Two Cousins Bap And Dee Break Down The NBA And Build A Family Legacy On BapTalk

We trade cousin stories, set plans for building together, and argue NBA legacies with live Rockets-OKC reactions. Chicago food cravings push us to build our own lane with Chicago Munchies while we pick sleeper teams, question flopping, and fight over the GOAT.

• live check-ins and family gratitude
• new ventures across food, media and photography
• Chicago Munchies concept and location details
• Rockets vs OKC reactions and flopping debate
• Spurs sleeper case and Houston optimism
• Lakers fit, Luka usage and bench-scoring theory
• Bulls front-office patterns and recent moves
• MJ vs LeBron era wars and shoe influence
• fantasy lineups with draft-year rules
• Shaq vs Hakeem big-man breakdown
• small-town living vs city culture and food

Transcript

Warm-Up Banter And Vibes

SPEAKER_06 0:15

They ain't see me because I pulled up in my mother bed. Last week I was in my mother bed.

SPEAKER_01 0:23

Shoot the fresh.

SPEAKER_07 0:25

Like the mouth about the call of pop around see your mind. Live in the mercy. Run up on easy. The wrong way I might be. Political refugees. Everything is like passports, I'm never gonna jail.

SPEAKER_06 0:45

Control level flow, it's never gonna fail. Let's should be wrapped. The ermine is a person. Sophisticated ignorance, right? My curse is a cursive. I get a custom. You a customer, you ain't customer, going through customs. You ain't even know I'm and all the ladies in the house, get them chillin' out. I'm gonna hit you with my yam.

SPEAKER_07 1:04

Whoopin' to the planner, smoking cubanos with castro in the linen. We have many cut, cubano, too many kind of all the plugs that I know. Driving bins, with no benefits, my bad. Get some immigrants, do your fences. We digging tunnels. Can't you see we gettin' money up under you?

SPEAKER_06 1:24

Can't you see the proper jets flying over you? Maybe back, bump a stickery. What we're over to day is chillin', yay is chillin'. What more can I say? We killin' them. Hold up before we in this campaign. As you can see, we embody the damn millennium slowly stepping accept the face that came changed.

SPEAKER_01 2:00

Here we go now. Time to kick it off. Today we top it. I got my bloodline. My real bloodline. Hey, this is one real press. I'm thinking what you're doing. I feel like you feel in the line. I be filling you. I feel like I'm gonna let my filibuster and it won't get run up. And it won't get it in. So right now, I'm gonna let it be run up.

SPEAKER_07 3:27

What you make me do? Look what I'm gonna do for you. Just a matter of pairs. The big one perfect time, it's not bad, like no, I'm gonna make the plate with you. Shop in.

Cousins Check In And Family Bonds

SPEAKER_01 5:21

Hey, you know something though? Let me get my cousin in here right now. You know what I'm saying? Hey, D, where you at, man? Where you at? Yeah, we right here with it, baby. Okay, copy that, copy that, copy that. Tell me something, man. Okay, what y'all on over there?

SPEAKER_04 5:36

I'm sitting here with my partner. My player partner watching these motherfucking games. Yeah. He's best man. We got Houston and motherfucking uh Houston and OKC rocking right now. You know what I'm saying? We chillin' to the intro. I'm getting my vibe going. Right, right, right, right. You know, talk shit. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 5:54

You know, like me being an old G, you know, I fuck with Jay heavy, so I let the whole J rock. You know what I'm saying? But it is what it is, though. Okay, so right now, you know what I'm saying? You're at the crib. Tell me something. Are you doing anything out there? Okay, now what's going on?

SPEAKER_04 6:10

Oh yeah, we're doing a lot. We ain't never start moving, man. As you know, we all from the low, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's my real cousin, goddamn it. We go back, we can peel the last back and low key. We're gonna get into that later on, but we peel the letters back. Y'all gonna see why we really say cousin when we say we're gonna be from where we from, but right now we on that we on that positive, man. We building a lot of a lot of bridges that we can we can cross right now, and we're gonna let our kids and our kids' kids cross.

Building Bridges And New Ventures

SPEAKER_04 6:40

So we got businesses going, we got our new restaurant out west. We call Chicago Munchies. We got the media shit going on, we got about we got about hot talk going on, you know what I'm saying? We got the new we got the new and approved version of the photos going on, you know what I'm saying? And we got a new a new wave coming. That's gonna be for that's gonna be for the people. When I say for the people, I'm talking about for everybody, you know what I'm saying? Black, white, Indian, Spanish, air thing, man. You know, this is a lineage thing, so we're gonna roll it out slow, but just to let them know, man, there's a lot of good things coming. Y'all gonna get it. I'm gonna get into the lot. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 7:19

Yeah, yeah. Okay. We're gonna get to all that. Alright, but the first thing you said when you watching the game, you watching OKC and the Rocket. Matter of fact, who you got?

SPEAKER_04 7:32

Low key, I ain't gonna hold you. I'm riding with Houston, man. Okay, better. I hit OKC.

SPEAKER_01 7:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 7:40

I fuck with OKC as a team.

SPEAKER_01 7:44

I don't fuck with neither one. I don't fuck with none of them punks. I swear to god, I don't. They flop. They flop more than Robin. On everything, they flop more than Robin.

SPEAKER_04 7:55

So they flopping like they in the water, huh?

SPEAKER_01 7:56

Yeah, on everything, especially SGA. I mean, dude, you hey look, I'm just gonna say I don't like them. You know what I'm saying? Like, y'all make the league look real bad now.

SPEAKER_04 8:07

What's the new it's the new wave of uh hoopers now, bro? They they look at that like strategy at this point. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 8:12

That's crazy though. Why?

SPEAKER_04 8:15

They call it uh foul baiting. Yeah, that's it. You know when they make a name for something, that's when it's sticking, it ain't gonna go nowhere.

SPEAKER_01 8:22

It's crazy though. Uh hey, the whole league hate SGA.

SPEAKER_04 8:29

But look, I'm gonna look, I'm gonna keep it a bang though, because that's what we do. Right? I'm gonna keep it a bang. Go ahead. He's not a scrub though, cuz. No, he's not. But he done doing extra though. He does do more than he needs to.

SPEAKER_01 8:41

Yeah, he's doing extra. You know what I'm saying? Like, come on now. Look, when they I was in the last year, you know, I'm not gonna lie. I'm a Laker fan,

Chicago Munchies: The Concept

SPEAKER_01 8:50

real talk. Laker fan. You know, you know what I'm saying? But the West. Hey, cuz you don't fuck with no Chicago teams. That's the funniest part. Hey, yes, I do. I'm a low-end nigga, so you know I fuck with the White Sox, that's all.

SPEAKER_04 9:02

That's that's bird in us. Yeah, we you can't not represent the you know, a socks or a cub.

SPEAKER_01 9:07

I don't give a fuck what's going on. Man, I can't stand a cub. The motherfucking roll over and die. I ain't gonna lie, I hate to say that. You ain't you ain't and then you know I blame my granddaddy too, because right, uh, could right he had me watching Ryan Sandberg and everybody. But no, man, I don't like the bears. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't like the bears.

SPEAKER_04 9:22

I don't like the I was just gonna say, man, the bears make you feel a certain I think you a Packers fan just because you hate the bears that much, nigga. Yeah, and you know something you gotta blame Strawden.

SPEAKER_01 9:32

This is your number one enemy. I'm gonna go over here. You gotta look, real talk, you gotta blame Straw them. No lie. Because no, I you know, when right yeah, they had the PlayStation one, you know what I'm saying? And they always got the bad, and they would kick my ass with every other team, so it got personal. You know what I'm saying? So it's all right. I've only had Brett Far. So I got in the game with Brett Far and I got to kick in the ass, though.

SPEAKER_04 9:55

You know, it's I mean way back, man.

SPEAKER_01 9:58

I'm talking about 30 years, dude. Hey, look, this is 30 years beat. Yeah, it's the reason behind this shit here. 30 years beat. They talk about no dude. I've been with them since they had Brad Far. You know something though, cuz though, let me say this here though. Real talk. You're more than just my cousin, man. You like my brother. You know what I'm saying? You know, I don't got no brothers. You like my brother in real life.

SPEAKER_04 10:23

That's truth.

SPEAKER_01 10:24

No lie. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04 10:26

Hey man, I recognize that when I when I I take that, sir. I love that. I love that, man. I appreciate you saying that because that's how really how family flows, man. We we got titles, like, you know, we technically who we is, but how we rock and how we is, you can't tell if you catch us in public. And I don't know if you want to dive too deep into it, but I'ma just say my memory. Right. Go ahead. So when you came home, what that was, oh eight.

SPEAKER_01 10:53

Hey, I wasn't thinking about that.

SPEAKER_04 10:54

Go ahead and see it. Know that run, you know I gotta go there, right? Right, go ahead. You know what I'm saying? So I touched, I gotta touch down on that, because for me, at that point in my life, see, cuz we gone. Right, I was in high school, I was writing them, we was getting our shit together, you know what I'm saying? Whatever, whatever. Cuz come home just a year, right after I graduate. I got my men's with me, we outside cooking. Oh my god. You know what I'm saying? I'm flying and ground through the city, I'm grown now, you know what I'm saying? I feel like it got damn motherfucker telling me no. The next best thing that can happen to me is motherfuckers telling me cuz on the way home. He on the way home. And I'm talking about as fast as they said you was home, nigga, you was here. True. Keeping it real.

SPEAKER_01 11:38

True. I know something though. I'm gonna tell you something. I remember exactly where we went to. You came in and got me, and then we won a rip crib. You know what I'm saying? I'm I remember that. I was I was just saying that.

SPEAKER_04 11:50

Who were you drinking, cuz?

SPEAKER_01 11:51

Oh, I forgot what we were drinking, though. You know what I'm saying? I was asked, huh? Black Hennessy. That's when I black Hennessy. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would hey, you know what something dope?

Live Sports Talk: Rockets vs OKC

SPEAKER_01 12:00

I'm like this shit, crazy. You know, and I was just talking, I was just telling myself that because I I want to talk about that. You know what I'm saying? Like, I remember when you told me, like, man, cuz it's my time, now this and that. You like, I got okay. I was feeling it. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04 12:15

So when you came back, yeah, it just completed everything. I'm like, this is my time and my big cup. And like, look, I felt like to finish the thought, nigga, I felt like now we can't lose because who I needed to be here in my corner in my ear, telling me, yeah, no, yes, you know what I'm saying? I don't need no yesterday and no shit around. I need motherfucker that's gonna keep it a beam. And then you know something else could be. That's how I felt, cause I felt like a new, a new, a new big brother came home. Not my big cousin, cause nigga, you from the gate, you weren't fucking around.

SPEAKER_01 12:43

You hear me? Hey, you know something? And I need to tell you thank you too. Cause when I was inside, I was hollering at you. I was calling you like, man, go watch here. Go watch your girl for me, go potato, and you was on top of all that for me, man. I appreciate that. Much love. I love you for all that that you did for me. We heard sound a little bit. Most definitely. I remember that. I was in eat smoling or eat a shiny one of them joints. And I'm like, man, my cuz told me that's all the cuz. It was all she wrote.

SPEAKER_04 13:09

I'm gonna keep it real. So you know Matt, right? Yeah, nigga, Matt. Matt was just over at where I'm at right now, my homie crickas. We all linked in. We all go way back, right? So my nigga Matt came over here on the same type of time, hit my boy up, like, man, where the fuck y'all niggas been? Whoop was won't. He come, we talking. He, hey, I know you remember when bow dah, dah. Ah, hell yeah, he. So you know who we was riding with? Hey, it was me. You all the time, right? And who we had with us, man. It was Matt, what it was, Matt. It was Matt. Okay, hold on, hold on, what can the West mad at though?

SPEAKER_03 13:43

Shit, Matt, what the fuck matter, man? Matt like in the bird, what the fuck mad at? Hey, we'll what Matt be your nine at, bro? What mess do you know? Like Sean Bird or some shit.

SPEAKER_04 13:56

It's like it's like Westbird or some shit like that, like a Sean Bird song. I remember that, man.

SPEAKER_01 14:04

They might tell you about Poland or something like that. You know what about the real one? Morgan. Uh Morgan, yeah, I knew it.

SPEAKER_04 14:09

Yeah. Right there on Morgan, man. Shit, he he brought you up like nigga. I remember taking them trips out to go see Pat. We had Henny with us and shit. Woom to woo-to-woom. And I ain't talking about the drink. Nigga, we used to ride around with this all black pit. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. That whole summer. I know you remember that shit, cuz my little puppy, man. Yeah. The nigga name was Henno because he was black. Right. And we had that black Hennessy bottle with us, and he was kicking it with us off that shit. And we looked at the nigga like, nigga, your name's finna be Henno. Cause we was drinking black and he was black as hell. Hey, boy, them were the days. Man, those were the days in real life. We pulled, I think, Orlando or something. We pulled up on Orlando crib or somebody, man. It was some basement, bro. We was drinking, we was kicking it, you was getting your bearings together, man. I just love to see, I just love to see at that time, cuz like, nigga, you just settling in. Motherfuckers looking at you like, like, I just love when I go around, cuz when I heard motherfuckers say your name.

SPEAKER_01 15:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 15:04

And the love that a nigga love to see you just not enough. You know? Yeah. Like, just love to see a nigga just not be there, not be in the position that he was just in. I could say your name and see your face at the same time.

SPEAKER_01 15:18

You know what I'm saying? Hey, see, that's why whenever something, hey, you already know how I'm calling you. You know what I'm saying? I'm calling in the dope, like whoop this and that. Yeah. I feel that, man. I swear to God, on my grandday, I was just talking about that. I'm like, man, I remember we was hanging real tough. You know what I'm saying? Like, real, real tough. Super. On everything. Here go, here goes AC, right? Yo, Barbara.

SPEAKER_04 15:41

She. Yeah, so where you was at? Because remember, shout out to Baby, but Baby used to cut everybody's hands, like, you know what I'm saying? And get us lace. She, where you was at all? I said, Oh, we was at the building. You know, baby looked the motherfucker up. She's still going down there. What's down there? What's up with that, you know? That's my mama. Remember, this is the last year they was up too. So you know everybody kind of just, you know, we scrambling around. We have but we ain't done all that shit, man. But you can't look, if these motherfuckers is up, these walls is up, niggas is gonna kick it, bro.

SPEAKER_01 16:12

Exactly, exactly. I just put a real up about the low end, man, like for real. Hey, but no though, man, that that's my OG too. Even when I came home, she was on that. Like, come on, mom, I'm not. I mean, don't okay, I respect okay, okay, okay. But I'd wait tonight. One night, right?

The Flop Era And SGA Debate

SPEAKER_01 16:30

I'm now now looking you know they are. Now you know what he had, right? So I'm outside, you know what I'm saying? And and and we gambling to broad daylight. Why shouldn't I win the watching? Like, come on, like, like, like for real.

SPEAKER_04 16:41

Like, like, somebody, all you see is a face.

SPEAKER_01 16:43

Yeah, that's all you see is a face.

SPEAKER_04 16:44

Right. Yeah, like flow, 2420. Right.

SPEAKER_01 16:49

Come on, now I mean, I'm I mean like for real.

SPEAKER_04 16:53

Yup. We got the start of the fourth quarter, OKC going on, man. Well, who up? MMI and shit. Them niggas been ballin' ball. Who win it, man?

SPEAKER_01 17:04

It's close game. Houston up too, man. Okay one eighty nine. But no something though, I got the Spurs to come out the West, though. I'm not gonna lie. All the way through? All the way through. I got the Spurs to come out the West. Ain't nobody stopping that big 17.

SPEAKER_04 17:18

That's a lot of that's a lot of people sleeper team. Or whatever, but why the sleeper team though? Think about last year. Was you saying that about them last year? No. No. You saying it's I'm gonna tell you why I'm saying that. So for me, I say sleeper because they they you seen them develop in real time. Nope. They whoop OKC as this shit three times. Nobody before the season.

SPEAKER_01 17:43

That's why I got nobody gonna say that shit. That's why I got them because they fucking OKC up. I don't know none of the Spurs, but they be OKC. That's all I know.

SPEAKER_04 17:54

They got that man over there that's about eight feet tall. Yeah, he eight feet ten. It's another team shooting threes, doing everything, right? Dunking on everybody, but it's another team in Texas that ain't going either. And that's Houston, man. Houston, man. Huh? Yeah. I got a boy. I just think that yeah, I had Dallas earlier because I thought Kyrie would do a little something to come back.

SPEAKER_01 18:16

Kyrie for the chill. Houston looking good, man. You know something? This is how bad it is for me. I don't even watch the Lakers no more. Hey, I also mad at Luca. Luca shot more. Hey, look, Luca shoot more than Michael George. He shoot, he shoot more than I'm talking about the man shoot more than Michael Jordan.

SPEAKER_04 18:38

Luca's gonna have he's gonna be averaging 50 shots a game, bro.

SPEAKER_01 18:42

Right. I was telling my boy, he's from Houston. You know what I'm saying? My boy. He from Houston. And he got them. You know what I'm saying? I told him, I'm like, man, he's talking about Lake Man, first of all. Appreciate you trying to uh lift my spirits. You know what I'm saying? I know my team ain't gonna do nothing. I don't care if they got LeBron, they can have AD, they can have Austin Reed and Lucas. As long as Lucas on any team, he won 44 shots. A game. A game. So right, we're not gonna do nothing. He ain't got no defense. Everybody blow pass him. You know what I'm saying? So it's like I it's like, okay. Everybody blow pass him. So I mean, I see why Dallas got rid of it.

SPEAKER_04 19:19

That's why they put them, you see, every every player like that, they get structured around him. Like the last player that wherever he went, they build a team around him, nigga. Braun. Right. Everybody know what Braun needs to win, right? He needs shooters, he needs a point guard, and he needs another nigga that's gonna like be able to handle a rock and get a couple points on his own. That's formerly he had was like Kyrie Cleveland deal. That's when him and Kyrie can go out there and get a 30-ball apiece. You got love on the side, a big man that can shoot and stretch, right? And another straight, just shooter, right? A just shooter. Braun needs to be able to just dish that bitch out to a few people. That's when that team we had, Ray Allen, shooter. You got Chris Barks, stretch big. You know what I'm saying? You got Kyrie, Kyrie, I mean not Kyrie, Kyle Lowry, Tanger Rock, B Wade, same as him. Uh, Miller, outside shooter. You know what I'm saying? And they bitch. Has on this shit, garbage niggas like Braun is one of them niggas that you gotta look at every point of your roster and like get them together. Cause he's gonna bring everything else. You just gotta get all that garbage shit. And that's how Luca is. You need a pick and roll big man, he can lobby to, another three, another three ball he can give it to, and he needs stretch wings. Niggas that can guard for him. So when he gets blown by, TJ Washington, pick up the pieces, you know what I'm saying? Lively, pick up the pieces. God damn it. Like all them people that when he glued by, you need good defenders

Lakers Frustrations And Luka Takes

SPEAKER_04 20:40

around Luca. Everybody on the team can guard for Luca, bro, because they know he's finna get beat. You know what I'm saying? But see, that's it. But he gonna do him on offense.

SPEAKER_01 20:47

I mean, I'm I'm I mean, I'm I mean, like, how can you be uh how can you be the point guard and the small four? You know what I'm saying? Like, dude, you know what I'm saying? It's just like I'm talking about scrub be blowing past the man, then they be doing any type of way, and then they talk trash to him. You know what I'm saying? So it's just like on the real. I love that shit, go ahead, gonna lie. You know what I'm saying? You can go and score your 40 Lucas, but we still gonna win because we're gonna beat you. You know what I'm saying? And it's like we got a double team. So I'll tell my boy Major, like, man, look, I don't even care. I don't understand this shit here, but at the same time, though, you know, I give. You know what I'm saying? I mean, like, and honestly, I fuck with LeBron. I'd rather him go like the clean. Or go somewhere else. That's too perfect.

SPEAKER_04 21:37

That's too perfect. And I feel like he thinks everybody thinks he's gonna do that. He the type of nigga that go against the ground. Just cause he feels like a motherfucker's gonna be like, Y'all think I'm doing that, huh? Yeah, true.

SPEAKER_01 21:47

But see, you know something.

SPEAKER_04 21:48

At the same time, I'll fuck with it. It's too late for the game. Personally, me, right? You can't ever let him judge what he'll do. Cause then nobody know he was gonna do that shit when he went back the first time.

SPEAKER_01 21:56

No, I'm not saying that. I'm see, see, you know something. That's how I'm saying it. See, see, I see, like my I I say, my boy Major. He said he's gonna play four or five more years. I said, no, he got one more year on, maybe two. He waiting on Bright's. And the baby is I'm gonna go to a team that's already built is because I want LeBron to come off the bench.

SPEAKER_04 22:15

See he was who he waiting on for?

SPEAKER_01 22:17

He waiting on Bright's son. He's gonna be the only player in the league. You know what I'm saying? I got everything. You know what I'm saying? Like real. You been seeing him lately? Huh? You been seeing him lately? Who? Bryce. No, he's decent or or or he fell off. I mean, he ain't got better. He kind of just waited. Oh, yeah, because he said he's better than Bronny. And Brian ain't really doing nothing. But I just want him to go somewhere. That's like, honestly, this real talk. In LA, he could stay on the bench. He's fucking up chemistry. You know what I'm saying? I don't care what nobody says. Let that man come off the bench and he could have won six men of the year. Feel what I'm saying? He could have won. That's how good he is. Let Luca do his thing. Put the five, put a four man around him, let Luca do his thing. You know what I'm saying? And you come off the bench and get your four men. You'll be the rawest motherfucker coming off the bench at 45 years old.

SPEAKER_04 23:13

You feel what I'm saying? Because he already he don't think like that because he already said. And that's crazy. You know, 14, 13, and shit like that. Who LeBron?

SPEAKER_01 23:26

No, he's gonna get 25. He got 25 and a half if he wanted to. He won't. Yeah, he got 25 and a half. But it's just the principle of how long? How long? Yeah, I mean, when he came back, I told I told people he needed to stay on the bench and come off the bench. See, what it is is the bench need help. Not to start in five, because they were doing good without LeBron. Once LeBron came back, that's when he fell off. See, both of them can't start together, LeBron and Luca. Because what I'm saying, Luca already got Luca already putting up LeBron shot. So at the same time, LeBron, you come off the bench, get you 19 shots, and then you can be the main focus. Ain't nobody on the bench gonna give you 20 points a game. That's all I'm saying. But no, though, let me ask you a question though. How the family doing though? How my little cousin them doing, man?

SPEAKER_04 24:21

Big as hell.

SPEAKER_01 24:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 24:23

Y'all, everybody good though, man. Love bless, you know what I'm saying? Right. But growing, bro. Yeah. Growing. Alright, bro. You know, older. Starting to start to see him like stretch out and and seeing other family members when they see him like, boy, you getting bigger. You getting you know what I'm saying? Yeah. It's all love, bro. Like we growing like a motherfucker. True, true, true.

SPEAKER_01 24:50

Now, now, are you putting this podcast here? I mean, are you putting the podcast lick that right? I've been telling you about most definitely.

SPEAKER_04 24:58

It's a nice flow, man. Yeah. Exactly. Like, like, like we can go on the topic, you can do something, talk about any and everything, and promote. And like I told you before, we got a lot of shit coming up on location. We'll be live on location pretty soon.

SPEAKER_01 25:13

Okay. No, because you know why I'm asking. I want you to do this more with me. You know what I'm saying? Ain't nothing like having family and doing it like this here. You know, both of us can stay in tune with each other. You know what I'm saying? Like, like, like, it's like you got a lot of things you tell me that you got going on. And then on family, so of course I'm I'm right there with you. You know what I'm saying? So I want you more. Everything you got going on, the restaurant, the media, the photography, the whole nine yards. You know what I'm saying? So I want you to be on here more often. Now, I mean, I told you we can do a Monday through Friday, you know what I'm saying? Or either three days a week, you know what I'm saying? So, so, so, so, so, so, cuz though, I mean, now you know I'm waiting on my trail, you know what I'm saying? And we're gonna be three amigos. You feel

LeBron, Legacy, And Bench Theory

SPEAKER_01 26:00

me? Hell yeah. So, so so tell me something about the restaurant that's out west now.

SPEAKER_04 26:08

Oh, uh, it's original. Uh-huh. It's family-oriented. It's one of them like it's one of them, it's one of them states like pull up, pull up, you get the vibe instally type thing. It's Chicago based, like Chicago feel, you know what I mean? Got that simple menu. So the twist from Italian beef, you switch from the beef, you put the chicken in there. So it's called a chicken Italian, you know what I'm saying? You put that on a potato, put that on fries, you put that on motherfucking chips. No, we can't put it on. On not on chips, man. Oh wow. Got the nacho leg one too. So the whole means just switch up off of that same just base uh of the other of the chicken. Okay. You know what I'm saying? And how it's made. And it's called Chicago Munchies.

SPEAKER_01 27:01

Okay, and where's that at?

SPEAKER_04 27:05

Yes, sir, yeah, right. Located from our Chicago people. From Chicago people's located central division. Hey, y'all here. Restaurant street from the gas station. Black onficial official is a 1206 North Central Avenue. Chicago of the north, 60651. I'm saying over from 10 to 10. Black on to Monday.

SPEAKER_01 27:32

Black on.

SPEAKER_04 27:34

Black. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:35

You know, Chicago Monty said. See, you know something dope. I ain't gonna lie, I'm sitting here smoking and everything. And I'm trying to see ain't cuz thin no Italian beefs, ain't no pizza puffs, ain't no gyros, ain't no black food here. We ain't got a Popeyes.

SPEAKER_04 27:56

You know what's so crazy? That's the that's the number one thing motherfuckers say when they leave the city. Real.

SPEAKER_01 28:04

I'll be sitting here and was in Houston.

SPEAKER_04 28:07

Number one thing from Chicago that a motherfucker would like talk to my homie real. You know what I'm saying? Chicago, Chicago, born Chicago, real, right? Moved to Houston for some food for a few years. The nigga say one of the one of the the uh you got the Houston scene where the food's good, right? Everybody knows you go to another city, it's cool, right? You get a different vibe, but it ain't shit like where we from. I could be biased all I want, but it's biased is true, nigga. That's not being biased. The number one thing you gonna miss is just the style of the food and how we do it, bro. Like how you can get it, where you can get it, the time you can get it, the way we cook it, like how much it costs, like the sauce, like all that shit.

SPEAKER_01 28:50

See, because though Houston got that type of food though, even though it ain't like ours and made like ours, they have that Italian beats, they have gyros, they have nachos. We ain't have we don't got none of that. We don't got a motherfucking pop-yeah.

SPEAKER_04 29:07

It's a couple of gyros, but they ain't gonna hit, but ain't no ain't no beefs out there.

SPEAKER_01 29:11

But see, but see, they don't got no tight beefs. No, okay, but still though, they got something because of AG, we don't have they got restaurants, because of we don't have that 81. We got bar, g. I'm gonna tell bar last night.

SPEAKER_04 29:27

Hold on, bro. You know, my like I say, my boy was in Houston, lived, right? You know what I'm saying? Live that 10 years, lived the whole life and everything from Chicago, migrated to Houston back in Chicago, so we in it from the horse's mouth type shit. Right, you know what I'm saying? He says zero Italian beasts, and we see us my guy rolling for the cut that off the edge.

SPEAKER_01 29:49

Huh? I am right. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Hold on, hold on, hold on, put him by the hey, hey, hey, put him by the mic, man. Okay, what do you say? We right here, he can hear you. They cut it off the what?

SPEAKER_05 30:03

You lie, you lie. Yeah, it's like that motherfucker. I don't know where it comes from, but it don't come off the it don't come off the right, you know like how that motherfucker be spinning, right? It ain't lamb meat. No, they don't got that. No, it's lamb meat, but I don't know where they're getting the lamb meat from, though. It's different, it's like chopped lamb meat. Uh it's weird though, it ain't the same.

SPEAKER_01 30:20

Hey, we don't even have that out here. We don't have no type of uh black post food.

SPEAKER_05 30:24

You wouldn't you wouldn't want it because it's like uh you're gonna taste it and be like, that ain't what I'm looking for, so they might as well not have it. Yeah, that's only good to avoid that. That's like somebody coming out here going to the wrong hurls. They don't know no better.

SPEAKER_01 30:38

That's like I don't

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SPEAKER_01 30:40

see real talk. I don't do heralds no more. I do J and J's or either sharks. Now, hurls is it's old school. I came up there up, but last year I came up there. My herald chicken was extra hard. You know what I'm saying? So so I'm like a shock dude.

SPEAKER_05 30:54

Yeah, you got which one you go to, though. Yeah, true, true, true.

SPEAKER_04 30:57

That's our number one rule. What where you go?

SPEAKER_05 31:00

It depends on where you get the hurls from. Yeah, you gotta go, you gotta go right there where it's like 50. You ready to lose your life and 50 getting your food, yeah. Like you you you in the middle of the losing your life or just getting your food. No part ain't no part. You're gonna call it. Listen, you gotta this you gotta go to the one where you call and they say 20 minutes, and then still don't drop your shit until you get there. That's the one you gotta go to.

unknown 31:28

Right.

SPEAKER_04 31:29

Hey, they say, ah, we're gonna call you 20.

SPEAKER_01 31:31

Yeah, I swear to God, your shit still ain't ready for 15 more minutes. Hey, and then but but no, something though. I'm gonna be honest with you though, but it's it's kind of sad though. We ain't got no sober. Hey, we ain't got no black people food.

SPEAKER_05 31:47

I ain't got no black people food. Nah. What's black people food? Cause that's the difference. Like, like we just say we ain't no Chicago, but like, what's black people food?

SPEAKER_01 31:57

Black man, we ain't got no no Popeyes, we ain't got no uh uh that's like uh uh no no Maxwell, no soul food joints, they know, but here no soul food joints. I'm talking about the soul food, the ribs, me and my boy Poss. We the it's like we the cooks out here, like like me, I can get away with my food and everything. You know what I'm saying? So right I huh?

SPEAKER_04 32:22

Let it file? That's why I see you grilling all the time. Yeah, I'm always grilling, and then I be getting my food.

SPEAKER_01 32:26

Man, listen, I'm hey, hey, Peppin, let me tell you something. They don't they never had no jerk chicken, they only got a jerk chicken spot out here. Never had jerk until ain't no black spoke food out here at all. Because he was running, right? We got Mexican to him. I'm saying we got Mexican joints, and then we got Mexican and bars, and they chicken, and and then you know how and and you know black folk food or city food, you get a whole wing. These motherfuckers cutting off the I'm talking about party wings for $30, $18.

SPEAKER_04 33:02

Because you going to the barn, that's all they got out here.

SPEAKER_01 33:06

We ain't got no ain't no all you can eat spots, ain't ain't no uh uh uh uh uh uh uh Maxwell, ain't no soul food joints, ain't I mean ain't ain't no sharks, ain't no J and J's, ain't no Harold's.

SPEAKER_04 33:21

So what's the biggest? So I let's let's let's do this. Let's do this. Let's talk from a Chicago okay Chicago nigga perspective.

SPEAKER_00 33:28

I come out uh but they got like chicken like French, that's the eight shit. Like everybody still gonna go to the big no I'm in a boom doc.

SPEAKER_01 33:36

I'm in a bone doc.

SPEAKER_04 33:37

Uh be an hour from the twins and shit. From who? From the twins, twins, what minus minute?

SPEAKER_01 33:42

No, I'm two and a half hours away. Two and a half, nigga? Yeah. I'm two and a half hours from the airport.

SPEAKER_04 33:48

Huh? You Champagne, Chicago, so so you so you get the O'Hare and you gotta drive some motherfucking Champagne.

SPEAKER_01 33:59

Hey,

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SPEAKER_01 34:00

hey, look, the airport, the airport that hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Yeah, I mean, that's the same stretch.

SPEAKER_04 34:13

When you think about it. Chicago people. Yeah. You land in no hair, your cousin pick you up and say, all right, we finna go to the crib, and he tell you, I live in Champaign.

SPEAKER_01 34:27

Right.

SPEAKER_04 34:28

You don't know no better. You like, all right, shit, let's ride. You tell the nigga we gotta we got a little ride, cuz hey, and then let's say because you play up here, right?

SPEAKER_01 34:38

That's why I'm mad at Lil Tony. That's why I'm mad at Lil Tony. You know how to drive to go pick him up? Nigga, I don't do the interstate. And Gab with three, and Gab with two matter of fact, Gab was three dollars or something at the time. You know what I'm saying? So so so so I'm riding, I'm talking about a hundred something miles to get my nephew, you know what I'm saying? Then had to drive. Then remember on what it was, uh uh uh uh uh uh what the seven what was that 420? I sent it with the guys. I talked to you. Then I talk, I told you, like, man, I sent Tony with the guy. The man called me here, Uncle, I'm about to die.

SPEAKER_04 35:18

That was too much for him. Yeah, no saying so so right. That's the same thing for anybody that'll come there. Cause like not anybody, let's take that guy. That's that's that's the opposite, because somebody else will come there and lose a nine. You gotta pull back. Because guess what? You come out there and you playing in the snow, man, like right away. Yeah, the same way you talk about ain't got no restaurants. You go out there and that's all you see out there, right? You know, yeah, you gotta know how to move or you'll get caught up in something that's really supposed to be caught up in.

SPEAKER_01 35:54

Hey D. I went to the city for this nigga here. I ain't gonna even lie, like five times. Two and a half, two and a half to go get him, two and a half to bring him back. That's half the day. That's five hours. Then I sent him down there with the guys. Went to go get him. That bitch looking like he just uh so so so so right. You know how frustrated I was. And I'm telling you, like, man, look, the nigga ain't cut like us, man. You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna keep it real. Like, like, man, I don't do man, listen, because uh, we I'm two and a half hours away from if you flew up here and I came at you, that's what I had to drive.

SPEAKER_04 36:35

See, that's what it'll do. That's what we do, man. That's that's what we do. Learn from it, but you have to he have to go through that. So, how often you go to the city then, nigga, since you're not I don't go to the cities, man.

SPEAKER_01 36:49

The only time I go to the cities, listen, I gotta drive an hour to get my hair cut. No bullshit, and that's in St. Cloud. I drive an hour to get my hair cut. If I go to the city, I gotta. No, see, see, see, I'm not in the cities. You're not in where the mall of America is. No, no, that's like when y'all came through. I told y'all that's like a two and a half, three hour ride for me. It is. No, no lie, and and then and and then like it's just like that's by the airport. So, right, literally, you know what I'm saying, that's two hours and 45 minutes. Because whenever I fly Chicago, I man, I get dropped off. I ain't gonna lie, I get dropped off done and I pay him up for six, I pay him up for like sixty five dollars, seven dollars drop me off. And then, you know what I'm saying, it's just like you said, do I ever go to the city? Nope. I order all my clothes online, order my shoes online, or either I call my sister, tell her, I send the money, buy me this here. You know what I'm saying? I'm I mean like I went to the cities what last what last month because I had to take an IME on my shoulder, you know what I'm saying? And and then I want to spend the night. If I go down there to the city, I'm not coming right back. I gotta spend the night. That's why my nephew got a blessing. I don't do that. Then plus, you know what I'm saying? I don't like riding past lakes and shit. You know what I'm saying? I'm from the city, I'm not from the country. So yeah, I mean, I'll be so I be dead serious shit.

SPEAKER_04 38:24

You know?

SPEAKER_01 38:25

This nigga here, man. We go, we uh yeah, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04 38:32

So I ain't gonna lie, man. Your boy is okay. Man, hey, yeah. Lucky ain't there. We got San Antonio coming up next against Davis when we got another one. Who?

SPEAKER_01 38:48

He said the Spurs versus the Mavericks. Spurs against the Mavericks. I got the Spurs. Okay. Ain't nobody stopping that 810 dude, man. Man, he's gonna treat A D. Matter of fact, matter of fact, I heard right, AD got traded. I don't know how true it is though, but at the same time, huh?

SPEAKER_04 39:08

Huh? It's a hundred million thousand percent true. So we're gonna do the sports leg. So for the new trays, you know, AD over there with Trey, with Trey Young and I in Washington. For real? So they trying to, yeah, he and he with the Wizards. They swapped him out. The Dallas got a whole lot of picks, a whole lot of, you know, they trying to do something build Cooper flag up.

unknown 39:25

Right.

SPEAKER_04 39:25

The Bulls and did a whole lot of bullshit. You know what I'm saying? So they got a lot of guards, they got rid of Kobe. We uh grabbed Jaden Jaden Ivy from Detroit. We got a thousand guards, and they got Vocci Man, they got rid of them. You know what I'm saying? Oh, he was balls later. Yeah, I know I'm saying it right, but uh yeah, he's gone. Yeah, got rid of him.

SPEAKER_01 39:53

He snapped in balls.

SPEAKER_04 39:56

Yeah, so that was probably our best play.

SPEAKER_10 40:00

I see they got rid of Kobe.

SPEAKER_04 40:07

That's a cold last year. But um,

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SPEAKER_04 40:11

but uh, we got Giddy, they're gonna try to play with him, pause, you know what I'm saying? And they're gonna try to do a lot of other little shit with. I don't know what they're gonna do with these guards. It seemed like they're trying to gather a lot of shit, but they got what they got is guards that's kind of like on their second leg. Also, like your organization gave you up, and we're gonna try to fix you and shit. Because what the bulls do is a Chicago nigga, man. The bulls do. I've been watching the sports since I can remember. In 96 was a time I remember my brain understanding bulls basketball when I saw Mike Nowin. Right, nigga, all they do is get the stars, get rid of them. Them niggas go to other teams to win rings, and we get washed up motherfuckers, and we try to build them back up, or we draft bogus. Right. Or we get a motherfucking gym dropped in our lap and Derek Rose, nigga. That's it. Mike dropped in our lap. Because you know what I'm saying, we know it's a big bigger.

SPEAKER_01 41:05

But see, you know something, though, they treated dad Rose bogusly, man, like for real. And then I didn't appreciate that. You know, like, like, and see, that was Chicago do. You know what I'm saying? They be treating their stars. That's why I don't fuck with the bulls no more. I don't fuck with the bass no more. You know what I'm saying? Or the cuz. Right. We done had teens.

SPEAKER_04 41:24

You gotta know how to handle it. Cause I hey look, the people that's running them organizations, they act just like niggas that's in Chicago, bro. Ain't really that shit like, hey, bad. Look, we get a motherfucker, we gonna play them good, and now we just gotta keep this shit afloat. But the fact of it is, we gonna come. We're gonna come to the games, bro. We're gonna we gonna show up to the motherfucking uh to me events. Like the bears gonna sell out, bulls gonna sell out. Black hawks, they kept it alive for a while. You know what I'm saying? Them folks over there, they love that shit. That's gonna sell out. We got what else? The Cubs, you know, they stamp. Socks bullshit.

SPEAKER_01 41:59

Hey, you know what, man? We won a world series, man. They trade the whole team. I don't shoot. I must have socks leaders.

unknown 42:07

Good point.

SPEAKER_01 42:08

Hey, I mean, I'm I'm I mean, we won them up from World Series, man. I remember Midland was going to the stadium. They won a World Series, they had Bobton in the whole nine yards. The whole team was wrong. They won it, man. They won the title.

SPEAKER_04 42:24

Oh yeah, they did. Like when we won at 05, that was like a surprise and shit.

SPEAKER_01 42:30

Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So they wanna they got rid of the whole team.

SPEAKER_04 42:33

That you need one-on-one, so we need to spread it out. They need a whole team, man. But um they just make it hard to get you. They make they make it, they make it hard for uh for you to like keep keep rooting because you ain't building no core, you know what I'm saying? Right here. That's what they've been missing. That's what Houston's been missing all year, man. Damn. We got hey, we got our boy live, live, live look in at the OKC Houston game, fourth quarter, minute left, right? Houston up, Houston up six. So you got SGA now playing. My man's on the side, on the bench, with a full-length leopard, chinchilla, meek.

unknown 43:26

Uh uh.

SPEAKER_04 43:30

Nah, we're talking about SGA, your favorite player, bro. Nah, that's your favorite player player.

SPEAKER_01 43:33

Hold on, hold on, ho, ho, ho. You said you said that's your favorite player.

SPEAKER_04 43:37

I say your favorite player. Shout out to your favorite player, bro. Who?

SPEAKER_01 43:42

I know you ain't say that name. Hey, look. Hey, look, his act be walking down the street, I would throw banana peel outside.

SPEAKER_04 43:47

Who is your favorite player, by the way? For the Brown. Still, right now.

SPEAKER_01 43:53

Yeah, still right now. That nigga, hey, that man 55, playing half, he's playing better than half the lead. And see what he's doing is real talk, he's letting the Lakers know they fucked up by trading off AD.

SPEAKER_04 44:07

Yeah, like don't say nothing. What do you say? That's cool. Because he's a Lakers fan. So I mean, what's gonna keep it? We're gonna hold it there. But you say LeBron, right? Do we should we have LeBron join discussion? Or we don't we ain't gonna do that. Yeah, we can. For what we for why though? Cuz what we're

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SPEAKER_04 44:30

side we doing? Like we we ain't gotta have it because everybody know, or you fin you finna do this? We can do this.

SPEAKER_01 44:39

Don't do that, man. I got that enough, man. My barber talk, man. Listen, we can do this here. See, you know something. Listen, hold on. Hold on, hold on, hold on. See, see, look, I'm like Isaiah Thomas. You know what I'm saying? Isaiah Thomas, keep it real. What?

SPEAKER_04 44:54

All right, listen, nah. No, hell here we go. I got one. No.

SPEAKER_01 45:00

I got one. He says MJ the goat, and he ain't playing nobody. Everybody MJ played with doing drugs. Everybody MJ played with the weed you smoking out there, man. Huh? Man, listen. Matter of fact, hold on. No, C C C C look. I went this for the longer.

SPEAKER_04 45:19

Who didn't know you was going this route? Hey, man, real. You being a cheese head is enough.

SPEAKER_01 45:25

Hey, I see, she knows something. I seen Mike fly in the fly in the sky. Call that man Black G.

SPEAKER_04 45:33

What's wrong with you?

SPEAKER_01 45:36

Look, honestly, Mike didn't beat nobody that was a real goon. Keep it real. Keep it real. You want to talk about Kevin Duckworth? All right, let me ask you the glide real quick.

SPEAKER_04 45:51

Huh? You said that. Let me get back on that one. Okay, go ahead. You said he never beat nobody that was a real goon.

SPEAKER_01 45:56

I said it and I stand on it.

SPEAKER_04 45:58

Okay. Hold that. Hold that. What's the toughest era of basketball, in your opinion? The 80s. Who the fuck played in the 80s? Mike. Besides Magic Johnson and Larry Fuckingberg.

SPEAKER_01 46:10

And Michael Jordan. And Isaiah Thomas. So hold on no no. You open these doors up. When Mike get drafted, though? Um 84, 86, 85, something like that. So my question is. 85. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 46:25

That's not the 80s, man. He he so his really, his rookie year went through 86. If a nigga was born in 85, you gonna say he made it through the 80s?

SPEAKER_01 46:34

Listen, listen.

SPEAKER_04 46:35

I mean, I'm just saying, I didn't know.

SPEAKER_01 46:37

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 46:39

You got it. So you're gonna skip over magic. I'm not skipping over magic. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:43

I'm not I'm not never skipping over magic. I'm not never skipping on magic. I'm not never skipping on neither one of them. And they're gonna make my and they made my point for me. You know what I'm saying? See, just like you said, though. So wait, so so so so right. I got a question for you. No, no, so so so so I so I need to ask you a question. You say that, first of all, you said what is the hardest area that a basketball.

SPEAKER_04 47:09

What's the what's the toughest area of the basketball? The toughest area, yeah. You said the 80s. The 80s, the 80s. Them niggas could kill anybody that ever played basketball. That's what you're saying.

SPEAKER_01 47:20

Hold on, I'm I'm I'm just hurt that you said anybody can kill.

SPEAKER_04 47:24

Oh, you say anybody from 1980, anybody that played from 1980 to 1989, any player that ever played in that stretch, right? They could kill anybody that ever played basketball.

SPEAKER_01 47:38

Who is they? Who is they? Tell me who they is.

SPEAKER_04 47:42

I'm asking you because you said that's the toughest era of basketball.

SPEAKER_01 47:45

It is, it is, and then you know something else. But see, you know something though about the 80s, and it's real talk. They gave Mike the mantle his first year. They gave they getting the mantle the first year. Now he faced Larry Burry. You said they gave him the mantle, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 48:01

It was Michael Jordan in the NBA the first time he played in the in the in the in the first game he played in the NBA.

SPEAKER_01 48:09

And then Larry Burry said he looked like God floating at in Gym Shorts.

SPEAKER_04 48:12

The first game of the NBA that Mike ever played, he was the best player in the NBA, true, and I'm not doubting that.

SPEAKER_01 48:20

I give him his pop, you're right about that. But the best player, who did he beat? He didn't beat Magic.

SPEAKER_04 48:26

Every nigga that you just said was the best in the era. No, but see all them to get through to where he had none.

SPEAKER_01 48:33

But see, but see, he unless but see, you're right, he had to go through them. But did he beat any one of them though? That's the question you need to answer.

SPEAKER_04 48:40

One of them, huh? Bird ass. Who be magic ass first ring? Who man, magic had eight. Kick kick Isaiah Thomas off when he didn't even want to shake his motherfucking hand. He's he got he gave him sour grapes. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 48:54

Oh wow, cuz though, don't have you go in, cuzzo. No, some okay, okay, okay, oh, okay. You said your people now. Let me see my face. Okay, look. You say he beat Bird Wing. What year he beat Bird? The man score 63 and got swept. Okay, he beat his ass. He told him he looked like he beat magic.

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SPEAKER_01 49:10

See, listen, he beat magic, but magic didn't have nobody. The legged I'm not I see. It wasn't like hold on, hold on, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, the needle, hold on. He beat magic. I'm saying he beat magic. But see, he beat magic. He didn't beat, but see, magic was magic when he had Kareem Adul Jabbar.

SPEAKER_04 49:31

No fuck.

SPEAKER_01 49:32

He done had it. Magic beat Bird when Bird didn't have no body. I ain't saying he never beat Bird.

unknown 49:37

What?

SPEAKER_01 49:37

No, Mike never beat Bird before. Who told you that? Hold on. Who never beat Bird before? When had Mike ever beat Bird in the playoffs?

SPEAKER_04 49:46

Oh, we said magic. No, no, no, no, no. See, see, see the two different conferences. Who ain't had nobody see look? We don't want to hear that. No had nobody see. When you look at the records and they say this team went against this team, and that's a W next to them, I don't give a fuck who's on that roster. Hey, nigga, you know.

SPEAKER_01 50:04

So, so so so what then? Okay, you said so, okay. I feel that. So let me ask you this question here. You say when Mike was in the playoffs, losing the Cleveland Cavaliers, Elo, Craig Elo, and all on right, and Mark pricing them. Was it a goat then? Yeah. So so so what then? Okay, so what then? When he was losing to Larry Bird, shooting, scoring C three points, going through his legs, and again swept. Was it a goat then?

SPEAKER_04 50:31

Yeah, yeah. You talk for me. You talking for me. No, I'm not. I ain't gonna be like. Because no what? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You said that. But see, watch right now to this day when highlights Mike going through his legs, skirt, skirt, skirt, skirt. And then what happened? And what happened? I thought I just saw God out there.

SPEAKER_01 50:49

But see, what happened though? He did, he did. But see, what happened though? He won't bless for no win. He got swept. No, Mike.

SPEAKER_04 50:58

That's cool. What you mean it's cool? Braun got swept twice in the fucking playoffs in the finals, nigga.

SPEAKER_01 51:04

But see, you know, so and then that's my point. He did. But see, Braun. See, and he had somebody. Who?

SPEAKER_04 51:11

And he had somebody. He got his ass beat.

SPEAKER_01 51:14

The only time Braun got swept in the playoffs was matter of fact, it was two teams. It was the Spurs. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, he playoffs, correct? That would make the champion. That would make the man. See, everybody love Mike for Duncan. It took Phil Jackson to say this here. You want scoring titles, or right, you want rings. Pass the ball, Mike. Pass the ball. That's why they told you. We're not trying to hear that shit. And that's why they told you. Pass the ball for the ball. Luca.

SPEAKER_04 51:44

No, no, no, see, see, see, see, see, see, no son, no. See, see, see, see, see. He did. And he still finished the biggest thing.

SPEAKER_01 51:51

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, he did. No, he did. That's when the triangle came, the triangle. That's when they had Pippen and Horace Grant.

SPEAKER_04 52:00

That's cool.

SPEAKER_01 52:01

So so when then that means that Mike, you gotta pass the ball if you want to win. Like he passes to John Paxton. Huh? So let's do this. Okay, go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 52:10

So when I said, so let's pull it back.

SPEAKER_01 52:12

Okay, pull it back.

SPEAKER_04 52:13

When I asked you the toughest era of basketball, it's an 80s. And you told me that. That's the golden era. So that means all them niggas, right? If I pull a starting five. If I pull a starting five, if I put a starting five from the 80s, and you could put him against anybody that ever plays, then they gonna win. That's what you're saying, because that's the toughest era.

SPEAKER_01 52:38

See, first of all, you gotta break that down even more. You say if you put who again, if you get a starting five, pick.

SPEAKER_04 52:44

Anybody pick anybody from 1980 to 1989. Because that's the toughest era

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SPEAKER_04 52:50

of basketball to you, right? Yeah. So I could pick any, you could pick any one of them niggas to play against anybody before or after the 80s. And they gonna win in your mind.

SPEAKER_01 53:04

I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that at all. No, no, no. See, see, see, see, tough means the hardest. That's how I'm saying the hardest era. Because you know what I'm saying? They were fighting, they were on elbows.

SPEAKER_04 53:17

So, what's the best era of players that you think got the best talent? The 80s.

SPEAKER_01 53:21

The 80s, no matter how no, no, I take it back. No, no, no, no, no, no, I take it back. I take that back. You said talent-wise, yeah, I gotta go with the 2000s. Talent-wise. Because you know why? The shit they doing now, we had them people calling all types of trowels and the he done jumped to Mars. It's a difference. The talent is different. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04 53:44

All them niggas' favorite players. Everybody favorite. Who who every who everybody's favorite player that you just named? I mean, that you just said. So everybody in the 2000s.

SPEAKER_01 53:56

Not everybody in 2000 like Mike, man. Honestly. Man, you lying. Every kid, could you know why? It's people our age that say that. The younger generation don't say they like Mike. The young people say they like LeBron, Steph, and KD, and Luca and Giannis.

SPEAKER_04 54:13

Because they don't know nothing, man. Don't know how to do that. How can you say that?

SPEAKER_01 54:16

Now see it's generations. I like it. It's just like a lot of people love Copis.

SPEAKER_04 54:22

It's generations. It's records. Huh? It's your peers. When Mike walked through that greatest, what they do, the greatest 50, what that shit was 50, 100, whatever player that was. Who might never scored a hundred? When they had them jackets on? No, when they did the ceremony for the greatest oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. All star gang, yeah. 75 for the greatest 75 players.

SPEAKER_01 54:43

Yes, top 75 players.

SPEAKER_04 54:44

They said when Mike walked in that room, everybody got cried, boy. Who said that? And party and man, go watch any interview of that of that of that of that ceremony. You know something.

SPEAKER_01 54:55

When they all them, all of them had them jackets on. Let me tell you something. And the famous words are Mike. Hit me out. You know, I just sit back and I just have to say, man. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Hit me out. Hit me out. I'm gonna tell you from a famous dude from Chicago, West Side nigga, Isaiah Thomas. Y'all sit there and then the debate is real and it's raw and it's uncut. Niggas got personal beats. No, it's not something going on. No something. Mike got some personal bees. No, no, no, no. And and these are facts. He laid it out. Hey, let's keep it the same. Hey, hey, hey, I say the same thing. But see, at the same time, though, a lot of people don't know that. Mike was the first one to complain to the league about being foul. That's been going on for generations. Dr. J was getting hacked like that. He wasn't being fouled though. Who wasn't? He was getting his ass beat, man. The same way with Isaiah, he was getting it from Boston. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04 55:58

Like that. What? Boston is the one that created it. Boston. It wasn't nothing. It was nothing.

SPEAKER_01 56:06

No, no, no, because no way. No, because no why. Isaiah rules, because I'm saying Mike was better than Isaiah. But see, at the same time, though, this black nigga coming here finna make us worldwide. You understand what I'm saying? Mike finna take us to the next generation. Mike, he flying in the air. This is a black dude with some little ass shorts on flying across the street. You feel what I'm saying? I'm like, for real, this nigga flying. Hey,

MJ vs LeBron: The Firestarter

SPEAKER_01 56:30

on one of them showies that would look it up to him, like, wow. You know what I'm saying? No lot. So how could you do it, cuz? Because you know why? What Braun do for you? Brian, matter of fact, having the one of this shit for me.

SPEAKER_04 56:41

It's no honesty for you. I'm talking about like for a sport. Like, when you see, you say you saw Mike. So when Braun came, what Braun do to make you be like, all right, that's almost like pause, right? That's almost like a motherfucker. Like, you got your lady, and then you see another, and you say, Man, she the one, she the one. And then you see another motherfucker, you be like, oh shit, hold on. Like, she won't get your attention. So, so somebody had to get my attention.

SPEAKER_01 57:07

Up in so many words. Up in so many words, uh, okay, oh, okay, up in so many words, right? It's just like this here. I'm gonna use Charles Oakley example. He said, when he was playing with Mike, he can shoot the ball. Now they asked him, if you had your son, who would you want to be like? He said, I already won't. Mike is my best friend, but as far as being a ball player, I want my son to be like LeBron because LeBron makes everybody win. See, Mike was hitting motherfuckers, Mike was smacking mothers around. First of all, it's not your team, the J Ryan's team.

SPEAKER_04 57:43

That's cool, man. No, it ain't cool. How's that cool? Because what we doing this for?

SPEAKER_01 57:49

What we doing is for to win. But see, first of all, they weren't winning. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. See, see, no something though. Let me prove something to you. See, see, see, no something you want to know fans that believe Mike was God. Mike was just a uh Mike was Jesus. Because no I'm because no one. If Mike was that goal, hold on, hear me out, hear me out. He was hey hey, hey, hey, see, see, see now I'm gonna bring this down to you. I'm gonna break this down to you. If Mike didn't have no help, they wouldn't have won no ring because honestly, he he been the lead. Matter of fact, no, it took him seven years to win a ring. You know what I'm saying? It took him seven years to win the never been to the final. Every time he went to the playoffs, first round, they got swept. He couldn't have been that cold.

SPEAKER_04 58:43

Okay, what happened to Barn the first time he went to the finals? I said the playoffs. The finals, not the playoffs?

SPEAKER_01 58:50

No, the final pass the that's a championship. I'm talking the first round. Cleveland was sweeping them boys. Boston was sweeping them boys. Indiana Reggie Miller was sweeping them. Man, New York.

unknown 59:04

Come on, come on, Cusho.

SPEAKER_01 59:06

Come on, cuz don't do that, man. I love this debate. That's like me being in the barbershop, and I keep it real with him because I watched that. I'm like, believe me. Only thing Mike did for motherfucker was gave him some shoes.

SPEAKER_04 59:18

You said what? Hold on, repeat that shit.

SPEAKER_01 59:21

Only thing Michael Jeffrey Jordan did was gave a motherfucker some shoes. He put some shoes out there. That's it. And then two, three, four hundred dollars now. That's crazy. That nigga shoot, man. Man, look, I was trying to buy some George one time, man. Hey, wido.

SPEAKER_04 59:40

Listen, you think you think you think a motherfucker's gonna buy some shit? Hold on. How much brown shoes is then? 240. Hold on, time out. If he's pulling his hold on, no, that's enough for it. No, but you and I ain't see you do nothing.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:00

What? What? What what what hey man, listen.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:05

What? Let's make this point clear though. You just said some shoes. I'm gonna slide right back to it. Okay, you're gonna slide right back to them shoes. Would you pay if you go in the store and you look at something on the shelf and it costs $400 and you look at something on the shelf and it costs $100? What you think got the best value to it? And that buyer's opinion. If I'm trying to sell you something that costs more money, right? And it's the same product. We're talking about shoes. It's two pairs of shoes, one costs $400, what about what's wild? I didn't say, no, hold on. You said if I'm saying product for more money, that means the value is higher. Okay, but his shoes is a lot for nothing and all that. Nigga, his shoes is what it is because he who he is. If I put out some shoes right now and just put my name on the motherfuckers and put them next to Mike shit, and be like, he just talked about him for some shoes. Nigga, it's the name. My shit costs a lot because of what he did. Mike put out some shoes.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:04

I'll tell you again. How can you name him the goat and he ain't got the most rings? That's all I understand that.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:10

People call him in the goat and he got six rings. Don't nobody got no Kareem's on their feet. Who don't nobody got no Will Chamberlain's on their feet, right? So first of all, that makes you the goat and bronze outside in the makes you the goat. It's the greatest for real. For real. That should make you the goat.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:27

Greatest of all time. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's greatest of all time. We ain't talking about on the side because if um if on that case, body and bathroom. Hold on, hold on, okay. So right look you want so so right, look. So right look man. So so I look you want to bring up, he got shoes jerseys, shoes he has shoes, the nigga commercials want to be like Mike.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:47

Nigga, my son wants to wear shoes, Michael Jordan's shoes. He eight years old. He don't know a fuck thing about Michael Jordan because no I he never seen him, never heard of him, never do nothing because it's somebody else.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:01

Because no generation is who said about bronze? It could be some dunks like me. I got a female, give me up, like though.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:15

I hate guess what dunks look like, man. They they look like Mike. What was the first verb? Dunks ain't come out before Jordan Warren's. We're not doing nothing. Who the dunks ain't nothing but Jordan Wands. So what I'm saying is the influence is everywhere, man. But see, you know something.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:34

But see, you know something though. If you go overseas, okay, you saying it's global. If you go overseas, go status. Yeah. Who? It's like ghost status. It's like a cousin Google that it's a cousin Google that man. Because of Google that, and you're gonna be surprised. Google that you're gonna be surprised who's globally overseas. It ain't MJ. It ain't MJ.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:57

Globally overseas what George don't sell overseas like that on everything. Because guess what? It's an international game anyway. All these niggas robbers hell now. Like you said, your boy Luca. Hey my boy, dude. Don't do that. Don't do that.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:13

Man, I've may know something.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:15

Hey, look, I was to trade that motherfucker.

Toughest Era Claims And Rebuttals

SPEAKER_04 1:03:23

Hey, listen, who is Luca Don't favorite player?

SPEAKER_01 1:03:26

What's up, Giannis? Who is Luca Donish favorite player? Look, look, who is Luca Donish favorite player? And you'll be surprised. It's LeBron James, man. The man was playing ball with a man with three.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:43

Nigga, you're gonna stop doing that to my people, man. You're gonna talk about it. Some shoes, knock it off, man. Hey, cuz on here, and you saw that man fly over them niggas and go.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:55

Stop playing with that man. Listen, the man was flying, man. That's all listen. The man, and then you know how bad it was from the free throw line. Hold on. The man was flying. Listen, see, here's the difference. Flying through the you can put Mike on any team. Okay, look, let's do this here there. Let's do this here. You build look, you build a team with Mike. And then and then from the 90s and the 80s. And let me build a 2000 team.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:22

I gain King. I ain't never tell you my best era of basketball though.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:27

What's your best era of basketball there? The 90s. Exactly. So you can build anything. I can tell you talking. I I build a team with 2000 that would demolish them.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:37

You tripping.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:38

That would demolish them.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:40

All you gonna do is go against Vince Carter. That's your error. That's your error.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:46

You can have this. You have this and Kobe. That's your error.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:52

So dig this. So dig this. You talking about drafting? Any player that was drafted? I don't care if they lose they can be at least 10 years. You gonna lose your own. They can be a year. And KG is on my secondary team. You can have KG. You can have KG. That's what I'm trying to say. You can have KG, you can have Trisha McGrady. I'm saying you can have Grent Hill. You can have all yourself. Oh, you hear yourself? Yeah. Grant Hill is on my secondary team. I just said that. You can have all left. Any one of them guards that you finna bring up, bro. See, listen. See, here's the thing that you're missing.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:33

See, look, the truth with the old school with the steel jersey. See, see, see, listen. Here's the thing that you're missing. Everybody don't name it, I already know you're gonna get them. Because I know the heart of the 90s and 80s. Also, I know the heart of the 2000s. You know what I'm saying? Like they some puppies.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:53

The 2000 niggas is a little version of the 90s niggas. That's who they learned it from. Hey, first of all, softer. The only little nigga in the 2000s. He a baby coach.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:02

Listen, listen, only skinny niggas in the 2000 is KD and goddamn uh uh uh that motherfucker from um Houston, Texas. I mean he uh uh the Spurs. Them the two littles motherfuckers in the league right now.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:14

All you got is Steph, KD, who you got, Braun.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:20

Okay, keep going, keep going, keep don't stop. God night like five of them on your squad. Keep going. Okay, I bring Kyrie. No, so who's gonna stop Kyrie?

SPEAKER_04 1:06:30

Who what we doing after that? Long's old ball, nigga, ball. What are we doing after that? Y'all don't got no more hitters after that, bro. We don't, Giannis. What we doing, man? We don't. We got no more hitters. Man, compared to my dog.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:49

This guy go out.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:50

All right, let's all right, check it out. This guy go out to night. Let's do this. Go ahead. Let's do this. Let's do this.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:54

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:55

Position for position right now.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:57

Okay, go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:58

Right now.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:58

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:59

Right now.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:59

Go ahead. You kick it off. No, you kick it off. Age before beauty. It's gonna be real pretty. Who your point guard is? Is you is you is you crazy? Yeah. Who your point guard is? We doing first team. Hey, first team. I don't care. Go ahead. Hey, you know something dope? I do it like this here. I know no no. We finna do that. I ain't we we ain't backing down. I'm gonna go back to the right. Right, right, right. I can name first, I can name three. I mean, I can name three in any order. You know what I'm saying? Like, come on, man. I'm I mean my guess what, guess what? Guess what? Guess what? Let's do this. Point guard. Point guard. Okay. Who? Okay, but give me uh uh Kyrie. Okay, I okay. I got Kyrie. Go ahead. I got Mike. Okay, give me Step.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:58

It's over already. How ready?

SPEAKER_01 1:08:02

Dude, you got two scores. I got two scores. Come on, now my bad. Who your two? Who your two? Who your two? I said Kyrie and Step. That's 3030. Okay, then go ahead. Let's go, big man. Now let's go big man now. Yeah. Stop him. What about D Wade?

SPEAKER_06 1:08:20

You ain't gonna put your boy D Wade into C C C C.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:24

I just told you. Hold on, hold on. C C I just told you I had LeBron coming off the bench. I know what

Shoes, Global Influence, And GOAT Metrics

SPEAKER_01 1:08:30

I'm doing, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:31

Wait, wait, wait, wait. See what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 1:08:32

Oh no, she got she knows something. She knows I'm talking about now.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:36

We live. We live. Hold the presence. Yeah. You just said you got Bron coming off the presentation.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:41

I said I told you that if if if right with the Lakers, I would have LeBron come off the bench. If I got a decent five out there, they're gonna give me some points. They're gonna give me 70, 80, maybe 100 points. So I'm not even through yet. See, you just see look. Is this your king? First of all, I didn't name my small forward, my power forward. Hold on, CC. I didn't say he came off the bench right now. Hold on, C C C C C. I didn't say he came off the bench off this five. I didn't say that. I said, I said, I just told you that I would have LeBron coming off the bench playing for the Lakers because nobody needs scoring. That's what I said. I was talking about back then, not now. He's scoring, he's starting the day. It's gonna be some shit.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:26

What in no era and no time of basketball will Michael Jordan ever come off any bench, nigga? From the 80s to the Wizards. Is you crazy? Because you know why I don't even think I gotta keep going.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:37

You know, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You know, you're right about that, and that's fucked up because you know why you sitting there holding back talent, trying to keep your name going, and nigga, knowing then where when you with the motherfucking wizards, you was trash.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:50

Holding back talent. I went to the wizards and was the only motherfucker keeping this going. Who I was the wizards, nigga. Nobody was ready for nothing. Man, they let my back on the motherfucker wizards when I was over there. He went over there, average 20 something, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:05

Who? How many shots did he take in his 30s? How many shots did he take? How many shots did he take? Huh? It don't matter. It do matter, it do matter. Even uh, what's the name said that?

SPEAKER_04 1:10:17

Uh uh gunning, huh? He wasn't it wasn't even if it was it wasn't a lot of dude's name that got that podcast show. What's the name of the line up because let's put this line up for the people? Let's put this a line up for the people. Okay, go ahead. Let's do that. Okay, all right. So I got I got Anthony Penny, motherfucker hard away. Okay, I know Penny.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:37

Go ahead. Go to Penny. Uh-huh. And you got him going against Steph Curry. No, you said you your exact word. Well, I got Penny and Mike. I said I got uh uh uh position for position. Yeah, I got Kyrie point shooting guard, shooting guard, Steph. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:55

Oh, you got Mike again. Oh, let's try to catch. You got him, hold on, you just said you just said Steph Curry. Yeah, Steph, go ahead. You know, I said Michael Jeffrey Jordan.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:08

I know you said I said go ahead. I know you got you got my you got Penny and Mike. Go ahead. Who else you got? Who else you got? Gray Hill. I said, Oh, okay, well come on, LB LBJ. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:27

Next I'm making a I'm making a I'm making a trade. I'm making a bitch. I'm going to the book.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:37

Scotty. Okay. Who your uh power forward is Tim Duncan Tim Duncan is in the 2000s. 1999. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. You got Tim Duncan. Sorry, sir. Well, well, uh, you know something. Oh no, C C I'll call your five.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:02

You're gonna get real wild. Let me see.

unknown 1:12:04

Let me see.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:05

You know who my five is, and that's not doing anything. You're not touching any who your four? I'm trying to see. I got I got several choices. I got several choice. Just for the record, I got Anthony Penny Hart in my one. I got Michael Jordan in my two. Uh-huh. I got Scottie Pippen in my three. Uh-huh. I got Tim Duncan in my four.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:26

Uh-huh. So, so, so, okay, well, Tim. See, that's big fundamentals. I love that nigga there. I love big fundamentals. So I need my big fundamental.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:34

He's from the 90s. I know you like that shit, don't you? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I like big fundamentals. He taught y'all niggas how to do this shit.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:41

Yeah, okay. Well, let's see. I can go with him, but I want him to come off the bench to have the bench score. Let's see. I can get him. I wonder who you know, some. I need somebody gonna be in the inside. I need somebody gonna be in the inside playing playing O week. Oh, what the fuck you gonna get Chris Bosch or some shit, man? Hell no, I ain't getting up from Chris Bosch. Chris Boss didn't even make the team. I'm trying to see. And then he'll young buck too. You know what I'm saying? Uh I like Joe. I like Joanne. Oh hell no. I like uh uh A D. I like I like KD, but KD gonna be on the bench though. You know what I'm saying? You know something though? I will get that young buck. He's a buck. He's a buck. You know who he is. He's with the Milwaukee Bucks. Yeah, yeah. Young young therapy. Give me your center.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:39

Oh shit, man. Give me a center. Take it easy. Dream. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hold on.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:48

Hey, hey, come on, man. Hey, he gotta come outside. He gotta come outside and play now. Cause I got a center. Don't do that, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:55

For real. Don't do that. Don't do that. I said I was. I said I was, my nigga. But at the end of the day, the way you just said dream, you just made me have to damn nigga. What the fuck you mean? Dream, nigga. What do you mean? Don't go like Juan.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:10

Go on, get King, hot king.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:12

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Because he'll wash you niggas up. I'm gonna put him on, I'm gonna put him on the second, on the second team. We got Diesel coming

Draft-Era Rules And Fantasy Lineups

SPEAKER_04 1:14:20

out. We got Diesel coming out.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:21

Yeah, big diesel coming out. Hey, big Diesel said on hey, you know something? Big Diesel said on their first night at ESPN, he don't play D. So he gotta play some D with this center and he's going to.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:30

I'm going to break rims, bro. What defense you're gonna play on the rim broke?

SPEAKER_01 1:14:34

Okay, see, and see that's why I like your squad. I got him dunking. I got your pass the ball, Kobe. I see, see, see, look, I like see and see that's what she that's what I like about your team. They're gonna say pass the ball. See, then you know something though. I'm going young school. I get I get that 810 motherfucker. Go ahead. I'll put 810 out there with them, the old cat. Go ahead. You say you've put who it so far? That 18, 19 year old motherfucker. That motherfucker's 810. You gotta play some defense, Shaq, and you're too big to run around.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:08

I said 90s. That nigga just got drafted three years ago.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:12

No, I'm putting 2000. CC. I'm doing 2000 to 2010.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:16

You can go all the way up. 2010. Yeah, you can't go all the way to the forever motherfucker. I said the 90s, and I got you talking about I can go from here to now. How you get 20 years, 26 years, and I get 10 years because how that makes sense, bro.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:32

No, no, no. I ain't saying you get see. See, you could have picked you picked your favorite player. I'm thinking. No, okay, look.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:38

This we was doing. We was going to go.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:39

Okay, well, okay, well, okay, well, look, let me go back then. Let me go back. I picked one. You say I got from 2000, 2010.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:46

Yeah, you gotta stop in 2010. If he went, if he was drafted from 2000, 2010, and I got it from 1992. Okay, no, you actually gotta stop in 2009.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:55

Okay, I stopped in 99. Okay, okay. You say you got shacked then. That's a big motherfucker. That's so I got to get the black ass nigga.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:02

Yeah, that's the best center to ever do it. So, so all my niggas is ghosts, man. Y'all really can't do with too much nothing. So, hey, real, we got my Houston homes still in the house, right? We chill, I'm actually in screen to keep it real. All right, so look, we're doing best errors. He said 2000s, I got 90s. So I said, approve it. Let's do let's do position for position. All right, so my point guard is Penny. His point guard was uh Kyrie. Kyrie. My screen guard, we already know, right? I got Mike. He picked stuff, he finna get washed. All right. My three, my three, Scotty. All right, I pulled Grand Hill off. I put Scotty in. He picked Brian. We cool so far. We cool, we cool. I got Tim Duncan. He went, hold on, hold on. 99. I slid Tim and uh who you Giannis. Hold on, hold on. When Giannis was drafted, because that's right, I'm right.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:08

No, Giannis can't go.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:12

Let me see. Then a nigga say I say he said he got um Wimby at five. I say boy, that nigga was drafted like three years ago. He's talking about I thought I had 2000. Boy, you gotta stop in 2009. He says 26 years of draft zombie, bro. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, I got hey, for the clues for the losing over, cuz I I got nine years over here uh would be cold though. I ain't gonna hold you. That's that's a different nigga though, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:51

Yeah, go everything. I hey hey, go everything. I'm like, oh okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:54

That was a no, that's a different nigga, bro. If it was anybody against that, I'm gonna keep it a bean. Well, if Wendy get a little swollen, a little swallow. If he get Yonis, if Wendy get Yannis, he the best ever do it. If Wendy get Yonna's size, he the best ever do it.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:11

And then you say you got uh uh uh Tim Dun.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:16

If he get Yannis' size, bro and get he already hit with it, bro. Matter of fact, give me fucking swords. He he's never gonna get a shack.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:29

But I cool. That's why Tim and see, but see, but see, but see, but see, but see what's a four. But see, uh uh uh man, give me a Mary Star.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:39

Hold on, hold on, hold on. Well, he was 2009, wasn't he?

SPEAKER_01 1:18:41

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:42

Snitchy motherfuckers, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:43

Give me a marriage, hey, hey, hey, he's still watching him, but he he'll die. But see, here's the thing though, right? See, he don't know that yo see Shaq is a motherfucking a flaw. Shaq don't play no defense, and Shaq don't want that ball. That's the main thing that y'all need to understand. Say Shaq don't do what Shaq don't play no defense. He got no more defense of players, because of what the fuck type of basketball? You and look, I know you did hey hey, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Shaq said it. No, something hold on, hit me out.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:19

Shaq

Shaq, Hakeem, And Big-Man Defense

SPEAKER_04 1:19:20

said it out his mouth, and you can imagine no, he played on Orlando before he played in in LA, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:19:25

Listen, and yeah, and then his best years for souvenirs. Listen, his best years been hold on. Shaq started, hold on, hold on, hold on. Shaq best years best years with LA. That was his best year. You can start different now, bro. Huh? You said you don't play defense. Oh, he said it himself. Shaq said it on YouTube. Matter of fact, on get the clip and send it to you. Probably when he was in Cleveland, niggas. No, he was in Blackwood. Oh, even in LA. Shaq wants that ball, man. Why you think that the version came out? Pass the ball, Kobe.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:03

Pull up some pull up some highlights right now and put in Shaq. See, this why this why on point we're gonna have we're gonna have to have a screen on the side for shit like this on the basement. Live in chat, my niggas. See, this is my nigga right here, my boy. But unbiased. And then plus he would help you out too. For no reason. Shaq don't play defense, is the quote.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:22

Shaq was in the Pine. Nothing I can do with Shaq.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:26

Offense, defense, nothing.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:28

See, he's been biased. You asked him to look it up. He he should have getting a paint.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:32

You think niggas was going in the hole when Shaq was in the delaying that motherfucker up and doing what they want okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:40

You're right about that. They weren't going to hold, they were shooting. Okay, I'm not saying that, but also you have some centers out there. Why do you think I don't say uh uh our king the dream fucked them up? I got one. Hold on, hold on, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Answer that question. Didn't the dream kill Shaq? No, didn't the dream he didn't? Who they beat? Oh when right Olendo played Houston for the title. When Sack when Shaq was a fucking baby, huh? You just said hold on, time out. You just said Ollando Shaq. Orlando Shaq was a baby. Shaq was a baby though. Exactly. And I tried that when he had the defense in Orlando. You just said that. They went to the finals and lost to Houston.

unknown 1:21:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:26

The dream killed.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:27

Check this out. Check this out. Check this out. I'm the best player in the league. Uh-huh. I'm the best player in the league on defense, right? Who? I'm the best defensive player in the league. Who? And I go against Michael Jordan, and he killed me for 30. I'm not, I don't, I'm not good at defense no more. No, I'm not saying that.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:41

But I'm saying at the same time, though. But see, but see, but see, but see. When he was a hold on, hit me out, hit me out. You just proved my point. Like, come on, hold on, hold on. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Cuz though, you just prove my point. You said that he was a baby, and and and the dream scored 30 on. So, what makes you think another killer can't score 30?

SPEAKER_04 1:22:03

They didn't. That's what I'm saying. Who did? That's the only nigga that did that shit. Was cook was Hakeem. Nobody was doing nothing with Shaq until he got to the finals and he and Dream put that sauce on him because he was that nigga, bro. That's all that's why I just told you I'll pull Kareem up, but I put him off to the side and put Shaq up. Kareem is a Hakeem is a problem, bro. That nigga is a problem, dog. Yeah. And he put Shaq in the blender, yes, because Shaq was a baby. And Shaq was more not mature. He was thinking like he wasn't scoring. So come on, man. He went with that shit. Like he Hakeem played in his head. And he got that. You know what I'm saying? Hakeem got that shit, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:44

Like, you know, something, man. You know something. And then and then and then and then and then you know something else, right? Why you saying that? You say, I'm trying to see. I gotta get a center. You know what I'm saying? I need a center. I'm gonna be honest with you. I need a center. I mean, I mean, I get what you're saying.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:02

You gotta come better than Amari, bro. Amari cool and shit, but I gotta come better than Amari. How? Why? We got the big fundamental down there, dog.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:11

He gotta play defense. You only got three defensive. Matter of fact, you only got two defensive players.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:18

Everybody on my team play defense. And they lock shit up. Man, Kenny locking shit up. Mike locking shit up. First team defense. Yeah, okay. Scotty locking shit up.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:30

Yeah, okay. But see, you know something dope. You know something dope. Scotty been fouled out.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:35

You're not coming.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:36

Hey, listen, Scotty been fouled out.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:38

Bro, your inside points is not even gonna be relevant. What inside point? I don't need the inside point.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:43

I got a guy that you but you and you gonna be doing what they do. You just said that even 2000, 2010. LeBron Young Buck would for real. For real. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on. When stuff get drafted? Steph got drafted. Hold on. See, now hey, I can't. When stuff gets drafted, man. 10 or 9? I think nine. Double check that, man. Now something I got hey, hey.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:10

Hold on, man. Hey, hey, I can't go too far, man. You you pushing the limits with your lineup, man. You already had to pull Giannis off. When stuff gets drafted? When Kyrie get drafted, no, Kyrie got drafted in oh eight, I think, nine. Something like that. No, hold on. No, fuck that.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:29

No, I'm not, nigga. I'm like, what you called over there, man. Man, look, nigga, you get help over there.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:39

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is an unbiased situation. It's an unbiased situation. Hey, cuz I hate to break it to you, man. I hate to break it to you. This is why we need factors. You tried to slide. Hey, Kyrie got

Resetting Lineups And Time Checks

SPEAKER_04 1:25:00

driven in 2010. He good.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:03

No, he's good. You say I got 10 years.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:07

I gotta go for 2000.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:08

So oh wow. Well, no, something though. Hold on. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Because no, I no, no, no, because no I think if if that's the case, Mike gotta come off the list. Hold on. Mike got to come off the list. Then Scotty gotta come off the list then. Come on now. Come on, man. Now see, I'll let that shit slide. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. So come on now. Come on now. And and I I won't say until you okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:36

Yeah, hold on. Hey, all right, all right. Yeah, all right. What? All right, all right, all right, all right. You write like a motherfucker. Yeah, um real. Scotty can stay though. No, he can't. Scotty was drafted in the 90s.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:47

Man, okay. No, hell no, Scotty was drafted in the 90s. Let me see. Scotty was draft, man. Man, no, Scotty was drafted in 88.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:56

Oh, he wasn't, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:57

Yes, he was.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:58

You said he wasn't, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:00

Yeah. Remember, they beat the Pistons in the 90s, 8990. Scotty had already had a migraine in 88.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:07

Scotty was drafting in 87.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:09

Yeah, so so both of them gotta come out. Fuck you mean. I ain't going like that. He's not gonna get all my men off. I ain't going.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:19

I bet shit. I still got penny though.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:22

Okay, you have penny.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:25

And the dream is gone.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:27

And the dream is gone. All of them is gone. Now you can keep Shaq and then you can keep Penny. Yeah, your whole team gone. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:36

I got Shaq and Penny though for you, so okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:39

That's all you got.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:40

That's all I need right now. Okay, yeah, yeah. No, no, no. That's cool though. Let's all right, let's do this. All right, it's on me for the my shooting guard. Drafted in the 90s. I'm finna go.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:00

I'm waiting. I'm waiting.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:08

See, we gotta now we gotta do our real good research, bro. Go and get Kobe.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:12

I mean, right. Go and get Kobe. You scared get Kobe?

SPEAKER_04 1:27:16

Man, it gotta be from Kobe.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:18

Kobe is a replica of Mike. He stole all his moves and shit. He a gun too.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:23

Man, don't say don't say steal nothing, man. Man, listen. Hey, he stole the man coach.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:28

He stole the man coach. Hey, he stole Phil Jackson. He stole Text winners. Hey, the Lakers stole the whole board's coaching squad. And to the tribal winning with them.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:40

Let's do this.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:41

What?

SPEAKER_04 1:27:43

We're doing Penny Kobe.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:45

Okay, Penny Kobe. And I got uh uh uh uh uh

Super Bowl Picks And Wrap-Up

SPEAKER_01 1:27:50

see damn I gotta go TC, I gotta do my research. I gotta change minds all around. I can't right now because I don't got too hey we got two minutes. Left though far on this podcast, like for real. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:03

So we know where to pick up and all that.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:05

What you doing tomorrow before the Super Bowl though? Who you got for the Super Bowl?

SPEAKER_04 1:28:08

We gonna end it with uh we gonna end it with uh I got Seattle, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:14

Oh, everybody got Seattle. Everybody got Seattle, I got Seattle too. I got Seattle too. I wanna see Sam Donald get it because I'm out here with these uh uh Viking fans and they had and they they had uh Sam Donald last year, but they traded him no for the bum. They still got that feeling, yeah. Well no though, hey hey D, I appreciate you being on here, man. We gotta do this either not I said no, not tomorrow, but Monday, you know. We gotta do this Monday, we gotta run it back, you know what I'm saying? And this time we have our top five. We can do that, man. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:51

Uh well, man. I got you. I got you. As a matter of fact, though. I always matter of fact, you might be a co-host.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:01

That's what I'm thinking about. That's right. You know what I'm saying? Be a co-host.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:06

That's right.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:07

But yeah, though, I appreciate my cousin D. One of my favorite cousins, you know what I'm saying? Been on my podcast called Bab Talk. Hey, I will be posting it tonight. I want everybody to tune in. And like I said before, I want to thank y'all for subscribing,

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SPEAKER_01 1:29:20

sharing, and liking. Now, look, y'all enjoy y'all day.