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12 - Optimizer Prime, Heresy in Disguise

November 06, 2025 • Season 1 • Episode 12

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This is bound to be the most optimal episode as the guys are going to break down the latest subject that they have been bickering about. Listen in as Erik and Steve talk about how feeling passionate about doing your favorite parts of the hobby "right" can lead to friction and how to be transparent about your need to optimize differing aspects of your 40K experience.

Topics covered include:

Progress update on “I Taught My Gorilla to Paint” blog series
Discuss our latest bickerfest over how best to paint Erik's favorite army and our disagreement over what "good enough" means
Define what is optimization in 40K
- Benefits?
- Friction Points?
- What are the various areas where people can "optimize"?
- What do you do "when optimization goes wrong?"

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