Dave Glover - The Dave Glover Show

Trigger Warning: This episode contains discussions of suicide, mental health struggles, paranormal themes, and substance use that some listeners may find sensitive or distressing.

On this episode of The Sauce Podcast, host Lauren sits down with longtime St. Louis radio personality Dave Glover for one of the wildest and most entertaining conversations yet — covering everything from his unexpected journey from lawyer to radio host, to mental health, cannabis, live music, Bigfoot encounters, ghost hunting, aliens, and the St. Louis restaurant scene.

Dave reflects on celebrating 25 years on air with The Dave Glover Show and explains how he accidentally fell into radio after a career in law. He shares stories about improvising live radio for four hours a day, building authentic connections with listeners, and how personal tragedy transformed the direction of his show.

The conversation also dives into mental health, therapy, and Dave’s experience using cannabis gummies to help manage anxiety and stress. From solo Cardinals games and favorite dispensary finds to live music and performing Beatles covers with his band, the episode balances heartfelt moments with hilarious stories throughout.

Then things take a paranormal turn.

Dave opens up about his lifelong fascination with Bigfoot, recounting a strange encounter in the Colorado mountains that left both him and a skeptical friend stunned. The conversation continues into aliens, UFOs, haunted houses, paranormal investigations, the infamous Sallie House, the Exorcist house in St. Louis, and unexplained psychic experiences that still stick with him today.

Along the way, Dave also shares some of his favorite St. Louis restaurants, talks about the city’s evolving food scene, and reflects on why St. Louis deserves more credit nationally.

From radio stories and live music to ghosts and cryptids — this episode truly goes everywhere.

In this episode:
 - Dave Glover’s accidental path from lawyer to radio host
 - Celebrating 25 years of The Dave Glover Show
 - Learning to improvise live radio
 - Mental health, therapy, and vulnerability on-air
 - Cannabis gummies and managing anxiety
 - Performing live music and Beatles covers
 - Favorite St. Louis restaurants and hidden gems
 - St. Louis food culture and restaurant scene growth
 - Bigfoot encounters in Colorado
 - Aliens, UFOs, and government footage
 - Paranormal investigations and haunted houses
 - The Sallie House and the Exorcist house
 - Psychic experiences and unexplained coincidences
 - Playing baseball at 60 and staying creative

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Transcript

Cold Open + Intro

SPEAKER_00 0:00

And I literally walked by the conference room and like flipped them off or did something weird. And they came out, Stephen DC, the big show back then, and said, Would you like to do a radio show?

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Dave Glover’s Radio Journey

SPEAKER_02 0:42

welcome to the Sauce Podcast. Thank you. I'm your host, Lauren, and I am taking this in a little bit of a different direction this week because we are here with Dave Glover, and he is the host of his very own radio show. So why don't you tell us about that?

SPEAKER_00 0:55

Yeah. So last year I celebrated my 25th anniversary.

SPEAKER_01 0:59

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 1:00

I was a lawyer for 10 years before that, the traditional way of getting into radio. And uh uh yeah, so it I have no training. Uh, I didn't go to school for this. And 25 years ago, I got afternoon drive in a top 20 market, which no one does, and been doing it for 25 years. It is four hours of improv, kind of, you know. I have uh co-hosts, uh, but on any given day, they have no idea what we're gonna talk about. And so I have 16 segments of my show. So it's kind of like 16 separate shows. Wow. And uh, and I don't know what I'm gonna talk about until I sit down.

SPEAKER_02 1:36

Sometimes it's better on the fly, huh?

SPEAKER_00 1:38

For me, it is. Uh, probably a couple years into my career, I tried scripting things and it just killed it. So same, same.

SPEAKER_02 1:46

I tried scripting at the beginning and it was so awkward.

SPEAKER_00 1:48

Yeah, because then you have to. I mean, I've always thought I could be an actor because I'm full of crap, but like ru memorizing

From Lawyer to Radio Host

SPEAKER_00 1:58

scripts and lines, I know I don't think I could do that.

SPEAKER_02 2:00

Yeah, I'm with you.

SPEAKER_00 2:01

Yeah, okay. Too hard.

SPEAKER_02 2:03

Yeah, no, I know it is. It's better. Let's just have a little chit-chat. So so I know that um you were a lawyer to begin with. So tell us how that transpired.

SPEAKER_00 2:13

Yeah, so I've never really done anything on purpose in my life. Uh I took the LSAT during college on sort of a drunken bar bet kind of thing.

SPEAKER_02 2:24

Wait, tell us about that.

SPEAKER_00 2:26

Um, I had no direction. Okay, back up even more. Um, I had no interest in going to college. I grew up in a little refinery town over in the east side, and everyone went to work at the refinery. Some of us were in management, you'd have a brick house. Some of you were laborers and you'd have a white siding house. That's how I grew up. And uh, right before I was going to go to work at the refinery, I got a call and I got a sports scholarship to college. Wow. And I'm like, okay, why not? Let's do this. And then I uh had nothing to do after college, and some guy I knew was taking the LSAT, took it, um, kind of aced it because I had like a C minus average at SIUE, which doesn't exactly get you into Ivy League colleges. Uh, but I did really well in the test, and I went for an interview at Wash U, and they just loved me. And even though Goodwill Hunting wasn't out yet, they thought I was like a little Goodwill hunting from this little refinery town, and he aces the LSAT. So I got in and got a scholarship and uh loved law school, loved it, hated being a lawyer. And uh I was a lawyer for about 10 years, and towards the end of it, I was on my own and I was advertising on these various radio shows. And uh after about two years of that, I walked into the company where I advertised to take my salesperson slash girlfriend to lunch, and who later I married and had Phoebe with my daughter, and uh they were unbeknownst to me putting 97-1 FM talk on the air, the second FM talk station ever in the country. And I literally walked by the conference room and like flipped them off or did something weird, and they came out, Stephen DC, the big show back then, and said, Would you like to do a radio show? Because I had been on and I had been funny, I guess. And I said, sure. And they said, We don't have any money to pay you. Can you do it for free?

SPEAKER_01 4:28

What?

SPEAKER_00 4:28

And I said, sure. And then, and this is all true, the accountant walked up and said, He owes $10,000 on his advertising and he's not even making payments, which was true.

SPEAKER_02 4:41

Oh no.

SPEAKER_00 4:41

And then John Beck, my market manager, walked up, like a bad Fraser episode, and said, What if every day you do a radio show, we take $100 off your bill?

SPEAKER_02 4:51

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 4:51

And that's how I started.

SPEAKER_02 4:52

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 4:53

And I went to him after six months and said, if you wipe out my debt and pay me $100 a day, I'll stop being a lawyer. Oh. And about a year later, I went number one for my first time and signed uh, to me, really big contract. And uh that was 25 years ago. So here I am.

SPEAKER_02 5:10

And now you're getting paid. Now I'm getting paid.

SPEAKER_00 5:12

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's great. Yeah, I took a gamble and it paid off. There were a thousand ways it could have gone wrong, and like maybe 10 ways it could have gone right, and I really just got really lucky.

SPEAKER_02 5:23

Well, why do you think that is?

Mental Health, Authenticity & Cannabis

SPEAKER_00 5:28

I think I must have some sort of natural talent, or I couldn't do it for 25 years. Yeah. And it was obviously attractive to people. And but I think the smartest decisions I made were okay, I don't know how to do this, so I'm just gonna do what feels right. And that uh connected with people, and I've always been very, very honest and open about my own struggles. And uh in 2002, two years after I started the show, uh, my brother took his own life. And so when I came back from that, um, it was on Christmas Eve, and I came back in you know, January, and I planned on just talking about it for two minutes, tell everyone the fact of what happened and move on. And I talked about it for the next two hours. And that was sort of the beginning of the real show because I was so open and vulnerable and connected to so many people that I just kind of kept that template. And uh, like I have every letter behind my name, O C D and A D H D and all these different things. And I've spent 20 plus years in therapy and read 500 self-help books, and I talk about that a lot on the show because a lot of people have the same kind of stuff going on, and I think it helps people feel a little bit better, like, oh well, this guy seems to be doing pretty well in life, and he's got all these things, so maybe it's not that bad.

SPEAKER_02 6:52

That's awesome. You're like a testament that you can push through and be successful. I love that.

SPEAKER_00 6:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:58

Now, as far as um your medications go, you had mentioned to me um that you found cannabis recently.

SPEAKER_00 7:06

I did.

SPEAKER_02 7:06

And so, how is that helping you with your mental health struggles?

SPEAKER_00 7:10

So, probably about three years ago, like I had smoked pot a couple times. I'm a musician, lifelong musician, but I just I never did that. I just, I don't know, just wasn't into it. And three or four years ago, I was introduced to gummies. And I know Suede is your sponsor, and not because they're your sponsor, but that's my place. Like that's where I go, and I feel comfortable there, right?

SPEAKER_01 7:33

They're great.

SPEAKER_00 7:33

I feel uncomfortable in dispensaries because I still feel like I'm doing something wrong. Oh, really? I still feel like someone's gonna go, hey, let's arrest this guy. And uh, but at Suede, I feel really comfortable. Okay, but anyway, um, I have done Lexapro and I have done Simbalta and I have done so many different uh prescription drugs that did various things to you know my brain. But I found that I could cut a lot of them out uh if I just eat a gummy or two at night to relax. Okay. And so it's really, really helped me. And now I'm really good at it. Now I know like how much to take. And like if I'm gonna take too much, like I have this thing, I love baseball and I love going to the Cardinals games, and I have solo Sundays. Uh, and uh last year I went to about 20 games by myself on Sundays, and I would just take a couple gummies, jump in an Uber, splurge, go sit behind home plate, flinch every time they threw the ball because I was high. Um but yeah, it's it's become uh not only a part of my life, but a really pleasant part of my life.

SPEAKER_02 8:34

I love that. Yeah. You know, I feel like it kind of works for me that way. And I think for people who aren't very familiar with it, the really important thing is dose. Because for me, and I don't know if it's the same for you, the dose has to be low enough that I get those positive, like the benefits, but if I take too much, it can push me into anxiety territory. So what's your dose?

SPEAKER_00 8:56

Um, so I like 30 milligrams. Oh wow. But on the weekends, I'll take a couple, three of those. Oh wow. Throughout the day. Throughout the day. I have a I have a pretty good tolerance, and like I said, it it just agrees with me.

SPEAKER_01 9:07

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 9:08

In three years of doing it, I've only had a couple of times I was uncomfortable, and I've never had a bad one. Okay. Um, I remember one time I was sitting on the toilet and I called my producer, Rachel, and I said, Hey, my feet seem really far from my knees. And she goes, I think you're too high. And I'm like, Is that what's going on? She's like, Yeah, I think it is. I'm like, okay, that's good. Yeah. Because I was afraid my feet had moved.

SPEAKER_02 9:31

Oh my gosh. That's

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SPEAKER_02 9:32

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SPEAKER_00 9:32

But we've only had a couple of those. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 9:33

Have you tried these four hands?

SPEAKER_00 9:35

I've not, I've not tried any kind of drink.

SPEAKER_02 9:37

Really?

SPEAKER_00 9:38

So it's brand new to me.

SPEAKER_02 9:39

Well, I'll send some back with you because they're also our sponsor. Um, these are really good. I mean, I've tried like 500 different infused drinks. Um, and I gotta say, the four hands ones taste good. Um, they have five anti 10 milligram cans, so they're really nice and sessionable. Um, and they have some like in other ingredients, like let's see, this one has um well, goji berry. What's that one have in it?

SPEAKER_00 10:04

Uh I could tell you if I could read this, but it's oh, Elderflower and Yuzu.

SPEAKER_02 10:09

Um, and does it have something down at the what's it say at the bottom? Cordyceps. Okay. So we're like, they're really leaning into the the wellness uh space

Music Career + Beatles Covers

SPEAKER_02 10:19

with these. So I would I would highly recommend.

SPEAKER_00 10:21

Yeah, I will try it.

SPEAKER_02 10:22

Now you said you're a musician. What do you play?

SPEAKER_00 10:26

So uh I played drums my whole life and um, you know, helped put myself through law school playing in bands back in the late 80s, and uh I've always played guitar a little bit, but I don't it doesn't come naturally to me. And then uh 23 years ago or so, I had a bunch of uh local rock stars on my show, and they said, Hey, we hear you're a drummer, like let's get together and jam. So we did, and they said, Do you do anything else? I said, I play guitar a little bit, and I did. And they said, Do you sing? And I said, Oh god, no. And they're like, Well, have you ever tried? And I said, No. And so they'd like to try it, and I tried it and I could. And so for the past 25 years, I've been singing lead and playing guitar, and then I'd go back and play drums a little bit. Um, but the guys in my band, if the band's changed a couple of times, uh, but it's just like Jimmy Griffin from El Monstero is in my band for 10 years, so I'm surrounded by great players, yeah, and so it's it's been a ton of fun.

SPEAKER_02 11:25

That's so cool, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:26

Really cool.

SPEAKER_02 11:27

And where can people see you?

SPEAKER_00 11:29

Um, so I'm not sure when this uh podcast will drop, but uh we are playing April 17th at Del Mar Hall, uh opening up, doing a Beatles set, and we do a lot of Beatles. Um Love. Yeah, and we do them really well, and we pick really difficult songs that people don't hear live.

SPEAKER_02 11:48

Like which ones?

SPEAKER_00 11:49

Oh gosh, whoa, we're doing uh I Want You, She's So Heavy for the World. I knew you were gonna say that. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:57

It was so weird how it came in my head.

SPEAKER_00 11:59

Yeah, and it's like it's tough. I've been a Beatles fan forever. When I was four years old, I had the mumps, and I was the last kid in North America to have the mumps, and my dad, uh, and this was not like my dad at all, but he went by a yard sale and bought Meet the Beatles, their first album, and brought it home. And I still remember uh them putting it on the stereo and the hiss of the album, and then it breaks into the first song, and it just like I was just overwhelmed. And uh, so that was it. You know, like everyone, I was a little older, you know. Uh I was born in '64 when they hit, so it wasn't like that made an impression on me. But I knew I wanted to be a musician. Very good. And I was just fascinated. I've always loved objects, if that makes sense. Very tactile. Okay. And my brother, who's 11 years older than me, was a musician, played guitar, and he was very anal and you couldn't touch his stuff. Uh and when he would leave, I would sneak into his room, pull the guitar case from under his bed, open it up, and just like that bright orange fake fur of the inside of a guitar case and the wood and the way it smelled. Um, it still is like magical to me.

SPEAKER_02 13:10

Yeah. Yeah. Totally. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 13:12

And my son is a musician, and I kind of passed that down to him. So nice.

SPEAKER_02 13:16

Okay.

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Live Music + Favorite St. Louis Restaurants

SPEAKER_02 13:46

Well, I'm not a musician anymore, but I sure do like to go see bands, so I'll have to come check you out. Um, yes, I was in the marching band. I was the right guide and I played flute. So you know, a little bit different, but I always wanted to hit that solo. And what's that canned heat song? Is that going up the country?

SPEAKER_00 14:03

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 14:06

But uh no, I'm just like more on the audience side of things these days. Yeah. So where can we see you a little later in the summer?

SPEAKER_00 14:13

I'm not sure because we stopped playing during COVID.

SPEAKER_02 14:16

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 14:17

And we just put the core of my band uh is back together and we added a couple of guys like Dave Farber, um, the saxophone player and uh super jam lead singer. He's amazing. Um, just had practice last night and it was so much fun. Uh, but you you'll be able to find it on social media. I think we're playing a lot of festivals. We're kind of a built-for-festival kind of band. We'll be out there in the summer.

SPEAKER_02 14:40

That's so fun. Okay. Well, it wouldn't be a restaurant podcast if we didn't talk about some of your favorite restaurants.

SPEAKER_00 14:45

Let's do it. Let's do it.

SPEAKER_02 14:47

So, where are you eating lately?

SPEAKER_00 14:48

Um, so you guys asked for my top five. Let me see if I can remember them. Uh, probably the most interesting is a place called Tubbies.

SPEAKER_02 14:56

Tubbies.

SPEAKER_00 14:57

Tubbies. No one's ever heard of it.

SPEAKER_02 14:59

Where is that?

SPEAKER_00 15:00

It is in St. Charles. Okay. It's in a bowling alley. Uh. It's a steakhouse.

SPEAKER_01 15:05

Really?

SPEAKER_00 15:06

And it's tremendous.

SPEAKER_01 15:08

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 15:08

It is tremendous, and it's cheap.

unknown 15:11

Really?

SPEAKER_00 15:11

And probably they're gonna hate me because I did this back in 2000, 25 years ago, when I discovered Tubbies, and I talked about it on the air, and suddenly they had this massive people.

SPEAKER_01 15:23

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_00 15:23

And so a couple weeks later I went in and a guy comes up to me and he goes, Are you that radio guy? And I'm like, Oh, yes, I am. You're very welcome. And he he's like, F you. I can't, you ruined this, it was a great local spot, and now everyone and their sister's coming from Chesterfield. So they'll probably be mad at me again. Um, Paul Mano's is a Glover family birthday, anniversary kind of place. Okay. Paul's a good buddy of mine. I think it's the best Italian in St. Louis, and it's so weird. It is a beautiful, dark. That's how I found it. Um, Maureen and I 20 years ago or more, Googled dark restaurant.

SPEAKER_01 16:01

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_00 16:02

And it's like tripal manas. So we went and it's in a little strip mall with a Goodwill and a nail place, and you're like, I don't know about this. Uh-huh. And then you go in and it's tremendous.

SPEAKER_01 16:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 16:12

Chris's uh at the Docket, which is owned by Chris Saracino, the Bartolino family, right across the street from my uh studio at KMOX. And what I love about it, the food's tremendous, but it's so diverse. At any given time, there's gonna be uh black, white, gay, straight, old, young, rich, poor, like St. Louis kind of meets there. All right. And I love that about it.

SPEAKER_02 16:38

That's fun.

SPEAKER_00 16:39

Um, where else did I say? I should have written this down. Um, oh, oh, never mind. Julie Lally, our friend, sent me a text. And so to remind me the kind of places.

SPEAKER_01 16:49

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 16:50

Um, but yeah, I uh I love a lot of the traditional places, but I also like everyone, love when someone goes, Oh, you need to try this place. And being downtown for as long as I have been, I've been down there since 1990 in one way or another when I was a lawyer. Um, you know, I love the neighborhoods and Seulard and Benton Park and so many great here in Maplewood,

St. Louis Food Scene Discussion

SPEAKER_00 17:14

man. Yeah, I mean, Maplewood blew up 20 years ago or so.

SPEAKER_02 17:17

Yeah, we've got a good little scene going.

SPEAKER_00 17:19

Yeah. So yeah, I I mean, obviously it sounds so stupid. Like I love eating out, like everyone does.

SPEAKER_01 17:24

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 17:25

Um, but yeah, St. Louis, I believe, has always had, maybe not always, but in my lifetime, had this big inferiority complex.

SPEAKER_02 17:36

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:37

Chicago, Memphis, Kansas City, we're just not as cool. We don't have this, we don't have that. And I think um your generation should step up and be a little cockier, you know?

SPEAKER_02 17:50

I've got no problem with that. I think we have a really good thing here.

SPEAKER_00 17:54

I think we I we can't compare it to a Chicago because it's so much bigger than us. Yeah, of course. But give me your top 10 restaurants in Chicago, give me your top 10 restaurants in St. Louis. I'll have that competition.

SPEAKER_02 18:06

Well, I just had some of my first uh Michelin star restaurant experiences down in Mexico City, and like, yes, there were some standout dishes, but some of it I was like, some of the food in St. Louis, like from our James Beard winners, are like some of it's better.

SPEAKER_00 18:20

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 18:21

So I feel really lucky to be here and covering the scene.

SPEAKER_00 18:24

Yeah, definitely. And it's always so it's always interesting. Yeah, like it would be one thing if we kept opening great fried chicken restaurants or great barbecue places, which we do, but we have so many really interesting fusions and new types of food that I haven't tried. Um, so I think that is something that's like a little secret that we have in St. Louis.

SPEAKER_02 18:50

Yeah, totally. Have you been to Endo?

SPEAKER_00 18:52

No, okay, everyone keeps telling me about it.

SPEAKER_02 18:54

I'm obsessed. It's my current favorite. I mean my favorite switches quite frequently, but I'm highly recommending that to anyone who will listen.

SPEAKER_00 19:02

Very cool.

SPEAKER_02 19:02

Um okay. So the moment I've

Bigfoot Encounter in Colorado

SPEAKER_02 19:05

been waiting for because Julie told me that you are into aliens. So tell me what you think.

SPEAKER_00 19:10

Yeah, um, I always have been. I grew up in that generation with Leonard Nimoy's in search of show and Bigfoot and all that stuff. I'm way more into Bigfoot.

SPEAKER_02 19:19

Oh, are you?

SPEAKER_00 19:20

And I saw him.

SPEAKER_02 19:21

Oh, wait, what? Okay, let's just like take it around to that then. Yeah, tell me everything.

SPEAKER_00 19:27

So, um, like I said, I have always been into Bigfoot. I listen to Bigfoot podcasts. I was convinced prior to this encounter that there was some sort of animal that people are seeing, and it's not just their imagination, it's not just bears. So in 2020, I think it was July, right during the middle of COVID, um, a good friend of mine and I went to Colorado to ride motorcycles.

SPEAKER_01 19:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 19:54

Just kind of get away from everyone. And uh we took the uh gondola up to the top of the mountain at Vale. Anyone can Google Earth it, you can see it. There's it's you know, people are up there. There's like a little roller coaster, and I was sitting on a boulder, and my friend took a picture of me, and he handed me my phone back. And uh before this happened, my friend is very religious, I'm not. He's very straight-laced, I'm not. And he thought it was hilarious that I believed in Bigfoot.

SPEAKER_01 20:27

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 20:27

And he didn't believe because that would go against his religion. There can't be a Jesus and a Bigfoot, according to him.

SPEAKER_02 20:33

Why not?

SPEAKER_00 20:34

I don't know. This is the way he thought about it. And so he hands me my phone back and he looks down the mountain and he goes, What is that? And I look and I don't see anything. I said, I don't see anything. And he he did this with his arm pointed, and I did the thing where you get behind him and look down his arm, and 150 yards away or so is this black figure over seven feet tall. Skip Weber is a good friend of mine, he's six foot nine, and I know what he looks like, and it was much bigger than Skip. Painfully skinny, really, black from head to toe, and it was acting really weird, and it was walking in circles one way and back the other, and looking very nervous and swinging its arms in front of it, and it was there for about 30 seconds, and we didn't say a word, and then it walked back into the tree line.

SPEAKER_02 21:27

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 21:28

And my buddy, the very straight-laced Christian who didn't believe in Bigfoot, said that was Bigfoot.

SPEAKER_01 21:35

Wow, yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 21:37

And uh then I'm making him sound insane, but last year, because he has a place out in Colorado, he saw another one.

SPEAKER_02 21:45

And it was like the same thing.

SPEAKER_00 21:46

It was the same thing, it was my it was uh 80 miles away, so it wasn't the same thing. Uh huh. But he was fishing by himself at a little pond and he saw the same thing. This one was only about 70 yards away from him.

SPEAKER_01 22:00

Really.

SPEAKER_00 22:00

So it what's interesting though is before this happened, if you would have said, Hey, I understand you believe in Bigfoot, hundred percent, hundred percent. But now that I've seen it, I question it more.

SPEAKER_01 22:12

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_00 22:13

Because it's me.

SPEAKER_01 22:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:14

And I'm like, no, you probably saw something else. You probably exaggerated it. You probably this, you probably that. And if my friend Scott hadn't been with me, I would 100% doubt myself.

SPEAKER_01 22:24

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 22:25

But the fact that he was with me and he was such a non-believer and he saw it. So yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:31

Now he's a believer.

SPEAKER_00 22:32

Now he's an absolute believer.

SPEAKER_02 22:34

Really?

SPEAKER_00 22:34

He's just had to reconcile his religious beliefs with what he's seen.

SPEAKER_02 22:38

Okay. Yeah. Did you see that documentary about Diatlov Pass in Russia? I did. About how like those people had, I don't know. It seems sketchy, right? What are your thoughts on that?

SPEAKER_00 22:48

Yeah. Um, I so, in spite of believing in Bigfoot, um, I'm a very skeptical guy. I believe in Occam's razor that whatever's most likely true probably is, even if it's not fun and sexy. So I think what probably happened was some sort of a weather event.

SPEAKER_01 23:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:05

Um, but like all of those theories about, you know, Yetis and Russian missile tests and things like that, it's really intriguing.

SPEAKER_01 23:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:14

And something really crazy happened. Yeah. Obviously. Um, but yeah, I do tend to accept like the most rational explanations, usually.

SPEAKER_02 23:23

Yeah. I thought that the Yeti theory was interesting.

Aliens, UFOs & The Paranormal

SPEAKER_00 23:26

I did too. Yeah. Especially the one photograph they had that looked like it was a Yeti, which would be a little on the nose that you take a picture of the guy that kills you like that night. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:36

Weird stuff.

SPEAKER_00 23:37

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 23:37

Okay. Okay. Can we go back to aliens now?

SPEAKER_00 23:40

Yeah. Um, I've always believed, just based on averages, um, that we weren't the only life form uh in the universe.

SPEAKER_02 23:53

Impossible.

SPEAKER_00 23:53

And like I said, I used to be very religious when I was like in college, and I would have accepted yes, that we're God's one plan. And he just made this universe so big because he's showing off or whatever. Um, but now I mean, I just think that the building blocks of life are so simple.

SPEAKER_01 24:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:11

And we have found them on multiple asteroids. So we know that life can travel, yeah, which may be how it started here. But if I had to guess, I would say that life is not everywhere, no, fairly common.

SPEAKER_02 24:26

I would say so.

SPEAKER_00 24:27

Um, I'm a little troubled by the fact that the distances are so far. I I think the the scientists and astronomers who say, uh, oh yeah, they're probably out there, but they'll never get here because the distances are just so far. But you know, if they can fold space or, you know, manipulate dimensions or things like that. And the things that we're seeing, and the things that the Department of Defense have released videos on now, I mean, there's something.

SPEAKER_02 24:52

They're released. I mean, it's like the government is admitting to this now. So we can't really deny it anymore.

SPEAKER_00 24:58

I think I'd rather have it be aliens than the fact that China or Russia has this technology that we can't even understand.

SPEAKER_02 25:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:06

So yeah, I I think they're probably here. They're probably observing us. Uh, I wish they would intervene. Like, I'm just ready. I'm just ready, right? Like, come on, just help. Exactly. Please help us. Yeah. If you have to eat a few faces, that's fine. Just eat a few faces.

SPEAKER_02 25:25

No, don't eat faces. Well, maybe just

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Ghost Hunting, Psychic Experiences & The Exorcist House

SPEAKER_00 26:01

I used to do uh back in the glory days of the show, I did Paranormal Tuesday. So every Tuesday we we had this guy named Dr. Michael Lynch, who is a genius at this. He passed away, but he that's all he did was paranormal stuff.

SPEAKER_01 26:15

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 26:16

And it's funny because when I met the ghost hunters, the original guys, you know, probably five years into my show when they were beginning their show and they were kind of big stars. And I said, Oh yeah, I do a lot of paranormal stuff. I have this guy named Michael Lynch, and they go, Dr. Michael Lynch? Oh, really? Like he was a big rock star in that area, and I just didn't even know. I just thought he's kind of a local weirdo. Um, and then another thing my show is famous for is every year we do a Halloween show. Oh, and we've been to local haunted houses, we've been to the Sally House in Atchison, Kansas. Probably the most famous one we did was in 2008. I think it was uh my show was the first anything to get into the Exorcist House. Oh here in Bel Noor over by Umsil. And so we did the show at the Exorcist House, and then in 2014, I was invited to be on a television show where they returned to the Exorcist house. So I'm really connected with that.

SPEAKER_02 27:15

Have you had paranormal experiences like ghost encounters?

SPEAKER_00 27:19

Um, I've had a couple things happen to me in my life that were unexplainable, more psychic than ghosts. But in 25 years of doing Halloween shows and going to these places, I've definitely heard things, seen things, smelled things, but um I care too much about it and I'm too honest about it to say, like, oh yeah, I saw a ghost. I haven't seen anything like that. Okay, but I've definitely had things happen on the Halloween shows that were very strange. And um, then I've had a couple things happen to me that I couldn't explain. So like what?

SPEAKER_02 27:56

What are your favorites?

SPEAKER_00 27:57

Probably the one that's the weirdest to me is when I was in law school, I lived in the West End, I lived on Waterman, 5079, and it was this big apartment building, and I lived in the very back apartment, and I had just bought my first vehicle. It's a little blue Ford Ranger truck, and I had a parking space in the back, but someone was there. So I had to park in the front. And my girlfriend at the time was staying with me, and the whole evening I was jacked up because I thought someone was going to key my car, which is when you drag a key down someone's car just to be a jerk. And I couldn't get out of my head, and I just talked about it incessantly to the point that she was annoyed. And then I kept having dreams about it. And at about three in the morning, I woke up from a dead sleep, wearing my boxers, my t-shirt. I ran out of the apartment, I ran down the hallway, I hit the door, which flies open, just in time to see a car stop right next to my truck, and a motorcycle swerved to miss it and drag its handlebars down my truck. And it made the exact scrape that I'd been seeing in my head.

SPEAKER_02 29:09

That's so weird.

SPEAKER_00 29:10

And so the motorcycle guy was drunk and tried to flee the scene, and I bear hugged him and grabbed him until the police came. And my girlfriend, after that, as I was walking back in the apartment, she's like, What the F was that? Like, oh yeah, he was drunk and blah, blah. And she goes, No, look at your truck. And it then we both just freaked out because it was exactly what I had seen in my head.

SPEAKER_01 29:33

That's so weird.

SPEAKER_00 29:34

So I can't I can't explain that. Yeah, I mean, could it have just been coincidence? Of course. Was it coincidence? Probably. But it's pretty weird. I don't know. It's pretty weird.

SPEAKER_02 29:44

There's something going on there. I've never had an experience like that, but my mom went, like before I was born, she and my aunt, like they lived in California. They went up to the mountains one one weekend. And when they woke up, it was the day to go home. Um, my mom said, I just had the strangest dream. And my aunt finished the dream for her, and they both had the same dream that they had driven off the mountain and crashed and died. Um, so they were like, Well, that's scary. Let's be careful. Going home, went out, car wouldn't start for nothing. So they had to call a tow truck, got it towed down to the bottom of the mountain when they got down there. Car started up, nothing was wrong with it.

SPEAKER_00 30:23

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 30:23

Isn't that strange?

SPEAKER_00 30:24

Yeah, that is strange.

SPEAKER_02 30:25

And like my mom's not like really a psychic type of person, but it's a similar situation. Like, something's something's going on there.

SPEAKER_00 30:32

Yeah, very difficult to explain. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:35

So what about what's your top like ghost story?

The Sallie House Story

SPEAKER_00 30:44

So probably at the Sally House. The Sally House is in Atchinson, Kansas, and it's uh just this little nothing house uh that now someone owns and charges people to come in and spend the night. And so we went probably right before COVID, and uh it was me and my team, and we were planning on spending the night, and within 10 minutes, we were in the nursery, which is a really hot spot there, and the lady who runs the place was with us, very nice lady, 40-ish, had a bunch of ghost hunting stuff, and she had this uh spirit box that says words, and she said, um, don't get too excited, don't fall into paridolia where you see puppies in clouds. It's gonna say a word every minute or so, and you're gonna want to put them together, but just trust me, you know, be careful about that. So within about 60 seconds, it had said about 12 words, which was really weird.

SPEAKER_01 31:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:50

And every word it said related to my brother's suicide.

SPEAKER_01 31:56

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_00 31:57

My brother uh shot himself in the Suaro National Forest in Tucson, Arizona. He walked about a mile into the desert. Um it it snowed that day, which was kind of weird, and um so it started saying, and I have it written on my phone, but I won't take the time to look at it, but it was basically like desert, cactus, depression, explosion, um, snow, freezing, and it just everything had to do with it.

SPEAKER_02 32:33

So weird.

SPEAKER_00 32:34

And then the last one was I watch you sing. And so is it him? Well, here's what's really weird. My producer slash cameraman, Jim Modlin, who'd been with me for years and years and years, is uh this whole thing's on tape. And he says, Ask it something that only Keith would know, my brother. And so, and you can see you can still see that to this day. I'm thinking, oh, I know what I'm asking. I'm gonna ask what was the name of his first dog, which was Shadow. And before I say a word, the box goes, Shadow.

SPEAKER_02 33:09

Oh, I just got goosebumps.

SPEAKER_00 33:11

Yeah, I did too, and I've told the story a million times. And so I don't know whether that was my brother. Yeah, I don't know whether it was a demon pretending to be my brother, I don't know if it was complete coincidence. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 33:26

That's so strange.

SPEAKER_00 33:27

But that changed the whole mood of the night. Yeah, and uh we ended up leaving about midnight. We're just like, let's just get out of here, you know. So, but yeah, that was a pretty strange one.

SPEAKER_02 33:37

What's this box? I've never heard of this.

SPEAKER_00 33:39

Yeah, you can get them. We just did our Halloween show this year out at this uh haunted asylum in Washington, Missouri called Emmaus Village, and they had a ton of that stuff.

SPEAKER_01 33:50

Really?

SPEAKER_00 33:51

Uh like they are ghost hunters who that's where they do all their investigations. And uh so yeah, now they have them. You can buy them on Amazon, you know, you can buy them for 15 bucks. And but uh they're just kind of like the Ouija board of 2026.

SPEAKER_02 34:07

Huh.

SPEAKER_00 34:07

So look into that. People are having a lot of fun out there. I'm curious now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm always really sheepish about messing with that stuff. I've never touched a Ouija board. Uh-huh. Um, you know, those things seemed very goofy until they started talking to me like they were my brother. Yeah, and then they seemed less goofy.

SPEAKER_02 34:28

That's so interesting.

SPEAKER_00 34:30

Yeah, it was really something. It was really something.

SPEAKER_02 34:32

Well, this has been such a fun, meandering conversation.

What’s Next for Dave Glover

SPEAKER_00 34:36

You'll like my show. This is what we do four hours ago. I love it.

SPEAKER_02 34:39

Now, what's on the horizon for you this year?

SPEAKER_00 34:42

So I just signed a new contract with KMOX.

SPEAKER_01 34:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 34:47

Um, the band's back together. I'm playing old man baseball again. Um, I joined a 60 and over team last year. I just turned 60 last year.

SPEAKER_01 34:58

Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_00 34:59

And it's been, and uh, I'm on a team with my with some of my buddies. John Ewlett from Casey is on the team. Bob Ramsey, the voice of the Billikans, Dan Buck. Um, and it's just like little league.

SPEAKER_01 35:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 35:13

You dress up, no one's very good, no one can throw it from third to first without a hop. But it's just so much fun.

SPEAKER_02 35:21

It sounds like my kind of team.

SPEAKER_00 35:23

It's so much fun. Like you just you get all dressed up in your fresh uniform, you go play catch, you take some grounders, you hit a ball. It's it's and then I got one at bat last year because I started the season late. And uh, so everyone's like, you know, taping it and stuff, making a big deal out of it. And I swung at the first pitch and I hit it up the middle, and I was a sprinter in college, so I was gonna show off my speed, which has evidently left me, and I was running as fast as I could, and I beat out the throw, and I get my first hit, and I tore my

Closing Thoughts

SPEAKER_00 35:58

quad. Oh no, and and uh it was just hilarious. It wasn't hilarious to me because it really hurt and I had that finished my season, but everyone thought that was just perfect.

SPEAKER_02 36:07

Poor baby.

SPEAKER_00 36:07

Yeah, but I'm batting a thousand, so it's fine. I should just retire.

SPEAKER_02 36:11

No, no, you gotta you gotta have fun. Yeah, okay. Well, thank you so much for stopping by.

SPEAKER_00 36:16

Thanks for having me. This has been great.