next nigga.
SPEAKER_03:Well, I think you was gonna say something crazy like that.
SPEAKER_07:I'm gonna go and throw your guns.
SPEAKER_03:Throw your guns with me. That one's good too. That was my, I think that was the first video that I seen guns in. Like unblurred out guns. That one and and um MOP's, how about some hardcore? Yeah. Those are the first. I think the Onyx ones, they was in like the salt hand, salt hills.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:In New York, you know, winter time, they gotta put the salt out. Yeah. They was in like they was on the hills of the salt. On the hills, anyway. Yeah. And that that video was crazy. They had Tech Nines and Mac 10s in the video.
SPEAKER_06:I was like, yeah, that I like that.
SPEAKER_03:That was it. It was so simple. Yeah, that was that's shifty. Um, that wasn't that was the B side of throw your guns in the air album. If you was a DJ, I DJed the time, so that was the flip side of it. With two bangers. I can't believe they put two bangers on it on it like that. All right, who next?
SPEAKER_07:Jones? You next? I can go next. No, who's a who are we gonna keep it in order? Yeah, we'll keep it in order.
SPEAKER_00:Excuse me. All right, I'm going old school. This was one of the first songs that I kind of knew all the words. I would practice all the words just because I love this beat.
unknown:You know so well.
SPEAKER_00:I had a little horsey named Paul Revere. Just me and my horsey in a quart of beer.
SPEAKER_01:Just me and my horsey in the middle.
SPEAKER_00:That beat right there.
SPEAKER_03:That's from Licensed to L. License to L is still selling in stores. Absolutely. And it's gonna sell forever. It's gonna always sell. That's what that's gonna sell forever.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:This is from 1986. Now, 86, I don't know if white boys was buying this. But we was buying it. Yeah, but once the 90s hit, it started being on the shelf with, you know, the other people's buying that. Um, this right here was licensed to LBC Boys.
SPEAKER_07:Because Brass Monkey on that same album, right?
SPEAKER_01:Them boys had some wild beats, man.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, this they had some good beats, had some dope ass beats. They did. That's some dope beats.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that's a good one, show. That's a that's a real good one. Who next? Jones? Yeah, what you got? I'm glad we don't have any more that's gonna match up.
SPEAKER_00:And I'm glad I picked extra Slick Rick Mona Lisa off of the This used to be my song.
SPEAKER_07:Off the Great Adventures of Slick Rick album. 1988. 88. 88.
SPEAKER_00:I remember it.
SPEAKER_03:Man, I think this is like children's story. Was no Chubb Rock was like one of the first ones I learned all the words, but children's story was enough.
SPEAKER_00:And the way the beat comes in, he be like, enough. And then that beat come in.
SPEAKER_07:This part that I had a discussion on my show about this album. When it came, when they dropped the greatest 10 hip-hop albums of all time, and this was number 10.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it shouldn't have been.
SPEAKER_07:And them boys said it shouldn't have been number 10. I said, Y'all, y'all lying. Like, y'all don't even understand what this album did on hip hop.
SPEAKER_03:It should have been up for everything.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, like me and Doogie got into a real live argument about it. So I had to start naming songs off the album on it. B Love was like, he pulling up from the parking lot on you, dude. Because like this album was so great. Yeah, it was. In 1988, the sound was like, it's damn the timeless. Yeah, like you can play this song now and you wouldn't be able to tell unless you listen to what he's talking about. When he said Kangool and like that type shit, you'll know where it's from.
SPEAKER_03:But other than that, I'm looking at the cover right now. I'm looking at the songs on it. And Treat him like a prostitute. There's four songs off the top of my head. Oh, five. Uh children's story, treat them like a prostitute. The first song on the album. Hey Young World. Hey Young World, Teenage Love, Teenage Love. Moni Love. I mean Moni Love Mona Lisa uh an Indian Girl. Indian Girl.
SPEAKER_07:Indian Girl. Indian Girl. One of my favorite songs off the album. One of the greatest rap albums ever.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that's classic.
SPEAKER_03:It is.
SPEAKER_07:But this beat, it really is. My wife got footage of me dancing to this at a concert. We went to see Slit Rick at a festival in Atlanta. Yeah. I was going crazy.
SPEAKER_03:That's one person I'd never seen that I always wanted to see.
SPEAKER_07:Oh man.
SPEAKER_03:I had a chance to see it.
SPEAKER_07:In this old age, he put on a great show. Yeah. Oh, God, yeah. I danced, man. I danced till I passed out after the show. In the car. I ain't even as soon as I got to the car, I passed out, man. Oh, man. Shout out to Ricky D, man.
SPEAKER_00:Shout out Slickwork with the Jewelry, with the Wallabies. And it was always fresh.
SPEAKER_07:And they still use his jewelry. The rap. They call him to their shows to borrow his jewelry. Yep.
SPEAKER_06:Yep.
SPEAKER_07:Shout out.
SPEAKER_03:Which is dope. All right. Is it my turn? Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:It's your turn.
SPEAKER_03:See, I I now, you know, I'm shuffling through my list. Now I'm not going to order no more. So y'all bringing all these bangers on the club. Okay. Okay. I'm going to have to go with this next one. This next one's from the hometown. Wu-Tang clan. Also from Into the 36 Chambers. Shame on the nigga.
SPEAKER_07:Shame on a nigga.
SPEAKER_03:Shame on the nigga. 1993. Just the if you hear this come on in the party at the time. It was a scuffle going on.
SPEAKER_07:That's a get hype song. This shit gets you hype.
SPEAKER_03:And really, they had so much to say, because at the time, you know, everything was Queens, Brooklyn, Bronx, Bronx. You put this on, and you was proud to be from Staten Island.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Like That was your one time, ain't it? No, it wasn't. That was Wu Tang was your one time to shine. No.
SPEAKER_07:But it was nine of them.
SPEAKER_03:Forcome D's. Ooh, they from Staten Island? Man, uh, I used to run through their yard to go to the store. Tinder Love? Oh. Man, I used to they used to live on a corner, corner of the same street as me. I used to cut through their yard to go to the store. Run in run to the store. Shout out to Mercury. Who else? I mean, there's other people from Staten Island. Wu Tang made it, don't even matter. You know what? Wu Tang. Yeah. We're gonna say Wu Tang's the only one from Staten Island. Be proud of that. They're not the only one. I ain't even gonna say that.
SPEAKER_00:Be proud of that.
SPEAKER_03:They're not the only ones. Pop the Brown Hornet. We just made 25 years. His album just came out. 25 years. Okay. Shaheen the Rugged Chow. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Um C's, Peach Fuzz.
SPEAKER_00:Not Peach Fuzz. Whoever it is. Peach Fuzz. Peach Fuzz.
SPEAKER_03:Um C's. Um you might as well say Audio 2 is from Statin. Oh, okay. Because Audio 2 has done so much on Staten Island.
SPEAKER_07:That's the one I forgot.
SPEAKER_03:Oh.
SPEAKER_07:That's the one I forgot.
SPEAKER_03:We all forgot that. That's the one I forgot.
SPEAKER_07:We all forgot. I was trying to think about it. I didn't forget.
SPEAKER_00:I tried to do something different. We talked about that before.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, I tried to do something different too. That top villain, boy. Top villain. That might be the wrong one. You can't go wrong with that one. That's one of the greatest beats. And it's been used a hundred times over. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. All right. Well, that was mine. Shame on the nigga. Enter the Wu-Tang 36 Chambers and asked. 1993. Good year. I like that year.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that was a good year. 93, 94.
SPEAKER_03:Yep, yeah. Who next? Sure.
SPEAKER_00:That's my turn. Uh-huh. All right.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:When this came out, I wanted to smoke blunts. I wanted to have my Tim's on. I just wanted to be a thug.
SPEAKER_03:This right here, the whole group. I'm going to call it a group.
SPEAKER_00:I'ma call it a group, so.
SPEAKER_03:Black Moon?
SPEAKER_00:Black Moon. That was 93. 93 was a good year.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So the week, what we do, welcome down, we're like. Into the stage. Black Moon, 1993. That was a strong one. I I was surprised you picked that one, not the other one. You know what the other one is. I got you open. I got you open.
unknown:Oh.
SPEAKER_00:How many MCs? How many MCs is good too?
SPEAKER_07:Who got the props? Who got the props?
SPEAKER_00:Who got the props? Remember that? Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:I'm surprised you didn't pick that one.
SPEAKER_00:I didn't bump this as much as I bumped the other one. Oh, for real? How many MCs? Buck them down.
SPEAKER_03:I got you open.
SPEAKER_00:I got you open. This one, who got the props was more radio friendly. I told you I was trying to be a thug. I was trying to get some guns. Get some we what's up?
SPEAKER_03:You had your Timbs on, right? Yeah. You definitely had the Tims on. That was that was a good one. That was a good one. Jones, what you got, man? See, this is the The Diabolical. This is in that era, too.
SPEAKER_07:Biz Markey. Off the going off album. Make the music with your mouthpiece.
SPEAKER_01:Make the mouthpiece. I want you.
unknown:I want you.
SPEAKER_07:This beat. Like I said, I used to ride around in the 2000s listening to this type of shit. Like, cause I didn't have a car with Wolfers when it was out. But man.
unknown:Girls get excited.
SPEAKER_00:I actually met um Bizmarke. Did at a jam and a park.
SPEAKER_07:Oh man. I'm not gonna say I became a good one.
SPEAKER_00:He was like low-key trying to holler.
SPEAKER_07:He had to be one of the coolest guys. I saw him at a yo Gabba Gabba concert. He ain't cool.
SPEAKER_03:He wasn't cool. He ain't cool. He wasn't. Nah, I don't think I ever told this story. I might tell it now.
SPEAKER_00:Tell it now.
SPEAKER_07:God is do, man.
SPEAKER_03:Man. All right. Downtown Brooklyn had a famous music store. That's when I was DJing.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:They had a favorite, favorite music store. Downstairs. It was called Downstairs Records or something like that. Well, I'm in there getting something. I'm Gary Walk out. God bumped me hard. Look up.
SPEAKER_00:It's biz.
SPEAKER_03:It's biz. He turned, look at me, and kept on going. Oh, he didn't say excuse me on that. Nah, he definitely didn't. He definitely didn't. So at the time, you know, this is that time. My raise, my race is already clicked. It's already clicked. Because downtown Brooklyn was it was treacherous around that time. This was had to be 97. 96. 96, 97. No. I was a teenager. 97. 97. My razor was already. You know, the old the orange razor with the levels on it. Yeah. It was already. I was ready because I didn't know what it was. Like, you know, I just turned from the oh forget biz, man. Rest in these bit.
SPEAKER_00:He probably was feeling himself. He was like, you bumped into me. You should say, excuse me.
SPEAKER_03:I know this is his home, like, he's, you know, Alby Square Mall, Fulton Street. Yeah. That's his stomping grounds, but damn. I'm the little teenager. I was the YN.
SPEAKER_00:You mad about that.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I was mad. Look, I didn't think about that story until you said you met her. And I was like, you know what? I'm at that.
SPEAKER_00:I met that mother lady. You tried to get my digits.
SPEAKER_03:Nah, I was mad about that. Oh, man. Don't be mad. Let that go. I'm sorry. I forgot about that. I forgot about that. Alright, I'm sorry, Cheryl. Okay, okay. Who's out? Oh man.
SPEAKER_00:You'll be alright.
SPEAKER_06:You'll be all right.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, matter of fact. Oh, not that not that one. Not that one. There we go. Okay, okay. Alright, so make the music with your mouth, Biz. Shout out to Biz, man. Shout out. I think that was like 86.
SPEAKER_07:80, yeah. 87. 86, 87. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I remember, I remember when it was out. You know, on streaming platforms, they're gonna say 94 because they don't know.
SPEAKER_07:But the studio album dropped in 88. Well, of course, you know the song came out before the album came out.
SPEAKER_03:It probably seven. Yeah, 87. I remember the album cover. The album cover, it was black and white. It had him, TJ Swan, and they had the Coca-Cola shirts, and they was jumping. That I still got the album.
SPEAKER_00:Was the vapors on that album too?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. I think so. Like that song too. That's my joint. Oh boy. Woo-sa. You definitely fucked me. Alright, who's next? Is it my turn? Alright. I got one. It's another hardcore one. And yeah, we like it raw.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, we like it raw.
SPEAKER_03:This MOP. 1994.
SPEAKER_07:Didn't they put this on the Sunset Park soundtrack? Yep. Exactly.
SPEAKER_03:Um the album also, it was to the death. M O P mobbed Um, not Mobb D. MOP. Stands for Mash Out Posse. Yeah, Mash Out Posse. Um, that's that was that was a that was a song. Like that's when fighting in parties and stuff was going on. Like it was a cutting, or something going on. Somebody got robbed to this song. Like, there was no happy dancing to the song. Like if they played this in a party or a club, it wasn't a time to like, you know, be either put your back to the wall or you went and got that person you was looking for.
SPEAKER_06:Oh shit. Put your back to the wall.
SPEAKER_03:Put your back to the wall and look and see where whoever the problem you had with M O Put old days.
SPEAKER_06:Nash out Posse.
SPEAKER_03:It was so simple. Who's your favorite? Cheryl, who's your favorite? Um is it is it Billy Dan's or Lil Fame?
SPEAKER_00:Lil Fame.
SPEAKER_03:I think so too. I think that might be mine too. Just that he used to talk with that that super list. But Billy Dan, he de he definitely showed up on some of it. Yeah. This is the second Second uh video ever seen with guns. Like BDP had guns in one of their videos, but it was always blurred out.
SPEAKER_07:This one, they they didn't blur these out. I'm trying to think, was that my philosophy?
SPEAKER_03:Right?
SPEAKER_07:At a tech or something like that. That was my philosophy.
SPEAKER_03:That's what it was.
SPEAKER_07:It might have been.
SPEAKER_03:You're a philosopher?
SPEAKER_07:Yes. Might have been. Because you know, he had uh he was on the the album cover.
SPEAKER_03:With with the gun like that. Like Malcolm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Alright, who next?
SPEAKER_00:It's my turn.
SPEAKER_03:Set rope poison.
SPEAKER_00:This song right here, I can remember going to the studio. I couldn't wait. I used to be on a Friday night show with my homeboy Mark Ellion. And we would do freestyles. And this beat right here.
SPEAKER_03:Wait, so you can freestyle?
SPEAKER_00:Sort of kind of.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, wow.
SPEAKER_00:It was back in the day.
SPEAKER_03:But all right, so back in the day, freestyle was different. It was writing freestyle, right?
SPEAKER_00:Yes.
SPEAKER_03:But you could do that?
SPEAKER_00:I I would write, I would have my song already, all my you know, my hot 16, and then he would put on a beat, and I just float to whatever beat he put on.
SPEAKER_02:Word.
SPEAKER_00:So when this came out, everybody wanted to do their um part off of this.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So this Mad Ism channel live. There's the beat right here.
SPEAKER_07:Yes, sir.
SPEAKER_00:You have to, when you get on this, you got to bring some heat.
SPEAKER_07:Yes, sir.
SPEAKER_00:All the dudes was in the studio. Everybody wanted the freestyle for this.
unknown:What we do with spark mags?
SPEAKER_03:You got something for it?
SPEAKER_00:Mm-hmm. You was not putting me on the spot.
SPEAKER_03:You sure I can find the instrumental real quick while we're I'm good.
SPEAKER_00:I'm good. I'm good. I just want to hear it.
SPEAKER_03:I'm good. Whose show was that? Was that Booterat show?
SPEAKER_00:That was Mark Ellevinson's show. Friday nights.
SPEAKER_03:He had his own show?
SPEAKER_00:Yes.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, word.
SPEAKER_00:It was like 10 to 12.
SPEAKER_03:Word.
SPEAKER_00:And I couldn't wait for Friday nights.
SPEAKER_03:How old were you at that time?
SPEAKER_00:I was probably 18, 19. Oh, okay. 18, 19, 20.
SPEAKER_03:Oh. Yeah. Yeah. I knew it was a reasonable.
SPEAKER_00:I shocked them all when because nobody knew that I could rhyme. And just one day, me and my homeboy was just kicking it. And I was like, yeah, I can rhyme. Yeah. A word. It just started from there. He told Mark about me, and Mark was like, he wanted to hear me, and he heard me, and I guess he liked it.
SPEAKER_03:And I know what I'm gonna do one day.
SPEAKER_00:What you gonna do?
SPEAKER_03:One of these days while we going through a uh a music thing, I'm gonna click on one of your songs on here. I got some joints. Yeah. I'm gonna have I'm gonna have to I'm gonna surprise you with it too. I ain't gonna say, all right, we're getting ready for your song. I'm gonna it's gonna just play it. You gonna think some uh slick rick is coming on? It's gonna be you.
SPEAKER_00:It's gonna be me. Those are good times. Those good times. Music brings people together, I'm telling you.
SPEAKER_03:That's dope.
SPEAKER_00:And I was the only girl, I was the only girl with a whole bunch of niggas.
SPEAKER_03:So that's dope. That's dope. You remember any of the ones that were you up there with you?
SPEAKER_00:Who?
SPEAKER_03:Are they in the same area they're still in the same area?
SPEAKER_00:Buddha, Malik, Malik Shabazz, um, my homeboy Mo, my homeboy Jibree. It was a lot of people. It was a lot of niggas.
SPEAKER_03:So now they need to listen to the episode for this.
SPEAKER_00:They need to? Okay, I'll tell them.
SPEAKER_03:You had to send it to them. I'll tell them. All right, um Is it is it my turn? No, it's it's my turn. It's Jones, huh?
SPEAKER_07:Yeah. We're gonna go.
SPEAKER_03:Uh we got so many classics up here.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, like I'm I told you I was going straight old school. I'm mad at this one. These are the songs that shape my childhood. These songs made help me become a man. They helped me become a man. Like the preachings of these songs, like three times dope.
SPEAKER_03:There we go.
SPEAKER_07:Funky dividends, right? Man, that's believable. Greatest man alive put me on game, and I stick by these words till this day. Michelle, goddamn, they like, come on.
SPEAKER_00:It's a third dress this week. I was with when I was with Busy B, I had it all.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah. Like, man, and the craziest part about this song is that half the generation from today, they probably never heard it. But these women, this is how they portray themselves on social media. Like, if you can't do X, Y, and Z for me, what are you doing with it? You know what I'm saying? Like, man, come on, man. And if I know it's gonna be like this, I wouldn't have stepped to you from the junk. Yeah, I would have just gone on about my business. That's but like this beat. It's just, I don't know if it reminded me of something my dad used to listen to or something.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, this is a sample.
SPEAKER_07:It's a sound. I don't know if it's uh I think it's Betty Wright. Could be. I think it's the Betty Wright. It could be. I think it is. But then after this, Diddy took it and did the total remix to it. Yep. So this beat is just gonna always resonate with me because anytime I hear the beat, I think about the greatest man alive.
SPEAKER_03:I think I I I don't know if I like their style that really drew me to them.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Or was it um what's the other song they had?
SPEAKER_07:Um Greatest Man Alive.
SPEAKER_03:Probably Greatest Man Alive. It probably is greatest man.
SPEAKER_07:They had a funky beat to it too.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it was more up tempo. Yeah, it was probably greatest man alive.
SPEAKER_00:Probably because they was kind of different. Different at that time. Yeah, they were they were flexible.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, they were. EST is the unusual fellow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but like that's I remember watching that video on TV in the 80s. Yeah, yeah. I remember seeing the video.
SPEAKER_00:They were sitting on the couch, yeah.
SPEAKER_07:Like I remember that. So you know, like nostalgia at its best. Like, man, and and now when I hear it, I go down a rabbit hole and I'm like, damn, I was seven years old watching Rap City. My sister was running around with all her friends, like, man, this the good old days.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I didn't know they were from Philly, yeah, until like I got older. Back then, you know, it was just a guy with a gumby.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, he had a gumby. I got cousins from Philly. So when I've, you know, when they used to come down every summer, yeah. It's like, man, I know them dudes, you know. Like one of my cousins actually was classmates with Will Smith.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, worried, right?
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, he died in 2000. But yeah, he went over Brooke. Oh, worried. Yeah, with Will. Yeah. Yeah, man. So, but Philly, like, they don't get enough credit for they, you know. Well, you know what? They don't get enough credit. They don't get enough credit.
SPEAKER_03:They like three times, though. Okay, they put out maybe two or three albums. All the songs wasn't bangers, but they did have a style. Yeah, they had a style. They had their own. Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:Everybody back then had their own style. Nobody sounded the like.
SPEAKER_03:Like, yeah. I kind of think him and had to be Bobby Brown was the only ones to freak the Gumby the right way. Like, he the way his joint was, it was it was different. Yeah. I can't think of nobody else that really had gumbies back then.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, them about only two.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, he might, he had the cuts, and I think he had he it was something about it. Yeah. They would fly, they would fly.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, man. Shout out the three times dope.
SPEAKER_03:Three times dope. Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_07:Greatest man alive. I think that was what, 88?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Possibly 88. Did the dummy move. Yeah, on streaming platforms. I don't think they have a date. Started asking for my dividends. All right. It's time. I got one here. This is uh I I don't know. I think this is 1992. It's from Jersey.
SPEAKER_00:Guess what? I had this on my list and I scratched it off. I had a whole lot of them and I kind of went on down.
SPEAKER_07:Tonight's the night.
SPEAKER_03:Tonight's the night by Red Man.
SPEAKER_00:Get off that punk stuff.
SPEAKER_03:What's the album is the name? This right here. This one starts off.
SPEAKER_06:I walk them down the street with the black tech now by the waistline. Ticking the hype shit.
unknown:Another good.
SPEAKER_03:All right. That right there, we all three of us just danced. Like it was the first time we heard the song.
SPEAKER_07:That's Red Man, yo. Like, he still don't get his credit. He don't. He don't. Do not get his credit. Shout out to Yoshi for calling me and telling me that, bringing it to my attention. Like, Red Man just don't get his credit.
SPEAKER_03:And he called me too and told me the same thing.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah. Yeah. He did. He don't. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:He called me and told me.
SPEAKER_07:He said he forgot a song. He said I left off a song off my list last week. But man, they don't give Red Man the credit. It was Red Man Buster Ron. He called me yesterday. The goodness. He's like, man, it came on while I was in the gym. Yeah. He called me yesterday. Yeah. I'm like, man, I was like, you know what? I said, Nats off the docks, the name album. One of the toughest albums in the early 2000s.
SPEAKER_00:Redman was different, too. Yes, he was. He brought a different type of style.
SPEAKER_07:He was. Yes.
SPEAKER_00:And he had some great videos. He had good videos.
SPEAKER_07:He's a hell of an artist.
SPEAKER_00:I'll never forget the video for I'll be that.
SPEAKER_07:Oh, God.
SPEAKER_00:When the girl riding with the bike and she hit the car.
SPEAKER_07:I love that.
SPEAKER_03:That's on social media now.
SPEAKER_07:Like I just seen it pop up yesterday. Yeah. Shout out to Red Man.
SPEAKER_03:Matter of fact, Red Man had Tonight's Tonight. Tonight's Tonight, he had the scene with the guns. You know, when I'm a teenager, I was just like I am now about guns.
SPEAKER_00:Fascinated.
SPEAKER_03:They had the 357s and the 44s, and Tonight's Tonight. And me and my niggas ain't playing. And they show the guns and stuff like that. Then they started bleeping it out and blurring it out.
SPEAKER_07:MTV did it first.
SPEAKER_03:This album right here, it had I like the Psycho Ward. Dr. Trevor's. Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:You know, they had that on there. All his skits is always fire. Superman Lover. Superman Lover. That's a series. He needs to do a TV series on the video. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Time for some action.
SPEAKER_07:I didn't want to put that because it was so big.
SPEAKER_03:Everybody, I I I swore everybody, I really thought you were going to pull it out, Cheryl.
SPEAKER_00:You thought so?
SPEAKER_03:Time for some action?
SPEAKER_00:But no, that didn't make my list, but tonight's the night then.
SPEAKER_03:Time for some action. The reason I didn't pick it because it was a super sample from Cyphers Hill. And I put Cyphers Hill on my honorable mention. But um, yeah, Tonight's The Night, Red Man, 1992, What's the Album? What's the album is the name?
SPEAKER_00:Was that the Red Cassette? Which one was the Red Cassette? There is a Dark Sork Side. Okay.
SPEAKER_03:There is a Dark Side. That was the joint. And um I don't know where I seen it. No, Keith Murray told me. Keith Murray told me that Red Man said he don't want to perform any songs from There is a Dark Side anymore.
SPEAKER_07:Why? Because of where he was at in his life? He said, exactly. He said that his. That was kind of it was it was a dark-ass album. It was dark.
SPEAKER_03:He said, we don't want to perform any of those songs. It was dark.
SPEAKER_00:So I don't blame him.
SPEAKER_03:It was dark. Which is crazy. Because they had some bangers on that. Yes, it did.
SPEAKER_07:Jesus Christ.
SPEAKER_03:Yes, bangers. All of Red Man's albums.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Every single Red Man album you're gonna get.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, he's not gonna disappoint you. Muddy Waters is a cover-to-cover absolutely. That might be the best one. Greatest. I'm talking about great. I'm talking about put it in, don't touch it. They said 1920 songs of pure hip hop. Is that the one that saved Def Jam? Yeah, absolutely. It might have been.
SPEAKER_03:I think they said Muddy Waters is what brought Def Jam back. Def Jam was over.
SPEAKER_07:96.
SPEAKER_03:They said it was over. And they put that out. They end up coming back. They end up coming back.
SPEAKER_07:Muddy Waters and Doc's the Name are my two absolute favorite albums by Red Man.
SPEAKER_03:What was the first one?
SPEAKER_00:Shout out to Red Man. I like all of them.
SPEAKER_07:I mean, but I was I was like I was younger. So when I started driving, like Muddy Waters was one of the first albums I listened to in my car.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:You know what I'm saying? I had my license now. I can drive past eight o'clock. I was smoking. Me and my homeboy ride around smoking to that shit, man. Whatever, man. Oh man.
SPEAKER_03:Whatever, man. Yeah, whatever, man. Yo. All right, who we at?
SPEAKER_00:It's my turn.
SPEAKER_03:Share with poison.
SPEAKER_00:I like this beat. When I think of it, I don't know. I just want to like ride in my car. I ain't got no um speakers in my car.
SPEAKER_03:You got rims on it though?
SPEAKER_00:I ain't got no speakers, though. I need some speakers to knock this. When you hear this.
SPEAKER_07:Is this Master Ace? Get the fuck out of here. I'm going home.
SPEAKER_06:God damn it.
SPEAKER_07:I'm going home.
SPEAKER_00:Don't leave, don't leave.
SPEAKER_07:Oh my God. Are you kidding me? Cheryl, what you know by this, man?
SPEAKER_00:What's the scientific echo?
SPEAKER_03:Oh my god. Hey man, she surprised me every show.
SPEAKER_07:My sister used to love Master Ace, man.
SPEAKER_03:So wait, let me. They had another version of this.
SPEAKER_00:It's called Jeep Ass Nigga.
SPEAKER_03:That's what it was, right?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. That was the first one. He remade it. Right. I like this beat better. For real? Yeah, this is the better beat.
SPEAKER_07:Is that sitting on Chrome? No. It's not sitting on Chrome?
SPEAKER_03:Um, the album is. Yeah, Sitting on Chrome.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, okay. Yeah.
unknown:Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:It's called Bone the Roll. That's what I got.
SPEAKER_07:Bone the Roll, yeah. So maybe he did it and added it to the Sitting on Chrome album. That's what I'm thinking it happened. Cause my sister used to love Mast Days. That's why when that shit came on, I was like, oh my God.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:Oh, you took me. That's a banger. It's probably every week.
SPEAKER_00:That's a banger.
SPEAKER_07:She got me just now. She got me.
SPEAKER_00:I'm not your average chick chick. I'm not your average chick.
SPEAKER_07:You're absolutely not. That that is that solidified just now. I told her there's a reason we put the show together. You got my, I don't know what to say.
SPEAKER_03:So wait, I think when she really proved it to me is when she knew about this group that I think only me and my cousin paid attention to. These guys were dancers first, but then they end up making a song. And it was Ziggy.
SPEAKER_00:Ziggy.
SPEAKER_03:You ever heard of a group Ziggy?
SPEAKER_07:Never heard that before. She knew it.
SPEAKER_00:I'm shocked you don't know.
SPEAKER_07:I'm surprised you don't know too. If I heard it, I just don't know the name.
SPEAKER_00:Let me say that.
SPEAKER_07:Jeez, uh, that Master A's just took me out of it.
SPEAKER_00:That is my song.
SPEAKER_07:I remember I remember my sister coming home from college, listening to Master A's. Like the INC ride.
SPEAKER_00:Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_07:Sitting on Chrome. Like she used to love Master A's.
SPEAKER_00:Your sister is a little bit more. Yes, she is.
SPEAKER_07:Yes, she is. I'm telling you, I that's where I get it from. I get it from her. She used to put me on all that good stuff. That's crazy. Oh my God.
SPEAKER_00:Music back then was different. Master Ace.
SPEAKER_07:Master Ace.
SPEAKER_03:Master Ace. That was on the album Sitting on Chrome 1995. I think it was out before that, though, right? I think I just talked about it. 95?
SPEAKER_07:I just did the re the reunion on that a couple months ago. Oh, Master Ace? Yeah. That's my time. That's my era. Like music was the greatest thing. The greatest, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Then we just say that. We said that what? Last episode?
SPEAKER_07:It was the greatest, man. 94 through 95. Yeah. 94 through 95. The golden years. Yeah. The golden years.
SPEAKER_03:All right.
SPEAKER_07:Who next? I'ma go ahead and I'ma go ahead and uh I'm going to just this this one's real simple. Um, nothing flashy about it. Uh the guy Nas.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. My baby daddy. What's up, baby daddy?
SPEAKER_07:The message off of it was written album. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:I don't know if it was as much as what he was saying in the song that made the beat that much harder to me, but like I said, this beat used to come on and like it was like time was stopped. Move.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:You know? And man, it was a moment in time. Even when they had like the the if I rule the world video, this was the intro to the something. You know what I'm saying? But then I I went and got the album and I'm in the car and I'm listening to it. And I'm listening to what he's saying. And I'm like, this dude is really, really different. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's when I really became more conscious of conscious rappers.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah. Then I went back to brand newbie and you know, like I started, I got more conscious. Yeah. After listening to this. Because he cared about us.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_07:B Love, we have the argument about black girl loss all the time, right? Because like black girl loss is still relevant.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:Today. And they gon' like Nas is just that type of artist to me. And this beat, I know it was a sample, but crossed them 12s in that little hatchback I had. Man.
SPEAKER_00:It was a sample, but you wouldn't, if you knew what song it's from, I don't know the name of the song, but if you listen to that song, you would never think that this would come from it. Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think it was some some white shit.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. It's a white song.
SPEAKER_07:He, uh, Celine Remy, yeah, you his producer, he was lazy knobs with all kinds of shit, man. But this beat is just, it's legendary to me because like I like, I like the slow, the slow shit, you know, with the deep bass. But him giving the.
SPEAKER_00:You like to ride out. This is something you could ride out, too.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, yeah. I cocked that baby nine, the nigga gravy's mind. Clink. What was he thinking on my corner with his baby time? Yeah, man. Shout out to Nas, my cousin, as the easy set. He said, Oh, you related all the Joneses. So, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:All right, who's it? It's on you. It's my turn. Okay. See, I'm gonna have to skip over my um Boogie Down production. And uh, I think I'm gonna go way back on this one. Oh. I think I'm gonna go back a little bit further. This right here, hearing this as a kid, like I was real little hearing this, you know, like my uncles was a DJ, my uncle was a DJ, my older brothers, you know. Being around them, them hearing this. This song came out, it says 88. Ultra magnetic MCs.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, you ain't way back.
SPEAKER_07:Yo, hey man, listen. Music was just different.
unknown:Say what?
SPEAKER_07:People cared about the art.
SPEAKER_00:You know why? Because it was original back then. Yeah, they was doing their own beats. It was not a remake or nothing. They was doing their own thing. Yeah, it just made it different.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know what made them come up with a beat like that, though.
SPEAKER_07:That's one of the coldest. That was 1988. And that's the type of shit I like in the beat that they're the little you know, like shit like that, just make it.
SPEAKER_00:I think you could be a producer.
SPEAKER_03:I probably could. You could probably make some beats. I probably could. You would kill if you was a sample producer.
SPEAKER_00:Because you know all the samples and stuff.
SPEAKER_03:Digging in crates, you're gonna be. Ultramagnetic MCs, they also had um an artist on there named Cool Keefe, uh-huh, which made the song like even it's it's one of those ones. You know, you waited for that certain verse, yeah. His was that verse, and he's still dropping albums right now. He's in the rim of uh MF Doom, and he got a certain following that like Kool King from he was shout out to the show. That was mine. That was mine. Ultimately, yeah, that was. And the name of the oh, I'm sorry, the name of the song was uh Ego Tripping. Ego Tripping. Yeah, Ego Tripping. They still play that on uh Rock the Bills a lot.
SPEAKER_07:Oh, for real?
SPEAKER_03:That that that's a classic beat.
SPEAKER_07:That's why when it came in, I was like, ah, damn it.
SPEAKER_06:I heard it the last couple weeks. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Where we at? It's my turn. It's your turn. Go ahead. I I know I know this. We're gonna bring this up a little bit. I see. Um, when I first heard this, I just was like, what the is that? And it's Jeezy. Seen it all. This beat right here is crazy.
SPEAKER_07:You ain't never lied.
SPEAKER_00:Listen to that.
SPEAKER_07:You're right. You don't got flow.
SPEAKER_00:Now you can ride out to this.
SPEAKER_07:Yes, you can. I remember when this shit came out. I went to the store and brought, I was still buying CDs at this time. And man, shit. Wait, that beat dropped. That shit came on. I was like, what the fuck? Jay-Z got going on. Cause I'm the realest living miss. Y'all know it. That beat.
SPEAKER_03:That nigga can't drive. That's crazy right now. You picked the bang on that shit.
SPEAKER_00:Did he put Jay-Z on there?
SPEAKER_07:Oh, Jay-Z's on there.
SPEAKER_00:And you gonna add Jay-Z on there?
SPEAKER_07:He went absolutely, but see, this was, you know, like Jay hadn't been rapping that drug rap for a long time. Yeah. And when he got on there speaking that drug shit, oh my god. What was it?
SPEAKER_03:Was it 97th State Street he was talking about?
SPEAKER_07:Yeah.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. I love that. I love that beat.
SPEAKER_07:That's a honor. You you got me with that one. I never expected that one. I never expected that one.
SPEAKER_03:All right, Jones. You got you got an honorable mention. You want you wanna pick from that?
SPEAKER_07:Did you did you uh pull it up? I got it. I'ma I'm gonna I'ma deviate from that. I got it. I got uh I'ma go with uh yeah, we're gonna do niggas done started song. We're gonna go with this one. This will be the first one, and my next one will be my last one. But this deep in '98 was unbelievable. The whole album. Sample Marvin Gay. That's why I love some.
SPEAKER_00:I think you love anything that sample Marvin Gay. Marvin Gay is like Marvin Gay got some good ones.
SPEAKER_07:He's like my distant uncle or some shit. Like. Oh, I love Marvin. No, not for real, but my mom was a Marvin Gay fanatic.
SPEAKER_03:Oh word.
SPEAKER_07:Oh my gosh. I'm talking about that's all I used to hear when I was growing up. My mama loved Marvin Gay.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, he got some, he got some joints. Marvin got some joints.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, and he played most of the music on his joints. Like Marvin was just, he's just a different musical talent. Marvin Gay and Prince like my two favorite.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, them dudes was just musically different.
SPEAKER_03:So when we do the RB, you know we gotta run it back. Yeah. Do the RB one too.
SPEAKER_07:But this uh this beat as far as posse cuts go, with them niggas on it rapping, you had bass, Jadakus, Styles P, Sheik Luoch, and DMX. They went absolute, everybody snapped on that shit.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, you're right.
SPEAKER_07:Everybody did. You're right about that. And the beat didn't help it. Like I don't know. I think did Swiss do that beat?
SPEAKER_02:I think Swiss might have that beat.
SPEAKER_07:He probably had to. I think he did. I think he did because he redid it on one of his albums that came out a couple years ago. He reused his beat on an album he did. But Swiss, he engineered the shit out of this one.
SPEAKER_03:I can't pull it up on you.
SPEAKER_07:He engineered. I got the booklet at the house. I'll pull it up. Yeah, open that booklet. Open it up. Check my booklet when I get to the crib. Yeah. All right. Shout out to uh the Rough Riders.
SPEAKER_00:That used to be exciting. Getting a C and opening up the um booklet.
SPEAKER_07:Before I even pull out the parking lot, I'm talking about as soon as I put soon as I get in the parking lot, rip that joint open, put it in the CD player, crank the car up, sit there. And I'm reading the book.
SPEAKER_00:And don't let them have the lyrics in there. Oh god, Naga. Oh, you got the lyrics in there too?
SPEAKER_07:Naga. I can't wait to get home. I'm gonna know all the songs.
SPEAKER_00:I'ma know everything. Good times.
SPEAKER_03:Good times. That was from uh DMX album It's dark and hell is hot. Yeah, 1998.
SPEAKER_07:Yep.
SPEAKER_03:Um, is it my turn? It's your turn. All right. I'm good. I'm gonna use this last one. I see nobody picked it. I don't know why not. But that's a good thing because I get it.
SPEAKER_00:Let me see. Was it on my list?
SPEAKER_03:Here we go. Um, this is from 1999. A small album called I tried Explosive.
SPEAKER_07:I I went through my I went through my. I said, is it something from Dr. Dre I want to use? Is it anything? I was like, nah, I'm gonna lead Dre out of it. Dr.
SPEAKER_03:Drew 2001, the name of the song is Explosive.
SPEAKER_00:Guess what? It was on my big list.
SPEAKER_07:It was all but niggas drinking cognac. You hear that? This shit is just and it's you can ride out and smoke to this one. It's little shit like that.
SPEAKER_03:That's why I like it.
SPEAKER_07:That's why this shit just makes the shit so fucking hard.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that's why I like it. Oh my god. Yep, that was my good one.
SPEAKER_07:Oh, that was a great one.
SPEAKER_03:That was my last one. I'm not even gonna name no more. That's gonna be my honorable man.
SPEAKER_07:Look at him.
SPEAKER_06:He's gonna go out like that.
SPEAKER_03:I'm gonna close my segment with that. I'll let y'all.
SPEAKER_07:What you got? You got one more.
SPEAKER_00:I got one more. Let me go. Let me go. I'm gonna go.
SPEAKER_07:I added some since we started.
SPEAKER_00:Nah, you can't add that. We have to do another show.
SPEAKER_07:I only added one. Well, I added two, but I'ma I'ma um this honorable mention piggybacking off of one of yours. Okay. All right, Cheryl. What you do?
SPEAKER_00:Okay, I'm gonna go and I'm gonna let him go. Okay. My honorable mention.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, oh, I see what it is.
SPEAKER_00:Dipset anthem.
SPEAKER_03:Alright. That's a hard one.
SPEAKER_06:This beat right here is your boy. So everybody says nothing. Everybody do the rock. Yeah, everybody do the rock. That's all you can do. Oh God. 2003. What a time to be alive. What a time.
SPEAKER_07:Today's a new day.
SPEAKER_06:That's a classic.
SPEAKER_07:Yes, it is.
SPEAKER_03:See, they're not respecting jewels for stuff like that.
SPEAKER_07:They not. And that's sad.
SPEAKER_03:That right there.
SPEAKER_07:Them boys was a movement. They was. It was a whole movement. Yeah. It was a movement. Yeah. I'm telling you. They was a movement.
SPEAKER_03:The reason niggas wear pink.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah. Yeah, they was a whole movement.
SPEAKER_03:Exactly. Dirty pink, dark pink. I'm telling you, you go in those. Baby pink. You go in those what's what's those stores? Those detail. Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:All the pink t-shirts is in there.
SPEAKER_07:Like, and it's because of Cam now. Yep.
SPEAKER_03:The bandana.
SPEAKER_00:Cam came through with the whole pink fur and everything. You doing it like that, Cam?
SPEAKER_03:The bandanas all over. They started rocking the flag bandana again because Drew Al Santana.
SPEAKER_07:Yep.
SPEAKER_03:Crazy era. All right. Who's next? Um, it's you, huh?
SPEAKER_07:I'm gonna go ahead and give you this last one. It ain't the one I had on my list.
SPEAKER_03:I know. That's what I'm gonna be trying to pull up.
SPEAKER_07:I'm gonna go uh Souls of Mischief.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_07:We'll go 93 to Infinity.
SPEAKER_03:I know what you're talking about.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, we'll do that. That's one of them. Like, that's one of them that got that. That's like what really turned me on to like the West Coast sound. Oh, yeah. That's when I really realized that the West Coast had a sound.
SPEAKER_03:Sound, yeah. Um, what what um was that? BET used to play this. That's the only reason I caught window. Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:But they had that like that that wine, that whisker. We meant my sister called the West Coast wine. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:What do you what do you say? Got the seven digits.
SPEAKER_07:Got the seven digits, call it fridget. A man's a midget. Yeah, I can dig it.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, so's a mischief.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, we used to kill this back in the day. Yeah, man.
SPEAKER_03:I think because I think what's called really pumped that one up, BT. Yeah, they did. Because BT played that on Twitter.
SPEAKER_07:They played the shit out of that. Rap City kept it. I'm tempted. It was on the top 10. Yep. All that. Like they kept it in rotation. And that was in 1993. 1993.
SPEAKER_03:1993. And the album is Soldier Mischief 93 to infinity. Yep, yep. All right. Miss Poison. Is your is your honorable mention? Oh, it's I already did my.
SPEAKER_00:I got one more though.
SPEAKER_03:You do got one more.
SPEAKER_00:I got one more.
SPEAKER_03:Go ahead. Give me that one, Ball.
SPEAKER_00:I don't know why, but I really do like this beat. Um, it's still tipping.
SPEAKER_07:Ooh.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, okay. Still tipping on food.
SPEAKER_07:To the Sasa Texas, baby.
SPEAKER_00:I went down to Tex.
SPEAKER_07:Down to Texas. She get hit. Mike Jones.
SPEAKER_00:Mike Jones. Slim thug. Paul Wall.
SPEAKER_07:Paul Wall.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Paul.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. So you went down south for me. I went down south.
SPEAKER_07:Chopping screw. That's a hard beat. Yes, it is.
SPEAKER_03:That's a hard beat. I was I was listening to screwed up music for a quick second.
SPEAKER_04:Rap and phone calls. Yeah, that's hard. That's hard. Michael Watts. Yeah, that's hard.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I can dig that one. I can dig that one. All right. Well, the show ain't over yet. We might as well get into it. September 12th, 1995. Coogie Rap put out an album called 456. That's uh 30 years ago. Yes. And that is a classic. Yes, it is. That's um I didn't I didn't bring the hardcover here today, but usually I bring the hardcover and we'll open it up and look at the inside and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_00:But uh 456 is a good one.
SPEAKER_03:I I do have to say this. I think G-Rap's second album, I really couldn't get into it at the time.
SPEAKER_07:Rose Ridges?
SPEAKER_03:No, not Rose Ridges.
SPEAKER_07:Wanted Dead Alive.
SPEAKER_03:Wanted Dead Alive. Because it was so different. And then at the time, I think it was a lot of problems with getting stuff cleared so that the tape will have a totally different song from if you had a record. Or you know, like you had to you had to hear the different stuff other places. Yeah. And uh that might have turned me off uh G-Rap for a minute there. But um Road to Riches, rated R, rated X, that was my favorite song for Rated X. Yeah. I wasn't supposed to be listening to it, but I knew every single word. Yeah. Talk like sex. That's what it is. Yeah. Talk like sex. That's it. Yep. So um I guess that's it. Um, we got movie flashback. You got a movie?
SPEAKER_00:I do got a movie, but before we get into that, I would just want to give a shout out to my homeboy, Nas. Nas is doing big things in Queens. Yeah, I meant to mention he got the green light to build the casino in Queens. Queens, I told you, big Queens. Queens Queens. Big Queens stand up.
SPEAKER_07:Queens get the money.
SPEAKER_00:So I just want to congratulate him on that. He's doing big things. That's my baby daddy. I forgot about that. I forgot about that.
SPEAKER_07:I forgot about that. Yeah, I'm proud of my man. Yeah, man.
SPEAKER_03:You got anything else? I forgot about that. That's big thing, man.
SPEAKER_07:That's that's super big, man. Yeah, yeah. Especially after they just denied Jay a little bit.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, they denied Jay.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah. I wonder what kind of politics was behind that.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know.
SPEAKER_07:Politics is usual.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, something something might re something might happen behind that.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, politics is usual.
SPEAKER_03:Jay-Z might happen to drop one of those sneak discs.
SPEAKER_07:Oh, you know. I heard he had an album in the works.
SPEAKER_03:I heard it too. Just yesterday, I think it was. Or day before yesterday, I heard it was.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, I heard he had an album in the mix, man.
SPEAKER_03:Is he in or out? Is he gonna be in or out?
SPEAKER_07:Let him be in.
SPEAKER_00:He can do what he wanted.
SPEAKER_07:We are the only culture that talks shit about old niggas doing this shit, man.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, you're right about that.
SPEAKER_07:You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Ozzy Osborne died.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, doing it, yeah. I heard somebody else saying that, yeah.
SPEAKER_07:We shouldn't be like that. You just gotta, it's all about adapting to your time.
SPEAKER_00:I don't care that he's old, but it's if he's gonna do music, do music. Don't be like, oh, I'm retiring.
SPEAKER_07:But but but see, the shit is and then you come back. This year probably has been the greatest year for old niggas. Like all a lot of tall niggas. Yeah, a lot of old niggas done drop some new music like Ghost Ray. We be needing clips, ain't even that old, but they nostalgia is as hell because Malice wasn't rapping. Yeah, but their album is flame.
SPEAKER_00:It is that is a good album. It is.
SPEAKER_07:I like Rayquan joint. I like I like Ghostface shit too. Yeah. You know, but I gotta listen to Kwame. I meant to use him. I had a Did you listen to it? I haven't yet. What? But I got a beat. The only you shit was one of my favorite beats of all time, too. Oh, yeah. And the rhythm. The rhythm. Oh, my God. You know what?
SPEAKER_00:Kwame was different too. When he came out, he brung something different to the ground.
SPEAKER_07:He said Big killed them off.
SPEAKER_03:He did with that pop. With the polka dot shit. Yeah. That shit played out like Kwame and the fucking polka dots.
SPEAKER_07:Mad shit. But see, the shit, like, the shit we let people influence us. Uh to do, yeah. Just because Big said that it was like Kwame was with it. Because Kwame had joints. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:It's like everything he put out was dope. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, man. But I appreciate. Listen, man. This is like the greatest hour and a half. Just let me know when you want me to come back.
SPEAKER_00:All the time. I had to come back for when we do our um RB.
SPEAKER_07:I get laughed at for this shit. Like I get so excited when I talk about old me.
SPEAKER_00:But you talk about it with the wrong people. Yeah. They don't appreciate it.
SPEAKER_07:It takes me there, man. You know what I'm saying, man? Oh my God. Like when L came on my show. B Love's like, yeah, you're gonna love this shit. Me and him just having like the dialogue. Just vibing, just vibe. Yeah, because we talk, we we love. I mean, but I I'm stuck in that shit. I try to get this new shit a chance.
SPEAKER_03:I just can't do it.
SPEAKER_01:I can't either.
SPEAKER_03:But you know what? The thing about me, I'm not stuck in it. But I'm like, I can still, this is out, this the this right here is the time for me to get it out. Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is my time. This is, and I'm glad y'all asked me because now I can go home and I can give, I can listen to uh Griselda them and you know, feel all right now. But I'm waiting on that mob deep shit to drop too.
SPEAKER_00:I'm waiting on it too.
SPEAKER_03:Everybody's everybody in there.
SPEAKER_00:As soon as I heard a piece of that first, I was like, I can't wait. The single's out. It's the sky.
SPEAKER_07:It sounds like havoc is still, it sound like prodigy is still living. Yeah. I'm talking about, oh my God.
SPEAKER_00:I'm I don't think they're gonna disappoint. I really think.
SPEAKER_07:I don't think so either. Because Alchemist's been on a run the last couple years. He's been running crazy.
SPEAKER_02:Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, but man, I appreciate y'all. No, man. No problem. You always welcome. Whenever y'all want me to come back, just let me know on a Tuesday or Wednesday.
SPEAKER_03:If you're around the corner, you and you finish. And just slide on through. Slide on through. Knock on the door. We over there.
SPEAKER_07:Listen, man. Oh, man. But yeah, um, I think I might listen to that fast life a hundred times on the way home today.
SPEAKER_03:No, you know what you gotta listen to? I'm gonna let you before you leave, I'm gonna let you hear a piece of that Kwame.
SPEAKER_07:Okay. That Kwame is hard.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. Um, I'm L just Once Upon a Time of Music. I'm L. Cheryl Poison. And and Jones is about to be like one of them Vlad people. He's up here all the time, you know. But um Jones, let him enjoy him. Let them know where they can catch you, man.
SPEAKER_07:Uh, every Tuesday on the Music Jones Podcast, all platforms. Um, you can contact me, JP Jones81 on Instagram, or the Music Jones Podcast page as well.
SPEAKER_00:Give them your email, give him your um email.
SPEAKER_07:Uh the musicjones podcast at gmail.com if you want to email me. You can email me topics if you want. If you listen to my show, anything you want to hear me talk about, anything you want to hear me go in depth about, I probably'll save it and come on this show and bring it to them because my young people on my show treat me like I'm an old dude.
SPEAKER_03:And uh Hey, don't listen to B, man.
SPEAKER_07:And and we're at the same age, but she's old.
SPEAKER_03:Don't listen to B.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah. But with him being the oldest sibling around his house, it was a little different because I had an older sister. So I was in tune with all the shit, man. And I love it, and I appreciate y'all for having me.
SPEAKER_00:Always and y'all can reach us at once upon a time and musicpodcast at Yahoo. Send us some joints.
SPEAKER_03:Yes, sir. Let us give us something to read. Yep, yeah. If you got a topic or um, you just want to say what's up, or give us your feedback on what we talked about. Or what we're doing, yeah. Yep, yep. And um, we out of here.
SPEAKER_00:We out.
SPEAKER_07:That was a great one. I got the end of the neck going nuts.