Values, Discipline, Clean Living, and Sports Education with Victor Bergonzoli

What if your greatest competitive advantage isn't your talent... but your discipline?

In this inspiring episode of Unapologetic Leadership, Cory Dunham sits down with Victor Bergonzoli, Co-Founder and CEO of SportsEdTV, to discuss the principles that create lasting success in business, leadership, health, and life. From building one of the world's leading free sports education platforms to leading with integrity through life's toughest moments, Victor shares why values, discipline, and service have become the foundation of everything he does.

Victor explains how SportsEdTV is transforming sports education by providing free access to world-class coaching while helping athletes, coaches, and parents develop healthy habits, proper techniques, and a lifelong love of sport. The conversation explores the importance of community, mentorship, and creating meaningful human connections in a world increasingly dominated by technology and social media.

Drawing from his experiences growing up in Switzerland, serving as a Swiss Army captain, speaking five languages, and living around the world, Victor shares powerful lessons on resilience, mental toughness, cultural awareness, and why discipline is a daily choice rather than a personality trait. He also reveals how changing his nutrition, eliminating sugar and alcohol, and committing to simple, consistent habits transformed his health and dramatically improved his overall well-being.

Whether you're looking to become a stronger leader, improve your health, or build greater discipline, this episode offers practical wisdom you can apply immediately.

About Victor Bergonzoli

Victor Bergonzoli is the Co-Founder and CEO of SportsEdTV, a leading global sports education platform, and has spent more than 30 years in the sports technology and media industries. As CEO, he has helped raise more than $7 million in equity capital, grown the platform to 3 million monthly unique visitors in under 18 months, and built a worldwide audience spanning virtually every country.

Victor's expertise includes sports technology, market research, business development, information technology, and strategic partnerships. He is also the Co-Founder of the International Sports Technology Association, a nonprofit organization that brings together leaders from sports organizations, leagues, universities, engineering, coaching, sports science, and technology to advance innovation and education throughout the industry.

His mission is simple: leverage technology to make world-class sports education accessible to everyone while inspiring healthier lifestyles, stronger communities, and lifelong learning.

Connect with Victor

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bergonzoli/
Learn more about SportsEdTV at https://sportsedtv.com

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:01

Welcome to Unapologetic Leadership. If you felt stressed, overwhelmed, wrestling with the imposter syndrome, wondering if you're just not good enough, then this podcast is for you. So here's your host, Corey Dunham.

SPEAKER_01 0:21

Welcome to this episode of Unapologetic Leadership. I have Victor Bergenzoli, who's the co-founder and CEO of Sports at TV, which is the leading platform for sports education. And he's been in sports technology for the past 25 years. And he's originally from Switzerland. And oh yes, he has a beautiful head of hair. He's a man after my own heart. Victor, welcome.

SPEAKER_05 0:49

Thank you, Corey, and thank you for having me. And thank you for having the same taste as I of the hairstyle.

SPEAKER_01 0:56

You're welcome. You're welcome. Yeah, for me, when I get up, it's funny because it's five minutes of shampooing, cream rinse, drying it, only five seconds. We're all good. And styling, of course, if you could. Yes.

SPEAKER_05 1:09

Stay on an hairstylist every month.

SPEAKER_01 1:12

Yes, that too. That too. So yeah, welcome again and uh share with what exactly do you do? How do you impact the world and how do you serve people?

SPEAKER_05 1:21

Sure. So, you know, I believe that sports is essential in everybody's life. I believe that staying healthy is important. And I've been in sports for 25 years, as you mentioned. And a few years ago, a partner of mine contacted me and said, you know, we need to do something to help everybody learn the right technique, have having a healthier lifestyle, and helping coaches, parents, and athletes in general. And the main challenge was people were going on Instagram, YouTube, TikTok, and they found tons of videos and explaining how to play golf, how to play tennis, how to play pickleball and soccer and whatever. But you didn't know if it was good or not. So we decided we are going to set up a resource that's going to make sure that the best in the world are teaching on this resource, very much like a masterclass, but it's going to be free. We wanted that to be free so everybody can access it. That's how sports ATV was born. And that's really cool. Learning the sports they love in a safe and right way.

SPEAKER_01 2:47

Awesome. No, that's really cool. And that's, I think sounds like a such a huge goal if you talk about how are we going to do this for free for everybody when there's so many resources out there, and how do you build your brand, how do you stay viable in all that. So that's excellent.

SPEAKER_05 3:04

Thank you. Well, yeah, I'm lucky because my partner is an amazing branding guy. He's actually releasing a book called The Long Game. And he worked at one of the major advertising agencies back then called Satchin Satchi. And he is phenomenal. And when you do something for free, you need to have somebody paying for it. So what we do is we basically link people who play sport to brands. Brands, you know, take the tennis world, for instance. People playing tennis have a higher income, they go to country clubs. You may have brands interested in saying, Oh, how can I connect with these people in a very thoughtful way and not being seen as an advertiser? If you help me play better, if you help my kids play soccer better or basketball, I'm going to remember the brand who was helping me. Like, I'm sure you're using the same toothpaste as you use when you were a kid at your house. You remember the toothpaste your parents had. Parents are going to be even more loyal if a brand is helping them, having their kids get a scholarship or have a successful high school career. That's basically how we make money. Is we bring brands in the equation, we tell them we have this audience, and you know, we incorporate them in the story. We just don't put the logo or simple advertising like many do. We really integrate the brand in the story.

SPEAKER_01 4:47

Yeah, no, that's fantastic. And I know when we talked offline before, you had spoken about it's important to have a good niche or a good niche, and also have engaged followers, so be persistent and creating basically a community is what I'm hearing. And interaction. So tell me more about that.

SPEAKER_05 5:04

Yeah, we have over 1.1 million followers now, and they all came organically. We didn't pay for followers. And well, it's a niche without being a niche. I mean, you have billions of people who play sports in the world. Over two billion people in an organized way. And I believe the more AI is going to take over jobs, people should have more free time. And I always tell people, you owe it to your family, you owe it to your colleagues, you owe it to your investors if you're an entrepreneur to live in a healthy body. We have only one body. You know, we live every day and we die once. You want to, I always tell people I want to die healthy. I don't want to be sick. I'm trying to be as healthy as possible, as long as I can, for my kids and for my grandchildren one day. And I think it's essential. And when you look at the data in the US, 45% of the people are obese. 45%. And that creates it's not a question of looking good or bad, it creates health problems, diabetes. Yes. And with diabetes, you have an amputation. I had a dad, the father who had diabetes, and it was not fun. You know, you have to take I think it's so important, and it's so important to do it right and to do it well. So that's the reason why we did that's our mission, is to really help everybody and help kids and adults. You know, we launched a pickable library, and it's a fantastic sport for many, many older people, young people too, but older people who want to stay healthy, want to make friends. Who I've seen people who saved their lives through pickable. I spoke to a vet, a vet who was telling me I was about to commit suicide because I had no friends, I was alone, Miami Beach, started playing pickable, met the community, made friends, and that's literally what he told us. He said it saved my life.

SPEAKER_01 7:10

Yes, I think that's amazing, and that's a huge thing. Community, because I talked about, you know, 50 years ago, back in the 80s or 70s or 80s, that's what it was about. There's a community, and um, and obviously before that too. It was about community, the support it takes a village to raise a kid, and many small community communities in the past. If somebody was hurting a family member or a house down the road, whether it's food or being able to pay for something, people would help out in the area and everybody would take care of everybody because it it takes a lot. But as we've moved forward into this higher technology culture, then less people are in have been engaging, they've been doing more from the other side of a screen, and people just don't have that connection, like you're saying, with this vet. And that's huge for, like you said, potentially saving people from suicide and really feeling like they're alone and being by themselves. So having that connection piece is huge, and that's where I focus more developing trust, developing connection, support, and it's creating value both ways. It's a win-win and not just a one-way situation. So that's excellent.

SPEAKER_05 8:25

Look at the blue zone projects. You know, this project where they looked at white people live longer in some places. The diet is important, where you live is important, but one big element is being part of something. So you go to these small villages in Sardinia and they play bocce balls, they get together in the city center and they talk and they know that they are not alone. And one of the zones is in California, where the pickleball community is big. Because people are like, okay, I look forward to doing something, and I can be 85, I can be 95, I can play, I can have fun, and that's so essential. But you know, and eating right as well, you know, not eating garbage and processed food, and so we educate people in this sense, and we wanted to do it in a way that is very safe, with not all these ads that you see. If I go on, and I love YouTube, but if I go on YouTube and I'm served ads all the time that have nothing to do with what I was looking for, and on top of that, I'm watching one video, and the next video has nothing to do with it. We wanted to do something where I'm on Sports Ed TV, I watch tennis, these are the tennis videos I'm gonna watch, one after the other, and I'm focused on my mission for that time being.

SPEAKER_01 9:49

Yep. No, I love that. Yeah, the whole idea of focusing on mission and the whole idea too. I I just thought of multi-generational when you think about pickleball, because it it can bring all different types from 10 years old or whatever, on up to, like you said, 80, 90 years old. And if people can move reasonably, it's open to everyone.

SPEAKER_05 10:09

Yeah, tennis. I started playing tennis a few years ago. Growing up, I was a weightlifter, I was a competitive weightlifter in Switzerland, and I was in the top 10. It was only 10 of us, so don't get excited. But I like those odds though. I started playing tennis, and I'm horrible at tennis, but I joined a league called the Gladiator, and it's a good name because you really go into the arena. And I'm playing people who are 20 to 30 years younger. And we are 3-0, 3-5, so it's not very high level. But I can tell you the pleasure I have when I beat them. It's you know, you feel great and you laugh, and you meet with people who are younger, and not in a business setting, but just on the court as a gladiator. Yeah, then they ask, hey, how old are you? And you tell them, and they're like, Oh man, how do you do that? Well, I follow the principles we teach, and it's just great.

SPEAKER_01 11:13

That's awesome. I love that. Yeah, yeah. Nothing like being in an arena, whether it's tennis, pickleball, or I don't really care. But the fact if you beat some younger whippersnappers, you're like, Yeah, yeah. Okay, maybe don't get in their face like that, but you keep, you know, it's in our head, we're always 30.

SPEAKER_05 11:32

That's I I keep telling that. And then if you can prove it on the court, it's fantastic, and you have fun, and you know, it's human human connections is so important, and you cannot do it. You know, here we are in a zoom, and I love Zoom in a way that you know it's we can communicate, and I know it went very big during COVID, but there is nothing that replaces a real you know, meeting, meeting in person and face to face, and having something that we can do together is much stronger than this fake social media that we see every day where everybody's happy, everybody's beautiful, they use filter. You don't know what is real or not. And we were talking about that before is I'm gonna have an avatar soon that's gonna hopefully not look like me, better than me, and speak like me. I mean, meta decided to patent a you when you die. Learning how you post, and your avatar or your afterlife persona is gonna keep posting after you die.

unknown 12:42

Wow.

SPEAKER_05 12:42

It's like there's no more death. At least not where people after I die. I'm annoying them today, but not after I die.

SPEAKER_01 12:53

Yeah, yeah. At least there's no death to your persona, you know. But yeah, yeah, talk about a different way to clone someone, it's not quite the same way we've been used to hearing about.

SPEAKER_05 13:04

So that's yeah, it's a digital clone, and it's happening.

SPEAKER_01 13:08

Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's crazy. And I know you talk, you've told me earlier offline that you speak in different languages. You also were in the military, you went to very tough schools growing up. How did you know do those things or speaking multiple languages? Tell me about that, but then how to being in tough schools and military, how did that create some of the life or some of the values that you have today?

SPEAKER_05 13:35

So I grew up speaking French in Switzerland and Hungarian because my mom is Hungarian. Speaking of a tough language, that's a tough language. In Switzerland, you cross a border on the south and you're in Italy, you go to the west, you are in France, you go north, you are in Germany. So you you learn you start learning German at a pretty young age as well, as a French-speaking guy, and the German-speaking guys or Italian-speaking guys learn the other national language. So there is no Swiss language. So we are lucky in this way. It's like, you know, when you reach 12, you speak several languages, and English comes very quickly because English has become now the easiest language that everybody is learning. Really? Well, yes, I speak five languages, and when you speak a language, that's the reason why I tell people using a translator is nice, but when you learn a language, you learn a culture, the way of saying things is different in different languages. Like I lived in India for a few years, and the concept of possession, I have a book in Hindi, you would say, you know, the book is with me. The book is with me now, but it might be with you later. It's the possession is a little bit different, and so you learn these nuances in different languages that makes the world an amazing place. And yeah, it's every word is not trend. You can translate every word, but some some words are not we cannot translate them, and it's very difficult to find you know the same word in a different language. So that and interestingly, if you speak two languages, and I don't know if you do, but if you have a stroke, god forbid, you recover much quicker. Yeah, if you're bilingual. So I tell people if you don't speak two languages at least, if you're righty, use your left hand to brush your teeth, to play tennis, to play games, because that's gonna help as well. That's on the language side, and I love multi multicultural environment. I lived in Asia for a few years, I've been in the US for 25 years, I'm from Switzerland, my native language is French, but the Swiss people are not French. So that makes you know an amazing way of learning how to communicate with different people and accept accepting as well how they may answer when they are not on time. Do you accept it or not? If I'm not on time in Switzerland, it's very offensive. If I'm not on time in India, it has a different meaning. And that's one side. Then in Switzerland, everybody had to do the army, it's very much like in Israel. You know, we have at twenty at 20, the men have to go to the army. And I did a little bit more. I became a company commander in the army, a Swiss army captain. So I spent two years between the age of 20 to 30, then after I moved out of the country. But yeah, it's a unique experience to learn about reaching your limits under stress, and you realize that you never reach your limit. Yeah, what is that? We have to finish when you do when you go to the office or school, you have to walk for 100k and you have to finish in 24 hours, 100 kilometers, 60 plus miles, 62 miles. And when you reach the last K, the last kilometer, you have the feeling that wow, I'm so glad because I could not do one step more than this. Yeah, if it was 150, the last kilometer would be the toughest. So it's amazing that the mind controls everything else. You can I learned that you can walk while you sleep. Literally, I was able to walk while sleeping. Can be asleep for you know, you just grab the bag of your comrade in ahead of you, and you just close your eyes and you dream.

SPEAKER_03 17:44

Oh, interesting.

SPEAKER_05 17:46

It's you know, it's the power of the brain. But you have to trust your comrade that he doesn't sleep and fall off a cliff, but it's amazing. Oh, you know, it's amazing experiences.

SPEAKER_01 17:57

Yeah, I was gonna say that's the first time I've ever heard somebody said you can sleep while you're walking, but I can see that if you close your eyes, you're actually cutting off certain input, and therefore your mind gets somewhat of a break or a different way of processing things and what it's intaking and maybe recharging with. So that's very interesting.

SPEAKER_05 18:18

You know, dolphins dolphins have learned to sleep half the brain at a time.

SPEAKER_01 18:24

Oh, interesting.

SPEAKER_05 18:25

So dolphins otherwise they would drown if they fell went under the ocean under the water for more than I don't know how many minutes. Yeah, half the brain is sleeping, and the other one is just enough to resurface, and then they do the opposite.

SPEAKER_01 18:40

But yeah, that'd be tough for some of the guys I grew up with because they only had half a brain.

SPEAKER_02 18:48

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 18:50

No, that's very interesting. A lot of cool things about this, just all the different things. You're talking about your mindset, also your body, eating, eating well enough. And I know that's something you mentioned earlier about diabetes, which I deal with the low end of diabetes on medication and really my nutrition and how I eat, because I exercise quite a bit, but but dealing with that possibly from genetics and also to the way I've poorly eaten for quite some time, just thinking, oh look, I'm not gaining weight, I must be healthy. Well, internally, no, wasn't healthy. And like you say, it can there's a lot of I've even talked to nurses that didn't in different areas that didn't understand about diabetes. And basically it's like sugar, your sugar in your blood cannot be processed of the glucose, and therefore it creates like sand in your blood, thus restricting flow of your blood, which is why people end up getting amputations on their extremities, their feet, their hands, all of that stuff. And some nurses I talked to, like, oh, why is that? Why is it important for diabetes? Or why is diabetes one of the, I think it is the leading cause for blindness, is my understanding. Yeah. Not sure if that's still the case, but I didn't know that forever. And I'm like, what's the big deal with diabetes? And come to find out I've been and had a private pilot's license for the last 34 or 35 years, and not realizing, ooh, if I don't get my diabetes managed and taken care of, the Federal Aviation Administration frowns upon blind pilots or ones, you know, it's difficult if you have don't have your extremities, but basically the blindness piece of like, oh my gosh, that's this is not good.

SPEAKER_05 20:31

We don't want you as a blind pilot.

SPEAKER_01 20:33

No, no, no, you do not, because it'll be like me flying while my eyes are closed, like you sleeping while you're walking. And I'd rather have you sleeping while you're walking, which is an awesome thing. That's yeah, but no, yeah, it's the health is such a huge thing. And once again, what we put in our mouth, how we fuel ourselves there is you know, number one. Is it garbage, like you said, eating garbage food, or are we fueling ourselves with healthy fuel?

SPEAKER_05 21:02

Yeah, I wrote a book that uh released recently called The Wine Your Body Reset. I went to the beach and somebody took a picture. I looked at the picture, I said, That's not me. And I thought, yeah, well, you know, the picture was not photoshopped. And I had 30 pounds of bad weight, which a guy with you know 5'11, 6'4, it's not too much, but I thought I was just strong. So I gave myself one year, I said now I'm gonna apply that. That was two years ago. I'm gonna apply what Sportshead TV contributors write in all our blogs, nutrition blogs, and so I decided to do something very simple, and it's based on discipline, not even counting my calories, but focusing on protein and cutting sugar and alcohol. And I dropped 30 pounds of fat in one year, you know. I want To get almost a six pack back and not being crazy about it.

SPEAKER_04 22:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 22:05

And then I had everybody asking me, What did you do? And I said, Okay, I'm gonna write a little book. It's on Amazon Kindle, it's called The One Year Body Reset. But I feel so much better. I sleep better, I never in pain. I had pre-diabetes at one time in my life. My blood sugar level is completely below 100. Uh, my triglyceride level is amazing. Uh, I did a heart scan because I one of my brothers had a heart attack six months ago. He's good, but he had a heart attack. Okay, there's a lot of genetics involved. But my heart is my arteries are very clean. And I said I owe it to you know my investors, because I have investors in sports at TV, I owe it to my family, to my colleagues, and I'm very disciplined. And it's that's what I said in the book. You just if you don't think about it, you make it part of your routine. If you start your day saying, I need to put my walk in, I need to put my steps, I need to go to the gym, and you make sure that everything is in your calendar, not uh, oh, if I have time, I'll do it. Number of times I hear I didn't have time today to work out. I'm like, if you get sick and you have a heart attack, you're not gonna have time for anything else. And I always tell people cemeteries are full of indispensable people, you know, and you are here for the long run. You never know, you can be hit by a bus, but yeah, otherwise, you know, I've seen a lot of my friends having cancer and other diseases, which you cannot really stop if you have a bad gene. But if you don't smoke, if you try to limit your drinking, you know, I stopped alcohol as well. I put that in the book. I was never a big drinker, you know, but I stopped for one year. I said, not a drop, so no added sugar, and sugar is a big sugar is a big culprit. But it's a question of being disciplined. That's what I learned in the army, and maybe Swiss people are a little bit more disciplined than others, but it's a question of saying I'm setting rules and just follow the rules. Yeah, and then it becomes it's like a drill, you don't even think about it, you just do it. And I have business lunches, you know, when I travel, I just know what I can eat, I don't count my calories, and I dropped 30 pounds in one year, and I maintained it and I feel great. Excellent, you know, and I and my blood sugar level was over 120. And I'm just if you measure yours, you know, and it's way below 100, and not doing anything else than just cutting the bad food, you know, the bread, the white bread, the pasta, the rice, and things that we don't know is sugar that we believe we need we need it, but we don't.

SPEAKER_01 25:14

So a lot of the fast food, which the convenience food, if you want to call it, yeah, it really gets you because it's like it's so simple, it's so cheap, it's so tasty. But a lot of ingredients and how it's made is just not the processed food, you know, the food that you buy that is ready.

SPEAKER_05 25:32

I I love fat, I love butter, I don't eat too much, but I like you know, I give oil, I I eat cheese. I mean, you cannot tell a Swiss guy not to eat cheese. I eat cheese every day. I really, I really do. But yeah, again, you know, uh, I don't eat like uh a monster.

SPEAKER_01 25:52

Um yeah, so it's about balance. Yeah, awesome. Yeah, I'm gonna one last question I had for you is how do you stay aligned with your values when either there's pressure on or you've come up against uncertainty, or it's just the stressors of life or business, but how do you stay aligned with your values? Because I know when we spoke before, you talked about it's important to have integrity and serve other people. So, how do you handle that when things get really stressful? And that's many times when people kind of go off the train tracks and get worse in whatever they're doing.

SPEAKER_05 26:32

If you know your values and you stick to them, whatever lives throw at you, you'll react differently. I I mean, I you know, I was held at gunpoint a few months ago.

SPEAKER_02 26:47

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_05 26:48

Yes, in Miami, and I reacted pretty well. I mean, maybe because of my training, but not panicking is one of my strengths. Yeah, you know, and I always try to look at things, I try to get ready for the worst. I've always been an overthinker, so that's that's a problem I'm dealing with. You know, I'm always thinking too much, and I speak to my colleague and friend, and he's like, no, I always think about the best outcome, and I'm always trying to think about what if this and this and this and this happened, and that's tyric. But at the same time, I'm always being ready when bad things happen, and bad things are never as bad as what others are suffering. So I always put things in perspective. I look at our lives, I look at you know, having health, I have wonderful kids, family, wife, good friends, and I'm like, you know what? When I look at what's happening in the world, people are dying, people are suffering, you have people being killed and raped, and these small problems are pretty little as compared to what a lot of people so I can relate. So that helps me a lot. But my discipline and I usually don't lie. If I lie, is for the benefit of someone, you don't want to hurt. Sometimes we say a good lie is better than uh a bad truth, because you don't want to hurt someone. But 99% of the time, I don't lie, I don't like about who I am, I don't like lie. If we play tennis, I'm not gonna say the ball is out if the ball is in. That's who I am. And the beauty is when you don't when you have this kind of life, nobody can blackmail you on anything. It's easy because I'm telling people try to find things about me. I was reading, somebody said if you're not in the Epstein file, you're a loser. I don't remember who said that. It's a woman who said that.

SPEAKER_01 28:47

She was very say that say that one more time.

SPEAKER_05 28:50

If you are not in the Epstein files, you're a loser. That's what she said. Because meaning that Epstein knew everybody in the world that was important, and if you're not in the files, that means that you are not important enough. And I said, I'm happy to be a loser. Because I don't want to be in the Epstein files, I want to be in the good files, I want to be, you know, and when I when you look at all these celebrities from the Didi scandal, yeah, and all the Epsteins, it's just plain disgusting. And these are the the real criminals that we should go after. So when you have integrity, when you're like nobody can start showing pictures of me doing something I don't want my kids to know, yeah, you have a better life. It's very simple, you know. Yeah, if everything you do you can tell your mom, or you can tell your kids, and they are not outraged, that means you're living a good life. It's being at peace.

SPEAKER_01 29:58

Yeah, no, that's fantastic. Well, thank you so much, Victor, for being here. I appreciate you sharing so much about your business, your personal life, mindset, nutrition, and everything else you shared. So thank you very much for being here. Can you can you let everyone know what's the best way to stay in contact with you or get connected with you?

SPEAKER_05 30:19

Sure. My name is Victor Bergenzoli. I'm on LinkedIn. So just go on LinkedIn, connect with me. I'm trying to be good. If you message me on LinkedIn, I will answer. Try to message me without trying to sell me something. Just you know, and say hi. And then, you know, once we pass the first LinkedIn, I share easily my cell phone and my email. I try to help people when I can. It's uh that's the easiest way. But thank you for having me. It was a real pleasure, Corey.

SPEAKER_01 30:50

Yes, you're welcome. You're welcome. And I want to thank you for listening to this episode of Unapologetic Leadership, where Victor shared it's important to really have values and integrity so you can sleep at night. And when you have that, that's the coolest part about integrity is that integrity is a self-serving value, but it also serves others too. So it's a great win-win principle. And also too, to make sure that your life, your business, your nutrition, and health are all intentional. And you can make those choices for yourself instead of someone else determining how you choose to live. So be intentional. And of course, community, family values, and looking yourself in the mirror, and whether it's your mother, kids, or grandmother, if you can tell them something that you've done and how you've served somebody else and they don't get disgusted at you, realize that's a good thing. And then ultimately, be disciplined in your life. You only have one of them unless Meta ends up copywriting your life after you die and they keep your persona going. But have discipline for your life because you've only got one of them and live it to your best of your abilities. Thank you, and we'll see you in the next episode.

SPEAKER_00 32:18

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