Integrity First and Freedom by Design: Finding the Right Franchise, with Richard Potter

What if business ownership didn't mean starting from scratch?

In this episode of Unapologetic Leadership, Cory Dunham sits down with entrepreneur, franchise consultant, and multi-business owner Richard Potter to explore how professionals can transition from corporate careers into business ownership with greater confidence and less risk. Richard shares how he helps burned-out executives and veterans find franchise opportunities that align with their skills, values, income goals, and desired lifestyle.

Drawing from his own journey of building, scaling, and operating multiple businesses, Richard discusses the importance of integrity, long-term thinking, time freedom, financial freedom, and avoiding the costly mistakes many entrepreneurs make. He also reveals why the right franchise can provide the systems, support, and community needed to accelerate success while reducing uncertainty.

Whether you're considering entrepreneurship, looking for a better work-life balance, or searching for a path toward greater freedom and legacy, this episode offers practical insights into creating a business designed to support the life you want to live.

About Richard Potter

Richard Potter is a multi-business owner and franchise consultant who helps burned-out executives and veterans transition from corporate careers into structured business ownership. After more than a decade in corporate sales, he moved into entrepreneurship and has since built, scaled, and exited multiple businesses while continuing to actively operate today.

Rather than promoting hype or speculation, Richard helps clients evaluate proven franchise models that align with their strengths, values, and lifestyle goals. His approach focuses on reducing risk, avoiding costly mistakes, and helping people build businesses that create both financial and personal freedom.

Connect with Richard

Website: https://FranchiseHeroes.co
Schedule a Call: https://meetings.hubspot.com/richard-potter/zoom
Email: Rich@QuantumFranchiseGroup.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rich-potter-533381a

Because true leadership isn't just about building a career.

It's about building a life by design.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:01

Welcome to Unapologetic Leadership. If you've felt stressed, overwhelmed, wrestling with the imposter syndrome, wondering if you're just not good enough, then this podcast is for you. So here's your host, Corey Dunham.

SPEAKER_04 0:21

Welcome to this episode of Unapologetic Leadership, where I have Richard Potter, who is providing free in-depth analysis of franchise opportunity. He's empowering professionals to escape the rat race. And he's an award-winning franchise consultant. Welcome, Richard.

SPEAKER_02 0:39

Hey, Corey, thanks for having me. Happy to be here with you.

SPEAKER_04 0:42

Yeah, you are so welcome, and I'm glad you're here too. Excited to hear about what you do and how you impact the world and how you serve people.

SPEAKER_01 0:50

Yeah, well, I'd love to have that conversation with you, man. Let's do it.

SPEAKER_04 0:55

All right. Yeah. So tell me about what do you do exactly? Because you know, you're talking about franchise opportunities. You've also been consulting in franchises. So tell me, I guess, what's your journey with that? What do you do? And who's looking for you?

SPEAKER_02 1:08

Absolutely. Yeah, yeah. So I am a franchise consultant, among other things. You know, I'm a business owner. I own a few businesses. I own a franchise. But I the large picture, what I do is I help people navigate the 4,000 plus franchises out there. I provide a free service to help research and find an ideal franchise match for people. Like it's all about alignment, it's all about finding and building that perfect lifestyle, right? So I'm not chasing trends, not looking for the hottest, you know, biggest name brand, but finding ideal matches for people in the business world. So franchising can sometimes have a bad rep, but there's a lot of really good franchises out there, a lot of great franchisors, and they've built systems of training and support that is just top-notch. So, you know, I feel franchising is the right move for a lot of people, and I help people navigate those waters and find the best one for them.

SPEAKER_04 2:08

And now you had mentioned franchises can have a bad rap. Can you share one or two reasons why that is?

SPEAKER_02 2:16

Yeah, I mean franchises have inherently the model is built to kind of benefit them in a lot of ways. You know, you've got your franchise fee up front, you've got your ongoing royalties. You know, some systems they just want to collect that royalty and make money for themselves without providing the support. You know, so and there's just systems that I don't think were set up right. They weren't set up with the franchisee in mind. And nowadays, I really think the last decade or so that's really changing and franchise ours, they're setting up, they're changing, they're evolving to be more franchisee focused. You know, I think they've realized that the more franchisees that are actually successful and actually making money, the longer they're gonna exist. And if we're all having success, you know, we're gonna be more successful as a group. So I think they've taken that franchisee first approach, which has changed the industry in a lot of ways.

SPEAKER_04 3:18

No, I think that's awesome because I think of just the for most organizations, kind of the front line, the people who are interfacing with the customers, I know many organizations in the past have not considered them or their voice or anything that's going on, even though they're the ones that are dealing with the customers on a day-in and day out basis. So to have that focus to shift more toward the people who are buying the franchises and supporting them makes the most sense. Because if you're supporting them, creating growth, alignment, education, support, then of course that feeds right up the chain or everybody in the mix. It's a win-win situation. So now I appreciate that.

SPEAKER_01 3:58

Everybody benefits, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_04 4:00

Yeah, yeah. And with you owning businesses, it was it always franchises or is it non-franchises also you can deal with?

SPEAKER_02 4:08

Yeah, so I actually started with a couple of startups. You know, I started in event business with my wife probably about 12 years ago now. Is that our start, right? So I I had a sales job, and my largest account got purchased by a company in India, and I was worried that 60, 70% of my commission was gonna disappear overnight. It was gonna be offshore. And so I came home to my wife and I was like, we gotta find something else. And so we started like looking around and kind of through I think it was a Craigslist listing or maybe a biz by sell listing. Like we found someone selling a photo booth company. Okay, and we didn't buy that, but we liked the idea of it, and so we started our own. I bought a couple of photo booths, and you know, the one quickly turned into two after three months and eventually turned into eight and turned into a whole bubble soccer rental business. And I mean, we were killing it on weekends doing events for like Trisha Yearwood and Garth Brooks and NASCAR and Larry Fitzgerald. Like, you know, I mean, it was a good time, but I started with a startup and then a year later started an e-commerce business that I still own today. It wasn't until later on in the journey where I, you know, discovered franchising. And now today I own my e-commerce business still, but I also own another franchise.

SPEAKER_04 5:23

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 5:24

But yeah, I love the support and training and structure that comes with the franchise. So I have experience in both both startups and franchises.

SPEAKER_04 5:32

Yeah, yeah. And I like how you earlier on when you first introduced yourself and what you do, just the idea of customizing it, and I forgot what one of your taglines was, but either freeing people from the rat race or really customizing it for what people's lifestyle they want. So I don't know if you can delve more into what that exactly means because that sounds intriguing for anybody listening to it.

SPEAKER_02 5:54

Yeah, it's helping people escape the rat race, right? And that for me was it. Like I had a great sales job, I was making good money as a top salesperson in the region, right? But like I had this like the ceiling that I couldn't push through, right? I was making really good money for other people, and so I felt like I was just successful on paper, but there was more I wanted more, right? So business ownership for me has done a few things, and this is why I love it, and so I help people escape the rat race, right? It's provided freedom for me, financial freedom, but more so than anything like time freedom. Like I don't miss any of my kids' events, I don't miss any whatever competitions, like if they have something that's important, like my wife has something that's important, I'm there because I can, right? And so what I help people do, and the very first conversation we have is around it's very intentional around like what they want to develop. Like, do you are you okay with something that requires weekends and evenings? You know, do you want to be able to build a system that relies just on you, or a system that relies on a manager that can take over and you can leave and do whatever? So there's so many different franchise systems, you know, whether it's semi-passive, semi-involved, and you've got someone else running the day-to-day, or it's owner operated, or it's brick and mortar, it's home-based. It involves building a team, it involves just you. Like, there's so many things. So, like, we dive into that. What is your ideal picture of you know, getting out of corporate and running your own thing? And I mean, it's different for everybody, right? So that's what I love about franchise. I represent, I don't know, between 500 and 600 franchises, and I can guarantee you, like across 37 different industries, right? So I can guarantee you I can find a set of eight to ten franchises that fit that ideal picture of your life, style, and earnings within that set of franchises. It's just we got to dive in and we got to do the work up front to figure out what that looks like. And some people don't even know what that looks like, right? Like I was just gonna say that, yeah. And we have to brainstorm that and talk through it. So, but that's part of the pre-consulting that I do up front before I ever even show you a franchise. Is let's find out what ideal looks like for you. Let's find out what leading that rat race looks like for you. And some people love their job to a point where for them that freedom isn't even necessarily leaving their job, it's buying a franchise as another investment vehicle for future, for legacy, right? So there are those opportunities where you can invest in a franchise. You're gonna hire a team that's gonna do the day-to-day, and you can keep your job. It's different, it looks different for everybody.

SPEAKER_04 8:46

Yeah, no, I think that's pretty cool. And that's when I coach executives and business owners more so of their self-leadership, and I can also coach them on marketing and other things that we have experience with. But I think that's awesome when you talk about legacy, when you talk about the future, what that looks like. And I'm sure with a lot of those people who have had some success, whether in a career as a W-2, or maybe their own business owner in some other opportunity, sometimes that's gonna change and shift, like you said. So having that you as a free resource to be able to come to, and then going back to the whole idea of a lot of people don't even know what they want, but when they start talking to you, it's nice that they see, oh, now I'm coming into your world of what other options are available. Because usually we're only used to what we're used to. And I know I kind of had my hands tied on what a business looked like. Oh, you're married to it, you're this and that. But like you're saying, with when it comes to a franchise, there's a lot of elements that you can kind of tweak and choose based upon your current lifestyle right now, or what you want to look at for your future. No, I think that's pretty impressive. And what's the number of franchises and industries, did you say? Because I didn't expect those two numbers.

SPEAKER_02 9:59

Yeah, so I'm part of the franchise brokers association, and so like they've done a great job of curating and vetting good franchise ours. So in our inventory of franchise oars that have signed on with our association, I've got over 500. The number is somewhere between 500 and 600 franchises across 37 different industries, right? And so, what I love about being part of this association is a number of people at the association have vetted these franchises to make sure that they're good, responsible franchise owners. And then I've vetted them personally myself, so they've been vetted a couple of times before I even show them to any of my clients.

SPEAKER_04 10:40

Oh, nice, nice. Yeah, and so it makes sense to me. I'm guessing that you haven't obviously shown all these industries or all these franchises, but you go in as soon as you identify what somebody's looking for and would be a good fit, then you go in and do some more research just to confirm that truly is something that would be a good option.

SPEAKER_02 10:59

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, monthly I'm going to different conferences and getting on weekly calls and learning from these franchises what they offer, but I'm also diving into their franchise disclosure documents. Every franchise is required to publish a franchise disclosure document, FDD is what we like to call it. So 200 plus page legal explanation of their franchise offering. So I spend a lot of time because I mean, it's a lot, right? And it's written by a lawyer and like it's confusing. And if you don't spend time in them every day like I do, and a lot of my colleagues do, like it can be overwhelming, right? So I do spend a lot of time like learning the investment range and what it includes, and then earnings claims and looking at even like are they growing, are they shrinking, and kind of why? And do they have lawsuits against them? You know, there's so much in those documents that that you can learn to know if it's a good franchise or not. And just being part of the association, we also hear things too, right? Like we hear when there's bad franchises and they do things that they shouldn't be doing. We hear those and we can not show them to our clients because of you know being in the know and stuff. So and if you're just researching on your own, odds of you finding out a lot of that stuff on your own are probably pretty slim, right?

SPEAKER_04 12:18

Yeah, and yeah, and you brought up uh a few great topics of just the whole idea of uh working with experts or people who are consultants in one area can help so much. And I think if the first person is like a realtor or maybe a lawyer, yeah. We many times think, oh, I kind of know you know what I want in a house, this and that, but you don't think about all those ins and outs. And then, too, if you don't have the community like you do in the network of supportive either services or resources or people, then once again, you're hearing some of those things that are maybe not even in the out there in the public, or you don't even know to think to ask for those things. And I appreciate this too, and I'm gonna shift over just briefly to AI, and that even going to AI doesn't give you all the answers or from a person-to-person perspective. Yeah, and that's why I think people are also very important in these processes because AI can get so much, but they can't see that expression on your face when somebody's like, Oh, is this okay for you? And you kind of like sure. And they kind of have a weird face, but they're saying, sure. But you can pick up on those things. And I'm sure you've seen that look and you've experienced this through your own experiences of owning businesses and so forth. So I really appreciate the expertise people bring like you as a resource to help people, and like you said, a free assessment up front, or free, what did you call that? Yeah, I mean assessment or free, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:53

I provide so yeah, I have my clients take an assessment if that's what you're referring to. It's it's similar to like a disc profile.

SPEAKER_04 14:00

But it's if you could explain that, some people may not know what that is.

SPEAKER_02 14:04

It's been so long since I've taken like a disc profile, but it's like it'll help you determine like your strengths and how you approach business. The assessment itself is so great because I know your personality type in business. Are you an achiever? Are you a promoter? And then like I can even pinpoint it down to the types of systems I show you. Are you more prone to be more entrepreneurial? Do you want more legacy established franchise systems with more support? Do you want more flexibility and more freedom? It helps me with that whole process of narrowing it down, and I can even like match your results with high performers within franchise systems to know that your exact profile matches these franchises, and the top performers in these franchises have your profile to just know like that you'll be a good fit for you, a good like just natural like community, the like just all that stuff around it. So, yeah, there's a lot of great tools with that side of it.

SPEAKER_04 15:06

Yeah, no, that's pretty awesome. And I can't imagine even doing this, you know, back 30 years ago or 40 years ago and trying to consult people on these different types of things. It's like, oh my goodness. So yeah, it's pretty impressive.

SPEAKER_02 15:20

Yeah, back then it's just it was all subways and McDonald's and Wendy's, right? Right, which by the way, I don't think are great franchises. Like I would scare everybody away from those big ones, you know. Tell me more about that because I've never heard that before. You figure, oh I mean yeah, so you think about like McDonald's, for example. I mean, it's a two million dollar investment. There's typically a five plus year wait time, anyways. If you're not a franchisee already owning other McDonald's, like the odds of you getting in, they want current franchisees before they want new ones. So there's a bit of a wait time, but also like your two million dollar investment margins are super slim. McDonald's corporate owns the land that the building is on, right? And you're lucky if you're gonna make eighty, ninety thousand dollars profit per store. Interesting. I can show you a hundred and fifty, two hundred thousand dollar investment that on average makes more than the average McDonald's, and your investment is ten percent of what that McDonald's is, right? Right. Subway is a similar example where they don't even have protected territories, they reserve the right to open a corporate store or sell another franchisee location right across the street from you. Oh my gosh. You're just buying a minimum wage job when you buy a subway. You're lucky to make $40,000 profit per store. They can come and open up in your backyard. Like it's just you're buying the name, right? But those names aren't what they used to be. And there's just so much better opportunities out there where you're not gonna have to spend as much money, and your return, you're gonna get a return much faster, and your return's gonna be much better.

SPEAKER_04 17:00

Now, is that because you said they're not the same as they used to be? Is that because franchises there weren't that many of them let's say 40-50 years ago, whereas now it's maybe easier because of further down the road or technology or what it's oversold, they don't have like the they haven't modernized, I don't think.

SPEAKER_02 17:18

And there's no protection. Like there's those are some things, the red flags that you know stand out in the FDD like that, where if you're not getting a territory protection, if corporate can come in and sell or even open a store next to you or within your area, like you have to look at all of that stuff and be aware of that. And it's all in the franchise disclosure document, but if you don't know how to read it, or if you don't hire a lawyer, you know, to go through it with you, you're not gonna know that stuff ahead of time.

SPEAKER_04 17:44

Yeah, that's crazy. That's right.

SPEAKER_02 17:46

And I think that's one of the downsides of like just doing your own research, right? Like you can Google search and you can try to find, and if you do, you're typically gonna chase those big names, right? But again, you're not gonna know the things that I know because I spend every day, all day researching it and learning and going to conferences and learning those things.

SPEAKER_04 18:07

So yeah. Yeah, no, that's pretty cool. And now with the high level of service that you provide, how do you stay focused on your, you know, your vision or your values when pressure is on? So I don't know if you have some potential clients that are like, oh, I need to get something by this first quarter or whatever. So when pressure is on, how do you stay aligned with your values and what service you're offering for people?

SPEAKER_02 18:30

Yeah, so for me, like I always have what I call an integrity first uh approach. I'm not gonna show you the concepts that are gonna pay me the highest commission. Like, we're always focused on what's right for you. And for me, the reason the way I stay focused is what I want more than anything, more than like selling you that franchise is I want a call from you a year or two years from now, yeah, thanking me for what I did and telling me your success story, right? Like the last thing I want is a call from you a year from now, you telling me you're closing your doors. Right? So I get more satisfaction from that phone call that I get from you in 18 months, tell me how you're just kicking butt and you're loving life. Things are, you know, they're finally clicking and you're making money. I get more satisfaction from that call than I get from when we close the deal. Right. So, like, I think that's for me, like that's how I'm able to stay focused. It's like it's long term. I have a buddy of mine, we've been friends since we were five, and uh sold him a vending machine business like two years ago. And it took him, he bought 10 machines up front, and this particular offering comes with like location assistance and training. It's actually not a franchise, it is a business op. So it's a little bit different. There's no ongoing, there's no FDD, but we he bought 10 machines and it took about six months to get them located, and it was a little frustrating up front because but that's just the timing, right? Like it just you can't go any faster than that. But we just connected a couple months ago, and he just placed an order for another 12. And he is now at 22 machines, he's netting nearly $150,000 a year as a side gig. He kept his job. He's an auto mechanic, I think, with like Mercedes. And so he kept his job and he runs this business. He wanted something that he could run with his family. It was important to him that his wife and his kids could participate, and that's exactly what they built. The kids go and they help out and they fill the machines and they get online and they watch and they check and they can see like what machines are low, and they tell mom and dad, hey, fill these two machines. So like he's built the legacy with his kids, they're learning how to be business owners, but I love getting those phone calls saying, like, what I'm doing, like, we're killing it. Thank you so much. That means more than anything to me. So that really helps me stay focused and aligned, I think, with my values and and showing people the right concept so that I can get those phone calls, you know, down the road.

SPEAKER_04 21:11

Yeah, and I like a couple things you you talked about there. Number one is the integrity, number two is the long-term view of things instead of just the short grab and go. But I know I used to have that mentality of just kind of, oh, I just want to get paid and pay my own bills, it's all about me. Absolutely. Well, I've had to learn, nope, it's about a win-win situation and long term. And like you said, it I feel the same way when somebody has been treated well and they feel really good about what happened. That's community, that's partnering, that's considering, you know, everybody around and long term, which will keep, I think, most of us honest and toward the integrity. And then the other piece of that is just the whole idea of family, which I feel is so important, which a lot of people may not realize. If because if they're used to a W-2 working at their own job, coming home, and then that's when they see family typically, but not realizing there's so many aspects, like you mentioned, first thing when you got on when we started recording, which was to be able to have that time flexibility, not just financial flexibility or freedom, but having that time flexibility and freedom, and doing it with your family. So you're together at times and working together in a kind of a fun, joyful aspect of things.

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SPEAKER_04 22:31

Oh no. Yeah.

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SPEAKER_04 22:35

So oh, I'm sorry?

SPEAKER_01 22:37

No, no, I love it. Yeah. That's oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 22:41

Yeah, I think that's really cool. Now, have there ever been any bold moves you've made or tough decisions where you felt uncertain? And then what did you learn from that?

SPEAKER_02 22:54

Yeah, for me, like looking back at my journey, I think I don't come from a family of entrepreneurs. Um, they're all W-2 guys, right? Like my dad, my grandparents, everybody's just always worked a job. You know, I was the first one in my family to go get a degree and got a job right out of college, a really good job, I was making good money. You know, for me, it was taking that leap and leaving a good W-2 for the promise of what the businesses could do for me. Right. So it's been eight years now that I've been fully self-employed, and I haven't always made the best choices doing it, right? Like I, you know, as I did it, I didn't have an NBA, I didn't have any experience, any family members that were business owners. I just I believed in myself and I felt like it was right for me and my family and took the leap. And you know, I've started a few I bought a franchise that I regret buying. I didn't work with a broker, I bought a gym, I wish I wouldn't have. It wasn't a good alignment for me. But that was before I became a broker, before I knew there were even brokers out there. Um but yeah, I mean for me, it was leaving a good job, steady income, health insurance to chase a dream of financial and time freedom.

SPEAKER_04 24:14

Yeah. No, I like that. But it sounds like to me, after eight years, you've learned a few things because you were willing to take that leap or a step toward that dream. So I think that's important.

SPEAKER_02 24:26

There's a certain amount of fear, I think, that comes with doing your own thing and leaving that safety, right? And I see it in every one of my clients. There's always that time where that fear starts creeping in, and you know, you have to make that decision. Are you gonna like are you gonna face that fear? Are you gonna challenge yourself and jump in, or are you gonna stay where you're comfortable? You know, and yeah, and yeah, so I found great satisfaction in in having faith in myself and my abilities and pushing through the fear and doing it.

SPEAKER_04 24:56

Yeah, and developing that confidence. I think that's a powerful thing, what you said, just having faith in yourself, being willing to go after the dreams, because otherwise, if we're always sitting back and not really looking at what's possible, that kind of steals your energy, your hope. And then what kind of inspiration is that for everybody around you? But the power of having a great community, like you said, when most everybody has that. Ooh, am I making the right decision? Because things are a little scary right now with whatever's going on. But to have a good source of community around you, people like you, experts, and also people saying, Hey, some of this stuff is normal with what you're going through right now, whether it's because of the economy or X, Y, and Z, to be able to have somebody who's gone further down the road to be able to look back and say, Hey, let's just figure this out, let's keep moving forward if you're willing to do that. But hey, this is nothing new. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:55

And that's a great part of franchise ownership too, is a community that comes with it, right? Like you want to start a roofing business, right? Like you do your own startup, you're kind of just doing it on your own, you're figuring it out as you go. If you do it as within a franchise organization, like there's a hundred other owners that did the same thing as you, and they're all on that path. Like, some of 10 years in, some are five years in, and some are right where you are. You know, you've got this community to pull from, and franchisees love collaborating and love getting together and helping each other and seeing each other succeed, you know. So, like, even often I see it without the franchise or's help. The franchisees will get together and they'll network and they'll share best practices. And so you have the support of the franchise or you have their training and their systems and their marketing and their experience, and then you've got the collaborative effort of all of the individual owners and all of their individual territories also cheering for each other and helping each other and sharing best practices, and it's the best of both worlds. Like you're in business for yourself, right? But not by yourself because you've got this huge community of support that comes along with it.

SPEAKER_04 27:06

No, I think that's fantastic. That's good. So tell me again, just to recap again, what are people who would come to you? What are they looking for? Some different possibilities.

SPEAKER_02 27:18

What are they looking for? They're looking for a lot of times a change. They're looking for a freedom, they're looking for better income, they're looking for control of their life and of their future, right? So a lot of times they just they're burnt out. Most of my clients are either executives or they're veterans, right? I see a lot of veterans get into franchise franchise ownership.

SPEAKER_04 27:42

And why veterans? That's interesting.

SPEAKER_02 27:44

Well, veterans, they're one out of every seven franchise location now is owned by a veteran. But but the statistic, like that's not one out of every US resident is a veteran, it's a lot less than that, right? Um veterans are used to they're high-performing individuals, used to following a system, used to following like very regimented, like you do this, and you're gonna be a great soldier or whatever, right? And they just fit so well into franchise systems because they know how to lead, you know, they know how to follow systems, and it's almost an extension of their service. They just plug and play into this new business model and off they go. But they've built leadership skills in the military and they've learned how to follow systems. And that's really what it comes down to in franchise ownership. If you can follow the system and go through the training, you know, I think you need two things. You follow the system, follow the brand guidelines, and then you need to make sure that you're well capitalized as well. Those two things, like you'll be a successful franchise owner.

SPEAKER_04 28:48

Oh, that's fantastic. Wow, Rich, I appreciate all you sharing all these things. I know I learned a lot through this, as even though we've been business owners in our family for 40 plus years, 46 years this year, since 1980, that yeah, that it's pretty impressive to realize there's people out there willing to help people get into business. Because it seems like that would just be you know nearly impossible to find somebody who's an expert and to be able to get some great advice before actually, you know, pulling making that all go off and finding a good business. So I appreciate your expertise, your knowledge, and your willingness to share everything you did today.

SPEAKER_02 29:28

Yeah, thank you so much for having a good conversation. Enjoyed it.

SPEAKER_04 29:33

Yes, you're welcome. You're welcome. Now, how can people best reach you and connect with you?

SPEAKER_02 29:38

Well, yeah, so my website is franchiseheroes.co. You can also shoot me a text, call me, 602-7034814. And then my email as well. So Rich at quantumfranchisegroup.com. Any of those three ways you can reach out to me. I'm also on LinkedIn. Just look up Rich Potter, LinkedIn, it's easy to find me there as well.

SPEAKER_04 30:03

Okay, so just Rich Potter on LinkedIn there.

SPEAKER_02 30:07

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 30:08

Okay, awesome, awesome, thank you. And I want to thank you, the listener, for listening into this episode of Unapologetic Leadership where integrity is so important and key, having a long-term focus and vision, and remember to pursue your dreams. There's a risk in pursuing dreams, but there's also a risk sitting right where you are and not really looking for that choice of freedom, of time and money. So thank you for listening, and we'll see you in the next episode.

SPEAKER_00 30:43

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