SPEAKER_00 0:06

Closed spicy lip gloss, thank you. Episode 16.

SPEAKER_01 0:12

Welcome back.

unknown 0:13

Hi.

SPEAKER_01 0:15

Take my eye off. Oh. Make it look different.

SPEAKER_00 0:17

I mean, I'm wearing the same outfit. What do we have underneath that? Hey guys, welcome back to Stasi Spills episode 16. These outfits look familiar because we wore this in the last we're doing back-to-back outfits today. Dylan is here with me, my fiancee.

SPEAKER_01 0:31

Yay. Glad to be here.

SPEAKER_00 0:34

Yeah, honestly, episode two or sixteen. Back to we're we're back to backing today. We have lots. This is on the table here. We've got our Dylan made komucha. Cheers.

SPEAKER_01 0:45

I I don't have any in my cup. I'll cheers out. Cheers.

SPEAKER_00 0:51

I don't know. Take a sip. Oh my god. We talked about this in the last episode. I really don't like kombucha.

SPEAKER_01 1:02

It's good. It it came out good.

SPEAKER_00 1:05

I think maybe if it was like super chilled, I would have like it would be less. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:10

If it was colder?

SPEAKER_00 1:12

I uh five ice cubes.

SPEAKER_01 1:14

Ice cubes. We can do that.

SPEAKER_00 1:16

The strain pulp. Strain it out vibes. I'm thinking about the bananas that we have on the counter. This is my brain. Just like already today has been a lot. I'm like, we have bananas on the counter at home. I want to make banana bread. Yeah. Maybe I'll do that when I go home. Chocolate chips.

SPEAKER_01 1:33

Hmm. And kombucha.

SPEAKER_00 1:36

No. See, you lost me there.

SPEAKER_01 1:38

What else could you add to banana bread though? Walnut. Cinnamon.

SPEAKER_00 1:42

Well, if there's cinnamon in there, it calls for a good amount of cinnamon.

SPEAKER_01 1:45

Walnuts.

SPEAKER_00 1:46

Nuts. Pecans. Some people do cranberries. I don't think that's right.

SPEAKER_01 1:50

I've never had it with cranberry.

SPEAKER_00 1:52

No. That's a southern thing. We're from the south.

SPEAKER_01 1:56

Some people would attest or you always say that we are from the south.

SPEAKER_00 2:00

It is more southern. I had an accent when I moved here. Which is also crazy. Well, you refute it, but we are. Yeah, it's from like damn near North Carolina. Not the deep south, but south.

SPEAKER_03 2:13

Does it come out? Like in certain times?

SPEAKER_00 2:16

If I'm talking to my family or my birth mom, because she has a her, she never moved from Virginia and she lives in Portsmouth. So she's got but she has a it's a different, there's different slang and also like accents between like the little areas, and hers is such an interesting accent, but mine was different. But like when I talked to her, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:34

Yeah, I didn't uh you grew because we grew up, I didn't think anything of how people talked, but it's very distinct now. Yes. Like hearing people talk like that.

SPEAKER_00 2:44

And even the words that people use or like sayings that people will say, and I feel like that was really illuminated. Because when I first moved here, I worked at like uh it was a retail store for a distributor, and it was like all mostly older white women, and they would always be calling me out for my accent, or like what that's the weirdest, like uh what is the word for like the sayings or whatever? Like the phrases, or they're like, where did it what is that? I'm like, oh, that's very I guess that's a southern dialect. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:11

Is that is that right?

SPEAKER_00 3:12

No, dialect, I don't know. I think it's more I don't know, but yeah. And also California has its very, very own, like the way that people say things. It's very Cali.

SPEAKER_01 3:21

You're Southern. I'm not.

SPEAKER_00 3:24

It's also, I think it's like we're raised by two different types of families. I was raised by a Caribbean, a Haitian woman. So there's also part of that that goes into all of it, you know. We had very different upbringings, although we were down the street from each other. Different food. His mom cooks the best food. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 3:45

What were we just talking about?

SPEAKER_00 3:47

I don't know how we let into this.

SPEAKER_01 3:48

I don't know how we got on that.

SPEAKER_00 3:50

I don't know. Now I'm thinking about your mom's food.

SPEAKER_01 3:52

Oh, you're talking about banana bread and cooking.

SPEAKER_00 3:55

Yeah. I think the baking is very like I learned all my good baking recipes from people over there. People be baking.

SPEAKER_01 4:02

There's nothing else to do.

SPEAKER_00 4:04

There's not.

SPEAKER_01 4:05

There's literally nothing else to do.

SPEAKER_00 4:07

There's not. There's so many good baking. I do love I do love to bake.

unknown 4:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:12

My Sunday bake is the call is what it used to be called.

SPEAKER_01 4:15

Yeah, you are literally the meme of that cartoon where they're they're they're baking. They have a tray of cupcakes and the house is on fire. That is literally you.

SPEAKER_00 4:26

I like to bake when I'm stressed out.

SPEAKER_01 4:28

Mm-hmm. Does it help?

SPEAKER_00 4:30

I don't know, maybe. Gives you something to think about and do. But then I'm ending up like um there was like a TikTok or something I said, Dylan, the other day, it was like when there's like a gym bro who's dating like the baking girl who's like the gym bro's trying to eat healthy, and like when you come home and there's like Dude, I literally can't.

SPEAKER_01 4:46

I talk about this at work all the time. Because guys at work are like, I'm cutting, or I'm like, dude, there's no cutting or anything too. I'm like, I yeah. If I'm not eating fucking turkey and a gallon of milk, then I go home and there's like piles of food. There is like I baked this for you and this, and there's cake pops now, and here's this, and I'm like, okay, I guess I guess I'm not gonna listen to it.

SPEAKER_00 5:13

Yeah, sometimes the food's I feel like I put on my healthier food kick, but sometimes it'd be like the most random extra stuff that took me out. Because I like to take make stuff. When if I'm just making something for me to eat, I will make something easy. Like we were talking about. Ooh, have you seen those videos where people do it's like egg roll in a bowl? It's like a one-pot egg roll. It's so good. So you and you, it's really easy, but it's a lot of veggies, so it's like it's the cold slaw mix, which is like you know, cabbage and like carrots, and I think like some other lettuce. And then I get the broccoli broccoli slaw, and I think I put one other, I can't remember what it's like a shredded something vegetable. Put it all in a thing. You do rice white vinegar, you do hoisen sauce, but I have to get gluten-free hoisin sauce, soy sauce, and then I do put a little bit of sesame oil in it, and then you do it with ground turkey. So it's a bunch of vegetables, and it's just like steamed ground, you know, and it's so good. But it's it's like I make a huge pot of that and we eat it for a couple days, and then but anyways, like we'll be on my healthy things. It's delicious. But then sometimes I just like I love a soup because it takes a lot of chopping, a lot of time to cook and get it ready, or like a chili, or try to think what other things I make that just take forever. I'm not as extravagant of Paulina, like she will make like a Paulina makes the best food. Her stuff though, it's taking all day because she's making like bread and she's doing the whole thing. She's like, Yeah, but we do make a lot. I think um I made Valentine's Day cookies that were very cute recently and they were very tasty.

SPEAKER_03 6:34

Speaking of Paulina, go to the engagement. She just got behind the scenes of it all.

SPEAKER_00 6:39

Yeah, we just we went to Mammoth Lakes. Um, it was January like 30th or something, or 31st. She got engaged, so it's almost her one month. Her fiance told us that we she was gonna get engaged, so we kind of knew. Um prepped her like an engagement bag, like some um gifts and stuff, and we ended up going up on like a Wednesday super late, and Thursday was the engagement day. I mean, she knew something was up all day because I was like bullying her trying to get her together. Um it was great. Yeah, it was really and Mammoth was like it was cold. There was lots of snow. They did snow activities, he snowboarded, I did not. Um, we stayed at a really like one of the nice, nicest hotels I've stayed in a long time, and their breakfast was so the breakfast was good, the food was good. Do you remember what it was called?

SPEAKER_01 7:28

Yeah, it was called the Limelight.

SPEAKER_00 7:30

The Limelight Hotel was so good, super nice, beautiful views. I didn't get like altitude sickness.

SPEAKER_01 7:36

And we vlogged it, so it's up on YouTube if you guys want to watch it.

SPEAKER_00 7:39

I didn't show like any of the hotel or any of the food. I had the best lemon lemon drops of my life there.

SPEAKER_01 7:46

I know. Lemon drops with tequila instead of it was like the only black eye mammoth made you a lemon drop.

SPEAKER_00 7:52

God bless. And he would see me at the bar and be like, hey.

SPEAKER_01 7:54

He's great.

SPEAKER_00 7:55

And yeah, we had a different like bartender, and every time he'd see me up there, he'd help come help me. And I'm like, thank God.

SPEAKER_01 8:00

You go up there, you see somebody who's like remotely black, and you're like, No, he's like sister.

SPEAKER_00 8:04

Hello. I'm like, hey, we ended up getting pulled over too that night was a whole thing.

SPEAKER_01 8:09

That was my bad.

SPEAKER_00 8:09

Well, well, you I guess there was like no light on in the back. But then they like pulled the dogs out, and the dogs were barking, and they're like, What's going on? I was like, is that necessary for the lights to that's so intense? Like the dog was screaming and had the like thing on in the window looking at him. I was like, oh my god. But yeah, we were fine. Paulina said it was because we were like the once again, like they see like an interracial couple and they're like, Stop them.

SPEAKER_01 8:33

No, there's two in the car.

SPEAKER_00 8:35

No, literally, like, those aren't white people.

SPEAKER_01 8:38

No, it was fun.

SPEAKER_00 8:39

No, but the I mean, they were nice enough. They let us go. After like saying 15 times, we thought you were drinking. We were like, but we weren't swerving, we weren't going anywhere. We were just driving from freaking oceanside. It's an eight-hour drive. Like, sister, let us we're trying to get home into our apartments and sleep. But it was beautiful, it was cold.

SPEAKER_01 8:57

You do not like the cold.

SPEAKER_00 8:59

No.

SPEAKER_01 9:00

No. When you see snow, you get stressed out. It's disrespectful. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:06

It's pretty, but like, no. Like a day.

SPEAKER_01 9:09

Anything that's not like a bright blue ocean with clear white sand.

SPEAKER_00 9:14

Well, it could be a lake. It could be a lake, a waterfall.

SPEAKER_01 9:18

Then you freak out, you're like, this is not a good situation.

SPEAKER_00 9:21

This is not the place for me. I feel out of water, literally. We were there for like three or four nights. It was a lot. And I got like this like little ski suit or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 9:31

You know, I I regret not going to the hot springs again while we were there.

SPEAKER_00 9:35

The hot springs were fun when we went for your birthday, but I also, it was so much colder. We went in August or no, uh April last year for his birthday. And we went in January. It was so cold. I can't imagine going into a hot spring and then trying to get changed back in your clothes when it's that cold.

SPEAKER_01 9:49

There's a few mornings we probably could have gone because we were waking up pretty early, and I regret like not just going over there while we were doing it.

SPEAKER_00 9:56

The hot springs were cool though.

SPEAKER_01 9:58

It was fun.

SPEAKER_00 9:59

Imagine stepping on the snow to get into the hot spring.

SPEAKER_01 10:01

What did you think of um a Knight of the Seven Kingdoms?

SPEAKER_00 10:05

Dylan has been. What is this? A Game of Thrones spinoff? Is it? I think so.

SPEAKER_01 10:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:13

Yeah, because they talk about the houses and stuff. Yeah. Oh, okay. So this is very Game of Thrones esque.

SPEAKER_01 10:18

Tom, we just finished the whole season.

SPEAKER_00 10:20

Well, you're telling them. Go ahead. I was watching it with Dylan, who's read the book, so he was comparing it to the book the whole time. Um, I think it could have been a really great show, I guess, but there was like it was like a 45-minute episode, and for 35 of the minutes, they were showing a bunch of like hoopla, and then there would be like a 10-minute hoopla.

SPEAKER_02 10:39

That's the South right there.

SPEAKER_00 10:40

Is that the South game out? It's just like it was annoying. Like it was annoying because it would set up like there's like talking about this tournament for three fucking episodes. He gets to the tournament episode, they're going back and forth about all this stupid shit. He sells his goddamn horse. He's like, Oh, whatever. What's the horse's name? Oh, sweet meadow or whatever. I'm gonna, I'm gonna get you back, blah, blah, blah. I'm gonna win you back. And then come to find out he's not a knight, he hasn't been knighted, he's been lying to everybody. He's this big ass mountain of a man, he's supposed to be like seven, ten or some shit.

SPEAKER_01 11:13

You can't prove he's not a knight.

SPEAKER_00 11:15

We can. They proved it in the last episode.

SPEAKER_01 11:16

No, they didn't.

SPEAKER_00 11:17

Whatever. He doesn't know how to knight nobody. He doesn't know any of the like the customary well, cuz what is it called? Like, if there's supposed to be like the knightly things, like he doesn't know any of the things he's supposed to be doing, he doesn't know like it's not a ritual, but like if you're it's supposed to be certain ways, like he doesn't know how to do anything.

SPEAKER_01 11:34

Somebody asks he doesn't know the customs of knighthood. And how do you know that's not what makes a great knight?

SPEAKER_00 11:41

He did stand up for an innocent woman, but it ended up getting him snapped up.

SPEAKER_01 11:44

Yes, he's honorable, defends the innocent, good fighter. Was he though?

SPEAKER_00 11:49

I don't and that kind of no. The whole thing. But he's also just like a mountain, so he kind of just like throws his weight around, but in the stupidest ways. He's like, he's like fighting this guy, one of the king's sons, because like they say that he No, he gets in trouble because the kid Okay, so y'all know about if you don't watch. I mean, whatever. My people, I promise you they're not like, ooh, you spoil it. You got if you watch the Game of Thrones, which is like the dragon people, the Targaryens, one of them, it's like later, later, later after all the dragons have been killed and all of that stuff has happened. Um one of the Targaryens, the blonde-haired people, was like, they were doing the townspeople were doing like a puppet show and they were sh like showing people slaying the dragons, and then the Targaryen guy got mad and he was drunk little rich boy, Arian blah blah blah. Goes up to the girl and like starts beating her up. They're slaying everybody because she's just like doing a puppet show, and then he starts like bending her fingers back and snapping them. The big ass mountain guy, what's his name? Duke Dune, Sir Dunkin' Sir Duncan, the tall. He sees it's happening, he's like, You can't don't like hurt her or whatever. So he runs up there and he tries to save her, and then of course, like he starts kicking the freaking Targaryen dude's teeth out, and you can't do that because he's a prince or whatever. So he gets in trouble and he gets thrown into this like cell, and they're like, Okay, well, you get to um trial by force, or what do they call it?

SPEAKER_01 13:09

Trial by fucking He demands a trial by combat and Aryan rebuttals and I'm gonna be able to do that. So it's seven on seven.

SPEAKER_00 13:18

I'm not doing one by one. I'm doing you're you have the right to trial by whatever, one by one, one v one. He's like, actually, that's funny. Targaryen boy said, I'm not going against your big tall ass. Um, seven on seven, except for Sir Duncan the tall has no friends or family that's ready to fight for him, so he's just like scrambling trying to find anybody. So he found a couple noble people that were ready to fight with him.

SPEAKER_01 13:43

And which is it sounds like you like the show.

SPEAKER_00 13:46

No, I I think the the premise was good. I think that it was just really annoying. There's a little there's a little Targaryen boy named Egg who we didn't think was a Targaryen the whole time, but then he was like, he ran away from home, blah blah blah. He's cute. He knows like, and that's the thing. He knew all the he was like correcting the guy, like, you can't, this is like the nightly thing. Like he didn't know anything.

SPEAKER_01 14:06

That's why they're a good pair.

SPEAKER_00 14:07

Yeah. Horror.

SPEAKER_01 14:10

I like his horses. I like how he gave out one of them chestnuts.

SPEAKER_00 14:14

The chestnut horse is in chestnut.

SPEAKER_01 14:16

The next book he's crying because he doesn't have chestnut anymore.

SPEAKER_00 14:20

What happened to chestnut? He gave away the white one. Why did it die?

SPEAKER_01 14:25

Uh I think so. I don't want to spoil anything.

SPEAKER_00 14:28

Well, and then that's the thing, because his friend, after he gave away his horse because he needed money to put like into the freaking tourney or whatever that he ended up not even being able to like participate in because he fought the fucking prince's or king's son. He couldn't even so he gave away his horse. Whatever.

SPEAKER_01 14:43

I'm like, what he sold it for his armor. He sold it. Oh, that's right.

SPEAKER_00 14:46

He needed uh armor or some shit.

SPEAKER_01 14:48

His friend sounds like he liked it.

SPEAKER_00 14:49

His friend gives him his horse back only for him to be like Raymond Foss away. Thanks for helping me fight. You can have my horse. Bitch has nothing to his name except for these three horses. I think you should keep the horse. It was a noble thing to do. He gave it to his friend. But now finding that the other horse is gonna be dead, like he has one horse. I can't. I also my gripe is Dylan was telling me when he was reading this book that this dude was supposed to be tall, like heads taller than everybody.

SPEAKER_01 15:14

In the book, he's like 6'11.

SPEAKER_00 15:16

In the show, he gives like 6'2, so he's tall, but not like they're not even like pretending in the it's just like for me, it's a continuity thing. If he's supposed to be so much bigger than everybody, because they call him Duncan the Tall and the they keep referencing the tall, I'm like, but they're looking at him like this. Yeah. Like you need to like crane your neck a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 15:30

The actor is like 6'5.

SPEAKER_00 15:33

But when they're walking, even when they're walking next to each other in the show, I'm like, can they?

SPEAKER_01 15:37

Well, that's why that's why they can't get a person who's actually seven feet tall. Because then they're not gonna be in the street.

SPEAKER_00 15:45

Yeah, or something to make him.

SPEAKER_01 15:46

That person's not gonna be in frame.

SPEAKER_00 15:48

That's the point. That's why like every actor needs to be it needs to be like this looking at donkeys.

SPEAKER_03 15:52

That would be a funny shot, Loki. It's just like I think that's the point cuts up and down.

SPEAKER_00 15:55

Especially when they're talking about like the when he's looking at the kings and having like serious conversations, they're supposed to be looking up at him. It would make more like sense, but I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 16:04

Well, I know I'm super tall, but we don't all just grow on trees. You can't just find one of us tall folk walking around.

SPEAKER_00 16:10

That's an actor.

SPEAKER_01 16:11

You have to cast them somebody who's almost as tall as me, you know?

SPEAKER_00 16:14

Right.

SPEAKER_01 16:15

I'm just joking.

SPEAKER_00 16:16

That's a short king.

SPEAKER_01 16:17

I'm short.

SPEAKER_00 16:18

We love a short king.

SPEAKER_01 16:20

No, the show is the show is fucking awesome. It's a decent show, it's just annoying.

SPEAKER_00 16:23

I think that and then like you they they set up the whole show for this, like the only 15 minutes, it seems like, and I'm like, could we have gotten a little bit more?

SPEAKER_01 16:31

Yeah, but it was one of the best fight scenes in TV ever.

SPEAKER_00 16:35

Okay. It was it was annoying. Which of the girls kept cutting away, and that's the thing. They in the middle of the cut fight scene, they keep cutting away from when he's a baby or something. I was like, cut the camera. I'm tired. Like, stop doing this back and forth in the future, in the past, in the future. I can't do that. Which of the girls did you there wasn't many girls in the show?

SPEAKER_01 16:56

The puppeter, there's the redheaded girl.

SPEAKER_00 17:00

Don't remember her. The girl that made the armor.

SPEAKER_01 17:02

There's um the Ashford girl. It's her birthday party the whole fucking tournament.

SPEAKER_00 17:07

She said, Yeah, she's funny. She she said, Um, it's okay for ruining my name day or my birthday, because y'all had to fight. It was a nice show. I'm like, I understand that. I think if I was like a princess and people were like fighting, I'd be like, that's fine. It's okay. You'd be like, hell yeah. Thank you. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:23

Oh man, remember I was asking you what your house sigil would be if you were in Game of Thrones?

SPEAKER_00 17:29

I'd love to ask that. Yeah, what's I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 17:30

I think yours would have to be like a fucking moon.

SPEAKER_00 17:32

Yeah, for sure. Like a moon, but then like what's the vibe? A moon like with a siren underneath it in the water, like there'd be like a lot of things. That's so elaborate.

SPEAKER_01 17:39

You can't be doing all that.

SPEAKER_00 17:40

Why?

SPEAKER_01 17:41

Because people just get like a fucking like the the Starks just have like a wolf or something.

SPEAKER_00 17:45

Well, they're gonna have to find a lot of things.

SPEAKER_01 17:46

The lanterns just get like a lion. You're like adding all these details.

SPEAKER_00 17:49

Like a moon reflecting off the water's edge, and there's like a mermaid hitting on it.

SPEAKER_01 17:54

So a moon and a mermaid is gonna be your house, Sitril?

SPEAKER_00 17:58

The moon is, but the mermaid's being reflected outside of the thing, yeah. There's gotta be mermaids in Game of Thrones, there's dragons and wolves. There's a mermaid.

SPEAKER_01 18:05

I don't know. I don't even think there's like are there like sirens and stuff? There's gotta be.

SPEAKER_00 18:09

There's people on boats. Whatever there's people on boats, there's siren lore. In all things, there's siren lore.

SPEAKER_01 18:15

Nah, there's gotta be sirens.

SPEAKER_00 18:17

I wonder why that is. Everybody's talking to each other. Oh, there's siren. No, they've seen them.

SPEAKER_03 18:22

Speaking of shows, have you guys did you guys watch Fallout?

SPEAKER_00 18:26

We didn't finish.

SPEAKER_01 18:26

No, we started the newest season.

SPEAKER_00 18:28

We haven't finished.

SPEAKER_01 18:30

No.

SPEAKER_00 18:30

No. You know what I can't get over? When people get too much work done between seasons.

SPEAKER_03 18:35

Who's it?

SPEAKER_00 18:36

I think that the main girl is Fallout the one that I'm thinking where they're in the bunker. Yeah. I feel like she got something to her face, and no shade, because I think you're beautiful. It's it's distracting.

SPEAKER_03 18:45

She looks like a drawing of like a person.

SPEAKER_00 18:47

Maybe they're putting a filter or something then to make it look more like the animation, like the game.

SPEAKER_03 18:53

She also just doesn't look real. She has huge eyes.

SPEAKER_00 18:55

It is that, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:56

And I'm like I think she got lips or something.

SPEAKER_00 18:58

It does. And I don't, and I'm like, when you're an actress, it's really but between seasons, it gets me. If it was if she looked like at the beginning, I'd be like, makes sense.

SPEAKER_03 19:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:06

But imagine if like Cersei or something, or like one of the girls. That's what happened with Lily Bobby Brown between the last episodes.

SPEAKER_03 19:12

Oh my god. She looks 48. It's like, no, she's supposed to be 17 or something.

SPEAKER_00 19:16

No, well, I think they all that's the show's fault for waiting so long. But it's like she's serving face between the last episodes. It's just so insane.

SPEAKER_01 19:24

Was she 18 or over in the last year? She's like 20 something in the last episode. She's like 20 something. She had a baby.

SPEAKER_00 19:28

Well, she didn't have a baby, she adopted a baby. She's like 23 now.

SPEAKER_01 19:31

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_00 19:32

She adopted a baby with her husband.

SPEAKER_03 19:35

Hmm.

SPEAKER_00 19:36

And Finn or whatever his name is, not Finn. What's whatever will is the goddad.

SPEAKER_03 19:43

Like real life.

SPEAKER_00 19:44

Oh, yeah, the goddad in real life. The pictures of them like shielding the baby from proparazzi is like my favorite thing. I'm like, yeah, you protect that child. Hello?

SPEAKER_03 19:51

22.

SPEAKER_00 19:52

Her face card is lethal. But it's just like when the show started and they were like so young. I'm like, y'all couldn't have recorded these back to back and back to back to the cards.

SPEAKER_01 19:59

She looks super British.

SPEAKER_00 20:01

Well, she's British.

SPEAKER_01 20:02

I know. There's something you can just tell for them.

SPEAKER_00 20:05

She's so I'm sure they could they say the same thing about Americans. They're super American, yeah. It's the jaw.

SPEAKER_01 20:12

It's something. I have no idea what it is.

SPEAKER_00 20:14

But also imagine just I think that she's beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 20:17

I didn't say she wasn't.

SPEAKER_00 20:19

She just looked British. Well, there's no inflation in there. Stunning.

SPEAKER_03 20:23

I just think it's crazy when an actress gets a lot of black plastic surgery because they usually are. I know they tell them not.

SPEAKER_01 20:30

Are we gonna like look back at this whole era and be like, why were people doing that? Is it like when we look back at like the 80s and we're like, why were people doing that with their hair?

SPEAKER_00 20:38

Yeah, they probably were.

SPEAKER_01 20:39

Are they gonna go like oh dude, the 2020s, bro? Like, people were just doing putting everything.

SPEAKER_00 20:44

It's happening right now with BBLs. People are getting their BBLs out. Like the Kardashians are getting their BBLs out. Like, wow.

SPEAKER_01 20:51

Are guys gonna start getting BBLs? Is that what's gonna say?

SPEAKER_00 20:54

There's a rumor that Drake has a BBL. What? Really? BBL Drizzy. Have you not heard that song?

SPEAKER_01 20:59

No, that's a conspiracy rap.

SPEAKER_00 21:02

No, that's a nice. It's like you missed that. There's a conspiracy that Drake has a BBL. That's where BBL Drizzy came out. The best BBL in history. I've said it, but later.

SPEAKER_01 21:12

Really?

SPEAKER_00 21:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:14

Hmm.

SPEAKER_00 21:14

There's like, yeah, and then he gets he he looks maxed. He's always like moging the camera.

SPEAKER_01 21:19

What do you think of looks max?

SPEAKER_00 21:20

I think well, who are we talking about? I think that the only person when I think of looks maxing, I've only seen it that clavicular person who's Oh, you're finally so clicked. I saw, and I'm like, and he's been like openly talking about how he does meth. I'm like, what's happening? Yeah, he's like, Oh, that's how I get so ripped. I'm like, are you okay? No, I think he's crazy. And also, what's looks maxing where you just like work out and take care of your looks? Like, I don't think that's a problem. But I think like you're doing meth to stay skinny and you're talking about it online. Got the cameras. Sorry, I think I'm away from my mic. I think that's crazy. But also, people have been looks maxing if we're talking about it. Like, girls have been doing this, like models have been doing it for forever. When you think about that, like Vogue, um, it's in the Magazines, what is it from the 80s when the girls were doing like you had a uh egg for half an egg for breakfast? They tubbed you you could have a coffee and wine. Lunch, you had the other half of the egg, want another glass of wine, and then for because you're just drunk all day. And then dinner, I think you had like um what was it? It was like a pork chop, but it was like a piece of a a thing, um, and then another glass of wine. Basically, you had whole glass a whole bottle of wine a day, uh, an egg, and like two cups of coffee. That's just looks maxing, baby. That's not gut maxing.

SPEAKER_03 22:29

That's gut maxing. Looks maxing was made popular by the incel community as a way for them to then become like wanted. Wanted. Um, it's gotten extreme because they have really gotten into like jaw surgery. And I'm pretty sure they've talked about like at-home jaw surgery.

SPEAKER_01 22:52

Yeah, dude, but girls have been like they've been doing that shit. Girls are not. They've been doing surgery.

SPEAKER_00 22:58

Yeah, surgery is different than people that are incels that are like, well, let's fix her face. It's not the fact that you're ugly, it's the fact that you're a piece of shit.

SPEAKER_02 23:06

True.

SPEAKER_00 23:07

There's so many people that are not conventionally attractive that have really beautiful partners because they're good people and they have lots of love to offer rather than the incel people.

SPEAKER_02 23:15

That's hard to teach. That's hard to teach. She's like looking at me while she's saying that.

SPEAKER_01 23:20

She's like, There's lots of ugly people with good partners.

SPEAKER_00 23:23

No, that's not what I'm saying. But like, you know, it's I think it's really down to also how you treat people. It's super attractive. Like, you don't have to be doing it. I'm gonna start looking away from you.

SPEAKER_01 23:33

There's lots of people that punch up in their weight class and get more attractive partners than what they're deserving of based on appearance.

SPEAKER_00 23:41

Yeah, but it doesn't have to be appearance. Like, if you're giving a lot of other things, I won't look at you. If you're giving a lot of other things, I think it's like worth it. Like the incel community is not lonely enough, actually. I think they need to be lonelier. Wow. Yeah. Cause then they're the those are the type of people that like when when they have been when they're asking a girl for their number, then it's like, well, you're a stupid, ugly bitch anyways. And it's like, okay, that's fucking crazy, or they're stalking you through Walmart, or like they're putting a camera in your face, like the stupid bitch said bubble, and you're like, Whoa, I just said that I have a boyfriend. So I'm good.

SPEAKER_01 24:11

That's no way to talk to people.

SPEAKER_00 24:12

I'll talk to anybody how I want.

SPEAKER_01 24:15

Apparently, I was saying that's no way for them to talk to people.

SPEAKER_00 24:18

Yeah, but I will also.

SPEAKER_03 24:20

But what miles? You're good. A part of like the looks maxing jaw, they have a jaw hack of like how to get a surgery, is they'll fake their sleep studies to show that they're getting bad sleep and then they'll get a jaw surgery.

SPEAKER_00 24:35

Wouldn't that just be a nose thing? Like if you're having bad sleep and they're saying it's like you're breathing bad.

SPEAKER_01 24:40

It's probably both.

SPEAKER_00 24:41

Also, just pay for your plastic surgery.

SPEAKER_01 24:44

But to get like your insurance to cover it. Because your insurance isn't gonna cover it.

SPEAKER_00 24:47

Yeah, but are they covering the no, because there's a difference between medical intervention and getting like actual what they call the cosmetics of it. So how are they getting a cosmetic jawline? Also, get some Botox. I don't know. You get well, I guess they don't want to pay for it. Is that what you're saying?

SPEAKER_03 25:03

Yeah. I don't know. Also, the whole mewing thing. Yes, the mewing. Yeah. That's like the low-tier version of the jaw surgery.

SPEAKER_01 25:12

I need to learn all this stuff, honestly. I gotta step up my game. See, you're good at it.

SPEAKER_00 25:19

No, it's not good. You sit there and you're just like, you know, your lips are always But it's also like when they're on livestream all the time, and you won't catch them not making a face.

SPEAKER_03 25:29

You know. Well, they probably just stare at the camera and do that and hardly say anything.

SPEAKER_00 25:34

Posing 24-7. Yeah, and that's it's scary.

SPEAKER_03 25:37

Oh, one of the biggest names is Kareem Shami, a 22-year-old student in San Diego. Podcast guys. Oh no. I don't know who that is either.

SPEAKER_00 25:49

I don't want I'm scared. I don't want any of those. I do think like it's really interesting the people that like live stream all the time and they are like those kind of people. Like those clips that come out are insane of their they're like 24-7 just streaming all the time. And they always have like the TTS in the background, which are saying like the craziest things are out in public and they're just doing wild shit.

SPEAKER_01 26:08

I think it's kind of cool, honestly.

SPEAKER_00 26:11

I it's entertaining. It's entertaining, but I think like sometimes they're abusive to people. Like in public, they're super loud, they're abusive to like or abusive, maybe is like kind of a crazy word to say, but like they're really disruptive to like servers, they're mean, they're rude, that Covet girl. It's like a micro community that they're all they do link up and do that stuff together. I think that is interesting.

SPEAKER_01 26:33

And then it's like I couldn't I couldn't imagine watching it live. That just seems like a lot. Well, I watched some of the things. I watched the clip, I'll see like a 30-second clip and something cool.

SPEAKER_00 26:40

But then I go down the rabbit hole because I'm like, who is this person and where is this clip coming from? And it's like 28 parts. And that, but I that's how I found those like Brie and all those people was because like they were on what is it, kick, the the green, yeah, it was kick. And it was like I had never heard of her, no shade, until she kidnapped her kid. Allegedly, I don't know, they're in court right now. That's crazy, and took them out of state lines, and she was 24-7 streaming. It insane. There's like six different angels from like six different influencers all on kick streaming, and the police are showing up. They're at no, literally, they're at like a content house. There's all of these things, there's clips on clips on clips, and I was like, Whoa.

SPEAKER_01 27:20

That's an American job, baby.

SPEAKER_00 27:22

Or I started watching the Messi Modge one where Kennedy Dior was on. Like, I had never watched the season one, but then me and Alyssa were watching because we were like, we'd watch Kennedy Dior, who had like a small business at the time. It was called Barbie Palace, and she got invited to this show, and I had no idea what the show was about. So I was like super excited because I'm I'm like, it's a 24-hour stream. Like, she's funny, like, she really is funny. I knew that people were gonna be dramatic with her because she's a tea girl and she just gives, like, I love her. Like, well, she gave there's no, because I think actually the controversy is all people being transphobic. I that's something I will stand on. They're so mean to her. There was she called somebody out on her birthday because they called her a he and it was supposedly a fan that she allowed at her birthday party, and then there's all these people that were making like clips of her being like, You shouldn't have, like, you shouldn't have popped off and kicked her out. You're a fan, you called her a man. Um, she gets invited to the Messi Ma show, and it was a bunch of people that were either you really liked her or you were transphobic and you were just calling her like he and on all this crazy stuff on the in the comments. So she goes, and it was like my first time ever watching a 24-hour stream where they were changing, like but there were so many cameras going. They were changing back and forth, back and forth.

SPEAKER_03 28:29

And I think live switching, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:31

Well, it was on well, it was on they had like it was in a house, so like they would be in different rooms at the house, and it would just like switch screen. It would for us, it was one, but like, and they weren't allowed to live stream, so she was uh like a security cam kind of yes, and then sometimes there was like a camera guy that was following them around for like they were supposed to do challenges, but it they there were so many fights that they didn't get to do any of their challenges. Um, and I think that's what I didn't realize about the what that was. It was going to be a bunch of people just tussling, and they had on the screen ready, like the first night that they got there, they were like, Okay, we're gonna test out the blurring effect. They had a cloud that would go over it, and you could hear people like you just hear a bunch of thumping.

SPEAKER_01 29:09

I know, but then what's the point if you can't watch those things?

SPEAKER_00 29:11

Well, because the show Messy Modge said if you subscribe to my YouTube or whatever it was, you get to see the uncensored fights. They haven't gone up yet, and it's been like a year and a half since the show was filmed. Oh, those aren't going up. I don't know. Well, and I also wonder because at some point people have the whole legal stuff. Yeah, they could be like, but I'm sure they signed something, but then people were saying it's just messy. And I didn't know that was like my introduction into those like live stream 24-hour house content things. Because people did have a bunch of like they were they were allowed to like when Kennedy would go live, she was like filming getting ready, or like they'd film a lot of TikToks, and so like obviously people are getting a lot of other people and like collabing and all of these things are probably also like growing from it, but it was so I mean I think that one's messy because his name's Messy Maj, but I had never seen something like that until last year. I was like, people do this. Oh, and then I was just watching one the other day because I was sick and I was at home and it was somebody's it was like 2K and some guy that didn't know Shade had never heard of before, and they had gotten like two or three yachts in Miami, and I was like, This is gonna be one of those nights, like with Ash, do you remember Ash Travino vibes? Oh, this is I'm trying to think. It was like one of those when it was happening, if you missed it, there was 35 clips and they had like millions of views on them, and it'd be like, Oh, so I was like, I'm gonna watch this because it's gonna be one of those nights, and like one person's live was shut down, and then there'd be like other because like they were walking around the boats, and it was just like people partying because it was somebody's birthday, but like they have like a ring lights sitting in front of them this far away with like three lights blasting on you, and it's like just people in every corner of the boat doing that, like they're on live stream, partying and dancing, only like singing to the camera, like not talking to anybody else around them. Like, this is so interesting. Cause like I understand recording, it would be weird to work on the boat and just watch them all partying while being kind of near each other and interacting, but only interacting for like 30 seconds and then going back to their live stream and being like chat blah blah blah, and they're battling, they're like on the yacht battling on TikTok live, and I'm like, what? So it's interesting. A witchy content house.

SPEAKER_01 31:21

You always get surprised by this. I never get surprised by this. I think it's because you've seen it. I'm like, I'm like, what? No, dude. We were talking about this at work. We were like, that's America, dude. It is interesting, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:31

I think that's like, yeah. I'm putting this out there. Somebody put me on Traitors or something. I want to go on one of those shows. Like uh I feel like that would be fine. I've been watching Traitors or the Mole.

SPEAKER_01 31:42

Yeah. Do you like that show? Traitors is good.

SPEAKER_00 31:46

Yeah, I think that one's easier than the mole, because well, not easier, but I think it's easier to like follow than the mole.

SPEAKER_01 31:51

It kind of looks kind of looks weird. Every time I see it, it looks ridiculous.

SPEAKER_00 31:54

Well, the the costumes and stuff get you, you're like, what's happening on screen? But like the the gameplay, because I think like Big Brother is too much physical activity and it's a long three months, and the 24-hour stream of it all would be too much. I don't know. But I feel like I could be one of those people on one of those shows that like there's always so many people that make it close to the end because they're not a threat and they just ride it out for a long time. I think I would be good at that.

SPEAKER_01 32:17

I think you'd be good at a lot of things.

SPEAKER_00 32:19

Let me in.

SPEAKER_01 32:20

I would love to see it.

SPEAKER_00 32:21

Like, imagine I'm on one of those random because I don't I think like I would give enough like dramatics to like whenever they would make me do physical things, I'd be like, you're fucking like all of that would be too much. Or I would have a lot to say in the behind the scenes, like when you sit down and do your confessional, oh I'm just yapping.

SPEAKER_03 32:38

That's also good TV.

SPEAKER_00 32:40

The yapping, yeah. I think that'd be good. I think you'd be good in a show like that because you would be somebody who would stir the pot, blow it up, and then step back and be like in the corner drinking kombucha. Oh yeah. No, but he would he would be like, Oh my god, did you hear that? Blah blah blah said blah blah blah. And he would say it to them behind, like, and so then they would bring it up and because they're because I just I just do that. I think that'd be really good. I don't know, somebody hit up one of those shows. We got an email like two years ago being on Do You Wanna Be on Naked and Afraid? We think it was like Wait, what? Yeah, it was like the. No, well, that was a different one. Oh yeah, that one never made it out. They don't they that show never made it out. They were interviewing me, Paulina, and a few other people.

SPEAKER_01 33:22

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:23

They were trying to make like a which they get you on Naked and Afraid, or what was the one called? It's it's like Survivor, not Survivor, it's like a survivor type show. Um, but you're it's like where people can steal other people's stuff. It's I don't think that Survivor, they do that. Um, but I had I'd I was like they were like, I think that your knowledge of plants, and we're placing this one in the islands, and we would really like to like that's your vibe. And we're like, I was like, I'm promising you I'm not fighting for food and water. Like, that is not my vibe. I'm not sleeping outside like that. You have me fucked, I'm not doing that. Like, as much as it'd be fun to talk about like the plants and the medicinal world, no. And I remember calling my dad, and he was like, No, because of that one, the women are like really preyed on because it's like you have to use a physical ability to like protect the stuff that you have, and a lot of times our camps get trashed by the guys, and they can just like fuck the women up. And I'm like, no, I'm good on that. But I'm like, why do shows reach out for that kind of thing? Like, let me on your fun show, please. Yeah, you know, not I'm outside fighting for actual food and life and and shelter, I'm building it with my hands. I don't know what is the fun ones. I think Big Brother is fun, but it is just very low.

SPEAKER_01 34:27

The fold?

SPEAKER_00 34:28

What's that?

SPEAKER_01 34:29

I tell you, I think I told Miles about this show a while ago. It's just comedians playing poker. Oh it's called The Fold. I watch every episode of that, it's so fucking good.

SPEAKER_00 34:37

See, see, I can't. You would love that. I just can't.

SPEAKER_01 34:39

But they might even front you like 300 bucks and you just play.

SPEAKER_00 34:43

You'd be surprised either, you think?

SPEAKER_01 34:45

Yeah. Maybe if I learned, but if I yeah, if I fucking taught you. But they're so funny.

SPEAKER_03 34:51

Do you think uh Stas could bluff though?

SPEAKER_00 34:53

I'm really bad at lying. That's why it sucks for I think like to be, I think it'd be funny.

SPEAKER_01 34:57

You don't have to. There's strategies for like there's strategies for like pretty women to play poker. There's actual strategies. Like Daniel Negrani taught his ex-girlfriend like um a poker strategy because she was like a l a small like Asian girl. And he like literally told her how to like take advantage of other people trying to like overbet you and try to bluff you all the time.

SPEAKER_00 35:21

I feel like that's I have to do like some psychological work before I go into something like that.

SPEAKER_01 35:25

It's really not. Honestly, the more I've been playing, the I think that it's less psychological, and it is it's less of a numbers game as well. It's kind of more about situations. Um and I mean I guess because I'm since I play mostly in the my same big uh your friend group friend group with the same social circle. I kind of know people's styles and the expectations.

SPEAKER_00 35:51

Well, and you're good at telling if people are lying, you're good at like weeding bullshit out.

SPEAKER_01 35:55

There yeah. There so far. I haven't lost still a bunch of money yet. But then there's also advantages where like when I went to a game, I played a game in Chicago when I was there visiting and no one knew me. Yeah. You have advantages there too, where like no one knows what kind of player you are. Yeah. I had a good night that night, too. Yeah, you really did have a good play. But um you can be good at poker, man. Give yourself some.

SPEAKER_00 36:18

I don't like to like again, I don't like to play with my money like that. I'm great. I prefer to like work really hard and put it in the bank.

SPEAKER_01 36:25

I know, I'm the same way. I'm the same way.

SPEAKER_00 36:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:29

Poker for me is just fun. You go in with a hundred dollars.

SPEAKER_00 36:33

The circle.

SPEAKER_01 36:35

Yeah, good luck getting on something like that.

SPEAKER_00 36:37

I know, because there's so many people on there. Something like that.

SPEAKER_03 36:40

You have clout though. You have to give yourself credit.

SPEAKER_00 36:42

Yeah, but do they? I don't think that they have people with clout on the show.

SPEAKER_01 36:45

Oh, do they not? No, I don't think so.

SPEAKER_00 36:47

I don't have clout like that. I don't think.

SPEAKER_01 36:49

Also, you might not be dumb enough.

SPEAKER_00 36:51

Hello? You're calling people dumb? That's new.

SPEAKER_01 36:53

Yeah, a lot of the people who get on those shows, I'm like, how are you even getting through society? Like, how are you not homeless? A lot of the people on the TV shows, I'm like, I don't even know like how they're finding some of these people sometimes.

SPEAKER_00 37:06

Well, maybe that's why they like because they're they're entertaining. They're you know, like they give, they give drama, they give, you know.

SPEAKER_01 37:12

Like, oh, like love is blind.

SPEAKER_00 37:13

Like some of the guys on Love is Blind, and some of some of the people on that show are just like they're it's insane work. It's insane work.

SPEAKER_01 37:21

Anyone who goes on that show is crazy, guy or girl. I know, I know it's popular to like bash on the guys. Guy or girl, you're a psychopath.

SPEAKER_00 37:27

No, now it is not blind, and they're gonna come out and be like, wow, I hate you, look ugly, you're not my normal type, you're all of this crazy stuff.

SPEAKER_01 37:34

And if you're a girl, are you really that naive that one of these guys is your soulmate that's gonna be on this fucking show?

SPEAKER_00 37:40

And they're they're so shady. They always come out and they're like, oh, well, the recent there's I mean, there's so much with the recent guys, but I feel like they come out and either they have nothing to their name, they are bad people, they come out and people have like allegations against them. They come out and say, Well, you're not my type. The guy that recently was like, Oh, she's a doctor. He's like, Oh, I think I'm like more into the type. Did you see that?

SPEAKER_03 38:02

I guess that oh that you guys fully cut, are you fully caught up?

SPEAKER_00 38:05

I haven't watched the newest. I saw the clips of him saying that, but I'm like almost there. He she shows her house. It's a beautiful home. I saw that. It's a beautiful home. He what does he have? No shade. I'd be like, in the things, what is your 401k like? Like, what is your say what's happening in your family life? What do you have you moved a lot recently? What's the last time you got fired and why? What would your last girlfriend say about you? No one's asking these things. Meanwhile, Chris is like, she's a doctor, and he's like, Oh, I really wanted to be with someone who goes to Pilates every day. First off, are you gonna pay for Pilates every day, Chris? Second, we've seen you at the beach, and we also saw her, she was fit. Chris, please don't he's like, I wanna I want somebody that goes to Pilates every day. Meanwhile, she's a surgeon.

SPEAKER_03 38:48

She was up front about that.

SPEAKER_00 38:49

Well, and she's got a good body too. Like, outside of that, like it's just dude, if he I think he just wanted a reason for her to break up with him so he could try somebody else, but then that didn't work.

SPEAKER_03 38:59

Probably like Yeah, I I kind of talk about it.

SPEAKER_00 39:04

Yeah, we okay.

SPEAKER_01 39:05

Everyone on that show is insane. Yeah, it is insane. I don't care.

SPEAKER_00 39:08

It's insane. I think the first season you could in the first season is also the best season. I think like it's the best. But I think that's the only time you could say, like, maybe we're gonna test this out on the love is blind, but we've seen season after season after season where they meet the person and immediately do a 180.

SPEAKER_03 39:20

I think it's an influencer incubator now. It is, they know that.

SPEAKER_00 39:23

I think they're like, Oh, well, I'm gonna go and promote my show. Yeah, or promote myself.

SPEAKER_01 39:27

I was gonna say I should go, but I can't go on. I'm ready to take in. But I could go on and promote like. Well, some people go on and lie.

SPEAKER_00 39:33

Yeah, that's happened before where they're like, well, it's not necessarily love is blind, but people have gone on those dating type shows and they're like, this person is in a relationship before and after, but they just go to promote their businesses. That's insane.

SPEAKER_01 39:45

That's what I'm saying. The They don't care about it. Everyone there is insane.

SPEAKER_00 39:48

Yeah. They don't want to find it.

SPEAKER_01 39:50

Like, even if you're think you're going in good faith, you're insane. Like you actually think your future wife or husband's on that show, like you're fucking crazy. Yeah, like one or two of them are still together.

SPEAKER_00 40:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:02

And like whatever season they're on, like 10. I know. You're in crazy. Dude, it's just a fucking drama. It's a TV show.

SPEAKER_03 40:12

They do. I respect the producers for that because they're like, it's messy.

SPEAKER_01 40:16

And then they go, it's funny because they everyone's in everyone falls in love in the pods, and then they fall in love on their fucking honeymoon. And they don't fall in love. It's so easy to get along with somebody when you're at a fucking resort and people are bringing you your food and all you have to worry about is going to the fucking pool. And then I I love, as soon as they go back to their to check out the person's like house, like reality sets in, and they're like, Oh my god, you are like a nasty person. Like you live in squalor. And then like they start asking like real questions. They're like, like, you know, what's your what's your job again? Like, what do you do?

SPEAKER_00 40:53

How long have you been? And then their family talks to them. The guy, the lawyer dad that talking to that guy that was like clearly lying about everything. He's like, I'm a day trader. Dylan was like, What?

SPEAKER_01 41:02

Yeah, he he he he said he was a day trader, which is extremely like high risk, volatile. No, almost no one's ever. Well, didn't he say he was doing it in like Australia? Off of day trading trading unless they have insider trader knowledge. Insider knowledge.

SPEAKER_00 41:18

But then he said he works at a casino.

SPEAKER_01 41:19

And then he goes, he's not even trading stocks. He's a forex trader, allegedly. That's what he says. He's trading the US Australian currencies, which is like nobody, you know, over you might make money off of that off of a few trades, but over a long period of time, you're not going to make money. You're going to lose.

SPEAKER_00 41:39

Well, but it doesn't make sense either because I know he said when he was in another country, he was like, Oh, I was like working as a fisher, like doc guy, and then I was working in a casino, and then I was doing like child soccer or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 41:49

I'm like, But then I also go, I also, you know, I have a little criticism for the women because I go, hey, you fell for it. Like, how I because I don't think they talk about I can see through these people within like five minutes. Like you meet them, you meet, you meet people you come across in life, and you can tell in like five minutes. You're like, oh god, this guy is. You're lying. Yeah. But then like these fucking a lot of the people will fucking fall for it. I think didn't like her fucking dad say like she's bad at picking people? It's kind of like at some point there's some mechanics.

SPEAKER_00 42:19

Well daddy's like, I'm not worried about this because I'm not gonna get married, or it's gonna he's a lawyer, he's like working on it.

SPEAKER_01 42:23

If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

SPEAKER_00 42:26

Yeah, but I also think that people probably agree to it because it's like, well, we'll be on the show. I'm not gonna get married, we're fine. Like, it's just gonna be a fun thing that I did.

SPEAKER_01 42:33

But that's that doesn't sound fun, that's just not like you're in.

SPEAKER_00 42:36

But then you're on, but if they want to be an influencer, they're on the show. They get all these followers, they get eyes, they're doing interviews, they get to go back every year for the reunion. Like, it's a thing. Speaking of love, do we have any unhinged love advice? Yeah, we do.

SPEAKER_01 42:51

Ah, I love you. Can you someone give me some advice on how to love me? Cope with it.

SPEAKER_00 42:59

So much. There's too much. There's too much love.

SPEAKER_03 43:02

Alright, unhinged love spell advice. Oh this one's called Third Date Planned, but he's giving a platonic vibe. So don't go. I've been on two dates with a guy, and he's respectful. Good looking, tall, sociable, a little nerdy, and shy. Totally my type. I've had a lot of fun getting to know him, and I could see myself in a long-term relationship with him if it comes to it. We're both students in our final year of university, so I feel like now isn't a bad time for a relationship. Our first date was a coffee date, and we ended up going for a walk afterwards, and it lasted four hours in total.

SPEAKER_04 43:38

Cute.

SPEAKER_03 43:38

Nothing much happened, but we really got along and have a lot in common. He didn't flirt with me much or touch me at all, but he called me cute once, which was nice.

SPEAKER_01 43:47

Our second hours? If I was around you for four hours and I only touched you once, I'd fucking lose my mind. If I was around you for four hours.

SPEAKER_00 44:00

It's not like you look beautiful today, anything.

SPEAKER_02 44:02

Sorry, Miles.

SPEAKER_03 44:02

That's all good. It's all good. Our second date was a relaxed dinner, and we ended up going for a drink afterwards. Cute. We split the dinner bill, but he bought me one drink. Again, we had a lot to talk about, and our date lasted six hours. The conversations were definitely deeper this time. He didn't flirt much, but we ended up at his place. He complimented my outfit and we had a nice hug at the end, which he initiated.

unknown 44:26

Sorry.

SPEAKER_03 44:26

That's gonna be a good one. Wait, but you went to his place? I would be like, well anyways. We've been texting regularly every few hours, and I asked if he wanted to do something, and he agreed. So we're going to a museum next week.

SPEAKER_00 44:37

Cute.

SPEAKER_03 44:38

He hasn't really flirted with me or touched me much, but maybe that's because he feels shy around me. I haven't initiated any flirting either, but I'm also a bit shy. I was wondering how to escalate things to a bit more flirty on our next date to see if he's actually interested in me or not. Sorry, I almost started. But surely he's in but surely he is into me if he's agreed to see me again. I'm definitely not looking for things to move super quickly, but would like to transition from a sort of platonic hating now to more of a romantic vibe. Basically just wondering how to initiate more flirting and maybe a kiss or a handhold on the next date.

SPEAKER_00 45:16

I this isn't even we're not doing spell advice on this because I'm not doing spell advice. This is normal life advice.

SPEAKER_01 45:21

I feel like they're British. She said we're in our last year of university.

SPEAKER_00 45:24

Here's the thing.

SPEAKER_01 45:25

Which changes everything.

SPEAKER_00 45:27

Does it? No. I think like, okay, you could the shy aspect maybe could be one thing, but I feel like even shy people, if they like you, they're gonna flirt with you. Like flirting, people have like a flirtation conversation. Some people are just flirty vibes. Maybe even if he's bad at it, like there could be a thing. By this the second date, I'm not I'm also like I I don't have any problem. Well, I don't know how to say this, like without sounding like a brat. I'm not we're not splitting anything on the first or second date, especially we're grown. Maybe if you're like early 18, 19, 20, you have no money, you're trying to split. I'm just they are. Oh, wait, you're right.

SPEAKER_01 46:03

It can be very difficult.

SPEAKER_00 46:06

You've gotta, you know. But like we're not, yeah, we're not doing this. Maybe if it's later on, you guys are gone into but it sounded like they went to she said relax dinner, and then he got me a drink. I'm confused.

SPEAKER_01 46:17

Sister. Maybe he's just not a physical touch person.

SPEAKER_00 46:20

I know, but it's just worried.

SPEAKER_01 46:22

He doesn't, I feel like like uh a lot of guys get a little worried.

SPEAKER_00 46:27

Yes. First day, but like a handhold, there's nothing like overly physical about holding someone's hand and like giving their hand a little like rub on the we're on our second date, clearly we like each other. Then you you don't have to be making. I feel like also there's it's respectable to be able to not expect him to be like trying to you both kissing each other, whatever. But especially because they are young, they're what 20?

SPEAKER_01 46:49

22, 21.

SPEAKER_00 46:51

Max. I mean, I would be straight up. I would be like, before we meet up, I just want to make sure that we're on the same page. Like, I really like you, and I won't I'm not looking to just be making friends with people right now. And if we are on a friend type thing, maybe we should just like meet up during the day and like that be known. You can always like if you open the door for people, I wouldn't like necessarily try to pull out him flirting with you or be physical unless you then have had the conversation. I really like you. I think I would like to date you if this moves forward and we want to do that. Like, let's get out of that zone. But just suss the vibe out first because maybe he could be anxious. But I feel like even anxious people, especially like men, they're gonna like try to touch you a little bit, like a brush of the hair, a little while you're walking through the door, hand on the little back. You know, Dylan is a physical touch person, so maybe that's like I don't know. I'm like, get the f off me. But like it, I feel like it is will be known. Like, it's and if they're not making it known, you let it make you let it be known. Maybe you try initiating touch first, and it doesn't have to be big, just initiating touch first and see how he reacts. But if you're already texting about the third date, I would be open. I think she should send him a cute selfie and see what happens. That's true. What is he but then yeah, because wait, he only said, Oh, you look cute. Yeah, suss it out. I need more than that. Suss it out. Yeah, send it out. What do you think of my outfit today? No, actually, don't ask. Just send something and then see what he says. And if he's like, Oh, hope you're having a good, he has nothing. If he doesn't say anything about your looks, he's just like, hope your day was good, friend zone. Also, I think if he's really interested and he's shy, he'll still find because I feel like, yeah, no, he'll find a way out. He would he would make it clear. There's no spell advice. Because I'm not, especially early on, don't make them like fall in love with you and it's not genuine first. If you need confidence, you can do confidence spells later. What do you think?

SPEAKER_01 48:38

I don't know. Probably just communicate. Kiss me, bro. Hello?

SPEAKER_00 48:44

But imagine he says no. He won't. Yeah, that's true. But what if he's not into it?

SPEAKER_03 48:49

I feel like he's really scared. I feel like he's a really scared guy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:52

Scaredy?

unknown 48:53

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 48:53

That's sad.

SPEAKER_03 48:54

Well, he can do it.

SPEAKER_00 48:55

You can he can. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 48:56

The third date has happened. We want you to write back to the phone. I know. Let us know what happened to know.

SPEAKER_00 49:01

And also let him. He can pay for your do you don't you don't have to go to expensive places, but he can pay first and second. How does that happen? You and how would you say that to somebody? Can you split this with me?

SPEAKER_03 49:13

She might have offered and he might have just not said no. Do not offer just see what happens.

SPEAKER_00 49:17

Yeah. Sit back when that check comes. Especially because I don't think if in Europe, y'all don't have to tip. So just sit back.

SPEAKER_01 49:26

We're just making up a story about that they're in Europe. They're in like Ohio or something.

SPEAKER_00 49:33

No, yeah. I don't know, sister. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01 49:35

Right right into a podcast and ask because you just tell him all this stuff, I feel like.

SPEAKER_00 49:40

They want advice. Why are you like this?

SPEAKER_01 49:42

Oh yeah, I don't know. I would just we're both like upfront people. I feel like you are both.

SPEAKER_00 49:46

We are really two on front. I feel like it's like, what are you talking about?

SPEAKER_01 49:50

You know? And then if they say no, then it's like, okay, well.

SPEAKER_03 49:52

I want to kind of throw in some idea here. I feel like if they're both shy, it might be hard.

SPEAKER_00 49:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 50:00

Because it sounds like she's waiting for her first move and she's not the type of girl to be like, I'll just make it fucking happen. I don't care. And he's probably worried about being polite and well, because she's shy, so he's like feeling tension of like And he doesn't probably want to be pushy.

SPEAKER_00 50:13

If he's if we're giving shy route, he doesn't want to be pushy and weird.

SPEAKER_03 50:16

Yeah. Seen as a creep. So it sounds like there's a misread situation.

SPEAKER_00 50:19

But then also that's why I feel like if you're nervous to say anything, then that's why the text, if you're texting about the next date, then text it. Hey, I just wanted to suss out the vibes, feel out where we're at. I've I've enjoyed my last two dates with you. You being in his house and he gave you a hug is crazy.

SPEAKER_03 50:36

I think they both need to nut up or shut up, honestly.

SPEAKER_00 50:39

Yeah, no, literally. Yeah. Hey.

SPEAKER_01 50:41

Wait, no, wait. You have to have an oil for this or something.

SPEAKER_00 50:44

It depends on the vibe that you want. Give a hug and like drop. You don't have to drop it, you just put them on and go. You drop it on the other person. You don't need to do that.

SPEAKER_03 50:53

You want to lock them in, take a jacket. Make it smell like you.

SPEAKER_00 50:56

Yeah, I know, but like, I mean, you can, but you're I mean I'll do that to you sometimes.

SPEAKER_01 51:01

Like I'm hugging you on the city. Like, get off.

SPEAKER_00 51:03

No, my pillow smelled like you're cologne the other night, and I was like, he's so annoying.

SPEAKER_01 51:05

I didn't do that.

SPEAKER_03 51:06

You have some kombucha in a spray bottle and just your pillow smelled like my cologne?

SPEAKER_00 51:12

You I didn't know it was the night that I washed my sheets too. I was like, he's so annoying.

SPEAKER_01 51:17

I didn't do that.

SPEAKER_00 51:18

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 51:20

You did that. You must have done that.

SPEAKER_00 51:22

Why would I spray your cologne on my cologne? You were right next to me. We do live together. So unfortunately, we'll see how let us know what's the next tea. Like, please. I do like you in England. No, yeah. I was like, I think I am too upfront because I feel like we weren't even dating or really talking like the first time we hung out. And I was like, why is he sitting on the couch away from me? And now I think I tried to take half him. This is so embarrassing. I was like, he he asked me to cut his hair or something. And I was like, oh yeah, I can I could get you a haircut. Why I can get you a haircut? Why you thought I don't know how this ended up playing? I did a good job. I did a good job. But I was like, oh well, he can't get the your hair all over. Like we were inside. I was like trying to get him to take his shirt off because I wanted to see. And he we left his shirt on. I was like, what the hell? And then we watched a movie like hours later. And I the way that my room was set up, I had like a really big room, and I had like a futon at the edge of my bed, and he was sitting on the futon instead of sitting with me on my bed. I was like, What the f like what a friend was there too? She was. We had a foreign exchange student that was staying at our house. We could have just been hanging out on, I don't know. In my mind, I was like, what is he doing? But that's how straightforward I am. I'm like, what do you mean? Take your shirt off. Literally, like, um I was a minor and you were so we were both seniors in high school.

SPEAKER_01 52:42

I was 17 and you were an adult. Oh my god, I took advantage.

SPEAKER_00 52:45

We were both in high school.

SPEAKER_01 52:47

I was probably scared.

SPEAKER_00 52:48

Right. Mm-hmm. Terrified.

SPEAKER_01 52:50

She hates when I bring that up.

SPEAKER_00 52:52

Because you make me sound like some sort of creep. Predator, predatorizing on you.

SPEAKER_01 53:00

I love you.

SPEAKER_03 53:02

Vibe changed after asking me to be his Valentine. I've been dating a guy I met on Hinge for about seven weeks. The connection has been very strong emotionally and physically. Although we're not exclusive, he's expressed serious interest in me. Our dates usually are very long. We've had future-oriented conversations, said very sweet things to each other, and we're clearly really into each other. We've tried to slow things down because the connection escalated quickly, but it hasn't been easy. On our most recent date, he asked me to be his Valentine. The issue came up the next day. While texting normally, he suddenly asked if the vibes had changed on my end. I was confused since I felt things were going well. On the date, he mentioned I seemed a bit off, which I didn't agree with, but I explained I was stressed about from work and my pick.

SPEAKER_00 53:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 53:50

After his text, I tried to call to clarify, but he was busy and didn't call back. I'm an anxious person and struggle when I can't reach someone. He continued responding to texts but ignored my calls. I still want to talk through it, and I ended up spiraling with too many texts and calls. Yeah. No, because then it's too much. We had plans to meet the next day, but he didn't respond all day despite my attempts to reach him. I eventually assumed he didn't want to see me anymore and sent a long text apologizing and explaining myself. No later responded saying that he froze because he felt overwhelmed and didn't know how to respond responsibly. He said he cares deeply about me, but isn't sure he can give me the reassurance, availability, or clarity I deserve right now.

SPEAKER_00 54:36

You know.

SPEAKER_03 54:37

He said he doesn't want to keep me in a painful limbo. I can't help but feel like I ruined things, but I also struggle with how someone who cares about me could go quiet while I was clear clearly distressed. Yeah. Is there something that's fixable? At what point do you walk away?

SPEAKER_00 54:55

I would just walk away because here's the thing you guys have two different attachment styles. And if somebody he said it straightforward. If he's not gonna get you would reassure me to the end of times, you'd be annoyed, but you would reassure me. You'd be like, you're fine, it needs to be calm the fuck down. Like if I'm on one, he's gonna reassure me. And that was like at any point, whether you know you're doing it or not, like you do just either are like the type to equip with certain or you're the type that either is equipped to deal with certain things or is not. And I feel like he straight up said that he's not gonna be giving reassurance, he was overwhelmed and whatever. And while you can always deal with your own attachment styles, and I think in the future, be like, I don't need to call right now. Maybe text your friends. You're like, if you feel like you need to get some things out, call your friends and like vent to them because they're gonna be the ones that can hear it over and over and over again. But sometimes a man or boy or whomever, even a girl at the beginning stages of your relationship, it is a lot to like deal with like an onslaught of things, and like in some people's minds, if the you he asked you a question, you said he I'm fine, you're fine, we're good. He's like, Okay, well, we're chill. I said what I need to say, you said we're fine. It's water over the bridge, we're under the bridge. Um, but it does suck, but I do think also I don't understand that let's go back to the beginning. I asked you to be my Valentine's, but we're not exclusive. What the fuck does that mean? You know my Valentine for one day, but then we're not exclusive. No. What does that mean? No, I'm not playing with him. Don't play with him either. It does suck. I would say in the future, if somebody asks you a straightforward question, they might just be more straightforward because I feel like Dylan's that way.

SPEAKER_01 56:23

Like, yeah, most of the guys I know are like that.

SPEAKER_00 56:26

They're like, let me check in.

SPEAKER_01 56:27

He checked in, and then like most of the guys I know, if they've been talking to a girl for like seven weeks, they're not trying to deal with a flood of emotions.

SPEAKER_00 56:38

Well, and I feel like they just check out.

SPEAKER_01 56:40

They're like, dude, I can't do this every day for the rest of my life.

SPEAKER_00 56:43

It's not every day. Or I mean, if I had a flood of emotion every day for the rest of your life, you would deal with it. But you did it didn't, it's not at the beginning. It's once you've had the can be.

SPEAKER_01 56:52

But most guys, you gotta understand, most guys when they're young, they're not thinking about that. They're just thinking, like, oh, dude, she's gonna be like this. I'm I'm not doing this.

SPEAKER_00 56:59

Yeah. But also, I think he framed it well saying, like, I'm not sure if I can give you the reassurance you need. And while I feel like sometimes it's okay to ask for reassurance, I think like if it's the same thing over and over, it can be like cumbersome. Um, and I think that's where it's like talking with your friends or family first, can get some of that, like not riff-raff, but some of that emotion that's like weighing on you first out, and they can see it from a different perspective without having to put that on another person because he's already said, like, oh, well, we're cool. So I do also think like self-worth or self-work were I can't do it. Self-worth work is good because then like you know what's good, you know your attachment styles, like you're okay. Well, I've explained myself, and you just sit in your explanation, you're fine, and you don't over-explain and overdo and overextend. You just like you're done. But I feel like that also comes with time getting to know yourself better. I think this is a good learning lesson for both him and you. One, if somebody asks you to be their Valentine, you're locked in. And if he wants to be weird about it, no.

SPEAKER_03 58:00

Um also ask, like, so this means we're exclusive, right?

SPEAKER_00 58:04

That's what that means. Yeah, hello?

SPEAKER_03 58:06

Well, just to clarify, so they know what they did. That's all I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00 58:10

I'm sorry, that sucks. That's pretty serious. Yeah, and then how do you go back from that later? He still asked me to be my Valentine's now. And we're engaged. You know? As he showed, I was literally like, you're not gonna ask? What's the T? I think that was like in January. I was like, You haven't asked me to be your Valentine's. He's like, it's not even February yet.

SPEAKER_03 58:35

Gigi did that to me. She's like, You didn't ask Molly. When did you it was like late January? I was like, it's this time.

SPEAKER_01 58:43

I feel like I need to ask now for like next year. You have to ask a little closer.

SPEAKER_03 58:48

I was like, is there competition? Is someone else gonna ask? You never on like February 15th.

SPEAKER_01 58:53

I need to ask for like next year. Because they're already asking you, like, why haven't you asked?

SPEAKER_00 58:58

Why haven't you asked? What's going on?

SPEAKER_01 58:59

I'll just get ahead of this.

SPEAKER_00 59:02

And you know what? There was something like there's no shade. I saw this video, there's like this lady who's in a more traditional relationship. She was talking about how she doesn't get her husband anything for Valentine's Day, and we kind of talked about that because he like got me a really huh? Her name's can't remember. Yeah, Tommy. But Dylan got me like a really nice new ring, and we went to dinner and everything, and I really didn't get him anything other than my love. Um, babe.

SPEAKER_01 59:26

I don't ask for anything.

SPEAKER_00 59:27

And so I'm like, oops.

SPEAKER_01 59:29

Literally, the only thing I've asked you is that you try my kombucha. That's all. I tried it on the book. That's all I've asked.

SPEAKER_00 59:34

He did. And you had some. I made your cookies. Yeah, thank you. But yeah, I don't, I'm like so glad that he doesn't expect me to do the same because I'd be like, I'm just trying to get you to do like weird stuff.

SPEAKER_01 59:44

I know. I'm like, I made this fermented tea. Will you drink it?

SPEAKER_00 59:50

You bring like random things to me and you're like, have this. I'm like, what is that? Like literally, what is that? Or he makes something weird and I'm like, oh my god. So it's trying to do it. I'm sorry, sister. Yeah, try to work on your attachment styles, and I mean that like kindly, but also don't over yo, if someone's not answering one or two texts, cut the cameras. I think in all things, cut the cameras. Because the flood of texts is a lot. Because also, think about it. What if he was at the gym? What if he's at work? What if he's in a meeting? You're like, whoa. And they get progressively more anxious. You know, I get it, but please step back.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:24

Wish you well. We wish you well.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:26

We do, and honestly, you'll find somebody that will reassure you. That's the thing. I do think like working on the different types of reassurement, like because if it's got the same thing over and over again.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:34

I know, it's so hard. I wish I knew the people who are asking. Because a lot of the times you just you'll find these people might be like 20 years old. Yeah. I'm just like, oh, dude, who cares? Like they'll find somebody. Yeah. I'm not worried.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:47

Like the guys I work with, they're all like the youngest one's like 20, and then they go up to like 25. And I'm like, dude, you'll figure it out.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:56

No, and you will.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:57

That's how it is for most people, right? Like it's a lot of trial hinge dating shit for a long time. And then you eventually meet the right person.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:07

Paulina found her man on a um dating uh site and they just got engaged.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:12

We love to see it. It works.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:13

Yeah, go ask her what she what she did.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:15

She and she went on a first date. This is what I want, and this is my expectations. And if you're not him, get out of the way. She would literally get out of the way for my husband and look what she found. Thank you. It works. Leg it out. Say what you need, what you're gonna expect and not.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:30

She was like wasting everyone's time.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:31

No, don't.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:32

Yours or theirs.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:33

Nope. And there's expectations set.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:37

With that, have high expectations for yourself and others. You can rise to them. If other people fall, that's okay. They just don't need to be around you.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:48

Be the best version of yourself.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:51

Strive to be.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:52

Strive to be.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:53

I don't think I'm my best version every day, but you strive to be.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:55

You're not?

SPEAKER_00 1:01:56

No.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:57

Really?

SPEAKER_00 1:01:58

No, I don't think so. Sometimes I'm confused. Where am I? Where is she?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:05

I'm pretty steady.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:06

Yeah, you're like, no, his emotional.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:08

I'm a bad version of myself most days. I'm steadily average.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:12

It's very but you know what you're gonna get though. It's every day Dylan's the solid. Dylan.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:18

I'm trying.

unknown 1:02:19

Beep.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:20

I love doing these. I don't get to grasp your full attention. That is such a lie.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:25

We go home and I'm just at here.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:27

You're always doing something. Well, you're always so distracted.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:30

I'm gonna start setting this up and just walking, leaving out the room. Bye, have fun. See you later.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:35

This is for Dylan. Do it, man.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:37

Yeah, these podcast episodes are just for Dylan.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:39

This is just my elaborate way to get one-on-one time with you. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:43

Well, I love you. Thank you for being here for episode 15.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:46

16.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:47

Sorry, for uh thank you for being here for episode 16.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:50

Thank you. It was great. I love doing these. I think the crowd likes me. My videos are like they have the best views. I think. My podcast episodes always get a ton of views.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:01

You want to pose for a thumbnail?

SPEAKER_01 1:03:03

Yeah, what should we do? Sip the kombucha? Go ahead.