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Faith, Accountability, And Building Community In Small-Town America

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The moment you realize the old code is costing your future, everything shifts. We open up about trading the tough-guy reflex for a mindset anchored in faith, accountability, and context—understanding when to walk away and when to stand firm. That shift isn’t theory; it’s lived experience across Chicago blocks and quiet Minnesota streets, where the same move can mean safety in one place and trouble in another.

From there, we get practical. We share a plan to turn a massive old school building in Beardsley, Minnesota into a community hub with a public garage—tools, space, and guidance so neighbors can fix their cars without breaking the bank. It’s mutual aid on a concrete floor, backed by side hustles that actually serve people: classic cars, affordable beaters, catering, and a legal cannabis rolling service. The goal is simple—build assets that make a small town stronger, more skilled, and more connected.

We also go straight at a hard topic: truth, policing, and the narratives that keep shifting. One of us admits to believing the wrong story before, and why changing your mind when the facts change isn’t weakness—it’s integrity. We swap stories about cover-ups, double standards, and the pressure to protect image over people, while still keeping our friendships with good officers and a commitment to call out harm wherever it lives. The throughline is clear: love your home by telling the truth, even when it stings, and put your hands to work building something better.

Hit play if you want a conversation that blends street wisdom, small-town grit, and a plan you can touch. If you’re with us—subscribe, share this with a friend, and drop a comment: What would you build for your community?

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Setting The Stage And Intent

SPEAKER_04

What's going on, Slimmy?

SPEAKER_02

What's going on? You know, chilling. Came to the birthday party. Yeah. Had to come support what's going on. Right. So what's the topic today?

Faith First And A New Direction

SPEAKER_04

Hey, the topic gonna be a dialogue. It's gonna be a conversation between me and you. You know? Whatever you want to ask me, ask me. And whatever I ask you, I'm gonna ask you, you know, because we just doing a podcast. I'll have it for sure. Yes, sir. Alright. Now, I do have a nice audience. I hate to brag to my own horn, but it's some in the Philippines, some in Germany overseas. So can you tell these people out there something about you?

SPEAKER_02

Shit. First of all, Konichiwa. You know? Yeah, I actually scratched that. First of all, all glory to God. Praise God. Gotta put that out there first. Yes. And then Konichiwa. Everyone out there. Yes. And uh Yeah, so everything that I'm about lately, I've changed my whole tune. I'm pushing everything, everything about my faith. Right. And trying to draw people in to be interested in that, like I got. So that's that's pretty much my whole route of where I where I'm going. So what draws you into that? The world, what's going on out here? All the terrible ever everything you see going on in the world every day. Hey, I like that. You know, it's uh if you if you don't have something to look at as a as a code of what what's good and what's not, right, then you're never gonna you're never gonna uh go through life making good decisions. Exactly. Yeah.

Letting Go Of The Tough-Guy Mindset

SPEAKER_04

And I wanna apologize too, because God is good. Without him, I wouldn't be here. So I should have said that at first. Alright. And I really see you online, you're reading your Bible, you know what I'm saying? And then and then look, you're studying the word and you're talking apologetic. Real talk coming from a person like me that I love the Lord too, that's kind of hard to do. It is. So I what keep you focused on doing what you're doing?

SPEAKER_02

Really? You have you have to wanna you have to wanna be better. You have to wanna be able to uh you have to want that for yourself. I never wanted to be able to handle situations. I like to be the guy who's gonna fly off the handle when you get mad, you know. I'm not to be fucked with. I get mad, I'll fuck you up. Like, you know, you got something that one. Yeah. So I had to break that mindset before I could even try to dedicate myself to actually being better. So like I never could have I had I had to break that tough guy mentality completely. Okay. Some someone could maybe even like steal off on me and beat me up. And I for if if if I'm not feeling like fighting, I might not even fight somebody. That's the point I'm at in my life now. Okay. So like I know like who's gonna let themselves get bitched, you know, but like if you if you really just wanna if you you if you don't want to fight and you just want to love, sometimes you might turn the other cheek. And you know something though?

Adapting Street Codes To New Places

SPEAKER_04

I got something to say about that, because that's like I was I think I was telling a major just the other day. Like, you had to change your junk for Chicago, and their mentality is ain't no game bitch. You do this, we gonna do that. But coming up here, I had to change my mentality. Exactly. You can't be like that. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes I call it giving it a G pass. But if you put your hands on me, that'd be something different. But if we just arguing and you getting tough, oh man, I'm gone. Cause I know I'm in up at. So now I got to think about me. You know what I'm saying? So I understand exactly where you're coming from. You know, I swear to God, I do. I think I said before on one of my podcasts, like a lot of people do that talking, but never been in that predicament. You know what I'm saying? So you can't judge this person for doing something and you never did it. So I mean, like, I can see that. You know what I'm saying? Like, man, if I would have never done this here, I wouldn't have done that a 36 or nine-bit. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02

So what you're saying is straight correct. Yeah, and another thing to touch on, if I'm gonna say it like that, is you can't you can't take that mentality and bring it everywhere. Exactly. Like you're talking about, like you come from Chicago and you switched your mentality here. If I went to Chicago, not gonna go there with the mentality of I'm gonna turn the other cheek. Exactly. Because if I do that there, it's gonna be bad news. Exactly.

SPEAKER_04

Hey, we went before being amazing, and something finna go down, and I'm injured. I'm still in the front line, like goofy, you the goofy. I told God, like, come on, man, we gotta go. I don't know what's wrong with me, man. I mean, like the mentality flipped back, and it's just like, you know, like where we live at, I respect it. And I don't want, you know what I'm saying, what other towns, other cities, and other states are getting. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, man, just leave it peaceful. I mean, like, why would we even, you know what I'm saying, like bring that mentality here when it's quiet? Nice. Hey, my people got on out here. Stop went outside and some flip-flops, some house shoot. You can't do that in Chicago. Right. Yeah, I took a picture, I'm by a boat, they bug up. But y'all fella realize though, I'm not gonna say where we live at, but it's peaceful and it's understanding. You know?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Mm-hmm. So uh I think you bought a build.

Choosing Peace Over Pride

SPEAKER_02

I mean, you're working in a building. Yeah, my mom bought a giant school building in Beardsley, Minnesota. Okay. It's like uh like four stories tall. Okay. Uh I don't even know how many square feet or anything like that. It's just a big ass fucking building. Like the thing is huge. But we're gonna we're actually gonna turn that into uh something that is gonna benefit the community again up there. So it's good, we're gonna have like a mechanic shop where I'm gonna be doing my work in. And anyone in the community up there, we're gonna we're gonna have it so that people can come in for free, use all the tools, use the shop, use the equipment. It's gonna be a community program. Oh, yeah. People can come in and fix their cars. I'll help them, I'll help them work on it and stuff like that. Right. So, like all types of stuff like that we're gonna be doing for the community once we uh have everything up and going. It's gonna it's gonna be maybe a year, two years, three years down the road when everything's right. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

I like that. I mean, look, I I be laughing like, man, look at here, man. Look at him. Now look, keep doing construction. I mean, everything, you know.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I mean the cars, that's do the cars, you know, grow a little bit of weed. Gotta do that with soda, it's legal now. We can see that.

SPEAKER_04

True. True. I mean, I mean, promote yourself. You know how I'm coming. Yes, sir. But no, no, but and I like that. I'm just wondering, like, what can we make out of it? You know what I'm saying? And it's like, you'd be your first one there every day. Like, I'm doing this here, throwing this out. I'm like, look at my metal, think of business. So, um, so Slimmy. If it's funny, call you that, because I know your name. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, for sure. Yeah, that's how people can find me too, Slimmy Hoffer. So if I'm if I go on here and say Chris Hoff, no one's gonna find me by that anyway. Right.

SPEAKER_04

Okay. I mean, true. Do you got any social media that if you want to, you know what I'm saying, you want to know about? It really matters. Let me say this correctly. Tell them about yourself and about the team you do, like all the work you do. And then and then if you need some of that work done, hit you.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, so right now, pretty much the only work that I offer as a service to people is I do a rolling service, joints, donut holes, stuff like that, and catering. I do uh raffle draws for bud. Okay. So like everyone's a winner with that. Right. Um my cars. I would say that I do mechanic work and I can do that for people right now, but I'm I'm working on getting my garage. It's winter time, I'm not about to be doing it out in the cold. So, but I do sell cars. If people want cheap cars, most of the time I got something I'm willing to sell.

SPEAKER_04

Right, you know, so and they dribble, they ain't breaking down like somebody's cars. I ain't gonna call you out though. For real.

SPEAKER_02

It is what it is, though. But go ahead, my bad. Oh no, you're good. That's I there really ain't much to me. I I I'm about my faith, I'm about classic cars, and I do love America. I want it to do better, though. Top of that. You know, you gotta you gotta love it. But you if you if you'd really love it, then you want it to do better and you want to call out the problems. Exactly.

SPEAKER_04

So and know something though, I swear to God, I respect you like a motherfucker. I be read. I don't say a lot, but I respect you to be said. I respect you. I respect you too.

Building A Community Garage In Minnesota

SPEAKER_02

And also another thing, my opinions constantly changing. Right. I'm not I'm not dead set on anything. Someone could bring me some information that would make that. Yeah, so like I my opinions have flopped on things based on information that I get. Like, I don't want to be like a flip-floppy guy, right? But this is the problem right here, and this is something we're about to be touching on now. Okay, truth. Go ahead. Yeah. If you care about the truth, you'll hear this is the truth, and then you wanna you wanna call out that and stick to that, but then three months later you'll find out that wasn't the truth. So now, if you want to embrace the truth, they're telling you it's something different. Okay, so you make it they make you into a liar by lying to you themselves. Like they say this is the truth and you you believe it, and then once it's not the truth anymore, you're the liar. So I you're right. I call that doing homework.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, it's two sides for the story, and that's what I do now at home. Yeah, so so uh uh why is it that some people just are stuck? You um, I mean, you said, okay, before we find out anything, they're gonna look at it, all that, then it comes to us. So it's like it's like 20 clips of one angle, 20 clips, and it's up to you to come with a judgment. But I feel like this is though. It's always gonna be one way because that's how they want it to be. Uh-huh. You know what I'm saying? And like I say, much respect to you. Because I I read your post all the time. It's how you just said uh one time when you said that you seen the correct vision, and you and then it's like he went wrong, and then you say that I don't care what nobody said. I don't really I don't think nobody I think like deserved to get killed. Yeah. And somebody says something else, and you said that you still the same way after being seen this year. It's just like you can put things in people's face and they still see a difference. Yeah. And we wrote that. I wanted to write something, but I'm like, damn, my man just got done, put it out there in a row. You know what I'm saying?

Side Hustles, Cars, And Legal Cannabis

SPEAKER_02

Like, so I can touch on that a little bit because I've been over to a side that I believed things that weren't true. Okay. So from being in a position where I came back from that and was able to embrace the truth and see through the lies, right? I feel like I can explain the mentality of people who are wanting to believe those lies. And I'm going to do it right now. Right. I myself, once I broke the mentality, I realized that there was a part of me that always knew this isn't right. Right. And you don't want to believe that part. You'll just, you'll just say, all of this other stuff that I'm seeing is convincing enough that this little thing that I have a feeling might not be right, I'm going to ignore based on everything else I see. Right. So it's not that they they can't see what's going on. It's that they're choosing to latch on to a false narrative that promotes what they want to believe. Copy that. Yes, sir. Only that you kept it real. They're keeping it real. And that's what I was doing. So like I was that's that was me. I'm not saying that wasn't me. So like full full accountability on that part. Right.

Loving America While Wanting Better

SPEAKER_04

And I didn't say it that I respect what you did. Sometimes, right, it's just like you can't speak the truth without hatred come. Yeah. And that's crazy. You know what I'm saying? How you said it, say if I would have said like you said that, I'd have got all types of hatred, this and that, this and that. But I'm like, no, I mean, I mean, that's like telling the truth. I mean, even though I've been through police brutality and all that extra stuff, I got a lot of best friends that I talked. I got I got best friends in the Marine, in the Navy. You know what I'm saying? So I gotta look at it objectively. And if they're in the wrong, that's gonna say. If we're in the wrong, that's gonna say. So so it's just like I'm not never sitting there and take one side because say I use the people I be around. They got killed by them. Now, if they did something bullishly, you know what I'm saying, y'all wrong for that. You putting everybody else in jeopardy while you're doing that goofy ass shit. Absolutely. You know what I'm saying? So and and I got a buddy right now, his name Mo. He been on the forest 27 years. Nice. And and and uh and he said in the dope back. I'm gonna tell you like this here. He's not gonna be charged because the president back. But that's something that we can't do because if we do it, we're gonna be under investigation. And he's been uh a CPD officer for 27 years. I'm I'm like, I know that though, but it's kind of sad. You know what I'm saying? Because I'm glad you're here because I we do this again though. But at the same time, it's kind of sad that uh we're not looked at the same. For sure, yeah, I agree. Because no, I'm on the street. We got a GD. And we big. But you know what's bigger than the GDs, the Vice Lords, the Moes and all that? The police. I was about to say that's the biggest gang in America. Yeah, I don't care what nobody says, and they think that all police, no, that's the biggest gang in America. And then real talk, nope, it ain't up here, but in Chicago, the killings, they don't go to jail for that.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, honestly, uh around here in Alexandria, Minnesota, yeah, they cover shit up, bro. Because it's a vacation community. Right. So when a murder actually happens, my homie got stabbed in the throat like four times, and they literally covered it up and said it was a suicide. Who stabs himself in the throat four times? And he fell down the stairs trying to run to get help. There was blood all the way down the hallway, and they said that he killed himself. But it's because they don't want people to see that there's been murders in Alec, so they put say it's a suicide, so then the vacationers don't get scared away.

SPEAKER_04

Hey, anybody with the right frame of mind, once you do this here, the staff. I mean, yeah, I've seen things that been covered up too. Like, I've seen a lot of violence. I've seen people kill their shit, I've seen people get killed. But if you say you got hit from one side, the impact is gonna knock you the same way that impact, you know what I'm saying, push you forward. No, no, no. Are you for real? Like, I mean, I see who you're coming from though. And it's kind of crazy, I'll be telling people. The police is the biggest gang in the Mat. Big ass bag up. They might don't want them.

Truth, Misinformation, And Changing Views

SPEAKER_02

National Guard. I mean, like, yeah, another thing that happened down here, there was an officer in Glenwood, uh, it was either Glenwood or Starbuck. He he kicked someone's shin bone to splinters, shintered it while they were in handcuffs. He had them handcuffed and he kicked their leg until it shattered their bone. Yeah, so and and guess what? They they didn't they didn't fire him, they moved him to the Alec course from the Glenwood one. Yeah, yeah. It was Diaz, was it?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I hate that mod, man. I call him pretty Ricky. I call that nigga pretty ricky, man. For real. When you said that, he's a crooked motherfucker. Yes, sir. I got my first ticket. No, I'm this is my first change in Chicago. Um I'm I'm hanging out with uh Nicky Yon all now at my town. I'm taking my U-Haul truck. I party now. I'm walking down Broadway. Why this my Elliot Diaz call his buddy? He went on duty. Call this buddy, give me a ticket for driving out my license. He was falling a U-Haul truck. Bogus is hell. Yeah. And every time he sees me on pull me old, calling out my name. You know I'm fuck with you.

SPEAKER_00

That is not allowed indoors.

SPEAKER_04

Um let me end this podcast.