BAP Talk Podcast

My Fav Person Fine Shyt Discuss being EMS, Single Parenthood, And Self-Respect

BAP Season 1 Episode 7

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You’ll feel the shift the moment Madison starts talking about run reviews. We trade the TV version of EMS for the real thing: CPR that doesn’t always land, pediatric calls that demand calm, and the quiet pride of learning from each run so the next patient gets a little more skill and a lot more clarity. Between sips and side jokes, we get a rare look at how a first responder stays human under pressure—and how that same focus shapes life outside the ambulance.

What follows is part survival guide, part love letter to boundaries. Madison lays out why cutting people off wasn’t cruelty but maintenance, how “fool me twice” became a policy, and why money without a payback plan erodes trust. We dig into choosing guests with purpose, not headlines, and keeping the podcast free of street gossip. The thread is consistency: do the work, protect your peace, and let your circle be small enough to fit the people who actually show up.

We also get personal about partnership and independence. Maggie’s type is hardworking and creative—the kind of person who can fix what breaks and teach what matters. We explore what it means to carry your own weight, love without losing yourself, and raise a kid who can build a rubber-band boat and a better life. There’s laughter about jerk chicken and legendary cheesecake, but the heartbeat is practical hope: set standards, learn skills, and choose presence over performative plans.

If you’re craving a conversation that leaves you clearer about boundaries, braver about your goals, and kinder to your future self, press play now. Subscribe, share this with a friend who needs stronger lines around their peace, and drop a review to tell us your rule for second chances.

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Welcome And Guest Intro

SPEAKER_04

I'm trying to pay smell like onions. What's that now? I've been taking brown bags like I wanted to bag not in front.

SPEAKER_07

What's going on everybody? I'm Bab Teese, host of Bab Talk Podcast. Why smoke, sip, drink, and talk. I added another one because I'm sipping right now. But real talk though. Hey, y'all won't believe who I got in the house for you. She's the fan favorite. And real talk. She's my favorite. Real, for real. I wouldn't say that in public if it wasn't true. Call her fan shit. She's a first responder. She's a single parent. And she's doing her thing. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01

I gotta go.

Life As A First Responder

SPEAKER_07

But yeah, though, I mean that though. Like you is my favorite. For real, for real. What was going on with you though, Maggie?

SPEAKER_03

Not a whole lot. I mean a lot, but mostly work. Yeah. You know that. Just doing it. I I don't know what else to say but it's work.

SPEAKER_02

Right.

SPEAKER_03

It is not only like my my nine to five job, which I love doing because it gives me a break from being on the ambulance, but I had to cut back a little bit on it.

SPEAKER_02

Right.

SPEAKER_03

Just because otherwise, you know, I'm gonna end up missing something.

SPEAKER_07

Right. I feel that. I feel that.

SPEAKER_03

Like school-wise.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

We just sold pies.

SPEAKER_07

Oh, I'm sorry. I gave you a donation.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, you're good.

SPEAKER_07

Hey, look, I just looked on that moment.

SPEAKER_03

No, because I'm actually thankful because I don't know how the hell I'm gonna fit all these freaking pies in my freezer. You know, some I'm gonna have to use, I'm gonna have I know a deep freezer that I can use, but it has like beer and stuff in there.

SPEAKER_07

I don't want none of that. You can put my sweets in there. No, then give me and rock. Knock it off. But um no, besides the working and the things you're doing, what have you been doing though? I mean, I know you was the thing for um your daughter, like the uh the food thing. I mean, I mean the uh the sweet thing, the pies and everything. I'm mad I ain't getting my pie.

SPEAKER_03

Lacey, she didn't even know that she was selling pies. Really?

SPEAKER_07

Yes, because that's crazy.

SPEAKER_03

I know my mom had asked me like, what are you doing, you know, selling for school? Are you selling pies?

SPEAKER_07

Right. What she didn't know I'm selling pies. Right, right, right. Type shit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, they uh so between that and then it's hunting season, so I just got a bow, like my Christmas gift myself.

SPEAKER_02

Right.

SPEAKER_03

So in my spare time, like on the weekend, that I'll be in my EMS stuff, but I'll be in the backyard putting my site on my bow.

SPEAKER_07

So what do EMS stand for?

SPEAKER_03

Emergency medical services. Okay. That could be yeah, like anything in EMS would be like uh firefighters, they're a part of EMS.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

The ambulance, that's part of EMS, um, flight, life link. Anything with that, it's emergency medical services.

SPEAKER_07

See, that's what I'm talking about. You know when she owns something, you know what I'm saying? She's talking about something I don't know nothing about.

SPEAKER_03

I just told you to raise your arms to stop coughing.

SPEAKER_07

I'm a choking. That's crazy. It worked, didn't it? Yeah, it worked, it worked. See, I can't be hitting the blunt that hard though. I don't really, I'm sorry. So as far as that eating a mess, how much how much time did it take up for you? I mean, is it a stressful job?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I well, I had to cut back, so I'm just doing like one weekend a month and then a couple of days throughout the week. So like Monday, Thursday, those are my main days.

SPEAKER_07

Okay.

Run Reviews: Wins And Misses

SPEAKER_03

And then um special events I try to help out for because it it not only um you know I get paid for it, right? But I also get to be a part of the community that I that I really like. So I get to meet more people.

SPEAKER_07

I feel you. I mean, it's not like a good job. I mean stressful but good, you know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, we just had a debriefing today about like a just a couple of calls. We like to go through them. It's called the run review. So each run that we go over, it has the chance to be in the run review. Like it's something that we could do better or like more efficient. And so we had that today, and the topics were sorry, I don't mean the laugh, but it's just different. It's CPR that ended up in like you know, we couldn't say we didn't get Ross. So CPR, and then we had a seasoned toddler, right? And then we had a transfer that they had paged out BLS instead of ALS, and then that was it.

SPEAKER_07

Okay, that's not tough. Um I like that.

SPEAKER_03

So it goes from like extremes to this bit of thing as well.

SPEAKER_07

Okay, so um I like being there anyway.

SPEAKER_02

That was funny.

SPEAKER_07

Hey, hey, I feel you though. I feel that's kind of no something honestly. When I was in school, they asked me what I want to be. Now you know you can be a firefighter, policeman.

SPEAKER_03

But you can be like in like an EMT as a firefighter, right? So the people are now doing both.

SPEAKER_07

No, I can't do both. I mean, I'm not even trying to be a cop. I don't mess with the police. And then being a firefighter, I'm not going to burning building.

unknown

No, it's do they're not.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah. I'm not going no burning. Hell no. Earn cut like that. Like for real. But uh other than that, though, like what you be doing though. I mean, like, besides you um being a parent, you know, and then I know that's your first and foremost goal, and that's something that right you didn't accomplish. I've been knowing you for quite a while, and you came a long way. So, like, so like what pushed you to literally accomplish a goal that you already didn't accomplish?

SPEAKER_03

I wanted I wanted what's best for my daughter. And me staying in the place that I was at was not the best for her. Okay. So she was my biggest motivator to try and like do things on my own, get shit done. And I did that. I ended up having to cut a lot of people off, but it gave me my peace.

SPEAKER_07

Okay. Peace of everything.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

You know, because if you let them like ruin your peace, they ruin your life.

SPEAKER_03

It was it was it was ruining my social life.

SPEAKER_07

Right.

SPEAKER_03

It was ruining like mental health, it was for sure ruining me financially.

SPEAKER_07

Right. Wow, right, okay. See, I can't laugh because you know what I did before. I'm saying I helped the motherfucker out that I don't even talk to no more, but at the same time, though, it is what it is, though. But on everything I love, if the boat going down and we on the same boat, and I got two life jackets, I'm wearing both of them motherfuckers on everything I love. It is what it is. Ain't no consequence behind that. But back to you, fine shit. Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I had questions. Okay, uh you told me to get like a whole interview set up so I'm I came for true.

SPEAKER_07

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_03

And some of this, you know, like we we did already kind of talk about but like what made you think I think we did it outside of the whole podcast where we talk about it. Like, what made you think of the title of your podcast? You like to smoke.

SPEAKER_07

True.

SPEAKER_03

And I know you like to talk.

SPEAKER_07

I don't like to talk. Wow, you here, man. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_03

And then with chilling, I can know you do that yourself too.

SPEAKER_07

Right.

SPEAKER_03

Um, like what I know you've been thinking of like doing a podcast for a while too. But what made you finally do it?

Why The Podcast Exists

SPEAKER_07

Honestly, when I got hurt at work, and they gave me it turned a day, it turned from days to weeks, and maybe a month or two. So during that time, I'm sitting here on a computer, I'm like, podcast it for sale. And I'm like, I know I'm jackballing money by helping other people, so I can invest that on me and do that. So I start off buying the ordinary, just a mic and a one-sound bar and other things. So then I found myself buying more mics, more headphones, more likes. No, no, that's a TikTok shop over there, man, in the corner. That motherfucker broke for all this here. No, I don't do now. This legit here. You know what I'm saying? But that's why I started it. And then I've been wanting to do it for some years. Because you're right, I do like to talk, but I like to talk giving advice. And that's why I like my podcast to be a dialogue, because I can help other people at the same way they can help me. You feel me?

SPEAKER_03

Well, there's more ways, more ways than one to in a cast. True. So whatever worked for them might not work for you.

SPEAKER_07

Exactly. You be paying attention, I see. You pay attention.

SPEAKER_03

Sometimes.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

It depends on if I hear you or not.

SPEAKER_07

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

So how do you come up with the people that you want to interview?

SPEAKER_07

The people that want to interview. I can talk about the streets myself because I done been there and done that. But at the same time, though, I want people to be able to motivate other people. I want people on my podcast that have something going for them. I want people on my podcast that can help me, can help you, and help somebody else out there. I want them to have some knowledge. So that's that's the type of people I look for. Because believe me, the whole Chicago has been asking to get on here. I ain't got time to be talking about who got shot. I ain't got time to be talking about this. If it ain't uh a positivity right now, I don't want to really hear about it. If you know it's on my page, now I talk some trash sometimes, but it it it be for views.

SPEAKER_02

Valid.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, valid trash. Because I take this, I take bath, I take bath talk seriously. No.

SPEAKER_03

Well, and it's not like I guess from my in my standard or like my point, where you had said, you know, like I want you to come do the interview. I'm like, I don't even know what I'm gonna talk about.

SPEAKER_02

Right.

SPEAKER_03

But looking back at where I was at rock bottom, you know, like it just being, you know, uh a new mom and then completely single, where I had I did everything myself. I did not have help there with anyone. I mean, like his her grandma had taken her, you know, for like a couple hours just so I could work one of my three jobs. Three, but yeah, I had three jobs while he had none. And you know, okay sitting.

Guests With Purpose, Not Drama

SPEAKER_07

Okay. I mean, ever since I been knowing you, real talk, I'm talking about ever since I met you at Rappers, you've been the type of person that I seen that wants better. You know what I'm saying? I've been knowing you for a while. I known you when that I was telling you earlier, like when that happened. There's things I see, I don't say nothing. And then when I seen you again, I'm like, damn, that's what I think it is. Then I heard, and all I kept saying is, hey, what I said, you deserve better. Did I tell you that?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah. And then I saw you carry yourself. So I'm not gonna show you coat none. And then I'm not gonna lie to you. Kept it real. That's why I said I like where you I like where you're going right now, because like you say, you that rock bottom, I seen that. You in the middle, I seen that, and you climb the mountain, and you doing that damn good. For real, for real.

SPEAKER_03

So like even, you know, with stuff like that, just hearing it come from somebody else, that's kind of what you're getting at. Like, okay, I'm not alone in this situation.

SPEAKER_07

Exactly.

SPEAKER_03

That's what I had kind of that's what I like to do. You know, I can tell you my situation and what I did so that you feel like you're not alone, and maybe like these things can help you out so that you can get out of it too.

SPEAKER_02

Right.

SPEAKER_03

Which I had I think put my neck out so many times where I felt like, okay, I've I've had enough, I can't do it anymore with people, like I'm just cutting everybody off. And I need I need to have a reset.

SPEAKER_02

Right.

SPEAKER_03

So you have the people that are you know, like on the bottom and will stay on the bottom because they're not willing to help themselves.

SPEAKER_07

True.

SPEAKER_03

And then you try to help them too, and you get burned. But see, so that throws me into my next question. So, like, how do you feel? I'm giving people second chances.

SPEAKER_07

Oh, I mean, I don't believe in giving second chances because if I gave the second chance, no, no, you're right, you're right. Hold on.

SPEAKER_03

Let me show the third, I'm done.

SPEAKER_07

Let me change that.

SPEAKER_03

The three strikes, you're out.

SPEAKER_07

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. You know what I'm saying? So you're right. I have gave some second chances. I would tell you about the one that I had did a little while ago who I helped out. It would never happen again. Ain't no second chances because if you see a person who has a good heart who has the outlook of you to be in better, and then you have to use that motherfucker. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03

You don't do this without redemption. Like, can you redeem what? Like, no, not on you.

SPEAKER_07

Oh, I'm gonna say that's on them.

SPEAKER_03

On the other person, right? On the other person. So, like, if if you do the masolid, right? Like, let's say we give you give somebody like a thousand bucks, two thousand bucks, whatever. And they end up like not wanting to pay you back. They will not even just not wanting to, they just completely will ghost you, or they like hope that you just forget about it, and then we start hanging out and doing whatever, and like maybe if I just distract you, it'll help you forget about it.

SPEAKER_07

And you say a thousand or two thousand dollars.

SPEAKER_01

That's a lot of money.

SPEAKER_07

You cannot forget about that. No, I don't care what let me tell you something, and I mean I don't say this the best way I can. If I owe, if I give a person, now I have before, give a person a thousand dollars. You but I mean, and I see you, and you're not trying to pay me. Now, do it's gonna be war. But far as like a female, we gotta come up with a payment plan. I can't give you that much money and then let you walk in my face like that. That's wrong. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03

Like, I think that's just people taking advantage.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, man. I don't honestly, I done got kind of cold hearted right now, and then it it needed to be because at the same time, people don't care. You understand what I'm saying? They don't care about themselves. So, me personally, I ain't going.

Rock Bottom To Reset

SPEAKER_03

I think with um, I think with just like cutting people out, it I mean it had helped me. Right, but it was I don't know, I think hard to do, and it wasn't even like a second chance. And this is where like I came up with second chances because after years of just being burned and walked over, like I I'm a people pleaser, that's I like to do it. I know, but it's bad.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And the ways where I've had to make my own boundaries so that there's I know the difference between people just walking all over me or people actually appreciating me, and then like not so much an eye for an eye, but if I scratch your back, I would hope when I need it.

SPEAKER_07

You scratch mine, exactly. I mean, that's you know something, that's like hoping.

SPEAKER_03

See, like when I gave when you also find out like who who your real friend is.

SPEAKER_07

True, but you know something though? I'm I'm at the age and at the point I don't even care. Yeah, because you know why?

SPEAKER_03

Uh I feel like I tell you three people that I talk to, and you you're one of them. Yeah, I well regularly, right? Regularly, like I I do talk to you regularly, but I'm gonna talk to my mom regularly, I don't want to talk to my man regularly.

SPEAKER_07

Wow, that made me feel real special.

SPEAKER_03

So I told you when I went ghost, I did it like in the words of you, like for real, for real. For real, for real. I went ghost.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Well, you know I did.

SPEAKER_07

I know you do it, but I didn't think it'll be three people. No, I mean I feel special. Like, damn.

SPEAKER_03

Well, like regularly, right? I feel so like every day there's only three people that would hear from me, and every now and then, like you know, depending on the weekend or whatever, you might go a couple days, right? But I know I gotta I understand that's cool.

SPEAKER_07

I'm just joking. I understand, I totally understand though. So what got I mean, like you said your man. So I'm gonna ask this question here What's your type dig since you got a man?

SPEAKER_03

Um hardworking, hardworking like a really nice smile. Creative. Creative is like one of the words that I would use to describe him. Because I swear if the apocalypse comes, I don't know, something happens, everybody takes the good people and I'm stuck down here. I know that if I can keep up with him, I'd be set. Like there are things that he knows that I'm I don't know how to do. Right. Like I don't know how to do.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

A sewing machine, a man owns a sewing machine because his grandparents taught him. I want the man where he learned from his grandpa.

SPEAKER_07

Okay. But see, I gotta I gotta defend again the guys. All because right you ain't loving up for your grandparents don't mean that right you don't know nothing.

SPEAKER_03

I know, I know.

SPEAKER_07

You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03

With his with his grandpa, he was he was a woodworker, he built his own car like from scratch. There was nothing. Okay, there's he buffed it out, he painted it himself, like everything, and it was a beautiful car. So, so right, in so many words not afraid to get their hands dirty, and they yeah, well, I'm definitely out of the question.

SPEAKER_07

I'm scared to get my hands dirty. I'll pill them up where they do it. That's crazy. So, right, in other words, you want a blue-collar dude, you know what I'm saying? Who's on this shit? I feel that. I feel that. I'm picking two.

Boundaries, Second Chances, And Money

SPEAKER_03

I feel like there's like one thing that me and him really agree with is and he might not do that, but like having being independent, right? So, like, I I can go do my own thing, he can go do his own thing at the end of the day. Like, we still love each other and we come home to each other, right? That's it. But even though, like, right now a lot of people are just moving in straight away with somebody, and it like how can you how do you know for sure that you can stand on your own two feet? You know something about that jumping in somebody's house where they can do stuff for you at the same time though, I feel like I totally understand where you're coming from.

SPEAKER_07

And I always say this year, I know people that got married at a at a young age. But I'm like, how do you know what you want if you never experience anything? Because, like, if you get married at the age of 19, 20, and now and now you see something you like out here two or three years later, and then you wind up doing that. That ain't cool, so you're right. You gotta be out there looking, you know what I'm saying, like doing your homework. Like me, I'm picky. I feel that, you know what I'm saying? I'm picky.

SPEAKER_03

But it's not even like just doing your homework. I mean, for some of those people, if you know, you know, I don't know. But I had what was it? I had a conversation with somebody on this one where you know, like you learn from what you grew up with. Right. So like with my with my mom, for example, like, you know, she was she was dating somebody and then she was married, and then right after she was married, got divorced, and then that's when she had married, you know, like my dad. Right. So it wasn't very, and then after you know, my dad had passed, then she was with somebody else. So it's not like there's enough time just learning to do things on your own. Right. And I think that that's really important. So, like even with Lacey, I like I like her to be independent with stuff. She'll ask me to for help, but if I know that it's something that she can do, I'm like, no. Like we need to learn how to be independent and not rely on somebody else.

SPEAKER_07

Hey, I hope y'all women listen to that. That's kind of crazy, though.

SPEAKER_03

So, like, how are you going to not so much like benefit me, but make my life better?

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_03

Like, how are you going to bring peace to my life? Because if they can only, you know, give, let's say if something happens to them, like if I can only give you 30% right now, and that's not just with attention, like relationship wise it off.

SPEAKER_02

Right.

SPEAKER_03

That's like house, you know, the dishes need to be done, chores need to be done, food needs to be made. If I can only give you 30, can you put the other 70 up? I mean so that was small at 100.

SPEAKER_07

But so you know something dope. Whoever you mess with, they gotta appreciate you. Cause ain't too many women out here like you. You know, they either want 90, 10, 95, 5. Matter of fact, let me ask you a question. Can you cook?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

You can cook. So okay. I mean, I mean, I can bake two. I they see that's G14 classified. Y'all cannot get none of that apple or cheesecake. But now, real talk though, I know a lot of women that can't cook and they get mad, you know. And I be telling them like the way to a man hard is through his stomach. At least try to. I mean, in fact, it's made perfect. But at the same time, though, it's like, you know, a lot of people out here cannot cook, you know, and that's sad.

SPEAKER_03

I'm sorry. You know that you're the minority here in Minnesota.

Tight Circles And Quiet Focus

SPEAKER_07

But still, though, but at the same time, though. Yeah, you're right. I'll find that out. Like, that's crazy. I mean, they ask me what I look for in a woman, and I'm gonna be honest with you. Number one, she got to cook. I like for to be independent, at least a part-time job. And you cannot be bigger than me. Number three, for real. And then plus, I don't like a lot of drama. You know, I I mean, I say to myself, you know, I hang out with a couple of guys, but my circle is small. I ain't got time for the nonsense. I don't block people on my online sites, on my business site, but I block you in my head. Now you're on my phone, I won't block you. You still have access to my, maybe, maybe one day you might be not, and then look, you might need some help. I'm not saying I'm coming, but I'll call 911 for you. You feel what I'm saying? So that's just me. But you're right. And my expectation for the females up here, I had them so motherfucking high. It's crazy. Now I give you your props. You do know how to bake. I know that for sure. You got the only cheesecake I eat.

SPEAKER_03

Um I'm trying to remember if I did cook something for you. No, I don't remember.

SPEAKER_07

No, never.

SPEAKER_03

No, just bacon.

SPEAKER_07

Just bacon. I will remember that.

SPEAKER_03

But I told you, like, I grew up in the south. I know you have. I was born here. Right. I grew up in the south. Right. So, like, I I do know.

SPEAKER_07

But still, I gotta taste the food to be able to give you that credit. Like how you taste my food. You know, I mean, when you cook, it's like when you're getting a black person meal, they I never heard of no motherfucking jerk chicken mile. My jerk chicken be spicy, green spicy. No, if I put house on in there, but you know, at the same time, though, you tasted my cooking though. How was it?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you gave me like a a whole Thanksgiving meal once.

SPEAKER_07

Right, right. I know, I know. You tell my buddy that because you tell my everybody told my shit. I don't feed everybody.

SPEAKER_03

I one of my favorite things is collard greens.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And so you would put that in there and say, ooh.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah. But now they wanna collar the old mustard and turnip with uh uh spice to it. And you hit me like that, huh? Wait, put in the collard greens or no, they weren't must. I mean, they weren't collard green, they were mustard and turnip. I read, yeah, and you liked them too. It tasted good.

SPEAKER_03

I don't know if I ate that.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, you did you call and told me.

SPEAKER_03

No, I told you about the collard green.

SPEAKER_07

I don't know about no, you might have thought they were collar. I ain't cooked collar. I ain't cooked collar in 15 years.

SPEAKER_03

Well, that is a lie because I got it in my plate.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah. I'll probably grab the wrong batch. I'm not gonna argue with you. But at the same time, though, you like they all love it though. That's all that matters. But no, though, man, I really it's like you don't know how much I appreciate you. Now, when I don't talk to you and I text you, I'll be fuck I'll be frustrated for real. I ain't gonna lie.

SPEAKER_03

I know.

SPEAKER_07

I don't love it like that, sweet.

SPEAKER_03

I told you like just a short little snippet of like what I do. I know.

SPEAKER_07

Sorry, I was you know, I mean, I it's cool as long as I know that you're good. Yeah, you feel me?

SPEAKER_03

Last night I was on for the ambulance, but I also did a CPR class for daycare providers. So like I I had to I didn't get done until 9 30. Yeah, and my day had started, I went 12 hours.

SPEAKER_07

You work too much for me. You couldn't be my girl, man. You had to be in the bed at least 12 hours. You working 12 hours? I ain't sleeping 12 hours. Exactly. It's called priority. It's called priority for real, for real.

SPEAKER_03

And making sure that my kid has an education, that's where it's going towards telling you.

SPEAKER_07

I will say some sleep, but I'm not. I know. You know what I'm saying? But you know how I feel about that at the same time. But no, though, um, that's crazy. My favorite, and that that's real talk. That's real talk. But um, so if you're not working and if you don't have your daughter, so what do you do? I mean, y'all just sit in the house, watch TV, you hunt, you say, right?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, and I mean sometimes it's really nice to just sit and relax and not do anything, not have to referee. Um not have to be referee what the kids.

SPEAKER_00

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_03

Sometimes it's interesting.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Um, but there's I was just telling somebody about this too. Like, I can appreciate all the ages of the kids because it's it's different stages that I also get to experience with my daughter. Like as she grows up, but I get to like see it multiple times and really appreciate it because I've always wanted a big family.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, that's that's good.

SPEAKER_03

And one of the things that I I tell people is like I wanted a big family, and having my daughter terrified me to have another one because why well the birth experience was just hard. I had an emergency C sense. Okay, and they ended up uh I think they did a little bit of CPR on her at first. She she was early, so she wasn't breathing properly, and then her blood pressure. So a normal newborn's blood pressure is like six sixty for the top number, your diastolic number, and then forty for like the bottom number. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Wow, for real.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, even for like an adult being considered like hypertensive, so like high blood pressure.

SPEAKER_00

Right.

SPEAKER_03

So when she was born, she stayed two days, and they told us that you know she could have had a stroke if this wasn't managed, but they can't do it here, except in you know, like at another hospital. And I almost bought the physician asking where she tried to get me to stay at the hospital while my daughter takes off.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, actually knock it off.

SPEAKER_03

And she was like, You had you just had a C-section, like it's really hard, you know. Like, we we just want to make sure that you're okay. I was like, You don't discharge papers. I didn't y'all have not once come to check on me in here, but thank god I went to nursing school because I I did it myself.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, I need to take that course because they do be doing the most, they don't be doing the most. So I'll definitely ask you something, but I kind of snoozed. Kind of snooze.

SPEAKER_03

I don't know, I've been gibber jabbering.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, so any more question you want to ask me about me though?

SPEAKER_03

Since you say you want to well, like I had, I think I had already kind of asked it, like, what's your take on cutting people out?

SPEAKER_02

Right.

SPEAKER_03

I've even told you before, right? Like, there are certain people where like it you you did that second chance and now it is time to be done.

SPEAKER_07

But see, you know, some dog, you're right about that. You you always have been right about that. But it's just like if I give a person a second chance, it takes time for them to fuck that up. And then by them doing it and um noticing it and I'm seeing it, that made me push. And I mean, not push, make me fall back, you know what I'm saying? So at the end of the day, it's just like I gave you a chance, and by you crossing me, see, this me in real life, I don't need you. You need me, you need me to do a lot of things around here. So I'm like, okay, I'll fall back. I mean, it's people that I know that know me that I don't even well, I said that wrong. It's people that know me that I don't know. I found that out what Friday. What's up, man?

SPEAKER_03

I find out things about myself every day.

SPEAKER_07

Hey, that's fucked up though.

SPEAKER_03

Until like, you know, I cut everybody off, and then that's when I started hearing things about myself where I'm like, sure, I didn't know I did that. That's wild. What next?

SPEAKER_07

Hey, you know something, man. Hey, we gotta say in Chicago. If you ain't doing nothing right, they ain't got nothing to say. Trust me. The reason why you hear your name out here in all this chatter is because you gotta be doing something right. And I gave you a props already, because it's a lot of women that's not even on your page, so don't even look at it, don't think about it, look over it.

SPEAKER_03

They haven't gone through, and I don't want anybody to go through that, but just but see now, let me cut you off.

SPEAKER_07

Sometimes some people need to go through something to learn, like to learn, and then plus to get somewhere, and a lot of people think this shit is sweet out here, and it's not. So, like, don't never think like that. You did what you did, and you overcame it, and you still climbing that highest mountain, and you're doing damn good in real life. So don't never think that, you know. I mean, fuck them. I hate to say it, but fuck them. You know what I'm saying? Like, it is what it is, though. I mean, like, I don't know nobody that grew up old, that grew up old and still buddy, still friend. So, like, that's a part of life, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And like, I'm I'm fine with not like having those friends in my life anymore, just because like what were they bringing to my table?

SPEAKER_07

Right.

SPEAKER_03

It's a pot luck, and I'm the only one that's getting additional.

Parenting For Grit And Critical Thinking

SPEAKER_07

You said a pot luck. So are you the only one bringing some? Hey, hey, no, some I feel that though. I mean, that's why I had to train my circle, you know, and then like when you first met me, or I was out and about, circle, it was extra, extra small. You know, my circle is small, but the people are different. And if you ain't got nothing going for yourself that make me inspire, why did you be around you? Because I already have what I needed already. I'm getting well, I'm not rich, not a millionaire, but it's just like if I need money, I can get money. But if you ain't played the if I don't see you doing something, I'm gonna fall back off of it because why in the hell I'm around you. You ain't doing nothing. Nines out of ten, your hand probably out. You want this, you want that. You ain't my kid. I ain't trying to feed you. Like for real, and that just being me. And a lot of people don't like me for that, but I don't give a damn.

SPEAKER_03

But if you look at those people that constantly have their hand out, you know, like they latch on to somebody for a little bit, it'll work, and then once they've exhausted that, they go on to the next.

SPEAKER_07

And that's that next person problem. They're gonna see it in the long run. You know, a lot of people's and say, you know, I'm from Chicago. Where I'm at now, and Chicago version of me are totally two different people. You know, they think I'm this nice, quiet teddy bear. See, it's like a lot of things in me that get me frustrated that I laugh about. But when I see you out here bad mouthing me, I ain't trying to go to jail. So, like I say, I fall back. If I see you out here ain't known shit, doing the same thing, I fall back. You know, and that's crazy for somebody that don't have no type of ambition to do anything. You know, I mean, like for real. And that shows a lot about a person who sees them. And I'm looking like, damn.

SPEAKER_03

But like, why why do you want to rely on somebody else?

SPEAKER_07

Oh, me? No, not you.

SPEAKER_03

Because people in general, like, why why wouldn't you want the privilege to say, like, I did this myself? Because it just it baffles me.

SPEAKER_07

A lot of people are scared to be on it. See, a lot of people are the easy way out. A lot of people don't want. A lot, no, I'll take that back. A lot of people need, and a lot of people want, but instead of going after what they need and which is a job, which is all the positive things in life, you go after something that you want, and that's a handout. Me personally, I can't see it. Now, whenever you see me and I post something, it's just like I'm with the same group of guys, or you know, I'm by myself, it'll make a difference. I gotta hustle every day. I got a podcast, I gotta do content. That means that something's already running in my mind. Do you know a lot of you know a lot of people think I'll be talking about them, but it ain't the case? Y'all got too much time in your hand.

SPEAKER_03

But if the shoe is lace not.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So it's just like, I mean, I'm not saying nothing negative, but at the same time, though, it's just like a lot of people think what I post be about them. And and real talk, it don't. I know a lot of people, and and and a lot of and it's like a lot of people know me.

SPEAKER_03

You know what that, you know what that is? That's a deal.

SPEAKER_07

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, I got messages saying that keep me out the conversation. I got messages saying that you must really miss me. I'm like, huh?

SPEAKER_02

Who?

SPEAKER_07

No, I said, huh? I'm like, who? I'm like, for real. Look, first of all, I love money, and money is my woman. She never broke bad on me. I broke bad on her. So don't get it twisted. Like, for real, like, man, knock it off in real life. Don't sit there and act like I need you when I don't.

SPEAKER_03

You know, I mean, like it just made me think of like, you know, money is my woman. I did that on her, but she keeps coming back.

SPEAKER_07

Right, you know what I'm saying? Like, for real. That's my mentality. If you look on any one of my posts, hustle man is up there. I can sell water to the lake. And I don't care what no one might think about it. Like, for real. I mean, I'm not saying I'm better than nobody, but I've been through a lot of my lifetime. And it's and it's time for me to start showing that up here. Like, I don't understand how people up here think that's true, but uh, I don't know how people up here think that about my mentality just that, no, I'm from Chicago, I'm from the streets, I'm from the project, and I'm known down at you saying my live. It was reckless. Man, me boo, man, big nick, tweet, link. And man. I am, man. I mean, I am.

SPEAKER_03

I know for your birthday, but like doing another one.

SPEAKER_07

I am. I want to do one this weekend, but at the same time, though, I got a lot going on. Shout out to Rawdog, too. I'm helping him try to uh come back on an appeal, you know, and I've been trying to take advantage for him. But at the same time, though, I want to do a lot of live. I I do live on TikTok, do live on Facebook. This shit is another job, and I didn't know that. Yeah, I'm talking about man.

SPEAKER_03

I told you, did you get your calendar?

SPEAKER_07

No, oh, I forgot. See what I mean? Hey, I forgot. Like, it's like, man, and you know I need it, Carl, hit you like three times, like, where you at?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Yesterday, right?

SPEAKER_07

I'm like, oh wow, right. I'm talking about doing a lot of things, and and I like that, you know. So that I ain't got time for that nonsense. I'm not in nobody else's business. I got too much going on myself. So it's like, why the fuck would I want to be in your motherfucking business? You ain't got enough for me. You can't help me out, you can't feed me. We're not having go here.

SPEAKER_03

It's not like you know, being a part of drama, right? It's knowing what's going on yet, right? And I have my own opinion on it. I don't have to say names, right? But like I have my own opinion of what I'm hearing, because I can't stop, you know, people telling me stuff.

SPEAKER_00

Right.

SPEAKER_03

It is what it is, true, and I can have my own opinion on it. And if I say that, I'm not gonna say names, right? But this is what I've seen, and that's my opinion on it, and I would hope that like you know, 95% of people agree, anyways. That's how I hold you fan favorite, yeah.

SPEAKER_07

You're the fan favorite, you're my favorite. Fuck you.

SPEAKER_03

95% of people agree because it's common sense.

SPEAKER_07

I'm sorry, I'm gonna see I'm almost getting loud. But see, but see, a lot of people don't have common sense.

SPEAKER_03

No, you know, so right, I don't give nobody no passes, bleeding trait, and it drives me nuts because if you just stop and think for a second, what you're doing is bad, have a guilty conscience and fix what needs to be fixed, right? Do the right thing the first time, or if you if you fuck up, then you better apologize whether it's intentional or not intentional, like you still hurt somebody.

SPEAKER_07

But see, at the same time, though, sweet, it's just like to the person that got hurt, you gotta get that I don't give a fuck. Like you feel me? Because they might don't care.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you can't expect an apology. I've been waiting for an apology for almost five years.

SPEAKER_07

I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_03

Not from you.

SPEAKER_07

I'm saying, whatever it is, I apologize.

SPEAKER_03

But no, I have been waiting for one for like five years, right? And I know that I'm never I'm probably never gonna give it.

SPEAKER_07

Well look and hold your breath. Yeah, so you know, it's kind of funny though. It's really kind of funny. But no though, you know, so back to you. Now you said that I asked you what's your time. Now, what do you see yourself at in five years though?

SPEAKER_03

I like to live, I like to live in the the moment present, yeah. I like to enjoy what's happening. To a point I will worry about like other things, but you know, like where I'm at. To a point I will worry about like where I'm at with things, but it's I don't know, I don't know how to explain it. It's I would just rather be like in the moment, be present. If it comes, it comes because I've also had like high expectations of certain things and been greatly disappointed. So not having expectations of anyone like but myself because I know what I can accomplish makes it to where like I can just appreciate what is happening now and not look at like, well, this is where I want to be in five years, sort of thing. And I have like small goals and big goals, but for myself. So so um like if you're talking relationship relationship-wise, I I don't know, I like where things are at right now, I like doing my own thing, and I think that eventually like the end goal is always marriage, right? Right, like being with that person forever. After that, like I don't know, I'm probably still just gonna do the same thing that I'm doing now.

SPEAKER_07

Okay, okay, I understand that. Ain't no wrong with that though, but you know your wiping material, right? Yeah, okay. Don't say yourself short, I'm just all I'm saying, though. You're wiping material.

Opinions Without Names

SPEAKER_03

I know, and like for a little bit, like I was really hard on myself, like more perfectionist sort of thing. Like where if I would get like just pissed if I did it and I did it wrong, and I knew that I could have done it better, and then it makes me get really hard on myself. But I've learned to be better about that and like realizing what I do bring to the table, right? But no, with like the goals and stuff, like there's certain things school-wise, like I want to continue doing school, okay, work-wise, I want to get you know caught up with bills. Obviously, being a student, I have debts making sure that Lacey has like a great education, which she does, because they're not only teaching her like you know, the typical stuff like ABCs, they're teach teaching her critical thinking where she can build things on her own. She built like a little boat that can go on the creek. Yeah, okay, and using a rubber band makes it go. And so she did that, she did that with the help of her teachers, obviously, but she learned how to do all of that in school. So it's like a new program that they're trying to do too for kids to not only learn, you know, ABCs, one, two, threes, right, multiplication, division, whatever, but also teaching them how to do things kind of on their own, be independent and using the critical thinking and wear it like do something technical with your hands. Right.

SPEAKER_07

Okay. Yeah, I mean, that's good. That's nice.

SPEAKER_03

When I wanted something for my own, I wanted the best, and I think I found it.

SPEAKER_07

You think or you know.

SPEAKER_03

I know I found it.

SPEAKER_07

You sure?

SPEAKER_03

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_07

What makes you know?

SPEAKER_03

How far she's come.

SPEAKER_07

Oh no, I'm just like not see. I'm not talking about listening. I thought you were talking about something else. I ain't talking about your daughter never had.

SPEAKER_03

No, no, no. Like her education. So, like I looked up the school, did my own research, I listened to other people about it. And just from seeing her like in a summer program where she was at to where she's now. Like, she is she's amazing, she is so smart, and I think it has a lot to do with that school.

SPEAKER_07

Okay, and then what's the name of school she go to?

unknown

I can't say that.

SPEAKER_07

I'm just I'd ask, I mean, if you just want to hit it. Okay, exact G14 classified, so okay.

SPEAKER_03

Like cheesecake.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, yeah, that you can't have none of that. Now you got me for um Thanksgiving though.

SPEAKER_03

You want me to make one?

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, man. I need one every year.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_07

I'm sorry I didn't get the dessert. I totally still wanna, okay.

SPEAKER_03

Like I said, I don't have threes of room for there.

SPEAKER_07

It's a lot of them too, because I'm gonna order like three of them.

SPEAKER_03

I'm kind of wondering, like, what many is it? There were like a couple of people that had bought three themselves. Some family members bought two. But I don't know how big they are.

SPEAKER_07

I don't I don't know if it's like you're right, because how I was looking, I'm like, damn and I thought about it this much, sweat of God. After I texted this morning right, I'm like, let me get these damn pies real quick. So I went down, they gone. I'm like, damn.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it was only I don't remember when they closed, they closed like the online one before the other one, but I told you to do the online one because I knew it would give you more time.

Letting Go Of Apologies

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, I swear I forgot. Yeah, I've been that one saying I'm doing so many things in a day that I don't even it's like I forget about a lot of things, and I don't understand why people sit there and think that oh man, I got a buddy in jail, I got a podcast, then I got me, and I it's like I done put myself at the bottom, and that shouldn't be the case, but at the same time, though, it is what it is though. So man, I appreciate you, man. You coming through doing this podcast with me, man. Yeah, it really means something. So before we end it, is there anything that you want somebody is there anything that you want people to know about you that they don't know, or either like they got the wrong wrong idea?

SPEAKER_03

No, you probably got the right idea. No, I'm kidding. Uh no, I don't know. I I feel like I'm a pretty open book. Like if you ask me something, I'm gonna answer it as much as I can. Obviously, like I need to keep some things private, but I would just tell you that.

SPEAKER_07

Okay. That's anything you want to ask me before we get off there.

SPEAKER_03

Are you hungry? Because I'm hungry.

SPEAKER_07

Oh yeah, oh yeah. Matter of fact, what do you want to DJ? I feel like I'm gonna go to DJ's day, you know.

SPEAKER_03

You you said something about jerk chicken, and that's all I've been thinking about.

SPEAKER_07

Oh, I make that every other day now. I know everything. But at the same time, though, I want to think, man. The favorite. No, I said to the back. The people's favorite. Capital P. E. O. P L E. Favorite, and my favorite. Fine shit. Y'all give a hand. All right. So this interview here will be Ad Friday. Y'all tune in.