Ep 41: "The Power Of Some"

 On this episode, we explore the idea of “finding your tribe”.  These are the people who truly get you. We break down the benefits of building your circle, from connection and support to shared growth, while also examining the potential downsides of groupthink, exclusion, and losing your individuality. Join us as we discuss how Gen-Xers can balance belonging with staying true to themselves. 

Intro and Outro music by Erin Garris and Khari Garris 

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:14

Yo yo yo, what it is, what it was, what's it gonna be? Welcome. Welcome to the latest episode of the Gen Expertise Podcast, episode 41 entitled The Power of Sum. We are your hosts, Main and Rant, aka It Takes Two. What up, broham? What's going on, man? What's up, man?

SPEAKER_03 0:39

Good, man. How's everything?

SPEAKER_00 0:40

Everything is good, man. We actually usually tape a day earlier, but as we are recording today, it is Memorial Day. So as a brother, as a nephew, as a cousin, as a friend, to people who have served and are still in active duty. Special shout out for those who have lost their lives in duty to this country. So happy Memorial Day for those who have passed, for anyone who has friends and loved ones who have served, who have lost loved ones in the military. Happy Memorial Day to you guys.

SPEAKER_03 1:17

Um absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 1:20

Also, I found out I found something though on Memorial Day. Did you know the origins of Memorial Day?

SPEAKER_03 1:27

I know that has something to do with um with black soldiers.

SPEAKER_00 1:30

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:31

But I I don't have all the details to be honest with you, but I know you do.

SPEAKER_00 1:35

Yes, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:36

So hit us with it.

SPEAKER_00 1:38

It was created by General John A. Logan in 1868, and it was called uh Decoration Day, May 30th. On May 30th, 1868, Decoration Day. That's when it was like officially, officially recognized. But the true origins trace back three years earlier to May 1st, 1865, in Charleston, South Carolina. Where over 1,000 recently freed slaves and troops of color gathered at a former Confederate prison camp, and it was called the Martyrs of the Race Course Cemetery. Where they exhumed Union soldiers and put them in improper graves because they had died as a result of poor conditions from the Confederacy, and they put them in this mass grave and when they died in this camp, this prison camp for prisoners of war, I guess. Over 250 Union soldiers, white and black. I think the official number was 257. And they exhumed them and they reburied them and they put them in proper graves and they sang hymns and they placed flowers. So that's the official, official, unofficial origins of Memorial Day. May 1st 1865. And I did not know that.

SPEAKER_03 3:03

Yeah, I didn't know that until you saw that today.

SPEAKER_00 3:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 3:06

So that's very interesting.

SPEAKER_00 3:07

Yeah, yeah. I did not know that. So happy Memorial Day to those that have served, have given their life for this country. Salute to you guys. Um Yeah, we also lost a hip hop icon.

SPEAKER_03 3:19

Yeah, man. Rob bass.

SPEAKER_00 3:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 3:22

Rest in peace to Rob Bass.

SPEAKER_00 3:24

Rest in peace to Rob Bass.

SPEAKER_03 3:26

Yeah, man. Rob Bass, that song was a big deal. You know, to say the least, man. Like um, I remember that summer going to the pool in Roberto Comente Um State Park, right? And that that song, I just remember that song playing over and over and over. Because when you go to Roberto Roberto Comente State Park is right in the middle of like River Park Towers in the Bronx, right? Like so it's a kind of a, I guess, famous or infamous, however you say it. All of the above. Yeah, but it's kind of a famous. And at the time, um, I was living on Cedar Avenue in the Bronx. And we would just kind of make our way from Cedar all the way to um to River Park Towers, and then wait on the line to get into the pool over there. Um in Roberto Comente State Park. And as you're waiting there, a lot goes on out there because they know that there's families, there's kids out there waiting to get into the pool. And so there'll be ice cream trucks, there'll be people with their cars just blasting music. And I just remember like the summer that that It Takes 2 came out, it was just blasting over and over and over. Like you could not you could not escape that song for anything. Like there was nowhere you could go. But but I have this vivid memory for some reason of that summer, like standing on the line, waiting to get into Roberto Comente Park, um, into the pool. Um, and just hearing that that song over. Every call. Yeah, it was like the it was it was like the the soundtrack for that for that summer, right? Um but yeah, Rob Bass definitely had had an impact. Rile Bass and Easy Rock. So now we lost both we lost both Easy Rock. Um we lost Easy Rock a few years ago, and now Rob Bass, um, and he was 59 years old. He had just made made 59.

SPEAKER_01 5:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 5:12

Um so it's crazy, man. It's fairly young. It kind of speaks to some of the things that we that we talked about in terms of like health concerns and and like the life expectancy and midlife versus like two-thirds life. Um so it kind of gets home with somebody that young and and so much a part of like the culture.

SPEAKER_00 5:29

Yeah, it takes two. Uh he had then he had the follow it up with the joy and pain. Then I think he had another song, get away from the state. That was another one. The follow-up.

SPEAKER_03 5:41

Yeah, I love that song too. Yeah, joy and pain.

SPEAKER_00 5:44

Yeah, so R.I.P. to Rob Bass and DJ Easy Rock since they're both gone. Um, true story. I remember in the video, the Rob Bass video, there was a guy in the green, he had like this green Nike velore jumpsuit. Uh-huh. And I had my mother searching all over the Bronx with me. Shout out to my mother, because she I dragged her all over the Bronx, Fortham Road, anywhere, anywhere. We're going to do it. Was it a Dapper Dan suit? It was a Dapper Dan.

SPEAKER_03 6:15

It was like a Oh, so you wasn't, you wouldn't, you dude, you had no chance of finding that.

SPEAKER_00 6:18

I had no chance. I had no idea. I'm walking into every sneaker store, like, yo, I want the the the green Nike velore jumpsuit by Rob Base. And they were like, what? We don't sell that here. This is what we have. You know, they got the little nylon, nylon chumpies. And then I found out like it was custom made. But I was like, yo, I have to have that. And shout out to my mother for for putting up with me, dragging me all over the city looking for that. We can't I came home empty-handed, but you know, it's all about the journey.

SPEAKER_03 6:47

It's funny, it's funny you mentioned that because we were kind of uh like we were young, but then the older kids would have stuff like that, like the velour suits with the leather patches that would have like either Nike or or Gucci or Louis Vuitton. I'm gonna be honest with you, I didn't know where they were getting that stuff at first. Like I was the same as you. Like I was like, I saw us, I saw a few people with the Nike patches on the back of a velour suit. Um, and it was just like baffling, like, where'd they get this? And it wasn't till later I found out about Dapper Dan, like, you know, a few years later. Um, but at first, I was just like you. I'm like, wow, I've never seen that in a store. Yeah, I had to. Where they're getting this stuff, where they're getting this stuff from. And um, for those of you who don't know, like I think we're talking like like people, like everybody would know, and I think everybody should know, but um Dapper Dan was famous uh in in in Harlem in New York for basically customizing um kind of sweatsuits and all types of outfits, matter of fact, like jackets, coke, coats. But yeah, he would take like luxury brands and he would take the materials and make basically anything that you could afford. Um if you could go there in Harlem and see him in his store, you could he you could pretty much customize anything. He would customize even car um accessories. Like he would customize like your the tire cover for people's jeeps back in the day. You could have Gucci, yeah, um, all types of stuff, man. Just like made out of leather.

SPEAKER_00 8:16

And it was stuff like that the convertible tops, the bras for the lights. Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_03 8:20

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He would make everything from your outfit to stuff to go over the car. Um you could match all of it, right? And if and for a while as a kid, we didn't know where that stuff was coming from. We just knew that there's only certain certain type of people had it had that stuff, the people that could afford it in the neighborhood. Um, but yeah, yeah, that's that was that's a memory for me too, man. Because I I do remember a couple of people having that that Nike velore suit and thinking to myself, like, where where is this coming from?

SPEAKER_00 8:51

Yeah, man. We were all over the Bronx, man, all over the Bronx. And then when I got home, one of my one of my OGs was like, yo, son, that's custom. You can't find that, yeah, you're never gonna find that young fella.

SPEAKER_03 9:06

So but and if he did, and I think it and it and and if you did wind up like stumbling into Harlem and and and going to Dapadin, I'm sure your mother would I don't know, I don't know if your mother would have dropped the amount of money that it was to buy.

SPEAKER_00 9:20

Or if I would have came home at once, you'd have been like, where did you get that money for that? Where did you get that money for that?

SPEAKER_03 9:28

You would have been an instant after school special.

SPEAKER_00 9:30

Uh-huh. Yeah. So shout out to David there too, because I think he he finally starting to get his just dues, you know, on certain things.

SPEAKER_03 9:39

Yeah, for a few years now, he's been getting his just due. Like his partnership with Gucci. Um, he has the the haberdashery in in Harlem. Um so for for years now, I think he's been getting his just due. I think what happened was um there was a a fashion show where Louis Vuitton, I think, did something that was very similar to one of his older designs, right?

SPEAKER_00 10:01

Like in people said, I think it was that long bubble coat. They bit like his long bubble coat design, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:07

Yeah, so so it was a it was a it was a coke design, definitely, and it was in a fashion show, and somebody picked up on it, and it just went viral online that they were, you know, that that that the I think it was Louis Vuitton was actually picking up on something that he had done already. Um it might have been Gucci. It was either Gucci or Louis Vuitton that picked up on something that he had he had already done in terms of the at least the style that he was creating with the you know, the just the logos all over it and and the the just just something that Gucci or Louis Vuitton didn't even make at the time. So you could tell that they were influenced by him, even though he got a lot of flack for doing that back in the 80s.

SPEAKER_00 10:46

So he got shut down for that, didn't they run the run up on him?

SPEAKER_03 10:50

Yeah, he definitely got shut down for it. Um after you know, he had he had some legal trouble as a result of that. But but now, you know, you fast forward like 30, 40 years later, um, these brands they want to tap into a certain market, so they're using the same style that he was using when when he did it. And that went viral, and it caused them to kind of contact him. And I know they got a partnership at one point with Gucci.

SPEAKER_01 11:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:13

Uh I know that he he opened up um one of the first like kind of luxury fashion houses in in Harlem. So so yeah, that it's it's been it's been a few years now that he's been at least getting you know kind of the recognition that he deserves. Um yeah, so shout out to Dapadan for sure.

SPEAKER_00 11:28

Yeah, man. And and and and from what I remember, I believe that's where Mike Tyson was when he turned Mitch Blood Green's eye into taco meat. The info is the fight. I believe that was at Dapper Dan.

SPEAKER_03 11:41

Yeah, yeah, it was in front of Dapper Dan, I believe. Yeah, yeah, there's some of the interesting Dapper Dan fact that um Mike Tyson uh punched Mitch Green in the face in Harlem in front of Dapper Dan.

SPEAKER_00 11:54

Yeah, yeah, you never know. And you know, for the record, Mitch Green was a big man. Like he looked skinny on TV, but I used to ride the sixth train with him.

SPEAKER_03 12:03

I didn't know that either.

SPEAKER_00 12:05

Yo, this is when he's the end of his career when he was just out there. I would ride the sixth train with him sometimes when I was going to work later. This is way after he finished boxing. He's a big man, you know. Um so yeah, that's a little history for a little history for you guys.

SPEAKER_02 12:21

Have a history minute?

SPEAKER_00 12:23

A history minute, yeah. Oh, one more thing, too. One more thing, yo. Um uh Friday, baby boy the prince, my son. He turned one year old, so shout out to my son.

SPEAKER_02 12:33

Oh, I I didn't even realize that, man. Happy birthday to him, man.

SPEAKER_00 12:37

Shout out to him, baby boy the prince turned one year old, man.

SPEAKER_03 12:40

Yeah, happy birthday to him, man. That's amazing. Yeah, it does. It does. It definitely does, man.

SPEAKER_00 12:47

One day I may tell you guys the story of his uh how he came into this world. From the the funny story about him being born. But that's another day. It's another time.

SPEAKER_03 13:00

Yeah, let's let's let's save it for a for a whole episode.

SPEAKER_00 13:03

Yeah, yeah. So the power of some. I know you guys have heard about the power of one, but I was kind of inspired by I was watching uh uh um I was actually watching a documentary on like wolves and the pack, and also wild dogs too. So um I was looking at yeah, I look at a lot of nature, man. A lot of nate, that's my bag. YouTube, nature shows, PBS, nature, that's my thing. Um, anything science, anything nature. So I was watching wild dogs. First of all, wild dogs, quick fact, quick nerd fact for you. Wild dogs have the highest percentage like of capture and kill rate in the animal kingdom. Their success rate is like over 80%.

SPEAKER_03 13:49

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 13:50

Basically, what they do is they just hunt you down, they just run, they just run with you until you you get tired. It don't matter how many hours, how many days, or whatever. And they have this crazy pecking order where they have even have a nursery, they have it's it's crazy. They have those who hunt, those who stay back and watch the Cubs. And then I was watching like wolves. And and basically what I got out of it is that we're better in packs.

SPEAKER_03 14:13

If you want to be successful, yeah, that's yeah, that's a whole saying, right? Like if you want to go fast, go alone. If you want to go far, go together.

SPEAKER_00 14:22

Go together. An old African proverb, if I'm not mistaken. So today we're just gonna talk about the benefits of not being by yourself, of grouping up, finding your tribe, so to speak. We talked about that in like our first our first episode, finding finding your tribe. The benefits, maybe some non-beneficial from being in large groups and small groups and whatever, but that's what that's what today's topic is going to be about. Um so the first thing, let's just start right. Oh, and I also have I also have a surprise. I have some of Rant's favorite group up team up movies.

SPEAKER_03 15:04

Yes, uh that is a surprise. Even I'm surprised, ladies and gentlemen. I am surprised as well.

SPEAKER_00 15:10

So we're not we some of my favorite, mostly 80s. I think I got a couple of early, early, early 90s of them, but it's mostly 80s because I was going through the the movies, my favorite movies, and I said I have to narrow it down some way. So mostly like 80s, some of my favorite 80s team up movies. But first, let's just start off let's just start off with the lowest of the lowest hanging flu. Um loneliness. All right. So one of the benefits of being in a group or finding your tribe is to avoid lone loneliness. And I looked on the CDC website on CDC.org and I realized um that it's very unhealthy to be by yourself, especially as you get older. But just in how it affects your health, uh, heart disease and stroke, the risk goes up. Type 2 diabetes, the risk goes up. Depression and anxiety, the risk goes up. Dementia, the risk goes up, and an earlier death goes up. Dementia, there were some articles that I saw saying how being alone causes dementia, but I also saw a bunch of articles like disproving it. So it's one of those these things can cause. So there's no like guaranteed etched in stone fact about so they had a earlier uh earlier articles on it, and then they had some like rebuttal. So the the science can't prove it 100%, but it cannot disprove it as well. So but it it does have a it does have a um an effect on your mental health and wellness dementia. Um, as far as type 2 diabetes, that would go with like depression, because a lot of people, myself included, when I'm in a bad mood, I eat. It doesn't look like it, but I binge eat, son.

SPEAKER_03 17:04

Well, you know, same here. But it I'm sure it looks like it a little bit. I think a lot of people do. And and and this is an interesting point you're making too about all the preventative kind of benefits having a group of people um would have. Because this is the same benefits, I think, like almost one for one, the benefits that we described when we're talking about being married and having your wife in the home.

SPEAKER_01 17:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:27

So so I I I think the common denominator there though is is not just about whether or not you're married or you have a wife, um, but just that you have someone that cares about you to be around, right? Somebody that that kind of stimulates your mind and like feeds your, you know, the emotional need that you have, right? Because you talked about it right in the beginning of the show, dog packs and wolf packs, right? And that's one example, right? But but humans are also very tribal by by nature, right? Like we we um we started out as like kind of hunter-gatherer societies, like ancient humans have always been hunter-gatherers, and it requires the the the participation and cooperation of a group, right? For protection from predators, for learning new skills, for communication, for childcare. Like I think that's that it that's probably where you can kind of trace back the whole idea of um it takes a village to raise a child. It probably dates all the way back to ancient humans, where you would have, like you said, like um be in the dog packs, they have kind of a hierarchy. They have some that'll go hunt, they have some that will, like you said, come uh stay back and watch the curbs. Humans have those same type of hierarchies within their groups, and according to whatever skill set you have, whatever value you bring to the group, um, that's gonna determine where you where you kind of fall in the hierarchy. And sometimes if it's if it's uh uh you know, in certain types of groups, there is no hierarchy per se. There's just roles, right? Like there's just things that people do because they're either good at it or or it just kind of ends up that way, or it just makes the most sense for the for the collective that some people do. So yeah, and and the other thing you you caused me to think about, Rance, is that when we talk about this whole idea of um some and the tribe and and this this kind of like brings us full circle on a couple of things that we've talked about. We talked about this in prior episodes, um, in one way or another, right? Like we talked about this in Am I My Brothers Keeper. Um we talked about this in Survival of the Fittest. Um, you know, all it's kind of a common theme that you can kind of do things by on your own if you want to, right? But you're much better off if you have some sort of support system in the form of other people, whether that's a couple of good friends that you hang out with, whether that's a family structure, um, whether that's a group, you know, or or so or some some even if it's a kind of a formalized way where you're part of an organization, um, it just works out better for you in a lot of different ways, like socially and emotionally, and also physically, as you pointed out, if you have some sort of support system. And then you have like accountability, you have in that, like, you know, like I said, the emotional support, and you have somebody that can give you new perspective. Teaching you new skills is something that you you you have a lot better time gaining new skills if you're dependent on people that already have those skills, right? So, yeah, just a few things come to mind, man. Like, like and I I think we we've covered this before in different ways, but it's especially pertinent as time goes on, especially in the times that we're in now. It feels like it's especially relevant now with everything that's going on, right? I just wanted to kind of get that out because you you just sparked me to think through um a couple of things real quick, because um we're in a situation where everybody should have some sort of support system. Like find your tribe is is a call to action for this episode because it's probably more important now than than it has been in a long time. Um, and it's becoming more and more so, right? At least in my opinion.

SPEAKER_00 20:56

At the very minimum, we were made to at least run in running twos. We were made in sets. So at the very least, we should be walking around in twos, you know, and like you said earlier times, this uh packs are for survival. Um food, the hunter the gatherers, shelter, um, safety. When we were running around naked and loincloths, and and you know, it's winter time. You need a group, you have to bundle up. You may find a cave or something, you may have to bundle up and you have to sleep in tight quarters to keep going. Just as cuddle buddies, you give your cuddle buddies, son. Just to stay cuffing season, son.

SPEAKER_03 21:42

It might have ancient origins.

SPEAKER_00 21:44

Yo, it has roots and necessity, yo. You know what I mean? It had to survive. It was about cuffing season was literally about survival back in the earliest of earliest days. So it was responsible for food, shelter, and safety. And you may not know how to make a Fire. So if you're out there by yourself, you don't know how to make fire. So there you need somebody who knows how to make fire.

SPEAKER_03 22:06

Right. Yeah, you need a you need like diversity of skills, right? And you need diversity of knowledge, right? And then if you're in a group, it's more likely that knowledge could be passed down. Because one of the oldest technologies that we have, right? And this, and and when I say technology, some people might not see this as a technology, but it just means that that we've advanced to a point where this is our way of passing things, passing knowledge, right? But one of the oldest technologies is our language, right? Our ability to communicate through language is probably what makes us pretty unique in a sense, right? Like I know that other animals have a way have ways to communicate, and there's there's even animals that can mimic us, like a parrot can can say a few words, and you know, you know, there's been there's been studies that show that that um chimpanzees can can can have some some sort of rudimentary rudimentary conversation conversation. And even yeah, even use sign language, and even dolphins have like sounds that they make that you know in whales and so on, right? But humans have like a uniqueness in in terms of their ability to communicate and pass on information, remember things, think in the abstract. Um you we can have conversations and gossip, which is um which is actually extremely important, right? Like gossip is another thing that has a negative connotation. But gossip in a sense that you could you you would need to know like if somebody hates you in the tribe, right? That's something that you kind of need to know, right?

SPEAKER_00 23:30

Yeah, you might want somebody to give you a heads up on that, son.

SPEAKER_03 23:32

Yeah, you want somebody to give you a heads up, or somebody's kind of no good or or greedy or or whatever the case may be. That's something that you need to let everybody know. Like, hey, this person is gonna eat all of the bison. Or they're gonna fish, they're gonna fish all the fish and and leave none for the rest of the tribe, or they're planning, they're planning to make a break for all of our all of our loincloths and all of our fur, all the fur that we have, they're gonna take it, right? So, but but the point is that that um you know communication is extremely important for passing that passing on information, for teaching skills, um, for warning people of danger. It's it's something that's unique to humans, at least in the way that we use it. Like um, so that's another important aspect of of community and of having a tribe is the passing of information. Because we could pass information in the abstract. Like I can tell you, I can even use communication to to make a deal with you. I could say, hey Rance, if you give me, you know, some of that, some of your fish right now, you know, tomorrow I'll go with you and we'll hunt and we'll we'll we'll get as many elk as you want. And I'll stay out, you know, like that you we can we can kind of barter in the abstract where you don't have to see it in front of you.

SPEAKER_00 24:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:46

I can I can tell you about something in the future. And that's one of the things that makes humans um unique, right?

SPEAKER_00 24:52

Yeah. And I can fish and you can hunt, but you may not be able to fish, and I may not be able to hunt. If I'm out here by myself and fishing season is down, I can't catch no rabbits or no bison or or no woolly mammoths or whatever they was chasing down back in the Yeah, I think we're mixing up a lot of errors and a lot of different things. We put them all in the back. You know, don't hunt down them woolly mammoths, man. You can't do that by yourself, son. You need a crew. That's why it's important to pack up, to pack up sometimes. It also reduces stress um and it boosts happiness. And it gives you a reliable support system because it's kind of kind of like the more the merrier, where you'll always have somebody that you can talk to. Maybe if you can't relate, somebody else can relate to what I'm talking about and going through. Um so the support system there is really is is is really important. And you know, that's why you don't want to be old and by yourself. You don't want to be there talking to yourself because sometimes you start talking to yourself, you may start answering yourself. And that goes into what I was saying to that low-hanging fruit section with the dementia, the depression, and anxiety. So, so it's important. Survival is a survival is the is is the best thing. And also, I I saw um from psychology today, I read an article by Guy Winch. He's a PhD, and he said the importance of belonging to a tribe because those with a strong sense of group identify or are impacted less severely and recover more quickly when they experience bias or bigotry as well.

SPEAKER_03 26:37

Right. So that that's another interesting point, right? Because I I was gonna say that um maybe part of the downside of of your tribe sometimes could be that you know you identify with you know what I would say is an outgroup, right? Like so that could be kind of a negative of a tribe, right? Like because we described all the positive stuff and and I'm sure, you know, we'll get more into that, but but what you just mentioned, like about bigotry, like it there's a there's a certain um kind of aspect of of a tribe or a group that considers themselves tribal or um forms a type of bond where where like their their bond is based solely on maybe geographics or ethnicity or or whatever the case may be. Like like you know, I I find that that that that that can be sort of a negative in terms of like I said, um you start to form like kind of a negative bias towards people that are not part of your tribe. And that's where that's where this can get into a negative territory where you you have biases towards out groups, so to speak, right? You start to see your tribe as the only right, right? And everybody else is wrong or they're out or um they don't belong. What gets formed is kind of like a hive mentality where because you're so dependent on this tribe, because you're so used to this tribe, because you you love this tribe, you you're willing to kind of um believe whatever the tribe believes. You kind of go along with a kind of a group think, which is helpful in some aspects. Like we were saying, like if you need to go hunt, if you need to gather, if you need to cooperate as somebody, if you need to build something as a group, um, these things are necessary. That people be on one accord is extremely important and it is it's um it's helpful. But then where it gets into like a negative, um is where you're counting every other group that's not part of your tribe as some sort of um adversary or an enemy. It just made me think of that when you when you just to mention a bigotry, like it's it's just one of those things like where I feel like we still have as much as we're kind of technologically advanced, we're still humans, right? Like we're still at the end of the day, um, we're still carrying a lot of our ancient programming, I should say, right? Like I guess is the the best way to put it. Um we're we're carrying a lot of ancient programming, and part of that ancient programming is to stick to our traveling, stick to our group and and kind of be um a little defensive and and leery of of of those that are not part of that that that immediate group. At least that can be the case. But if if we are if we allow like our if we don't allow our reason to kind of like you know get the better of that, then um then that's where it can go. Even to the point of like, you know, war and and and kind of chaos can ensue as a result of that. And we've seen that throughout history that um groups form and then they kind of see every other group outside of that as an as some sort of adversary. A competition for resources and and a um kind of a scarcity mindset takes takes hold as well, right?

SPEAKER_00 29:41

Yeah, so that's some of the negative aspects of I guess they that's what they call tribalism as well.

SPEAKER_03 29:46

Sure. Have you ever read um have you ever read Sapiens? No. So Sapiens is an interesting book. Um it's by Uval Noah Harari, if I'm if I'm pronouncing his name right, but it's basically a um a short history of of humankind, right? Is is I guess the subtitle of that. But Sapiens talks a lot about what we're basically what we're describing, like at least at least it starts with that. It starts from like ancient humans with Neanderthals and Sapiens. Um and just like what happens if a competition ensues for for resources and and some other things that can happen as a result of that. Good and bad. The tribe or or having your group that you depend on can be your saving grace, right? Like it could be what actually saves your life at the end of the day, but it can also be what causes you conflict with with every other group. And it could be based on differences that you've manufactured as a result of being part of some getting used to just thinking in a certain way. Um, some of the differences that we have are are completely manufactured. So yeah, um, Sapiens by Noah Harari is a is is definitely a book I'd recommend. Um, that it's probably a topic for a different time, but but it definitely starts out with ancient humans and our our need for the for the for that for the tribe.

SPEAKER_00 31:07

And uh, there's your book. And we haven't said that. We haven't said that in a minute. We've been saying books, but we haven't thrown out that there's your book. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 31:19

Yeah, check that out. Sapiens by um Yivar Noah Harari. Um I'm gonna have to check it out to stick it out. He's actually pretty um, he's pretty famous nowadays, man. If you look him up on YouTube or if you just look him up on social media, you're gonna find many clips because he he talks not only about kind of um this this idea of tribalism amongst humans, but just a lot of um, he has a lot of opinions about even um contemporary times, like where uh he talks a lot about artificial intelligence and where he thinks that's gonna lead us, stuff like that. And you may not agree with everything he says, because I I certainly don't agree with everything that Noah Harari says, but um but he gives you f a lot of good food for thought, I should say, because there's nobody I 100% agree with anywhere. But I enjoy listening to what he has to say in his interviews, and I enjoyed his book and gave me a perspective that I didn't have before on on humans and the way we're interacting, and this whole idea that that we're kind of we're working on like kind of an ancient programming, like we're our operating system hasn't really changed much, right? Like we we've become more advanced in more complex ways with with money and and technology. But at our core, we haven't changed a whole lot in terms of our our kind of core programming. The the idea that there's like pros and cons of of being tribal is something that I think people have been studying for for extremely long time. But I'm just like kind of coming to the realization that we haven't changed a whole lot since since ancient ancient humans.

SPEAKER_00 32:46

Yeah, we're still functioning on that analog. Yeah, we're original analog programming.

SPEAKER_03 32:52

Right. Like we we function as if there's a scarcity of resources, and then we function as if every every other group is is a is an adversary or a threat to to our resources, right? That's definitely something that I um you know it's just something that I that I had to think think think about a lot more lately.

SPEAKER_00 33:18

Yeah, but in reality there's enough to go around, basically.

SPEAKER_03 33:22

Yeah. I had to plug in my technology. I I had something I feel like that was about to die. So a little technical.

SPEAKER_00 33:36

A little technical, typical. Yeah, thank God you're you're our in-house tech support.

SPEAKER_03 33:41

Yeah, yeah. Thank goodness I know how to read error messages quickly and and remedy things.

SPEAKER_00 33:48

So, what are the things that I find most helpful in being in a group? You know, I'm the health side guy, you know what I mean? So just working out, finding a group of people to work out with. You have your gym bros. You I think what do the what do the women call their gym gals? Do they do they have a name?

SPEAKER_03 34:07

I'm gonna be honest with you, I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_00 34:09

That's a good I've never you know what I've never heard like a gym bros um or gym gals or gym women or gym what's the equivalent to gym bros for for women? Yeah, what is the equivalent for gym bros for women? Let us know.

SPEAKER_03 34:24

The funny thing is that women probably we don't have like we call them friends. Women probably just girlfriends is something that call them like, yeah, it's Joe from the gym. Yeah, we don't have them.

SPEAKER_00 34:36

We take up like men, manly men, Jim Bros.

SPEAKER_03 34:39

You gotta have Jim Bros. Yeah, yeah. Women are probably like, yeah, I just met, I met, you know, I met Jen at the gym. You know, like I don't there's no name for her. Her name is her name.

SPEAKER_00 34:49

Yeah, which is crazy because they'll know each other's name. Yeah, like that's Jennifer, or that's Stacy, or that's Patricia, and we're like, yo, who's that? I don't know. That's um big man or or whatever. Or Chief or Champ.

SPEAKER_03 35:05

You know, that's the that's deadlift, dude. There's the the deadlift, dude.

SPEAKER_00 35:08

Yes, uh, yeah. You know, and and we're gonna do it.

SPEAKER_03 35:12

You know the spotter, the spotter, the spotter.

SPEAKER_00 35:15

We describe dudes by people by like what they're wearing, you know, like yo, you know the guy with the cutoff sleeves and the back of the top and everything.

SPEAKER_02 35:22

Cardio Calve, cardio, he turns on the cardio. He don't really mess with the weights, cardio.

SPEAKER_00 35:29

Yeah, man. Oh, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I know. You know his name? Nah, I don't know his name.

SPEAKER_03 35:38

Yeah, he call a dude what he does at the gym, you don't even know his name.

SPEAKER_00 35:47

Yeah, we barely even know our name. Where's Cardio?

SPEAKER_02 35:51

I haven't seen Cardio in weeks.

SPEAKER_00 35:52

You know, like I work out with a group of guys, and we all went into the gym by ourselves, and we've all kind of like formed this group, and none of us, we must have all gone like weeks and months saying we're stuck, giving each other head nods, you know what I mean? Even talking, and we never asked each other's name. Until one that's just I'd be like, yo, what's your name, man? You know what I mean? So let us know out there.

SPEAKER_03 36:20

Like me, I'm dead, I'm deadlift.

SPEAKER_00 36:22

Yeah, it's dead. Everybody has their specialty.

SPEAKER_03 36:27

Like, hi, deadlift. I'm I'm I'm best pressed.

SPEAKER_00 36:30

Yeah, man. That's Hitman. That's Hitman, high intensity, high intensity interval training man, hitman, you know. You know, but it is that's one of the good things about being in the group, though, that you push each other. And then, you know, there's a mutual growth. Um, you have accountability partners, and you have motivation, daily motivation. If you have a group of guys, even all you need is one person to be motivated, and they can and they can um they can spread that enthusiasm to the group, so to speak. So I've talked in the past about uh going out for with walks with friends of ours and and just just doing things in pairs or with three of us going to play sports. I have a group of people that I play tennis with all the time. Um that that we've become very we've very good friends, and we get out there and we exercise and you find out you start finding that you tell each other aspects of your life that you won't tell just the regular people on that you meet on the street or no, even some of your co-workers. So these it's it's it's important to have and it's also important to have friends at work, but I feel it's more important to have your friend groups outside of work, to be honest. That's just my personal preference.

SPEAKER_03 37:41

Right. Yeah, absolutely. Like you you you definitely need people that that are outside of out of outside of work because they bring in a perspective that you you may not get if if all you're playing up in the same place. This is an important point too, right? Because if all your friends are from the same kind of environment, you're missing something, right? Like you're missing a certain perspective, you're missing kind of that that that difference that sometimes you need, right? You need kind of a diversity in your friend group that's gonna kind of grow you and give you like kind of a different perspective, right? And I'm not saying you can't get that from inside places where you you're used to going. Like you can certainly get that from work or school or wherever the case may be. Like thing, there are places where you go on a regular basis where just by nature of there being a group of people there, there's gonna be enough difference there for you to get some perspectives, but but there's something to be said for kind of going outside of even your workplace where everybody's kind of used to the same conversation. Like you're complaining about the job, or you know, you're having that same old, like, hey, what here's what's happening at work type of conversation. Um instead of having conversations about things that have nothing to do with work, you have more of a higher percentage chance of defaulting to that same old conversation, the same old um kind of sessions of of complaint um kind of come up when you're talking to people from work, right?

SPEAKER_01 39:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 39:01

Um, and which is and and which is kind of good too, right? Like you need, like you said, you need both. Yeah, I think, because you do need people that could relate to you at work, that you could have that kind of session where you're like, you know what, I need to get blow off some steam and talk about hey, what just happened to a person that could actually relate. But I think it's important to get a break from that and talk to some other people and get some different perspectives because work tends to be a place where where people associate it with kind of stressors, right? Like you have to be there. You're you know, you're mandated to be there to get paid, and that's how a lot of people eat and feed their families. So you kind of start to associate that with something that sounds mandatory, where with friends outside of work are more of a choice, right? Like you they're more of something that that you that you did, you know, completely free of of any mandates. So yeah, I I definitely agree with you there. You you definitely have to have a friend group that that has nothing to do with with your job or whatever whatever your responsibilities are, like just so you get that different perspective, and so you're not associating this person with a place that you're kind of mandated to attend.

SPEAKER_00 40:04

And especially like what I do, because I'm a personal trainer, and nobody hires a personal trainer to hear a personal trainer's problems. So I need people while you're telling while you're telling like your personal trainer your your your problems and your life story and the things that frustrate you, you don't want him to take us take us a minute in between your sets and be like, yeah, but let me tell you how my day was going. They don't want to hear that, bro. So you you know what I mean? I need outside sources. But speaking of work, I also found another article where I looked, I looked this up on, I found this on vcomply.com and it was uh an article from February 2025 by Zoe Zoya. I'm sorry for mispronouncing your name, Zoya Khan. And uh in this article, they talked about the differences between small groups and large groups, specifically at the workplace. They use uh example of three to ten members. That's the example that they gave of small, uh, a small group, and then large group was 11 to 50 members. That's a large group. So some of the pros from working within a small group, a three to ten member group in the workplace was closer communication, clear roles, responsibilities, quicker decision making. That was some of the pros for being in a small group of three to ten members. Now, some of the cons that they had was challenges with large-scale projects, and overall was reliance on the stronger members of the group.

SPEAKER_03 41:34

Yeah, so so this is interesting, man, because there's another thing that that Noah Harari actually talks about. Like the size of the group actually matters in terms of the ability to, like I said before, gossip, right? Um, and gossip, again, is is not like in the traditional sense that a lot of us know gossip as like a neg with a negative connotation. It's gossip in the sense of like information that you actually would need in order to have like an easier and and and kind of less friction in your life, right? For the small group, it's easy, it's easier, like you said, for people to establish roles, for people to communicate ideas quickly, um, for people to gossip. And and that gossip, like I said, might mean that, hey, Rance is is stealing from the group, right? Rance hates Jermaine. You know, like just pass it on. But but you know what I'm saying? I'm I'm being extreme, but but like but that's part of of the the idea, right? Where is in a it the larger the group gets, the harder it it becomes to kind of communicate these ideas. And stuff like establishing even roles and and kind of hierarchies of leadership and hierarchies of of you know who does what basically is a lot easier when the group is smaller. Like a corporation, um, you know, upwards of like 150 people, at least according to Noah Harari, is like 150 people is kind of the limit to which you can have a strong bond with people, right? Like where you're in in a lot of communication and you know about these people, right? Like you kind of you know you can know 150 people, right? Beyond that, it becomes a lot more difficult for the group by itself to start to spread information and and give each other key information that they might need. I can lead 150 people myself, right? Or 150 people could understand me as the leader. But once you get past that, you get into thousands and thousands of people, you got to break up into like different types of hierarchies where you created departments. So you mentioned a corporation, and a corporation, once you get into the thousands of people, you need an HR department. You need, you know, you need that personnel, right? Like you need, you need IT, you need like finance, you need, you need all these different groups um that are specialized in order for those groups to form groups that are that are small enough and can and kind of uh manageable enough to communicate with each other effectively and to be effective at their role. Because you've gotten so big that one person can't be just the the leader without some sort of um groups, subgroups that that are assisting with that. Like and and just just Just in terms of communication. That's why corporations have even a crew, a whole comms department. They have a communication department for that reason, too. Right. So, yeah. So, so it just it's just one of those things, right? Like the tribe gets gets big and it starts to change its dynamic in terms of communication and who's gonna do what. Um, it starts to change its dynamic in terms of how leadership looks. You can't just be the alpha. Like if this if there's a hundred thousand of us, you're not yeah, just be the alpha, right? Like it doesn't work that way.

SPEAKER_00 44:30

We have to have easy to hide things from you now.

SPEAKER_03 44:33

Yeah, exactly. It's easy to hide things from from from you, and it's easy to hide things from each other. It just becomes more difficult to even try to communicate those things the bigger it gets. It becomes unmanageable. So you have to you have to kind of slice it up into more manageable chunks, so to speak, right?

SPEAKER_00 44:47

It's kind of like the law of diminishing returns, and that's a good point. Yeah, sort of because that what's what they said about you basically hit it right on the head when they said the large groups of 11 to 50 plus. And the pro the pros are there's a diverse perspectives and skill sets. So where you have the smaller group, they may be good at a lot of things, but not great at one thing. So the more people you have, the more, the more you have somebody with a specific set of skills, and that's when you talked about breaking up into HR operations department, such and such. Um more structured, more structured communications because you have to have a distinct line of of communication going down the pipeline because there's so many people. And then the specialized roles and resources, once again. Um so, but the cons are coordination challenges because there's so many people, right, right, exactly. And then goal alignment. Everyone's not always on the same page, and then it has disengagement, and then there's an even higher potential for conflict because now what do they say? Uh too many chefs in the kitchen. So even though you have all of these specific these specific specialized units within the whole, everyone in that unit now thinks they're the chief of that particular unit, and now you have all these different chiefs in these specialized roles fighting. So that's what uh the cons of a of higher potential. There's a higher potential of conflict, but they really thrive at large-scale projects because you have so many hands on deck.

SPEAKER_03 46:27

Right. That's that's that's interesting too, because in a corporation, the you know, you touched on something that resonates because it becomes harder to kind of uh communicate the goal of the group, right? Like the but the larger the group gets, it's harder to to get everybody on the same page, basically. When you have a corporation, you kind of have a set of like values and and a set of goals that are kind of overarching for the corporation, usually, right? Like at least in in any place that I've ever worked, there's been kind of like a set of of these, you know, core values and core things that everybody should be working towards, right? So I'll give you an example. It might just be something like making sure that all the data is secure, something like that. Every at any any place like a bank wants to make sure that you know they're secure in their data, right? So that might be one of those things that that you keep communicating across the whole org. So it doesn't matter what subgroup you're part of, you know that as an organization, we're about protecting data. We we protect our customers' data. And I'm just throwing that out there as a wild example, but but it'll be something like that. You have to communicate that in a way that every subgroup communicates that amongst their subgroup. And then you have like a consensus amongst a large organization that this is one of our key things that we're trying to accomplish. This is a key goal, this is part of our values, and everyone needs to work towards this, right? Or you are not part of this particular tribe. Um, if you want to be part of this tribe, here's what this tribe does. And if you don't do anything else, you do these key things, right? And everything else you do should be informed by these key things, right? So I don't have to tell you, you'll be able to look at these key things and say, does what I'm doing right now fall into these categories or does it does it help these overall goals? If not, then maybe it's something that you should talk to, you know, talk to the subgroup about, or talk to whoever's leading that subgroup. So alignment is extremely important. When you have bigger groups, the the how to achieve alignment becomes more of a challenge. But it's definitely easier when you have a smaller group.

SPEAKER_00 48:30

Yeah. And this is a true story. In one of the places that I worked, um, they had become so big that the owner of the place, the CEO or whatever, they would have like weekly calls, and I would literally sit in the office and listen on meetings while they while they said, Don't tell them this, don't tell them that, don't tell them this, don't tell them that. While they per they just basically fed information what they wanted that person to know. So that's that's what's that's one of the the cons of growth. And once you get too big, you know, it's it's becomes unmanageable for the person, the one person in charge, it becomes uh unmanageable. So that's that's the pros and cons of of uh large and smaller groups in the workplace. So I've been waiting for this, son. I got some movies here, bro.

SPEAKER_03 49:24

Movie time, all right.

SPEAKER_00 49:25

I got some movies, son. I got some of Ranch's favorite, favorite uh group movies, find your tribe movies, power of some movies. In no particular order. No particularly.

SPEAKER_03 49:36

You know what? And before you start, real quick.

SPEAKER_00 49:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 49:39

So I thought about the you know, I thought about some of our conversations the other day because I'm I was on Netflix and I see that there's a Lord of the Flies series on Netflix.

SPEAKER_00 49:47

Oh yes.

SPEAKER_03 49:48

Just recently. I haven't I haven't watched it yet, and I'm almost watchless. Part of me is almost like staying away from it because I'm I don't want to I don't know. I that story kind of resonates with me so much because we had to read it and because I kind of, you know, I get it, right? Like the the the the lessons in that story um kind of stuck with me over the years since since we you know since high school basically.

SPEAKER_01 50:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 50:11

So I'm kind of nervous about watching it because they split it up into like, I don't know, like seven parts or eight part series or something like that. And each I noticed that well, each episode, I don't even know. I don't know how long the episodes are. It might be 30 minutes, you know, something like that. Because sometimes they they slice these up into like really short, easy to consume. But I noticed that each episode is named after one of the main characters, right? Oh, really? Wow, this is gonna be interesting.

SPEAKER_00 50:36

It's like a photo episode.

SPEAKER_03 50:38

There's like really I think it's like Piggy and and uh Okay, whatever. I forget all their names, but good but um the flies.

SPEAKER_00 50:48

I said I'm saying you said Lord of the Rings. I'm thinking Lord of the Fries.

SPEAKER_03 50:52

I said Lord of the Flies.

SPEAKER_00 50:54

You did? I thought I said I thought you said Lord of the Lord of the Rings. But okay, we're talking about Lord of the Flies. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 51:01

All right. Let's let's reset. Because I was like, did we read?

SPEAKER_00 51:04

I'm like, did we read Lord of the Fries?

SPEAKER_03 51:05

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, not Lord of the Rings, man. If I said that, no, my fault. Lord of the Flies, like Lord of the Flies is definitely what I've got to do.

SPEAKER_00 51:12

I do have that on my watch list. I saw that. I have the Lord of the Flies on my watch list.

SPEAKER_03 51:17

Yeah, so but that's what I was saying. Like, I'm I'm kind of nervous to watch it because it the story itself in the book resonates so much that I'm like, I don't know if I want to see this in a yo, yeah, it's gonna be tough to watch like the piggy episode, bro.

SPEAKER_00 51:30

I don't want to watch the piggy episode.

SPEAKER_03 51:32

That's gonna be I don't I don't know what they're gonna do. Yeah, the whole thing is gonna be sad, and I don't know if they're gonna do it justice. Um, you know, I don't know how closely they'll they'll follow the book. Um so you so yeah, but I just uh before you start, I just wanted to let you know, like, you know, if if you haven't already, you know, seen that Netflix has a series for Lord of the Flies.

SPEAKER_00 51:52

Lord of the Flies, not Lord of the Rings.

SPEAKER_03 51:54

Not Lord of the Rings. Lord of the Rings, I'm sure there's a place to to watch that too, but Lord of the Flies.

SPEAKER_00 52:01

So I got I got a I got a good one first up. Revenge of the Nerds, son. Wow, Revenge of Nerds is the ultimate find your tribe movie, son.

SPEAKER_03 52:14

Wow, I haven't seen that in so long.

SPEAKER_00 52:19

Shout out to Robert Carradine, too. He just died.

SPEAKER_03 52:22

Yeah, I was about to say, like, I I know that somebody just passed away from from the cast of that. I got I couldn't think of I couldn't think of the name, yes.

SPEAKER_00 52:29

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think he was was he Wilbur? I think he no Wilbur was um he was one of the boys at first. He's one of the main dudes. He was a two, one of the two main dudes, it was Wilbur, and he played oh man, I can't believe I forgot his name. But anyway, Robert Carineen, that was his name. He passed. He passed recently, like with he was also in blood sport, right? Uh that was um Ogre.

SPEAKER_03 52:53

Oh, okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_00 52:55

Yeah, that was Ogre. He was one of the jocks. He was in uh he was in Bloodsport. He was Ray Jackson. Ray Jackson in Bloodsport. Okay. But Revenge of the Nerds, man, that was the um I think they did the Revenge of the Nerds, Nerds in Paradise. They they did like a few movies like a TV movie.

SPEAKER_03 53:11

Yeah, there was a couple of sequels to that.

SPEAKER_00 53:13

But the first one, the first Revenge of the Nerds, son.

SPEAKER_03 53:17

Yeah, classic. That's so long ago, man. You you got me. I I can't remember much detail from that.

SPEAKER_00 53:24

Oh man, it's it's it's real basic. Some nerds, they go to college and they they want to join a fraternity and they get picked on by the jocks. It's a classic, like nerds versus jocks things. They get picked on and then they start their own frat and then they have a sister frat. And it just shows how these how they kind of like outsmart the jocks. And they're just, you know, they're just fighting for that. They just want to be left alone, and they just want a little piece of the action from college, they want to have a good time, and they just band up and they just you know, they start beating the jocks at their own game. But Revenge of the Nerves, man, that's my movies, man.

SPEAKER_03 53:57

Right.

SPEAKER_00 53:58

No matter what.

SPEAKER_03 53:59

I definitely remember enjoying it, but it's so long ago, man. Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_00 54:03

You need to pop that back in, son. You need to watch that. This is all this is all like. Like you got the Betamax or the game. Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 54:12

Like when I got the VHS ready. I got nothing. I've been looking for it too.

SPEAKER_00 54:16

I've been looking for it on like streaming sites. It's like nowhere to be found, man. Yeah, I can't find it. I can't find it. I maybe maybe I need to look on Tubi or something.

SPEAKER_03 54:24

Yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah, I'm sure it's playing somewhere, man. Like it's a classic. It's too much of a classic, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 54:31

Uh-huh. Next up, I have Goonies.

SPEAKER_03 54:34

Goonies. That's another one I haven't seen in too long.

SPEAKER_00 54:37

Search for like Black Beard's gonna repress Blackbeard's gold or something with the little old lady and her and her son, the little old lady from that movie Throw Mama from the train, the one that couldn't speak, and there's the little kids that search for the and the and the and the the Asian dude from Everything, Everywhere, all at once.

SPEAKER_03 54:53

The yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 54:55

Yeah, yeah. And short round from Indiana Jones. He plays short rounds from Indiana Jones.

SPEAKER_03 54:59

Yo, did did you see his his movie? Um, so he got the Oscar, right? For for like you said, like everything everywhere all at once. But he was also in a movie called Love Hurts.

SPEAKER_00 55:12

That's the one where he's like a twin and Marshawn Lynch is in it or something.

SPEAKER_03 55:16

Nah, he he's a he's a hit, he's a CIA dude.

SPEAKER_00 55:20

Oh no, I had to see.

SPEAKER_03 55:22

Marshawn Lynch is in it, but he's not but he's not he's not a twin. Like they're like, they're all assassins. Oh, okay. It's actually a good movie. Like it's underrated. Like, I I I thought it was really, really good.

SPEAKER_00 55:34

I thought it was kind of like kill bill-ish kind of.

SPEAKER_03 55:36

Yeah, it had like a vibe, like kill bill. Not as much, not as much violence, but pretty, it's it's it's close enough. Like it gives it has a kill bill vibe. Yeah, it's good because it's unexpected, right? Like you see him, and there's no way you think of him as an assassin, even in the movies. Nah, he's a he's a real estate agent.

SPEAKER_00 56:00

Oh, okay, got you, got you.

SPEAKER_03 56:02

So yeah, I don't want to give it away because I I really I I actually recommend it. Like it's it's it's it didn't get a lot of um it didn't get a lot of advertisement, a lot of promotion once it was out, but um, it's actually a good movie. I think it's on Amazon Prime, actually.

SPEAKER_01 56:17

So Love Hurts.

SPEAKER_03 56:19

Love Love Hurts with Short Round. I don't I can't remember. I don't know what's what's it what's his actual name?

SPEAKER_00 56:25

Um I don't know. I just know he's called Matt Short Round from Indiana Jones. So no, yeah, short round Dr. Jones, Dr. Jones, yes, and Dr. Indiana Jones and the Templar dude. Dr.

SPEAKER_02 56:38

Jones.

SPEAKER_00 56:40

He drives the car, he has the blocks, he's driving the Indiana Jones' car, he has blocks on his feet. So my next one. I got the untouchables.

SPEAKER_02 56:49

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 56:50

Yes, uh.

SPEAKER_02 56:52

Who is that?

SPEAKER_00 56:53

That's one of my favorites. Sean Connery, Andy, um, Andy Um Garcia.

SPEAKER_03 57:00

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 57:01

Um Kevin Costner.

SPEAKER_03 57:02

Kevin Costner.

SPEAKER_00 57:04

And and Robert De Niro as as uh Al Capone and the Untouchables.

SPEAKER_03 57:10

That's a classic, man. That is a classic.

SPEAKER_00 57:13

Classic team up movie.

SPEAKER_03 57:14

But wait a minute. How does this pertain to like well I guess uh yeah, I guess they did group up and they grouped up, man? They did help each other survive.

SPEAKER_00 57:22

Yeah, they they to they grouped up to get Al Capone, man.

SPEAKER_03 57:26

Now you're right, they they each they each had you know skills that were required and experience. You know, Sean Connery had the old experience.

SPEAKER_00 57:34

He was the old grizzled yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 57:36

He he had to he had to show um Kevin Costner, like, you know, a new way of doing things.

SPEAKER_00 57:41

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03 57:42

Yeah, and Andy Garcia was like. Yeah, and Kevin Costner was Elliot Ness.

SPEAKER_00 57:49

Because nobody can take down Al Capone, so they put put this special unit with Elliot Ness during the Prohibition era. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? So they put those. It was for them. It was another guy, too, though. Uh the dude with the glasses, the little uh I forgot his name. I forgot his name, man.

SPEAKER_03 58:05

But he was good in it, too. He was good.

SPEAKER_00 58:08

Yeah, he was good. But Untouchables, man.

SPEAKER_03 58:11

Yeah, Untouchables is a good one. If you haven't seen that, that's a good, good movie about the Prohibition era, like you said, like you know, um Elliot Ness trying to get Al Capone and eventually they got him on um tax evasion because they got the they got the bookkeeper.

SPEAKER_00 58:24

The bookkeeper, sir. It was all about catching up to the bookkeeper.

SPEAKER_03 58:27

It was all about catching the bookkeeper because back then they couldn't catch him on any real like serious crimes. They couldn't catch him on the you know murder of racketeering. So they got him on they got him on tax evasion.

SPEAKER_00 58:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 58:38

Because the bookkeeper was keeping all the all the all of the records. Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_00 58:42

And the scene in the train station?

SPEAKER_03 58:44

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 58:45

There's a scene in the train station with the oh man, so that's a that's my with a with the baseball bat at dinner. Oh yes.

SPEAKER_03 58:52

Enthusiasm. Enthusiasm. Yeah, if you if you ever seen that movie, that's a classic. Highly recommend. And look for the baseball bat scene.

SPEAKER_01 59:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 59:02

Where Al Papo's having dinner with his with his crew, and he starts talking about baseball.

SPEAKER_00 59:09

Mm-hmm. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 59:12

Individual achievement. He's talking about the you know, the the the the need to be an you know be part of the team too.

SPEAKER_00 59:19

Yeah, that's right. You need to be part of the team. You can't be venturing out on your own, son. There's no I and team. There's no iron team. Yeah. So the Untouchable is one of my favorite movies. I just watched that movie. I just watched that movie a couple of weeks ago. I rewatched it.

SPEAKER_03 59:36

Yeah, I gotta see it again. It's it's that's a that's a good one. That's a classic. That's one of my favorites.

SPEAKER_00 59:40

Yeah. Um, Ghostbusters.

SPEAKER_03 59:44

Yeah, another another classic. That's one of my favorites, too.

SPEAKER_00 59:48

That's right, man. Ghostbusters, son.

SPEAKER_03 59:50

Bill Murray, Dan Ackroyd. Um I never could remember my like the uh the guy's name on that play.

SPEAKER_00 59:58

Ernie Hudson, though. I know Ernie Hudson, my man Winston. I know Ernie.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:01

Yeah, of course, Winston, Ernie Hudson, of course. Was it Ivan Reichman?

SPEAKER_00 1:00:04

No, it's not Ivan Reichman.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:06

Because he's a he's like a he's famous for like producing other movies and like he's a famous writer and all that stuff. And he passed away a few years ago, but I can never remember his name.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:16

Yeah, Egon, Egon Spangler in the movie.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:18

We're gonna call him Egon Spangler for now.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:20

Egon Spangler. Egon, Ray, Peter, R. P.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:23

Yeah, R.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:24

Peter.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:25

Egon, Egon Spangler. Yo, I got a little bit of history about it.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:28

Remember the cartoon?

SPEAKER_00 1:00:29

Yes, that's what I'm about to hit you with right now. So, you know there's an they're not the original Ghostbusters.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:35

Oh, yeah, yeah, I remember.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:36

You know about that? The original Ghostbusters. Yeah, like the Rippers.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:38

That's why for a while they called it one of them was called the Real Ghostbusters.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:42

Yes, that's the one with the dude, it's like two guys, two Australian dudes, and like a gorilla or something.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:48

Yeah, yeah. I I remember like that because that cartoon the movie characters and it predates their cartoon for sure. Right. So they were the Ghostbusters, and then we got you know what we know of as the Ghostbusters later on. Yeah, the real Ghostbusters.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:08

Hold on, which one was the real Ghostbusters?

SPEAKER_03 1:01:09

The the first one was the real, or did they call the that's one I honestly like I I'm I'm mixing them up now, but I don't remember which one they called the real Ghostbusters.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:17

I think I think the one that we know accordion and they were like in a flying car, and it was two guys.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:23

Yeah, it was it was I never played it any mind. Because once once I realized it wasn't the Ghostbusters that I knew of, I never watched it. To be honest with you, like I I only watched the one that was that was kind of like you know, the movie.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:36

Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:36

So I I never watched that other one. Never, ever, ever.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:40

Yeah, it was one of those things when it came on, and I was like, oh, Ghostbusters cartoon is coming on, and I went to watch it and I was like, this what is this? This isn't this isn't it?

SPEAKER_03 1:01:48

I realized I was done.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:50

Yeah, that was it. I was all out, you know? So Ghostbusters, that was a good movie, man. Ghostbusters one and two. Do you know?

SPEAKER_03 1:01:58

Um that's another one that shows the example that that that you that you talked about, like people coming together because they have different skill sets and different different perspectives, and they get together to fight the ghosts and get it.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:10

Zoza, yo, Zoza.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:12

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, the gatekeeper and the key master.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:16

Yes, sir. Rick Moranis, Suzanne King.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:19

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Was that and it was Saboni Weaver.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:21

Sagony Weaver, yeah. Sagony Weaver and Rick Moranis was in it too.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:25

That's a classic, man. That's kind of Charles Studding too. Like, that's a that's a classic movie.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:29

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:30

But um, but yeah, it it speaks to the whole idea of people getting together and forming a group and holding each other accountable and protecting each other. Um, even though, you know, they were so different. You know, that's a really really big diversity in their group in terms of like their mindset and their their knowledge and all that stuff, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:02:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:49

Um yeah, yeah, that was that's a that's a good one.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:52

Yeah, so I had I said Goonies, Ghostbusters, Untouchables, I said Revenge of the Nerds, I have um uh I tried to remember them too. I should have written them down. I tried to remember going off the top of the ghone. Oh Major League! Major League Major League Yes Charlie Sheen as the Wild Thing, the about the the terrible Indy uh Cleveland Indians team, had my man Wesley Snipes as Willie Mays Hayes up in there. That was a good team about going from worst to first. Major league. You never you didn't see a lot of the sports.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:31

I never no, I never I never watched majority. That's my choice.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:34

That was funny.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:34

I've probably seen it in bits and pieces, to be honest with you, but I I never really never really paid him much attention.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:40

That's early Wesley Snipes, too, son. That's early Wesley Snipes. That's like one of his one of his first like real roles.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:47

It's funny because he he played a baseball player a couple of times too. You ever seen um the movie The Fan?

SPEAKER_00 1:03:53

Yeah, with Robert De Niro.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:55

Yeah, with him and Robert De Niro. Yeah, I I was just telling somebody about that not too long ago, how like in the movie he's in a slunk, you know, he's he's having problems hitting.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:04

Because he doesn't have his number.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:06

And he finally hits, right? And um he gets interviewed at uh post-game interview, and somebody asked him, like, you know, how did you get your, you know, how'd you get it back? How'd you get your mojo back, basically? He's like, I just stopped caring. Yeah, set set off Robert DeNil's character because Robert DeNo's been following this guy and he's been rooting for him the whole time. And to hear that he stopped caring, for some reason that snapped Robert D'No's character and he started stalking him after that.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:32

He went like bonkers.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:34

Yeah, that was that was crazy. He went bonkers. Yeah, that movie's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:39

He went bonkers, yo. Uh here's another fact. Um, Wesley Snipes did not know how to play basketball when he got um the role for white man can't jump. They had to teach him. What? They had to teach him. He he never played basketball.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:55

Like never, like not never a pickup game, never like because you know he's in martial arts. Nope. But never like, come on, man. Where did he grow up? Like, he grew up in New York, too.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:04

He's from New York.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:05

But he never, but he never ever went to the park and picked up a basketball and started playing with.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:17

And because this is you can look this up. This is documented. The the um you know the crazy to me as old record is saying it's in an interview.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:28

It's crazy because growing up in New York, you didn't have to be like really that good, but basketball is going to happen, right? Like it's gonna basketball just just happens. You know, if you go if you grow up in New York, it's happening. Like you're gonna find yourself playing basketball in all types of places, all types of situations. It doesn't matter if you're good, if you're bad, if you suck at it. Yeah, basketball is happening every day.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:56

Let's leave us in the dojo though.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:58

I'll see how he avoided that.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:00

No joke. He's like a 10th degree black belt and show no colour and all types of disciplines. Of course.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:05

I'm not surprised at that.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:06

Like he had to do with basketball, son. And they said that he was so athletic that he actually he sold it. He was that's why when I I heard it, I was like, get out of here. I didn't believe it. But um he sold it because of his because of his athleticism. Woody Harrelson hooped. He played like high-level high school basketball and stuff, but Wesley didn't. And they said he was just athletic enough where they can use certain camera angles to make him look like he can play basketball and he can shoot.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:33

You know who else is a hooper that doesn't really look it? But he but I've seen video of him really, really hooping. Um Adam Sandler.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:41

Oh yeah, he's always in the streets playing.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:43

Yeah, he gets he gets he gets busy. Like he'll just pop up for a pickup game and hoop, right? Yeah, he he's always in those streets players. But it feels like growing up in New York, it just happens, man. Like I was never a a a basketball player, but I played enough basketball as a kid to know that it just happened. It doesn't matter if you're good or not. Like if you're out there, if you're out there, you gotta you gotta play, you gotta hoop.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:09

You gotta play, man. Your friends are playing, everybody's playing, you're not gonna play, you gotta stand there and you gotta come out and be bad. We might need a third.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:15

We might need to just nothing else to do.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:18

You might just stand you in the corner. Nothing else to do. Play defense, do something, run up and down. But we need a we got nine, we need a tenth. Yeah, but that's a little tidbit of information. You can look that up. That's Googleable, too. That's Google Boo. Did not know how to play basketball. And then I also have the outsiders. Have you ever seen the outsiders?

SPEAKER_03 1:07:38

Of course, man. Pony Boy stay gold, pony boy.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:41

Yeah. Yo, all-star cast. So you had um, who was in that? Um Ralph Macchio, the karate kid.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:49

Patrick Swayze.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:50

Patrick Swayze, that's right. Patrick Swayze was in it. Emilio Estevez.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:54

I think Jack Dempsey.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:56

Um C. Thomas. Not Jack Dempsey. C. Thomas Howell was in it. Yeah, C.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:00

Thomas Howell was Pony Boy.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:02

Pony Boy, yes. He was in it. Um Is it Jack Dempsey?

SPEAKER_03 1:08:07

Who? I think I'm maybe I'm saying the name wrong. I'm thinking Jack Dempsey the boxer? No, man. No, no. I'm looking this up because I can't let this go.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:16

Let's look this up, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:17

I can't let it go. Because it's funny because my daughter has to read the book for school. Uh-huh. And I just recently bought the book for her.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:25

Um, that's an all-star cast in that. All that most of those guys became really famous from that movie, The Outsiders. It's about like who they call this.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:36

I'm saying Jack Dempsey. I don't know what I'm thinking about. I meant Matt Dillon.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:39

Matt Dillon, yeah, Matt Dillon.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:41

In my mind, it was Matt Dylan, but in my I don't know why my brain said Jack Dempsey, but like, yeah, Matt Dylan, Ralph Macchio, like you said, see Thomas Howell, Patrick Swayze, Rob Lowe. Yeah, Tom Cruise.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:53

Oh, that's right, Rob Lowe.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:55

Tom Cruise was in that classic.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:57

Yeah, they were all like the Greases.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:59

Yeah, they were all young, too. Real, real young dudes.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:02

Because the movie is what's the movie? What is it? 83, 84, 82, something like that.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:06

1983. 1983. Emilio Esteves.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:10

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:11

Um, Diane Lane. You know, you know who Diane Lane played in um Diane Lane was Superman's mother, and she was Michelle.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:19

Um Brolin. Brolin.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:24

Yeah, man. It's an all-star cast on this.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:28

And they were all kind of young. It felt like some of them were just getting started, like Ralph Macho and C. Thomas Howe. They were all really, really young. Um that movie is kind of like a lot of things.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:39

Yeah, of course, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:40

That movie is a classic. Like, I I I love that movie.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:43

You know?

SPEAKER_00 1:09:44

The outsiders, man. That movie hit big. Everybody, uh all of the major figures in there became like big time movie stars.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:52

So Yeah, every everybody, yeah, everybody wanted up doing their thing. Like all of the the stars of that that movie became, you know, like you said, like they they went on to do bigger and better things after that. But that movie's a classic for sure. And I think Stevie Wonder does the um Stay Gold is the um this the song at the end. That's Stevie? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:13

Oh. Stay Gold, pony boy.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:17

That's a great movie.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:18

Yeah, like I I yeah, that that even made it better for me. Like when I watch the end of that, when I watch, excuse me, when I watch the end of that movie, and that that that um stay gold comes on, and I hear I hear Steven Wonder's voice, I know it's I know it's official.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:33

Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:34

It's official.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:36

Yeah, so those are some of my favorite movies. I wanted to say, like the cooley highs and the wood and the thing. So I and uh I tried to keep it till like the 80s and from a minimum of like four grouped characters up. Had to keep it because there's the list goes on and on and on.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:52

Yeah, I forgot about yeah, Kooley High is is another one. Yeah, that's a classic. Classic, the wood. The wood is classic. Um these are classic movies, man.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:04

Do you know where the power of some?

SPEAKER_03 1:11:10

No, I'm not going there. I'm just joking. Juice is a bad example.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:16

We covered juice in our early episodes. We covered juice.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:19

But the funny thing is juice is juice is a is a is an example of like the negative, uh the negative effects of going along with the group, the power of some. Yeah, just going along with the tribe, like going along with a hive mind, like the why they went and and Rob Quillas.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:36

Um that's a high conflict, the group.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:40

Yeah, like just to go and and and do that was like definitely an example of how you could get caught up with the group and in just doing doing what the group does and without without any understanding of why they're doing it or or what the what the impacts might be, right? Like, so so I'm joking about that one, but that's a good example of like the negative impact of um of a group, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:12:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:04

So yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:05

So you got anything else to add before we head on out of here?

SPEAKER_03 1:12:09

Um no, I mean, I think I think we covered it, man. Like you you you you you took us on a on a memory lane, a trip down memory lane. So I think I think we're good. Got a couple of books in there. Oh, one one more book that I that I we talked about this before, um, and I wanted to recommend um this book. It's called Um Bowling Alone. And we talked about this in a previous episode um where we actually touched on a few things about um Was that the Don't Believe the Hype?

SPEAKER_00 1:12:38

Was that the Don't Believe the Hype episode? That's an early, early one.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:42

Yeah, this was an early episode, man. I I can't remember exactly when when um when we talked about this, but the book bowling alone is basically about the the the um the disappearance of what what I would call, or even what the author calls third spaces, like bowling leagues and softball teams and places for people to congregate, especially as adults, and places like you said, to go and not talk about what you would usually talk about, right? Like so you can go and bowl with somebody or go play softball with somebody or go play basketball or martial arts or go to the gym. You don't necessarily have to talk about politics or what you think of what you know or religion or any of those kind of topics where it becomes kind of contentious if you don't agree. You can talk as people and just have like a like a really, really human experience where you're just talking and you're just getting together on the basis of this common interest and you're getting to know each other from that and you're finding out how much you have in common as opposed to going right into it with, here's what I disagree with you on, or here's what we're gonna argue about.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:50

You can go into third spaces with some sort of common goals and and common um interests. Um and then when it when when politics do come up, right, you're not at each other's throats. At least at least the percentage chance is higher that you'll hear each other out, that you'll try your best to understand a person if you know them from your bowling league, or or if you know them from the library, or you know them from the gym, or you know whatever the case may be. Like they said that the breakdown or the disappearance of third spaces has kind of been detrimental to our ability to have civil conversation with each other when it's when it's most necessary. The fact that we're not doing it voluntarily anymore, and because there's not enough spaces to do that, it's leading to us not being able to do it when it comes to issues that we might disagree on. Like we become tribal in a way that has nothing to do with spending the most amount of time at each other. It just has to do with agreeing with each other's viewpoints, which is not always the the best way to pick, you know, to pick your tribe, right? I can't you don't want to pick a tribe just because we agree on everything, right? Because then you're gonna close yourself off to new ideas and you're gonna become very narrow-minded potentially, right? So bowling alone and matter of fact, let me find the the author of this again. Um Bowling Alone is with by Robert D. Putnam, and the subtitle of this is The Collapse and Revival of American Community. So again, uh it's it's really all about forming these these groups and forming these tribes that have nothing to do with with um kind of like a mandate, so to speak, right? Like you're doing it because you enjoy it. Um you're doing it because just to be around each other is a is your natural state, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:15:40

Yeah. So check those books out. Yo, you know what movie was good too? I just thought Time Bandits. You ever seen Time Bandits with the dwarves traveling through you ever seen that? No.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:50

I mean, I I know of it, but it's one of those.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:52

I just thought of that. That just popped in my head for some reason. There's a movie called Time Band.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:56

I know, I definitely know of it, and I remember I remember I remember.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:59

I remember it's through time and they still they still um they still like treasures through time, you know. Like Sean Connery is in it. That that movie, my father took me to see that in the movie theater, either my father or maybe my mother. But I must have been like six years old. That just popped into my mind. But that's a funny movie. I heard them remaking it too, but those are the we gave you some movies and some books.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:21

Yeah, that's one of those that got past me, and I and I let it I let it get past me.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:24

Yeah. So this concludes our latest episode of the Gen Expertise Podcast, episode 41. Shout out to our now day 41s. Uh day ones.

unknown 1:16:38

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:38

Wait, wait, before before we go, um sorry to cut you off again. Um Finland. We need to talk real quick about like, yeah, just a special thanks to Finland. Because I don't know who is in Finland. Yes. Somebody in Finland is listening to our podcast. Because every once in a while, me and Rance will go take a look at the stats, right? We'll look at the locations because we want to know where our listeners are coming from, right? So we look and we see a list of different places, right? Sometimes there's different countries there, but we we've been seeing pretty consistently Finland on there on Helsinki.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:14

Yeah, um, and we gave you a shout-out earlier, early, like some episodes back, because when I think we're first, but whoever you are, whoever you are, you've been pretty consistent.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:23

And I just want to say thanks. But I don't, you know, like the fact that somebody in Finland is relating in some way or listening or maybe monitoring us. But whatever, whatever it is you're doing, whatever it's like you're doing. Keep doing it. Shout out to you because I just find it interesting and shout out to you for listening. And if you're getting something out of this, um, if you're enjoying this, if it if it's entertaining, or if you're getting just um some good information sometimes, which is one of our goals. Um, yeah, shout out to whoever is what is listening to this in Finland.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:55

In Finland, that's right.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:57

Shout out to you.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:57

Shout out to you. You got the doubles, you got the early shout-out. Now you're getting another re-shout out. I'm like, yo, Finland is holding us down every month. Whoever's listening to that uh episode's out in Finland, shout out to Lu. Salute to the city.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:12

Yeah, they're there's they're as consistent as we are, right? So we gotta shout them out.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:17

That's right, man. So shout out to uh uh Finland Day One and everybody in between, and as usual, and as always, shout out to our day one, day one.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:30

And you know what, main since we are prolific.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:34

That's right, my brother, from another mother. Since we are prolific, we will be back the same year next time, same gen next place, next week. Peace and power to the podcast.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:48

Power to the podcast, peace.