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Ep 2: Discipleship in Leadership: Learning & Growing Through God's Guidance (Proverbs 12:1)

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In this episode, Dr. Lee shares personal reflections on recent life and business transformations, emphasizing the journey of prioritizing God's will above all. 

She explores the foundational principles of discipline, knowledge, and the often-challenging yet ultimately rewarding path of embracing divine correction.

Key Topics & Timestamps:

  • [00:00:00] The Kingdom Seeker's Journey: Prioritizing God's Will- Dr. Lee shares personal insights on recent life and business transformations, highlighting the shift towards a God-first approach and the foundational role of discipline.
  • [00:08:00] Discipline vs. Punishment: Understanding Divine Mentorship- A deep dive into the true meaning of discipline as proactive instruction and mentorship, contrasting it with reactive punishment. This segment emphasizes the importance of receiving correction from both divine and earthly mentors.
  • [00:11:00] Agape Love: The Foundation of Willing God's Good- An exploration of agape love and the greatest commandments, explaining how prioritizing God's good and loving others as ourselves forms the bedrock of a successful and fulfilling life.
  • [00:20:00] Battling the Flesh: Trusting God's Timing Over Prediction- Dr. Lee candidly discusses the human desire to predict the future and the temptation to seek answers outside of God's wisdom, emphasizing finding rest and guidance in Him.
  • [00:32:00] Embracing Correction: Softening the Heart for Growth- A powerful segment on overcoming defensiveness and cultivating an open heart to receive correction and reproof, leading to personal growth and effective leadership.

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[00:00:00] Good morning Kingdom seekers. I'm so excited to me sharing with you the wisdom that's dropped through for me this week.

Things that I've seen from my clients, things that I've seen from. Working in our business, as a parent, as a wife, as a daughter, as all of the things.

If you've been, following me for a hot minute, you'll notice that there's been a big change in how we have been doing things in our life, in our business on social media. A lot of you know that I took a pretty significant break off of social media at the beginning of the year after really having a humbling and convicting several months with God kind of calling my heart back to what he truly has me here to do.

Today I want to kick this off by starting with one of my absolute favorite Proverbs. The book of Proverbs is a place I've been spending a lot of time and. It [00:01:00] is something that I think that this book becomes important in your life when God kind of calls you to it, because there is so much wisdom in this book.

There's so much wisdom in Proverbs, even just in a single proverb. And you could probably spend a year in Proverbs, which we're gonna spend a lot of our time in weekly wisdom, like during that wisdom section in the Proverbs piece because I think that there's just so much goodness, there's so much richness there for us as entrepreneurs, for us as executives and leaders, not just in, uh, our businesses or in our workplaces, but just in our lives in general, even, um, in the leadership of ourselves, in our relationship with God and seeking him first.

So I wanted to kick today off with Proverbs chapter 12, verse one, which talks about, and I'm gonna read the New American Bible Revised Edition. That version, and we're actually going to then look at some of the other language that shows up in some of the other versions.[00:02:00] 

So you get to pick your favorite Bible version that you read, and I'm always gonna use the N-A-B-R-E version.

So Proverbs chapter 12, verse one says, whoever loves discipline loves knowledge, but whoever hates reproof is stupid. So, lemme say that again. Whoever loves discipline loves knowledge, but whoever hates reproof is stupid.

The first time I read this, I was like, Ooh, one of our values at our agency is kind candor. So we speak the truth with kindness. And when I read that word stupid, I was like, ouch. Like, that's a word in today's society that we don't often use unless we're using it to really condemn somebody, to judge somebody to be unkind or mean towards someone.

And so when I was looking at the other versions of this, uh, there's a couple key words in here that I was like, okay, well how else has this been translated? So another translation is whoever loves [00:03:00] instruction, loves knowledge, okay? Another version is whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, but whoever hates correction, not reprove correction is stupid.

So. In the, another version, they replaced the word stupid with brutish, brute ish. Like you brute, right? When we think of brute, I always think of like middle, medieval. Actually my mind goes to the Princess Bride with, uh, Andre the Giant and like he was a brute, right? He was actually quite smart, but people saw him in that very brutish, like he was there for his physical strength, not for his intelligence, right?

Another word that. Is used in some of the other translations of this whoever hates correction is shortsighted. And so I wanted to dive into this today because it's really fascinating to me that, the past several months in getting to the point that we're going to release our C-Suite kingdoms seekers [00:04:00] podcast, like getting ready to release our new website at the agency, forming the agency, having several incredible clients come in and start working with us.

Like really shifting the way that we are, we're showing up in business, my husband and I, and seeking the Kingdom of God first. One of the things that I decided at the very beginning of the year. Was for the last several years, I had always chosen a word of the year, and I would often pray on it. I would ask God like what the word of the year should be, and I wasn't always seeking his kingdom first.

When I'd ask that, like I'd, I'd say, Hey, God, help me see the word, but then I would choose the word that I wanted of the ones that he showed me. If any of you have ever done that where you're like, okay, well, I don't, God might be telling me to choose this thing, but like, this is also in front of me, so maybe I'll just choose this one instead.

Again, whoever loves discipline, who loves instruction, loves knowledge. Whoever hates correction is stupid. Or brutish. Or shortsighted. So the word that I ended up choosing at [00:05:00] the beginning of this year was not a word that I wanted to choose. I. It was a word that came to me in prayer and it was one that was tough and it was discipline.

It was like, you're going to study, you're going to learn, you're gonna understand at a deep like visceral level, spirit level and mental level and emotional level, what it means to practice discipleship with God to Jesus, right? Because like Jesus ultimate teacher, so one of the translations I believe it's the passion translation talks about whoever longs to be teachable.

So not whoever loves discipline, but whoever longs to be teachable and something I. Have known for a long time about myself is I love to learn. I love to learn. And I think a lot of you who are here are the same as me. You love to learn. Amen to lifelong learning. Like we are here to learn. We are here to grow, we are here to change. We are [00:06:00] here to develop. We are here to become more holy, more righteous, more like Jesus. Right. So when that word discipleship landed, I was like, okay, well. I have had, I've gotten four higher level degrees at this point.

I've got a bachelor's, I've got two master's. I've got a doctorate. I've got like, certificates. I'm constantly reading. I read like six to 10 books a month. I am always consuming information. I've been like that since I was a child, like when I was a little kid. And I would sit at the, the breakfast table, 'cause we used to all have breakfast together in the morning.

My parents would make sure that there was something for me to read. Like a cereal box or a newspaper or something for me to read because if I didn't have input, I would start like messing with stuff. Like I always wanted to be learning. I always wanted to be consuming information and as I grew up.

I really directed my own path in terms of what I learned. I chose the degrees I wanted to get. I really was able to study what I wanted to study. I [00:07:00] forged paths at the educational level that other people had not forged. Like the doctoral project that I did when I got my nurse practitioner doctorate was something that nobody had ever done.

They actually struggled to, to mentor me and I had to get a second mentor who understood what I was trying to do because my first mentor was like, you can't do this. This isn't something that exists. And so like thank God I was given a mentor in that moment of despair of like, I think this is what I'm supposed to be studying.

I think this is what I'm supposed to be putting out into the world. And nobody understands this. Thank God I was given a mentor at that moment who was like, I get what you're trying to do and let me mentor you in doing this because you're forging a new path. Okay? So you're trying to do something that no one's ever done and connect Two things that no one's ever connected, and I understand both of these things.

So let me help you learn how to connect the two. And so I longed to be teachable by her. If I was gonna go back and [00:08:00] do anything in the nursing world, if I needed advice in terms of going back into academia or going back to doing nursing practice, she's the first person that I would reach out to.

I haven't talked to her in four years. I would still go back to her because her wisdom, her understanding was so beneficial. And so back to the beginning of the year when I heard this word like, your word is gonna be discipleship, it's gonna be discipline. I really started studying, okay, well what is discipline?

And I was like both pleasantly and also a little like with terror, excited to learn that discipline is learning. It is. It is taking in instruction, it is being mentored, it is studying under. Someone or with someone or in a specific field. And it's done in a very intentional way. So the way we use, uh, the word discipline in English, a lot of times we kind of misconstrue what it means.[00:09:00] 

Because a lot of times we'll say, oh when somebody does something wrong, then I will discipline them. So we're using it in the term of correction at that point. But a lot of times we're using the word discipline as punishment. Like, I'm going to make them feel bad or I'm going to give them a consequence for the thing that they just did wrong.

And in reality, discipline is not something that is reactive. It is something that is proactive. We provide discipline and we get discipline. From people who understand what it is that we are trying to do, who understand what it is that we need and also understand that sometimes what we want is not gonna match what we need, and they're gonna give us what they, what we need, even when it doesn't match what we want.

Because they understand those mentors, those teachers, they understand where we're trying to go and they understand what we're trying to do, and they know more than we know. They have a greater, [00:10:00] wider, deeper level of understanding, a more attuned and nuanced understanding of what we are trying to do.

And so oftentimes the reproof or the correction or the direction that those mentors give us in this state of discipline, the knowledge and instruction they give us. The correction and guidance they give us. A lot of times we can struggle to hear that because it doesn't match what we want. It matches what we need.

And if anybody out there is a parent or you've been in a scenario where you are. In that position of mentorship, you are in that position of leadership. You are in that position of supporting people and loving them in the true Greek word agape sense of love, which is, for those of you who don't know in the Bible, there's three words, Greek words that are used for our one English word of love.

So there's actually three [00:11:00] different types of love that the Bible describes, and agape love, A-G-A-P-E. Agape love is to will the good of others. So when Jesus teaches us , when they ask him, what is the greatest commandment? And he says To love God above all others, he is actually saying in that moment, to fear, to respect, to honor, to will God's good, the good of God.

Okay, so notice loving God is different. Agape love for God is different than what it is for humans because when we will the good of God, we're willing, God's good. We're saying, Hey, God, if I love you first and I seek you first, and I put you above everything else, then your good is always gonna be more important to me than what I perceive to be somebody else's good in that moment.

So I'm always going to to will [00:12:00] God's good. Even when I also am like, Hey God, can you will this good over here? Like, I think this is good and your will, not mine. Okay, so that first greatest commandment Jesus gives is agape love towards God. Fear God. Respect God, honor God. When he talks about the second thing that we do right, love our neighbors as ourselves.

He's using agape love there as well. So agape love at that point is to will the good of your neighbor and hear this part as you will the good of yourself. And I think a lot of people miss this, like when we talk about discipleship to Jesus and discipleship to God, allowing God and Jesus to mentor us, to disciple us, to give us reproof, to give us correction, to give us the instruction and the knowledge that we need.

I think this is one of the toughest things for us to receive as humans, is we are supposed to will the good of others as we will the good of [00:13:00] ourselves. It is supposed to be a mutually beneficial relationship and, and oftentimes it is through the willing of good for others that we receive good. So our loving other people, our willing, the good of others is actually supposed to happen first, and then there is a trust that as we will, the good of others.

Our good will be willed as well because God always wills our good. So if we are seeking the kingdom of God first, if we are loving him and placing him above everything else, if he is our number one priority, if we are respecting him and honoring him, and then we are from that state of connection and honor and re reverence to God willing the good of the people around us, there's no way for us to not receive good.

Unless we don't allow ourselves to receive good. [00:14:00] And what I find is that I've seen this a lot in the trauma work that I used to do with a lot of the clients that I work with. A lot of times, if we don't believe that God truly wills our good, if we don't believe that God is always doing what is in the best interest for us and our good, if we don't believe that.

If we don't believe that no matter how other people treat us, and it may not be while we're here on this, in, on this planet, it might be, eternal, not worldly. And no matter what happens, our good is being willed. So if we are not open to receiving that, then it does make it really hard for us to will the good of others.

It makes it really hard, difficult for us to will the good of others because we fall back into that misunderstanding around like, okay, but if I will their good, what if is anybody gonna will mine? Because I know [00:15:00] how flawed humanity is. I know how many times I mess up and don't will the good of others.

So like who's to say like, how can I be sure that I'm going to receive good on my side if. I don't get that first. So a lot of times we're really afraid. We're really afraid to will the good of others first, and we're really afraid to will the good of God first, because there's that lack of fundamental understanding that God wills our good all the time.

So this is part of development of discipline as a kingdom seeker. This is part of the development of discipline is we've got to understand these two key instructions that the best teacher , in the history of the world and in the world to come, gives us if we don't like, really firmly found our understanding of how we show up on this planet in willing, [00:16:00] God's good.

Choosing with our free will to prioritize God's good and then willing the good of others, and trusting that our good will be willed as well, and is being willed as well. If we don't foundationally cement our understanding in this, we're gonna have a problem. We're gonna have lots of problems. And so that takes us over to the whoever hates correction is stupid or brutish, or shortsighted.

How many times do you think that in those moments where you are not firmly founded in those two truths, that God is good and that he wills are good and that we get to will others good. How many times when we fall back into our flesh or slightly turn away or fully turn away from God and we're like, I don't fully trust those two things.

I don't believe those two things that this, [00:17:00] that I've been taught. How often do we do things that are shortsighted? How often do we make mistakes and we're like, well, that was dumb. That was stupid. How often do we act as if out of our own brute physical strength or what we are, our limited sense of understanding?

How often do we do things and then we go, oh gosh, that didn't go the way that I thought it would. That didn't work out how I wanted it to. So discipline, like longing to be teachable here. You accepting those two core truths and you living in those two core truths, even if the only thing you do, like you never watch another one of these weekly wisdoms and you never crack your Bible again, which God forbid that happens.

But like you, you never go back to that instruction. But each and every day, each and every day, in every moment that you notice it. Every moment that God slightly convicts you or fully [00:18:00] convicts you. Every moment that you get that sense of spiritual conviction of, oh, I stopped believing one or both of those two truths, you turned back and you went, okay, I repent.

I understand that what I just did was from willing my own good and not willing the good of others. I understand that what I just did was willing others good. And not ensuring that I was willing, God's good. First, I was people pleasing, or I was condemning or judging others, or I was condemning and judging myself.

I was moving from this state of not understanding that love, if you just practice, just practice that. If you just practiced being disciplined. In applying that instruction and noticing any correction that God, Jesus Holy Spirit give to you. How would your life change? Like [00:19:00] how different would things be?

That commitment to being disciplined, even just to those two commandments is profound. The vast majority of humans. Do not make that commitment. And I think that it is something that truly sets, entrepreneurs, business owners, leaders, executives apart, those who are Christian, those who follow Jesus. There's the set apart of just following Jesus to begin with, and then there's this further setting apart of people who are truly studying and learning and leaning into God's understanding.

And not their own.

I think there's three things that help with this. There are three big things that help us to stay disciplined and there are [00:20:00] things that I've been practicing for the last seven plus months and I do not sit before you here as a human who has been even close to perfect with these things. Okay. I think that this is really key is a lot of times we go to sources like me, like other people on YouTube, like other people who are like living this stuff out in the world, mentors, teachers.

And they teach us, and we make the assumption that these mentors, these teachers, these guides, these leaders do not like battle with their flesh on a daily moment by moment basis. Okay. I wanna just share a little example with you today. So, something that God's really been convicting me around personally is my desire to be able to predict the future, my fleshly desire to be able to know what's gonna happen in the future.

This is a desire that is a very [00:21:00] common desire for humans. It, the desire itself is not wrong or bad. Wanting to be able to know what's gonna happen next because we feel anxious or uncertain or frustrated, or confused or tired or weary or whatever. That's not bad. That's not wrong. And God has given us a lot of instruction around what to do in those moments that we wish we knew what was coming next.

We wish that our right now was. Different than it currently is. We wanna understand what's coming down the pike. We wanna understand what's gonna happen next so that we can plan, so that we can prepare, so that we can feel less anxious, we can feel better. And a lot of times that desire, if we don't lean into the discipline and the wisdom that God provides for us in the Bible, that the Holy Spirit when we are filled with it.

Gives us those that still small voice that [00:22:00] says, Hey, do you see how you're doing this? Hey, do you notice that this is what's going on? If we in those moments, don't go to those sources and get our wisdom from there. If we don't love God's instruction, if we don't appreciate and practice gratitude for the conviction that God gives us in those moments, and yes, we can have feelings about it.

Right. But if we don't like lovingly and gratefully accept that, if instead we hate it or we get frustrated by it or we get annoyed by it, and it's one thing to like get annoyed by it for a moment, right? Because again, we're in these fleshly bodies that have emotions and chemicals and feelings. Like we're going to have feelings.

We're going to have feelings. And.

A moment I was in this morning, I am feeling [00:23:00] so just such a strong urge to be able to predict the future. And we, we've seen this for thousands of years. People turning to divination, people turning to tarot, people turning to astrology, people turning to human design, people turning to all of these different places and spaces and hear me okay.

I am not saying, I am not here to tell you if those things are wrong or not. You go read your Bible, you go talk to your spiritual mentors. You go decide for yourself and for me, my understanding, as hard as it is, I've had to step away from human design. I've had to step away from astrology. I've had to step away from Tarot.

I've had to step away from these things. Whether that is a tool that can be used for good or not, I don't use it for good. I use it to try to predict the future. I use it to try to make my anxiety better in the moment.

So this morning [00:24:00] I wanted to redownload the pattern app, which is an app I used to use all the time. I wanted to see what the stars said about what was going to come in the next. Several days, weeks, months, I wanted a crystal ball. I wanted somebody to speak to me and tell me, this is what's gonna happen for your life, Lee.

This is what's going to happen. This is how the money's gonna work out. This is how the clients are gonna work out. This is how things are gonna happen for your kids. This is how things are gonna happen for your home. This is how things are gonna happen for your health. This is how things are gonna happen for a lot of different areas.

And I felt that urge and I was like. Oh wow. That is me trying to turn away from God and not trust his timing. Not trust his wisdom, not trust His will, not trust that he is trying to do and he is doing good. He is willing, my good. And that if I just sit and be still [00:25:00] and soften my heart and pray and get back in my word, the word.

Get back in my Bible and spend some time with him and share with him how I am feeling because he says that to us. He talks about how his yoke is easy and his burden is light when we come to him and we rest in him. Jesus says that to us. He says, when you're feeling anxious and you're feeling weary and you're feeling the weight of the world on your shoulders, come to me and I will give you rest.

Don't go try to predict the future somewhere so that you can feel better about it. Because guess what? I can change that in a second. You can read that and I can change it 'cause I get to will your good. That does not tell you what's gonna happen.[00:26:00] 

God wants us to lean into his understanding. God wants to be our mentor. He wants to be our teacher. He wants to be our guide. He sent Jesus not just for the salvation of our sins, which would've been enough. More than enough, more than we deserved. He sent him so that we have like a living, breathing place that we can learn from him every day.

The disciples didn't have that. They helped create that for us so that we could have that. God gave us his words so that as people who love to learn, we could study and we could understand and we could like glean greater discernment and wisdom from that. And so when God gives us that instruction and gives us that knowledge, that is a beautiful thing.

And once you learn that's only half of being a disciple. The other half is [00:27:00] accepting that correction. The other half is accepting that proof. The other half is allowing the mentor who knows what you need and knows what you want to help you learn how to discern the next best path forward in accordance with God's will.

And if you don't trust that mentorship. If you don't trust them once you choose them, 'cause I've seen this. If number one, we don't choose the right earthly mentors. We don't choose the right earthly teachers. We choose teachers who do not seek the kingdom of God. First, we choose teachers who do not honor our free will.

We choose teachers who do not obey those two commandments. First and foremost, we choose people to teach us and to mentor us who don't consistently make it a practice and who aren't disciplined in turning back and drawing closer to God, [00:28:00] to fearing and respecting and honoring him. We choose people who don't do this.

And then we trust them and we wonder why things don't work, or we choose mentors or, and we choose mentors. We choose teachers, we choose guides who give us good godly wisdom and discernment and ins and use their discernment to give us instruction, to gently correct us, to rebuke us to say, Hey, do you see this?

Hey, do you see how this is what, what's going on? Hey, do you see how this is how you're showing up? Hey, did you notice that when you tried to do it this way? This didn't work. Can we look at why? Can I show you some things? What questions do you have? Where do you think you're struggling? My husband is one of these humans who I go to and who I trust implicitly for mentorship around a lot of things.

And yesterday I said to him, I'm really [00:29:00] struggling with hope. There's a part of me that feels like I should stop hoping and I'm wondering if, and I heard these words come outta my mouth and he convicted me quite quickly as I was already convicting myself. I heard these words say, I wonder if God's trying to get me to hopeless.

And he was like, that's not something God would do. Right. As I was like, that's not something God would do. That's the devil. That was really good at sometimes making it sound like God, or questioning what he said. The serpent in the garden with Adam and Eve to Eve. Did God really say, did God really tell you to hope?

Did God really tell you that it was okay to rest? Did God really say that He's gonna will your good? Did God really tell you to love others as he loves yourself? As you love yourself? Did God really say that he uses God's words and he twists them? So that came up after I was reading something about false hope and I was like, do I have false hope?

And my husband said something so incredible in that moment. He said, [00:30:00] I do not think it is wrong for you to hope for things to happen. I don't think it's wrong for you to even get disappointed or frustrated or feel sad or have feelings around when they don't. I think what God doesn't want you to do is to use that as.

A way to not love yourself, not love others, not love him, like to kind of get stuck in those feelings and to, then in those feelings and through those feelings, start to think of falsehoods around how God loves you and how God wants you to show up and how he wills your good, and how you then need to act in, in relationship with others.

I don't think God wants you to stop willing the good of others or trusting that he doesn't will your good. And I'm paraphrasing, like I'm adding context to what he said. But I was like, wow, that's it. [00:31:00] God wants me to go after these things. God wants me to pursue him. He wants me to live boldly in my faith.

He wants me to come on here and do these things that he's been calling me toward and preparing me for and instructing me in, and so that I can, quote scripture I can. Send people to specific places in the Bible. I can talk about the biblical wisdom around business and leadership and I can have Proverbs off the top of my head to share with people.

Like I can do those things. He's been preparing me for that so that's not the issue. The issue is that I'm stepping out there and I'm making a lot more moves in this new area than I ever have, and so I'm going to. Need a lot more instruction and correction and direction, because I've never done this before and I've gotta be open to his reproof.

I've gotta be open to his correction. I've gotta be open to the mentorship of the trusted humans that I have in my life. When they see something and they're like, Hey Lee, did you see that you just did this? Or like, Hey, did you notice? Or [00:32:00] I gotta tell you something. I've gotta be able to go to them and ask questions to be like, Hey, where did you see some places that I could have done this differently?

Where do you see some places that I stumbled, like, correct me, can help me experience conviction and praying to the Holy Spirit for that too? Holy Spirit, please clear my heart of anything that is not of God. Soften my heart further, help me be more vulnerable. Help me perceive. Help me see what you want me to see.

Help me understand what you want me to understand. Help me lean into your understanding through and through prayer and supplication. Seek you, God. We've gotta lastly, notice the dysregulation that arises when people correct or reproof us. This is something I, God has been convicting me around and I feel so blessed, and so grateful and so excited to be able to say that like [00:33:00] my ability to tolerate correction.

My ability to appreciate reproof and correction has grown so much over these last eight months, like more than I ever thought was possible. I used to be one of the most defensive people when you would come to me about specific things I needed to be right, so I would not. Be able to even hear, let alone take in and do something with the correction of a boss or my husband or even one of my children, one of my parents, like somebody that I loved.

And it was because I didn't have that fundamental foundational truth like in my bones, in my soul, of sometimes God's sending people to me. And he is sharing this correction and direction and reproof through them so that I can grow because I've asked him to help me be more [00:34:00] disciplined.

I've asked him to help me grow in this area. So I'm sending away messengers because I don't think they look the way they're supposed to look or I am judging and shaming myself so much with their words that I can't see that these people are willing. My good. Or even if this person's not willing, my good, God's willing, my good through this person.

So that's what I've had to start asking myself is when somebody gives me correction direction, reproof, when I feel that sense of conviction, stopping and going, like, God, is this your will? And so clearly in those moments it's an easy yes or no. Yeah. This person is willing, my good. Or this person may not be willing my good, but God's willing, my good through what this person is saying to me.

So where, what do I need to understand? What instruction do I need to receive? What correction do I need to make? What change do I wanna implement?[00:35:00] 

And I will say that I've made a lot less stupid moves. I've still made some stupid moves and I made a lot less of them, and in fact, I've started making a lot more wise, like God led moves from there. So reproof and correction should bring conviction. We want it to bring conviction. We want it to make the way forward in seeking the kingdom of God clearer.

And if we've got some human wounds, if we've got some past painful experiences of people not willing our good, or us perceiving that people weren't willing our good through their correction, whether that was our parents or a former pastor or priest, or a teacher or somebody in that authority position.

Where [00:36:00] they either did not have the intent of will our good or they truly were trying to will our good, and the way in which they were communicating it to us, we couldn't hear. It wasn't how we needed to hear it, it was how they wanted to say it. So they willed our good, but they didn't say it in the way that we, that was good for us.

Whether it was either of those two scenarios, if you've got wounding around that, it's going to make it harder for you to receive correction and direction. It just is. You're gonna have resistance to it. You're gonna struggle with it. You're going to have shame, and it's going to feel like condemnation at times.

And so this is where a lot of us in our quest to become more mature and become better leaders and entrepreneurs and owners and executives is to become better mentors and teachers is if you're gonna be giving instruction and correction, if you're going to be seeking the will of God. First, and then the willing the good of others.

From there, you've gotta be [00:37:00] able to take it too, and in fact, you've gotta be able to take it first, or it's gonna be really hard for people to trust you because they're going to not just listen to what you say. They're gonna watch how you walk, and if you can't do the thing that you are trying to teach them how to do, then they're gonna struggle to trust you.

So that is what I have for today. Went a little longer today just because we're not doing the q and a part, and I hope you will join us next week. In the comments, I would love to hear any of the takeaways that you want to share. I would absolutely love for you to share this with somebody that you think could really benefit from it.

Thank you for being here. Thank you for spending your time with me, and I pray that this week that God will convict you in the ways that you need convicted, and he will correct you in the ways you need corrected, and he will reproof you in the ways you need reproof and that [00:38:00] you will be able to see it and hear it and perceive it, and take it in with an open heart and an open mind, and you will be able to love the instruction that he gives you.

God, thank you so much for bringing us all together today. I love you. I appreciate you and may we all continue to seek your kingdom first and continue to love others as we love ourselves. Amen.