Ep.026 Prove Them Wrong: Finding Your Voice in a World That Doubts You

In Episode 26 of Beyond Limits, we sit down with Melbourne-based creator and Paddock 43 Podcast co-host, Patricia Mellior-Kotaridis, someone who’s carved out her own lane in the high-pressure world of Formula 1 media.

But this conversation goes far beyond racing.

This is about what it really takes to back yourself when no one hands you credibility.
To build something from nothing.
And to find your voice in environments where you’re constantly being tested.

Pat opens up about her journey from being a fan of F1 to building a growing platform and community, and the moments along the way where she had to step up, speak up, and grow into the person the space demanded.

We dive into:
- The shift from “just a passion project” to something real
- Learning confidence through action and not waiting for it
- Navigating pressure, doubt, and feeling underestimated
- What respect actually looks like in competitive environments
- The unspoken dynamics of stepping into spaces where you have to prove yourself
- And how those experiences shape resilience and identity

We also unpack a powerful layer of her story. Motherhood.
Rather than using it as a reason to step back, Pat has used it as fuel to keep building. Balancing family, ambition, and identity, she shares what it looks like to pursue something meaningful while still showing up fully at home and why it’s about integration, not sacrifice.

This episode isn’t just for F1 fans, it’s for anyone building something, finding their voice, or stepping into rooms where they don’t yet feel fully seen.

If you’ve ever felt like you had to prove yourself… this one’s for you.

No excuses.
No limits.
Let’s go.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_05 0:10

Alright, so let's get it. Let's get it. Alright, team, we are back for episode 26 of Beyond Limits, the podcast where we dive deeper. Push further. And we go Beyond Limits. Oh, juicy. Today we have a very special guest. Uh, very, very interesting topic to speak about as well. So today we are we introduce Patricia. We're gonna come back because I want to learn how to pronounce this full name correctly. Yeah. Uh so Patricia is the co-host of Paddock 43 Podcast, uh, where they are making some loud noise in the F1 space. Um and it's all all about backing yourself, building something from nothing, and finding your voice in a space where you don't always get handed credibility straight away. And I think it's really important, as we do speak about mindset, to dive into that. So welcome to the podcast.

SPEAKER_04 1:01

Thank you. Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited to be here.

SPEAKER_05 1:04

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_04 1:05

So excited. It's so nice being on the other side of the microphone.

SPEAKER_05 1:08

Yes. It's always easier, isn't it?

SPEAKER_04 1:10

Yeah. And you know, like we're true co-hosts. So now I know the feeling of when we interview someone. How does it feel?

SPEAKER_05 1:17

True. It's nice.

SPEAKER_04 1:18

It's nice. Yeah, it's kind of nice to like relinquish the power. But I also have some power.

SPEAKER_05 1:22

Yeah, you've got you're well, you're a you're a you're a veteran. We're gonna take some a lot of lessons from you. You guys are you're killing it. But thank you. Patricia. Like it feels weird calling you Patricia. I've known nothing. I know. Oh, so it's like it's so professional. How long have we known each other?

SPEAKER_04 1:37

Like I reckon I was in year eight when I met you.

SPEAKER_05 1:40

Yeah, yeah. And those all those all the wild house parties from Sage back in the day.

SPEAKER_04 1:45

All the wild house parties.

SPEAKER_05 1:47

We've grown up now.

SPEAKER_04 1:48

I know. It's funny because I was like, Schmiddy. You're like, no one calls me that. Schmidty. Oh, let's go. Little Schmidty. Like when people say to me, like beef.

SPEAKER_05 1:58

Yeah, beefy.

SPEAKER_04 1:59

Because in high school everyone called me beef.

SPEAKER_05 2:01

Yeah, it's we don't say those anymore, do we?

SPEAKER_04 2:03

No, but like I wouldn't be offended. But people like white beef. Well, Patricia. Patricia Patty, beef patty.

SPEAKER_05 2:10

Oh. Okay. Well, it's like it's pretty funny because that's why when you say we used to always say like Schmidty or Beef and stuff like that. So when I hear your name, I'm like, who's Patricia?

SPEAKER_02 2:19

Seriously, who's that?

SPEAKER_05 2:21

Yeah, it's me. Well, let's dive into something just a little bit lighthearted instantly. How do we pronounce your whole name?

SPEAKER_04 2:29

Well, okay. It's funny because I don't really use my middle name, but like technically, my legal name is Patricia Giovanna Valeri. Right? Okay. But then I don't really use Giovanna, which is my middle name, which was my nonna's name. I and then growing up, I always used Patricia Valeri Melior, that had my mum's surname attached, because like my mum raised us. I was like, obviously, I need my mom's surname. And then my husband is Gotaridis, he's Greek. And I didn't take on his name because I was like, I'm so connected to my heritage, I didn't want to change my name. Even though there's a part of me that's like, oh, I was like, Do I do I legally? And this was the other thing. I had this big issue with my passport where I'd this whole thing during COVID, I had to pay for this passport because my old passport was stolen. And I was like, I've paid so much money for my passport, and it's got Patricia Giovanna Valeri. There's no way I'm paying, like, I need to make use of this $700 passport. So I'm like, maybe in 10 years when it expires, maybe I'll add on Coterides. But basically, to the beginning of the question, it's Patricia Giovanna Valeri Melior Cotaridis.

SPEAKER_05 3:32

Whoa.

SPEAKER_02 3:33

Whoa.

SPEAKER_04 3:35

We can just say Patricia Patty. Patricia Patri.

SPEAKER_05 3:39

Patricia. Right, Casey, let's have one crack at it. So let's go there. What is it? Patricia Valeri Meleri.

SPEAKER_03 3:47

Yeah, Melior.

SPEAKER_05 3:48

Melior. So Patricia Valeri Melior.

SPEAKER_03 3:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 3:52

Patricia Valeri.

SPEAKER_04 3:54

Yeah, that's good. We can just say Patrick, Patricia.

SPEAKER_01 3:57

What's the origin?

SPEAKER_04 3:58

So uh, well, that's the other thing. Patricia, like when my mum named me, she named me in Spanish, strong name. She gave me my sister, Isabella, Patricia, strong name. And then English it's Patricia.

SPEAKER_05 4:11

Do you know what I mean? It just takes all the weight off it makes them. All the weight off, but it's horrible.

SPEAKER_04 4:14

Literally it does. And then Patricia. Literally. So Venezuela and then Valeri is Italian.

SPEAKER_05 4:20

Oh, beautiful. Spanish Italian. Thank you for that. Um, thank you for that lesson. That's great. So I think we're gonna learn a lot. So Patricia? Patricia? So Pat Yeah. Easy. So obviously, before we dive into, you've got a lot of really exciting things going on at the moment, and our listeners would love to hear it. Before we dive into that, uh, a lot of the stuff we like to do is we like to figure out who who you were before you started, started this uh beast of a journey that you're on. So if you can let our listeners know, so who were you before Potty?

SPEAKER_04 4:56

It's interesting because I had a core. I mean, if we talk about work-wise, I think this is one of those things you always talk about yourself in like career mode. I had a corporate background. So graduated from uni. Awesome. One of those things where you're like, oh, I this is the path that I think I have to follow. I started working corporate. I was working in supply chain in aerospace supply chain. So I started working in like the aviation industry, selling aircraft parts and chemicals, very dry, very boring. Um, always wanted to go into fashion. So I started in that industry purely because they said it's like super meticulous, it's a good way to learn. Did that, then went into fashion supply chain. I always felt like something was missing. And so I, you know, would sort of stay in a job like a year and a half, then change. Also a great way to earn more money. But would change jobs, went into a different fashion role in supply chain. Then I had a really great job. I was working with this Italian handbag company, which was great because I did all my meetings in Italian. I was like quite high up in the supply chain. It had I always think like had I stayed there, I could be on the most crazy money, but it just, I was like, I'm just not happy. It just doesn't feel right. And I think that I've always been very brave in just not like I think each their own, but I always say like people need to really listen to their gut. Yeah. I completely can understand as well that maybe some people aren't necessarily in a situation where they can do that. I was, you know, didn't really have any dependence. I think at that stage, bought a house, but then we had moved in with my in-laws, and it was just, and I'm also very lucky that my husband was like, I trust you, I support you. Like, if you know, this is what you want to do, then like I back you. Um, so I then I went into recruitment for a year, thinking, do I want to do recruitment? Nope. I then was like, oh, fashion buying, went into fashion buying, started fashion buying, and I think that would have been a fantastic career if you're like fresh out of uni. But I the pay was just awful. And I was like, this is not it. And at the same time, it's crazy because that year, 2023, that year, I turned 30, I moved house, like we moved house, I went into fashion buying, and we also started the podcast. So all star and and I got married that year too. And then I found out I was pregnant that yeah, crazy, crazy, crazy year. Yeah, it was just like a really boring, boring year. Um yeah, so my friend, it's crazy now as well, because Elle, my co-host, she we knew each other. We knew each other through a mutual friend, very surface level. We'd see each other, hi, how you going? Whatever. We kind of realized that we both loved Formula One. Like I grew up watching Formula One, which I'm we might get into, and she did as well. And she was like, Hey, do you want to come over and watch um Monaco quality? Because I don't know if you guys know much about Grand Prix, but like obviously Monaco, a touch, but Monaco, iconic race. The thing is, it's not actually a very interesting race that the what sets the grid is quality. So you watch quality, that's kind of unless some crazy thing happens, which has happened, that's like the way the grid starts, is the way the race will finish. Watch quality, and we sat there drinking margaritas, and she was like, kind of want to start a podcast. I was like, Yep, done. And we literally just wrote all these plans down. Initially, there were three of us and started the podcast. Um, and then I it was kind of a hobby, really. It was a hobby. Got married, found out I was pregnant on the last day of my honeymoon, and we were like, oh. That was not part of the plan. We were gonna wait four years. Um, and it was honestly, I mean, granted, the fact that my son is the greatest human on earth and everything happens for a reason, but also having him gave me the strength to just not go back to my corporate job because I was like, I don't love this. I also felt very lucky that, and I'm sure I don't want to answer too many questions in one go, but I felt very lucky that I went into the motherhood journey having my podcast. Awesome. Because I had this thing that I could do very slowly whilst being a mum, which I think helps me not lose my identity.

SPEAKER_05 9:22

Perfect.

SPEAKER_04 9:23

That was a very long answer.

SPEAKER_05 9:24

That was well, that was great. That was that was the perfect answer. Was literally uh this is good. You've literally opened the door to I'll uh I'll take these ones off the list. Um such an amazing answer as well. Like, thank you. You've covered so many key topics in there purpose, identity, uh, motherhood. I think it's if you listen to what Patricia just said to our audience in terms of the feeling, this is what I really want to double down on in terms of the internal feeling of feeling like you can do more, feeling like you there's something else out there. 100% and massive respect to you too for taking that plunge. Because you never know if you don't have a crack. 100%. So well done as well. On the and there's a lot to unpack, which we're gonna get through anyway, but such a huge journey. And when did you so when you started the potty, you had a lot of things going on? When did you find out when did you realize that this was serious?

SPEAKER_04 10:20

Yeah, it's interesting because I think that so we started, it was literally, yeah. So Monaco GP is in May. We had that night where we watched Monaco Grand Prix. I think we purposely were like, let's go and get coffee next week. We penciled in, I mean, I don't know if this is like a real female thing to do, but we were like, and maybe not so necessarily female, but like us-coded, we were like, we need a pencil in a photo shoot. Because we were kind of like, if we do a photo shoot and get material out there and start talking about this, there's no going back. Like as soon as you start, as soon as you put, you know what I mean? Like as soon as you put yourself out there, people are gonna be like, What wait, what's going on? Like, this is the whole thing as well about like how people have fear to start things. Just start.

SPEAKER_02 11:02

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 11:03

Like, and that that's a whole other thing. But so we were like, let's put a photo shoot in. We did a photo shoot, um, we posted about it. We then found a studio, booked a studio, started recording, and we were very much just like weekly. Like we are recording weekly and putting out episodes weekly. Granted, again, it is tricky with F1, like for example. Um, and if people do go and listen to my podcast, our last episode is terrible because we had audio issues and there has been a four-week break at the moment in Grand Prix, and there's always like uh a summer break or a winter break. So we kind of would have a few breaks here and there, which I guess isn't great. We find like it's good to always keep consistent. Yeah. Um, but yeah, so initially there were three of us that started the pod, I think a year in. So started in June 2023. I think by March the following year was our first Grand Prix with the pod. We had a bit of hype. And then I think Elle and I were very much like aligned on where we wanted the pod to go. And it wasn't until, and then Amy left the pod. No hard feelings, we love Amy. Um, she just had a lot of other stuff going on in her yeah in her life and in her career. She had a lot of F1 things going on as well. And it wasn't until the Grumprix, like we always knew we wanted to make it a full-time thing. And then Grumprix 2024, we were like, oh, we had a lot of work. No, sorry, Grumprix 2025. We had a lot of work, that Grumprix, and we were like, there's something here. And as well, getting a lot of interest from brands and people in media that were like, okay, that there's definitely something here. And it is interesting as well, because we were probably one of the first female pods. Like, there was a couple in the US and a couple in, there was one in Canada. We were probably one of the first ones here. Now there's a lot more kind of taking off, which is great to see because everyone has their space. We like to think that we were the pioneers in this space.

SPEAKER_05 13:02

Someone's gonna start it.

SPEAKER_04 13:03

Someone's gotta start it. And it's good, like it's uh you know, you people see what you're doing and and get inspired by that.

SPEAKER_01 13:10

So yeah, yeah. I love that. I think um something I want to highlight what you said before is like just start. And that is the hardest part to do is actually starting. Because it's like you feel like you don't have the competence level or the confidence level, but that comes when you start by doing and taking action.

SPEAKER_02 13:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:25

And then for you guys, also going back to when you all had that first conversation, you went over, had some margs, you're watching the Monaco Grand Prix. Um, what was the conversation like when you were like, all right, we're starting a podcast. What do we like, what route do we go down? How do we what was the idea behind the podcast?

SPEAKER_04 13:41

I think we were like, and especially and look, Elle definitely had this thought which is like there is a niche here because there are just not enough females talking about this, and we love F1. And I think as well, off the back of Drive to Survive.

SPEAKER_05 13:55

Great show.

SPEAKER_04 13:56

Great show. Um, there was a lot more fee, like there was a huge influx of female audiences coming through. And look, I love a lot of F1 podcasts because they're like a lot, they're a lot of them out there are very technical.

SPEAKER_02 14:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 14:08

Personally, I really enjoy listening to that. But I think for like 90% of the F1 viewership aren't really interested in that. It's not that exciting when they're like talking about, or maybe more people that are into the automotive side of it, but a lot of people aren't really that interested when they're talking about like aerodynamics of a car. I think it's really interesting. And so we were thinking there is a gap where females are talking about this and making it a little bit more almost like a drive to survive, but in your ears. Where we talk about, we do a race review, we talk about what's happening in the F1 world. Obviously, there's so much where people just like, oh, it's just cars driving around. But there's like so much like politics and the team dynamics and the drama, and then there's the wags element, like there's so much, and also it's like such a wealthy sport, and I think people are really interested in that element of it. So we kind of thought we need to talk about this from a female lens, whilst and then we had the idea like we'll get interviews and we'll do a few interviews as well, which we need to do more of.

SPEAKER_05 15:10

But yeah, you're doing well I th you're doing well, first of all. And I I think there's one thing that we want to probably you've segued into it perfectly. You've obviously entered, you're you're doing a really great thing for obviously the female audience and you know, uh showing a different perspective and bringing everyone everyone's exploded in the last, I would say, since Drive to Survive. Yeah. In saying that, um, you've obviously entered a very heavily male domin dominated sport. Um where so I guess my next question would be, you know, how you know have you always felt you've had to prove yourself, or how are you finding that transition into the F1 sport? A thousand percent.

SPEAKER_04 15:51

Yes, yeah. Um, yeah, it's interesting. Like I we're always having to prove ourselves. And Elle and I have both been around the sport since we were kids. Like being my dad's Italian. Unfortunately, I am a Ferrari fan, although this season, fortunately, what a Tafferari. Um, and my mum as well. My mum was a huge Ferrari, a huge F1 fan. She always says the day that she cried the most was when Eton Santa passed away. She always felt like her love for the sport kind of diminished a bit after he passed away. But she would always take us to Albert Park when we were kids. Awesome. Um, which is yeah, I've She've always been around it, yeah. Oh yeah, always been around it. It's so crazy. Like my memories of just there was barely anyone there. And Elle was very similar. Like El So Elle's dad worked in politics. She, you know, he was quite involved in F1, so she would go with him. And so I think that's one thing where we are sort of always having to prove, or where people will be like, what do you know about F1? But also, I remember once I was this man and he was like, Well, if you know about F1, then who won the 1986 driver's championship? I'm like, I don't know. I wasn't even alive. Also, like, my memory's not great.

SPEAKER_02 16:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 17:00

Like, even sometimes we're talking on the podcast and we're like, wait, okay, last year, this, who won that again? Like, I'm not like a I'm not a wizard knowing stats. So yeah, you do kind of always have to prove yourself. At the same time, I think that we have always it's hard because there are shitty men out there that want to prove something. Yeah. But there are also some really fantastic men that we have been very blessed. And like a lot of our media opportunities have actually come from a lot of men that are fantastic in the space, like Clint Stanaway and Felix, who work with Channel 9. Yeah. They were basically the ones that were like, come and do the Today show. So I think as well, yeah, you do have to prove yourself. But and I and I think as well, with this influx of new female fans, a lot of the time men will be like, Oh, you're just part of that new generation. It's like, well, no. But at the same time, it is a really nice feeling knowing that people can trust what you say. Like, I think as well, sometimes you will engage in a conversation. And sometimes I've definitely been in a conversation with a man where they're kind of almost like brushing you off thinking, what do you know?

SPEAKER_05 18:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 18:08

And then you really start delving, like, oh, you actually know what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_05 18:11

It's like you've got merit. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 18:13

I do. Like, I can analyze a race with well, like with a lens that understands, as opposed to just being like, oh, they just and which is fine. At the same time, like, you know, we we did an interview with Esteban Ock on a couple of years ago. And we were talking, which was cool. Very, very cool experience. And we were talking about Drive to Survive specifically. And he was like, I just don't understand. Like, what's the hate? Also, the fact of for the drivers, for the teams, it's just money. Like, more eyes equals more money. So why wouldn't this be beneficial for them? But they're like, What's the hate? I think it's just that really old school, staunch motorsport fan.

SPEAKER_02 18:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 18:56

Which they just need to get with the times.

SPEAKER_01 18:59

Oh, yeah. It's a different generation, eh? It's it's like that with everything too.

SPEAKER_04 19:03

And everything.

SPEAKER_01 19:04

Um, I think looking at like even like comment sections and going through stuff, what's some of the has that has that ever put doubts in your mind to to do what you do? Has it ever doubted yourself to say, like, am I doing the right thing? Am I in the right space?

SPEAKER_04 19:20

Do you know what? I definitely read comments where I've gotten a bit upset. And I've read something in you get that. But I think I think it's all having a co-host, like we kind of it helps because you keep each other in check. And I think that when we get even though Paddock43 is our baby and we've built it, and you know, you have like that's for example, when I'm looking at comments on our Instagram or our YouTube or our TikTok, even though it's our baby and it has our name on it, there's still like a shield, if that makes sense. Like if someone commented on one of my things personally and started to speak shit, am I allowed to swear?

SPEAKER_05 20:02

Yeah, you go, yeah. There's no there's no unbilder. Yeah, there's no okay.

SPEAKER_04 20:06

I it's all good. No set beep.

SPEAKER_05 20:08

Um, say what the fuck you want.

SPEAKER_04 20:10

We're not allowed to do it. I yeah, if someone says something and you're kind of like, uh, but it's never stopped me or never made me think, oh, maybe there's been a few comments. There was one thing that was really awful that happened. It was like maybe a couple a year or so ago, we found this fucking gross man in the UK who was just making awful comments. And there was a video of me and I was pregnant, and he he was talking, he was just play basically like trash talking us on YouTube. And then he said, and I was pregnant, and he said, clearly she knows how to use her vagina. And I was like, What the? Yeah. I was like, I was really upset and I had to do a statement about it. And then the worst thing was then he came out and he was like, Oh, well, you know, someone started defending him, being like, you don't know his humor. I was like, Yeah, that's not humor. No, no, no. That was, and that maybe more so gave us more fuel to just be like, no, like we have our space. And and so, yeah, kind of to circle back to your point. No, it's never made me go, I don't belong in this space. Like, I think you just have to kind of keep yourself in check. And the good thing about having a co-host, you can sort of bounce off and be like, oh, that sucks. But moving on. Because it is true, and I'm sure you guys have seen it where you can have 50 good comments, but then the one you see is the negative one.

SPEAKER_02 21:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 21:24

It's kind of just rewiring your brain to be like, Yep, noted, moving on. I think my biggest uh yeah, my biggest tip is to also just not give a shit.

SPEAKER_01 21:36

Thanks for the engagement.

SPEAKER_04 21:37

Yeah, literally, literally, thanks for the engagement. I'm like, get angry.

SPEAKER_02 21:41

Exactly.

SPEAKER_04 21:42

Get angry in the comments, fight with each other. But I remember I did this video, which actually wasn't even F1, it was more in the automotive space where I just spoke about child seat laws. And it one of the laws just said something about I just literally read an article and was like, I'm gonna talk about this. And it said something about how like kids need to be in a booster seat until 12. Or something. Right? Right. And Peter was like excellent. Outrage. People are like fighting in the comments. Elle was like to me, Elle wrote a comment being like, I was 100, she's really tall. She's like, I was 180 centimeters when I was 12. And so people are like, this is bullshit. I'm like, boost and walk away. And sort of engage with each other. You guys do the hard work.

SPEAKER_05 22:30

So no, it's good. Well, it's it's like, what is it? Pitbull, it's like if you're not, if you're not getting hated on, you're not relevant. So exactly. That's it's where, and I think it's Winston Churchill. This is a deep quote, this one, but it's old Winston Churchill. I think he said, if you're not, yeah, if you if you have no enemies, you stood for nothing. And I reckon I've always I've got that written on my board because I think that means you you don't actually stand on what you believe in. True, so true. So keep copying it. And I've got just a segue as well into that, because we've obviously got, like you said, it's just the way of the world. You know, you've got you've got bad men, you've got bad women, you've got all let's just say shitty people. Yep. So you've got shitty people. What is your general, you know, what's your feedback from because we've we've interviewed um and spoken to some very successful women, um, and I've worked with some, and they sometimes say a lot of the a lot of the worst stuff sometimes comes from women. How have you guys found with your dynamic? Have you been have they been really good with your your audience and stuff?

SPEAKER_04 23:29

I think it just comes down to there's shitty people everywhere, regardless. Like there's shitty people that make comments. It's interesting because I did a video, I did a post about something about Landon Norris's girl.

SPEAKER_05 23:40

Sorry, this is women to women, sorry, as well. Like that's what I was saying.

SPEAKER_04 23:43

Like I mean, definitely like women, yeah, like women can talk shit just as much as men. It really just depends. I think as well.

SPEAKER_05 23:50

You guys are more clever though. Yeah, probably.

SPEAKER_04 23:54

Or it's more like Yeah, literally, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:57

All the comments that come from men are just like are just like stupid.

SPEAKER_04 24:01

Stupid. Yeah, the comments that come from men are like stupid.

SPEAKER_01 24:05

Whilst like lazy comments, lazy.

SPEAKER_04 24:07

Whilst and then also the best thing is then you like look at their profile picture and then they're just this like old fat man.

SPEAKER_01 24:13

Yeah, it's always a potato with like 10 photos, like 10 followers or something. Like yeah, 104 followers.

SPEAKER_04 24:19

Yeah, oh just some uh yeah, always a potato man. Um, yeah, like there's definitely there's definitely shitty comments that have come from both sides. I remember once, yeah, I did a video talking about Lando Norris's girlfriend, and it wasn't even a bad thing. It was literally just talking about how they might be broken up, and people just perceive this, and everyone's like, that's mean all these girls, like you're giving mean girl energy. I'm like, what? I'm like the kindest person. I'm generally one of the kindest people out there. It's just yeah, like it's just shitty people. There's shitty people everywhere on this earth, unfortunately. And a lot of them hide behind potato photos, you know?

SPEAKER_05 24:56

Yeah, we're gonna say we've got a clip that. Just don't be a potato person. Don't be a potato personnel. Don't be a potato. Don't be a potato person. Always you potatoes out there. Don't be a potato. Just all right, so we go. Just a just a question, too. So, like you've you've obviously made some really great decisions in terms of following your purpose, um, figuring out that you you didn't want to follow the old life you're in. Um Do you think this whole experience has made you a stronger and a better person as well? A thousand percent. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 25:28

Like a thousand percent. I think that you know, creating content. And granted, like I don't have the biggest following. And I think that's that's the whole thing of you start creating content because I, you know, I do a bit of automotive content, I do a bit of other stuff, like other content, and I think I did like a complete 180 maybe a year and a half ago, where I really think about like, oh, I don't want to put this out there, oh, what are people gonna think? It was like one day to the next where I just went, I don't give a fuck. Because like in the end, what do I care about? I care about like what I think, what the people who love me, like my loved ones think. And I'm like, if my you know, my family and my close friends are supporting me and championing me and going, that's great, keep doing that, then that's all that matters. And like, absolutely, there will be people being like, ew, that's cringe, talking shit. And I don't care. And I think that's definitely made me well, I think I'm more I'm a lot more resilient as well. Because, you know, five years ago, if someone would write a comment like that, you'd be like, like, write a bad comment about you're like, oh my god, like this is the worst thing in the world, especially I'm a serial people pleaser. Whilst I like literally, and I and and and I think as well becoming a parent, you I like that I think that changed me a lot. I don't want to say change me because I I'm very much the same person. I'm just better.

SPEAKER_02 26:53

Just better.

SPEAKER_04 26:54

Just better. Like I'm more like more resilient, I give less of a fuck. And I I think as well, maybe I give people like a bit more of a benefit of the doubt. And I think, yeah. I think, I think as well, like I think doing this, I look at like Peter, he's always been in the basketball world and he coaches female basketball. Yep. And a lot of the girls in the club, like I know them really well, they're a lot younger, and I've always, you know, sp like spoken to them with a lot of wisdom. And I always say, I'm like, just go and try everything and like do the things because having started in a corporate career and then coming out of it and like doing this thing that I love. And something interesting as well, which I have found is that I and it's I'm sorry if I'm like jumping the gun here to maybe another question, but I think that I look back at my younger self, right? And I think high school was fantastic. Primary school, like I always felt a little bit different, you know, like being Latin American, I always felt just a little bit different. And but I always looked at like the people on Getaway, and I always thought, like, I would love to do that. And I always look, I was like, I would love to do that. But you never just and it was kind of like a oh whatever. And then you go through high school, and then you kind of get told you this is what you have to do, or this sort of thing, or oh, I'll study that. And now I've done this like complete full circle where I've ended up in the media space, and I love what I'm doing. And I'm like, why didn't I listen to what I was thinking about as a kid? So I'm almost just like, try and think about what you loved as a kid. And I've heard this so many times bringing about on podcasts and things. Try to think about what you loved as a kid. That's probably your answer because so many people are lost, yeah, they can't figure out what they want to do in life. That's fine. A lot of people don't figure out till they're like in their 50s.

SPEAKER_05 28:39

Yeah, no one really knows what they're doing. No, no, no, no one, we've got nothing. No, just we just raw dog everything. Literally, but you just do it, you just roll dog it. You just do it.

SPEAKER_04 28:48

It's funny, you're like, oh, you're seasoned professionals. I'm like, are we? Like, we all just love talking, it's great.

SPEAKER_01 28:55

That's true, 100%.

SPEAKER_05 28:57

We we we talk a lot about uh mindset, identity, and stuff as well. And I I think we want to really really uh zero in on what you just said then around as a youngster you wanted to be on getaway. Like I firm I firmly believe that um well, we're still young, yeah, by the way. So just being clear. Just being clear, yeah. I think you naturally it's I I would I would it's I would say that's destiny. I think I think when you are young, you've sort of always got a feeling of where you want to end up. And then your 20s is just research where you're doing all stuff, and then all of a sudden, I know it's happened to us too. Like you're sort of like, I would love to do that when you're younger, and then you're all of a sudden you're doing it. Yeah, and you're like, this is wild. Like it's so true. So it's like destiny, isn't it?

SPEAKER_04 29:40

Like it's yeah, I think so. It's funny because I used to always look at people that you know, those people that they like go through high school and they've always known what they want to be. Like, you know, Megan, my friend Megan, she knew from year seven that she wanted to be a surgeon. And so she like became a doctor, you know, went through med school, became a doctor. And I'm like, that is so admirable that you knew what you wanted to do in high school. Like for the people that know that, that's fantastic that you have like this goal to work towards. I think that was something I always struggled with, where I was like, I don't know, I don't know. And it's not until I've ended up in this space. And I'm like, oh, that makes sense. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:14

Do you know it's the um well, what it's gonna say is I think that's important around environment and people you surround yourself with. Because it's like you mentioned at the start where you were sort of going down the corporate route, you really wanted to get into fashion, you're making really good money and stuff like that too. But um, like there's nothing wrong with that, but there's always trade-offs for everything you do. Like, I know for me personally, the more money I make, the more responsibilities, the more time that it actually takes. But time, um, like money's finite. Uh, sorry, yeah, money's money's infinite and time's finite, right? So it's kind of figuring out that trade-off. But um, I was gonna say, yeah, around the environment and putting yourself around those people. Imagine if you never went for those margaritas and hang out with Alan.

SPEAKER_04 30:55

100%.

SPEAKER_01 30:56

Um, if you're still in the fashion industry in that job, like literally that's where you you could have stayed.

SPEAKER_04 31:02

Which which I'm like answering. This is why I always say, just be a yes person. Just say yes to everything, every opportunity. You don't know who you're gonna meet, you don't know what it's gonna lead. I just did the Miss Universe Australia program purely because I was like, I want to do it. I was like, I don't know who I'm gonna meet. I don't know what even if I make one contact that can lead to something.

SPEAKER_05 31:25

Of course.

SPEAKER_04 31:26

Like, yes. And I also think, like, on the topic of like surrounding yourself, I'm also very, very lucky that my husband is a fucking amazing human and is so supportive. And is so, and he's, I mean, he's very much like you guys, like he's a go-getter, he's constantly working on himself and building things and like trying to, you know, do more, do more. Like he works full-time and he has a part-time job and he's doing I want to oh, finding like figuring things out. And he was very much like I don't want to say he gave me the push, but he's he it's almost like having that little person there that just sort of gives little nuggets of you can do this and and you can like the support.

SPEAKER_01 32:09

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Planting those seeds and planting the seeds, knowing that he's there to support you with whatever decision you make. A hundred percent. That's gold.

SPEAKER_04 32:17

Gold, gold. Yeah, it's it's yeah, and it's one of those things where it's like the the five people you surround yourself with, you're most similar to. And you do kind of, I think that's as well as we get older, you start to like you have your friendships that you start to kind of uh weave more into people that are similar to you, if that makes sense. Of course, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 32:36

Well, you naturally find the the environment you're pushing into, you find the right the people. Yeah, like we call I call it day ones and day twos. So your day ones will always be your childhood friends or your family, that you're never gonna leave.

SPEAKER_03 32:49

And they're so important.

SPEAKER_05 32:50

Exactly. They're your tree, their roots, foundations.

SPEAKER_03 32:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 32:54

So day ones, day day ones will always have your back, day twos will get you to where you need to go. So they're the new, they're the ones like the um you're telling us the channel 10 guys, all that sort of stuff that come through. Um let's go. I really want to dive into we'll go back to what you said, but we really want to dive into two, or what you headed where you guys are headed with the potty. But let's really dive into you know, you are a mother as well, um, and you've you've mentioned Peter. I've met him once, he's a gentleman. He's a he's a nice guy. We helped move some couches. Just go into the hit the wall, sorry, bad. Just overfed, like open into the wall. But it's the heaviest, like it was the most like beautiful house, by the way. But it was the most awkward couch.

SPEAKER_03 33:35

Literally, right?

SPEAKER_05 33:36

Me and Josh are cracking up still, because like when we Josh's like, oh, we'll go give him a hand. And we lifted, we lifted it. I was like, this is fucking heavy, bro. Like we're like and we tried to maneuver it into this brand new house.

SPEAKER_02 33:47

And we fucking wall like the front episode, pivot, pivot.

SPEAKER_03 33:52

It was it was the pivot episode.

SPEAKER_04 33:54

Yeah, it was pivot. It was pivoting to the back. No, it was hilarious.

SPEAKER_05 33:56

We missed my back's still cooking.

SPEAKER_04 33:59

I actually mentioned that to Peter the other day when I saw him at the GP, and Peter was like, Oh my god, no, I forgot about that story. Sorry, sorry, Peter.

SPEAKER_05 34:05

No, but let's, you know, like we've before we dive into like where you want to take the potty and stuff, let's go into like you've got another huge role, you know. Being a mother is a massive huge job task.

SPEAKER_04 34:16

Huge, huge, and it's it's crazy as well because I look, I was always very much like oh god, it's it's it's so much to it. But yes, being a mum is a huge job. Being a parent, full stop. Um, and I am pretty much a full-time parent. Like he's not in childcare yet. I work two half days a week. We have like a babysitter who comes. Bless Maddie and Molly from Peter's Basketball. They are the best. Yeah. Um shout out to Maddie and Molly. They are literally super like just the best. Um, you know, having someone to trust your child with is a huge thing. Um, also, like my in-laws and my mum are very helpful. But essentially, I have two half days where I get work done, and then I'm with him the other 90% of the time. Peter also coaches three nights a week. So I'm always with him. And I feel very lucky because I get to do, like, be so present in his life. He's on a wait list at a childcare, though, because he's almost two and he needs to socialize with other kids. Um, so I do feel very lucky that I get to play such a big part in his life. And I am obsessed with him. Like he is truly the greatest human on earth. Um, but it's also really challenging. Like being a parent, it tests you to your limits. Where I think we are navigating life where we're trying to deal with our own shit. And I think as well, like we are a generation where our parents did questionable things and raised us in questionable ways. Um, and you're like, okay, how do I not repeat that behavior? I love you so much, but mum, but like, let me maybe not do that. Um, and they truly test your patience. Like, and and I think as well, it's interesting that you spoke about time. The biggest thing that I have learned since becoming a parent is the value of time. And not just the value of time in the sense where it's terrifying how fast it goes. I think as well, like I'm the younger sibling and the younger cousin. So I never really was around younger kids. So I don't think you, I never really understood how fast kids grow. Like in how until I had Gabriel. Seeing him, like he's coming up to his second birthday. I feel like it's crazy because I it's so funny because we think back to our wedding. I'm like, in this weird way, I feel like he was there, even though he wasn't there. And I feel like I've lived so much life without him. But then you feel like he was always a part of it and always there. Um, it's funny because I always thought I would have girls as well. I grew up in like with my mum and my sister. And then when I found out, I was like, I know it's a boy, I can feel it, I know it's a boy. And now I think about it, I'm like, I'm so a boy mum. Like a thousand percent I'm a boy mum. Like, and it's it is it's very exciting seeing how obsessed he is with cars as well. Cause I'm like, Yes, sick, yes, let's have this shared passion. And like, you know, sometimes like we had the F1 on, and he was looking at the cars, and then this was actually a really cute moment. He was like looking at the Audi car, and I was like, Gabrielle. And I was I did this job with Audi, and I'm like standing in front of the Audi car and I was showing him my phone. I was like, look, like, see the car. And he was like, Oh, oh, and I and and which is really cool. And so, yeah, I think the time thing is kind of circling back the time, it's hard because it yeah, time I it goes so fast and time is so precious, yeah, but you also realize how valuable time is because being in this phase where I'm very much in a growth phase in my period, in my in my work period. Yeah, um, and I think as well because we had paddock and then it really took off after I had Gabriel, yeah, it wasn't something that I kind of like had built, had a baby and went back to. I had my baby and have been building it as my parent. And that has been really challenging, where I'm trying to figure out what exactly I'm doing in my life, career-wise, trying to build that, trying to be a parent as well and figure out time. Like, you know, Peter, like I said, he has a lot of stuff that he's working on. And Gabriel, very much like we're the kind of parents where we've never been super strict with routine. We kind of just like bring him places with us. Like, we've just very much been like, it's good for him, you know, when he was three months old, we went to Europe to like visit my family because we've just wanted to be, everyone works to their own way. The thing is, well, is Peter has basketball too late. So he's like, I wouldn't see him if I was, you know, if he was going to bed at 7:30, I wouldn't see him on like some weekdays. So we've kind of changed, yeah. Our parenting style is a bit more relaxed, but it is hard because we, you know, Peter and I, like, he also sleeps in our bed. Like the fact, like Peter and I sitting down and watching a movie, like I think we did it once, maybe a couple months ago. But we, whenever we have spare time, we're working on our businesses. Like, and and yeah, like and I I think that's it's the whole uh so I always say this to people like don't have parents, uh, don't have kids. I'm like, be selfish, be selfish with your time, watch movies, like do the things. And I think sometimes people talk about time and and oh, I don't have enough time. Oh, sorry, I can't say that to you. I'm like, no, no, no, it's fine. I also thought I was real, like I was also very busy and I was also very tired before I had Gabriel. I think everyone's reality is real to themselves. And like I I hate when parents are like, you can't say you're tired because I'm more tired. It's like, no, everyone's got this honor. It's like literally. I'm like, no, no. I mean, the only thing is like, yeah, I do think like, wow, I had I had so much time that I wasted. But also, like, but also I wasn't building my business because I was working full time. So that is a very long question. But to kind of circle back, being a parent, fantastic, best thing in the world. He is the best.

SPEAKER_02 40:14

Awesome. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_04 40:15

But I also think that I would not be able to do this without a very supportive husband.

SPEAKER_02 40:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 40:20

Because it is, it really does, it is a team job, like a thousand percent. Like during Grand Prix, I'm sorry, I'm talking too much, but during Grand Prix week the whole, like the whole Monday to the next Monday, every single hour is accounted for. And that whole week, I'm, you know, we've got events, we've got, you know, we're on track. There's so much going on. We've got like media commitments, and I feel so blessed and lucky that I get to do that. But there is that guilt as well when I would like leave the house and Gabriel's like, uh, uh, uh, I'm like, oh gosh, I feel awful. But then I'm like, when I get to take him to the Grand Prix, he'll be thankful. And he'll be like, my mom's really cool.

SPEAKER_01 40:59

Yeah, yeah, 100%. At least you're going to build a future too for you guys, not just like exactly. I don't know, leaving them to go to work, maybe. And then it's like a different story.

SPEAKER_04 41:07

Literally, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 41:08

I'm not a parent and I can't relate to that. And I'm not trying to give parental advice or it's not to you and but this is in general. I actually heard something um a while ago, and it was from a parent, but a lot of parents give up their whole entire life and identities just for their children, but the children are only there till they're about 18 years old. Yeah. And once they leave home, they don't actually know who they are. Yeah. So I commend you for going out and building a business and doing what you're doing because it's also you're there and have the time for get Gabrielle.

SPEAKER_04 41:37

Gabrielle, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:38

Gabrielle as well. But then you're also building your career, your future, your um with your partnership too. So commend you well done for doing that.

SPEAKER_04 41:45

Thank you. Yeah, it's very important to maintain your identity. Because I think a lot of people do lose their identity. Whilst I was just like, no, no. And that's why I think having the pod was huge because he was born. I think once he was two weeks or so, it was just very slowly I'd start kind of looking at like a few things on socials, maybe repo something. And I think it was a month and I did my first record. And that's again very lucky because it was something that I could like sit at home, quickly record, and then slowly get back into it. So I think that's as well helped not lose my identity. But I think it's so important. It's so important not to lose your identity.

SPEAKER_05 42:20

Like well, it's it's a good way too. We um especially where you can speak to this the best, where I think you know, it's gonna sound it's gonna sound harsh, but it's like, you know, growing up, you it would all it would always seem like it was a built-in purpose to have kids for women. Yeah, where now we're in the modern era where what Casey just said, once you hit 18, there's so much more opportunity now. So um it's it is it's really important, and I think it's really cool that we are talking about it because you can do so much more now. So it's like the it is as much as is the massive purpose, yeah. You know, it is important to just double down on what you said, the identity and having your own thing, so that you know, little kids, like kids, especially boys. Mum had three boys, we're useless growing up, and like now but now like Josh, Adam, you know, those boys, there were six of us. But our mum is everything to us now. But we can just we can just see to my mum, especially. We were her purpose. Yeah, like so. Now I'm going to Europe soon, and she was just like to No, don't go stay here. No, yeah. It's like I'm 33, but like you know what I mean. Like I know, so I've been telling her I'm going through like the Middle East and shit like that, just joking, which I'm not. But anyway, so anyway, let's just go on to the phone.

SPEAKER_03 43:28

Doesn't your mum still do your washing? Uh no.

SPEAKER_05 43:31

No, I wish she wants to.

SPEAKER_03 43:33

Wouldn't it be nice? It'd be nice.

SPEAKER_05 43:34

It would be nice. But I guess to segue for, you know, if there are like any young ladies or ladies listening, you know, it is important to have, you know, another vision for yourself too.

SPEAKER_04 43:44

Look, if someone, I think as well, each to their own. Yeah. There are some women as well that are like, no, I'm old school. I just want to be at home. Power to you. If that's what you want, go for it. I just think as well nowadays, women are very lucky. Uh, we're all lucky because science is on our side. So you can have a career. And have kids later. I think back in the day that was it was very different. Like nowadays, you can do so many things. But yeah, my one piece of advice is to not lose yourself. Just have something on the side. Try and have something. It doesn't have to be like a you know, like a side hustle. Even if it's like I go and do art classes for a week. I don't know, like once a week. Something. Yeah. Something. But the whole point of that is having a partner that supports you. So you can do that. That's a great thing. Like it's it's just it's this having a partnership that where you know you help each other do your things, then it's the best thing.

SPEAKER_05 44:36

And double down on that too. Sorry. I like, I think it's important because like we're obviously we're gonna go, we don't want to go off track with this, but no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I think it's important from your point of view because even even the game of relationships has changed if you're not in one, where what you said is so important. It's not about what can I get from this person, which is what the modern dating market is like. Oh, does he have the list, or does she have this, or does she where it's like you just now the keyword? It's like relationships are fucking hard. So find someone that is supportive.

SPEAKER_03 45:07

Thousand percent.

SPEAKER_05 45:08

You know what I mean? Instead of having this huge list of like just someone who's good, kind, supportive. Literally, a team.

SPEAKER_04 45:14

And you mold each other, yeah. Like, granted, like yeah, you mold in, like you mold each other and figure out what works and just work with each other.

SPEAKER_05 45:23

Perfect. Yeah, nice man. Hey, look, we've just covered some fucking some top sh top tier stuff. All right, top tier. Let's go, let's let's switch switch gears, pun intended.

SPEAKER_04 45:34

Switch lanes. Oh, switch lanes even better.

SPEAKER_05 45:37

So the way like the way first of all, for what you've your and your podcast partner have really built, and I think we're off camera, we're talking a bit different where you know there's there's businesses, there's influences, there's all this sort of stuff. I would perceive yours as a really strong business because you are trying to acquire partnerships, which I think is very is way harder because like I've done some through mine, and and you know, I'm not a fucking influencer. Don't like don't ever call me that shit. Yeah, I I get offended by that.

SPEAKER_03 46:07

I know, I know. It's like yeah.

SPEAKER_05 46:10

Where I think you're in the why don't you talk us through like your building paddock and you're trying to to to build contracts or build partnerships and stuff? Like, where are you guys headed? What's the goal?

SPEAKER_04 46:21

Oh, it's it's so interesting because we we are like we want to have a media empire. Um but but that's like the big goal, yeah. But if we kind of bring it down, look, there's so many ways that it can go. It's like you either sign with a network or something, but then you're tied to a network. Or like it's if we say short-term goal, I guess it's more like, you know, listenership. I think as well with our space, it's a very niche audience, the F1 audience. Granted, it's very niche, but it's very, we have like a huge community that we've built and a very tight-knit community. Um, so I think it's just building, getting more corporate sponsors on. That's probably like a shorter term goal. Like definitely getting more corporate sponsors that cemented into the podcast, like bigger guests as well. There's so many, like especially so many women in the F1 world that we would love to speak to, so many big voices. Um, I mean, I have like a bucket list person, which is like the most random person, but I mean, I have a few, but like Bernie Collins, she's a aerodynamicist in F1. Wow. Um, sorry, a racing, she was an aerodynamicist, racing engineer, and she is incredible. Like, I heard her speak at an event over the Grand Prix. It was funny because Lando was at that event and everyone was just like didn't give a shit about Bernie. And they're like, Bernie Collins. I was like, what Bernie Collins. Like, would love to get someone like Bernie Collins on or Susie Wolf, Toto Wolf's wife. Oh, yeah, maybe that's it.

SPEAKER_02 47:54

Yeah, she's she's a boss.

SPEAKER_04 47:57

Um, those are probably like some goals, like getting big, big guests on, but then just like growing, like big getting, yeah, bigger, like you know, we've got a big international audience, get a bigger international audience, and just like kind of cementing ourselves with bigger corporate sponsors. Because yeah, the sponsor thing is huge. It is very tricky. Like we've been pretty lucky with some of the sponsors that we've had. Um but yeah, it's it is challenging, like getting big names to like invest in you and trust in you because we know that what we can provide is fantastic work. And we like you said, you know, we've got the podcast side, but we do also do like the social side, creating social clips for brands. I think something that we can do as well is like we do create really good content, yeah, both in the studio and over social media. Um so yeah, I mean, to kind of circle back and answer big goal, media empire, yeah, small goal it's yeah, either network, but maybe network, we'll see, and corporate sponsors. Awesome.

SPEAKER_01 49:07

Yeah. You gotta have the big goals though, right? If you don't have the big goals, you don't really know the direction that you're trying to head. Yeah. Um, but then it's just breaking those the big goal down and breaking it down into like bite-sized pieces, and just slowly building on that and expanding and scale.

SPEAKER_03 49:20

Yeah, 100%.

SPEAKER_05 49:22

And it's um it's it's really cool too, because it's always exciting, like it gets it gets us excited too. Like you're obviously well, you're an entrepreneur, you're an entrepreneur, so it's like the beauty, the beauty is like it's just the it's the whole process of it, which you know you can touch to as well. Of it's just the excitement. Yeah, like the cash flow will come, you know, it's trajectory position where it's like your trajectory, you guys are on a massive upward trend, which is like your position is naturally going to change. Yeah. And I think it's what we what I've really noticed with you, um, Patty or Shusha, Patricia, um is like you're in that really exciting phase where I think a lot of people that are in a business, you're so focused on the outcome that you're not enjoying the process. Yes. So like 100%. And and and I think it's really, it's really good. That's it's good to really um just enjoy where you are.

SPEAKER_03 50:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 50:11

You know, because it's it's that building point's the exciting part. And you guys are doing some really cool stuff. We are like some we are. Is there also a plan? Like, how many races, how many races do you guys get to you? I saw you oh, I saw you at the F1. Thank you for interviewing me before I 20 beers, by the way. You got to be early.

SPEAKER_04 50:29

You and everyone, like, let's go, Oscar. And then like 20 minutes later.

SPEAKER_05 50:32

Gone. Yeah, poor Oscar. So with you, yeah, Oscar. That's another story. Just to give my mum a shout at it again, too. She froths F1.

SPEAKER_04 50:42

So she has to listen.

SPEAKER_05 50:44

I'll get her to I'll get it on it. She knows everything. She stays up every night, watches it. Those tickets where I saw you were for her, but she was camping.

SPEAKER_03 50:51

Oh, that's right. You said that.

SPEAKER_05 50:52

Yes, I couldn't get her down. Yeah, you have to bring it up. I still haven't heard the end of it. Like I gave her, I gave her enough time. I was like, look, Mum, are you gonna come back down?

SPEAKER_04 50:59

Just yeah, give her the date for next year's GP and be like, just keep this weekend free.

SPEAKER_05 51:03

Keep it free.

SPEAKER_04 51:04

The worst is, I mean, this has never happened to me, but when people decide to plan a wedding over GP weekend, it's like, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_05 51:09

Yeah, you're not done. You're not done. Sorry. Sorry, we've got to watch for our experience. So with the with the obviously the travel, how many races like because is it a goal to get to to be able to get to all the races, like and travel around, or yeah, that'd be hard?

SPEAKER_04 51:24

There's definitely look, there's definitely a goal to get to more races. Um, and ideally, yeah, kind of be on ground. Yep. I think get to get to every race, it's a lot. Like, you know, 22 races in the season. Every season is different. At the moment, it's 22 races this season. Um, we'll our plan is to go to Singapore this year.

SPEAKER_05 51:42

Well, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 51:43

Um, we were actually supposed to be going to Miami GP next week, but that fell through. It was a very exciting opportunity. Um, but that they decided not to put their efforts into that. I think just with everything happening in the world at the moment. So I think they're sort of focusing on Las Vegas and Austin, which hopefully we will be there.

SPEAKER_02 52:03

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 52:04

Um yeah, and then last year we were also almost at Abu Dhabi Grand Prix, didn't happen. We actually got asked to speak at Silverstone GP 2024. Um, but I just had Gabriel, he was like four weeks old. Yeah. Um, so Elle went, which was amazing. So she kind of like represented us.

SPEAKER_02 52:24

Nice.

SPEAKER_04 52:25

That year we got asked to go to Monaco Grand Prix and like on the topic of supportive partners. That would have been like a week before my due date. And Peter was like, he's like, you why don't you just go? He's like, we can we can speak to Mark, who was my obstetrician. You know, maybe you can have the baby early. And he's like, just go, like you can go for five days. I was like, Peter, I love you and your support, but that's not happening. Like, I was like, I'm not going to Monaco Grand Prix. Also because we had to pay, and I was like, this just no, no, no, no. And like knowing what I know, I would never leave my baby. I was like, no, Peter. Um, but yeah, so I think definitely like being a more Grand Prix, it is um, look, it's it's a tricky space as well, because it's very rare that brands pay for you to get there. And so it's like having that cash flow to get you there. Um, a lot of brands are like keen to work. Like we've had a lot of brands reach it out to us during different Grand P's being like, you know, come, but it's a matter of getting there and also like making a good financial decision. Like a lot of our money that we earn, we like, you know, like a lot of businesses, we don't really pay ourselves. We kind of let it sit in the account and we put it towards expenses and for things. So that's like part of the reason why we're like definitely lock in Singapore this year. Um, but yeah, I think to circle back, great to get to more international GPs in an ideal world, it would be so challenging to go to every single international one just because it's there's too many on the calendar in a year. I think even like the teams, like people that work for the teams, people that work for the broadcasters, they struggle. Um, it's a lot. And especially for us on this side of the world, like if you're in Europe, it's a lot easier.

SPEAKER_05 54:02

Yeah, we're cooked from here.

SPEAKER_04 54:03

We're cooked. We're literally cooked. And like essentially it's like Japan, China, they've already happened, Singapore, and then the Middle Eastern races, which aren't really happening. Then everything else is like just yeah, just hectic. So like Miami, the opportunity with Miami, it was gonna be like an in and out. We were there for the weekend and fly straight home. And you were like, uh, jet lag. But you just make it work.

SPEAKER_05 54:28

Yeah, 100%. And well, thank you for that. Your your your answers are great, by the way. It's awesome. So you're covering a lot of ground, which is great. Um, I think we if we if we go back to like having a crack and what you just said then, I think it's very important to in business or anything you're starting out for people, it's like 100% have a crack, but understand you need to understand the pressure and the pressure and what comes with it, and the the expectation and opportunity, and understanding where to pull the trigger and where not to, because you just said it before as well, you guys are building out, spending a lot of time, you've got all these great opportunities coming, but you're sacrificing too. So yeah, it's there's so many elements to it. Yeah, and and you know, when I've been in your position too, you get like a call up from another country, and you're like, your eyes light up, and then you're like, you look at the reality of like when it is your business, and you're like at the start, you're like, Well, I'm actually paying for myself to do all of this sort of stuff. So it's the risk-reward ratio, too, where it's like, yeah, this does look like a great opportunity, but is it is the ROI huge on it? 100%, which is a big factor you would take in.

SPEAKER_04 55:32

100%. Yeah, it's like, okay, do we put that like go just go to an international race or do we invest in ads?

SPEAKER_05 55:39

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_04 55:40

Okay, like what's gonna be better, you know?

SPEAKER_05 55:42

What does it equate to?

SPEAKER_04 55:43

Is it what does it equate to? Exactly. And yeah, it's like what you said, there's an opportunity cost for everything. Yeah, like even if I sit down and watch TV for an hour, or I could be working. Granted, it is important to rest, absolutely, and I love my sleep. But there's an opportunity cost. It's like if I have a spare hour at night and I watch TV, I could also be doing some work then.

SPEAKER_05 56:06

Yeah, don't worry about that as well. That's just music pumping. And and obviously, we're well, we're both podcasters, all of us. All of us podcasters, yeah. What's the um and how have you like it's we we talked about it off camera about people? Casey's it's pretty funny too. Casey spoke about it before you came in, and it's like people like, oh, it'd be pretty cool to do a podcast. Like you're just sitting there talking. I'm like, brother.

SPEAKER_04 56:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 56:30

Like, how does that that would sting the soul hearing that as well? Like, yeah, and you're 130, 140 Epson.

SPEAKER_04 56:37

Yeah, about that, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 56:38

Which is huge. That's huge.

SPEAKER_04 56:40

Yeah, it's good. Yeah, three seasons are into our third season now.

SPEAKER_05 56:43

Yeah, amazing, yeah. And it's like, well, we know the fucking work. The work with the grind. So it's like, what advice do you have for people that want to just start a podcast?

SPEAKER_04 56:56

Look, I think like I'm not saying don't do it because there's definitely a niche. Every uh it depends what it is.

SPEAKER_02 57:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 57:02

Have a think, maybe do your research and see is there a gap in the market? Like, will I actually and also can I provide insight? It's not just about talking. Like, are you actually gonna provide some knowledge for people? Like, find your pocket of people, are you gonna provide some value? Because what's the point? Like, I think unless you're a crazy influencer with huge following, yeah, which a lot of them do end up starting podcasts because they have a following. So people just naturally want to listen to them. If you're not providing anything, why is someone gonna follow you? So I think like if you really want to do it, do it. But it's a lot of work. Yeah like it's a lot of work. There's a lot of hours spent editing. You know, we, for example, record on a Monday. I do all the editing like for YouTube and for audio. And a lot of the time, like I've sat there until two o'clock in the morning, finishing editing because I have to get it, because I want to get it out by Tuesday. And so it's like it has to be done. And like again, with the whole parenting thing, it's like I have a few hours on Monday. I like try and get as much work as I can in that block. I'm also trying to like build on like my automotive content creation and it's like trying to get a bit of work done and then I'll put Gabriel to bed. I actually don't get to sit down until about 10 o'clock, and then it's like, okay, now I need to edit. So it's a lot of work. Yeah. Editing, um, you know, you want to create social clips and you want to make sure it's a good job. Like you want to put something out there at the same time. Another piece of advice though is like, which is a big one sometimes. And I think this is like with podcasting and with content creation that people get a bit stuck on like, uh, is it good enough? Is it is it like, oh, like too, just put it out. Like what I was saying our last episode, we had this audio issue. There was this like in the background, and I've separated audio. Honestly, it's not great. Like the audio is actually trash in that episode. But I was but because like with the two races, the two Middle Eastern races that we're on at the moment over the um April, we're cancelled and we've had this like two-week break. And I'm like, I don't really want to not put something out. And what we spoke about was interesting. So I was like, just put it like I'll put it out. So it's a lot of work. If you want to start a podcast, you can do it.

SPEAKER_05 59:05

But oh no, prepare. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 59:08

Prepare to get frustrated. Yes. Like editing audio. Oh I remember the first ones as well. The amount of cuts I had. Like chop, chop, chop, chop, chop, chop, chop, chop, chop, chop, chop, chop, chop, chop, chop, chop, chop. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 59:21

Yeah, that's Casey the butt.

SPEAKER_01 59:23

That's Casey the poor biker.

SPEAKER_04 59:26

That's how you start.

SPEAKER_01 59:26

That's how you start. And then you've obviously got better at it now, so it's a lot faster, right? A lot faster. Same with me. I do all the production side of it for us. At the start was a freaking nightmare. I spent hours and hours and hours just doing one episode.

SPEAKER_03 59:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 59:38

And now I've sort of created systems and built stuff that make it a lot better. Easy, I don't like it again. It's the fact of just taking action and doing, and then you become better through that process.

SPEAKER_04 59:47

Literally. So true. But yeah, I don't think people realize how intense post-production is. Like you can pay people to edit it for you and do it all for you and make it it.

SPEAKER_05 59:58

Well just cash for it. Because money is the reality of what you said, isn't it? It's just that's like that's the that's the one key point is like what you just said. It's like the it's it's the the effort and the time without the compensation. Being willing to being willing to build something, not knowing if it's even going to work, is the true test of courage and purpose. Where it's like you're building something from scratch, you're entering an arena you've never been in. You're not even actually getting like compensated at the start at all. And you don't even know if you will.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:29

No.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:29

I think Joe Rogan, I think you said Joe Rogan, Chris Williamson, a few other guys. I think Chris Williamson, he didn't really, I think a thousand episodes before he started to really get kick off, which is wild. Just having that mindset as well, which you guys have as well, is we might not actually kick off till like thousands of episodes. Yeah, just to keep going.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:50

I think they say most podcasts drop off after oh, I can't remember the start, but it's something like there's like a year and then there's three years and they drop off. So just keep pushing and grinding and going. Because yeah, I I mean we were paying the studio. So initially we were just like paying to do it, and then you're you're paying to do it, and then you're like essentially just working for free.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:12

Like exactly like, yeah, working for free.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:14

And that's the difference of a, I guess, uh an entrepreneur mindset, right? It's I mean, you've got to use a lot more units of effort before you get any results. Yes. Um, whereas like in a job, you work for a week, you get paid for the week. You work for the week, paid for the week. But then when you're doing a podcast or content or whatever it is, building a business, you've got to put all this effort in with no returns. Literally. But you only fail when you quit.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:37

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:38

Unless you quit, you just keep going, you're just successful. And again, success is also um subjective, right? Like what is a successful podcast to you? Could be different to us, and could be different to you listening. So it's yeah, understanding your metrics on what success is for you.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:54

Thousand percent.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:55

All right, well, perfect.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:58

We are going to dive into our little segment at the end. Okay. Uh, I'll get Casey to take over here. Yes.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:05

I'm excited. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:06

Just five.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:07

I could talk for like seven hours in case you guys. Oh, this has been great. This has been easy.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:11

I know. Once we get to dive at CEO level, we might start doing four more episodes.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:16

Yeah. But uh our current production setup too can only handle about an hour.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:20

So yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:21

Um setup. Yeah, yeah. So that's look, we've covered a lot. It's been we've gone through a lot. You've mentioned a lot of great um great outlooks on life as well. And I hopefully that's shared a lot of value to our community listening and also your community listening as well.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:38

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:38

So thank you so much. Thank you. Um at the end of our episodes, we do a thing called Fire Five. Oh, okay. Five quick questions. So just fire whatever comes into your head. Okay. I'll ask you a question, give us the answer, and then we'll um see what pops into your your brain straight away. Okay. So question one is what's your favorite book or podcast?

SPEAKER_04 1:03:02

Oh gosh. Okay. Um go favorite book. Probably The Alchemist by Paolo Coelho. It's like a classic. Um yeah, probably fake book. And then podcast, oh, it depends on the mood. Because I actually love Driver CEO. But then I also love listening to like Life Uncut, which is Peter always says this is trash, but it's just a bit more like nothing vibes. Okay. Driver CEO, more just yeah. Oh, Emma Green, she's got really good stuff as well. Yeah. Nice. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:33

Love it. One daily non-negotiable.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:37

Movement. Like I struggle to get in. I used to love going to the gym like six times a week, bang, bang, bang. And I really struggle with that now because of time. But even if I just get to walk, yeah. Like walking, at least like I get to like I'm having a toddler, boy, you're also very active, thank God. So like very active. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:57

Favorite Grand Prix racetrack.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:59

Oh, this is tricky. Okay. Um, I can't say one. I'm so sorry. But I think that circuit-wise, I think like Suzuka is a an incredible circuit. It's like the most, and a lot of drivers that I interview say it's their favorite circuit as well. It's like the most similar to a um like a go-karting track.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:19

Um, I think look, I think that like Monaco is iconic. But then I think as well, but then I think as well, like Monza is also because it's like a super fast track and it's like Ferrari. But then I I genuinely just love Melbourne Grand Prix because it's like that home race, that feeling of like being home race, and it's like the first typically first race of the season. So sorry, that wasn't one.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:49

Can we add can we add one in there? Yeah, favorite driver.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:53

Like past or present. Past probably at and center. Um present. Okay, I'm not gonna say one. I'm sorry. Like I love Lewis Hamilton because he is so talented. Yeah, but then I also think that Max Verstappen is a freak of nature of our time. And I'm sorry, I have I also love Charles Leclerc. I just think I think that there's like a few of his generation where I've always said like he could easily be a world champion. The problem is he just haven't hasn't had the car. Thanks a lot, Ferrari. Um, I don't know if he will ever be a world champion, but then I also do think in terms of skill set, I've said this from the day dot that Oscar Piastri is literally he has Max Verstappen energy. And I think like to be as successful as Max, you need to have a very similar mindset to him. I think like Lando Norris proved la like he proved last year that you can still have fun and become a world champion, but I don't think he'll be a multi-world champion.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:03

So yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:06

Strong answer. Okay. Biggest limiting belief you've overcome.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:14

Probably having fear in doing something. Like just being too scared to do something and not saying yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:21

Yeah. Nice. And then one piece of advice for our listeners to push beyond limits.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:26

Say yes to everything. I know I said this before, but it's my biggest piece of advice. Say yes to like within reason. Like don't do crystal math.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:35

But like you know like don't do it advice right there. Right?

SPEAKER_04 1:06:40

Like maybe don't do that. But like literally say yes to everything, every opportunity like when you were like come on the podcast, absolutely I'm going to come on the podcast. Like do all the things because again you don't know who you're going to meet. You don't know what you're going to get out of it. Even if you do something and you're like that was terrible you learn from it. So it's like even if you do something and it's shit, you learn from it. Like I always say I have zero regrets in life. The only thing I regret is there was one concert that I didn't go to because you know when you like because I was but I like I don't regret anything because everything that I've done I've learned from awesome.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:16

It's all a character building exercise. Well said nice well that was a great five six actually first time let's go.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:24

Yay well first for for all of our listeners we hope you've we know you're going to take away a lot of nuggets really really try and try and take home some some lessons around giving stuff a crack having a go patricia thank you you've been an amazing guest thank you we can't wait to see what you and um what you do in the future we know you're going to be extremely we're already well you're already successful so we know you're going to be even more successful.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:50

And where can our listeners find you paddock43 the podcast is my podcast. Patricia Valeri Melior is my Instagram. Perfect. I think my TikTok is the same but I'm not massive on TikTok. Yeah. Awesome. That's that's kind of it and um yeah it's a long name to spell sorry.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:12

So we'll we'll put it on the case Casey with the link on the screen. Ding ding ding Casey's the master of that stuff. And uh for you for those of you who are listening and you are unsubscribed hit that subscribe button please so we can bring on some more amazing guests like we've just had and we can keep adding value you know come find you otherwise yeah we we can see you. We know your IP address. And uh we're going to do a little bit of so what we do when we close out we're we're trying to get the bit of NO so bit no so right at the end we need you to do a big let's go when I uh I'll say no excuses, no limits and then we all go let's go. Big hearty let's go.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:54

How do you feel about that? Okay I don't want to say let's fucking go but no change it up and go this time.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:00

Alright ready no excuses no limits let's let's that was great sorry literally first face first a piece of the fear you my only five I get my big fan and I'm gonna be a better yeah then I'm made way better in the fear for fear listening with my feet with a bit of free real