Monday Commute (014) - $coe

Justin aka $coe on the pod this week. Originally from Los Angeles, Justin is no stranger to a 303 or any underground genre with an acid synth. We get into his time in Brooklyn, how he survived clubbing in the freezing temperatures, and the sustainable way to create electronic music

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

You hear me? It's lit now. Yeah, the headphones are nice. Just because it's like headphones are sick, dude. It just like locks you in.

SPEAKER_00 0:12

I use these headphones to DJ.

SPEAKER_02 0:14

Yeah, well I I had the I had one set and then I don't know if for some reason I don't know if it's the connection or something. They always work at home, but when I like go to DJ, there's always one ear that's fucked up.

SPEAKER_00 0:29

Same with mines, dude. I don't know what the fuck it is. And like it might be like the wiring right here or something.

SPEAKER_02 0:38

Yeah, because I mess with that and it just doesn't. I don't know if I gotta fuck with it more. But I ended up just buying another set, so I was like, fuck it, I'll just use them for that.

SPEAKER_00 0:48

I definitely need to buy another set because that shit gives me the same issues, and I'm like, uh do I tape it? But they're they hold sentimental value. I want to keep them until they actually done done.

SPEAKER_02 1:01

Yeah, because those were the first headphones that I had.

SPEAKER_00 1:05

Oh shit, nice.

SPEAKER_02 1:06

Yeah. Oh, we're we're live, by the way. The mics are hot. Um we have Mr. Sko. What's good, yo? Um, thanks for coming on.

SPEAKER_00 1:19

Dude, it's a pleasure to be on here. I'm honored that we're doing this, and uh thank you, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:27

Yeah, we had a couple rain checks, but we we figured it out.

SPEAKER_00 1:30

Oh yeah. Can't stop this. Can't stop this, you know. Keep the ball rolling. We figure it out.

SPEAKER_02 1:39

Um, but yeah, I guess um like a bunch of the other episodes, this is the first time we've met, so it'll be interesting to get into everything. Um, you said that you lived in Manhattan. Is that where that's where you grew up?

SPEAKER_00 1:58

No y I'm from Los Angeles. I'm from right here where we're sitting and shit. And um it was twenty sixteen is when I moved to Brooklyn. I lived in Brooklyn and um yeah, twenty sixteen started my whole like New York. Yeah, there you go. Twenty sixteen started my whole uh New York life and um that shit was dope. And uh I was there for eight years and then I moved back and here we are, yo.

SPEAKER_02 2:39

Why why did you move out there to begin with?

SPEAKER_00 2:43

Strictly for music and just to get another like outlook on life and shit. New York was definitely like one of the places that I've always been intrigued by just for just the culture in general, you know, like music, fashion, sports. I love basketball and New York's the mecca of it. And so yeah, things out here in LA were I wouldn't say shaky, but I was just kind of over it. And in music, you wanna spread your wings, like you don't want to just stay stagnant in one place and stuff, you know, and like you wanna you wanna spread out because the music is universal. So go out there and get it, you know. I had an opportunity to go out there and uh I really loved it, so I said, fuck it, I'm staying, yo.

SPEAKER_02 3:50

Yeah. And were you this was for house music?

SPEAKER_00 3:54

House music, techno, I make acid house and techno, just acid all around the board. Yeah. So I knew New York had like a history of house music, and they have like a very good history of techno. So it was really cool to go and just like embrace myself all in it, and like not going out there like I know it all, just kind of just being a sponge and embracing everything, the whole city life, um, the music life, uh just life in general, you know. It's very fast paced out there, and yeah, it's people get it misconstrued that New Yorkers are mean as fuck and shit. Um they're really not, they're just up front, and that's all you can really ask for in people is to just be up front and honest with you. Yeah. And um, as far as music goes out there, if you're good, people gonna fuck with you. They don't they don't care where you're from, yo. Like, as long as you come and you bring it, you're not faking the funk and shit. Like, people real recognize is real, and out there you definitely see it. And um, yeah, I got embraced out there just off the simple fact of my sound and just how I I just came correct, you know. Like wasn't an asshole.

SPEAKER_02 5:32

You would think it wouldn't be that hard, but yeah, here in LA it's here people don't.

SPEAKER_00 5:37

Here in LA it's just it's a it's a I don't know. It must be like the Hollywood effect. People were in LA, you know, everybody wants to be somebody, and you know, everybody can be somebody, you know, and you're not stepping on any toes. There's enough room out here in California for everybody to be a star, you know. Yeah, but um you just gotta people's mindset needs to change, you know. Like we can all do this together instead of yeah, it's here.

SPEAKER_02 6:11

I feel like in LA It's ultra competitive in like every aspect of the music industry.

SPEAKER_00 6:19

And then people just like they just smile at your face and say, Alright, cool, bro. Like they could like no, like you don't if you don't really fuck with me, just say that. Yeah, I mean like there's no need for the fakeness, you know.

SPEAKER_02 6:36

Yeah, the New Yorkers are just say it to your face.

SPEAKER_00 6:39

Yeah, the New Yorkers they'll just say it to your face straight up and like what you gonna do about it, you know? What you wanna fight or we could just talk and move the fuck on, you know.

SPEAKER_02 6:49

Yeah. How was the I'm so like intrigued with New York, just because I've never been there, and I have friends that have gone there and they just say it's like the sickest thing.

SPEAKER_00 7:00

It's it's amazing, man.

SPEAKER_02 7:02

Like Do they have they have in LA there's not really like clubs, you know? Like there are clubs, yeah. But we don't have like dedicated house clubs, and I feel in New York they have those smaller, like intimate venues still.

SPEAKER_00 7:18

They do. They they do still have some smaller intimate venues, but mostly everything now is kind of thrown in warehouses or bars and shit like that. Yeah. But um I was fortunate to catch like some of the good clubbing days, uh, the tail end of the good clubbing days, and was fortunate enough to play in some of those venues. Um I remember the first year I was out there, I went to the space, uh, you know, space of beat the have their their club. Well, there's one, there was one in New York. I was fortunate to go to that one. Um, there's another one called Cielo, that's in Manhattan in like the meat packing district. One of the most beautiful clubs I've ever been to, bro. Like you could feel the music from the sole of your feet to the top of your fucking head. Great function one sound, and it was dialed in nicely. And it people dance. Like, none of that just moving around talking in a club and shit, yeah. I mean, not like like at Sound Nightclub, how it's all packed nuts to butt sardines and shit. You could barely squeeze through and everyone won't shut the fuck up, you know? Like, it was everyone shut the fuck up and dance at Cielo. And it was the same at Output. And Output was a most legendary club, and I was fortunate enough to play at that one. Um from House to Techno, dude, like that place was legendary. It was uh there was a main floor, and then they had the panther room, and then they had the rooftop. And the rooftop, the rooftop days were amazing, dude. Playing on that rooftop, playing in the panther room. I've never played in the main room, but being in the panther room and being on the roof was something special, dude. Like that's playing and seeing the skyline of the city and shit in Manhattan, like it don't being from California and going over there was it was amazing, dude. It's like this is I'm here. Like, yeah and I must be doing something right if I'm if I'm here, you know? Like this shit ain't luck.

SPEAKER_02 9:57

Yeah. And how did you get connected with you said you had somebody that kind of like brought you out there?

SPEAKER_00 10:03

Yeah, my boy Nick Estevez. Um funny enough, his dude, he came out to California, um, I think like 2014 or something. And uh he had a friend out here that me and him, we were friends, and he he had his homeboy come out from from New Jersey. He was he's from New Jersey, actually. Yeah. He came from New Jersey and kicked it with us for a week out in LA. And um, I don't know, New Yorkers for the first time when they come out here, and I could just tell he was just still on like edge, like just like a New York nigga is, yo, just like just like on the New York timing, like what we doing, where we going, like blah, blah, blah. I was like, I we went we got the sound. It was a cool night. I forgot who was playing, but um, we got there early. There ain't shit, nobody there. We all getting drinks and stuff, but like I could still tell he was like just pent up, stressed, and just like on edge and shit. Like, I I grabbed, bro. I was like, look, man, we in California. Don't none of these people give a fuck about you. Like, have your drink, bro, dance, enjoy the music, and enjoy your time here, bro. And like, you gonna be all good. And from that day, we were sh we were cool as fuck, yeah. I mean, and uh he went back to Jersey at the time he was uh he was in school. He was uh he was had a he had a frat he was in, and um they had a party, they had a frat party. So cub was like, yo, you wanna come to the east coast and like play some tunes and shit? I was like, fuck it, dog. Like I ain't never been out there before. Yeah, so yeah, I ended up playing this frat party, and uh, it was like a beach themed. These fools, they literally put sand inside the house inside of the frat house. Like the whole bottom floor where the party was at, dawg, was sand, and like people could wear their shoes, people didn't have to wear shoes, and um funny enough, this shit was like in the winter time, it wasn't even in the summertime, bro. Like, and motherfuckers was partying. We partied and I played music till like 6 a.m. Like there was a couple of other DJs there that were like part of their frat and shit, and uh, they was nice and stuff, they was cool, but I think at the time they were just playing a bunch of like Dirty Bird and fucking Desert Heart shit.

SPEAKER_02 12:51

Yeah, I was gonna ask, what were you playing?

SPEAKER_00 12:54

What I I was playing, I was playing fucking I was playing minimal. Of course I was playing my acid shit. Yeah. And then I threw in some techno and stuff, but like I don't like to just keep it just the same. Yeah, the same. Like I like to dabble in it all in a whole set.

SPEAKER_02 13:13

And what year was this?

SPEAKER_00 13:15

Dude, this was like 20 this had to be 2015. This was like a year before I moved out there.

SPEAKER_02 13:23

I'm surprised that they were listening to house music out there.

SPEAKER_00 13:26

Yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_02 13:27

Um because it was still kind of like that EDM era a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 13:32

I mean, yeah, it was very much still that EDM era, and like they were playing like EDM era type shit. So then when I got on, it was like, whoa. Straight warehouse. Straight warehouse shit that none of these kids have even heard before. So they were all fucking with it. I mean, of course, they're frat kids, they're all fucked up, bro. So we went on we we partied till the sun come came up, yo. Uh at least until the next day. And then um I was there for like two more days and I was like, this party happened on a Friday. And I was like, alright, like, we got I got two more days left. Like, what else is cracking in the city? Like, what else could I get into? And uh he made a call to one of his friends. They told me to send them a mix. I sent them a mix, and not even like an hour went by. Like, I would say like 20 minutes went by. They called cuphone and was like, hey yo, your boy's on for Saturday night, bro. Like, get to Brooklyn ASAP. I was like, Bet. So I played an after hours out there. It was called Lost After Hours. It was a pretty like known after hours in uh Brooklyn for the underground. And um I played all night. It's the first time I played like an eight-hour set, bro. Just ripped.

SPEAKER_02 15:10

And they didn't have anyone booked? I think it seems like a little last minute.

SPEAKER_00 15:15

It was super last minute, bro. They didn't have no one booked.

SPEAKER_02 15:19

And yeah, that's probably why they were like, alright, you're you're good. Yeah, you're hired. They were in panic mode.

SPEAKER_00 15:26

They were in panic mode, I guess. And um, yeah, I I ripped all night, dog, and it was a great turnout. It was surprising to me, because like don't none of these people know me. And I don't know none of these people. So like when I got there and I set up my stuff, dude, like, cause at that time I was doing uh like a kind of like a hybrid set. I was playing on tractor and I was also doing shit on my Ableton push. Just throwing clips and yeah little instruments here and there and shit. And I still do that, but uh more on like the techno side of stuff. Yeah. Um yeah. I got there, I started setting up my shit, I started playing. Not even an hour went by, motherfucker was packed. And I just see heads from the front of the stage to the back. There's an upstairs to it. I guess there was some DJs ripping upstairs and shit. And um, it was cracking, dog. And it was dark as fuck in there, bro. When they opened the door in the morning, bruh. And all that sunlight came in. I was like Whoa! This is crazy. And uh, yeah, that was uh that was the first time that's how I got to New York. My boy Nick Estevez. Shout out to him, yo, and he's got a record label out there um in Brooklyn. That's going really brook minimal it's called Brookl Minimal Brooklyn, and uh they've got three or four vinyls out right now, and uh yeah, man's been doing his thing on the whole vinyl in and releasing music. Yeah, yeah. Good dude. That's probably one of my best friends out there in New York. He held me down and really like showed me the way.

SPEAKER_02 17:26

And I guess we can keep getting into the New York stuff. Um, did you were you able to get into like some studios out there? Like work on some shit.

SPEAKER_00 17:36

Um funny enough, me and Nick, we both had friends that were uh they were working at the Manhattan Center, and the Manhattan Center had a studio on the top. It's basically like Timberland's the producer Timberland. It's his it was his studio, and these guys, they were engineers there. So we would go over there and like we'd mix and I'd do tracks. But funny enough, those guys got my boys Rich and Roland, those dudes, they got connected with the Martinez brothers and the whole Cuttingheads group. So those the those guys they had a studio over in it was Queens and Historia. So uh yeah, I was able to go to the Mart the Cutting Head studio over in uh Astoria in Queens. Sick and uh make a few tracks and shit and the instruments and drum machines. It was like fucked. It's crazy, yeah. It was crazy. I was almost I was overwhelmed by how much shit was there, and the only thing that I really touched was that Devil Fish 303. I used the fuck out of that thing, dog. That thing goes ham. Yeah, I I fucking love that one. Um, but yeah, those were pretty much the only two studios that I really went to. My boy Chewy, he has a studio out in Brooklyn that I would cook up with him over there, and most of my producing was done inside my bedroom, like as it should. Yeah, like shout out to all the bedroom producers, or you looking at one right here, bro, and I'm proud of it, you know? Like, all the good stuff, all the good ideals and stuff get cooked up in the bed, dude, and shit. You do the car test and then you do the club test, and it's poppin'.

SPEAKER_02 19:54

Yeah, because I think you can get away with with just how good the computers and stuff are now. Yeah. Like all of the plugins and stuff, they're you don't have to have analog gear anymore.

SPEAKER_00 20:08

Yeah, you you really don't. The thing is, it's good to know it all. Like if you're a musician out there touch it all. Because using both only makes your music better if you're musically inclined and stuff and know how to use the shit, but like there's no rush in trying to figure it all out because there's no like right or wrong way to do this shit. Just fuck around and find out, really. Yeah. So I have definitely I'm not one for throwing all my money into one fucking synthesizer, that's for sure. Like these synthesizers cost they're like a down payment on a new car.

SPEAKER_02 20:53

Like Yeah. I just what the f what did I just buy? I bought um I think it's the mastering uh pro Q like mastering bundle. Yeah. I think that shit was like 700 bucks.

SPEAKER_00 21:14

I mean, it is an Ableton like 500?

SPEAKER_02 21:19

Ableton is like 750.

SPEAKER_01 21:21

Yeah, bro.

SPEAKER_02 21:22

Yeah. And then I was gonna buy Omnisphere yesterday, which is a very useful plugin. But it's like 650. I'm like, dude.

SPEAKER_00 21:32

I will say this. Invest in yourself.

SPEAKER_02 21:35

Like that's also true.

SPEAKER_00 21:37

Totally invest in yourself because if you really want this shit, you don't want to be fucking around with like cracks and shit. Like we've all done it. I'm not ashamed to say that I've had a cracked Ableton version or fucking starts. Yeah. Like when you first start, you don't know if you fully wanna fucking dedicate yourself to it. Like I mean, especially with producing like anybody can fucking DJ. You just need a fucking USB stick now. Um but for producing definitely invest in yourself and be and it's it's hella fucking worth it because you just want you want the best for yourself. And um once I was able to get a fucking real ableton and real like plugins and stuff, I didn't look back. Like I didn't have to worry about shit crashing on me and having to fucking update and patch this and all that bullshit. Like, nah. Like definitely invest in yourself because you will hear it and it will just save you a bunch of trouble in the long run.

SPEAKER_02 22:55

Yeah, yeah, I think that is true, but also sometimes less is more.

SPEAKER_00 23:01

Less is hella more, bro.

SPEAKER_02 23:03

Like buy the plugins that you need, yeah, but don't like you don't need 50 synth plugins, you know? Just get like three that you like.

SPEAKER_00 23:12

Yeah, just like with actually buying gear, you know, like buy a couple of pieces that you know you're that makes your yeah, that you're gonna use on the daily, you know. Like you don't wanna overwhelm yourself with a bunch of fucking synthesizers and a bunch of fucking drum machines, and you just looking at shit like fuck, like what what the fuck do I do? Like, nah. Set yourself up for your workflow. However your workflow's going, use that shit. Cause like these days I can these days, yeah, I can bang out a track in a day. Three good hours of just locked in time. Yeah, I can come up with basically the sole ideal of the track.

SPEAKER_02 24:01

Just like the skeleton, basically. No mixing, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:04

Yeah, no mixing, no nothing. Just gather some sounds, they sound right, boom, we got something to work with, you know? And on to the next one, on to the next one, and then once you like really want to dial in and finish a track, you know, another three good hours, bro. Knock that shit out the park.

SPEAKER_02 24:25

Yeah, that's what I've started doing. I used to just like get caught up so much on mixing, like as I'm producing, I'm like, dude, I just lost the flow. Yeah. So now I split it into like I do like some whatever, just like gain staging and like cutoffs and stuff just to make it sound acceptable. Yeah. It's like you just do the arrangement and everything and then go back and mix it if you really want to finish it.

SPEAKER_00 24:50

Yeah, facts. Well I learned is like I'll drop all every sound that I'm using, I'll drop it like negative three, and whatever's fucking going higher than that, I'll just go ahead and turn it down or boost it up or some shit. But like negative three is really good for just going off and trying to make the ideal and stuff, you know. You just wanna crank this shit the fuck out, you know? Crank out your ideal before you get too lost in oh let me do this, let me do that, put some reverb here, like nah. Like, uh do save all that shit for later. Get the ideal out of your head and make sure that shit's popping first, you know. And then the extra time that you have, yeah, go back in and dial it in nicely.

SPEAKER_02 25:54

Yeah, because it's hard for me to go back if I work on a project, yeah, and then I don't get it to like the finish line part. If I go back, I'm like, I don't want to change this. Like, I'm just not in the same like mind state I was when I was originally making it.

SPEAKER_00 26:11

Nah, facts, I get that a lot, bro. Like, a lot of my producing time happens right when I get out of work. When I get out of work and I need to just like relax and shit, load up the bowl, smoke, and then open that Ableton up and just get to messing with shit, bro. Just different sounds. Like, I'll go I'll drive home with like not listening to any music. Just in silence. Just in silence. Okay. I hear my motor going, you feel me? That shit's got a turbo. You can hear that bitch. Um yeah, I'll listen to nothing. You drive home and just take everything in that I saw today and shit. It's really cool driving by the beach. And um, yeah, I get home, light load up that bowl, and fire that shit up, and then yeah, just let let it all out. Let all the stress out, let everything out. And I make sure I'm in like a good mood too. Like, I d I can't produce when I'm in a bad mood. Like nothing nothing good comes out. Yeah. And plus I like to with all my music I like to have good energy in it, you know? So if I'm not in the best mood, I won't touch it. Like, I'll go play video games and let out my mood on two cade and shit. And then go and hop on Ableton. But yeah, I just I like to yeah, after work, just boom. Get some ideals out and I've been coming up with some really good shit, yo, because of the headspace that I've been in and just the mood and stuff, yo. Like, life's been pretty good, so it's been really easy to make music.

SPEAKER_02 28:03

Yeah. Now that it's like sunny outside, I feel like I'm just way more inspired.

SPEAKER_01 28:08

Yeah, hell yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:09

Going outside is a big thing too, 'cause I mean for a lot of producers and DJs, we've we spend most of our nights Locked away. Locked away or outside at night. Not really much sunshine you're getting, you know, and s unless you go into work and stuff like that. But it's really good to go outside. Go outside and get some fresh air and feel the sun. Um yeah. We in California, dog. Like, yeah, it's you gotta take each yeah, it's the it's unmatched, bro. Everybody in the world wanna be in California for just the weather. Like the prices might suck being out here, but shit. If you get out here and you could be out here, it's a dream.

SPEAKER_02 28:59

Like Yeah. I always tell this to people that aren't from here. Like, yes, we are paying more money to live here, but it's like if you live somewhere where there's like harsh winters and super fucking hot summers, yeah. Like, calculate how many days you can like go outside and just like live your normal life. Facts. Like, we're living like double the amount of days than you guys are.

SPEAKER_01 29:27

Big facts.

SPEAKER_00 29:29

Live dude, I did eight winters out in New York. Yeah. Fuck that. Like, I thought the first I thought the first winter was cool because like I ain't I ain't fucking I ain't seen snow. Like, sure, we have snow out here, but you gotta go to the mountains. I'm not no mountaineer nigga. I don't go to the mountains and shit. I don't even snowboard game. Like the fuck? I'm out in the streets. Um, so yeah, going out there and my first winter, I was working, and um, I had moved out there in the summer, so I wasn't even like thinking about how the winter would go. And yeah, winter struck, and all I had was a sweater on. And I was like, fuck it, bro. Fuck no. I got my paycheck, dude. I went on grilled and I bought a big ass Nike Parker jacket. It had fur inside. It looked like one of those, like, them jackets that them football players be wearing.

SPEAKER_03 30:35

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:36

Like Lambeau Field and shit. They throw that shit over they pads and stuff. Nah, I bought one just like that, but it was all black, had a little Nike sign on it. I still got that shit, bro. Um I uh the next day I bought that shit. And uh that shit came in the mail.

SPEAKER_02 30:56

You didn't think to like buy this beforehand?

SPEAKER_00 31:00

No, bruh. Like, I don't know what the fuck I was thinking. I was like, oh man, this shit ain't bad, bro. Like, and then one day, it was fucking bad. And I was like, I had I was working in Manhattan, I was working in like Union Square, and I lived in I lived in Brooklyn in like Williamsburg, and um I ran to the fucking trade, and I was cold as fuck, bro. I called my mom, I was like, yo, it's fucking cold out here, yo. Like I this I wasn't expecting this. She was like, she ain't never been to New York. Well, she's been in New York with me, but prior to that, she's never been to New York, so she only sees what she sees on the dudes and shit. So she was like, Yeah, Justin, it's it gets cold out there, yo.

SPEAKER_02 31:54

Yeah, it gets like cold, cold. Like zero degrees.

SPEAKER_00 31:57

It gets fucking cold, yo. Like, it's not just cold, that shit, it's fucking brick, yo. Like, being able to see your breath and shit, yo.

SPEAKER_02 32:08

Yeah, like cold enough for you to die out there if you like stayed out there for too long.

SPEAKER_00 32:13

Like seeing a rat frozen trying to get like some trash, bro. Like, and then you wake up the next day and that nigga still like you're dead. Frozen in his tracks, yo. That's how cold New York is. But that's so fucking funny, really. People still fucking party, yo. Like that the thing is about like out there, bro, like they don't give a fuck. Like, the weather's not gonna stop them from partying at all. Like, that's just how they live. That's just how they live, yo. Like, they've they've been through 9-11. What the fuck make you think winter gonna stop them? You feel me? Like, and that's just New York strength, bro. And I I admire that shit, and like without I would say before even going to New York, I feel like I had that mentality being out here. Just go get it, you know? Like, no excuses, just if you really want something, you gonna go and get that shit. And like, you ain't gotta like cross nobody or stab backs while doing that shit. You could just be a real cool nigga and just get it. And new you shout out to New York for all of that, bro. Like, the strength that these people have or to live in those conditions, go to work Monday through Friday, and then Friday through Monday party in the dead ass of winter, it's just it's commendable, bro, because one raindrop pop out over here, everybody inside. Nobody's partying, bro. Like, cocoa and fucking chips, and you wanna be inside watching a movie, bro. Like, nah. The rain sucks out here, but it's good. It makes everything greener.

SPEAKER_02 34:15

Yeah, I was gonna say, I was just like dealing with all that because the last party that I threw.

SPEAKER_01 34:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:22

It was that week when it was like dumping rain.

SPEAKER_01 34:24

Yo, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:26

And I was texting the owner of the the venue. I was like, bro, like, we're gonna have to cancel this shit. Like, it's not gonna be worth our time to like pay all the people to work, you know? Like, we're just gonna be in the negative.

SPEAKER_00 34:39

Yeah, facts. Like, you I mean, throwing a party these days, I don't know. You're gonna lose money.

SPEAKER_02 34:47

I've never made money on one party.

SPEAKER_00 34:49

And that's the thing. Like, these people that are throwing parties and shit, like, yeah, you know you wanna make some money and stuff.

SPEAKER_02 34:57

You just don't want to lose money.

SPEAKER_00 34:59

Yeah, you want to either break even or make a little bit of chip. But you just gotta remember, bro, like, this is for the culture. A lot of us doing this shit, like, you're like one of ones, you know, like you're starting something and you're bringing culture to your city or wherever the fuck you're at, you know, and like I've big shout out to everyone that's throwing parties out here. Like, you're doing something right for the city, and that's why people like big heads want to like come out here and play, because you've made something happen out here, you know, and like you've made it a spot where people want to come and party, but just realize that yo, like, it's for the love of the game, you like you're not about to make no money.

SPEAKER_02 35:52

Like Yeah, and it's funny because if it wasn't for all these underground parties, like the music scene out here would be fucking whack. Dude, it would be shit. Because there's really only there's only sound and the insomniac clubs.

SPEAKER_00 36:10

Yeah. And which are all good good spots, you know, but like those that have been partying for a long time, we're over those spots. The club club days are over. Everything is uh like switched over to a warehouse are a big ass fucking massive. Yeah. And um it's just yeah, the the clubs don't hit the same like they used to. I remember going to Monday night socials and going to the fucking after hours at Avalon and going to playing at Exchange LA. I've played in all these spots, yo, and like those days they were the most fun, you know. Like, you were embraced by your city, you were like in the clubs, and also after you get out of the club, you go straight to the fucking warehouse. Like, so there was always there was always something popping in LA, and the clubs actually brought really good DJs, like DJs that we weren't getting and stuff, and that was another treat while I really loved the clubs out here back in the days because we got to experience like shit that wasn't like being brought over here, and they were only getting brought at like Sound or Exchange LA and stuff, yo. And yeah from there, like it was all it was cool because like playing at Exchange, I got to start playing like Raves and shit, like Insomniac Raves. And as a California kid, like shit, that's what the fuck you wanna be doing, yo, as a as a DJ. You wanna be recognized by all the spots in your city, up and down the fucking coast, yo. Like you don't wanna just you don't wanna stay stagnant, you wanna rep your home, but venture off, you know, and like get the respect from from everywhere, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 38:25

Yeah, and I think it's important to go like you went to New York, uh like go to SF, go to these other cities and like kind of like network with the people that are out there and like Yeah. It's fun to just like go experience other cities like dance music culture.

SPEAKER_00 38:42

Yeah, because you real honestly you just realize how small this shit really is. It's a big it's big, but it's also small, and if you if you're doing right, then it can it can be a really fucking good thing, you know? Like you wanna just You wanna network with everybody. Not just everybody, but the right people and shit, you know? Ones that are like about it are that are about it, you know? Like about the culture, not trying to like fake the funk or just being fucking money hungry assholes and shit, you know. Like I don't know, like you better name drop someone?

SPEAKER_02 39:29

Nah, nah, nah, no name drop it.

SPEAKER_00 39:34

But niggas know who they are, bro. Like that's that's just what it is. And um it's it's it's just cool to preserve the culture and because you just you just never know. Like homie out in New York might be like, yo, come through.

SPEAKER_02 39:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:54

Homie might be like in Detroit, be like, yo, pop through. Or now you can extend the offer to another homie that's an SF or Detroit, Chicago, Miami, and shit. Be like, yo, come to LA for a weekend, y'all mean. Like, let's play some records. Now they getting some exposure and stuff, you know? Like, it's just it's all love at the end of the day, you know, respect. We play house music, bro. There's four on the floor.

SPEAKER_02 40:23

Yeah, we're not curing cancer out here. Yeah, we're not curing cancer, bro.

SPEAKER_00 40:29

Yeah, dog. Like, we're not brain surgeons, bro. We literally just play music and you know, if you're good, people enjoy it. And if you're not, you'll see that shit on the dance floor, yo. Like people will clear clear that shit.

SPEAKER_02 40:46

Yeah. Yeah, I think that's a fun part for me is just once you like network with a bunch of people, you kind of like all kind of help each other out and connect like certain people with other people. That's like like I've had like friends hit me up for parties and they sh are like asking me who I should who they should book. I'm like, dude, this guy would be sick. This DJ's really proper, like connecting people that way, or just like with labels or just like graphic designers, photographers, not facts use this person like it's nice to like give other people like the connections, you know.

SPEAKER_00 41:28

Yeah, hell yeah. It's almost it feels like you got the juice and shit, you know. It's like, damn, I've I've connected people and shit. I'm the link, you know, like that's a good feeling because just being good peoples, you know. You want to surround yourself with good peoples. You want to surround yourself with people that want you to win, you know, and because you want people to win, and that's a good that's a damn good feeling. And and it doesn't feel like competition. It's iron sharpens iron, you know, like your peers around you should be inspiring you to like be be a better you, you know? Like period.

SPEAKER_02 42:15

Yeah, with music and just life in general. Have you gotten to work with I'm sure you've worked with people that are better than you, but have you been in like situations where you're working with producers that are like a lot better than you and you're just like learning from them in the studio?

SPEAKER_00 42:35

Yeah, hell yeah. Um my friends my friend Chewy out in Brooklyn, damn good producer and a hell of a fucking DJ. But yeah, like, and dude's younger than me. That's the funny part. Like I take inspiration from all, older and younger, yo, cause like what's there to hate on? I'm comfortable within myself, I know what I got, you know, and like I'm only getting better, and I see that in my friends and stuff, you know. So yeah, I um Chewy is one who else would I to be honest, I don't really work with a lot of people. Like I kind of stay like solo and and chill by myself because uh is it just the way you produce?

SPEAKER_02 43:36

You kind of just like fuck around so it's not like streamlined like how a lot of people produce.

SPEAKER_00 43:41

I just yeah, I I just I go in no fucking ideals, bro, and just fucking Yeah, I do the same thing. Just lay some shit down, you know? Yeah. But also at the same time, as like I don't I don't like working with a lot of people be for the simple fact motherfuckers be Weird. They be weird as hell, yeah. I mean so like and also I don't want to like get like too close to like motherfuckers because then like you start finding out that motherfuckers is weird. So I'm just like I'm good on all that. Like I'll I'll see y'all niggas at the party and shit, yeah. I mean like we can kick it and like that's it, you feel me?

SPEAKER_02 44:27

Yeah, I think it you gotta if you're gonna work with someone you gotta work with people that you're cool with, you know.

SPEAKER_00 44:34

Like you can't be working with just like some randomly cool with like dudes that you you like people that you like you'll go to lunch with, you know, like yeah, they'll come to your baby shower or some shit, you feel me, or like your wedding or some shit, yeah. I mean but not just you don't work with everybody, bro. Like, cause a lot of people just be on bullshit, and uh when I'm down to work, I'm down to work, you feel me? Like, I'm not trying to just bullshit. So I kind of that's that's my approach and that's how I like that's what I do, yeah. I mean, like but yeah, I do like I look I got I get I get inspiration from from all, you know what I mean? And uh yeah, there are better producers than me. And some of them are some of them are my friends, you know, and I'm not ashamed to say that shit, you know what I mean? Like there's a lot of good, very good producer friends that I have that I'm just like wow, you know. And um I just leave it at that. I'll be wowed and like, alright, bet like let's see what the fuck I could cook up, you know, like make it better.

SPEAKER_02 45:54

Yeah. I think like for me right now, I'm just I'm still trying to like figure out what I want to make. So I don't wanna like go into a studio session with somebody and just kind of like bullshit around.

SPEAKER_00 46:09

Yeah, hell yeah. That's good too, because you don't want to waste nobody's time and shit, yeah. I mean, yeah. Especially if you I don't know if you like booking out studios and shit to make tracks and stuff. That's money.

SPEAKER_02 46:25

Yeah, no. It would just be like bedroom studio sessions.

SPEAKER_00 46:28

Oh yeah, that those that's cool. Yeah, that's hella cool. Yeah. But shit, waste of time sometimes, you know?

SPEAKER_02 46:36

Yeah, you're like, fuck, we just wasted like four hours and didn't come up with anything.

SPEAKER_00 46:40

Didn't come up with a goddamn thing. Fuck that. Like, I could have I could have spent the blocker, went and did some shit else, you know.

SPEAKER_02 46:49

Yeah, and it's just so convenient now. Like, all I have to do is just like move the mouse on my computer. I'm already cooking up something. Facts.

SPEAKER_00 46:58

Literally, I'll click on a sample and hear some shit and be like, alright, bet, I'm chopping the fuck out of this up. Yeah. And like see what happens, you know. Alright, get that 303 rocking and just hear that doo doo doo doo doo doo doo do do do do do do do and I'm like, alright, bet, like we got something here. Just start fucking with knobs and stuff, and like not really knowing what the fuck I'm I wanna do. I know what the knobs do nowadays, but like before, fuck around and find out, dude. Like that's the beauty of it. There's no right or wrong way to do shit. So clear your mind and have fun.

SPEAKER_02 47:37

When did you uh first start producing? Like what was I guess what year was it and like what did you start producing on?

SPEAKER_00 47:47

Um Alright, so I've been DJing since the eighth grade, and it wasn't until like 200 ten, basically my senior year, I um I got a cracked Ableton version. It was like live eight at the time.

SPEAKER_02 48:13

And uh got it off like Pirate Bay.

SPEAKER_00 48:17

Actually, no, I wasn't a cracked version. My friend gave me one of his licenses. Yeah, he gave me one of his licenses, and I was just watching him produce. I was watching him and the homie cook up and was just sitting there and observing, not even really asking questions and shit, just like watching these niggas, and like I was hella inspired. So I was like, yo, and I had my MacBook too at the time, and I was like, yo, like, I wanna learn how to produce. And the homie was like, here, I'll give you the key. And then nigga never taught me how to produce. So I was like, alright, bet, like I'ma just take matters into my own hands, and um, I had moved up to San Francisco, and I was going to school out there, and I just had time because I ain't know nobody and shit. I was just bedroom producing, and YouTube university showed me how to just make a hot ass beat clap, you know.

SPEAKER_02 49:29

Was there a lot of like YouTube tutorials then?

SPEAKER_00 49:34

There was actually. There was there was a lot, and I just basically wanted to know how to make noises because like the doll is already up. Yeah. So I'm just like, alright, like, how the fuck do I use all this shit? You know, it's not like you just hopping on like on analog gear, you could just press a fucking button, a key, or hit a drum pad and then or ding. You know, like now I had to like where do I get sounds and where do I get a drum rack and shit, you know? How do I load shit onto a drum rack so I can like make shit? I was already I already knew how to like read music and stuff. So I found producing very easily. I was in band from like what sixth grade to eighth grade. So I knew I played all percussion instruments, so I really love the drums and stuff, so that's what I really wanted to know how to like lay down, just like drums and stuff real quick. And good old YouTube university showed me before I started going to like music school. Yeah, and um yeah, I was learning I was I was learning how to produce already before even jumping into school. And um I made my first track, and my first track was called San Francisco Bounce, and uh I don't even have that track anymore. I've lost it a long, long time ago, but funny enough, I made that shit and I thought it was pretty cool at the time, and blogs were a thing back then, yeah, and you could like find good like underground tracks on blogs and stuff, and um, I hit up a blog and I sent them my music and they fucked with it, yo. And they they posted it, and I was like, alright, bet like I must not be horrible. I must not be horrible. Dog is getting to put on a blog, you know. Um I forget what blog this is. It was like the Music Ninja or some shit. Um, yeah, they did a writing of me and posted my track, and from there, I was like, alright, bet. I'ma just keep this rocking and really got hands deep with fucking learn how to use Ableton and stuff.

SPEAKER_02 52:14

Yeah, it's funny that you say that. Like you can't uh like if you were to open Ableton and you didn't know anything about Ableton, like you can't really like make anything because you don't even know how to like load up a drum rack.

SPEAKER_00 52:33

Click a fucking sample and drag it over to the audio and just press play. I was just like, I was looking at it, I was like, I know how to play. I'm I'm a gamer, I play video games, dude. So I I took the the approach of like, alright, bet like this is just another console, and um I'm gonna figure out how to play this shit, yo, and I did. Shout out to YouTube.

SPEAKER_02 53:00

Yeah. And uh the last one I did with Lando, he he was like, Yeah, I was like looking into the Matrix. Like, bro, that's so true.

SPEAKER_00 53:11

It literally I I loaded that bitch live eight. It's that that whole that doll is it's funny, yo. But I'll look I look at it now and I'm just like, damn, this shit is easy as fuck, yo. Like, but back then, opening that shit, I was like, what the fuck am I doing, bro? Like, yeah, I want to wild. Yeah, I was like, I wanna cook something, but like I don't even know what the fuck I'm doing, bro. So it was just it was good to go on YouTube and just learn how to make sounds come out of the doll, you know, and then from there I was like, alright, well now let's go get some sample packs and shit and try to fuck with this. And yeah.

SPEAKER_02 54:02

Do you uh do you use splice?

SPEAKER_00 54:05

I do not use splice.

SPEAKER_02 54:07

I knew that was gonna be your answer.

SPEAKER_00 54:09

I do not use splice at all. But I'll keep it a buck. I used to. Yeah, I I still use splice. I used to use splice. Like back then I was a fucking game changer, yo. It was like it was really cool for it at its time when I was first learning. And I I don't really give a shit what people have to say, bro. Like use what the fuck you gotta use, but like you eventually grow, you know.

SPEAKER_02 54:44

Yeah, you do. You start using it less and less.

SPEAKER_00 54:45

Yeah, you start using it less and less, and like that's that's my whole thing about it. Like use use use what you use, you know, but like always grow because with the music it's forward thinking music, so use it, use your tools wisely and shit, you know. Yeah, I think the only reason people get annoyed is because it's like people just rip splice samples just straight up, like facts, no, no processing, no, no nothing, no, they not chopping shit up, they not trying to pitch nothing down. They'll literally take that sample and put it in their shit and be like, this me. Like, no nigga. I heard that shit on splice, bro. Like, you not faking nobody, gang. Like, we we done heard this before, you feel me? Like, lock in, dog.

SPEAKER_02 55:44

Like, yeah, I think for drums it's fine, and just like little one-shots here and there. Yeah, drums, drums are cool, little one-shots, like a shaker loop, like yeah, little rolls hi-hats and stuff. But don't just use the vocals and just like these melodies straight up.

SPEAKER_00 56:01

Exactly. Like using vocals, using like strings and pianos and stuff like that, and literally just ripping it. It is tempting though, because you're like, damn, this shit sounds good. That do sound good. I ain't gonna lie, the shit do be sounding good sometimes, but add your own flavor to it, and that's the beauty of like being a producer. Like, yeah, you can you can use a sound, but it's all in how you use it, how you manipulate it and stuff. Yeah, how you cook it. How you cook it up, you know.

SPEAKER_02 56:38

Um so you started you started DJing before you started producing?

SPEAKER_01 56:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 56:46

So you said this was you were in high school when you started producing?

SPEAKER_00 56:52

I was in high school when I started DJing.

SPEAKER_02 56:56

And then once you got out of high school is when you started production. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 57:00

And you uh did you start on vinyl? I did start on vinyl. I started on vinyl because my neighbor, he had some technique 1200s and a mixer, and he was a hip hop DJ. And this dude ripped, I'm telling you, like just a casual dude, you know, this my neighbor Bruce. Black dude, he loved the fucking Raiders, and like I mean he had kids too, and like they were my age, so like we would always play and shit. I think at the well, his daughter was like really cute, and so I would I was trying to holla, and um I would just find an excuse to go over there. But Bruce was basically her like neighborhood DJ. Yeah. Anytime, like 4th of July's, anytime the Raiders would go to the playoffs or somehow make it to the Super Bowl, this dude have a party, and like he had the whole block cracking and stuff, so like I I think I was getting in trouble or some shit. I couldn't play sports that year, and my mom was like, You need to do something. And I was like, I think I wanna be a DJ because I kept going over to Bruce's and I spent hours over there with him, and he'd be mixing and stuff, and he play, he his vinyl collection was stupid, he still got it, and it's it's dumb lit, just all underground hip hop and cuts that were just lit. He never he didn't even play house music, that's the thing. He played all hip-hop music, so I learned how to play hip-hop first, and then he would just take me along with him to like different parties and stuff, you know, and I'd help him set up the equipment and stuff. So that's how I learned how to like set up gear. Damn, that's tight. Yeah, and um, yeah, he he showed me how to mix and stuff, and um he got Serato, and when he got Serato, he got a laptop and he was like, Yeah, this is what all the new guys is doing this shit. So he was getting on Serrado, and um my mom was she saw that I was very interested in this shit. And um I would say she was my f she's my first supporter, actually. So um, yeah, my neighbor Bruce, he got he got Serato and the the whatcha call it, the little vinyls that the scratch vinyl that go with it. And so my mom on Christmas of uh I forget what year it was, um, I got a brand new MacBook and she bought me some control vinyls and she bought me Serato, yo, and uh that was a great fucking day. She bought me a blue one and a white one just to like match the Dodgers because I'm a big Dodgers fan. She was like, you're not gonna get black and white Raiders. Yeah, she was like, Yeah, you I was like, she got me blue and white ones, and I went over to uh Bruce's house and I got the cooking. And um from there I met like DJs that were coming up even in my own city. Like I lived in uh San Bernardino um growing up. And uh shout out to the homie Walter and the homie Snatch and English and DJ Lightsoff, like all these cats, I mean DJ Rowdy A, like all these guys they played at like Gotham and shit like that, and those were like the those were the little raves that we all went to out there when it was cracking and shit. So like yeah, I got like my little foot in the door with all those guys, and like those guys ripped, and they play music all over the board, not just fucking EDM shit. Like these dudes rip hip-hop, these dudes rip like Spanish music, bro. Like these dudes, like niggas think that these DJs out here just cause they play house music are just top tier. Fuck no, bro. Yeah, like there's a lot of cats in the IE that like they got it, bro, and they they still got it. They still doing they thing, but like, it's just different, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:45

Yeah, open format DJing like that is so much harder.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:49

Yeah, dude, but like they know how to connect with the people, and like that's a beautiful thing, and they've been doing that shit. Yeah, even then they saw me when I was younger, yeah. I mean, like, and they didn't ever hated on me. They always embraced me, like, and taught me things and shit, yeah. So shout out to them guys, because without them guys, like, I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing right now, you know? So those guys, they definitely showed me the way for sure. Yeah, not uh proud to say it too, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:29

I mean, yeah, sometimes it feels like when you're around just like people that are better than you at anything, that yeah you would think that they would just be like assholes, like trying to gatekeep, but you those are usually the guys that are down to just like help whoever.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:44

Yeah, like and those and like their attitude that showed me like don't be an asshole, yeah. I mean, like I can be an asshole, like but not an asshole in that way, like I'm just not like trying to stop you from growing and shit. Like, I want I want to see all the homies grow. So if I got some tips and something I can share with with people, that's what I'm gonna do, you know. I'm gonna help. Yeah, but um don't be on no bullshit, yeah. I mean, because like I'll I can see that shit, I can spot that shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:19

Yeah, and it's funny just to me when I see people doing that, I'm like, bro, the industry is so small. Fast at some point it's just gonna get around back to you, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:32

Yeah, dude, like that and that's just life general, yo. Like, it's you do some shit and like people know, like, there's it's gonna get come back around. Yeah, I mean, you do some fuck shit, and it's gonna always come back around. Like, karma is a real bitch, and um it'll fucking kick your ass. So I think the best thing to do is like always just try to be good and if you ain't really got nothing nice to say, don't say it at all. Don't say it at all. Keep it pushing, you know. Like don't nobody need that, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:11

I mean um I wanted to ask you. We I saw this thing the other day. It was uh who the fuck was it? It was a rapper. He was on some podcasts. It was Lil Yachty. Yeah. And he was like saying how artists nowadays there's no like mystique or like uh no mysteriousness. Yeah, it's no mysteriousness about artists anymore. Like everyone just overshares everything and like is posting TikToks and stuff. Yeah, facts. And I feel like he's right. Yeah. But at the same time all these big artists are like having to do that now just to like stay relevant.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:05

It's I don't know, I don't know what to say about that really. Like me, I kinda still have that mysterious like thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:17

Yeah. Like I think more people need to do that.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:20

Yeah, because like dude, is like I say, bro, like we play music. Like we're not fucking brain surgeons and shit, bro. Like nobody really gives a shit. You feel me? But at the same time, people do care. But like you wanna you don't wanna just be all the way out there because dude, like, you'll get burnt the fuck out. Like and you don't you you wanna preserve yourself, yo, cause like it's just how long how long do you wanna do this shit for? You wanna do this shit forever or do you wanna just do this shit for while it's cool right now, and then Go off and do some other go off and do the next cool thing that's yeah now and stuff and like no not for me like what I've been doing is cool already and I don't need to like boast about it or post TikToks and shit like it's cool to do that use all the tools like I say use all the tools and shit but like it comes to a point where niggas is doing like way too fucking much you know producer tutorials every fucking day like I don't care how you fucking made your track bro like I I really don't I don't give not a single fuck about how you made the track it does it sound good can I fucking play that shit is it gonna be on vinyl like what's the deal like what you doing with it or is it just another fucking track that you're just gonna have in the fucking bolt that you're never gonna fucking show to the world like yeah what's the fucking fun in that you know because I think the era of just like like Kanye and all these just hella mysterious motherfuckers yeah is gone. No it's it's super gone yo because they've already hit a plateau of like greatness so like it's at this point now it's like now they're just I feel like motherfuckers is just bored bro like you're you're that bored that you need to like you need to do TikToks to stay relevant like the music should keep you relevant your good music should have kept should keep you relevant you know yeah not the shit that you go off and like oh fucking blah blah blah blah blah or blah blah blah blah blah let me do a TikTok or I'm gonna do this dance and fuck all that you know like you wanna just I don't know for me we did it to ourselves yeah we did we did and like we have no one to blame but ourselves yo like because once one guy saw that it worked we were fucked after that it was super fucked like disco lines made that shit fucking go like we were I knew we were done yeah man that was it we were cooked we were so cooked like my grandma got a TikTok bruh like what what is she posting on there no she just be watching shit oh she's just trolling she'd just be watching shit and trolling to be like well I learned this recipe off of TikTok like what I mean there's hella good recipes on the thing. There's a beauty and a curse to it all yo but like you don't want to sell yourself out. That's I feel like that's just you're just selling out like I have a TikTok but I don't post shit on there to blow up. I we I play underground dance music for crying out loud like this shit is not I'm not making no money like ain't nobody making money off underground dance music. Yeah so this shit is for the culture and if anything it's for your life bro like this is you're making a stamp for your yourself in this big but small community you know and like like I said everybody wants to be somebody and um what I want to be is just known as a good DJ a good producer but most important just a good person like fuck the music shit like I want people to know that they could like rely on me and shit you know like I'm there for them and stuff just like and that type of shit makes your music better you feel me like you don't have to stress about like oh I fuck this person over they're gonna try to come after me now I gotta watch over my back and all that shit you know like you're like the dude from New York. Yeah I'm just the boy I'm just a dude on the block yeah I mean like I just do cool shit because like that's what I want to do.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:19

Like yeah I feel that I feel like a lot of people are just like like you're saying trying to get something out of it or be somebody they're trying to get something out of it or be something you know it's like man like you did you peak in high school or something bro like like what the fuck is going on? No they're trying to they're trying to peak now.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:41

They're trying to peak now because they didn't peak in high school and it's like you're almost 30 something years old dude like what are we doing TikToks for yeah like but fuck it use your TikTok you know like burn yourself out if you want you know like eventually you can do it however you want to do it.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:06

That's the beauty of it.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:07

Yeah there's no right or wrong way to like do this shit you know some people choose to do that route and you know like sure they're playing cool parties and stuff you know that's how they had that's what they had to do to get on. Yeah like there's a f a million ways there's there's a million ways to do it and there's no wrong way but there is um I will say there's a respectable way like I'm not about to go kiss niggas ass is to go play music like I'm totally fine kicking it with my girlfriend and my dog and driving my whip around California like period bro like I'm I'm about doing other shit bro like I love the parties I love playing at the parties and I love making the music but that's that it's all fun. Like I want to continue to have fun with it and I never want this shit to burn me out because this music shit like it it will drive you fucking crazy you know like you can you'll be depressed and stuff some sometimes like seeing your peers playing parties that you know you should be playing and stuff you know or some motherfucker that just learned how to DJ is fucking playing a party that you know you should be fucking playing and like boom or some fucking transplant is doing something that you know damn well you should be doing you know and like you never want to get like that like you want to be so comfortable and in your bag that like none of this shit even phases you so that's that's been my whole like approach on this whole music shit I mean even when I was in New York I was like that and I was around tons of motherfuckers that are better than me. Like being able to kick it with the Martinez brothers and Danny Tanoglia and like some of our some underground like people that we like like to see today like Apollonian shit dude like I was setting up parties for them in New York for resolute and shit dude like being able to talk to those guys and them knowing you and like they only know you for being a good person. You know or just being a person. They don't even know that you DJ and shit but like when they see you it's what's up you know like you can be friends with your favorite DJs and shit and people that you like look up to and stuff now you know like that whole star struck factor leaves the fucking door when you're when you know what you got you know you know what you have to offer and stuff. You don't look at these people like oh my god like you look at them as alright cool another one of your peers and shit that you respect and they respect you so keep going you know and it's they're just regular ass people at the end of the day they just you find out that they just regular motherfuckers too like they trying to just cook up they trying to smoke they trying to fucking go and have some good food and stuff you know like and funny enough some of them might even be so cool to be like yo we playing basketball on Tuesdays and shit you know like regular people shit on there's doing regular people shit because regular people shit is fun. Yeah it is when you want to just party party fucking get all fucking coked out and cade out and shit and spend your Saturdays and going through Sundays and Mondays like that dude like that shit that shit's played out like tired of seeing the same fucking party people all the fucking time and shit you know like let's go shoot some hoops yeah let's go shoot some hoops like yeah let's I'll I would love to kick it with you but like outside of a fucking party setting like let's see how you are outside of the party you know like are you are you actually cool? Like that's that's where I'm at in life now you know because it's kind of a been there done that type shit you know like and when I'm 30 about to be 34 and I just I I'm I'm good at this shit. I know I'm good at this shit because like I wouldn't I wouldn't still be doing this shit and like the good things in this whole music this shit wouldn't keep happening if if I wasn't yeah you know so as long as I just want to preserve myself and preserve my mental and be happy because this shit makes me happy and it's it kept me out of so much trouble growing up dude like I owe music my life basically dude like I don't know where the fuck I'd be if I wasn't like doing this shit you feel because it takes up so much time. It does and fucking gooning out yeah and a lot of my like coolest experiences and stuff in life has always happened because of this music shit bro like going to New York shit I've been to Miami and Chicago and Detroit um up and down California and shit bro like Arizona Las Vegas and shit just places that love this music and like being able to go to those places and be recognized is like it's I wouldn't have been able to do that shit doing something else yeah I mean like so because even if you don't make any money doing it you still got to do all of that I still got to do that shit you feel me and can't nobody take that shit away from you you feel me like you did that shit you went out there you made those connections like New York is a second home to me you know I mean like I know I know where to get a fucking bacon egg and cheese you know like I'm bacon yeah like I know how to I'm a like I've I know how to be a New Yorker now you feel me like that's is you just adapt to all the surroundings that you are without becoming that like you just stay yourself and maneuver around anywhere and shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:57

Yeah what time are we at hour twenty?

SPEAKER_00 1:18:02

Yeah we can wrap this wrap this thing up I try to keep them at an hour just because people's brains are rotted from TikTok people's attention spans are fucked yo like if you don't grasp their attentions in like 30 seconds then you're cooked bro that shit's too funny uh but plug yourself how can people find your music all that basically just hit me up dog I'm excited I'm on Instagram I got uh SoundCloud uh Sco or I think on SoundCloud it's uh Sarosco slash Sko um I'll put all your links in that yeah Instagram it's little school3x underscore you can see what I'm doing and talking shit and just basically just meming it out like the homie Lando. Yeah we love the memes yeah we love the memes and then um what else I got a new record that's coming out on Brooklyn Sway so those look out on your record stores and online record stores you know this is on vinyl yeah this is on vinyl nice um yeah shout out to Brooklyn Sway the homie Jay and Ash for putting me on that shit's cool I'll be out in New York in May um so we'll be playing a party out there with the Brooklyn Sway fam. It'd be good to go back to New York and play I haven't been out there in a year yeah it's been like a year or two since I've been out there so that would be cool that will be cool and then um shit what else basically if you just go on my Instagram like you can go to my like has everything yeah it got links like a landing page yeah I got the link tree up and you can like see all of my music and just all the shit nice um yeah this will be I'll put this up this will go up on Monday Monday yeah Monday what's today's date today is the 14th so Monday the 16th this will be up so sick hell yeah thanks for coming on this is fun dude we gotta spin there uh play some shit yeah dude um we at my grandma's house right now I don't got decks and stuff like but this is kind of where it all started for me this is this is like my paradise and stuff yo like shout out to grandma yeah shout out grandma my grandma my grandpa just passed so I'm sorry about that he uh he would have been happy about all of this this guy uh set up a lot he did a lot and um shout out to grandpa bro but big shout out to grandma for still holding it down shout out to moms shout out to uncles shout out to the cousins my nigga Smooth Gary the whole block you already know the threes um and shout out to my girlfriend yo my girlfriend Marissa is amazing and we have a little dog mochi and uh mochi's the best your uh your son that's my son yo don't fuck with mochi he'll get you you might catch mochi at the after hours too you know he what kind of dog is this he's a shihtsu and a lapsoapso lapsoapso yeah I don't even fucking know but they're big dogs and does that even happen but this is a little small dog that's my he's my little dude but uh his bark is vicious that dude for a little guy he bark like a big ass dog that's funny that shit is funny as hell I love mochi shout out mochi but yeah uh we'll see you guys in the next one peace peace