Dad You Should Never Say That!
Ever wondered what happens when a dad and his daughter sit down, turn on the mics, and let the conversation flow? Welcome to “Dad, You Should Never Say That!”—the podcast where no topic is off-limits, and no dad joke is too embarrassing.
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Dad You Should Never Say That!
Episode 28: Gas, Gas Baby
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In this episode of The Dad You Should Never Say That Podcast, Micah and Addie kick things off with a very important conversation about gas prices, then somehow end up in a full-blown debate about college, AP credits, minimum wage, server life, and why some jobs feel way more exhausting than they should. They also talk through the weirdly specific joy of Waffle House, the superiority of certain late-night food spots, and what kind of restaurant each of them would actually want to run.
Along the way, they spiral into classic podcast chaos with ideas like shock-collar trivia, birth simulators, Jackbox games that get way too inappropriate, and the ongoing question of whether adults should be trusted to make decisions after a certain number of caffeinated drinks. It’s funny, a little unhinged, and exactly the kind of conversation that proves Micah and Addie should probably never be left unsupervised with a microphone.
If you like off-the-rails family banter, food arguments, college rants, and deeply questionable business ideas, this episode is for you.
Dude, I filled up my car and it was like super a lot of money.
SPEAKER_03Your truck.
SPEAKER_00It used to not be a lot of money. I mean I could fill it for like$45.
SPEAKER_02That's cheaper than my normal tank of gas.
SPEAKER_00What?
SPEAKER_02A tank of gas is for well my tank of gas normally is like 60 bucks.
SPEAKER_00Stop putting premium in it.
SPEAKER_02I don't put premium in it. Premium would hurt my hurt my car.
SPEAKER_00I think you have like an 18-gallon tank, and I think mine's like 21. Anyway.
SPEAKER_02Well, I have more than 18 gallons.
SPEAKER_00It's way more than it used to be. And I don't get it because we have a lot of oil and gas around here. So why can't we as Texans not pay our fair share and just pay what we should be paying?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I live in the oil fields and our gas is still super expensive.
SPEAKER_00Can you just drive your Jeep over there to like one of the places and then just can they just fill you? Oh, that's oil. Never mind. They gotta make it into gas.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I wonder if that's like a real thing. Can you just like uh like an oil change stop? Probably not. Just drive your car over to the oil derrick, and then some dudes are in there and they're like, Yeah, we'll change your oil, and they can put it right from the thing.
SPEAKER_02I don't think that's a thing, Dad. Unfortunately.
SPEAKER_00What do they have to do to it to make it go in the in the car?
SPEAKER_02I don't know. I'm not a petroleum engineer.
SPEAKER_00Well, we need to get one of them on the show. You need to go walk around your campus and find one of those people. We'll have them on the show and they can answer all of my oil and gas questions.
SPEAKER_02Okay. You know, you could also probably just Google it.
SPEAKER_00I could, but it's not as fun as like getting it from somebody who may know what they're talking about, or they're just gonna make shit up as on the spot.
SPEAKER_02Right. Okay.
SPEAKER_00Because, you know, they have a uh they've been to a class or two. Um understand why people are listening. I mean why people aren't listening.
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah, well, welcome back to the Dod You Should Never Say That podcast podcast where nothing matters and we'd never know what we're talking about.
SPEAKER_00Uh this is episode There's lots of things that matter. The points don't matter as far as who says awesome things and who says stupid things.
SPEAKER_02Because more than likely, our bar I don't know if anybody gets that reference.
SPEAKER_00Our bar is pretty low.
SPEAKER_02I don't know if anybody gets the reference of the points.
SPEAKER_00It's from whose line is it anyway.
SPEAKER_02I understand that, but I don't think anybody who listens to us would get that reference.
SPEAKER_00They need to go watch it on Roar or I tried to watch it the other day and I couldn't watch it anywhere. When on Hulu?
SPEAKER_02No.
SPEAKER_00Don't you have a Visio TV?
SPEAKER_02What? No, I have a Roku.
SPEAKER_00You have a Roku TV? Go to like the Roku channels.
SPEAKER_02Oh no, I have a Visio.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Go to the Revisio TV and they have all these weird ass channels. Dude, they have an A-Team channel.
SPEAKER_02Oh no, I don't have like no, I can't access it like that. It's an old TV, so it doesn't have like all the apps on it.
SPEAKER_00I don't know.
SPEAKER_02For like the Visio. No, I just have Veroku, and that's what I or I have an Apple TV.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_02So on the Apple TV.
SPEAKER_00Um yeah, I don't know.
SPEAKER_03Who knows?
SPEAKER_00Anyway, that's a great show. Ryan is pretty funny. Wayne Brady's on it. Colin Mockery. Alan Colin Mockery still runs around and does some kind of crazy improv stuff.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Some old dudes.
SPEAKER_00What?
SPEAKER_02Some old guys.
SPEAKER_00Why are you making fun of old guys? I think maybe you can watch it on uh Prime.
SPEAKER_02But you have to buy it.
SPEAKER_00Why?
SPEAKER_02I don't know. That's just what it says.
SPEAKER_00Why is it it's on the CW? No one watches the CW, so it should be like free.
SPEAKER_03Who knows?
SPEAKER_00Anyway, how was your week, Dad? Uh what did I do? Is it what did what did I do this week?
SPEAKER_01I don't know.
SPEAKER_00I don't even remember. Thursday. God. Oh, I went to a conference on Tuesday. I didn't learn anything. It was boring as crap. Um, it was for uh foundation stuff, and they were just teaching me all the other crap I already know. So um that's kind of boring when you're sitting like half a day. They had really good steaks though.
SPEAKER_02So was it worth it?
SPEAKER_00Shout out to the the grill guy at the uh Lost Pines Hyatt Resort. Your steaks. Oh my gosh. Didn't even need a one. But the lady did not know how to make an old-fashioned, and therefore she should be fired. So lady at the bar who can't make an old-fashioned, um, bye. You're at a ritzy place. It's kind of ritzy over there. It's hidden in the woods in Bass Drop. It takes like a long time to get over there. So I did that, and then yesterday I worked here Monday. I don't remember what I did Monday. I probably did the same thing. Nothing just worked. Just worked. Just worked. Which is fine.
SPEAKER_02My week wasn't eventful either. Nothing crazy happened. It's we're we're in the last like two and a half weeks of school, so me and my roommate aren't really doing much, you know. We're doing homework. She got a lifeguard certification, but when it comes to going to class, kind of dropping the ball on that one.
SPEAKER_00Stagnant, a little senior itis, even though you're freshman.
SPEAKER_02Well, okay, so everybody talks about like that summer or the semester, like the month before like senior in like your senior in like high school anthropologists, but it's like at that point, you don't have to go. Like, I okay, I'm just gonna say this. I graduated high school, number 40th in my class, top 7%, and my senior year, I had 180 absences. Like you can miss school and still graduate very good your senior year, like it doesn't matter.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_02Um, and that's absences and Tardis. So, and a lot of those were excused, but anyway. Like you you can do these kinds of things, but when you're in college and you're like that last semester freshman year, you're like, dang, like I just want to go home. Like, I want to go to this like home for the summer. Like, luckily, me and my roommate aren't tired of each other, so we don't have that problem. But we know some roommates that are like just tired of their roommate and don't like them.
SPEAKER_00I mean, I can see that.
SPEAKER_02And so then you're just like, dude, like what's what's even the point? Like, summers in two and a half weeks, we get to go home, like we don't even have to stay in Lubbock, we get to go home, like most people have plans and everything.
SPEAKER_00Like basically what you're saying is that every parent or student that pays for college is paying for two months that you're not doing anything except thinking about summer. That's what I just heard.
SPEAKER_02No, it's not two months, it's like it's it's just the last month. Like once you hit April, yeah, everybody just kind of gives up. At least in their freshman year. I feel like other years might be better because you're in classes that are like interesting and fun and cool or whatever.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_02But there's just something about that lot the last month of the semester that's really been hitting everybody hard. Yeah, especially because like my roommate just said, it's classes that don't matter. Like it's stuff you need for your like basics or whatever, but it's not stuff you're interested in.
SPEAKER_00I mean, you should be interested in learning how to talk or math or no. Not really. Aren't those people's basics?
SPEAKER_02Well, basics, yeah. Basics is like math, communications, like US government and Texas politics, uh, English. Well, some majors require science, stuff like that.
SPEAKER_00So let's just say we were making the rules. Would we make a rule to where if you were like uh if you got all A's in high school in English, that you never have to take an English class again. So when you get to college, you're just taking your core classes, or would you need another English class?
SPEAKER_02Well, no, we have that. We we literally have that. It's called AP or IB classes.
SPEAKER_00No, no, no, no, I get that.
SPEAKER_02But just like reg normies, what if Oh no, normie classes don't normie classes are nothing like AP or college classes. Okay, so if you took you you would have to take AP or pass the AP test or take, you know, um an on-ramps class or whatever the equivalent to your college courses, like your dual enrollment courses. Okay, like those those are the best thing you could do because you're then you're getting high school and college credit at the same time so that when you get to college, you get to actually take the stuff that you want. Like for me, for example, me and my roommate, we're both graduating a year early because of how many credits we came in with. So we're after this year, as a technically we'll be juniors next year, which means that we actually get to take the classes that we want to take. We don't have to sit and take basics for another year.
SPEAKER_00Right. And uh let's just revisit that's because you took an AP test after the AP class.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Now what happens when you got dual credit? Pass that AP test.
SPEAKER_02Well, you get the high school credit, um, and you don't get the college credit.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_02So it's kind of AP is one of those things that's kind of a toss-up, but I only didn't pass two AP tests out of the millions that I took. Not millions, but out of like the nine I took, I only didn't pass two. And one of them was because like they had changed the AP test, and my professor like didn't teach us what we were supposed to be learning. Um and like he even admitted it and now is like literally no longer allowed to teach AP. Um, but like I had 105 in the college course or in the high school course right for that class, and then the only other one I didn't pass, I think wasn't it like no, that was statistics, and then world geography. Oh I don't know why I didn't pass world geography, but I didn't.
SPEAKER_00So well, we should let's get into politics and then let's change all the rules. That would be fun.
SPEAKER_03No.
SPEAKER_02So like everybody has to take AP their senior year so that when they get to Well, some people don't even go to college or they go to you know, they go to trade school or cosmetology school or they just go into the workforce and be blue-collar, or like there's there's reasons that people don't take AP, and it's because a lot of the times, so you have to pay for AP courses, which is a little bit of a hindrance for some people.
SPEAKER_00Correct.
SPEAKER_02Um, because you have to pay for the test if you're in dual if you're in dull enrollment, you have to pay for the college side of it. So that makes it a little bit difficult for some people just on like being able to afford it. So well, yeah, but let's just say AP was great for me, but it's not great for everybody.
SPEAKER_00Alright. I'm just trying to think of a way to not have to go to college for four years and you spend your two years doing just upgraded versions of what you did before. No, yeah, I don't know.
SPEAKER_02And other states might have different requirements. I just know that this is the requirements. Like, so for example, we have Texas requirements, we have Texas Tech requirements, and then on top of that, I have the arts and sciences requirements. And your honors I well, honors college is different.
SPEAKER_00You got four requirements.
SPEAKER_02Okay, so I walked in with almost all of my Texas, like the state of Texas requirements done.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_02Half of my Texas tech requirements done, and none of my arts and science requirements done. So this year I've been taking my arts and sciences requirements, as well as some stuff for my major, but mainly my arts and sciences requirements. So it's like even if I came in like I did with all of my Texas and part of my Texas tech, I would still have to take basics because the college that you're in and the university you're at have specific things they want you to take.
SPEAKER_01Gotcha.
SPEAKER_02Like I have to take two more English classes for funsies because my major requires because my college requires it.
SPEAKER_00Mmm. And you can't like AP those in somehow?
SPEAKER_02No, because so the AP English, you probably could for like Britlit, like if you took AP Britlet, but like your normal AP lit and AP Lang in high school covers your English 1301 and 130. So two. So I walked in with English 1301 because I got a three on both exams, and I needed a four on one of them to get the qualify for both. So I I only had to take English 1302. But I still have to take two more English classes.
SPEAKER_00Ooh, what are you gonna take? I don't know. Literature.
SPEAKER_02No, I think I'm gonna take Bible as literature, but they're not offering it next semester.
SPEAKER_00Oh, so you gotta wait.
SPEAKER_02And then I'm gonna oh, I'm taking intro to creative writing next semester.
SPEAKER_00That's a good one. Because then you can have notes for this podcast.
SPEAKER_02Well, it's like short stories and poems and whatever.
SPEAKER_00Right, we could read short stories every episode. I don't know about that one. There once was a man named Ben who sat on the fence at age ten. He fell off of the fence, jammed his toe, and he winced. And he said, I'm never getting on that damn fence.
SPEAKER_02Hey, watch your language.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I know. I've been feisty the past couple days.
SPEAKER_02You've been feisty? Why are you in feisty?
SPEAKER_00I'll have to put a beep button on your own.
SPEAKER_02Are you are you on your are you on your period?
SPEAKER_00Maybe.
SPEAKER_02Are you on your myriad? Your man period.
SPEAKER_00Is there a thing called a man period?
SPEAKER_02No, there's a thing called the man cold, though, which I think is funny. It's like when men get sick and they like when a man gets a cold and they act like it's the end of the world, it's called the man cold.
SPEAKER_00I mean, I think that's a made-up thing.
SPEAKER_02Just because I've only seen you sick a handful of times.
SPEAKER_00I am a man and I have been sick.
SPEAKER_02I've only seen you sick a handful of times at the moment, though. But when you are sick, I will say you're you're down for the count.
SPEAKER_00Um yeah, I usually but also pretty rough. When I get sick that sick, it's like when you're gonna have your baby. It's almost equivalent, it's the same.
SPEAKER_02No, yeah, but good try.
SPEAKER_00It's like my tummy hurts a little bit. I'm eating, I want to eat all the time, some soup. I gotta go, I gotta go to the bathroom every all the time. My water may break when I pee. I mean, it's almost the same.
SPEAKER_02No, but okay. You're gonna get dissed for that, by the way.
SPEAKER_00Nobody comments on this thing anyway. So I got one text message, one podcast uh message, one email, one DM. Nothing. Nothing, so I'm not really worried about it. These people watched this.
SPEAKER_02This is like the episode we we like to famous off of. Yeah, and it's you saying it's a joke, guys. This is a comedy podcast. It's a joke.
SPEAKER_00Is it is it though? I mean, I have had my stomach hurt a lot real hard once. And I haven't had a baby, but I think that's pretty much what it was like.
SPEAKER_02I want to get a birth simulator and make you put it on.
SPEAKER_00Oh, dang, we should do that. And then uh, I wonder if you can do it like over a long period of time.
SPEAKER_02Well, there's like a there's like a there's like a test where you have to like if you put it on your arm and then you're supposed to put it on your arm and see if you can like drink a bottle of water.
SPEAKER_00No, I know, but like can you can I wear it here and then you trigger it from over there? Or do I have to or do I have to do like self-triggering?
SPEAKER_02I don't think so.
SPEAKER_00We should see if we can rent one from Amazon. And I'll I'll have to I have to do the whole episode with that thing on. And we'll put it at like uh I don't know what the days are. Four days before birth.
SPEAKER_02No, it's not like that. It's like levels, so it's like one through ten.
SPEAKER_00Oh. Um I don't know. I've never seen those.
SPEAKER_02They're like little patches and they send like uh pulses out.
SPEAKER_00Almost like shocking you like a dog collar?
SPEAKER_02Kind of, but it's like supposed to emulate like period pain, the like your cervix moving, things like that.
SPEAKER_00We should also do that. Maybe that's another episode we could do, is where we wear dog collars the whole episode.
SPEAKER_02No, and then we shock each other.
SPEAKER_00We no, we can't shock each other. There's like a I don't know if it's like a it's like a bark one. So if you speak too loud, you get jacked. That would be fun. Because then it'd be like, hey, I'm gonna raise my ah I don't want to s yeah, I don't want to set it off. That's no fun. I mean, set yours off. Like that would be mean.
SPEAKER_02We should do a trivia one where if you get it wrong, you get shot.
SPEAKER_00Oh, you get zapped.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, we have to be like next, we have to be like in the same camera.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and maybe that one's like a group, like uh we have to have two or three people in that one. Depending on who wants to shop.
SPEAKER_02You know what? I come home a couple in a couple weeks. We could get the gang together.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, oh yeah, we could play uh jackbox games.
SPEAKER_02Very special episode.
SPEAKER_00Jackbox games. Everybody works.
SPEAKER_02We can't film those. We can't we can't film those, dude.
SPEAKER_00From our side.
SPEAKER_02Oh, like not say what it says.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, we're not gonna say what it is because it's all on the screen. Uh, and those let's just talk about those for a minute. Those games need to calm down a little bit. They are if okay, listeners, you there's a level of inappropriate that you would think is normal. Let's just say uh let's say four is normal, and then let's say six, this is all out of ten. Six is a little inappropriate, like some humor, maybe some some body part jokes, maybe some fart or whatever. Just kind of your normal low-level dirty humor. I sat in this couch with like with five of the daughters and then two other people. I think there was eight of us, right? Seven or eight.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, seven or eight of us.
SPEAKER_00It was the worst inappropriate game I have ever played in my life. And I've been to college and I had stupid games at my house when I was 20. It was worse than all of those. Yeah, they're I don't even know where you guys come up with this stuff.
SPEAKER_02Like, okay, so Jackbox, it's it's technically family friendly. Like you can play with your like with your younger kids. We started playing a long time ago, but then as you get older, you start thinking of funnier things and more inappropriate things that are also funny. So then you just start saying those things, and you just have a good time, and it's funny.
SPEAKER_00And that is because you don't fear your parent that is in the room saying anything or shutting the game off, or no, I don't. Don't worry, my dad's weak. He's not gonna turn the game off.
SPEAKER_02No, but so like on Jackbox, there's like my favorite is trivia, because I think it's really not like nobody ever knows the answer, which is always funny. Um when like you just like guess right. So like there's murder party trivia, which is funny, it's just like trivia. Um, and then our there's a couple of our other favorites where you do make jokes, like there's one called survive the internet, that one which is hilarious because like you're given A prompt, you have to respond to the prompt, and then the other then somebody gets your answer, and they have to basically make it sound bad, depending on like whatever the topic is.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, the prompt, the prompt that you get, and everybody gets a different one sometimes.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so there's that one, there's joke boat, which is um I'm trying to think of the equivalent to joke boat. Joke boat is basically like you get the start of a joke, and then you finish the joke, and then you like go up against other people and try to see which one's funnier.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Essentially. You get the starter, you do the punchline, and then it's punchline versus punchline.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And then someone win everybody votes on who's win, and then of course you get more points, blah blah blah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. And those might be the most out of hand.
SPEAKER_00Those are because yeah, and people get picked on uh because of their their uh I don't want to call them code names, but because of their given nickname.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So you can tell who's talking about who, or yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um yeah, no, there's definitely every time we play that game, everybody's name gets inputted at some point. Um, because you get to like write almost not like topics, but you get to write like the word to begin the joke almost. Um and so everybody's name gets thrown in there at some point, and it just people just start getting dissed, which is kind of funny. People get dissed in survive the internet more though, because it's easier to diss people.
SPEAKER_00And there's pictures in Survive the Internet.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, there's there's pictures, there's a whole picture section. Yeah, like I have I have pictures of when we play this game of like the funny moments, because I'm just like, this is this is out of hand and hilarious.
SPEAKER_00Um and me as a 50-something adult. Um, there have been You giggle. I giggle, and then the other time I was like, oh my gosh, I can't believe I'm sitting with these guys.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, like there's the most recent time we played, there were some Epstein jokes. Uh there were there were some there were some pretty bad ones the last couple times we played.
SPEAKER_00And from what you're telling me, is it's only gonna get worse as more people get comfortable.
SPEAKER_02Uh probably.
SPEAKER_00We've had people play for the first time and then they're like looking around like, is this is this okay?
SPEAKER_02Oh, like Al?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, like uh We need a nickname for her. Other than Al?
SPEAKER_02Other than Al.
SPEAKER_00Well, we need to see her.
SPEAKER_02We should just call her Little.
SPEAKER_00Lil's Lil's What's up, Lil's?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, she's now just Lil. Val, if you're listening to this, your sister's new name is Lil.
SPEAKER_00Or we'll just call her Waffle House, because that was the first time she showed up.
SPEAKER_02What up, Waffle House? HW or W H.
SPEAKER_00Dyslexic. It's not House of Waffles.
SPEAKER_02Do we talk? Oh, yeah, we did talk about our Waffle House last episode. Our Waffle House experience. Um I need them to put a Waffle House in Lubbock because like we have a 24-hour IHOP, but it's so sketchy that I'm like, I don't want to go.
SPEAKER_00It's sketchier than that last Waffle House we went to.
SPEAKER_02Bro, it's rough, and it's right next to a really sketchy gas station. Like, it's in a rough area.
SPEAKER_00And that pancake place, which is really good, it doesn't open until like six and closes at like two.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, no, I the our our iHop is 24 hours, and I think we have a 24 hour Denny's somewhere near not next to campus.
SPEAKER_00Denny's is comparable to Waffle House. They have somewhat of the same.
SPEAKER_02Nothing is comparable to Waffle House. Wow. Waffle House is its own, like whoever came up with Waffle House was probably doing drugs.
SPEAKER_00Why? You don't like the colors?
SPEAKER_02No, I think it's great. I just think that it's I think it's just a funny setup that the kitchen you can literally see the kitchen.
SPEAKER_00Well, yeah, and you can see the guy.
SPEAKER_02You watch the guy making your pancakes and your bacon, and you hear them yelling orders at each other.
SPEAKER_00And and he's not wearing anything that covers the hair on his skin, so sometimes you get a little hair in your eggs.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, the I've never had a bad experience at a waffle house. Like, it's been ghetto, don't get me wrong. We've been to some that one in Houston was a little rough. But I've never had like but the food is really good.
SPEAKER_00That dude could cook.
SPEAKER_02Like, I've never had an experience at a waffle house where I was like, this is a bad waffle. Like, it's really good, especially when you go late at night, it's really good.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Because I feel like every time we've gone, it's been past 8 p.m.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah. Well, I yeah, I mean, back in the day they were 24 hours, so we would never go until like 11.
SPEAKER_02There are some that are I think the one next to us is 24 hours. But I need them to put like I need I want them to put a big 24-hour Waffle House in Lubbock, and it would do so good. Because the closest one to us is I think in Abilene, which is like two hours away. Which I'll tell you this, we did talk about driving to Abilene to go to Bucky's and Waffle House and come back with a group of people.
SPEAKER_00Well, here's what we do. Let's find a million dollars and let's go franchise one. Let's go open one up.
SPEAKER_02I wish, dude. Is that really how much it takes to franchise something? A million bucks?
SPEAKER_00Uh depends. Depends what it is. Like, I think Chick-fil-A is like 60 grand. But as a manor, manager, owner of a Chick-fil-A, you have to actually work your locations.
SPEAKER_02Like you're not a Oh, so you would have to we would I don't think we would have to do that for Waffles, so probably not. Just show up every couple months.
SPEAKER_00Nah, I'd show up every couple weeks. If it was local enough. And the reason is because like you want your employees to feel valued, and then maybe you come up with some sort of thing as like, hey, I I'm paying you this, but if we have a badass month, I'm gonna give you a little bonus.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00You gotta figure out a way to because waffle, like you said, that waffle house business be hard sometimes.
SPEAKER_02For sure, yeah.
SPEAKER_00But if you get some really, really good people, what's wrong with like if you're making 60 grand a month giving everybody a couple grand in bonuses every month if they're doing all the filling it up, especially if it's just like a side income, like you're not like it's not your only income, you could definitely do that.
SPEAKER_02I don't know why more businesses don't do that.
SPEAKER_00Don't do what?
SPEAKER_02Like if you work at a restaurant, right, and that restaurant for let's say the month of May brings in double what it normally would. Why don't why don't businesses just give a little something something to the people working there?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02That's not really you know, you don't really see that nowadays.
SPEAKER_00No.
SPEAKER_02I mean, I know I know a lot of it's like franchise and corporate stuff of being like the money goes back to the business, but it's like your business is the people working there. So if they're like as a server, if you're making$213 an hour, right, but you work every day and the business itself is bringing in a lot of money and you're making okay tips, like just give a little bonus out. Do a little something, something.
SPEAKER_00That's what uh uh a uh employee-centered business would do. Not only are they probably rate they've raised the hourly weight to a respectable somewhat level, but then they also give have some sort of like every quarter. Hey, yeah, we made in the quarter, I'm gonna take 10% of the profit and I'm gonna split it between all of y'all. Whatever that is.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, yeah. That would be well and also like minimum wage being$7.25 in Texas is still wild. To me.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. It's like we were$7.25.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's still$7.25. When we were in when we were in Illinois, they told us that, you know, and yes, it's more expensive to live in Illinois. I s I'll say that, but it's like$15 is minimum wage.
SPEAKER_00Well, you know why that is, right?
SPEAKER_02It's more expensive to live. The cost of living is higher.
SPEAKER_00The cost of living is higher because they have higher taxes.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So they're actually only probably getting$8 an hour. But they have to pay gas tax, they have to pay state income tax, they have to pay all of these things before they even get their money. They're probably making the same amount.
SPEAKER_02I know, it's just crazy. Well, yeah, but it's just crazy to me that like where's my calculator? We're gonna do some math.
SPEAKER_00Mathing.
SPEAKER_02We're gonna math it up.
SPEAKER_00Illinois is$15 an hour.
SPEAKER_02Okay, so minimum wage here is$7.25. Let's say you work a minimum wage job.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Okay, no tips, nothing. You work minimum wage.
SPEAKER_00Correct.
SPEAKER_02Times, let's say 40 hours a week. You're making$290 a week.
SPEAKER_00Correct.
SPEAKER_02Okay, let's times that by four. You're making eleven hundred and sixty dollars.
SPEAKER_01Correct.
SPEAKER_02Rent in Austin, Texas, is for a studio one-bedroom apartment is about fifteen hundred dollars.
SPEAKER_00Correct.
SPEAKER_02Even in Lubbock, they're still like in Lubbock when you have student housing, like if you're a student, you get cheaper housing, but if you're not living in student housing, you're still paying a thousand dollars a month for just rent. And that's not utilities, that's not groceries, that's not gas, that's not whatever.
SPEAKER_00And you're doing like the normal one side of the argument for that.
SPEAKER_02Well, I get that, but I mean, I mean, I understand that most jobs I most jobs don't pay minimum wage, and if they do pay minimum wage, there's an aspect of tips.
SPEAKER_00What well, what is the point of a minimum wage job?
SPEAKER_02I don't know. I didn't learn that.
SPEAKER_00Minimum jade minimum wage jobs are started for low uh lower educated high school students, those are the jobs that usually take those because you just need some sort of income to come in, but you're not relying on it to live on. They're like starter jobs. The whole purpose of a starter job is to either you can one stay in the company and grow, become a ship leader, get more money, become an assistant manager, get more money, become a manager, get more money. Or that is assisting you while you're getting education or doing something else, going in totally into the corporate world.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I mean, they're not nobody's supposed to be. I mean, hold on. Yeah, nobody is supposed to be a McDonald's cashier for their whole life. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_02But it happens, like people that stuff like that happens.
SPEAKER_00It does, but most of the time, those people have the opportunity to move up. They're gonna be a shift leader, they may love the cashier and they're gonna work the cashier all the time. I've heard of people working at McDonald's for 20 or 30 years, but by then they're already in an advanced place to where they're making money.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00But not a minimum, no one is gonna work a minimum wage job for 10 years, never getting raises, never getting uh education.
SPEAKER_02Well, no, like no, no, no, definitely not. But I just think that it's crazy that it's believed that as minimum wage, because the idea of minimum wage itself was supposed to be like it's supposed to eat minimum wage is supposed to equal the cost of living in your state.
SPEAKER_00What?
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Like the average, yeah, the average cost of living in your state is supposed to equal minimum wage per month. That's what we learned.
SPEAKER_00Well then they've never in government. The governments have never done that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
unknownEver.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's correct. That's what doesn't make sense to me. Because that's that the reason that minimum wage exists is because of the fact that it's supposed to equal the cost of living, like the basic cost of living in that state. Yeah. Like everything is more expensive in Cali. So the cost, like the minimum wage in Cali is like 18. But again, they also take a bunch of taxes and whatever, but also the cost of living is a lot higher, so they have a higher minimum wage. But the fact that minimum wage hasn't increased in a very long time, and that server minimum wage is still 213 is crazy.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but yeah, you should you're gonna blame bar you should blame bartenders for that. Well, yeah, but like there's some that never trickles down to the servers.
SPEAKER_02Well, there's restaurants that don't have bartenders. Like when I was working at Cracker Barrel, how it worked was you made$213 an hour, and if your tips didn't equal minimum wage of$7.25, you got paid minimum wage hourly if your tips didn't make it. But if your tips went over that, like even by a little bit, you made minimum wage. So you could have walked out a night with let's pull on my calculator again.
SPEAKER_00$50.
SPEAKER_02So let's do seven point. Let's say you work a five hour shift.
SPEAKER_00That's$35.
SPEAKER_02Okay,$36.$36, right? You work a five hour shift, you make$40. You're getting paid$40 plus$213 times five.
SPEAKER_00$40.
SPEAKER_02So you're making$50 total. That means you're making$10 an hour as a server.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that's more than minimum wage.
SPEAKER_02More than minimum wage, but still not still not great.
SPEAKER_00No. And that's I mean, that's like uh that's a person's choice. If you want to work at Cracker Barrel and make$50 a night, go ahead and do that. If you want to upscale your game, memorize wines, blah, blah, blah, go to carve.
SPEAKER_02Well, I'll tell you this. I never do 50. Cracker barrel, I never I never got b there were very few nights where I got below 60 bucks. Mostly every night I walked out between, unless it was a holiday, I walked out between, or I was working a double. Probably$70 to$150 a night in just tips. Okay, so for a full five, six hour shift. But if I was working doubles, then I could probably get two, two.
SPEAKER_00Okay, so was that five days a week, four days a week?
SPEAKER_02Uh I worked probably four days a week, five days a week, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Right. So five days a week, it's three hundred a week. That's twelve hundred a month. Still not. But that's also why those jobs are never, I don't think they were ever intended to be years.
SPEAKER_03Long term.
SPEAKER_00Well, or a single 40-year-old who's gonna pay all of their bills with that job.
SPEAKER_02It could be I know I know a server who does that, but she also works seven days a week, works doubles, works holidays, does all, you know, and she hustles. She's great, she's awesome.
SPEAKER_00She's probably making uh if she's working doubles, she's probably making$150 a day.
SPEAKER_02So she's you can make$150 in a shift. I've made$150 in a shift. You could make you could probably make$250 to$300 in a shift. Uh, if you know, if you work Thanksgiving, yeah, yeah, and a double. Thanksgiving. I worked one shift on Thanksgiving. I worked the evening shift and I made$500 in one shift because it was a holiday.
SPEAKER_00All right, so let's say best case scenario, she works two doubles and three regular shifts a week.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Two doubles, it's two fifty, five hundred, that's nine hundred a week.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Times four, that's thirty six hundred dollars.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Depending on how koshery she is with the the the the tax man, she's not claiming all that cash that she got. She's got to claim the claim the tips on the credit card credit card. But yeah. You're making thirty six hundred dollars. That's not horrible for a month.
SPEAKER_02No, definitely not. Like, if you're if you're somebody who has the ability to work every day and to bust your ass and to be a good server, you can make the money you want to make. Like it's and that's that's at a place like Cracker Bar where most of our clientele is older people or families.
SPEAKER_00And they're not chipping real well either.
SPEAKER_02Well, it depends. We have some we have regulars who come in and tip really well. We have some old we have a there's a regular at the one that I used to work at who would come in every week on the dot, order the same stuff and complain about the same stuff every week.
SPEAKER_00Right. But she's good tippers no matter what.
SPEAKER_02Her her mother, so it was like an adult and then the grandma or whatever, her mom would still tip whatever that server was very, very generously. We had a guy come in every week and he would come in a little bit later. If you were his server, he gave you 30 bucks. No matter what, and he was by himself, so he gave you 30 and he gave you 10 for every female working on the front of house floor.
SPEAKER_00So to give out, yeah, to give out.
SPEAKER_02So if there were two hosts and two female servers left, all of he gave you 40 bucks and tins and you gave them out. I mean And everybody knew him, so everybody wanted to. It was like Tuesday nights or something, so everybody was like, Oh, I'll stay late on Tuesday night hoping he would come in.
SPEAKER_00Well, and he may have been a server himself, and that's why it's just ingrained to him of be like, man, this this this stuff is hard.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00If you if you could be a manager at a restaurant, would it be the type of food they serve or the environment of the place?
SPEAKER_02Environment. 100% environment. Yeah, the environment matters over anything else. Like if you if you're in a bad working environment or like if you're in a corporate situation where the work environment is bad, like there you don't want to stay. Like at Cracker Bar at the Cracker Barrel I was at, every single one of my managers except for one since I left has walked out or quit on the spot. Even RGM.
SPEAKER_00Well, I think okay, I think I meant more of like the the ambiance of the place, not necessarily the inner inner place. Would you want a fun Razoos kind of joint where it's a little more relaxed, laid back, or would you prefer like a uh because each one has its own issues? Would you want a uh a steakhouse like Carve where it's kind of fancy and these people are spending money money, but it's the same thing, like when they get pissy, they're like a whole nother level of because they're expecting a certain level of service. If you had to pick between one of those two, which do you think you would rather uh manage? Because the upside is you're gonna make tons more money at carve, but it's also gonna be more snooty.
SPEAKER_02For me, it'd probably end up being a place like Rezu's or you know, Chili's well, not chilies, no, no, I would want it to be somewhere like okay. Like I consider BJ's to not be at the level of carve because it's like more fun and like the ambiance of it, in my opinion, is more fun than it is fancy. So I would I would run a place like BJ's or um uh like even a Dave and Busters, like running the food side of Dave and Busters, like I would totally do that because that sounds like that sounds more fun than it would be than dealing with snooty rich people. That's true day in and day out. Because we dealt with people like that at Cracker Barrel, and it was they're not all that way. I'm just saying it was the worst, it was bad. But also if you're if you're managing, you're not you're if you're managing it, you're not focused on the tips. Now, if I was gonna serve, I would pick a place like carve. Yes, you may have some bad apples, but you're gonna be tipped better.
SPEAKER_00But you're gonna make more money as a manager in a place that's making more money because at CARV, you can't get out with more than 110 a person.
SPEAKER_02Probably. Roughly, but but the good thing about places like Dave and Busters is there's a level of you're coming and you're staying for a while. So that's gonna add on, you know, drinks and food and game cards and you know, whatever it is.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_02To me, that ends up kind of eviling leveling it out from a manager point of perspective versus like a server perspective.
SPEAKER_00Gotcha. So but honestly.
SPEAKER_02I don't think I would ever manage a restaurant.
SPEAKER_00No, I don't want to.
SPEAKER_02But if it came down to it, I mean probably a more relaxed because I also think that the servers are a little bit nicer when you work at somewhere that's a little bit more relaxed.
SPEAKER_00Maybe. Or they jack around too much.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. But I mean, you're gonna have people who jack around no matter what.
SPEAKER_00I well, maybe, but I think if you're like a like a Memphis shop house that's known for its$110 tomahawk steaks, and you got a bunch of older servers who have been serving for years and years and years, I think your job as the manager would be way easier because they already know how to take care of their clients, which are the people at the table. You're not gonna have like some high school douche named Max who's gonna roll up and be like putting putting straws in the ice machine.
SPEAKER_02There's a level of yes and no. I mean, I I worked at Salt Lake, which is a well-known place. People go there for the barbecue from all over the world um and all over the country. But we still had servers who jacked around. And like, yes, it's not as fancy as like carve or something like that, but it's still somewhere that's well known. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um, and we still have a lot of high school kids and college.
SPEAKER_02Well, you well, you can't serve until you're 18 there. So none of the servers were high school kids unless they were like 18 seniors. But even as a senior, it's a little bit better than like a Crackerborough when we have 16-year-olds serving as sophomores in high school. Um it just honestly, it depends on the in my opinion, it depends on the work environment, like the actual interpersonal work environment.
SPEAKER_00That's true. Um I had a lot of fun at Domino's Pizza. Uh and I worked there starting when I was like 15. But um that environment was awesome because we had a whole your whole slew selection of personalities. And I'll take this moment to uh for a PA PSA um to my friends in South Houston who may have gotten their pizza delivered and it was wrong. Um about 70% of those were wrong on purpose because me and Jared were in charge of putting the pizzas together, and we may have just wanted to see what it looked like to put sausage underneath the pepperonis, even though you didn't order it, and then um we may have made some other people mad because they're not allowed to have certain things on their pizza, and we accidentally put one or two of those in there.
SPEAKER_02Um gave somebody like a major allergic reaction or something.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I didn't even think about that. As somebody who has a daughter with a pretty bad allergic reaction to certain things, I had zero thing, I had zero thinking about that at the moment.
SPEAKER_02I think it was more of like like you had pineapple in a pizza and I ate that, bro. I'd have to stick myself with an epi pin.
SPEAKER_00We uh I don't know, do we we didn't have pineapple? This was you know, I'm old when pizzas first came out.
SPEAKER_02Right in the stone age.
SPEAKER_00We did put jalapenos under pepperonis a lot, just one or two. It was like roulette, it was like yeah, and if uh if a three-year-old got it, you win. You you get the spicy pepperoni. That's so funny. Oh yeah. But I was really good at that. Um, and I never got a bonus. Or so if you could if okay, so let's just say you could run a fast food joint. You could own a fast food joint. What fast food joint would you own?
SPEAKER_02Wobble else.
SPEAKER_00That doesn't count. It's pretty easy.
SPEAKER_02What does it qualify as? Like, it's not a sit-down restaurant. Yes, it's not fast food.
SPEAKER_00It's a sit-down breakfast environment.
SPEAKER_02Okay. Um, I don't know. It kind of depends on where I am. Like, if I'm in a college town, the best things that do and like the things that do best in a college town are places that stay open late. So it's like your it's like your water burger. Well, there's some companies that like will not allow you to stay open 24 hours. But like if it's a 24-hour water burger, well, bitch, I ain't gotta work at it. I just gotta run it. And if I'm gonna get it, if I'm in a college town, well, if I'm in a college town, if I'm open 24 hours, I'm getting people coming in at 3 a.m. drunk from the house.
SPEAKER_00No, but you're also having to pay for people.
SPEAKER_02You're paying college kids mostly, or you're paying the people who live.
SPEAKER_00Are you paying a minimum wage?
SPEAKER_02Oh, yes, I am. No, I'm not paying minimum wage. But um, yes, you are.
SPEAKER_00You're the big liar on that.
SPEAKER_02No, I wouldn't.
SPEAKER_00I'm paying you eight dollars an hour.
SPEAKER_0275 cents above minimum wage.
SPEAKER_00Okay, so I actually don't know. What would it be? Water bar, taco bell, uh uh what's that chicken joint you like? Cane.
SPEAKER_02Does drive-through coffee count?
SPEAKER_00Well, that would be another category. That's a different category. Because you would own a uh seven brews.
SPEAKER_02No, I would own a mojo's. I would own a mojo, and I would put it in Lubbock. So it's a coffee place that I've only ever found one in Kingsland, but it is the best that I've been to. It's the best coffee I've been to, the best energy, and it's natural energy.
SPEAKER_00Well, if you guys would ever invite me to Kingsland for your little gift together, then we're going on the ninth.
SPEAKER_02We're going on we're going on May 9th.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_02You can come with us on May 9th. We're going for Pop. It's Popo's birthday.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_02So we're we're going on the ninth.
SPEAKER_00And then I could have a mojo's. And yeah, we could go to Mojo. Could uh yell at Katie for everybody in the mama.
SPEAKER_02Everybody in the mama will be at will be in Kingsland. So you can see everybody.
SPEAKER_00Another service announcement. Another service announcement. Katie let me join one of her teams.
SPEAKER_02Yay!
SPEAKER_00Yes, and we got first place.
SPEAKER_03Good job. Good job.
SPEAKER_00So I guess it's once every seven months she's gonna allow me on a team. Shout out to Katie and and and I guess Katie and Mamma. Mammaw. Mamma? Ma? Yeah. Mammaw. Mamma. You have two mamma?
SPEAKER_02Katie, mammal, and popple.
SPEAKER_00Popel. Okay. Well, I guess Mamma was playing.
SPEAKER_02Um Mamma on Monopoly is Lee.
SPEAKER_00Yes, that is her. And she has a picture of her mom.
SPEAKER_02Yes. I believe it's her mom.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_02It's not her. I believe it's her mom.
SPEAKER_00Okay, don't quote me on that. So you do coffee. I would do Mojas for Coffee.
SPEAKER_02But I would and I would put it somewhere that it doesn't exist. So like here and love it, because it's it's really, really good.
SPEAKER_00I would own. I've been thinking about this a lot. I miss my favorite place in the world, which I had when I was a kid, was an AW root beer.
unknownOh my god.
SPEAKER_00And they don't have a root. I love AW.
SPEAKER_02No, they're in a lot of airports though.
SPEAKER_00I would get a root beer float. I would get a chili dog. And then they had those spirally fries, but they were normal. They weren't like Arby's. What's that red season? Yeah, that red seasoned stuff. They were just regular old crinkle or curly fries.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god.
SPEAKER_02Last time I saw an AW was in an airport.
SPEAKER_00And then um I don't know if I could own a seven brews. I like the seven brews coffee. I just feel bad about kids drinking all these energy drinks. It's basically like battery acid for their insides, and they're ruining the stomach lining, and that's why everybody has gut problems. Do I want to contribute to that? Or do I want to do that?
SPEAKER_02You definitely want to contribute. You definitely want to make some money. I do, if you're if you're offering multiple things and they choose to get that, then that's on them.
SPEAKER_00But why not just not choose energy drinks? They're bad, seriously bad.
SPEAKER_02Well, they they have healthy energy drinks, like they have natural energy drink. They have natural energy that you can put in the drink. No, they have like natural energy that you can put in these drinks and it makes it a lot better.
SPEAKER_00I'm gonna go look at this up.
SPEAKER_02Like the coffee shop that Katie works at uses natural energy.
SPEAKER_00What's natural energy?
SPEAKER_02What I don't bro, I don't look into it.
SPEAKER_00Like electricity, like they shock the drinks before you eat them. Drink them. Katie works in a coffee shop. She worked at Mojo's?
SPEAKER_02No, she works at the red herring. Oh, sorry, Katie. I'm just outing you right now. She works at a coffee shop in Kingsland.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_02Shit. Wait. Oh. Wait, there's an A and W in Where?
SPEAKER_00Kingsland?
SPEAKER_02No, in Lubbock.
SPEAKER_00Shut up.
SPEAKER_02Wait, no, it says A and W and then it says long-drawn silvers.
SPEAKER_00It's it's a dual. It's a double. It's like our KFC here. Oh my gosh, bro. I know where I'm going on the whatever date that is. The fourth. We can do May the Fourth be with you. And a chili dog. I mean, maybe they have the same stuff. I can't remember. I haven't been there in so long. Do they even have chili dogs anymore? A and W restaurant. Food menu. Let's take a look. They got burgers. Ooh, there it is. Chili Dog with cheese.
SPEAKER_02I feel like you're just hungry right now.
SPEAKER_00I'm drinking my protein soda. I'm feeling good. But they make like fresh root beer there.
SPEAKER_02Okay, there's one in Austin. There's an AW in Austin.
SPEAKER_00Where?
SPEAKER_02I'll talk about it.
SPEAKER_00There's going to say Marcus, or there used to be, but I think it's a really ghetto. Um they also have a root beer cream freeze.
SPEAKER_02That sounds good.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's like a root beer float slushy.
SPEAKER_02Okay, no, I'm hungry. I gotta go eat after this.
SPEAKER_00Um and then they have Sundays, but I don't have a lot of fun.
SPEAKER_02I have a meeting.
SPEAKER_00I have a meeting.
SPEAKER_02I have so much stuff I have to do today. I have a meeting, and then I have class, and then I have another meeting.
SPEAKER_00Why are you meeting? What's what are you doing for meetings? Why?
SPEAKER_02Well, I have a Spanish meeting tonight.
SPEAKER_00Is it all in Spanish?
SPEAKER_02It is all in Spanish. It's with a different guy than I'm used to.
unknownOh.
SPEAKER_02I normally meet with this girl, but she was out of meetings. Um what? Well, like her, she didn't have time any more time slots open.
SPEAKER_00Oh.
SPEAKER_02You just don't have like a regular No, you have to like book it weekly.
SPEAKER_00Oh.
SPEAKER_02Um, and it's a makeup session because I missed one while we were flying to Illinois. So I gotta make it and then I have a meeting with another thing, a meeting for Spanish, but this one's with my Spanish honors person for my Spanish honors class about my assignment, which I need to go finish after this because I'm not done yet.
SPEAKER_00Your assignment. And are you um when do you get to go to Costa Rica for your study abroad?
SPEAKER_02Um, I don't think I'm gonna do study abroad.
SPEAKER_00Wow, all right. Um seems lame.
SPEAKER_02I'm not here long enough. Maybe I'll do it in my grad school.
SPEAKER_00Anyway, you won't have time in grad school, but it's fine.
SPEAKER_02Then I'll just travel for funsies.
SPEAKER_00Funsies!
SPEAKER_02Funsies! All right, okay, let's get out of here. You get us out of here and throw us out.
SPEAKER_00Okay, thank you. Whatever the word is. Thank you for listening to the dad.
SPEAKER_02Thank you for listening to the dad. You should never say that podcast. We'll see you guys next week.
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SPEAKER_00I made a Facebook.
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SPEAKER_00I don't even know because I don't even follow us, I don't even think.
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SPEAKER_00Your favorite AW menu item. Actually, just send us your favorite fast food restaurant and what you order.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, send us your favorite fast food restaurant.
SPEAKER_00And we may try it live on the yeah, we might do a mukbang. A what? Do you know what that is?
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