The Dark Territory
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The Dark Territory
The Fog Takes Revenge On The Weather Man
A campfire. A legend. A town that built its future on a crime it hoped the sea would keep. We dive into John Carpenter’s The Fog with a beam from the lighthouse, tracing how Antonio Bay’s centennial celebration collides with a sentient weather front and the ghosts it carries. From the opening yarn by a salty storyteller to the neon-glow mist stalking the harbor, we follow the breadcrumbs—red-lit trawlers, busted shop fronts, and an ominous journal hidden in a church wall—until the whole town feels like a seance.
We unpack Carpenter’s signatures: a returning ensemble, sly nods to Lovecraft and pulp horror, and a minimal synth score that beats like surf. Stevie Wayne’s late-night broadcast becomes the episode’s spine; her voice maps the fog’s approach as phones fail and power grids blink out. Meanwhile, Nick and Elizabeth piece together the Seagrass ghost ship and a morgue surprise that makes the temperature drop in more ways than one. Father Malone’s confession reframes the weather as a debt collector, and that gold-forged cross turns into the heaviest prop in the film—a literal burden of stolen wealth lifted into the dark.
What makes The Fog endure isn’t just the hooks and silhouettes but the way it asks whether a place can be haunted by what it celebrates. We debate A-tier vs B-tier Carpenter, why implied violence often hits harder than gore, and how geography—lighthouse to church, harbor to hills—tightens suspense. Then we ride the finale to its white-hot glow and razor-sharp stinger that completes the tally the town tried to ignore. If coastal horror, practical effects, and moral reckoning are your thing, you’ll feel the pull of this one.
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SPEAKER_01:Yes. Welcome to the Dark Territory Podcast. I'm Sean. I'm Brandon. Each week we dive into the movies, music, and books that fuel our passion for everything dark, mysterious, and strange. Today we're gonna discuss John Carpenter's classic ghost story.
SPEAKER_00:The Fog.
SPEAKER_01:This uh this movie has a fucking great intro. Uh oh, one of the best. Any movie that starts off with a campfire and some old salty dude just talking about you know ghost stories and shit. It's fucking great. That's old school right there. Hell yeah.
SPEAKER_02:When we were kids, that's what that's what we did for fun. We told ghost stories. Yeah. Sat around a fire and you know. Parents, you know, they used to let us do weird shit and like hanging out with old people like that, you know. He was probably drunk, you know, an old salty sea crab. Oh yeah. Going to tell you a story.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. In in the shots of the kids, they show the oh, they were terrified. Yeah, dude, they were into it, man. They're just like completely drawn into the story.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Tale as old as time.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:So uh who's that actor? John Houseman. John Houseman. He was a classic, uh, classically trained actor for uh and director. I think that was his last role, too, before he died. Really?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. What uh what were some of the other films?
SPEAKER_02:Uh off off the top of my head, I don't know. I'd have to look it up. But he was around a long time. I think he did a lot of stuff with like Cecil B. DeMille and like classic directors, you know.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Nice. Yeah, so we basically get this uh this old is what you say he's a sailor.
SPEAKER_02:Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah. Like a sea captain. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Mr.
SPEAKER_02:Oh salty sea dog.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Yeah, he had the look. He had the good the kind of 12 o'clock shit.
SPEAKER_02:He had the captain's hat, you know, it was all grizzled looking.
SPEAKER_01:It's like, hell yeah. Hell yeah. Uh, I think his character was Mr. Machin. Yeah, Mr.
SPEAKER_02:Macon.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, Macon.
SPEAKER_02:Uh that's he's named after a uh a uh a Weird Tales author, Arthur Macon. Oh, okay. Yeah. I didn't know that. Yeah. He uh Carpenter was really into like Lovecraft and all the like weird tales, like pulp stuff he came up with in like all the old EC horror comics. So yeah. With like character names. Like uh there's one character named uh that Tom Atkins plays named Nick Castle. Nick Castle was a guy that played uh Michael Myers in the original. Oh, I didn't know that and then um uh there's another character, uh Charles Cypher's character is named Dan O'Bannon. Yeah, yeah. We all know Dan O'Bannon. Yeah, Charles Charles uh Charles Cyphers he played uh Sheriff Lee Brackett in Halloween. So I think I think Carpenter was trying to make like an ensemble cast to uh use in all of his movies. I see. Kind of like how what David Lynch did. Yeah, yeah. Once you once you find because John Waters used fucking like all the same people they were his friends, but yeah, you know he was my little circus freaks.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I'm just gonna put them in every movie.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah. Well, John Waters was kind of a freaky dude anyway.
SPEAKER_01:Uh yes, he was, yeah. Uh is John Waters still alive. He is. Oh, okay. And he still has that same kind of pencil mustache. I don't think that fucker for like eons. Yeah, yeah, man. I hope he's buried with it. It looks great. Yeah. Uh so Mr. Macon, he uh he's you know sitting around this campfire, and these kids are all just kind of leaning in and yeah, and it's it's not quite 12 o'clock midnight yet. You know, it's not the witching hour.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah. And there's a there that's uh the town that they live in, it's called Antonio Bay, and there's they're celebrating their centennial. Yes, a hundred years ago, to the very day that the town was founded. Yes. Now there's he's talking in the in his story that he's reciting to these kids, he's talking about the wreck of the Elizabeth Dane. Yes. And that was on the exact same night that the town was founded. Right. Now, some nefarious stuff happens with that that we don't know yet.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, all we know about is the shipwreck happened under mysterious circumstances.
SPEAKER_02:And it happens in a fog bank. Yeah. And the people of the town um they set a trap basically for spoiler alert. We spoil all our movies, so you know get used to it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Go watch it right now and then come back and finish this episode. Stevie Wayne. That's right. It's like honey, man.
SPEAKER_02:Oh fucking Adrian Barbeau.
SPEAKER_01:I thought I thought I was listening to a sex line when I first heard her voice. I was like, I was at attention right away. I was like, holy shit, who is that? I didn't even think we were gonna see her face. I thought it she was just uh a voice, you know, uh a detached voice on the radio. That would have been cool.
SPEAKER_02:You know, that would have been a good concept. Yeah, but I'm kind of glad we because Jamie Lee Curtis is on the poster, but Adrienne Barbeau is supposed to be the uh the the main which yeah, you see a lot more of her than you do um you know Jamie Lee. Yeah, I mean, you know, The Fog, The Fog's a great movie, and we're gonna we're gonna have fun reviewing it, but there's Carpenter has tiers for his films. There's A tier carpenter and there's B tier carpenter. Not to say that the B tier movies aren't bad, but to me, A tier carpenter is of course Halloween. Halloween, yeah. The thing um in the mouth of madness. Excuse me. Yeah. Um yeah, the thing in the mouth of madness. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I I I think the thing is probably still my favorite of his. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:But for a ghost story, fucking the vlog is great.
SPEAKER_01:Absolutely.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, and we're suckers for ghost stories in haunted house movies, so yeah. We're gonna do uh Legend of Hellhouse pretty soon, too. So yeah, yeah. That's like the that's like the Everest of of horror of uh Haunted House movies. That and the shining.
SPEAKER_01:If you want a truly beautiful haunted house movie, it's up there with the changeling, I think. Oh, absolutely. As the movie kind of opens, you know, we see the title card, John Carpenter's The Fog.
SPEAKER_02:You get this nice shot of the coastline and the windswept Inverness, California, yeah, Northern California coastline.
SPEAKER_01:It's it's a it's a small town I would love to visit, man. It's got all this atmosphere, and you know, you got that cool lighthouse that they show later on. Oh, yeah. Just the this you know, downtown area looks like a cool lighthouse.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's in a national park.
SPEAKER_01:Oh do you know the name of the the actual lighthouse? No, yeah, we should look that up.
SPEAKER_02:I think it's like the Inverness County lighthouse. Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_01:Might be wrong. Yeah. Yeah, but uh we we get introduced to uh Father Malone. Oh yeah, and uh he he almost looks like he lives in sort of some monastery, it's just all old stone walls and you know, he's just uh doing I guess stuff a father would do.
SPEAKER_02:Fucking sitting there, typical Catholic getting fucked up. Yeah. Uh John Carpenter has a uh has a cameo in this. He's uh the handyman for the for the church, and he comes in, he's like, he's like, you know.
SPEAKER_01:Oh no shit. That was that was John Carpenter. I didn't I didn't know that.
SPEAKER_02:Okay. Yeah. And um he goes and he uh he asks he asks Father Malone if he can get he can get paid. Father Malone's played by uh Hal Holbrook. And um kind of gives him the runaround. Yeah, and he's like he's like, Father, can I get paid tonight? And and uh Father Malone's like, why don't you come in tomorrow at six?
SPEAKER_01:Uh so what happens? He something something falls from the yeah uh from the wall.
SPEAKER_02:It's an old stone church, so things are falling apart. Yeah, it's gonna have some some uh structural damage to it, but uh there's a lot of poltergeist activity that that kicks off in this movie right at midnight, yeah. Between midnight and one a.m. Yeah, is when like all this stuff starts kicking off, and there's a little journal behind the wall, and it's his grandfather's journal, yeah. From when uh the the town was being founded, right? And then all hell breaks loose.
SPEAKER_01:Yes. Um I think the the the journal opens up, it says April 30th, uh midnight till one belongs to the dead, and Lord deliver us. Yeah. So some little black metal shit. For real, man. If I open up an old book and it said that, I close it. I'm gonna get rid of this. This is I've seen Evil Dead, man. Yeah, I don't I don't want to be possessed. Two coats. Yeah. Yeah, so you're right. They're uh the movie kind of takes you throughout the town and and it's a cool old town, too. It is. It's a place I would love to, you know, to visit or live in. You know, it's it's kind of one of those sleepy towns, looks real cozy.
SPEAKER_02:And uh if I'm if I'm and if I'm correct, I think they filmed uh Halloween three there too, or in the same like general vicinity. Okay, yeah, because it looks familiar to the whole coastline and the the the roads and stuff. Yep, yep. Maybe some exterior shots were shot there. I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:It's got Nancy Loomis shows her in her uh from Halloween. She's sitting in her house and ghosts are all freaking out and stuff is getting kicked over and broken and yeah. Yeah, they show the poltergeist activity.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, they show the little uh corner store. Yeah, that's funny. The phones kind of going off.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and the uh the clo the the the night clerk of the grocery, like the night stalker or whatever he is, he opens up one of the orange juice and just takes a swig and then puts it back. It's like wow, dude. Really?
SPEAKER_01:It's like uh we get that one shot where the the car goes up on the like a hydraulic lift.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yeah, and then the gas starts like pouring out, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Some really great shots.
SPEAKER_02:I mean it would have been really cool if they would have like blown it up, that'd have been like, oh yeah, chaos.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, but I mean you right away you kind of know that something's coming. Oh yeah, you know, this supernatural force is letting itself be known.
SPEAKER_02:And yeah, they're not too happy either. No, usually when you have a poltergeist, it's uh they're pretty violent. Yes. Um, some ghosts, you know, like in our old episode, The Changeling, they just want to be their presence known because they need help, but poltergeist are just like they're there to you know fuck shit up. Yeah, you know, cause damage. Poltergeist are are known for like their violent tendencies. Like the movie poltergeist, but yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I I think I like this approach a little bit better though, because it's it's more subtle. Like yeah, the things that happen. I mean, they're all they're happening all around the town, and it kind of gives you this sense of connectivity between all the different members in the town and what they're about to experience.
SPEAKER_02:Let us know if any of you have actually ever had a poltergeist story or a ghost story experience or something unexplainable is happening to you. We we're real suckers for ghost stories in haunted house movies. So I love that shit, man.
SPEAKER_01:Leave it in the comments. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And uh doesn't have to be a movie. Like if you if you've actually seen a real ghost, that'd be sweet. Yeah. Let us know.
SPEAKER_01:Maybe we'll do a whole episode where we just feature all of our listeners ghost stories. Yeah, you know, that could be something we could do.
SPEAKER_02:Hell yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So uh we get uh the scene with Nick and Elizabeth. Yeah, shit's funny, which is it's like straight out of a porno.
SPEAKER_02:I mean straight up out of like the 80s. Yeah. Is that anybody who had it who had a dad that drank beer in the 80s? Yeah, freeway flyer. They fucking drank, they drink and drive. Yeah, my grandfather, he used to have a but it was funny because he'd only drink it when he's at a stop sign, and he'd say, Uh, I'm not drinking and driving because I'm stopped. It's like, sweet, that makes sense.
SPEAKER_01:Until the police pull you over and then you got open container, but yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Well, he didn't give a fuck. You know, the cops pulled him over, he'd probably want to fight him or some shit.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, whatever. My grandpa's like that too. He had an old Ford 150 and he'd just run around with his fucking beer and he had a CB radio and listening to fucking Johnny King Dave Allen Code.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, fucking awesome. Yeah, man. Yeah, Tom Atkins, he's uh he's a he's a silver fox, man. He uh he's a he's a header. He got he yeah, he got with uh Jamie Lee Curtis, yeah, Stacy Nelkin and uh Halloween three, yeah. All these young chicks just throwing themselves at him. It's like hey motherfucker.
SPEAKER_01:And and I didn't even really recognize Jamie Lee Curtis when I first saw her in this movie. Uh she's so young. And I uh to be honest with you, I didn't know that this was filmed after Halloween. So I was like, who is that? And I was like, holy shit, that's Jamie Lee Curtis. When she smiles, I'm like, okay, that's it's definitely her.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, you could tell that she really wanted to break away from the the horror movie. She didn't want to be typecast. Yeah. And um apparently she had a she had a real beef because her mom's in this movie, Janet Lee.
SPEAKER_01:Right, she's the busybody, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And she was kind of apprehensive about doing the movie because she didn't want to be typecast with her mom either, because she in the in some uh special features she was talking about it'd be really easy to have me and my mom as like a package deal. And she she didn't want to do that, which is understandable. Sure, sure. It's like Joe Hill changing his name from Joe King because he didn't want to, you know. Of course, it's like yeah, his dad is Stephen King, so it's like, but he wanted to be a writer, yeah. So he changed it, he he uses Joe Hill as a pseudonym.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Again, we get we get the uh the voice on the radio. I want to live in that world just cruising down some windy coastal road. Yeah, fucking great. Um, but yeah, they they uh I think they did they stop? I think they stopped for a moment and then the fucking windows bust out like out of nowhere. Yeah, and they're just kind of flipping.
SPEAKER_02:Naturally, that's that's what you would do after a situation like that. Yeah, I mean I would.
SPEAKER_01:Hey, crisis brings people together.
SPEAKER_02:I'm scared, right?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, uh, but then this is where we get uh the the lighthouse uh for the first time, and we see that beautiful voice on or the face attached to that beautiful voice. Adrian Barbo. Yeah, man. I mean, I I think I remember seeing her in some other stuff when I was a kid, and I was just like, I I probably had a little bit of a crush. Yeah, that's right.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that's the first thing I saw her and then uh Escape from New York, yeah, which is like her best movie for sure. Yeah, yeah, from back in the day. I mean, she's a little long in the tooth now, but she's still got a nice rack. Yeah, I don't give a fuck what anybody says. Yeah, she's she's good looking. In Escape from New York, it's like just drooling, dude.
SPEAKER_01:She takes her break, I guess, and and she's on the phone with uh with the weatherman, the local weatherman. He's trying to hook up, but she's like she's a widower in the story, so she's like hard to get because she's I am not into you, dude.
SPEAKER_02:You're you know kind of a creep. Yeah, but you know, it's just two lonely people talking in the middle of the night, you know. Yeah, I'm sure a lot of radio hosts get that. Yeah, especially like AM radio, oh like Art Bell and shit. He used to have people call him all the time, so like serial killers would call him, fucking people that think they're vampires and all sorts of wild shit.
SPEAKER_01:Probably some stalkers, yeah. Fucking A. Yeah, so uh it's kind of a cool like plot device because you know, the weatherman would obviously be involved in a situation like this where the main villain is weather itself.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Who would be good as an as a as a podcast host from back in the day? Vincent Price, yes, um, Christopher Lee, of course, any of the old, any of the old like British horror actors, Peter Cushing, yeah, charming to the last. He fucking dude, as a as uh Grandmoff Tarkin, god he was so good. Telly Savalas. That'd be funny. Yeah. Uh god damn, the list the list could go on, dude.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. So uh the next scene we get this uh this old boat, yeah, fishing trawler.
SPEAKER_02:Uh the the weatherman Dan O'Bannon, he's talking about there's a fog bank rolling in though.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, that's right.
SPEAKER_02:And that can I yeah, and they're going back and forth because she's like, Well, my wind gauges are saying it's due east. And he's like, Well, mine is due west and it's coming straight for, you know, I mean due east and it's coming straight for the shore. She's like, Well, that doesn't make any fucking sense. Yeah, and he's she's like, Whatever, dude. So yeah. Then we see the seagrass. Yeah. It's a little trolley. Uh the crew is sitting there getting away from the wives and sitting there drinking some beer. Yep. Three. Probably drinking a lot of beer.
SPEAKER_01:Uh, yeah, they're probably already uh sufficiently drunk at this point. Hell yeah. You know, just enjoying their each other's company. Yeah. Looks like uh you got three of them Al Williams, Dick Baxter, and Tommy Wallace. Yep. And uh it these are some cool shots because you get this kind of like harsh red light from the inside. It's like one, I don't know what you call that inside the boat, but kind of gives it gives this ominous look to everyone. They do that so they won't lose their night vision.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, is that what that's for? Okay, that makes sense. Because if you I mean Coast Guard, the I think it's a Coast Guard uh law. That's what I heard. Okay.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, because you see it, you see that a lot, especially in films and stuff, like in submarine scenes, and but I never knew why they why there was always these red lights.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's to uh so you don't lose your night vision. Because it's dark out on the water at night. Yeah. And if you lose your night vision, then you're like a a vessel's coming at you, you're fucked. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. So one of them spots this, I think it's the captain. Yeah. Spots the uh this fog rolling in.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, because at first they're like, There's no fog bank out there. Right. Because Stevie Wayne is talking about it's like, hey, anybody out on the water, there's a fog bank coming in. And they don't see anything. The old dude's like, there ain't no fog bank coming. Yeah. And then he turns around and he's like, hey, there's a fog bank. There's a fog bank. Yeah, it's like, yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. And so he he gets kind of one of his other buddies to come over and take a look, and and sure enough, the fog's rolling in closer and closer. And you get this great shot as they go out into the deck where you see this old boat kind of rolling. Yeah, it's a ghost ship. Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_02:Straight up ghost ship.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. And these are some really great shots because you just all you're seeing is really just kind of shadows and silhouettes through the fog. Oh yeah. You can't really make out anything until you get to uh these three looks like three silhouettes. There, there's a cool scene, I think, when one of the ghosts goes under down below into the cabin, and you see one of the fishermen, and it's just got the the light from the uh the water kind of dancing on his face, you know, and the rest of the scene is really dark.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But you have the shot of the the ghosts kind of coming through the the light of the fog, and you get the silhouette and stuff. I I like scenes like that. I thought with what they had to work with, it actually looks pretty impressive. Yeah. In scenes like that.
SPEAKER_02:And um, when they screened the film for uh AFCO embassy executives, they weren't happy because it wasn't violent enough. So a lot of the stuff is like refilmed with like the the physical, like the stabbings and shit. Yeah. The original the cut doesn't have all the stabbing in it. Yeah. I thought that would have been cool if they, you know, off screen. Yeah, for real. Use your imagination, folks. Yep. I think your mind's eye is much more powerful than anything on screen. It's like Texas Chainsaw. Yeah, man. That's that's the reason why that movie is so powerful. There's very little bloodshed in that movie. Yeah, but you feel it. You feel like you saw a horrific scene. Yeah, you know. Like when they hang Pam on the meat hook. Yeah, you don't see any blood. Motherfuckers, you know, there people to this day say, Oh, it goes right through her. It's like, no, it doesn't.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. It's just like psycho. You don't see a single stab wound.
SPEAKER_02:Uh so yeah, we go back to the lighthouse, and um she sees uh little flash of light off in the distance, and then nothing. She's like, must have been nothing. Right now, three dudes just got wasted.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. That's a cool shot. I like the I like the the wide shot of of the the fog in the distance. You know, you just see the kind of light on the horizon.
SPEAKER_02:Oh yeah. Um yeah, it's really cool how they animated it. Yeah, and they give it kind of like uh this weird glow. Makes it all almost, like you said, sentient.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so we see Nick and Elizabeth in bed.
SPEAKER_02:Ask her her name. He's like, sweet.
SPEAKER_01:They didn't even bother to give each other their yeah, introduce each other.
SPEAKER_02:No, but they're they're becoming fast friends.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. He's uh I guess looking over her notebook. She's an artist. Yeah. Free spirit. Yeah, free spirit, just hitchhiking through life. We've all known one of them. Oh yeah. We've all been there. But uh, then they get some there's a strange noise.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, somebody's knocking on Nick's door and he's like, What the hell is that? Yeah, nobody ever comes around here. Yeah, I don't have any friends.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, you're the first person I've had over in months. Yeah, look at how fucking messy this place is. Uh toilet seat's still up.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Yeah, so uh he's got the wife beater on, pretty badass. He's good, he's a good looking guy for his age. He's you know, he's fit, you know, looking pretty good. Looking good for himself, yeah. And um, he's got like his work pants on or whatever, and he uh he gets up and he puts his pants on and he goes and there's one of the ghosts is at the door knocking on his door and he's like checking it out. He's like, what the hell is that?
SPEAKER_01:And he uh Well, does he actually see it?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, he sees it. Oh okay. He's kind of he's kind of apprehensive because it's like you know, doesn't look normal. It looks kind of creepy actually, and then you know, the ghost takes off because it's it's one o'clock. Right. And then I guess they're only active between midnight and one a.m. They got work hours, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:They're union ghosts. So then, yeah, it's uh the next morning. Yep. And at Antonio Bay.
SPEAKER_02:Yep. Andy's running around. Andy is uh uh Stevie Wayne's son. Yep. He looks like he's about eight or nine. And uh he's a straight up latchkey kid. He's like, you know, his mom works nights, so she's sleeping. He just runs wild. Yeah, he's like he's uh he's got his fishing pole and he's running around on the beach and I was a latchkey kid, man. It was great. I think everybody was a latchkey kid in the eighties. My grandparents didn't get home until like, I don't know, like four or five.
SPEAKER_01:My grandmother worked nights at JC Penny, so yeah. My mom she worked at night and I was uh at home late. Sometimes me and my friends would go swimming in the river in the middle of the night. Jumping off the trestle of the slider and shit. Yeah, it was good times.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah. And Andy sees something kind of shiny in the distance, and he's looking around, and you know, he's probably a little beachcomber. Yep. And um, he runs over to the the the shining object and it's uh de bloom.
SPEAKER_01:It's like a gold sitting on this uh kind of slippery rock.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and um then a wave hits it and it turns into a piece of driftwood, yeah. And he's tripped out, he's like, Wow, that was cool! Yeah, and uh he grabs a driftwood and he runs back to his house, right? And he wakes his mom up. He's like, Mom, check this out, check this out. It was a gold coin. She's like, Good morning, Andrew. You know, she's probably only had like three or four hours of sleep. She's like, I love you, Andrew, but I'm gonna kill you. You know, it's like I need to sleep, yeah. And then uh he proceeds to tell his mom about you know his night and hanging out with Mr. Macon and all that. The ghost story, yeah, that stuff. Yeah, it's like he told us ghost stories, you know, straight up 80s kid. It's cool.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but we get we get a better look at the piece of driftwood and it says Dane in bold letters.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's from the wreck of the Elizabeth Dane. It's it's over a hundred years old, so it wouldn't look like that, but you know, it's a ghost story, so you just gotta go with it. Yeah, plot armor, baby. I mean, the the piece of wood looks cool.
SPEAKER_01:I hang it probably in my apartment.
SPEAKER_02:Looks kind of neat. Uh the the dude that does uh Horror's Hollow Grounds, uh Sean Clark, he has that he's got so many fucking props, dude. I'm so jealous. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, shout out to you, Sean Clark. I want that pillar of souls, motherfucker.
SPEAKER_01:Let's make it happen.
SPEAKER_02:Dude, he went through hell to get that prop. I guess he got kicked out of the prop store and they won't do deal with him anymore. Really? Yeah. Holy shit. Yeah, yeah. But it looks cool.
SPEAKER_01:Well, so uh Nick and Elizabeth go uh go to the the dock.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, we have the scene where uh we're introduced to Mrs. Williams, the hut the wife of the the boat captain of the the seagrass. Yeah and she's planning she's the mayor of the town and she's planning the the centennial cell celebration for Antonio Bay, and uh her and uh Nancy Loomis's character. And they go they go to um to talk to Father Malone so he can give the benediction to the to the celebration. And um then we go to Nick and Elizabeth going to the dock. I think he was supposed to meet up with them, meet the yeah, he was supposed to meet up with them to like go fishing or something. Oh, okay. And then that's when they discover that the Yeah, and the uh and the dock master is there, and he's like, hey, where's you know, such and such? Right. And you know, and he's like, they left here yesterday at like 4 30, probably still drunk. And they're like, No, I've been drunk with them just so many times I can't even count. They wouldn't have not come back. Yeah, it's like there's something going on. So the Nick's buddy, uh, his other buddy that has a boat owes him a favor, so they hop on this other guy's boat and they go out.
SPEAKER_01:So uh we get kind of this uh the shot of um Stevie Wayne kind of going on her little uh morning commute to the lighthouse. You get these really great shots. A lot of them are kind of like you know, wide shots of the coastline. I mean, it's kind of commute I wish I had every fucking morning, dude.
SPEAKER_02:It looks great. Make me want to go to work, yeah, for real.
SPEAKER_01:Uh, but then you know, in between that we get Nick and Elizabeth going out to this uh to the seagrass to investigate. So it kind of goes back and forth a little bit.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and then um Mrs. Williams and uh Nancy Loomis's character, they go to talk to Father Malone. Yep. And this is where we find out the the real history of the Elizabeth Dane and what it was there for.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Yeah, and there's a cool shot when uh when they enter the church, it's got the light coming from the probably the stained glass or whatever. Oh yeah. But the way it comes down on her face and looks really cool. Oh yeah. But yeah, Father Malone kind of clues them in on his his discovery.
SPEAKER_02:Father Malone, he has a uh uh uh well like most most Catholic priests, he has a drinking problem. He drinks a lot.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Um and I think he uh after reading the journal and what he recounts the uh the story of of the Elizabeth Dane and why it's there. Um The Elizabeth Dane was captained by a man named uh Blake. And Blake was leader. Of a leper colony. And apparently they have a lot of money, like a lot of gold, you know, saved up. They don't go anywhere. They're lepers. They can't go anywhere. Right. So Blake um approaches the uh apparently he doesn't have that bad of leprosy yet. Leprosy is, you know, it's a it's a degenerative. Yeah. It gets worse with time. I mean, I don't think there's lepers left. Are they is leprosy still a thing? Uh it could come back. Who knows? Anything's possible. I mean, the Black Death has came back. Yeah. That's fucked up. For real. But yeah, and um apparently Blake approaches Malone's grandfather, who's one of the founders of the town, and says, Hey, we uh we're lonely out there. We want to, you know, connect with the community. We want to move back to civilization. About yeah, about a mile up the road. And they're like, fuck that. We're not, you know, we don't want lepers living around us. Yeah. So they devise a murder plot.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Which is unfortunate. And they and still are the gold. Yeah. You know, yeah. It's kind of fucked up. Yeah. You know, and um that's that's the the reason why they crashed the Elizabeth Dane. They wait for a a fog bank. You know, the there's a fog bank coming in when they uh when they were planning on, you know, moving back to so they put a uh a fire on the beach as a you know to to lure them in and it crashes their boat.
SPEAKER_01:That's right.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and they all die. Yeah. Then the the the next day they loot all the gold on the exact same day that the town is you know centennial.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:So now we get the very convoluted plot if you think about it. I mean, this movie is all over the place.
SPEAKER_01:A little bit, yeah. Like I said though, I mean it's not bad. We kind of get a sense of why this this town is being cursed, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And Father Malone, you know, he's he just lays it out, he's like, We're honoring murderers, right? And he wants no part of it because he knows he knows that he uh his number's up. Yeah, because he knows that his his ancestor was a direct result, as a direct cause of these men dying.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I wouldn't want to celebrate either. I'd be like, I don't want any part of it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, exactly. This isn't something to you know to glorify. Yeah. Um, yeah, so then we get Stevie, you know, going to the lighthouse. Oh, yeah. Looks like she's got her program ready to go in her under her arm, which is the right.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, she's she's listening to ads that Tommy Wallace, the production designer, recorded for. Really? Oh, yeah, he's got an awesome voice too. Oh, that's fun. He's the guy that does the uh it's almost time, kids. Oh, no, she's yeah, that's Tommy Lee Wallace. Hell yeah, the director of Halloween 3. Okay. Don't forget to wear your masks. It's almost time.
SPEAKER_01:Still stuck in my head, man. What a cool place to work. I would love to work in a lighthouse. Oh, yeah. Where I get to just fucking play records all day and you know, look out over the water.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, really. The only thing you'll have to worry about is like getting the FCC pissed off at you.
SPEAKER_01:Sure.
SPEAKER_02:Which is cool about podcasts because I don't think it falls under FCC jurisdiction.
SPEAKER_01:I don't think so.
SPEAKER_02:Or we we wouldn't be able to say half the shit we say. Yeah. Like we wouldn't be able to say shit.
SPEAKER_01:Or fuck. Yeah. Or tits. Yeah. Um, so this is kind of a cool uh cool scene where she she goes in, she's kind of getting ready for the day's program. And uh sh doesn't she have that driftwood?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. And it starts leaking seawater, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Her back is kind of turned uh turned and looking out the window, and then it's just the lights on fire.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's all like satanic looking.
SPEAKER_01:I was like, Yeah, it just kind of bursts away. Wow, dude. Check that out. Right, right. But yeah, it's it's cursed. Yeah, and she puts it out with a fire extinguisher and was kind of like you know, startled by the whole thing.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, she calls her son and uh to make sure that Mrs. Cobra's babysitter showed up.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, right, yeah, Mrs. Colbert's.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and then she she tells her son not to go out that night, and he's like, Oh ma. He's like, you know he's gonna go out anyway. He don't give a fuck. Yeah, he's gonna wait till Mrs. Coberts is asleep because she's old. Yeah, and then she he's gonna be like, I'm out better. Yeah, so I'm gonna go party.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, have fun, have ride my bike. That's right. How 80s kids did, yeah, it's how they rolled.
SPEAKER_02:The bike was like, you know, that was you had to have a bike. Yeah, if you didn't have a bike, you were lame. Yeah, you were super lame. You didn't have any friends if you didn't have a you wouldn't be able to go anywhere.
SPEAKER_01:So uh next we get a Nick and Elizabeth uh at the morgue, and uh they're looking at one of the fishermen.
SPEAKER_02:They find their buddies' bodies, yeah. They find no, they find one of the bodies. The other two are gone.
SPEAKER_01:That's right.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, you just find the the one guy, and his eyes are his eyes are torn out of his skull. It's pretty wild looking.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it looks great. It's great. Hell yeah.
SPEAKER_02:They're the only decent makeups in this movie.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, you can definitely tell which ones they are putting a little more thought and money into it.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and it's funny because the guy that did the makeup for this movie did the thing, Rob Bouteen. So it's like it's like Damn.
SPEAKER_01:Damn, bro. Maybe they cut his you know salary on this one and then just gave him all the money in they were saving up for the thing.
SPEAKER_02:It's like we know you we know you do great job. Yeah, a great job. Yeah, so they uh they're doing the autopsy scene and uh moving. Yeah, they're talking to and uh you know, the the guy doing the autopsy, he's like, Hey Nick, I have to talk to you outside real quick. And Elizabeth is standing in there by herself, and the corpse gets up.
SPEAKER_01:I love how it shows it kind of moving underneath the sheet, and then you get this really great shot underneath the bed where you just see his legs coming down. Yeah, yeah. And she's in the forearm.
SPEAKER_02:And uh and Nick notices that it gets really cold all of a sudden. And that, you know, that's a that's a telltale sign of ghosts of yeah, of uh sort of supernatural. Yeah, supernatural activity because the temperature fluctuates. Yeah, I guess that's like universal.
SPEAKER_01:You see that in every ghost movie now. Yeah, you know, they made a big deal about it in six cents, but yeah, a lot of weekends then.
SPEAKER_02:And I can understand that maybe you know it's just like energy in the room or whatever, yeah. And she gets scared and they're trying to figure out well, how the fuck did that happen?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so then uh what we go over to the the bar. Yeah, we got Nick.
SPEAKER_02:He calls, yeah, he calls Stevie Wayne, and he's uh because he he notices something about you know what she says about the fog. And he's like, Hey, um, you don't know me, but uh I am uh I'm friends of the guys that were on the seagrass. And she's like, Oh, I don't know anything about that. Yeah, he's like, No, it's it's something you said about the fog, and she's like, Okay, hang on a minute. And she sees the fog coming in. Yeah, it's like, oh my god.
SPEAKER_01:She's kind of like the the one that can, I mean, she obviously has the best vantage point in town. So she's kind of the one that acts as sort of the alarm for for everyone in the town, kind of warning everybody that this is coming.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, then she calls uh she calls um the weatherman. He's not there yet, so she waits until he gets there.
SPEAKER_01:We didn't have cell phones uh back then.
SPEAKER_02:No, we had to like time it to make sure that you had to just call and then their parents answer the phone six times, like he's not fucking here yet. Yeah, stop calling.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, we know the fog's coming. Everybody's kind of they're they're all making the connections, yeah. All the characters are starting to interact.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and this is uh this the next scene is when uh the weatherman Dan O'Bannon gets taken out. This guy crashed. Yeah, I think uh I think um Carpenter did that as a subtle rib to the real Dan O'Bannon because they used to be friends, and then John Carpenter like his success skyrocketed.
SPEAKER_01:Kind of got to his head.
SPEAKER_02:I wouldn't say that. I mean, I don't know the guy, I can't say, but I heard I've heard that that was kind of the the way it went.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, he's like, Oh, I'm a I'm a big dog now, I don't need you.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, pretty much. That's what I heard anyway. I don't know. Yeah, and uh Charles Cypher's character, Dan O'Bannon, he gets taken out and he gets wrecked.
SPEAKER_01:It's funny how he thinks the whole time, like he he's just so nonchalant, you know. He hears a knock on the door, right? Yeah, and he's just he just kind of like, Oh, I'm just gonna go check it out.
SPEAKER_02:Meanwhile, the Stevie Wayne is like freaking out answer the door.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, you know, it's the fog.
SPEAKER_02:So she's calling the uh the centennial because she's trying to get the cops, she's she's trying to get the sheriff, and um the uh the sheriff is sitting in the crowd with the uh centennial goers.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And um somebody calls like, hey, somebody's on the phone for you. It's the it's the the radio DJ at the White House. And he goes to answer the phone and the and the the fog starts trolling everybody. It's like popping uh power lines, and and it's it's like it's like going to the power station and going up inside the the the power grid and destroying it. It's like oh that's pretty cool. Why didn't they just do that? For real. Instead of having these lame dudes dressed up like Scooby-Doo ghosts, you know. That's what I thought when I fucking first saw this. I was like, man, it's like Scooby-Doo. Yeah. You know, which is unfortunate because I don't think that's what John Carpenter was going for.
SPEAKER_01:But no, no, no. Yeah, the the the shots where the where it feels like the fog is kind of interacting with with you know real objects and and kind of manipulating things, I think is is much more interesting than than the ghosts themselves. Yeah. Um, and I to be honest with you, I didn't care that much about the the lore um behind the ghosts, but um Yeah, it would have been cool if it was just evil fog.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, you know, it's like with no reason. Yeah, it's like you don't need it to have some sort of curse being. Just like finding like dead bodies on the beach, or like every night this fog comes in and like takes people out, and then just you know, it's like incessant like going back and forth.
SPEAKER_01:You don't know if this fog is going everywhere or if it's just your town. You don't know if the whole planet is being taken away. Yeah, it's like the mist, dude.
SPEAKER_02:It's like it's like when you watch the mist and you think, yeah, like how pervasive is it? Is it uh just in my town? Is it like you said, is it the whole planet?
SPEAKER_01:Right. Yeah, yeah, that sense of dread and helplessness. Yeah, always find that appealing in the movie. Uh yeah, so I mean you get these the the cool shot where the the fog kind of looks green when it rolls in, it's kind of lit. Yeah, the weatherman, man. He didn't he didn't make it. He answers the door, gets taken out. He gets a hook in his neck, it's pretty awesome.
SPEAKER_02:It's an awesome shot.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and you get the light coming through the door with the the mist and everything, yeah. It's it's gone. And uh, yeah, it kind of goes between that and then the the town, they're they're trying to do the celebration, the centennial town store.
SPEAKER_02:They're doing yeah, they're they have like a statue that they're gonna unveil, yeah. Which and Nick and Elizabeth, they're uh they're listening to Stevie Wayne like freaking out on the radio. Yeah. So she's like, go to the weather station on fucking dumb fuck road. And um that's not the name of it, but no, it's good, it's good enough.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And um, so they're driving over there, they're driving all over the place in this movie, yeah. And they go and you know, they find they don't find Dan O'Bannon, but you know, then uh you know, Stevie, Stevie Wayne's freaking out because she can see the fog going closer to her house. Yeah. So she's like, Go to my house on you know such and such road.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, because now she's freaking out because she thinks her son's in danger.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, well, he is. Yeah. Um, then it uh goes to Mrs. Cobritz and Andy sitting there, and you know, she's like, Go to your room. Yeah. I want to see. Yeah, it's like look he's acting like you know, there's something on TV. No big deal, lady. Come on, don't be a chicken. Yeah, you know, and um poor old Mrs. Cobra, she gets taken out.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, she answers the the door and the fog takes her. Yeah, but I like how Danny just he waits to the very end. He's like, okay. And he shuts the or sorry, Andy.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, thinking to Danny Torrents. Yeah, then he's like sitting, then he he gets kind of scared. He he gets uh he gets put in his place a little bit, and he's sitting there and he's like sitting in his room, and uh Nick Castle and uh Elizabeth, they uh they roll up to the house, and he can see that there's ghosts all over the place and the fog and shit. So he runs up and he smashes this window. He's like, hey, get out of there. Yeah. And Elizabeth gets in the driver's seat and she's like, she can't put the fucking truck in reverse. It's like, put it in reverse, lady, hit the clutch and shift. I love this truck though, man. Looks badass. That's the F-150, wasn't it? Like an old, like old Ford, pretty bubbly. Or an old like Chevy or something.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it looks more like a Chev. So yeah, they uh they they rescue Andy. Yep, and they take off.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, so uh Stevie Wayne is kind of like orchestrating this whole thing because she can see everything. She can see like but the fog, she sees the fog coming over the hill of the of the lighthouse, and she's like, oh shit. Yeah, I think the fog knows it's like it's like sentient, man. It's like it's like, oh no, we can't have that. Yeah. So the fog starts attacking the lighthouse, and you know, I think she loses power, but she no, she has a generator.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, everybody else is in the dark right now. Yeah, but she's yanking on the uh the generator to try to get it started, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And then and then it's like it's like everybody for themselves.
SPEAKER_01:Because everything everybody uh eventually they they meet at the church. That's that's kind of where everything sort of coalesces.
SPEAKER_02:I think it's uh it's a fitting ending to the movie because you know that's where it all started. Yeah, it's a fast-paced movie. The next thing you know, the movie's over, and you're like, Wow, that was great. Yeah, I like this scene though, because it uh we we get to see the the golden cross that they made all out all it's the whole it's it's all the loot that Blake and uh his buddies had, and they melted down to like this big crucifix. Yeah, it's like well that's pretty cool, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And you just see Father uh Mahoney, Malone. Malone.
SPEAKER_02:Saint St. Police Academy, man.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. Okay, so uh father Father Malone. Uh I'll leave that one in. Yeah, sure.
SPEAKER_02:Mahoney.
SPEAKER_01:I like I like how he's he he's just carrying it like it's like it's his burden. Yeah, you know. Uh, and there's a great shot where where you just see him holding it out to these ghosts that that show up.
SPEAKER_02:He's like, I got your money.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Trying to be like, I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah, they're and the ghosts aren't having any of that shit. They're like, no.
SPEAKER_01:No, nah. Now they grab it. I like this. Is something I'd like to see on a poster or a fucking shirt, man, because you just see the ghosts like glowing red eyes and the mist hanging off of it, and that that cross when he touches it, it just turns bright white. Yeah, like it's glowing.
SPEAKER_02:Like the like the gold itself is possessed. Yeah, wow, dude.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Cool shot. I thought I thought the the father was gonna be a goner at that point, but he survives at least at least for a little while longer.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And uh that that seemed to appease the spirits, and uh the mist kind of recedes.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's kind of like uh in that shot of uh Lord of the Rings at the end when uh when Aragorn sets the it's like okay, I've I hold your oaths fulfilled. Yeah. You would think that that would be uh that would be it's like I got my shit. So um yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. And and uh it looks like everything's gonna be alright.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, because uh only there was six conspirators in the original conspiracy to kill the lepers, so six people had to die. That's right. But unfortunately, there's only five that are dead so far, so yeah. The oath wasn't held fulfilled. And but before that, Stevie Wayne, she's like, I don't know what happened tonight. Oh yeah, but she's doing a little monologue on that. It's like you know, you know, everything that happened tonight, and um all the ships out there, watch out for the fog. Yeah, I thought that was pretty cool, and I thought that that was gonna be the end of it, yeah, but it's not because we get the the final shot is uh Father Malone, he's kind of like digging through, he's kind of like composing himself, yep. And then you turn around and there's Blake standing there with his that's fucking cutlass, and he just takes him out, and then that's the end of the movie, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Not a bad ending. I mean, you know.
SPEAKER_02:No, I mean it was an ending, but you know, there was a lot of a lot of stuff in this movie was reshot. Really? Yeah, I think that's uh that's another reason why the narrative feel of it is so disjointed. Yeah, because Carpenter wasn't happy with the the first product with the with the original cut.
SPEAKER_01:So I I don't know what that feels like.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:No shit.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, you do. Sean is a slave drama, only to myself, yeah. So we have to re we have to re-record it.
SPEAKER_01:It's like okay. Yeah, but it's no problem, it's because I care about our audience.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and another another funny little bit of trivia about this movie. Um, the the co-writer of this movie was Deborah Hill. Yeah. And John Carpenter and her were hooked up.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, I didn't know that.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, but then um during the filming of this movie, he gets with Adrian Barbot.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, well, I mean, actually, come on, can you blame the guy?
SPEAKER_02:Hell no. I'd have been over that like white on rice.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, dude. I'm sure they probably talked on the phone, and he was like, uh, I'm yeah, you got me.
SPEAKER_02:But you know what? Deborah Hill was a trooper, she stayed with it to the end, you know, she was professional about it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Um I guess this was written in England when Carpenter uh was visiting the Stonehenge with Deborah Hill, and they saw the mist rolling across the fields, and that's when they started talking about it.
SPEAKER_02:England has some thick fucking fog to it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, man. Yeah. That's why I was surprised that this was filmed in California. I'm like a story like this, you're gonna film it in California.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. You would figure that they would if they wanted to get with like the real like gothic tropes, they would go to you know basically the birth of Goth.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, go to England or real. I heard uh that it was concept was partially inspired by True Event, like uh the wreck of the frolic.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_01:A ship that sank uh off the California coast near Point, I think it's Reyes in 1850.
SPEAKER_02:Point Rayez. Is it Rayez? Rayez, Ray Reyes or whatever. Yeah, let's see. Uh movie was directed by John Carpenter, of course. It's released in 1980. Music was made by Carpenter as well. Yeah. Uh sorry, Adrian Barbeau is Stevie Wayne, Jamie Lee Curtis is Elizabeth Sauley. Hell yeah. Tom Atkins is Nick Castle. Hell yeah. Hal Holbrook is Father Malone, Janet Lee as Kathy Williams, with a special appearance by John Houseman as Mr. Macon. Nice. Yep. Those are the those are the basic facts about it. Hell yeah.
SPEAKER_01:It's a good movie. It's uh I guess it made around a uh million bucks. Yeah. So, yeah, I'm not great, but uh you know, it's not bad for that time.
SPEAKER_02:It's not yeah, uh it's not on par with Halloween. Yeah Halloween was can is considered like the most famous independent film of all time. Oh yeah. And like for moneymaker wise, Halloween for for the amount that it cost to make it, fucking Halloween was like Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:They were like, holy shit, we need to make a lot more of these.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and you know fuck sequels.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. All right. Well, there it is. The fog.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, check it out.
SPEAKER_01:Check it out.
SPEAKER_02:I'll give it three out of five stars. Yeah, maybe three point five for me. Our next one's gonna be a little bit of a departure. Yeah. We're gonna do the green room.
SPEAKER_01:Yep. And it's gonna be uh, yeah, it's not it's not gonna be a horror movie for the first time, I think, yeah, since the series started. But uh, I'm excited to see it. I haven't seen it yet, although it takes place in Portland, which I I hailed from.
SPEAKER_02:It takes some of some place in southern Oregon.
SPEAKER_01:That's right, that's right. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:There are shots of Portland in it, though. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So then yeah, next week we'll do uh the green room. I think it's just green room. Oh, green room, yeah. And uh, you know, like and subscribe as always. Yep. And uh leave a comment. Yep. And we will see you next week.