Courting In A No-Strings Era

What happens when old school romance crashes into modern dating rules? We pull up with Auntie Monica and Camille for an unfiltered talk on courting, clear intentions, and why “say what you mean” still separates grown love from messy vibes. From flowers and first dates to labels and boundaries, we get real about what actions actually signal commitment—and what’s just performance.

We dig into whether men, especially post-divorce or over 45, truly want to settle down or just want the freedom they missed. Personal stories challenge stereotypes, revealing how age, culture, and experience shape what we chase. The money question hits hard too: are gifts a sweet start or bait for users? We unpack how presentation, consistency, and communication matter more than price tags, and why silence around exclusivity breeds drama fast.

Then we face the double standards head-on: body count, honesty about wanting sex, and how women get judged for the same transparency men applaud. Safety joins romance as a core topic—because responsible choices, testing, and protection belong in grown conversations. The energy spikes when we ask if amazing dates can survive bad sex and whether technique is coachable. You’ll hear straight talk on chemistry, non-negotiables, and how to decide what you can compromise.

We close with the home front: cooking, chores, bills, and fairness. If one partner covers more financially, what’s a respectful split at home? We push past clichés and land on the truth that every couple needs a custom agreement based on hours, stress, and skills. Along the way, Sweetest Day and regional culture show how upbringing sets expectations many of us never question.

Hit play for a candid, funny, and thought-provoking ride through love’s real checkpoints: clarity, reciprocity, and respect. If this conversation hits, subscribe, share it with a friend, and drop your biggest non‑negotiable in a review—what do you absolutely need to call it love?

Transcript

Welcome To Bap Talk Part Two

SPEAKER_07 1:45

Yeah, I'm about to see what the podcast smoke is still.

SPEAKER_04 1:51

Today it's a very special episode.

Meet Auntie Monica And Camille

SPEAKER_07 1:56

It's two for price of one. Y'all be talking about the body bitch. We did the last podcast with lit. This can be double lit. You know, at the same time, though, I gotta be me. So if it's tag team, you know I'm gonna represent the low end. You know I'm gonna represent a run. And they for the honey. Are you for real? They say we from out west. It is what it is, though. You know. Let's try to start this podcast called Bap Talk. Hope y'all like it. Yeah, once again, it's me, Baptiste, the host of Bap Talk Podcast. You know where I smoke, chill, and talk. Well, today, it's part two of my last podcast. You know, Camille, she's in the house also. But this time she brought up her best friend with her. And y'all still was lit. You know, from the phone calls that I received, and I appreciate that. So, like with that being said, I want to say thank y'all for subscribing, sharing, and liking. Everything y'all do, I really appreciate it. Okay, now the lady I had with me today, they call her Aunt Monica. Auntie Monica. I apologize for that. They call her Auntie Monica.

SPEAKER_11 3:11

Auntie Monica. Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_07 3:13

So right now, I'm gonna see what Auntie Monica knows. You know what I'm saying? So right, you know, Bab Talk is all real and all real and uncut. We shouldn't call nothing. No, but with that being said, though, I can't leave Camille out. So I want to give both of you ladies around applause. Okay, Auntie Monica, how you doing today?

SPEAKER_11 3:39

I'm good. I'm I'm I'm God is good.

SPEAKER_07 3:43

Okay. And all the time. So um, with that being said, can you tell my audience something about you?

SPEAKER_11 3:53

Okay, I'm uh they call me Miss Mooney. Straight three one two V773, 612 area, Minneapolis, Minnesota, and glad to be here.

SPEAKER_07 4:09

And Bob So glad to have you too. Now Camille, even though you told my audience something about yourself, was that Thursday? Tell them something about yourself again. Something that right there, something tell them something that they don't know.

SPEAKER_09 4:27

I don't know about I thought that's I think I told you a lot about me the last time, but again, it's me, Camille, Chicago, via Atlanta. Um that's enough shit. Thank you, Bab. I wasn't even ready for that one.

Is Courting Still Alive

SPEAKER_07 4:51

Hey no, it's all right, sis, hey, sis, it's all it's it's all good. I told you Baptist, we keep it real here. If it's if you call God, I apologize about that. You know what I'm saying? But it is what it is, dope. But but look, though. Hey, Auntie Monica, I want I'm gonna ask you something. Because right, I asked Mill this Thursday, right, on our last podcast. You know, it's it's on Apple Podcasts, it's on Spotify. I just put it on at Heart, it's and then it'd be on Amazon Music, also and other um podcast sites. But you know, me, like far as me right. My guy's been telling me I shouldn't buy the girl nothing first because I'm trying to court her. So right, I asked Mill, is there anything wrong with a man courting a woman right now today?

SPEAKER_09 5:37

Um I don't see anything wrong with it. I think men should get back to courting women. That's the problem. No one wants to take time to get to know each other.

SPEAKER_06 5:49

Okay.

SPEAKER_09 5:52

Right?

SPEAKER_07 5:52

I mean, that's how you feel, because I was told something different. You know, I mean, like, I man, honestly, I read my mama and then I wanna see I wanna see people uh fall for each other instead of just jumping a broom and then jump to bed because that might not lead to nothing. You feel what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_09 6:10

So right that well, it depends on what what what are you dating for? I mean, people have different end games when you when you date. So but I think that the more quality time you spend with a person is the better the outcome. I mean, either good or bad. You know what I'm saying? So I I I I think I ne I think they need to bring dating back. I think people are so accustomed to just doing shit out of the whim nowadays. Everything is acceptable.

SPEAKER_11 6:40

Like, oh hey, let's fuck around. Oh, yeah, okay, let's fuck around and shit. We just fucking. Which is cool to each his own, you know what I'm saying? But if you're really trying to date to get to know somebody and date for you know for goals like marriage or being exclusive.

SPEAKER_07 6:56

So that brings me to a question. So, right, that so so I got another question to follow that then. So, right, you're saying that um so right, it is too tight. It's just like if she don't want to date, and then she just wanna get nailed, so the man should come out and say, Let me hit that there, in other words. In so many words. Okay, you feel what I'm saying? Because at the same time, though, go ahead. Tell me something. I I need to know.

SPEAKER_09 7:23

So I'm I'm I'm I'm listening to your question because it is yeah, you do have men out there who I mean put it to you like that.

SPEAKER_07 7:30

Is it cool just to say that though? You feel what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_09 7:32

Cause cuz cause if that's how you're looking for, absolutely. Let me know what we're doing. So if you just out here to smash and that's it, then let me know that. Now I have two options. Either we can say smash, and I'm cool with that, or I take the other road and be like, no, that's not what I want. I want something else. But absolutely, it's okay to say this is all I want, it's all I'm looking for. Agreed. Okay, I feel that.

SPEAKER_07 8:02

I mean, I mean, I mean, I'm hey, I'm like a flower on the wall. I'm just asking.

SPEAKER_09 8:08

Okay, so tell me this. Tell me this from a man's perspective. If you what do you think? Do you think if you told a female that this is all I want, she gonna turn you down immediately? Or you wanna play this man game instead of just being real about it? Like, what's what's your take on that? Are you able just to tell are you able just to tell a female I just won't fuck? That's all I want. Are you as a man able to tell a female that? Yes, but see and it and I think it's a high percentage to where men actually feel that way. Y'all really just won't fuck.

SPEAKER_07 8:50

Hey, not all the time. Hold on. No, no, hold on, hold on, hold on. Not all the time like that.

SPEAKER_09 8:55

You don't think that's true?

SPEAKER_07 8:56

Uh huh. I think it's true. I mean, I mean, I I mean, it's now now I give it I give it like a um I say like a 60%. But uh a lot of guys they want a relationship. Huh? Like me.

SPEAKER_09 9:09

That's a high number.

SPEAKER_07 9:10

Yeah, it is, but but right, it's a lot of us out here, they want a relationship. You know what I'm saying? They want to settle down. All the Y N, you know, huh?

SPEAKER_09 9:20

You think the majority of the men want to settle down?

SPEAKER_07 9:23

I no, I said no, I said it's like a lower percentage. But for our people like my age, you know what I'm saying, we want to settle down. But like the you know, like the uh I said the younger dudes, like 30 and and under, they out here they're trying to smash. Because right, they never seen or never had, you know what I'm saying, or right won't. They want to get in and get out. See, older, see, see, older men don't think like that. I know I don't.

SPEAKER_09 9:48

Well, I I beg to differ. I I I I disagree because I feel like when you're dating, the dating pool for that age group, 45 and over, 45, 55, they've already had that marriage, they've already been in those long-term relationships, they've already been there, done that, and and and don't want to do that. So you know what I mean? Like they just want to go ahead.

SPEAKER_07 10:13

Oh my apologize, go ahead.

SPEAKER_09 10:15

They just want to have fun. But see, you really come across that, and that's cool, that's cool, but let it be. And that means we just gonna fuck, have a good time, and you go over to your house, and I'm gonna go over here to my house.

SPEAKER_07 10:28

But see, I understand that a lot of men, a lot of men that have been married and everything, they really think that they can uh uh uh like do it again. Do that relationship thing again, the background yeah, uh yeah, but uh like I was saying though, a lot of men of that age, you know, other age, like 45, they might want to try it again, they might try it with somebody different, you know. I I mean every it's like everything ain't for everybody. You feel what I'm saying? So right so right, so right, so right, say for instance with me. If I was married, I got married at the age of uh 30, 35, turning 40, 45, maybe I've been married for 10 years. Why would I try something that's outside that's not trustworthy? Now see, that's like I said to Camille, now I mean, I mean, it's a lot of stuff out here, you'll be surprised, you know what I'm saying? And why would I try to get into that? No, I'd rather come home to get mine.

SPEAKER_09 11:28

You shouldn't.

SPEAKER_07 11:29

No, I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_09 11:30

I'm not saying she's on your wife.

SPEAKER_07 11:31

Exactly. So right, so no, no, I'm saying though, I'm not saying after I'm saying after a divorce, a long-term relationship or something like that. You know, because like yeah, I mean, I mean, if you don't broke up, if you don't got divorced, whatever, you know what I'm saying? I don't I don't think all men want to run the streets. Because streets are wild.

Be Honest Or Just Smash

SPEAKER_09 11:53

Well, majority of the majority of the times after a divorce, men not trying to jump back into another relationship or another marriage or anything like that. Like he wants that free time. You you think that men are ready to jump back into a whole full-fledged relationship either just coming out of a divorce?

SPEAKER_07 12:13

Hey, I'm gonna tell you something. And this fact out of ten, I know at least six of them, six, seven of them. You know what I'm saying? They went right back because nobody could hear me out because nobody had their fun at first. Once you tell that not.

SPEAKER_08 12:29

Well, when did you when did you have your fun when you were married?

SPEAKER_09 12:33

Nah, huh? You said they had their fun already.

SPEAKER_07 12:37

Yeah, I'm talking about like running the streets. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm talking about like at first it's like run at first it's like running the streets doing what you do. I'm saying that that look, you shut it down for a reason. You're not gonna go back to the past. It's called moving forward.

SPEAKER_09 12:52

And then after that, it's not even it's not even coming out of that marriage to run the street again. Like if you ran the street, got into this relationship, got married, did 10 years, you need a breather, you need a reset. And I think you need a reset for about five or so years before you jump into something else.

SPEAKER_00 13:13

Why?

SPEAKER_07 13:15

I mean, I mean, I mean you need to reset. No, no, no. Why would I reset? And then look, I'm moving forward. It's like this here.

SPEAKER_09 13:24

You still get every relationship, it's still gonna be on you for at least a year.

SPEAKER_07 13:31

You said five to six years.

SPEAKER_09 13:33

That is I think you need that.

SPEAKER_07 13:36

Well, well, well, well, uh, coming from a man, we don't. We really don't. I'm only being honest. That's true. You don't have.

SPEAKER_09 13:48

I don't, I don't, I don't, nah, because I don't think you're answering for most men.

SPEAKER_07 13:51

Yes, I am.

SPEAKER_09 13:52

I think most men will want that reset time. I think the majority of the men that I talk to probably don't want to get married ever again in life.

SPEAKER_07 14:01

But see, but see, but see, but see, you saying married, we're talking about settling down. A man gonna want to settle down again. A man ain't gonna want to run the streets, a man got a nine to five job, a man got to do all this here. A man ain't trying to run out in the streets and then no have the time women, a woman got their hands out. Like, no, for what? And that's how we think. Are they beneficiaries for me? No, they're not. I ain't go home to some pussies, to a meal, to all that there, instead of running the streets, getting up at four or five in the morning, coming home, then I gotta go to work. That made no sense.

SPEAKER_09 14:33

Let me tell you something back. First of all, you probably only got that bag of gifts and spending a thousand dollars on a motherfucker. You think so?

SPEAKER_07 14:43

You think so? You think so?

SPEAKER_09 14:45

You think so? Monica, tell me, do you think, especially from Chicago, do you think most the majority of the men from Chicago is out there balling out on a female? Like you just met her, y'all been dating a month, and she bang you purses, shoes, take you to dinner, all in within a month. Is that is that norm for a dude from Chicago? No, I don't think that's normal, but I do think it's men out there that that set the set the bar for that. Is it's rare men out there? Thank you. I mean I'm one of them.

SPEAKER_07 15:26

And I just admitted that they're on my podcast. That's someone never did.

SPEAKER_09 15:29

I think they're very rare in Chicago. I think that's old school. That's the old school.

SPEAKER_07 15:35

I totally that. It's it's it's rules and that ain't the it's rules and regulations about this here.

SPEAKER_10 15:41

Exactly. I ain't no Y. Knock it off. I told you that.

SPEAKER_09 15:47

It ain't even about old school and new school, it's about how much you're influenced by society. Because I like I said before, we're living in a time where anything goes. So when you dealing with that versus real healthy traditional relationship with somebody, would you rather stick to that or be out here doing anything? Because you with somebody and she said, anything goes.

SPEAKER_07 16:09

Exactly. So but I'm wrong though. Thank you for answering that. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_09 16:15

Like, no, it's common. You don't find people wrong in our relationships no more. No, and what you do with that as far as dating somebody, courting somebody, you are not wrong in that at all, because ultimately that is what a woman is looking for. Not looking for shivery and how it used to be. That's what women look for. This stuff has the guys to it. We're not knocked in that, but that's just not a rare. I mean, that's rare. That's not true.

SPEAKER_10 16:43

Right, I know that it's it's rare. That shit is not common, bro.

SPEAKER_07 16:47

That old school shit. Hey, look, I tell like this, I show a real man is, you know what I'm saying? I'm not from here. You know what I'm saying? Hey, I treat you like a queen. And I do that. And as you should. And and and then look, that be off GP. Sometimes you don't got to ask, you know what I'm saying? I call I call it doing homework. You know what I'm saying? Just like I might send some flowers just off the strength. Just because. You know what I'm saying? Nothing else. I I'm I I mean, it ain't what you do, it's how you do it. Especially if you like that person. Now, see, if I'm just trying to smash, I'll buy you a drink. But real time.

SPEAKER_09 17:22

What do you say about your drink?

SPEAKER_07 17:24

Real talk, but at the same time, if I see more in you, I'm gonna invest more. You know? And and then a lot of men don't do it. And then honestly, a lot of women don't want for that. I mean, I mean, I mean, a lot of women right now, they out here, they don't expect that. You know what I'm saying? They expect to get a beard, a white cloth, or something like that. And then they go on about their business. But see, me personally, by me being who I am, and me, and then by me seeing my guys, and by me being raised where I was raised, I don't treat a woman like a queen. We have to love. Yes, I did get out for Valentine's Day. Yes, I did do this, yes, I did do that. Because whatever I spend, I get back in ten folds. That's why I say I'm blessed. A lot of people don't think like that though. You feel what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_09 18:07

And they don't, and they don't, but uh you and you shouldn't stop what you're doing. But like she said, that's not the norm these days.

SPEAKER_07 18:16

Yeah, hey, hey, hey, hey, Auntie Monica. My boy caught me. My boy got out on me. Yeah, nigga, y'all that money, y'all that stuff in there. How would you spend two or three hundred? You sweet. I said, Mello, I said, first of all, you're looking at what I honestly. I don't honestly, I don't, I don't worship money. In real life, I don't. I don't I don't worship money. Money isn't see to me, money is the rule of all evil. So at the same time, though, if I get this person, I can have a personnel, I get that back. You know what I'm saying? So it's like it's nothing to me, but at the same time, I like this girl. And then I want to see her, see something better in her. You know what I'm saying? My job to help her push herself to be better. A lot of people out here that try to be a good thing.

SPEAKER_09 18:59

Are you married? No, I'm single. You married?

SPEAKER_07 19:01

No, I'm I'm single. I've been single for some years.

SPEAKER_11 19:04

You in a uh you in a learn a long-term relationship?

SPEAKER_07 19:08

No, I'm single. Dating. Oh, you super single? I'm super single.

SPEAKER_09 19:12

I'm so every time, so tell me this. So you so that means you actively dating, right?

SPEAKER_07 19:18

No, I'm trying to find a girl, but oh you're not actively dating. But super C but see hit me. I'm trying to find a girl, but ain't no girl on that page. They just trying to get smashed. I'm scared to smash anything right now. Because because right, I looked up the status. I'm being I hey hey, hey, I looked at stuff on you know from this, you know, from the state here, it's everywhere. So right, so everybody can't get baptiste, you know, so I can't go for that.

SPEAKER_09 19:42

But yeah, I mean I think you're telling the story. I don't think you keep it in the book, G. Who I think you're dating.

SPEAKER_07 19:49

See, I'm dating, no, I'm not dating. I wish I would though.

SPEAKER_09 19:53

Okay, so Valentine's Day. Listen, G, Valentine's Day was three weeks ago, right? Right, right. Did you not ball out for a particular chick a couple of years?

SPEAKER_11 20:03

I remember that conversation, sir.

SPEAKER_09 20:05

Yeah. So what do you what do you consider that? What is that called? Courting. Tricking off. Is that tricking off?

Do Men Really Want To Settle

SPEAKER_07 20:12

Hey, you can call it tricking off. You can call first of all, it ain't tricking off. It ain't tricking exactly. So sorry, I ain't tripping on that. You know what I'm saying? I'm hey, I swear to God, my mom, I'm not tripping on that. No saying, so at the same time, though, it's called courting. You know what I'm saying? Cause because honestly, well met, they don't believe me. Valentine's Day, Sweet Day.

SPEAKER_08 20:34

That's dating.

SPEAKER_07 20:37

But no, I'm not dating. I'm I'm because no, I'm trying. What's the difference?

SPEAKER_09 20:43

Courting is somebody is spending time taking a girl out, spending time getting to know her. That's courting.

SPEAKER_07 20:51

Exactly.

SPEAKER_09 20:52

That's dating. So that's that's dating as well. You can say that's dating too.

SPEAKER_07 20:56

Well, I don't okay. If if y'all say so, I don't know. I have a different meaning for that, but I can't.

SPEAKER_08 21:00

What does dating mean to you?

SPEAKER_07 21:02

Dating mean you we getting down, we spend the night together, no same. We're going out to eat, we're doing everything together.

SPEAKER_09 21:08

No, no, no, y'all go together.

SPEAKER_08 21:11

No, no, no, no, you don't.

SPEAKER_09 21:14

Yeah, if I give you my vagina, we spend the night together, and all that, and I give you my vagina, we go together.

SPEAKER_08 21:18

She's that vagina.

SPEAKER_07 21:25

I don't know about that one.

SPEAKER_09 21:26

No, I don't believe that either. I that's her opinion. I don't believe that's so hardly. I don't believe you're not dating until both of y'all communicated have a conversation about titles and commitment and what it expectations.

SPEAKER_11 21:43

You can't assume just because you fuck me and I fuck you then.

SPEAKER_09 21:46

Yeah, I assume that. Don't fuck me there. Well that way. Don't give me your penis, G. We had a whole relationship. I feel sorry. So you You approach every chick. He's clear. You approach every chick. You shower every chick. Every chick you do.

SPEAKER_07 22:05

No, no, hold on. When you're dating, no, no, no, no, no, no. I said, if I want to smash, I'll take it to the bar.

SPEAKER_08 22:13

That's what you said. No, I did not.

SPEAKER_07 22:15

No, I did not. I said this one chick. That was on Valentine's Day. I did do that. But at the same time, anybody else? I mean about the bar. You want to drink? Okay, what do you drink? Alone, I have nice tea? Vaccine cranberry juice? Okay, I got you. Back here. But this year, I'm trying to show her that it's a better. See, a lot of women think all men are the same. And we're not. We're really not. I mean, I just don't want that out. You know what I'm saying? I see.

SPEAKER_11 22:42

Oh no. What you're contradicting yourself. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_09 22:47

Yeah. Because if you got your eye on me and we just went to Denmark, you know about me in Valentine's Day gifts and all this. You mean to tell me you'll go to the bar the very next day and shower another chick with the same exact thing?

SPEAKER_07 23:01

See, once I said once again, I said they wouldn't get that. They I just said that. I would buy them a drink, a Lone Island IT, a motherfucking walker, and cranberry juice. Not no showers. You know what I'm saying? They get uh and and she got the drink package. Yeah, I mean, yeah, one drink, two drinks, you know what I'm saying? That's$20. Oh, oh, oh, okay. You know what I'm saying? It's a big difference. If and then them type of girls out on chase. I don't wake up and I'm calling back on that there. No, I don't do that. I don't text good morning, no. It's a difference. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_11 23:46

No, I mean No, it sounds the same to me, but okay, we're right out with it. It's a it's I mean, we we we let's let's just move on because I tried to make a point, but you kind of danced around it because you said Dayton and and the other thing was two totally thing, two different things, but they the same thing.

SPEAKER_07 24:10

See, listen, from my understanding is I just heard first of all, it's not we haven't I haven't smashed the girl number number one. We communicate true, trying to make it a point B. You know what I'm saying? And then at the same time, I'm trying to lock her down. So, right, basically, you know what I'm saying? I'm I'm in my courting stage. So at the same time, though, by these raggled goop ass niggas out here, they don't know how to treat a woman, it makes the job harder, you know what I'm saying? So I'm trying so right, I'm trying to show that it is some good dudes out here that's that for you, especially ones you know with the kids because back blooded kids.

SPEAKER_09 24:44

But how are you showing me that it's some good dudes out here if you're courting me and courting multiple women?

SPEAKER_07 24:52

I'm not courting that see, that's where everybody confused that. I said it's a difference. I said, if I just wanted to smash a girl, I would take her to the bar. But if I'm interested in her, I would wind a diner. I would shower her, I would shower her you know with gifts. It's a difference. I ain't doing two of them at once because that's too much money being spent. And then honestly, you know what I'm saying? And then honestly, you know what I'm saying? That I gotta be a plan. I probably go into the bar.

SPEAKER_09 25:19

Then what if she what if what if what if she stopped being nice to you when you stop buying her the gifts?

SPEAKER_11 25:25

Or do you continue to buy the gifts throughout the whole entire relationship? Okay, how can you tell she's not using you?

SPEAKER_07 25:32

Okay, that's a good question. First of all, it's not gifts all the time, you know. Like six like Valentine's Day or what's the name, and now I might spend sixty, seven dollars. See, see, see, a lot of females don't see the see the things that they get, you know what I'm saying, as big things. They know it's small things. That's like I might buy a bootcat rose for a hundred dollars. You know, that means something to them because ain't nobody doing that for 'em. See, once again, it ain't what you do, it's how you do it, you know. So, right, it just by the gift that you giving them, it means something to them because, right, have nobody did that to them. Y'all were trying to smack them around and and like things like that there. So I'm not never saying that now you can't now. This one girl, yeah. I did buy some shoes, spent like three or four hundred dollars. That's cool, find a dandy. But see, it'd be the presentation that that milks it. You know, the presentation.

SPEAKER_09 26:25

So, so so here's the thing. Here's the thing, here's the thing. Shut up. Um, so here's the thing. Listen, so if if if I'm the chick that you get the Valentine's Day gifts for, right? So when it went to dinner, you done bought these gifts for me. Me in my head, I'm thinking that we're courting slash dating, right? Okay, we get to know each other. If I happen to show up at what's your bar again? Valera's Valera's Zorba. If I show up at Zorbras and you at the bar buying drinks for another chick, am I supposed to feel some type of way?

SPEAKER_07 27:09

I mean, it's always communication. So if you agree that we're not dating, you can't say nothing. That's the thing that I and she looked that's a thing that needs to be said. It gotta be an agreement. Now, if you say that we are dating, I can't do that. You understand what I'm saying? But but it means you are just uh uh going through the motion of going there, and then plus I make it be known if I'm chasing, I'm chasing for a reason, then that that means one thing. So I'm not gonna chase nothing else, but if I'm only chasing a nail, you can't tell me nothing because you can do the same thing.

Gifts, Money, And Being Used

SPEAKER_09 27:44

No, I'm gonna I'm serious because I asked you that same question. Oh, you didn't. I kept it real with you. Are you dating? No, I'm not dating anybody with it. I'm not no, listen, but that's not what that's not what you said. You told me you were dating with intentions. Oh, that was my main question a couple days ago. Are you dating with intentions? So if I'm dating you with intentions and you know and you feel that I'm there a hundred percent because you're buying gifts, you're taking your dinner, we're talking, we're getting to know each other, we're dating for intention. So if you're doing all this stuff and I show up at Zorbers and you at the bar buying drinks for some other chick, I'm flipping the whole table over.

SPEAKER_07 28:31

First of all, first of all, first of all, you want to do that because by you saying it like that there, I want to put you up in the I will not put that into play like that. See, I'm saying that now. If that was understood that we are dating, of course I can't do that. But you but see, what you feel realize is that just because a person is getting gifts and everything, and just because a person is around a person, that don't mean that they are dating because they think is they think it's a relationship.

SPEAKER_09 29:02

Oh no.

SPEAKER_07 29:09

And then honestly, no, and and then honestly, I'm scared, like like I told you at our last podcast, it's kind of it's kind of honestly auntie Monica. I told her, I'm scared to really go in on a female here because that's like you it I'm I mean, like, then a lot of women haven't had no black men before. And then you know, and then our name carry a reputation. You feel what I'm saying? So so so so so and I was telling, like, I had a white girl here, a snow bunny, you know what I'm saying? And she tried the uh the ballpark. And then she never had it.

SPEAKER_10 29:49

What's that mean? She tried to take all your money, she took your money.

SPEAKER_07 29:53

My money, no, no, I didn't call her back. I didn't call her back. So right, so so so right, so right. Then it's like it was understand and like I said, you wanted to try something out, and uh you try it out. So that don't mean that I gotta get back in touch with you. That's all that's all it is.

SPEAKER_09 30:12

Wait, wait, wait. You were her first black penis?

SPEAKER_07 30:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 30:19

And you told her before you gave her your penis that this was just a trial run.

SPEAKER_07 30:24

Trial hey, what I tell you hey, then with me, it's it's like a jock interview. If it draws in right, I'm gone. Oh, for real.

SPEAKER_09 30:38

Now you lost me right there.

SPEAKER_11 30:39

You you you you lost me. You lost me.

SPEAKER_07 30:42

Hey, hey, hey, Millie G. Fill it in, Millie G. I mean, I mean, I'm being honest with you. It's it's like a jock interview.

SPEAKER_09 30:48

The chick just heard about being with a black guy, and he just been the nice black guy. Right, I'll oblige and give you some of this black penis for you to try out and see what it's about. But then after she got it, you never caught her back, Jim. Yo, you I'll never talk to ever again.

SPEAKER_03 31:11

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_09 31:12

But how does she feel about that? Was she was she okay with that?

SPEAKER_07 31:16

I don't know. I don't know. I'm I mean, I mean, listen, this, listen. I I'm trying to tell y'all, it's either you get the job or you don't get the job. So, so right, if you come have an interview, it's on me to hide you, and and and then ain't no call back. I'm gonna tell you right then I'll talk to you later.

SPEAKER_09 31:36

See, see, see, we geek, we got look, I told you boom, that's the difference. What are you all dating exactly of you all dating others because that couldn't have happened over here on this side of the tracks? Because I'm a flat of ties under your front door, but see, we was raised differently because they didn't see all that in their household with the the mama acting up because the daddy did this, because the daddy paid all the bills, and we really need to get on that the the the the the white versus the black, we're gonna get in that conversation eventually, but you couldn't have pulled that stunt over here on the other side of the tracks.

SPEAKER_07 32:24

And then I hey look, I admit that. Is it my fault? Is it my fault? Honestly.

SPEAKER_09 32:30

Now come on, now it's not your fault. Okay, then it's right if you told her up front that I'ma just give you a sample and let you know what it is.

SPEAKER_07 32:40

Look, look, real talk.

SPEAKER_09 32:42

But if you let her on to thinking that I'm gonna give you this, what I was about to say something stupid.

SPEAKER_11 32:48

Listen, all I'm gonna say is I think at the end of the day, it's a divide and conquer for you, young man. How do you think it is all the game? I just think it is. You have to have fun. You just don't want that minute. Sounding fun, make it found, make it found.

SPEAKER_07 33:07

Honestly, sound bad. Honestly, honestly, honestly, I'm gonna do it. Honestly, I'm totally different.

SPEAKER_11 33:13

You have to have fun.

SPEAKER_07 33:13

Honestly, I'm totally different. I really want to settle down. That's why I'm buying this girl, all this stuff. If I didn't want to be with her, I want to buy, I want to do the things I do. So, right, I'm not I'm not in it for all fun. Huh?

SPEAKER_09 33:27

You doing it the wrong way because you're attracting the wrong type of woman. How you showering off the bat?

SPEAKER_07 33:33

First of all, it's not first of all, I'm gonna say it again. It's not her, it's me. I treat what I want right. A lot of females don't get the right treatment. That's all ain't no wrong with buying a female some roses sometime, ain't no wrong with taking care of females sometime. A lot of females. I've listened to y'all too. So right, so it's right. I listen to y'all. A lot of females don't get nothing but a drink and then get nailed, but then at the same time, y'all blame guys onstep not doing nothing for them. But see, it'd be the good guy to do some women look over. So I look, you can't blame the good guys for the things they do. But you do it for everybody. No, I don't do it for everybody.

SPEAKER_08 34:13

I just said that you do, you say that's how you date. No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_07 34:19

Listen, listen, I out of out of 30 females, only one female got some out of me, and that's one right now. I never say everybody, that's how y'all taking it.

SPEAKER_09 34:27

Those other 29 women even an option, they should even be in the picture. Why not? There's no reason that what do you mean? Why not? Because you are giving me so much attention. What am I supposed to think of that? First of all, you didn't, you didn't you didn't bought me this, we didn't did dinner, we did everything outside of having sex, right?

unknown 34:48

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_09 34:49

What do you think my mind frame is at? You don't think that I'm thinking that this dude is wanting to be my man, but then I look up and you giving the motherfucker at the bar drinks and see.

SPEAKER_07 35:00

Hold on, hold on, so so so so Camille. I don't know what you've been smoking on. I never once said that. I said, I said this point thing, this girl is getting this here. If I just wanted to smash a girl, I would treat her like this here. It that's a difference. I'm chasing this girl here. The other girls I'm not chasing, they're chasing me. It's a big difference in that. So how come you keep saying that I'm buying everybody something?

SPEAKER_09 35:24

That's what no, but that's what Mernica asked you in the beginning. G are you trying to court?

SPEAKER_07 35:29

And and and then I said, and then and then I said I said yes, I'm trying to court the girl over here that I'm buying something from. But see, y'all maybe say I'm doing everyone like that. It's that's not that's not true. That's not the case.

SPEAKER_09 35:44

Gee, we got over this case because of what you responded when she asked you.

SPEAKER_07 35:47

But yeah, but it, but no, son, I don't have too much down Julio. I apologize. I ain't here say that because I'm not buying nobody, nothing but one person.

SPEAKER_11 35:58

Right. Well, it just sounded like it was something else. But oh my mom's not.

SPEAKER_07 36:05

Oh, my mama like, I'm serious. If it's not, hey, I don't like my mama. For real, for real.

SPEAKER_09 36:10

Because gee, that's what it sounded like. Like she was doing multiples and not just focused on this one woman, huh?

SPEAKER_07 36:16

Well, I tell you the other day, this is the only girl that I I say good morning to. Oh, come on now, for real.

SPEAKER_09 36:23

Oh my god. Okay, we call me because of how you were responding to the questions. You responded to the questions as if no, we're not dating. We're not just courting, which means I can court multiple other people outside of this.

SPEAKER_07 36:39

See, see, see, look, see look, that's your mentality. If I chase you, don't you find it? If I don't chase you, you might call me at night, like, come over, daddy. I don't want to be having no other woman on me, and then and then she might got something down no. No, I don't think like that. And I just say that my mouth, my I raised by a single parent. My mom raised me, so right, I was raised right. I'm never sitting there and and and and run around. And I just said I'm scared. I said that too. Cause I did my homework.

SPEAKER_08 37:09

Oh no, you did say that. You did say that on this day.

SPEAKER_07 37:11

I said, I said, I said I said, I ain't trying to catch nothing. Like, come on now. Now look, y'all gotta read between lines because that's how the guys is around y'all, but not but no, no, no.

What Counts As Dating

SPEAKER_09 37:22

You said it was okay to give the one that you was courting or whatever, flowers and gifts and dinner and all that because you're trying to court her. Right, but it's no, it's nothing wrong with being at the bar and buying somebody else drinks. That's what you said.

SPEAKER_07 37:45

See, you misunderstood what I said. I said, if I was trying to smash, correct? You bring the word smash, remember? You bring up smash. Now, it's a difference between smash and courting. That was the word at first, and I said, You're right about that. If I was just trying to smash somebody, I would take them to a bar and buy them a drink. And I should have said smash after that. But no, I don't want nobody, I just can smash because I'm scared of the people out here. It's a lot, and I said this here, it's a lot of things going around here, and I ain't trying to be one of them persons that coach something and then look, I take it back to a girl. You know what I'm saying? At a time that it do happen. See, no, I'm a real individual, I'm I'm a real man that knows how to treat a woman. And I said that again. It what you do is how you do it. I might talk fast. I think so right, so sorry, I think I need to slow down a little bit because I I know the difference.

SPEAKER_11 38:36

Okay, well, I misunderstood you. So if it's like that, then well, that's well appreciated, okay.

SPEAKER_07 38:41

Because thank you.

SPEAKER_09 38:42

Because right now I'm saying we we want men out here that's able to communicate and do what they say and say what they do.

SPEAKER_07 38:49

Hey, no, you say that, but that's the problem. No, you say that you say that, but other people don't think like that though. And I and I ain't gonna say no name, but you might want that.

SPEAKER_09 38:59

That's that's how that's women, that's women, yeah. That's women. The majority of the women now, whether they say it or not, is a different subject. But 95% of the women, that's how they think. We want you to mean what you say and say what you mean.

SPEAKER_07 39:14

Cause I done had girls say, I don't, I don't want to think, I just want to get nailed. I just want to smash.

SPEAKER_09 39:20

That's true too. But see, it's all depends on if it's a yeah, that's what's gone blowing.

SPEAKER_07 39:24

I'll be honest, I'd be scared to just smash somebody because if you tell me you want to smash me, you want to smash him, him, him, and him. Man, people have I'm talking about in one summer, girls' body count be like 2530. That's a lot of niggas.

SPEAKER_09 39:41

But but but but but the real question is like what why is that your why are you worried about that? Why is that your business?

SPEAKER_11 39:48

What what she smashed before you?

SPEAKER_07 39:52

Good question. It's not the reason I don't care. Why are you asking me and then I'm looking at you like you a hoe? I'm saying you might get something.

SPEAKER_09 40:04

So I say that's the risk that she has by asking you that. So she's just being open and honest. And that's and I and I really get pissed because when men be open to just have a one-night stand, it's okay.

SPEAKER_11 40:20

But when women offer in the beginning, they looked as oh, you probably do this shit all the time, you a hoe. When men do it all the time.

SPEAKER_07 40:29

No, and you know something. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_11 40:30

But when women on the flip side, keep it real, I feel like we we've we've looked down upon.

SPEAKER_07 40:35

See, see, no, see, see, listen, me personally, I probably use the wrong personal words, and I apologize, but at the same time, though, I can't change the way see, a woman can drive on me and then want to get nailed. That's cool, finding dandy. But I prefer it to be a low body count. I don't trip on a body count, but if you're in the high 20s in the summer, how many days in the summer? 60 days in the summer. You got half the summer days already took them over already. Like, come on now.

SPEAKER_09 41:02

Okay, so so listen, so if I smash 20 dudes the year before, that's okay. Long as I didn't smash them the current year.

SPEAKER_07 41:10

No, no, no, see, it's not about how many you smash. I mean, you have a high smash count, but it's 60 days, you cannot have 25 bodies in 60 days.

SPEAKER_09 41:19

But if I had 25 body counts a year ago, that's okay. Yeah. In 60 days though, you feel me? Well, this doesn't make it my body count, is my body count.

SPEAKER_07 41:29

It's your body count, but hold on. You got three hundred now now. Look, we can do the math on this tip. What's the percentage uh uh uh 25 and 365? Now do the percentage uh uh uh 25 and 60 days. That's like three per day.

SPEAKER_09 41:45

Okay, again, my body count is what it is a year ago, it's gonna average out the same.

SPEAKER_07 41:51

Oh no, but see, but see, here's the thing though, you have 365 days in a year compared to 60 days out of I mean, like that's I was that's two months. That's two months.

SPEAKER_09 42:06

My thing was if if I told you my body count was that many last year, you you averaged out to 365. It could have just been in 90 days.

unknown 42:18

Well, well, look, be real.

SPEAKER_09 42:20

But just the fact that it was last year don't mean it was the last 365 days, it just means that last year I fucked 90 people.

SPEAKER_07 42:28

Like me personally, I'm going off if if you say in a year, I'm going off 365.

SPEAKER_09 42:33

But right. But that's not what that technically means. It could just mean last year, I fucked nine people, but those nine people could have been at the last two weeks of December.

SPEAKER_06 42:44

Okay, you're right.

SPEAKER_09 42:45

But if you say you So what's the difference in the body count?

SPEAKER_07 42:51

See, see, see the difference I don't know. But if you clearly say, if you clearly state June and oh, I mean July and August, you got 25 bodies, that's a problem. That's with anybody. Now, if I tell you you got 25 bodies in 60 days, a woman feels the type of way.

SPEAKER_11 43:11

First of all, I don't know why you're just closing with each other body counts. I don't think people really honestly do that anyway. They shouldn't.

SPEAKER_07 43:20

No, they shouldn't, right? But I'm I'm just saying though, I just that's just hypothetical. You know what I'm saying? So so so so let me ask y'all so right. What y'all think about the board? I'm saying if you had going on.

SPEAKER_03 43:32

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_11 43:39

Hold on, hold on. I'm just saying, y'all, we gotta keep it real, man. These are crazy, like hypotheticals. This shit's not real. I'm not gonna tell nobody how many niggas I banged, and I'm sure he ain't gonna tell me how many bitches everybody can see.

SPEAKER_06 43:55

But see, but see, but see, once again, you can speak for you. You can't speak for the the other race.

SPEAKER_08 44:04

The other race. You mean the other races on the kill is not as high?

SPEAKER_07 44:08

No, no, I ain't saying that. See, see, see, see, look. And this real this facts. They want to be, what's what I look for? They want to be a quote. I mean, that's what I look for. They want to be truthful. You know what I'm saying? And they, okay, I slept with uh so and so. It's come out the body coming 25 in two months. It's came out of people's mouths before. That's all I'm saying. I seen a person say that there. I'm like, damn, that's a lot. In 60 days. Now, I'm gonna and that's that's like I told Camille the other day.

SPEAKER_06 44:40

Black people and white people think different. Black people fell to realize that. They think differently.

SPEAKER_07 44:48

You know what I'm saying? And then we had to talk about this here. That's right. You can't sit and say what you won't say, and you're right about that. You can say what you won't say, but you can't say what the next person is.

SPEAKER_09 44:57

That's my opinion.

Body Count, Double Standards, Safety

SPEAKER_07 44:59

You know?

SPEAKER_09 45:01

Oh, let me let me ask, let me ask both of you guys this, right? So okay, so say you date somebody for 60, 90 days. Oh yeah, it's it's going amazing. The conversation is on point, the the dating and the dinners, the gifts, whatever, all on point, right? Now no sex involved, but for 60 days you've dated this individual and it's amazing, and you all have sex, and it's trash.

unknown 45:36

I told you the other day.

SPEAKER_07 45:38

You told me, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

SPEAKER_09 45:43

He can't give head, his dick.

SPEAKER_07 45:47

It's like Auntie Monica. I gotta tell you something.

SPEAKER_09 45:51

You gotta say as a female. I gotta tell you, Uncle Monica. You can work with some penis, right? But G, if his penis is like his belly button, right? You can't give head at all. But the dating has been amazing. Like you, like a good guy, like he's an amazing guy. Amazing.

unknown 46:16

I would roll out with it.

SPEAKER_07 46:17

Can I say something? I told her the same thing. She told me that that can be looked over. I told her like a jog interview.

SPEAKER_09 46:29

And I told her, nigga, no, I'm doing it and then I told her everything good, but if the drawers are bad, it it can't work out.

SPEAKER_07 46:39

She snapped, she took up on like no, no, no. Now, see what I mean? Now you in that same boat I was talking about. Those draws weren't right. You say he can't get on here.

unknown 46:53

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_09 46:55

You better tell me that okay, wait. Monica, Monica, let me get your answer and then back, I'm gonna get your answer. So, Monica, what's your answer? If if the the dating for six months is amazing, he is treating you nothing less than the queen that you are, but the sex is horrible. What you doing? You stay in or you out? I mean, you know, at this age, a lot of things is not as important as it was when I was younger, you know? So quality over quantity or size, where it matters, you know what I'm saying? I I think I would, I would, I would definitely try to I'll work that out.

SPEAKER_07 47:49

I'm not when you should code it. I'm gonna keep it real, I'm gonna keep it uncut. I'm gone. I said this other day. If on draws in, I don't care if the the dating going good or whole, it's two things you gotta have right. You gotta be able to cook, and if your draws are bogus and it's trash, you go in the trash. I'm gone. I don't care. What's trashy coochie? Huh? She said that he can't get head, and the thing is bogus. So you oh wow.

SPEAKER_09 48:16

That's for me though.

SPEAKER_08 48:18

That's for me though, for a male.

SPEAKER_09 48:20

So so so well, how would it apply with the female for you? Like what is bad sex a turn off for you with a female, or or or or can a female have bad sex?

unknown 48:29

Yeah, they can't.

SPEAKER_03 48:32

Yeah, they can't be bad sex. What is it?

SPEAKER_07 48:34

No bad sex, no, no rhythm, no ball, straight rookie, especially if you can't get no top. That's worse than they can't cook. You get everything wrong. Huh?

SPEAKER_09 48:46

What's top? Uh oh, what's topic? Hey, uh, I don't like that. No, here we go. I don't like that.

SPEAKER_11 48:54

Oh, here we go.

SPEAKER_09 48:55

I don't do that. I don't do that unless I really, really, really, really like you. Well, that's I do it, but nigga, you're not getting that shit till a year or two later. See, see, hey, yeah, that's a hard note. That's hard.

SPEAKER_07 49:09

See what I mean? You don't say social right.

SPEAKER_09 49:11

If I'm real fucked up and horny and shit, oh I might.

SPEAKER_07 49:15

But no, though, me personally, see, me personally, now now I'm a scorpio. Now, if you can't meet me halfway or or or at least try, come on now. It's bad enough. I gotta cook. It's bad enough. I gotta cook the meal because you can't cook. And it and then if you try to get intimate and you can't do the right things, I'm gonna get you cock at it.

SPEAKER_09 49:39

You can't knock me off. Bad sex was the no-walls thing. What is no walls? You can't feel you can't.

SPEAKER_07 49:45

I mean, I mean, I'm I'm I mean, I'm I mean it's straight air. And then another thing is you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_08 49:49

Straight air.

SPEAKER_07 49:50

Yeah, I'm talking about it's just like it just see she she she I like having a podcast with y'all because y'all maybe want to get into detail. So this time I'm gonna try to avoid that. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_09 50:02

We women, we know.

SPEAKER_07 50:04

We old ladies, old ladies at the same time though, you know, it's just like I mean, like for real. I mean, I mean, like that's like I said the other day, I have standards now. If you can't entice me, I can't be around because why am I around? You already mom, I got a pet peeve. You can't cook. Oh man, that's a problem. And then shouldn't be, huh? But then it's but but but then the sex is bad.

SPEAKER_09 50:31

What's there? No, no, because he's right too wrong. Well, because he is it's not like five senses, right? Huh? Hold on, it's like the five senses, but that's his preference, though. He said that's that's his shit. You know, he he doesn't know any better. Because here's the thing who don't know any better, you got five senses. You oh wow, five senses hearing, touching, feeling. You know the five senses, right?

unknown 50:55

Wow.

SPEAKER_09 50:56

Normally, if you can't hear, you can see very well, and vice versa. If you can't see, your hearing is enhanced. Okay, so if I can't cook, then I have other enhancements. So I told you if I can't cook, but everything else is on point, you're gonna bring your ass in there and cook me and you a meal every time. Okay, and you ain't gonna have a problem with it, none whatsoever. The house clean, clothes, wash, kids, put the bed. You're gonna come in there and cook whatever it is that uses want.

SPEAKER_07 51:35

You're okay. I'll be honest with you. I told you I told her yesterday, other day. I ain't going at gunpoint. Oh, me hostage. I'm not working no all the hours, then come home, and then all no, come on, man.

SPEAKER_08 51:49

See you will though, huh?

SPEAKER_11 51:52

You will, you will want to he's not understandable when you come.

SPEAKER_07 52:00

No, no, no, no, no, no, hold on. Type up. I understand. And hold on, I understand. My name is Baptiste. Honestly, I'm not going at gunpoint, and I mean that.

SPEAKER_09 52:12

I can stand on my it's not gun point, G. It ain't this is what I'm trying to tell you. Absolutely not. It's not this is what you're going to want to do. You ain't it's not gonna be nothing on the stove when you get to the house, okay? Not no hot dog water, nothing. Okay, nothing to crock pop, microwave, nothing. Okay, but if you know how your night and weekend is gonna go with being with a female that doesn't like to cook, can't cook, but everything else is on point.

SPEAKER_07 52:48

Listen, I hear what you're going with. I'm trying not to say what I'm gonna say because I will say something. First of all, I don't give a I don't care how good it is, I don't get I don't care how good the top is. You know what I'm saying? If I gotta work 50 to 60 hours a week, you're there for a reason too.

SPEAKER_09 53:09

You there for reason two. So that's a deal breaker. She said, Look, that's a good thing.

SPEAKER_07 53:15

I mean, and then and then it's come on now, for real. Listen, I go to work at six o'clock in the morning, I'm com home at 11. Four days a week. I mean, five days a week, and then sometimes I work on Saturday. Um, and then look, and and then look, I'm working to build a house. I move up, you move up with me, and at the same time, you don't got this shit.

SPEAKER_09 53:33

But but again, G, is she is she doing the same thing? Is she a stay-at-home mom, or is she working those same nine to five, nine to nine hours that you working? First of all, if I'm working these same nine to five, nine to nine hours that you're working, you expect me to come in every day and cook you a meal and have it ready when you come in at ten.

SPEAKER_07 53:56

Women I did work seven to three. Okay, you work eight hours, and nine out of ten, they nurses. I mean CNA's. I'm not chasing no no nobody that's in the warehouse, I'm not chasing nobody that's up in uh trust anything like that because that's like that's manual labor. So, right, that'd be extra extra. So, me personally, if if I see that your job is light, and then it's like you can come home, throw some in a crock pot. You can come home and do something. I said to come home at 10 o'clock. The nurse's life is easy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I see it.

SPEAKER_09 54:38

I literally got a nurse on the phone, she can vouch for that or not.

SPEAKER_07 54:43

I'm not saying all nurses, I'm not saying all nurses.

SPEAKER_09 54:45

Oh, okay. I can see all nurses, but literally here's Monica because my auntie, auntie, auntie is in the nursing field.

SPEAKER_07 54:53

So so he made it but here. Um I'm seriously, I'm I'm being dead serious. Now, I respect what they do, but here it's just laziness. Now, if I feel like they had a hard life and and things hard, I wouldn't say that, but if you have them, they quit work to be uh uh uh a stay-at-home mom and no food still been made. Now come on now. But see, I gotta bring home two thousand dollars a week just to nail you for what would you be able to first of all? Will you be able to survive without me being here paying these bills?

Sex Versus Compatibility

SPEAKER_09 55:28

See, that's a different, that's a different way in right there.

SPEAKER_06 55:31

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. See, she nope, no, see, she knows you a good hot meal, huh?

SPEAKER_09 55:40

I said by all means if she's a stay-at-home mom.

SPEAKER_07 55:43

Stay-at-home mom or whatever. If you gotta feed your kid, cut me in at the same time. You get a kid. If if you cook something for the kid, nope, huh?

SPEAKER_06 55:55

No, nope, nope. Wow. Oh my lord.

SPEAKER_09 56:00

If I'm out there hustling and bustling just as you are, I I'm not cooking every day. I'm I'm just not. Now, if I'm a stay-at-home mom, then yeah, I'll give you that. But if I'm working and you're working, that's not gonna be better than me then. Because right, you kick your money. That's that's not having that's being selfish, actually. That's no compromise there. Why you have to respect my work just like I respect your work?

SPEAKER_11 56:31

See, that was a good point. I I you have me until that that part, because if we both working, like you can't expect me to put so much in when it's only 24 hours of the day, we get the same 24 hours. So, right I have to do it.

SPEAKER_07 56:48

Are you agreeing with are you agreeing with Camille or are you agreeing with me? Because it is, but at the same time, though, I'm agreeing with what's right.

SPEAKER_09 56:58

I believe what's fair in relationships, so right to compromise with each other, exactly. But with these, with listen, that with these cooked meals and you working 12 hours plus, are you paying 100% of those bills in the house? Yes, a hundred percent.

SPEAKER_07 57:17

Yes, because I'm saying I can stand if I'm if I'm working 12 hours a day plus overtime, five days a week, sometimes on Saturday, and then look, you're gonna work in uh uh eight-hour ship only getting between$13 and$15 an hour, baby, keep that. The fines, I take care of that. That's a man's responsibility. All that comes in hand, and and then I just exactly so right, so right, so right, so I look that go back to again. You know, I'm paying all the bills, I gotta expect something. You ain't paying nothing.

SPEAKER_09 57:54

Okay, okay. That's all I'm saying. I'm making making some hot dog water there.

SPEAKER_07 58:00

You know something don't I'm down. I had friends that that came home and did hamburgers on the stove. I mean hamburgers on the grill after working from 6 a.m. to 8 p.m. And she looking at me like, can you come nail me? Like, come on now for real. Like, like, man, I keep it real. Now I believe it's 50-50. If I'm paying all these bills and I'm doing this and doing that, and I come home to nothing, it was so bad I had to say something. Like, you know, you're wrong, right? You know what I'm saying? He ain't he got a hot dog, he ain't got a polish. I came there and made some jerk chicken before and gave my buddy some and I cooked it dry. But the kids loved it. Yeah, I mean, I mean, any what you do, any what you do, that's how you do it. You know what I'm saying? Like, like, come on now, you gotta be to work with a man. And see, that's the thing that tripped me out. Women think they got this all high. No, baby, I cut you off so fast and leave you right where you at. And let's see what other dude is gonna try to put you in a house, what other dude gonna try to do this for you. A lot of women don't notice that.

SPEAKER_09 59:10

Well, that's different if you're paying all the bills, yeah. Well, then, yeah, I totally agree. Me too. I'm gonna jump on ball. If not, if not, if you're paying all the bills, I wouldn't be working fucking full time. Shit.

SPEAKER_07 59:24

And then I said that they were working C and they then went home to be uh uh uh uh what it's called, stay-at-home mom. Like, are you for real?

SPEAKER_09 59:34

Yeah, but you do know that some of us don't know what that luxury feels like. No, I believe that to have an individual that pays a hundred percent of your bills.

SPEAKER_06 59:44

I I know that, yeah. Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_09 59:48

That's that's like believing in Santa Claus. Yeah, that's all right.

SPEAKER_07 59:52

That's Santa Claus, that's Easter Bunny, that's all the wishes in the world.

SPEAKER_09 59:56

On that thing was the look that looks or feels like.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:00

Well, no, though, I mean, like, I really appreciate this because right, I really want a form, I really want a woman's opinion on everything having to do in life. Cause a lot of women don't like listening to men because they think we're conniving, we're sneaky. And then honestly, it's honestly like we're not. I'm just trying to get an insight. How can I say it? Honestly, I'm trying to give them an insight of a man's mind. You understand what I'm saying? Because at the same time, though, you know, why you think you slick? He probably said, Bitch, you won't. I'll come home, I ain't got a meal ready. I'm getting tired of this here. That might step up. Hey, look, you better start cooking that man something to eat. Okay, if you don't, he'll go outside. So I buying him a Burger King, meet somebody in the driveway, and he's gonna be gone. Because no, I don't need you, I don't need you if you can't help me. Better know I'm working all the time, and then I ain't get that coochie from anywhere.

SPEAKER_09 1:00:53

Yeah, but oh, coochie, like you said, don't feel the same, don't you?

SPEAKER_07 1:00:57

True, true. That's why it's called doing your homework. If you got a if you got a six-pigger job, let's say if you're making a hundred thousand, you know what I'm saying? You working. You being noticed. You being noticed. Could not have them girls that get all them good jobs and everything, like the nurses and everything, them doctors, they gonna see you. They gonna see you. And then you might come up. But you got a lot of motherfucking bucketheads out here. Be thirsting the mountain line, trying to grab, hey, look, they were trying to grab a hole and and and and and like put their nails in their back. I'm just saying though, I see it. That's why I said though, if you can't cook, that's a problem. Cause I know what I bring to the table. That's why if you don't, that's like, listen, honestly, hey, the girl I like, I take care of like a motherfucker. I'll never say I ain't never shame to admit that. Ain't never ashamed. Never ashamed. Call me, call me sugar boy, sugar daddy, all that there.

SPEAKER_09 1:01:56

I am you never regretted. Have you ever regretted taking care of a woman in that way? No. Why should I have it ever backfired?

SPEAKER_06 1:02:07

Backfired like how?

SPEAKER_09 1:02:10

Like she man, like ran through your pockets big time.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:14

Oh, first of all, it see see no some with them. I gotta cut off limit. Honestly. See, by me being from the streets and in the game, like I told, it's like the drug game. If I can't see I can't make no money out you, after I try to flip you a couple of times, I gotta cut you off. And and and then it's like everybody got a limit. You know, and honestly, I'm I mean, like, the things that I've been through and seen in my lifetime, I learned how to manage money. That's why I don't care about money. Like people say about Valentine's Day. Okay. I had like six, seven bags. I spent like two or three hundred though. It's a price. I say it was a gift from each stove. My buddy pops me over here and tell you, like that boy slick. I mean, I mean, what you just like it's always the presentation. You know, and and then a lot of folks like out here, they never seen how like people, black folks treat holidays like Valentine's Day. What's another off-the-wall holiday? Like I say, I said the Fourth of July. And Swedish Day. I never heard of that before. Man, you know how women say I never heard of Swedish Day.

SPEAKER_08 1:03:30

Sweetest Day is a new thing.

SPEAKER_09 1:03:33

That's what you think. People in the South have never heard of Swedish Day. I can't even hear you. Really? I say yeah, I said I said Yankees thing. That's for people in the north. People in the South have never heard of Sweetest Day. Ever.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:46

Because y'all are tight.

SPEAKER_09 1:03:49

No, I think it's just a I think it's a up north thing.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:52

That's for the men.

SPEAKER_09 1:03:55

Right.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:55

That's for the men. Y'all got Valentine's Day, we got Sweetest Day.

SPEAKER_09 1:04:01

But yeah, that's a northern thing. Chicago, Detroit. Like that's that's that era. The people in the South has never heard of Sweetest Day. Don't even know what that is.

Cooking, Bills, And Fairness

SPEAKER_07 1:04:18

Yeah, though, but at the same time, though, that'd be my way of thinking. You know, and then I really like this conversation, you know, because a lot of people don't think like men do or women do. I mean like adult women. We ain't saying we're not a young niggas, and that's why I am. For all y'all that don't know. We all are adults here that have different opinions. You know what I'm saying? So, right, a lot of people be like, why you talk? Because I'm from Chicago, from the low end, and it's not the it's not the west side, it's the south side. But at the same time, though, look, this is episode one Auntie Monica and Millie G on Bab Talk Podcast. Stay tuned for episode two, that's coming up real soon. With that, I'd like to say thank y'all.