Watchtower After Dark with Smurf Girl & Mitch
A no-holds-barred discussion of life, love, & politics while moving on from the Jehovah's Witness cult.
Watchtower After Dark with Smurf Girl & Mitch
Ep. 06 (audio only): WATCHTOWER AFTER DARK - DATING AS A JEHOVAH'S WITNESS - ROSE BUNDY
Welcome to episode of Watchtower After Dark with Rose Bundy & Mitch.
On today's episode Rose dives deep into Jehovah's Witnesses and dating, and getting married at an early age. It's a perfect formula for grooming. Welcome to the dark side!
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SPEAKER_01:It's me, XJW Smurf Girl, Rose Bundy. This is Watched Her After Dark. Hey, Mitch, how's it going?
SPEAKER_00:What's
SPEAKER_01:up?
SPEAKER_00:It's good. How are you?
SPEAKER_01:Good. It's good to see you.
SPEAKER_00:Good to see you, too.
SPEAKER_01:Good. So anyway, let's get down to business. I got my little book. I've got my little journal book. And I want to talk about dating in the of his witnesses and out, but also underage marriages. I was a part of being in underage marriage, because it all goes hand in hand, you know what I mean? Of what dating is like in the witnesses, and getting into those underage marriages, of how that works. Because those underage marriages is how they get rid of those abuse victims. It goes from abuse, abuse, abuse and then the moment they turn 16 or whatever the legal age is to get them signed away or the sooner the better is what the organization will do and I'm the perfect example of that. Wow. So did you notice that? You're newly out so you, you know... saw that more recently than i have
SPEAKER_00:uh i mean i've known some that got married at like 18 or 19 years old yeah but no i haven't seen that that much myself okay What? It was alarming when you told me.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, because I could be signed away at 16 because, you know, I mean... I would think that if I told people, as demonized Smurf girl, the Jehovah's Witnesses, that, oh no, everything was fine, and I got married at a normal age, like everybody else, like a normal human being, people would be shocked. Like, there's a reason my story is so shocking, is because all of it makes complete and utter sense. You know, that, of course, you know, abuse, abuse, abuse, rumors, rumors, rumors, getting married off at 16, the moment I was leaked, ago, my mom. When we went to get the marriage license, we were at the assembly at the Tucson Convention Center. And it was like Friday where the courthouse was open. And so we went to the courthouse and mom went with and she signed me away because her getting rid of me was more important than exposing something where her husband my stepfather could get arrested yeah You know, it's like, oh, no, I got to get rid of Rose Bundy. She's a big, giant problem. And it was right after my dad had gotten the electric chair. He got the electric chair when I was 15. And so within like a year, they were like, because I was like, I mean, I lost it. I lost it. I wasn't allowed to have a relationship with them like what I wanted. And I didn't realize Like, I just, you know, it's like they sat me down and told me, and I was like, you, you know, you didn't let me have a relationship with him. I didn't know they were going to kill him that fast. You know what I mean? From him getting arrested, like, they killed him within, like, 11 years. Like, it did, you know. Let's see if my math is right. About 11. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Like officially dated, my first wife, I was 22. This was crazy. I was 22. Okay. 22. Imagine being, you know, you raised in that religion.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. No, I don't have to imagine it. I was raised in the religion. Let me imagine it,
SPEAKER_00:Mitch. You're this kid full of testosterone. Yeah. And you don't date until you're 22. So we met, started dating, and like four months later, we were married.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. If you're engaged longer than four months, or if you're not married, if you start dating and then if you're not married within four months they assume you fornicated and after four months they make you break up or get married one of the two like you're not allowed also remember how you'd have to date you couldn't date unless you what's the term for it that you had gears towards marriage you were geared towards marriage and that's the only reason why you'd be allowed to date
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So, I mean, oh, just let me tell you about the socially awkwardness of a Jehovah's Witness man. Boy. I don't know. Male. You're not even a male. What do I even call you? You know, a non-woman. Like, you know, barely non-woman. The female awkward that is the Jehovah's Witness boy is so over the top, it's really not even funny. They do not know how to handle themselves around a woman. They do not know how to treat a woman like a woman. They do not know how to romance a woman. They don't know how to act around them, talk around them, nothing, like zero. But anyway, so... But what happens is, um there are so many brothers like you that don't date until they're you know 22 or something but how many sisters did you keep your eye on for when you did start to date all of them i know you all of them yeah he's saying you know meat market keeping your eye oh yeah and how many now be honest because you know it's all of them
SPEAKER_00:okay
SPEAKER_01:how many did you keep an eye on that the reason why you kept an eye on them is because they were too young to date
SPEAKER_00:Oh, that wasn't my issue.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:I like older women.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, you married an older woman? That's weird. No, that, oh. That happens. Because the sisters... She, okay, she was keeping an eye on you. It was the other way around. Where it'd be like, oh no, I got my eye on this brother. As soon as he's old enough, I'm gonna get my hooks in him one way or another. You know what I mean? And an older sister, I date younger men, so I understand. It's like, oh no, I'm gonna keep, yeah. But... like starting i mean starting young it's like oh no you know she's spoken for like how many times have you heard that you know she's spoken for because brother so-and-so has had his eye on her for a while and she's almost old enough to date And so she's kind of promised to him, we're going to see how it goes. And that's because he started gawking at her at 12, the back of the songbook gawking. You know, the back of the songbook gawking. Because that's what he's doing. He's keeping an eye of, oh, there's a 10-year-old. I bet, you know, if I wait around a little bit, you know, when she's, you know, 12, 13, 14, 15, we'll get her at a party. And one way or another, trick her Wow. Who's ever not been tricked into getting married as a witness? You know what I mean? Tricked. It's like, I got tricked into getting married. Because there's a judicial. There's a this and a that. You get tricked. You get guilted. You get accused. Like, people accuse you. Oh, I bet you they fornicated. I bet you they fornicated. And then you get accused. And then it's like, to prove a point, you marry that person. I know that that was the fact with me. Yeah. God, I'm so mad. I married people I never would have married. Three times, at least. There's some I won't admit.
SPEAKER_00:What? They were trying to say that happened to me, like trying to figure out if we fornicated. We got married after four months, and then we were married two months, and she got pregnant. Oh. So people started trying to do the math, trying to make it like we did it.
SPEAKER_01:Doing the math.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Did you fornicate before you got married?
SPEAKER_00:Huh?
SPEAKER_01:Did you fornicate before you got married?
SPEAKER_00:Not officially.
SPEAKER_01:so you goofed around she's not officially you mean you didn't get caught no no no let me look you deep in the eye because you didn't get
SPEAKER_00:caught everything but
SPEAKER_01:And that's why it didn't work out,
SPEAKER_00:huh? But I didn't, like, we didn't do it before marriage, but
SPEAKER_01:yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Like, you know, we did stuff.
SPEAKER_01:God, it's so embarrassing. This is so embarrassing.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, I
SPEAKER_01:know that she's gonna just myrtle eyes, you know myrtle lies Don't blame me woman. Don't witness is your first wife. Oh, she is Keep you you you were word, you know gawking that young Mitch, you know tricking him into getting married wake the fuck up Mitch's first wife wake the fuck up
SPEAKER_00:also young and innocent
SPEAKER_01:yeah and then some older woman who i obviously is she how much older uh
SPEAKER_00:five years
SPEAKER_01:So she was, what, 27? You were 22? She was an old maid, man. That's an old... I'm sorry. I was 16 when I got married. That's an old maid. She's 11 years older than me when I got married. That's an old maid. So she was dead. She tricked you. Tricked you into heavy petting. You know, tricked you know fondulation you know you know what i mean god whatever Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:It was bad. Hey,
SPEAKER_01:can you turn up your mic a little bit?
SPEAKER_00:It was finally to the point where, yeah, we were like, we better get married.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Oh, yeah, because you were going to mess up. Oh, you're going to mess up. Heaven forbid you like each other and find out if you're compatible. I want to know the divorce rate of Jehovah's Witnesses. It's huge. Huge. Especially of our generation. Maybe not our parents, but us. It's what our parents did to us.
SPEAKER_00:Swear to
SPEAKER_01:God.
SPEAKER_00:I divorced 12 and a half years after our marriage. That first marriage.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, you stayed married 12 and a half years? I
SPEAKER_00:was trying to do it.
SPEAKER_01:And then your second marriage was not a witness?
SPEAKER_00:I met her while I was disfellowshipping my second time. she became she became
SPEAKER_01:oh crap you converted a worldly that's what it's called converted a worldly i tried to convert a couple of worldlies i i tried to convert several worldlies never to the point of baptism thank god but it didn't matter didn't matter so I mean, just the stupid behavior of, okay, you can't even sit next to somebody without them thinking you're engaged. You know what I mean? I'm going to mess with my thing. You can't even... Oh, did I mess up with my camera? No, it's good. Is it good? Okay. You can't even couple skate with somebody without them thinking you're engaged. You can't sit next to each other. You can't go, oh, being in the same car group.
UNKNOWN:No.
SPEAKER_01:Working with each other out in field service. Like, you have to be engaged to work with each other out in field service. Without people thinking you're fornicating at the door. Like, you know. You know it. You know it. Fornicating at the door.
SPEAKER_00:Well, we used to... we used to leave the kingdom hall it would be a group of my friends and then we would meet the car group of girls and we would all pair up
SPEAKER_01:oh oh oh yeah the pairing up where you just paired up and then look the other way while the other ones are paired up too at parties as soon as the parents left the room everybody takes a corner
SPEAKER_00:there's a lot
SPEAKER_01:of like there'd be one right there fornicating there'd be one right there, fornicate. One right over there. You know, all over the place. Just fornicating all over. You know, behind the sofa. This is a couple and a... God. Sneaking around. Just sneaking around. It's ridiculous. Well, you know what's funny? Is I actually miss that. I miss it. There's something about where you've got to... You have You have to fight to be together. You have to, you know, everyone in the congregation hates it that we're together and we have to fight to be together. And, you know, it's like a fight.
SPEAKER_00:It was a fight. Yep. So 16, I can't believe it.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, I know. I know. Well, I was extremely mature. I was more mature than everybody else in the situation. And I was just wanting out of the house. I was just wanting, um, I needed out. I needed out of the house. I needed to be away, you know, from my stepdad and my mom because they were, you know, well, I was being trafficked. I was just being trafficked all over the place. And I was, you know, and, and what was funny is that they could It's like, man, you're sure trafficked a lot. People would say that about me. You're trafficked. I can see, you know, it's like you're being trafficked all over. And I'm like, yeah, you know, it's a way to get away from my parents. And I was willing to be trafficked to get away from the abuse. Like that's what traffickers will do too, by the way, is they will find a kid that's being abused at home. And they'll say, you know, I can offer you a job, you know. Do you know how to do massage? You know, like, that's how it starts. Do you know how to do massage? You know, do you mind massaging wealthy guys? Oh, that'd be no problem. Sure. It's a whole lot better than getting beat with a wooden spoon, right? It's a whole lot better. Like, if I had to choose going to the K or massage in some rich guys even for free with for room and board what choice would I choose you know it's like it was way better than being abused in the Jehovah's Witnesses but it was still horrible it was still horrible but it was better than getting beat by my mother to sit still at the meeting with a wooden spoon like you know and You know, unfortunately, all the trafficking money that I made went to Watchtower. You know, that my parents then took the money I made and donated it to Watchtower. So know that, like, all of my, like, prostitution funds, like, that's what I call, just know that your prostitution trafficking funds have been donated Wow. How long did that go on? um it was it went on until i got married at 16 and then it morphs it morphs like it's depending on your age it changes like it's still going on it's still going on it's hard for me to get once it starts it never stops Like, I could show you things, you know, like you had started with, like with the demonized Smurf. That's part of my trafficking. I was trafficked as demonized Smurf girl. That was being trafficked. You know, creating chaos and, oh, I'm this demonized little girl and blah. That's part of where my trafficking will never, ever not be talked about for the rest of eternity. You know what I mean? Like, I don't want to think about that, but I'm glad that people still remember my trafficking was so severe that it terrified people. You know, it was terrifying. Like if people, people were, you were terrified just hearing about my trafficking abuse. Where it's like, no, she was so demonized. She makes work right down the cable. No, that was just me like flipping out. You know, I can be a very scary individual. You know what I mean? I can be a very scary person. So anyway, I could go on and on about the weirdness of dating as a witness. Like all the terms for it. All the... The rules, rules, rules of... I don't know how to describe it. There's all these rules. There's more rules to dating as a witness than anything else. Nothing else has... In the whole religion, you could add up all the other rules to stuff, and the dating rules would weigh out... weigh any other list of rules there there should be like the elder handbook there should be a dating handbook right oh i gotta flash my ring flash your ring you got your right hand ring on would you lose it no
SPEAKER_00:never you never lose the ring i
SPEAKER_01:know You see mine? It's a three-strand cord ring. See how it's got three bands?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Nice. Cha-ching. No,
SPEAKER_00:I feel like Sam.
SPEAKER_01:You look like Sam.
SPEAKER_00:Wow.
SPEAKER_01:So you say you feel like Sam, so do you feel like a dick? No, you feel like a big giant jackass, right?
SPEAKER_00:You feel like a
SPEAKER_01:jackass. Jackass. Sorry. We're never going to get monetized if my mouth doesn't stay up. Never. We can say
SPEAKER_00:what we want. Okay.
SPEAKER_01:Okay. So anyway, okay. Oh, how, oh, with dating? in the witnesses, it affects me now dating now because I don't know how and I get super triggered and I get super upset. I get super sensitive. I blow up. I went back and I looked at old text messages from when I first started dating for the first time as an apostate i i've never dated being awake you know what i mean dating and being awake is a completely um different thing like it's so different i dated as being asleep of trying to pacify my parents and dating worldly but then you know getting caught dating worldly and having to even marry that worldly guy So I've never dated as an awake person where I can date who I want. Like, I can date anybody I want. Did you know that, Mitch? I, demonized smurf girl, can date anyone I want on the face of the planet. Anyone. It don't matter. Anyone. and knowing that is so powerful god that's powerful it's powerful where before Okay, remember, okay, you see, you're a guy. A sister, there's less guys than girls in The Witnesses. And so if a guy pays attention to you, there aren't that many guys to go around. And so you feel super flattered and you don't have the liberty to be that picky, like, you know, and then being picky, like, oh my God, being, you know, all of a sudden, All Jehovah's Witness guys are alike. They're all the same. And so there's not much variety anyway. And so being picky doesn't even, you know what I
SPEAKER_00:mean?
SPEAKER_01:And if a guy shows interest, it's like you don't even have a choice to say no, thank you. in the witnesses? Like, you know, I've dated guys where it's like, I can't believe it. Like, you know, it's like, but I like you. What do you mean? You can't just turn me down. What do you mean? It's like, no, thank you. No, thank you. You repulsed me. Like, there were some brothers where they were actually shocked that I'm like, get away from me. You're a weirdo. You know? But the brothers think you and I would be a good match. It's like, I don't know. But... the other night uh what night would it have been it was this weekend so it was like saturday sometimes when i'm in a dating like in a situation where a guy is hitting on me i'll just accept it like there's something weird about me where i just shut down and i will accept it and deal with it, but for whatever reason, something came over me on Saturday night where the witness girl in me completely went away. And he kept wanting to touch on my arms, touching my arms, wanting to, like, asking me if he wanted, like, you know, wanting to rub my shoulders. And I was just sitting next to him. And normally, as a witness girl, I would just, oh, you want to rub my shoulders? Okay, here you go. You know, or, oh, thank you. Oh, okay. Oh, you bought me a drink. So that means I, you know, if you lean in to kiss me You're allowed to kiss me because you bought me a drink. That's the Jehovah's Witness girl in me. That if a guy buys you a drink, he's allowed to do whatever he wants. To grope on you, whatever. Anything. And I'm like, no thank you. And I didn't even want him to buy me a drink. He's like, no thanks, I'm good. And he was rubbing on my arm. And I'm like, you know what? I'm like, I don't like being touched by you. Don't like, I just don't want to be touched right now. I was watching the game. I was watching the Cardinals. I think it was the Cardinals. I kind of blacked out for a minute. You know, like I was like, what, what are we, I was watching the game and I was drinking, you know, having a drink, watching the game on TV with everybody else, listening to music and um I'm kind of having PTSD and he kept doing it and I stood up for myself and I stood up out of my chair and I'm like and I kept saying stop stop stop because he was wanting to well you know I can't even describe it and I was like I almost punched him in the face and I was just like I don't want you to touch me not on the arm not on the anything i'm sitting here watching the game that is it i'm drinking my drink you shut up you sit down or i am gonna punch you in the face and he almost got physical with me Like it almost got into a fist fight because I didn't want him to reach over and keep rubbing me on the arm all the time and wanting to grab on my arm. He wanted so badly to do it that we almost got to fisticuffs. And that's how hard it is of when I have to tell a guy no, of how insane. Thankfully, I was taller than he was. I had my boots on, so I was like maybe 5'7", because normally I'm 5'3 and 3 quarters. I was taller than him, and I'm like, I got bigger guns than you, man. And he goes, no, you don't. And I'm like, yes, I do. I'm taller than you. And then at some point, he was going to fist fight me. And then I think he realized I was a woman. Like that I'm a woman and then he should, he was so bound and determined. He just wanted to, I don't even know what that was.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. I remember you told me I was, I was not too happy. He was like some guy hitting on me. Yeah.
UNKNOWN:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I forget what you said. I was too black, just blackout mad.
SPEAKER_00:You said some guy was hitting on me and I was like, what the fuck? And you like, you sent back LOL.
SPEAKER_01:I said, why say it again?
SPEAKER_00:You just sent back LOL when I said, what the fuck? You sent LOL. I'm like, this is no LOL.
SPEAKER_01:No, it's, you know, and And I told this guy that I was going to tell this story on the show today. He knows I'm going to tell this story. I let him know. So I met this guy. This is another situation. I met this guy and I got his phone number. He gave me his phone number. Now, I'm not claiming to be some type of big time celebrity or anything but I am very widely known throughout our community of ex Jehovah's Witnesses there is not you know and even Jehovah's Witnesses they know who I am you know I'm like I'm well known in the Jehovah's Witness community past and current and former and I got treated like... He treated me like a Jehovah's Witness boy. And it was upsetting. This is bizarre. I don't know if I should tell this. You know how Jehovah's Witness boys will treat you? Like... Worthless. You know what I mean? Like they, they think that a date as a witness girl, the most date I ever went on was like getting paid to get into skate country. You know what I mean? Or getting my skates paid for, but, but Jehovah's witness boys do not spend money on dates. Like, did you spend money on dates when you were dating? There's no date really, but...
SPEAKER_00:I did.
SPEAKER_01:You did? I didn't.
SPEAKER_00:I was taught by... I was taught by guys who taught me how to treat women. Okay. Well, you're rare. In fact, that's what the girls would say around the circuit. He takes good care of you when he takes you out.
SPEAKER_01:I was not. At all. At all. I always paid for my because I had more money than the guys that I dated. So like... I would buy gifts for the guys. Like I bought a stereo for one guy and like bottles of cologne. But did I have any bought for me? One time, like the nicest gift I ever got was a half a dozen roses. And I had bought him a stereo and like some cologne and stuff. I had like, you know, but he was working at Burger King. He knows who he is. And so I post to this picture on the internet already and so anyway to thank me for the gifts that I bought him for his graduation and stuff he bought me a half a dozen roses and I was like oh that's so nice where's the other half a dozen and I just it was the first time I stood up for myself and I closed the door in his face and well I took the flowers and closed the door in his face and I cut the flowers up like Saturday night was like the night that i cut those flowers off at like and i was only 14 or 15 years old when i did that
SPEAKER_00:wow
SPEAKER_01:because i was dating very much underage um but i was always the one that had more money than the boys that i would date and so i never got anything. So anyway, I got what I thought was asked out on a date by a really attractive guy the other day. and i was so excited because as an ex jehovah's witness i was like oh my god oh my god oh my god this guy gave me a phone number i was really attracted to him really good looking i was super excited i'm like i can't believe it i'm gonna go on my first like real worldly date And so we start talking, you know, I'm texting him and he's like, so you, you know, are you busy tonight? And I'm like, nope, I'm not, nope. You know, I was excited to go on a date. And he asked me over to watch a movie and over to his house. And I was like, no, I wasn't comfortable with that. You know what I mean? Going over to a guy, I didn't know who it was, over to his house. So I'm like, well, maybe could we meet somewhere else? You know, neutral. Maybe we could we go somewhere and just have a drink somewhere. You know, that would be nice. And, you know, just have a drink. One drink. You know, what's one drink? Right. Five bucks. Right. He goes. Oh, I can't. I'm short on my rent and so I need to save my money. I've never been so offended in my entire life that he could not afford a$5 Roman Coke. after he just gave me his phone number and wanted to see me. And he goes, why can't you just come over to my house? He goes, don't you want to do me? Yeah, and I'm like, I'm demonized Smurf girl of the Jehovah's Witnesses. You know, if you can't afford a$5 Roman Coke so that I feel comfortable around you, you know, there are a bunch of other guys. that will. And then I said to him, I have a show called Watchtower After Dark. I just told him this afternoon. I said, you know, I have a show on iHeartRadio and YouTube and stuff called Watchtower After Dark. I hope you don't mind if I share this story of... And he goes, what's the name of it? We're Can I see it? And it's like, okay, here you go, buddy. Here's the show. So he'll probably see it because you know how he's going to see it. I'm going to send
SPEAKER_00:it
SPEAKER_01:to him. What? I'm going to text him a link to the show that like, you know, seriously, guys need to have some game. You know what
SPEAKER_00:I mean? Some
SPEAKER_01:game. You
SPEAKER_00:don't think it's going to You don't think that's gonna upset him when he hear what you say?
SPEAKER_01:Why do I care?
SPEAKER_00:Because you might have to see him again. What? You might have to see him again.
SPEAKER_01:No. Even if I do, it'll be hysterical.
UNKNOWN:Wow.
SPEAKER_01:he was just a you know he was a he was a blue-eyed mexican guy at the grocery store you know No, it's like hurtful because it's like, okay, normally that wouldn't be a big issue, but it was that I was extremely sensitive, you know, like standing up for myself that, hey, if I don't want a guy wanting to rub up on my arm all the time and like rubbing my neck, you know, some guy that I don't know and having to stand up for myself like, hey, don't touch me, you know, like being touched, I don't want to touched you know I don't want you to rub my neck you know like leave don't touch me don't this don't that you know um there's something something something's broke I think I don't know I'm gonna have to continue continue to date a little bit and get back to you on on you know and what it's like to date as an ex Jehovah's Witness, but it's not easy. And it's not easy to date as an abuse victim either. Because it's like when you get treated, like, you know, like I was saying, there's certain triggers where it's like there's just a certain trigger that I can't even explain it. It's a certain trigger or just a certain something, something. And, you know, of the number that the Jehovah's Witnesses did to us where it was like instantly I thought, is this a Jehovah's Witness boy? You know, like, what do you know? You want my mom to pay for us to go couple skate at skate clubs? You know, I don't have any money. You know, you got to pay to get in and you got to buy skates. And then you're going to want some, you know, something to drink and eat too. And it's, I mean, I remember when this boy is like in the eighties where I'd be like, it's okay. I got my own money. I do modeling. I mean, I probably make more than your parents. I would say that to them. I probably make more than your parents do. Don't worry. I'll pay for us to go skating. And then they get all emasculated. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Thank you.
SPEAKER_01:Or then there was sometimes I'd be rule of why I was so demonized. I would say, yeah, you know, your son can't afford to take me on a proper date, you know. So I paid for everything, brother so-and-so. Hey, I was just wondering, do you need any help paying your mortgage? Because it sounds like you're pretty strapped. She's so rude. And I'm like, yeah, I know, won't you try and kick me out of the kingdom huh I'm only 14 you know I'm like 14 and you know my parents are witnesses go for it I was the rudest person I like seriously was rude but I've never in my life been so offended and so it was like I told them I was gonna tell that story so I told them you know there's nothing more hurtful where it's like sorry I'm like talking too much I'm like talking more than you are. I'm
SPEAKER_00:sorry. It's your show.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I know.
SPEAKER_00:But I
SPEAKER_01:like talking to you in return.
SPEAKER_00:How long were you married when you got married at 16?
SPEAKER_01:Three years and 26 days. Do you know exactly how long you were married? Like exactly? No.
SPEAKER_00:Too long?
SPEAKER_01:I do. And then my second marriage was about four years. And my third was, God, 19, I think. I don't even want to think about that. I've been married, you know, married. I've been married longer than I've been single, you know. Because I was married so young. Never, I was never once allowed to marry who I wanted. Never allowed to date who I wanted. Like, never. Never. Not once. Not once. Able to just date who I wanted. I don't want to date who I want. Never. Never. Always had to settle because for some reason it was like, well, that's the best I can do because I'm in the witnesses and then you're in a congregation and you're not allowed to go to other congregations. Like I was even limited when I was a witness, I was limited to my congregation. If I dated someone out of sight of my congregation, they, the brothers threw a fit. Like I was so controlled. If I was more control. Okay.
UNKNOWN:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:i was more controlled about who i could date than any than every other witness combined i couldn't just date who i wanted at all ever
SPEAKER_00:what was it
SPEAKER_01:Cause I'm demonized smurf girl, you know? And my family controlling the organization. It was like, you know, my stepdad used that as leverage. Can you imagine, like, imagine, imagine your daughter being demonized smurf girl and the leverage you would have of like, guess what I couldn't show. Guess what I can say. Guess what's in my judo. initial file, like, you know. And then I was thrown away like garbage. Like they throw people away like garbage. And it's like, oh, no, brothers, I'll throw you away like garbage. You know, you want to see demonized? I'm capable of a lot. Like I was capable of that at like, you know, what, 82? I think I was like eight, almost nine when it happened. Probably I just turned nine. April 8th, 1982. I'm capable of that in single digit age. And I've been capable of a Wow, ever since. You know? So, God. This is, yeah, I got super triggered the other night. I've never had my abuse so triggered as the other night. Oh, I'm sorry. Thanks. It's good, though, to have this forum where I can show people what being triggered looks like. Where you can see other... programs of how being triggered by something can really where you can see it other Mitch is choking to death.
SPEAKER_00:That last puff was good.
SPEAKER_01:Are you smoking weed? Yeah. Oh, just nicotine. Nicotine Tony. I was going to buy a pack of cigarettes, but then I forgot. Because I just forgot. You know, nicotine will make you forgetful, I think. But... Oh, so what kind of... You didn't see... When you saw Brothers... eyeballing other little girls, you know. You had to have seen the eyeballing of little girls, like, well, you know, she's not old enough yet, but, you know, I'm going to wait. Or they would say, I'm waiting on little sister so-and-so until she comes of age.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Yeah, I would hear that. And one brother told me one time, he was, oh my goodness, sorry, he was waiting on his one to turn 18. Because he felt he could train her good.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, the troll?
UNKNOWN:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I can't believe you just said that, Mitch. Yeah. Yeah, she'll be young enough to train.
SPEAKER_00:Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_01:She'll be young enough to keep under control. Oh, God. Oh.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, he said that. I told him, don't ever talk like that around me again.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, God. On JW Match. I've been on JW Match a lot.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I see.
SPEAKER_01:So I went from zero to 3,000 with zero attention. I just put it on there, my profile on there, and left it. Because, you know, you have to pay for it to, like, interact mainly. And so I just put it on there. So I got 3,000. views then what you can do is you can Hark them. Like you can, you can hark them where it's like, where you're interested, you know, like right swipe, you can swipe right down or you can swipe left. So I was swiping right, swiping right, swiping right. I went from 3000 to 4,500 in just a couple of days. Also, you know, what's huge. Cause I was looking my pictures. I've got where I made like a kingdom hall crash, you know, where I'm standing with myself. It's not a real one, but I edited it so it looks like a Kingdom Hall crack. And I've got me with my Fez hat on, that one picture of me with my Fez hat on. I've got me as Uncle Tony. I've got these pictures. I've got several hundred likes of my photos. My photos, I haven't looked recently. It's at least, it's between three to five hundred likes of my photos. Do you know the average likes because i was like i got a lot of likes of my photos i like i can't believe it you know i've got a lot of likes most other accounts have zero likes of their photos
SPEAKER_00:and
SPEAKER_01:hardly any of them have more than five likes of their five but i've got like three to five hundred likes and all the other accounts have like zero to five
SPEAKER_00:oh my goodness
SPEAKER_01:so that's pretty funny money. And that's the way it was at the Kingdom Hall. You know, it was overwhelming at the Kingdom Hall. Even when I'm overtly, here's me in my Fez hat. Here's me doing a Kingdom Hall crash. Here's me mocking Uncle Tony. Here's me doing this. And it's popular. So they're awake on JW Match. Or they're stupid. Probably more like they're stupid and don't know. Like, oh, look at her in this little red hat. I don't even know. like i should just put like a big pentagram on me or something like somehow pagan i'm just pagan pagan or i hate jehovah like just like i hate jehovah i don't know like what more
SPEAKER_00:they still wouldn't care
SPEAKER_01:no they
SPEAKER_00:don't
SPEAKER_01:just as i'm sitting here it's going ping ping ping because they email messages it's pinging it's pinging all the time it's like thing it's annoying i'm gonna have to shut it down because as soon as i started to write swipe It was like, it doubled, you know, it went from 3,000 to 4,500. So it was like, you know, it doubled, you know, what a, you know, 50% more. You're
SPEAKER_00:popular.
SPEAKER_01:Young Brothers is thirsty.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:They're thirsty. You're thirsty, man. He's like, yeah, Thirsty
SPEAKER_00:Brothers. Wow.
SPEAKER_01:but
SPEAKER_00:i'm laying low
SPEAKER_01:yeah yeah And then, like, dating is completely different now than, obviously, other than the Jehovah's Witnesses. It's different just from the time frame of dating. Then taking into account the Jehovah's Witness aspect of it, I don't, you know, I don't even know. How does it even work? You probably don't know either. How
SPEAKER_00:does what work?
SPEAKER_01:dating work, like in the normal world. I even tried to do Tinder. Oh my God, I tried to do Tinder like a while ago when I first woke up, when I first woke up in like 2016. From 2016 to 2017, I tried to do Tinder. What a disaster. I don't even remember. I actually am still friends with one of the guys I met on Tinder. I made a friend. We've been friends for what? Eight years? No, wait, that's more than that. Well, we met in 2018. So like eight years we've been friends. So I did make a friend on Tinder. We dated on and off.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:But when you're dating on and off for eight years, we're like practically married. I'm like, I actually like him more than any of my ex-husbands. Like, seriously. I'm like, you know, he's the only non-husband that I've ever lived.
UNKNOWN:Wow.
SPEAKER_01:Because he knows not to bug me.
SPEAKER_00:He
SPEAKER_01:puts up with me.
SPEAKER_00:What would you do if somebody from a JW match said they wanted to date you?
SPEAKER_01:From a JW where?
SPEAKER_00:Match.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, that they want to date me? Yeah. They're asking me as you're saying that. They're ringing in.
SPEAKER_00:You just ignore them?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, there's like 4,500 of them. 4,500. I've said no to 4,500 already. It's like, no, thank you. And I don't even look because there's no desire. I know that it would be a nightmare. That would be a nightmare. What's the point? So I ignore it? Yeah, I've got asked out on 4,500 dates so far. And I think I'm engaged to a bunch of them. Because once you heart their account, does that mean you're engaged?
SPEAKER_00:No, I just mean you're interested in each other.
SPEAKER_01:Want to say it again?
SPEAKER_00:I think it means you all are interested in each other.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Well, on JW Match is where my Uncle Clyde, not Jessica, met.
SPEAKER_00:Oh.
SPEAKER_01:Who got murdered.
SPEAKER_00:Wow.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. So that's why I go on there, because I wanted to see... sorry i wanted to see what it was like you know like you know they got murdered because of them you know getting married at the circumstance living with uncle brent and everything They got married at the courthouse. It was all secret. They were all pillow gate. You know, they met on JW match. They were being all pillow gatey. And so I went on there to see why did she pick my uncle Clyde out of everyone? Like seriously, my uncle Clyde Hanson was the least choice of, did she deliberately pick? Cause I was thinking that did you, did she deliberately pick? the ickiest brother she could possibly find on that site? Or was my uncle Clyde Hanson, you know, Clyde Hanson, was he the best choice that she could choose on that site? Was he either the worst one and she was stupid or was that the best choice? And I don't know. I think maybe it was the best choice she could have. But then they ended up murdered because of it. And I was like, God, why did you choose Uncle Clyde? What are you thinking? You know, choosing somebody off a JW match? What kind of horror nightmare is that? You know, it's like Jehovah's Witness Jeffrey Dahmer you just chose. You're going to end up. And I remember thinking, I'm not like, well, I guess I am kind of clairvoyant, but I'm thinking she's going to wind up getting chopped up with a machete you know like she's gonna get and then she did so I go on there I go on there and the reason why I go on there is because I'm thinking about her and I keep an eye out thinking there's a bunch of other Jessica's on here like I want to say to you sisters you know when you're going on the JW match and My Aunt Jessica was swiping, swiping, swiping and chose Uncle Clyde and moved in with Uncle Clyde and Uncle Brent and wound up chopped up with a machete. Don't you be going on that JW match. That's why I go on there. And, you know, I pick certain ones. I'm like, this is what's going on. That is like, you know, a nightmare fest going on in there.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, Pat.
SPEAKER_01:And there are a bunch of fake ones, too. There are some attractive ones, but I can tell they're not real. And if they are, I have no idea. But there are some attractive pictures. I was like, that's an attractive guy. That's weird. But I think they're all fake.
SPEAKER_00:You
SPEAKER_01:should go on there too and tell me what the female side looks like. Would you do that? Just make some account.
SPEAKER_00:Make a fake account?
SPEAKER_01:Yes. Make it real. Put your cigar picture. Put your cigar one. And then tell me when you find me. That would be hysterical.
SPEAKER_00:I don't like witness women.
SPEAKER_01:You don't have to talk to them, Mitch. You just make it and see what happens.
SPEAKER_00:I don't even like looking at them.
SPEAKER_01:You don't have to look.
SPEAKER_00:You look
SPEAKER_01:like them like you. You're just scared because you won't beat me in views. You think of it as a competition.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah,
SPEAKER_01:it's a JW match competition to see who's more likable, me or you.
SPEAKER_00:Something about you already got me beat, so.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. No, no, I'll give you, like, a year head start. I'll stop, and then you... Well, I've been doing it for a year. A year. You know what? There's one thing about me. I've got dedication. I'm dedicated.
SPEAKER_00:You are.
SPEAKER_01:I know. Some of you ex-JWs who are new, if you had any idea the stuff that me and my friends in the Army have done over the years, over the decades, about time so many people are waking up. It's about time. It's an influx. I can see COVID and everything and all the changes are waking people up, but it's like... it's about time
SPEAKER_00:and
SPEAKER_01:this is what it looks like when the organization is crumbling you know
SPEAKER_00:yeah it is there's
SPEAKER_01:really nothing more to fight in my opinion you know heal and get closure
SPEAKER_00:So
SPEAKER_01:it's been an hour. I hope this has been a good show, everybody. Here I'm in my shrine, you know. Got my stuff. You can see my house now. That's right there. That's where the magic happens. It looks kind of like it's outside. That's not outside. There's outside. Yeah, this is my place. My little genie bottle. This is where I This is where the Smurf girl does her voodoo. I do voodoo in the fireplace. That's where I burn pictures of the governing body and my enemies.
UNKNOWN:Wow.
SPEAKER_01:I do rituals in the fireplace. That's a butter churn. It's where I churn my enemies.
SPEAKER_00:She's just kidding around.
UNKNOWN:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:No, I'm keeping my
SPEAKER_00:smile.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, I'm back. I got a phone call. It's probably somebody from JW Match. JW Match is like, you know, hey, you got to start paying for this because you're getting too much activity. I'll be like, hey, I haven't gotten lucky once.$4,500, I haven't gotten lucky once. Not once. Like, none. Not
SPEAKER_00:once.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I'm just, oh, I'm toying with their emotions. Oh, God Mitch, do you think I'll get disfellowshipped for toying with their emotions?
SPEAKER_00:Yes, because you're not dating with marriage in view.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, I'd marry all of them if I could. You know, it would take marrying that many to make me happy. You're like, okay. No, you all disappoint me.
SPEAKER_00:Oh,
SPEAKER_01:you know what the next new light.
SPEAKER_00:What?
SPEAKER_01:Plural marriage.
SPEAKER_00:What?
SPEAKER_01:Plural marriage. They're going opposite of everything, right? Opposite. No college, college. Beards, no beards. Singular marriage, no. You know what? Fornicating is going to be fine.
UNKNOWN:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:Because it is. They're going opposite. So then fornication, they're going to say, brothers, we realize that not sleeping together before marriage causes a problem, and we think it's a requirement that you do sleep together and live together before you're married. Like, you know what I mean? If they're going to go the exact opposite of reality every time, what's the opposite of everything else, you know? Like... ties no ties
SPEAKER_00:yeah i
SPEAKER_01:wonder what else they could change that you know Oh, with chaperones. No chaperones. Oh, no chaperones. Can you imagine? I will type up a letter from the faithful slave myself that chaperones cramp a guy's style and it emasculates. Can you imagine me and Mark Sanderson going on a date? And being like, hey, maybe Samuel and Gloria Heard can come with as chaperone. You know? Maybe the Letts, do you want to go to Chuck E. Cheese again? You know, because we went to Chuck E. Cheese once for hospitality with the Letts. We took them to Chuck E. Cheese. Have you ever seen Stephen Letts' face when he sees the Chuck E. Cheese band for the first time ever? He was just like, what?
UNKNOWN:No.
SPEAKER_01:No, seriously. He was standing in front of the ratty old Chuck E. Cheese band just like, wow. He was so in awe. That was the moment, I think, that he got chosen for the governing body because they're like any guy that just stands with his mouth agape cocking at the Chuck E. Cheese band to easily impress getting pizza buffet. He loves buffets. The The way to Stephen Lett's heart is a smorgasbord. Hey, hey, hey, Brother Lett, hey, Uncle Stephen, you like a smorgasbord? Mmm, just salad and, you know, breadsticks. All-you-can-eat breadsticks. You know, any kind of smorgasbord. No, his favorite word is smorgasbord. Did you know that?
SPEAKER_00:No, I didn't know that.
SPEAKER_01:We used to have a fight, me and Stephen Lett. on whether it was smorgasbord or buffet. It's buffet by the lat. Buffet. No, smorgasbord is more. Borky, borky, borky, smorgasbordy.
SPEAKER_00:That's him. That's old school. When I was in Chicago, a kid in Chicago, it was a restaurant. That was the name of it. Smorgasbord.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, it's probably owned by the lats. Don't eat there. Condorosa.
SPEAKER_00:Every witness went to those two places, the Smokers Board or Ponderosa after the assembly.
SPEAKER_01:But only salad bar. If you went to Ponderosa, okay, back in the 80s and stuff, if you went to Ponderosa or Bonanza, they were the two same things. If you went to Ponderosa and you ordered like a steak with your buffet, oh you were wealthy and you probably get publicly reproved for showing off your wealth by ordering a ribeye with your salad bar.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:In fact, I know it's true that it's like, well, we don't want to, I remember my mother. Oh my God. My mother. I'm like, I want to, I want, you know, can I get like a hamburger or something too? I want to get the ribeye. I'd always want to get the ribeye. I don't know why. And I, be like can I can I please get a ribeye can I get a steak with the buffet I don't I don't you know and she'd be like we don't want to show off our wealth honey we don't want to show off we're not just getting an entree with the salad bar was a show off of wealth and it was it was you couldn't do it and so we wouldn't be able to but then then mom would say but we'll come back next week and then we will and be like okay or or even going to uh uh going to furs and getting a soda with your furs do you remember that
SPEAKER_00:no
SPEAKER_01:oh well here going to furs and getting um a soda with your furs was a big giant deal.
SPEAKER_00:So what is that, a restaurant?
SPEAKER_01:Furs is like a buffet, like hometown buffet, like Golden Corral, where you buy the drink separate. Like the drink is, you get the buffet and the drink is extra. Or if you went and you did not have a buy one, get one free coupon, where you would be this big long line of witnesses going in and they would have, where you'd have to get like the inside of the shopper You know, with the coupon in it. Well, I'm getting all Midwest on people. But you go to get the shopper with the buy one, get one free coupon. And then there'd be several of them. And then they'd hand them all out to everybody to get. Buy one, get one free. And then just be all these witnesses. Buy one, get one free. I've never seen a bunch of cheapskates, a bigger group of cheapskates in my goddamn life. And then the ladies that are the waitresses would be so upset. It's like, oh, here come all those witnesses. They don't tip. You know, you don't this, you don't that. You know, the tipping. Where's my tip calculator? I wouldn't want to tip too much. You know, you gotta What a tiptoe. What's so how much? Okay. Do you remember the number one most embarrassing thing of being at a buffet with your Jehovah's Witness father? What? And he says real loud, so how much are we supposed to tip this lady, you know? Are we supposed to tip her? What are we supposed to tip? I don't want to tip too much. Is this too much? And talking too loud.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, my goodness.
SPEAKER_01:It's like, it's fine. And then I'd take more out and just put more in there and just be like, just shut up. You're so embarrassing. How much is 15%? 10% should be fine. What's 10%? I'm saying like a moron. The bill, 50, he'd always go like this. Oh, my God. He'd get the check. There'd be like, you know, who was going to grab the check, and he'd go like this, and he'd go, ooh. You know, like, whoa. That's a lot. So how much is 10%? percent on fifty dollars
SPEAKER_00:oh
SPEAKER_01:my goodness you know it's just ten percent like if you don't know i can't tell you you know not that hard
SPEAKER_00:you just
SPEAKER_01:want to just lose your mind and it's so embarrassing so embarrassing
SPEAKER_00:he didn't have a smartphone
SPEAKER_01:I know. He needed a tip calculator. So we'd always just say, you know, I'm going to get you a tip calculator. You know, 10%. You know, it's like, what? Five bucks. You know, take off a zero. Five dollars. Double it. Ten dollars. You know, give her ten dollars. Give her twenty. Just shut up and just give her some money. Just a tip to a Jehovah's Witness. Well, is she a sister? Then You'd have to know, are you tipping a sister? Yep. Or are you tipping a worldly? Don't want to tip a... He'd say, don't want to tip a worldly too much. Don't want to tip a worldly too much. She's just going to go and spend it on drugs anyway. You know, she's just going to go and fornicate with it. Right? You know? Oh, he was the worst. Worst person. It's just the worst Muslim embarrassing person I've ever anything in my entire life. That's why he doesn't have any friends anymore. All of his friends are in prison. He's got nobody to go to furs with. Furs is closed. And the reason why is because all that went to furs, they're gone. I knew that. I knew when the witnesses were, if the witnesses ever, like if the organization ever went down, I used to joke to, to Tard and Hanson. I used to say, you'll know when the organization is bankrupt is when FERS goes out of business. And it has like, there was several FERS here in town and they're all out of business. And I'm like, it's because no more witnesses. They're out of business. So if furs went bankrupt, then that means witnesses went bankrupt too. It's delicious. It's delicious. Oh, it's a smorgasbord of apostasy, brother. Uncle Steven, it's a smorgasbord. Look at Mitch. Chocolate Mitch, just like a chocolate mousse, like an Oreo cookie with his gray beard. That's a smorgasbord dessert. We've got all this smorgasbord of all these apostates. There's all kinds There's me, you know. You've got so many apostates to choose from. I remember it wasn't that long ago, Mitch, that you either, you know, you watch Kim and Mikey or you watch me or you watch Lloyd or you watch Six Screens. That's the way it was just 2017. That you did not have, or you watch Critical Thinker with JT and Lady C. And there was, that was basically... the the only channels that there were was like this two two three four like you know the five of us were the main channels and everyone else was kind of like a viewer and now you've just got so many channels to find in you know like like panda tower didn't exist um jw thoughts did not exist like all of those did not exist on YouTube back when I started. None of them did. And now it's like you go and TikTok didn't even exist. TikTok didn't exist. Instagram was not being used. We didn't do Instagram, you know? And now it's like you scroll and like just apostate, apostate, apostate. I don't know with yours. Do you just scroll through apostates? Like there's so many.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it seems like it often is. Some days it would be all apostates. Some days I get nothing but active Jehovah's Witnesses.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:It pisses me off.
SPEAKER_01:Well, those are fake. Just know, Witnesses don't do Instagram. They don't do that. That's the organization, I know that for a fact, that is AI.
UNKNOWN:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:Like those Instagram-y TikTok-ies, those are fake. Those are not real witnesses. That's the organization making it look like so that there is some sort of presence of witnesses online. But those are not real witnesses. Real witnesses don't do that. You know, like did you do that? Well, you did. Didn't you do those inspirational things? But of real witnesses, did you know of other real witnesses that did what you did?
SPEAKER_00:Like make a motivational page?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, like real witnesses that did Instagram.
SPEAKER_00:Like just for personal use?
SPEAKER_01:No, to promote the organization. It would just be you and Daryl Wahlberg. That was it. Everyone else is fake. They're all fake. There's no real witnesses online. Other than that. There's hardly any. Now Daryl Wahlberg is the last witness online. So, well, it's been a great show. I think I said what I need to say. God, it's been really triggering of what the witnesses did to us to be able to find a mate outside the organization. Like, it's exhausting.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:That's why I've been, you know, single for so long now. just recovering, like the recovery. It's been like almost like eight years, eight years of marriage recovery. And I think I'm just now, I'm just now like as a single person decorating an apartment, you know, a townhouse where it's like, okay, I'm by myself. It's taken eight years to be like, okay, and I'm going to decorate it how I like it. I'm going to make it and, you know, and do this. I'm a single girl and, you know, And so I feel your pain to all the rest of you out there. And you don't have to settle. You can date anybody you want. Anybody. As many as you want until you find the right one. And if someone... You know, even if you have interest in someone and you're allowed to change your mind, boys and girls, that if you go out on a date with somebody and even if they think that you led them on, like, oh, I thought you liked me or something, you can say, oh, I'm sorry, it just didn't work out.
SPEAKER_00:Yep.
SPEAKER_01:You know, don't touch my arm like that. Don't this, don't that. Stop. It's very hard to say no as a Jehovah's Witness girl. where we're not allowed to say no. And I'm enjoying saying no. This feels good. Just to say it just does. No. Nope. Don't want to.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, you're right.
SPEAKER_01:Yep. Thanks, Mitch, for the platform. It makes me feel better.
SPEAKER_00:You're welcome. Thank you.
SPEAKER_01:This is the first time I've smiled throughout the whole broadcast.
UNKNOWN:I'm like...
SPEAKER_01:And
SPEAKER_00:how can people find you?
SPEAKER_01:I'm on TikTok. Oh, is TikTok going to be taken down tonight? Is that a lie?
SPEAKER_00:No, they were talking about some time in September.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, okay. I thought it was tonight. Okay. Fake news. XJW Smurf girl. Donald Smurf. Fake news, fake news. Okay. I just want to say Donald Smurf for several times. Hey, Donald Smurf. You can find me on Instagram, XJW Smurf Girl, Rose Bundy. And on TikTok too. YouTube. Facebook is Vanessa Lee Rose Bundy. Yeah, you can find me all over. Just Google me and click on something and you'll find me. Message me. It'll be okay. Unless you're from Jada be matched, then mind your own beeswax. Just gawk and don't say a word. That's what they do. Yeah, I'm a man eater. Oh, I see another one just came up. Oh, see, you can't see. It says, good news. One of your favorites just text messaged you or emailed me. It's like, goodness. It just popped up. Ridiculous. Well, thanks a lot for listening to Watchtower After Dark, everybody. Mitch, do you have anything? How can people find you? Are you
SPEAKER_00:good? Or
SPEAKER_01:they already found you if they're watching
SPEAKER_00:you. Just look me up on XJDub on any platform. I'll come up
SPEAKER_01:yep and then you can we're on iHeartRadio and Spotify and a bunch of others yeah Google Watchtower After Dark you can find us Smurf Girl and Mitch or Rose Bundy and Mitch whatever you know Watchtower After Dark if you Google it you'll find us and yeah you can find us with a quick Google search of all our different forums
SPEAKER_00:yeah
SPEAKER_01:and we love you And it is going to be okay. It's going to be okay. It is a long journey. You know, a journey of healing. But I can see that for all of us, it is going to be okay. We're going to survive this and we're going to be happy. We're going to get closure. We're going to move on. We're going to have, you know, a big giant party at some point after this.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Thanks, Mitch. All right. Have a good one, everybody. You ready to turn it off? Yeah. Okay. Love you guys. Have a good one.
SPEAKER_00:Bye.
SPEAKER_01:See you next time.