Once Upon A Time In Music

Timbs, Tapes & Timeless Beats

Once upon a time In Music Season 1 Episode 8

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The guys talk about hip-hop’s dopest beats with special guest Jones from The Music Jones Podcast—spanning Wu-Tang to Redman, BDP to Dipset, Jeezy to Souls of Mischief. Plus “Snack Time” nostalgia (Certs fruit, Big League Chew, Lifesavers Holes) and a quick “Movie Flashbacks” vibe. Tap in for memories, debates, and neck-snapping beats.


SPEAKER_07

Oh Lord. That was the last ticket I got, I think. Fucking with Cool G. What album was that? Back in 2000. No, I'm sorry, that was 05. Yeah, 05. Because it came out in 99. But I listened to that Cool G rap, that Roots of Eva album. The first time I ever heard Papoose. Yeah. Because he was on that uh the home sweet funeral home joint.

SPEAKER_02

I don't even know when that. I don't even know when that came out.

SPEAKER_07

It came out of either 98 or 99. It came out of one of them. Came out of 98 or 99. That was my shit.

SPEAKER_03

Shout out to Jones. If y'all didn't know, we was already recording. Oh shit. This is L. This is the music, Music Jones podcast tonight. No, um, what up, everybody? This is the Once Upon a Time and Music. I'm L.

SPEAKER_00

I'm Cheryl Poison.

SPEAKER_03

And we got a guest again. I see y'all see, I see y'all hears him. He's talking about that old boom back rap as uh B B Easy would say from the DJ Blaze uh radio show podcast. We got Jones from the Music Jones podcast.

SPEAKER_00

Welcome, welcome.

SPEAKER_05

What's going on, y'all? How's everything? Can you hear me? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

You can't hear at all? Uh well, I'm gonna get you, I'm gonna get you straight.

SPEAKER_07

Y'all keep on keep on uh but yeah, man. I'm gonna thank y'all for having me back on, man. I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, we enjoyed you last week.

SPEAKER_07

I really enjoyed it. Oh, I ain't gonna turn on. I'm tripping. Yep.

unknown

There we go.

SPEAKER_00

We're gonna have to come on your show one day, too.

SPEAKER_07

Oh, absolutely. That definitely needs to happen. So I can um we can return the favor. Yeah, we can drive be little be easy crazy with the boom bap conversations. Yeah, but I I thoroughly enjoy being on with y'all last week.

SPEAKER_03

Definitely. We enjoy having you, man. We we we had the the you know the the regular, you know, north versus south for a quick little second there. But you know, we we got a new show today. Yeah. Today's show is what is it, Cheryl?

SPEAKER_00

The dopest beats, in your opinion. In your opinion.

SPEAKER_03

Hip hop, hip-hop's dopest beats or hip-hop, our favorite beats in hip-hop. I know there's so many of them, but we only gonna go through like maybe five to seven of them.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, because I got I got a lot. I got a lot I could name.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, we all kind of got a uh a different a different amount. I mean, we all got like different ones, which is good. Yeah. Cause uh except that one. That one I thought um I was gonna be the only one to have it, but uh Jones got it.

SPEAKER_07

Oh, let's see.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that that that's that's a classic. But um, what else we got going? We got uh uh what we got snack time.

SPEAKER_00

Snack time.

SPEAKER_03

Movie flashbacks. It's a regular Thursday morning. If you listen to it on Thursdays, it's in the morning. Because that's you know, that's when everybody listened to it. Or Thursday evening. Um let's get into snack time, huh? Cheryl, what you what you um what you wish they still had or what I wish they had and discontinue.

SPEAKER_00

They don't have this, is certs. I used to get the little pack of certs. It was like assorted fruits, yeah, certs, and it had like a little bit of fruit in the middle, and they don't make those no more. You could get like regular certs like spearmint or peppermint, something like that, but they don't make the fruit ones. Yeah, that used to be my joint.

SPEAKER_03

You know what I remember? I remember the certs, holes. It was the the hole part, like yeah, they get rid of the good stuff. Yeah, they do. All right, I got one. This is from when you were a little lad. You was out running around. You you know, you thought you were grown. You if you played baseball or football, you know what this is. It's called Big League Chew.

SPEAKER_07

Yep. Absolutely. A shredded bubble gum that looked like chewing tobacco. Chewing tobacco.

SPEAKER_00

And you didn't have to play football or baseball because I used to eat that. You doing it too?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. You had it, you know, you put a big glob in your mouth and you spit and all that back.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, like you got tobacco. We did it. Whoa, oh God. Baseball is my first love, so we kept that in our pocket.

SPEAKER_03

It came in a little baggy, like, like a that you could resill it or fold it back down. And it rolled up in your back pocket. Yeah. Yeah, man. Um, that's mine. Jones, what you got? You got you, you got anything you wish?

SPEAKER_07

Mine would be the lifesaver's holes. The holes, right? I don't know if nobody remember, but they used to like sell just the the little piece.

SPEAKER_00

That's come from the middle part. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Like I used to love, I used to love joints. It came like in a little thing, kind of like Tic Tac.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

All right. Um, well, I mean, we could get into it since we got uh a good slew of uh songs. Who wanna go first? We'll let Cheryl go first.

SPEAKER_00

I'll go first. Ladies first. Ladies first. Okay, this song, this is like one of my favorite songs. It's like in my top five. I love this song from the first time I heard it. And it's from my boys, Rain Ghosts. Can it all be so simple? Riza killed this beat.

SPEAKER_03

1993.

SPEAKER_00

I'm really not into slow beats, but this beat, yeah, this is dope.

SPEAKER_03

Uh, this from the album uh Into the Wu-Tang 36 Chambers. I'm telling you, when this came out, when this album came out, Staten Island was in a frenzy. I'm from I'm from Staten Island slash Brooklyn. Everybody, you know, everybody's either or. But the city was going crazy. Yeah. To go to another borough and they were playing that loud in their cars, you knew it was gonna be some. Yeah. And that was it. I mean the woo did that. They did that. Man, I I wish we could go back because I remember. It was so simple. Man, you're right. I think I was in, what was I?

SPEAKER_07

I I I might have been like sixth grade, seventh grade. You probably was in the seventh. I was in the sixth. That's 93. Yeah, I was in the sixth.

SPEAKER_00

So I was a yeah, I was six or seven. And y'all was little.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I was in 11th grade.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, I was in the sixth grade.

SPEAKER_03

You were almost finished.

SPEAKER_00

93. I was almost finished.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I had.

SPEAKER_07

I was in the sixth grade.

SPEAKER_03

I had a whole lot more. I had four more to go. Four more years. So I was in, yeah, I was about seventh grade. Yeah, eighth grade. Yeah, so I remember, I think it was either Ghost's sister or Ghost's cousin went to my school. And she brought that white, it was protect your neck. She brought the the singles. They used to have the singles. And she started giving them out. I was like, yo, where you get that from? No, it's my brother. I think I think it's a it was a family member or something like that. Well, come to find out, ghosts ended up living around the corner from us. And we found out, like, oh, so you know, we were walking by, kind of looking in, you know, trying to see Mike spot on. One day we even, I think we even broke down and went and knocked on the door. Like, I was a little bit like.

SPEAKER_00

You can't take it no more. I got the meeting.

SPEAKER_03

You got the tape. You know, we looking for the tape. We looking for the tape. But um, I don't remember. I he didn't answer the door. Somebody else answered the door or whatever, but I ended up getting a tape from her. And I wonder who she I wonder who exactly that was. I gotta ask some other friends. But uh, I ended up getting that tape. It had met the man on one side and protect your neck on the other. I wish I had a copy of that. That single single, yeah. That white case, the white cardboard case single. Yeah, that was that was it.

SPEAKER_00

All right. The remix to this is pretty alright, too. Yeah, that had the um that did it have a different beat. It had a different beat.

SPEAKER_07

It did, right? And it was on uh purple tape.

SPEAKER_00

It was on a purple tape.

SPEAKER_07

Word. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_00

All right.

SPEAKER_07

Well, um all I remember was the that land, that land cruiser. Oh, yeah. That burgundy land cruiser and that snow beach snow beach pullover.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that was classic.

SPEAKER_07

I was like, damn, I want that. Yeah, couldn't get it though.

SPEAKER_03

I think that snow beach, that that's a classic, man. That's in hip hop, like it's stapled in there. Like it is. I I like the I like the video, but at the time I was looking for, yo, who we gonna see in it? Because you know, being in the area, you wanna see who's gonna be in it. And you know, that between that and the location, so we was like, oh, yo, they're gonna they're gonna film it in Stapleton, they gonna film it in Park Hill. They end up filming it, I think, over there by the Coliseum. I think that was, I think it was part by the Coliseum, and um, I think Bay Street also. So you know, you did kind of figure out, but yeah, you know, you want to see, yo, that's such and such in the video, but you know, it was a good time. It was a good time. Jones, what you got, man?

SPEAKER_07

My first one and most my this be this song is is just always gonna do something to me. BDP, the bridge is over. It was a battle going on in New York between Boogie Down Productions and the Juice Crew, and this shit set the South on fire. So they was feeling it down here too? Oh my god. I died like my sister is class of 92.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

So she's in high school, freshman in high school, eighth grade, when this shit dropped.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

So every weekend they had parties and shit. Uh-huh. But my pop used to DJ with the guy who used to DJ, he was like the hype man for the DJ.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

So all the parties and shit, after the parties, whatever he played, my sister would get the records from him and go make her a take.

SPEAKER_03

Get out of here.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, so every weekend this was a routine. When she brought that shit in the house, I was in my room playing my Nintendo. And she turned that shit on. I paused my game. I said, what the hell is that? I ain't supposed to be cursed. I'm about 78.

SPEAKER_06

You know, what the hell is that?

SPEAKER_07

I'm in the room, so I start playing, and she played it, and she played it, and she played it. And I was like, that is the toughest shit. I said, That's it.

SPEAKER_00

What is that?

SPEAKER_07

And ever since then, that shit has been embedded in my brain.

SPEAKER_00

And I'm from Queens, but you can't deny it. This shit. You can't, you can't deny it.

SPEAKER_07

This is the first rap song to have Jamaican patois on it.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you're right.

SPEAKER_07

He he added reggae to hip hop. This is like his first or second song.

SPEAKER_00

The bitch is over.

SPEAKER_07

This shit changed. Like, and I'm telling you, down south. Oh man, they love this shit, man.

SPEAKER_03

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_07

I I would never even thought that. Man, shit. They loved it down here, man. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03

This is off the album Criminal Minded, uh, Boogie Down Production.

SPEAKER_07

Rest in peace, Scott LaRock.

SPEAKER_03

19. Yeah, that was the first artist that I heard got killed. Yeah, like everybody was like, What? Um, 1987. Whew. The bridge is over. I was six years old. So if people don't know, the bridge is over. That was like a response to Queen's Bridge. The bridge. The bridge. Yeah. MC Shane. Yeah, MC Shane. Yep, yeah. And uh, that's a hard beat. And I'm mad because that's one of mine. So that was on my list.

SPEAKER_00

I was gonna put it on my list. I was gonna put it on. I was like, I'm gonna do something different. I'm gonna do something different.

SPEAKER_07

But you can't like it it's undeniable songs in hip hop. Like, I understand why y'all, y'all older than me, y'all from up there. Uh you know, got family. Like, I got family from up there too, but this shit, man. I'm sorry, I keep cursing.

SPEAKER_06

You can curse, you can curse.

SPEAKER_07

This song was just that. It was everything. Yeah. Like it was everything. This was my uncle shit. My uncle Luddish shit. The lyrics, taking shots, and then like it started. Like, they even did a whole album catered to that battle. Uh, the battle of rap supremacy. I don't know if you ever heard that or saw the album, but it was an album that came out where one song was Shan, one song was clear. Oh, word. Yeah, like they did it like that.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, word. I gotta I gotta go check that out.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, see if you can find it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

My uncle used to love this song. This is this is my uncle lived in Brooklyn, but would come to Staten Island to hang out with my brothers and stuff like that. Like people didn't people saw him so much, they thought it was from Staten Island. He had uh Delta 88 with the with the with the uh the Gucci bag hanging from the window. He had the the fluffy um tail the rabbit tail, the raccoon tail, yeah, a white one and tinted out windows, delta 88, dark blue with a system in it.

SPEAKER_07

And that was like that's that song go crazy on some.

SPEAKER_00

I was about to say it's probably knocking a collar.

SPEAKER_07

That's why I love it even more. Because as I got older, when I got my man, they was like, what are you listening to? Don't worry about it. You don't understand. It's a purpose behind it. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

All right, we're gonna get into mine. Mine isn't mine, is a little bit newer. Uh I think this was 1993. Ooh.

SPEAKER_00

From a little a little place called Queens. Big Queens. Put some respect on that.

SPEAKER_03

Onyx. Um, this is the album was back the fuck up. This is Shifty. And this beat right here, skating Ray Face. That beat, that beat right there.

SPEAKER_07

I mean, I'm telling you. Like, sir. That beat it.

SPEAKER_03

90 93. I was like a teenager. 93. I I was I was starting to feel myself a little bit. You know, going outside a little bit more. No, you know what? Going away from the block a little bit more. Yeah. The parties, you know, you know, it was you know, like house parties was it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

That's a good album. I used to love that album.

SPEAKER_03

This whole album. The whole album.

SPEAKER_00

I ain't gonna say I'm gonna say tape. I had the tape. Yeah that tape.

SPEAKER_03

Give me your give me your favorite song from it.

SPEAKER_00

I got a lot, but the one I listened to a lot was sucking the next nigga.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I think you was gonna say something crazy like that.

SPEAKER_07

I'm gonna go and throw your guns.

SPEAKER_03

Throw your guns with me. That one's good too. That was my, I think that was the first video that I seen guns in. Like unblurred out guns. That one and and um MOP's, how about some hardcore? Yeah. Those are the first. I think the Onyx ones, they was in like the salt hand, salt hills.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

In New York, you know, winter time, they gotta put the salt out. Yeah. They was in like they was on the hills of the salt. On the hills, anyway. Yeah. And that that video was crazy. They had Tech Nines and Mac 10s in the video.

SPEAKER_06

I was like, yeah, that I like that.

SPEAKER_03

That was it. It was so simple. Yeah, that was that's shifty. Um, that wasn't that was the B side of throw your guns in the air album. If you was a DJ, I DJed the time, so that was the flip side of it. With two bangers. I can't believe they put two bangers on it on it like that. All right, who next?

SPEAKER_07

Jones? You next? I can go next. No, who's a who are we gonna keep it in order? Yeah, we'll keep it in order.

SPEAKER_00

Excuse me. All right, I'm going old school. This was one of the first songs that I kind of knew all the words. I would practice all the words just because I love this beat.

unknown

You know so well.

SPEAKER_00

I had a little horsey named Paul Revere. Just me and my horsey in a quart of beer.

SPEAKER_01

Just me and my horsey in the middle.

SPEAKER_00

That beat right there.

SPEAKER_03

That's from Licensed to L. License to L is still selling in stores. Absolutely. And it's gonna sell forever. It's gonna always sell. That's what that's gonna sell forever.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

This is from 1986. Now, 86, I don't know if white boys was buying this. But we was buying it. Yeah, but once the 90s hit, it started being on the shelf with, you know, the other people's buying that. Um, this right here was licensed to LBC Boys.

SPEAKER_07

Because Brass Monkey on that same album, right?

SPEAKER_01

Them boys had some wild beats, man.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, this they had some good beats, had some dope ass beats. They did. That's some dope beats.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that's a good one, show. That's a that's a real good one. Who next? Jones? Yeah, what you got? I'm glad we don't have any more that's gonna match up.

SPEAKER_00

And I'm glad I picked extra Slick Rick Mona Lisa off of the This used to be my song.

SPEAKER_07

Off the Great Adventures of Slick Rick album. 1988. 88. 88.

SPEAKER_00

I remember it.

SPEAKER_03

Man, I think this is like children's story. Was no Chubb Rock was like one of the first ones I learned all the words, but children's story was enough.

SPEAKER_00

And the way the beat comes in, he be like, enough. And then that beat come in.

SPEAKER_07

This part that I had a discussion on my show about this album. When it came, when they dropped the greatest 10 hip-hop albums of all time, and this was number 10.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it shouldn't have been.

SPEAKER_07

And them boys said it shouldn't have been number 10. I said, Y'all, y'all lying. Like, y'all don't even understand what this album did on hip hop.

SPEAKER_03

It should have been up for everything.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, like me and Doogie got into a real live argument about it. So I had to start naming songs off the album on it. B Love was like, he pulling up from the parking lot on you, dude. Because like this album was so great. Yeah, it was. In 1988, the sound was like, it's damn the timeless. Yeah, like you can play this song now and you wouldn't be able to tell unless you listen to what he's talking about. When he said Kangool and like that type shit, you'll know where it's from.

SPEAKER_03

But other than that, I'm looking at the cover right now. I'm looking at the songs on it. And Treat him like a prostitute. There's four songs off the top of my head. Oh, five. Uh children's story, treat them like a prostitute. The first song on the album. Hey Young World. Hey Young World, Teenage Love, Teenage Love. Moni Love. I mean Moni Love Mona Lisa uh an Indian Girl. Indian Girl.

SPEAKER_07

Indian Girl. Indian Girl. One of my favorite songs off the album. One of the greatest rap albums ever.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's classic.

SPEAKER_03

It is.

SPEAKER_07

But this beat, it really is. My wife got footage of me dancing to this at a concert. We went to see Slit Rick at a festival in Atlanta. Yeah. I was going crazy.

SPEAKER_03

That's one person I'd never seen that I always wanted to see.

SPEAKER_07

Oh man.

SPEAKER_03

I had a chance to see it.

SPEAKER_07

In this old age, he put on a great show. Yeah. Oh, God, yeah. I danced, man. I danced till I passed out after the show. In the car. I ain't even as soon as I got to the car, I passed out, man. Oh, man. Shout out to Ricky D, man.

SPEAKER_00

Shout out Slickwork with the Jewelry, with the Wallabies. And it was always fresh.

SPEAKER_07

And they still use his jewelry. The rap. They call him to their shows to borrow his jewelry. Yep.

SPEAKER_06

Yep.

SPEAKER_07

Shout out.

SPEAKER_03

Which is dope. All right. Is it my turn? Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

It's your turn.

SPEAKER_03

See, I I now, you know, I'm shuffling through my list. Now I'm not going to order no more. So y'all bringing all these bangers on the club. Okay. Okay. I'm going to have to go with this next one. This next one's from the hometown. Wu-Tang clan. Also from Into the 36 Chambers. Shame on the nigga.

SPEAKER_07

Shame on a nigga.

SPEAKER_03

Shame on the nigga. 1993. Just the if you hear this come on in the party at the time. It was a scuffle going on.

SPEAKER_07

That's a get hype song. This shit gets you hype.

SPEAKER_03

And really, they had so much to say, because at the time, you know, everything was Queens, Brooklyn, Bronx, Bronx. You put this on, and you was proud to be from Staten Island.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Like That was your one time, ain't it? No, it wasn't. That was Wu Tang was your one time to shine. No.

SPEAKER_07

But it was nine of them.

SPEAKER_03

Forcome D's. Ooh, they from Staten Island? Man, uh, I used to run through their yard to go to the store. Tinder Love? Oh. Man, I used to they used to live on a corner, corner of the same street as me. I used to cut through their yard to go to the store. Run in run to the store. Shout out to Mercury. Who else? I mean, there's other people from Staten Island. Wu Tang made it, don't even matter. You know what? Wu Tang. Yeah. We're gonna say Wu Tang's the only one from Staten Island. Be proud of that. They're not the only one. I ain't even gonna say that.

SPEAKER_00

Be proud of that.

SPEAKER_03

They're not the only ones. Pop the Brown Hornet. We just made 25 years. His album just came out. 25 years. Okay. Shaheen the Rugged Chow. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Um C's, Peach Fuzz.

SPEAKER_00

Not Peach Fuzz. Whoever it is. Peach Fuzz. Peach Fuzz.

SPEAKER_03

Um C's. Um you might as well say Audio 2 is from Statin. Oh, okay. Because Audio 2 has done so much on Staten Island.

SPEAKER_07

That's the one I forgot.

SPEAKER_03

Oh.

SPEAKER_07

That's the one I forgot.

SPEAKER_03

We all forgot that. That's the one I forgot.

SPEAKER_07

We all forgot. I was trying to think about it. I didn't forget.

SPEAKER_00

I tried to do something different. We talked about that before.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, I tried to do something different too. That top villain, boy. Top villain. That might be the wrong one. You can't go wrong with that one. That's one of the greatest beats. And it's been used a hundred times over. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. All right. Well, that was mine. Shame on the nigga. Enter the Wu-Tang 36 Chambers and asked. 1993. Good year. I like that year.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that was a good year. 93, 94.

SPEAKER_03

Yep, yeah. Who next? Sure.

SPEAKER_00

That's my turn. Uh-huh. All right.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

When this came out, I wanted to smoke blunts. I wanted to have my Tim's on. I just wanted to be a thug.

SPEAKER_03

This right here, the whole group. I'm going to call it a group.

SPEAKER_00

I'ma call it a group, so.

SPEAKER_03

Black Moon?

SPEAKER_00

Black Moon. That was 93. 93 was a good year.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

So the week, what we do, welcome down, we're like. Into the stage. Black Moon, 1993. That was a strong one. I I was surprised you picked that one, not the other one. You know what the other one is. I got you open. I got you open.

unknown

Oh.

SPEAKER_00

How many MCs? How many MCs is good too?

SPEAKER_07

Who got the props? Who got the props?

SPEAKER_00

Who got the props? Remember that? Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

I'm surprised you didn't pick that one.

SPEAKER_00

I didn't bump this as much as I bumped the other one. Oh, for real? How many MCs? Buck them down.

SPEAKER_03

I got you open.

SPEAKER_00

I got you open. This one, who got the props was more radio friendly. I told you I was trying to be a thug. I was trying to get some guns. Get some we what's up?

SPEAKER_03

You had your Timbs on, right? Yeah. You definitely had the Tims on. That was that was a good one. That was a good one. Jones, what you got, man? See, this is the The Diabolical. This is in that era, too.

SPEAKER_07

Biz Markey. Off the going off album. Make the music with your mouthpiece.

SPEAKER_01

Make the mouthpiece. I want you.

unknown

I want you.

SPEAKER_07

This beat. Like I said, I used to ride around in the 2000s listening to this type of shit. Like, cause I didn't have a car with Wolfers when it was out. But man.

unknown

Girls get excited.

SPEAKER_00

I actually met um Bizmarke. Did at a jam and a park.

SPEAKER_07

Oh man. I'm not gonna say I became a good one.

SPEAKER_00

He was like low-key trying to holler.

SPEAKER_07

He had to be one of the coolest guys. I saw him at a yo Gabba Gabba concert. He ain't cool.

SPEAKER_03

He wasn't cool. He ain't cool. He wasn't. Nah, I don't think I ever told this story. I might tell it now.

SPEAKER_00

Tell it now.

SPEAKER_07

God is do, man.

SPEAKER_03

Man. All right. Downtown Brooklyn had a famous music store. That's when I was DJing.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

They had a favorite, favorite music store. Downstairs. It was called Downstairs Records or something like that. Well, I'm in there getting something. I'm Gary Walk out. God bumped me hard. Look up.

SPEAKER_00

It's biz.

SPEAKER_03

It's biz. He turned, look at me, and kept on going. Oh, he didn't say excuse me on that. Nah, he definitely didn't. He definitely didn't. So at the time, you know, this is that time. My raise, my race is already clicked. It's already clicked. Because downtown Brooklyn was it was treacherous around that time. This was had to be 97. 96. 96, 97. No. I was a teenager. 97. 97. My razor was already. You know, the old the orange razor with the levels on it. Yeah. It was already. I was ready because I didn't know what it was. Like, you know, I just turned from the oh forget biz, man. Rest in these bit.

SPEAKER_00

He probably was feeling himself. He was like, you bumped into me. You should say, excuse me.

SPEAKER_03

I know this is his home, like, he's, you know, Alby Square Mall, Fulton Street. Yeah. That's his stomping grounds, but damn. I'm the little teenager. I was the YN.

SPEAKER_00

You mad about that.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I was mad. Look, I didn't think about that story until you said you met her. And I was like, you know what? I'm at that.

SPEAKER_00

I met that mother lady. You tried to get my digits.

SPEAKER_03

Nah, I was mad about that. Oh, man. Don't be mad. Let that go. I'm sorry. I forgot about that. I forgot about that. Alright, I'm sorry, Cheryl. Okay, okay. Who's out? Oh man.

SPEAKER_00

You'll be alright.

SPEAKER_06

You'll be all right.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, matter of fact. Oh, not that not that one. Not that one. There we go. Okay, okay. Alright, so make the music with your mouth, Biz. Shout out to Biz, man. Shout out. I think that was like 86.

SPEAKER_07

80, yeah. 87. 86, 87. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I remember, I remember when it was out. You know, on streaming platforms, they're gonna say 94 because they don't know.

SPEAKER_07

But the studio album dropped in 88. Well, of course, you know the song came out before the album came out.

SPEAKER_03

It probably seven. Yeah, 87. I remember the album cover. The album cover, it was black and white. It had him, TJ Swan, and they had the Coca-Cola shirts, and they was jumping. That I still got the album.

SPEAKER_00

Was the vapors on that album too?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. I think so. Like that song too. That's my joint. Oh boy. Woo-sa. You definitely fucked me. Alright, who's next? Is it my turn? Alright. I got one. It's another hardcore one. And yeah, we like it raw.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we like it raw.

SPEAKER_03

This MOP. 1994.

SPEAKER_07

Didn't they put this on the Sunset Park soundtrack? Yep. Exactly.

SPEAKER_03

Um the album also, it was to the death. M O P mobbed Um, not Mobb D. MOP. Stands for Mash Out Posse. Yeah, Mash Out Posse. Um, that's that was that was a that was a song. Like that's when fighting in parties and stuff was going on. Like it was a cutting, or something going on. Somebody got robbed to this song. Like, there was no happy dancing to the song. Like if they played this in a party or a club, it wasn't a time to like, you know, be either put your back to the wall or you went and got that person you was looking for.

SPEAKER_06

Oh shit. Put your back to the wall.

SPEAKER_03

Put your back to the wall and look and see where whoever the problem you had with M O Put old days.

SPEAKER_06

Nash out Posse.

SPEAKER_03

It was so simple. Who's your favorite? Cheryl, who's your favorite? Um is it is it Billy Dan's or Lil Fame?

SPEAKER_00

Lil Fame.

SPEAKER_03

I think so too. I think that might be mine too. Just that he used to talk with that that super list. But Billy Dan, he de he definitely showed up on some of it. Yeah. This is the second Second uh video ever seen with guns. Like BDP had guns in one of their videos, but it was always blurred out.

SPEAKER_07

This one, they they didn't blur these out. I'm trying to think, was that my philosophy?

SPEAKER_03

Right?

SPEAKER_07

At a tech or something like that. That was my philosophy.

SPEAKER_03

That's what it was.

SPEAKER_07

It might have been.

SPEAKER_03

You're a philosopher?

SPEAKER_07

Yes. Might have been. Because you know, he had uh he was on the the album cover.

SPEAKER_03

With with the gun like that. Like Malcolm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Alright, who next?

SPEAKER_00

It's my turn.

SPEAKER_03

Set rope poison.

SPEAKER_00

This song right here, I can remember going to the studio. I couldn't wait. I used to be on a Friday night show with my homeboy Mark Ellion. And we would do freestyles. And this beat right here.

SPEAKER_03

Wait, so you can freestyle?

SPEAKER_00

Sort of kind of.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_00

It was back in the day.

SPEAKER_03

But all right, so back in the day, freestyle was different. It was writing freestyle, right?

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_03

But you could do that?

SPEAKER_00

I I would write, I would have my song already, all my you know, my hot 16, and then he would put on a beat, and I just float to whatever beat he put on.

SPEAKER_02

Word.

SPEAKER_00

So when this came out, everybody wanted to do their um part off of this.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So this Mad Ism channel live. There's the beat right here.

SPEAKER_07

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_00

You have to, when you get on this, you got to bring some heat.

SPEAKER_07

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_00

All the dudes was in the studio. Everybody wanted the freestyle for this.

unknown

What we do with spark mags?

SPEAKER_03

You got something for it?

SPEAKER_00

Mm-hmm. You was not putting me on the spot.

SPEAKER_03

You sure I can find the instrumental real quick while we're I'm good.

SPEAKER_00

I'm good. I'm good. I just want to hear it.

SPEAKER_03

I'm good. Whose show was that? Was that Booterat show?

SPEAKER_00

That was Mark Ellevinson's show. Friday nights.

SPEAKER_03

He had his own show?

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, word.

SPEAKER_00

It was like 10 to 12.

SPEAKER_03

Word.

SPEAKER_00

And I couldn't wait for Friday nights.

SPEAKER_03

How old were you at that time?

SPEAKER_00

I was probably 18, 19. Oh, okay. 18, 19, 20.

SPEAKER_03

Oh. Yeah. Yeah. I knew it was a reasonable.

SPEAKER_00

I shocked them all when because nobody knew that I could rhyme. And just one day, me and my homeboy was just kicking it. And I was like, yeah, I can rhyme. Yeah. A word. It just started from there. He told Mark about me, and Mark was like, he wanted to hear me, and he heard me, and I guess he liked it.

SPEAKER_03

And I know what I'm gonna do one day.

SPEAKER_00

What you gonna do?

SPEAKER_03

One of these days while we going through a uh a music thing, I'm gonna click on one of your songs on here. I got some joints. Yeah. I'm gonna have I'm gonna have to I'm gonna surprise you with it too. I ain't gonna say, all right, we're getting ready for your song. I'm gonna it's gonna just play it. You gonna think some uh slick rick is coming on? It's gonna be you.

SPEAKER_00

It's gonna be me. Those are good times. Those good times. Music brings people together, I'm telling you.

SPEAKER_03

That's dope.

SPEAKER_00

And I was the only girl, I was the only girl with a whole bunch of niggas.

SPEAKER_03

So that's dope. That's dope. You remember any of the ones that were you up there with you?

SPEAKER_00

Who?

SPEAKER_03

Are they in the same area they're still in the same area?

SPEAKER_00

Buddha, Malik, Malik Shabazz, um, my homeboy Mo, my homeboy Jibree. It was a lot of people. It was a lot of niggas.

SPEAKER_03

So now they need to listen to the episode for this.

SPEAKER_00

They need to? Okay, I'll tell them.

SPEAKER_03

You had to send it to them. I'll tell them. All right, um Is it is it my turn? No, it's it's my turn. It's Jones, huh?

SPEAKER_07

Yeah. We're gonna go.

SPEAKER_03

Uh we got so many classics up here.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, like I'm I told you I was going straight old school. I'm mad at this one. These are the songs that shape my childhood. These songs made help me become a man. They helped me become a man. Like the preachings of these songs, like three times dope.

SPEAKER_03

There we go.

SPEAKER_07

Funky dividends, right? Man, that's believable. Greatest man alive put me on game, and I stick by these words till this day. Michelle, goddamn, they like, come on.

SPEAKER_00

It's a third dress this week. I was with when I was with Busy B, I had it all.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah. Like, man, and the craziest part about this song is that half the generation from today, they probably never heard it. But these women, this is how they portray themselves on social media. Like, if you can't do X, Y, and Z for me, what are you doing with it? You know what I'm saying? Like, man, come on, man. And if I know it's gonna be like this, I wouldn't have stepped to you from the junk. Yeah, I would have just gone on about my business. That's but like this beat. It's just, I don't know if it reminded me of something my dad used to listen to or something.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, this is a sample.

SPEAKER_07

It's a sound. I don't know if it's uh I think it's Betty Wright. Could be. I think it's the Betty Wright. It could be. I think it is. But then after this, Diddy took it and did the total remix to it. Yep. So this beat is just gonna always resonate with me because anytime I hear the beat, I think about the greatest man alive.

SPEAKER_03

I think I I I don't know if I like their style that really drew me to them.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Or was it um what's the other song they had?

SPEAKER_07

Um Greatest Man Alive.

SPEAKER_03

Probably Greatest Man Alive. It probably is greatest man.

SPEAKER_07

They had a funky beat to it too.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it was more up tempo. Yeah, it was probably greatest man alive.

SPEAKER_00

Probably because they was kind of different. Different at that time. Yeah, they were they were flexible.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, they were. EST is the unusual fellow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but like that's I remember watching that video on TV in the 80s. Yeah, yeah. I remember seeing the video.

SPEAKER_00

They were sitting on the couch, yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Like I remember that. So you know, like nostalgia at its best. Like, man, and and now when I hear it, I go down a rabbit hole and I'm like, damn, I was seven years old watching Rap City. My sister was running around with all her friends, like, man, this the good old days.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I didn't know they were from Philly, yeah, until like I got older. Back then, you know, it was just a guy with a gumby.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, he had a gumby. I got cousins from Philly. So when I've, you know, when they used to come down every summer, yeah. It's like, man, I know them dudes, you know. Like one of my cousins actually was classmates with Will Smith.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, worried, right?

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, he died in 2000. But yeah, he went over Brooke. Oh, worried. Yeah, with Will. Yeah. Yeah, man. So, but Philly, like, they don't get enough credit for they, you know. Well, you know what? They don't get enough credit. They don't get enough credit.

SPEAKER_03

They like three times, though. Okay, they put out maybe two or three albums. All the songs wasn't bangers, but they did have a style. Yeah, they had a style. They had their own. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Everybody back then had their own style. Nobody sounded the like.

SPEAKER_03

Like, yeah. I kind of think him and had to be Bobby Brown was the only ones to freak the Gumby the right way. Like, he the way his joint was, it was it was different. Yeah. I can't think of nobody else that really had gumbies back then.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, them about only two.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, he might, he had the cuts, and I think he had he it was something about it. Yeah. They would fly, they would fly.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, man. Shout out the three times dope.

SPEAKER_03

Three times dope. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_07

Greatest man alive. I think that was what, 88?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Possibly 88. Did the dummy move. Yeah, on streaming platforms. I don't think they have a date. Started asking for my dividends. All right. It's time. I got one here. This is uh I I don't know. I think this is 1992. It's from Jersey.

SPEAKER_00

Guess what? I had this on my list and I scratched it off. I had a whole lot of them and I kind of went on down.

SPEAKER_07

Tonight's the night.

SPEAKER_03

Tonight's the night by Red Man.

SPEAKER_00

Get off that punk stuff.

SPEAKER_03

What's the album is the name? This right here. This one starts off.

SPEAKER_06

I walk them down the street with the black tech now by the waistline. Ticking the hype shit.

unknown

Another good.

SPEAKER_03

All right. That right there, we all three of us just danced. Like it was the first time we heard the song.

SPEAKER_07

That's Red Man, yo. Like, he still don't get his credit. He don't. He don't. Do not get his credit. Shout out to Yoshi for calling me and telling me that, bringing it to my attention. Like, Red Man just don't get his credit.

SPEAKER_03

And he called me too and told me the same thing.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah. Yeah. He did. He don't. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

He called me and told me.

SPEAKER_07

He said he forgot a song. He said I left off a song off my list last week. But man, they don't give Red Man the credit. It was Red Man Buster Ron. He called me yesterday. The goodness. He's like, man, it came on while I was in the gym. Yeah. He called me yesterday. Yeah. I'm like, man, I was like, you know what? I said, Nats off the docks, the name album. One of the toughest albums in the early 2000s.

SPEAKER_00

Redman was different, too. Yes, he was. He brought a different type of style.

SPEAKER_07

He was. Yes.

SPEAKER_00

And he had some great videos. He had good videos.

SPEAKER_07

He's a hell of an artist.

SPEAKER_00

I'll never forget the video for I'll be that.

SPEAKER_07

Oh, God.

SPEAKER_00

When the girl riding with the bike and she hit the car.

SPEAKER_07

I love that.

SPEAKER_03

That's on social media now.

SPEAKER_07

Like I just seen it pop up yesterday. Yeah. Shout out to Red Man.

SPEAKER_03

Matter of fact, Red Man had Tonight's Tonight. Tonight's Tonight, he had the scene with the guns. You know, when I'm a teenager, I was just like I am now about guns.

SPEAKER_00

Fascinated.

SPEAKER_03

They had the 357s and the 44s, and Tonight's Tonight. And me and my niggas ain't playing. And they show the guns and stuff like that. Then they started bleeping it out and blurring it out.

SPEAKER_07

MTV did it first.

SPEAKER_03

This album right here, it had I like the Psycho Ward. Dr. Trevor's. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

You know, they had that on there. All his skits is always fire. Superman Lover. Superman Lover. That's a series. He needs to do a TV series on the video. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Time for some action.

SPEAKER_07

I didn't want to put that because it was so big.

SPEAKER_03

Everybody, I I I swore everybody, I really thought you were going to pull it out, Cheryl.

SPEAKER_00

You thought so?

SPEAKER_03

Time for some action?

SPEAKER_00

But no, that didn't make my list, but tonight's the night then.

SPEAKER_03

Time for some action. The reason I didn't pick it because it was a super sample from Cyphers Hill. And I put Cyphers Hill on my honorable mention. But um, yeah, Tonight's The Night, Red Man, 1992, What's the Album? What's the album is the name?

SPEAKER_00

Was that the Red Cassette? Which one was the Red Cassette? There is a Dark Sork Side. Okay.

SPEAKER_03

There is a Dark Side. That was the joint. And um I don't know where I seen it. No, Keith Murray told me. Keith Murray told me that Red Man said he don't want to perform any songs from There is a Dark Side anymore.

SPEAKER_07

Why? Because of where he was at in his life? He said, exactly. He said that his. That was kind of it was it was a dark-ass album. It was dark.

SPEAKER_03

He said, we don't want to perform any of those songs. It was dark.

SPEAKER_00

So I don't blame him.

SPEAKER_03

It was dark. Which is crazy. Because they had some bangers on that. Yes, it did.

SPEAKER_07

Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, bangers. All of Red Man's albums.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Every single Red Man album you're gonna get.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, he's not gonna disappoint you. Muddy Waters is a cover-to-cover absolutely. That might be the best one. Greatest. I'm talking about great. I'm talking about put it in, don't touch it. They said 1920 songs of pure hip hop. Is that the one that saved Def Jam? Yeah, absolutely. It might have been.

SPEAKER_03

I think they said Muddy Waters is what brought Def Jam back. Def Jam was over.

SPEAKER_07

96.

SPEAKER_03

They said it was over. And they put that out. They end up coming back. They end up coming back.

SPEAKER_07

Muddy Waters and Doc's the Name are my two absolute favorite albums by Red Man.

SPEAKER_03

What was the first one?

SPEAKER_00

Shout out to Red Man. I like all of them.

SPEAKER_07

I mean, but I was I was like I was younger. So when I started driving, like Muddy Waters was one of the first albums I listened to in my car.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

You know what I'm saying? I had my license now. I can drive past eight o'clock. I was smoking. Me and my homeboy ride around smoking to that shit, man. Whatever, man. Oh man.

SPEAKER_03

Whatever, man. Yeah, whatever, man. Yo. All right, who we at?

SPEAKER_00

It's my turn.

SPEAKER_03

Share with poison.

SPEAKER_00

I like this beat. When I think of it, I don't know. I just want to like ride in my car. I ain't got no um speakers in my car.

SPEAKER_03

You got rims on it though?

SPEAKER_00

I ain't got no speakers, though. I need some speakers to knock this. When you hear this.

SPEAKER_07

Is this Master Ace? Get the fuck out of here. I'm going home.

SPEAKER_06

God damn it.

SPEAKER_07

I'm going home.

SPEAKER_00

Don't leave, don't leave.

SPEAKER_07

Oh my God. Are you kidding me? Cheryl, what you know by this, man?

SPEAKER_00

What's the scientific echo?

SPEAKER_03

Oh my god. Hey man, she surprised me every show.

SPEAKER_07

My sister used to love Master Ace, man.

SPEAKER_03

So wait, let me. They had another version of this.

SPEAKER_00

It's called Jeep Ass Nigga.

SPEAKER_03

That's what it was, right?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. That was the first one. He remade it. Right. I like this beat better. For real? Yeah, this is the better beat.

SPEAKER_07

Is that sitting on Chrome? No. It's not sitting on Chrome?

SPEAKER_03

Um, the album is. Yeah, Sitting on Chrome.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, okay. Yeah.

unknown

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

It's called Bone the Roll. That's what I got.

SPEAKER_07

Bone the Roll, yeah. So maybe he did it and added it to the Sitting on Chrome album. That's what I'm thinking it happened. Cause my sister used to love Mast Days. That's why when that shit came on, I was like, oh my God.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Oh, you took me. That's a banger. It's probably every week.

SPEAKER_00

That's a banger.

SPEAKER_07

She got me just now. She got me.

SPEAKER_00

I'm not your average chick chick. I'm not your average chick.

SPEAKER_07

You're absolutely not. That that is that solidified just now. I told her there's a reason we put the show together. You got my, I don't know what to say.

SPEAKER_03

So wait, I think when she really proved it to me is when she knew about this group that I think only me and my cousin paid attention to. These guys were dancers first, but then they end up making a song. And it was Ziggy.

SPEAKER_00

Ziggy.

SPEAKER_03

You ever heard of a group Ziggy?

SPEAKER_07

Never heard that before. She knew it.

SPEAKER_00

I'm shocked you don't know.

SPEAKER_07

I'm surprised you don't know too. If I heard it, I just don't know the name.

SPEAKER_00

Let me say that.

SPEAKER_07

Jeez, uh, that Master A's just took me out of it.

SPEAKER_00

That is my song.

SPEAKER_07

I remember I remember my sister coming home from college, listening to Master A's. Like the INC ride.

SPEAKER_00

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_07

Sitting on Chrome. Like she used to love Master A's.

SPEAKER_00

Your sister is a little bit more. Yes, she is.

SPEAKER_07

Yes, she is. I'm telling you, I that's where I get it from. I get it from her. She used to put me on all that good stuff. That's crazy. Oh my God.

SPEAKER_00

Music back then was different. Master Ace.

SPEAKER_07

Master Ace.

SPEAKER_03

Master Ace. That was on the album Sitting on Chrome 1995. I think it was out before that, though, right? I think I just talked about it. 95?

SPEAKER_07

I just did the re the reunion on that a couple months ago. Oh, Master Ace? Yeah. That's my time. That's my era. Like music was the greatest thing. The greatest, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Then we just say that. We said that what? Last episode?

SPEAKER_07

It was the greatest, man. 94 through 95. Yeah. 94 through 95. The golden years. Yeah. The golden years.

SPEAKER_03

All right.

SPEAKER_07

Who next? I'ma go ahead and I'ma go ahead and uh I'm going to just this this one's real simple. Um, nothing flashy about it. Uh the guy Nas.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. My baby daddy. What's up, baby daddy?

SPEAKER_07

The message off of it was written album. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

I don't know if it was as much as what he was saying in the song that made the beat that much harder to me, but like I said, this beat used to come on and like it was like time was stopped. Move.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

You know? And man, it was a moment in time. Even when they had like the the if I rule the world video, this was the intro to the something. You know what I'm saying? But then I I went and got the album and I'm in the car and I'm listening to it. And I'm listening to what he's saying. And I'm like, this dude is really, really different. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's when I really became more conscious of conscious rappers.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah. Then I went back to brand newbie and you know, like I started, I got more conscious. Yeah. After listening to this. Because he cared about us.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07

B Love, we have the argument about black girl loss all the time, right? Because like black girl loss is still relevant.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Today. And they gon' like Nas is just that type of artist to me. And this beat, I know it was a sample, but crossed them 12s in that little hatchback I had. Man.

SPEAKER_00

It was a sample, but you wouldn't, if you knew what song it's from, I don't know the name of the song, but if you listen to that song, you would never think that this would come from it. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think it was some some white shit.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. It's a white song.

SPEAKER_07

He, uh, Celine Remy, yeah, you his producer, he was lazy knobs with all kinds of shit, man. But this beat is just, it's legendary to me because like I like, I like the slow, the slow shit, you know, with the deep bass. But him giving the.

SPEAKER_00

You like to ride out. This is something you could ride out, too.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, yeah. I cocked that baby nine, the nigga gravy's mind. Clink. What was he thinking on my corner with his baby time? Yeah, man. Shout out to Nas, my cousin, as the easy set. He said, Oh, you related all the Joneses. So, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

All right, who's it? It's on you. It's my turn. Okay. See, I'm gonna have to skip over my um Boogie Down production. And uh, I think I'm gonna go way back on this one. Oh. I think I'm gonna go back a little bit further. This right here, hearing this as a kid, like I was real little hearing this, you know, like my uncles was a DJ, my uncle was a DJ, my older brothers, you know. Being around them, them hearing this. This song came out, it says 88. Ultra magnetic MCs.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you ain't way back.

SPEAKER_07

Yo, hey man, listen. Music was just different.

unknown

Say what?

SPEAKER_07

People cared about the art.

SPEAKER_00

You know why? Because it was original back then. Yeah, they was doing their own beats. It was not a remake or nothing. They was doing their own thing. Yeah, it just made it different.

SPEAKER_03

I don't know what made them come up with a beat like that, though.

SPEAKER_07

That's one of the coldest. That was 1988. And that's the type of shit I like in the beat that they're the little you know, like shit like that, just make it.

SPEAKER_00

I think you could be a producer.

SPEAKER_03

I probably could. You could probably make some beats. I probably could. You would kill if you was a sample producer.

SPEAKER_00

Because you know all the samples and stuff.

SPEAKER_03

Digging in crates, you're gonna be. Ultramagnetic MCs, they also had um an artist on there named Cool Keefe, uh-huh, which made the song like even it's it's one of those ones. You know, you waited for that certain verse, yeah. His was that verse, and he's still dropping albums right now. He's in the rim of uh MF Doom, and he got a certain following that like Kool King from he was shout out to the show. That was mine. That was mine. Ultimately, yeah, that was. And the name of the oh, I'm sorry, the name of the song was uh Ego Tripping. Ego Tripping. Yeah, Ego Tripping. They still play that on uh Rock the Bills a lot.

SPEAKER_07

Oh, for real?

SPEAKER_03

That that that's a classic beat.

SPEAKER_07

That's why when it came in, I was like, ah, damn it.

SPEAKER_06

I heard it the last couple weeks. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Where we at? It's my turn. It's your turn. Go ahead. I I know I know this. We're gonna bring this up a little bit. I see. Um, when I first heard this, I just was like, what the is that? And it's Jeezy. Seen it all. This beat right here is crazy.

SPEAKER_07

You ain't never lied.

SPEAKER_00

Listen to that.

SPEAKER_07

You're right. You don't got flow.

SPEAKER_00

Now you can ride out to this.

SPEAKER_07

Yes, you can. I remember when this shit came out. I went to the store and brought, I was still buying CDs at this time. And man, shit. Wait, that beat dropped. That shit came on. I was like, what the fuck? Jay-Z got going on. Cause I'm the realest living miss. Y'all know it. That beat.

SPEAKER_03

That nigga can't drive. That's crazy right now. You picked the bang on that shit.

SPEAKER_00

Did he put Jay-Z on there?

SPEAKER_07

Oh, Jay-Z's on there.

SPEAKER_00

And you gonna add Jay-Z on there?

SPEAKER_07

He went absolutely, but see, this was, you know, like Jay hadn't been rapping that drug rap for a long time. Yeah. And when he got on there speaking that drug shit, oh my god. What was it?

SPEAKER_03

Was it 97th State Street he was talking about?

SPEAKER_07

Yeah.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. I love that. I love that beat.

SPEAKER_07

That's a honor. You you got me with that one. I never expected that one. I never expected that one.

SPEAKER_03

All right, Jones. You got you got an honorable mention. You want you wanna pick from that?

SPEAKER_07

Did you did you uh pull it up? I got it. I'ma I'm gonna I'ma deviate from that. I got it. I got uh I'ma go with uh yeah, we're gonna do niggas done started song. We're gonna go with this one. This will be the first one, and my next one will be my last one. But this deep in '98 was unbelievable. The whole album. Sample Marvin Gay. That's why I love some.

SPEAKER_00

I think you love anything that sample Marvin Gay. Marvin Gay is like Marvin Gay got some good ones.

SPEAKER_07

He's like my distant uncle or some shit. Like. Oh, I love Marvin. No, not for real, but my mom was a Marvin Gay fanatic.

SPEAKER_03

Oh word.

SPEAKER_07

Oh my gosh. I'm talking about that's all I used to hear when I was growing up. My mama loved Marvin Gay.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, he got some, he got some joints. Marvin got some joints.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, and he played most of the music on his joints. Like Marvin was just, he's just a different musical talent. Marvin Gay and Prince like my two favorite.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, them dudes was just musically different.

SPEAKER_03

So when we do the RB, you know we gotta run it back. Yeah. Do the RB one too.

SPEAKER_07

But this uh this beat as far as posse cuts go, with them niggas on it rapping, you had bass, Jadakus, Styles P, Sheik Luoch, and DMX. They went absolute, everybody snapped on that shit.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you're right.

SPEAKER_07

Everybody did. You're right about that. And the beat didn't help it. Like I don't know. I think did Swiss do that beat?

SPEAKER_02

I think Swiss might have that beat.

SPEAKER_07

He probably had to. I think he did. I think he did because he redid it on one of his albums that came out a couple years ago. He reused his beat on an album he did. But Swiss, he engineered the shit out of this one.

SPEAKER_03

I can't pull it up on you.

SPEAKER_07

He engineered. I got the booklet at the house. I'll pull it up. Yeah, open that booklet. Open it up. Check my booklet when I get to the crib. Yeah. All right. Shout out to uh the Rough Riders.

SPEAKER_00

That used to be exciting. Getting a C and opening up the um booklet.

SPEAKER_07

Before I even pull out the parking lot, I'm talking about as soon as I put soon as I get in the parking lot, rip that joint open, put it in the CD player, crank the car up, sit there. And I'm reading the book.

SPEAKER_00

And don't let them have the lyrics in there. Oh god, Naga. Oh, you got the lyrics in there too?

SPEAKER_07

Naga. I can't wait to get home. I'm gonna know all the songs.

SPEAKER_00

I'ma know everything. Good times.

SPEAKER_03

Good times. That was from uh DMX album It's dark and hell is hot. Yeah, 1998.

SPEAKER_07

Yep.

SPEAKER_03

Um, is it my turn? It's your turn. All right. I'm good. I'm gonna use this last one. I see nobody picked it. I don't know why not. But that's a good thing because I get it.

SPEAKER_00

Let me see. Was it on my list?

SPEAKER_03

Here we go. Um, this is from 1999. A small album called I tried Explosive.

SPEAKER_07

I I went through my I went through my. I said, is it something from Dr. Dre I want to use? Is it anything? I was like, nah, I'm gonna lead Dre out of it. Dr.

SPEAKER_03

Drew 2001, the name of the song is Explosive.

SPEAKER_00

Guess what? It was on my big list.

SPEAKER_07

It was all but niggas drinking cognac. You hear that? This shit is just and it's you can ride out and smoke to this one. It's little shit like that.

SPEAKER_03

That's why I like it.

SPEAKER_07

That's why this shit just makes the shit so fucking hard.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that's why I like it. Oh my god. Yep, that was my good one.

SPEAKER_07

Oh, that was a great one.

SPEAKER_03

That was my last one. I'm not even gonna name no more. That's gonna be my honorable man.

SPEAKER_07

Look at him.

SPEAKER_06

He's gonna go out like that.

SPEAKER_03

I'm gonna close my segment with that. I'll let y'all.

SPEAKER_07

What you got? You got one more.

SPEAKER_00

I got one more. Let me go. Let me go. I'm gonna go.

SPEAKER_07

I added some since we started.

SPEAKER_00

Nah, you can't add that. We have to do another show.

SPEAKER_07

I only added one. Well, I added two, but I'ma I'ma um this honorable mention piggybacking off of one of yours. Okay. All right, Cheryl. What you do?

SPEAKER_00

Okay, I'm gonna go and I'm gonna let him go. Okay. My honorable mention.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, oh, I see what it is.

SPEAKER_00

Dipset anthem.

SPEAKER_03

Alright. That's a hard one.

SPEAKER_06

This beat right here is your boy. So everybody says nothing. Everybody do the rock. Yeah, everybody do the rock. That's all you can do. Oh God. 2003. What a time to be alive. What a time.

SPEAKER_07

Today's a new day.

SPEAKER_06

That's a classic.

SPEAKER_07

Yes, it is.

SPEAKER_03

See, they're not respecting jewels for stuff like that.

SPEAKER_07

They not. And that's sad.

SPEAKER_03

That right there.

SPEAKER_07

Them boys was a movement. They was. It was a whole movement. Yeah. It was a movement. Yeah. I'm telling you. They was a movement.

SPEAKER_03

The reason niggas wear pink.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah. Yeah, they was a whole movement.

SPEAKER_03

Exactly. Dirty pink, dark pink. I'm telling you, you go in those. Baby pink. You go in those what's what's those stores? Those detail. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

All the pink t-shirts is in there.

SPEAKER_07

Like, and it's because of Cam now. Yep.

SPEAKER_03

The bandana.

SPEAKER_00

Cam came through with the whole pink fur and everything. You doing it like that, Cam?

SPEAKER_03

The bandanas all over. They started rocking the flag bandana again because Drew Al Santana.

SPEAKER_07

Yep.

SPEAKER_03

Crazy era. All right. Who's next? Um, it's you, huh?

SPEAKER_07

I'm gonna go ahead and give you this last one. It ain't the one I had on my list.

SPEAKER_03

I know. That's what I'm gonna be trying to pull up.

SPEAKER_07

I'm gonna go uh Souls of Mischief.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_07

We'll go 93 to Infinity.

SPEAKER_03

I know what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, we'll do that. That's one of them. Like, that's one of them that got that. That's like what really turned me on to like the West Coast sound. Oh, yeah. That's when I really realized that the West Coast had a sound.

SPEAKER_03

Sound, yeah. Um, what what um was that? BET used to play this. That's the only reason I caught window. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

But they had that like that that wine, that whisker. We meant my sister called the West Coast wine. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

What do you what do you say? Got the seven digits.

SPEAKER_07

Got the seven digits, call it fridget. A man's a midget. Yeah, I can dig it.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, so's a mischief.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, we used to kill this back in the day. Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_03

I think because I think what's called really pumped that one up, BT. Yeah, they did. Because BT played that on Twitter.

SPEAKER_07

They played the shit out of that. Rap City kept it. I'm tempted. It was on the top 10. Yep. All that. Like they kept it in rotation. And that was in 1993. 1993.

SPEAKER_03

1993. And the album is Soldier Mischief 93 to infinity. Yep, yep. All right. Miss Poison. Is your is your honorable mention? Oh, it's I already did my.

SPEAKER_00

I got one more though.

SPEAKER_03

You do got one more.

SPEAKER_00

I got one more.

SPEAKER_03

Go ahead. Give me that one, Ball.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know why, but I really do like this beat. Um, it's still tipping.

SPEAKER_07

Ooh.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, okay. Still tipping on food.

SPEAKER_07

To the Sasa Texas, baby.

SPEAKER_00

I went down to Tex.

SPEAKER_07

Down to Texas. She get hit. Mike Jones.

SPEAKER_00

Mike Jones. Slim thug. Paul Wall.

SPEAKER_07

Paul Wall.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Paul.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. So you went down south for me. I went down south.

SPEAKER_07

Chopping screw. That's a hard beat. Yes, it is.

SPEAKER_03

That's a hard beat. I was I was listening to screwed up music for a quick second.

SPEAKER_04

Rap and phone calls. Yeah, that's hard. That's hard. Michael Watts. Yeah, that's hard.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I can dig that one. I can dig that one. All right. Well, the show ain't over yet. We might as well get into it. September 12th, 1995. Coogie Rap put out an album called 456. That's uh 30 years ago. Yes. And that is a classic. Yes, it is. That's um I didn't I didn't bring the hardcover here today, but usually I bring the hardcover and we'll open it up and look at the inside and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_00

But uh 456 is a good one.

SPEAKER_03

I I do have to say this. I think G-Rap's second album, I really couldn't get into it at the time.

SPEAKER_07

Rose Ridges?

SPEAKER_03

No, not Rose Ridges.

SPEAKER_07

Wanted Dead Alive.

SPEAKER_03

Wanted Dead Alive. Because it was so different. And then at the time, I think it was a lot of problems with getting stuff cleared so that the tape will have a totally different song from if you had a record. Or you know, like you had to you had to hear the different stuff other places. Yeah. And uh that might have turned me off uh G-Rap for a minute there. But um Road to Riches, rated R, rated X, that was my favorite song for Rated X. Yeah. I wasn't supposed to be listening to it, but I knew every single word. Yeah. Talk like sex. That's what it is. Yeah. Talk like sex. That's it. Yep. So um I guess that's it. Um, we got movie flashback. You got a movie?

SPEAKER_00

I do got a movie, but before we get into that, I would just want to give a shout out to my homeboy, Nas. Nas is doing big things in Queens. Yeah, I meant to mention he got the green light to build the casino in Queens. Queens, I told you, big Queens. Queens Queens. Big Queens stand up.

SPEAKER_07

Queens get the money.

SPEAKER_00

So I just want to congratulate him on that. He's doing big things. That's my baby daddy. I forgot about that. I forgot about that.

SPEAKER_07

I forgot about that. Yeah, I'm proud of my man. Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_03

You got anything else? I forgot about that. That's big thing, man.

SPEAKER_07

That's that's super big, man. Yeah, yeah. Especially after they just denied Jay a little bit.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, they denied Jay.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah. I wonder what kind of politics was behind that.

SPEAKER_03

I don't know.

SPEAKER_07

Politics is usual.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, something something might re something might happen behind that.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, politics is usual.

SPEAKER_03

Jay-Z might happen to drop one of those sneak discs.

SPEAKER_07

Oh, you know. I heard he had an album in the works.

SPEAKER_03

I heard it too. Just yesterday, I think it was. Or day before yesterday, I heard it was.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, I heard he had an album in the mix, man.

SPEAKER_03

Is he in or out? Is he gonna be in or out?

SPEAKER_07

Let him be in.

SPEAKER_00

He can do what he wanted.

SPEAKER_07

We are the only culture that talks shit about old niggas doing this shit, man.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you're right about that.

SPEAKER_07

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Ozzy Osborne died.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, doing it, yeah. I heard somebody else saying that, yeah.

SPEAKER_07

We shouldn't be like that. You just gotta, it's all about adapting to your time.

SPEAKER_00

I don't care that he's old, but it's if he's gonna do music, do music. Don't be like, oh, I'm retiring.

SPEAKER_07

But but but see, the shit is and then you come back. This year probably has been the greatest year for old niggas. Like all a lot of tall niggas. Yeah, a lot of old niggas done drop some new music like Ghost Ray. We be needing clips, ain't even that old, but they nostalgia is as hell because Malice wasn't rapping. Yeah, but their album is flame.

SPEAKER_00

It is that is a good album. It is.

SPEAKER_07

I like Rayquan joint. I like I like Ghostface shit too. Yeah. You know, but I gotta listen to Kwame. I meant to use him. I had a Did you listen to it? I haven't yet. What? But I got a beat. The only you shit was one of my favorite beats of all time, too. Oh, yeah. And the rhythm. The rhythm. Oh, my God. You know what?

SPEAKER_00

Kwame was different too. When he came out, he brung something different to the ground.

SPEAKER_07

He said Big killed them off.

SPEAKER_03

He did with that pop. With the polka dot shit. Yeah. That shit played out like Kwame and the fucking polka dots.

SPEAKER_07

Mad shit. But see, the shit, like, the shit we let people influence us. Uh to do, yeah. Just because Big said that it was like Kwame was with it. Because Kwame had joints. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

It's like everything he put out was dope. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, man. But I appreciate. Listen, man. This is like the greatest hour and a half. Just let me know when you want me to come back.

SPEAKER_00

All the time. I had to come back for when we do our um RB.

SPEAKER_07

I get laughed at for this shit. Like I get so excited when I talk about old me.

SPEAKER_00

But you talk about it with the wrong people. Yeah. They don't appreciate it.

SPEAKER_07

It takes me there, man. You know what I'm saying, man? Oh my God. Like when L came on my show. B Love's like, yeah, you're gonna love this shit. Me and him just having like the dialogue. Just vibing, just vibe. Yeah, because we talk, we we love. I mean, but I I'm stuck in that shit. I try to get this new shit a chance.

SPEAKER_03

I just can't do it.

SPEAKER_01

I can't either.

SPEAKER_03

But you know what? The thing about me, I'm not stuck in it. But I'm like, I can still, this is out, this the this right here is the time for me to get it out. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is my time. This is, and I'm glad y'all asked me because now I can go home and I can give, I can listen to uh Griselda them and you know, feel all right now. But I'm waiting on that mob deep shit to drop too.

SPEAKER_00

I'm waiting on it too.

SPEAKER_03

Everybody's everybody in there.

SPEAKER_00

As soon as I heard a piece of that first, I was like, I can't wait. The single's out. It's the sky.

SPEAKER_07

It sounds like havoc is still, it sound like prodigy is still living. Yeah. I'm talking about, oh my God.

SPEAKER_00

I'm I don't think they're gonna disappoint. I really think.

SPEAKER_07

I don't think so either. Because Alchemist's been on a run the last couple years. He's been running crazy.

SPEAKER_02

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, but man, I appreciate y'all. No, man. No problem. You always welcome. Whenever y'all want me to come back, just let me know on a Tuesday or Wednesday.

SPEAKER_03

If you're around the corner, you and you finish. And just slide on through. Slide on through. Knock on the door. We over there.

SPEAKER_07

Listen, man. Oh, man. But yeah, um, I think I might listen to that fast life a hundred times on the way home today.

SPEAKER_03

No, you know what you gotta listen to? I'm gonna let you before you leave, I'm gonna let you hear a piece of that Kwame.

SPEAKER_07

Okay. That Kwame is hard.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. Um, I'm L just Once Upon a Time of Music. I'm L. Cheryl Poison. And and Jones is about to be like one of them Vlad people. He's up here all the time, you know. But um Jones, let him enjoy him. Let them know where they can catch you, man.

SPEAKER_07

Uh, every Tuesday on the Music Jones Podcast, all platforms. Um, you can contact me, JP Jones81 on Instagram, or the Music Jones Podcast page as well.

SPEAKER_00

Give them your email, give him your um email.

SPEAKER_07

Uh the musicjones podcast at gmail.com if you want to email me. You can email me topics if you want. If you listen to my show, anything you want to hear me talk about, anything you want to hear me go in depth about, I probably'll save it and come on this show and bring it to them because my young people on my show treat me like I'm an old dude.

SPEAKER_03

And uh Hey, don't listen to B, man.

SPEAKER_07

And and we're at the same age, but she's old.

SPEAKER_03

Don't listen to B.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah. But with him being the oldest sibling around his house, it was a little different because I had an older sister. So I was in tune with all the shit, man. And I love it, and I appreciate y'all for having me.

SPEAKER_00

Always and y'all can reach us at once upon a time and musicpodcast at Yahoo. Send us some joints.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, sir. Let us give us something to read. Yep, yeah. If you got a topic or um, you just want to say what's up, or give us your feedback on what we talked about. Or what we're doing, yeah. Yep, yep. And um, we out of here.

SPEAKER_00

We out.

SPEAKER_07

That was a great one. I got the end of the neck going nuts.