Permission to Rest

When was the last time you truly rested—without guilt?

In this heartfelt episode of Beautiful Chaos, Tammy and Staci talk about the pressure to always be “on,” the weight of people-pleasing, and why giving yourself permission to rest might be the most powerful thing you can do.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Have you ever felt like if you slow down, like everything's just gonna fall apart every day?

SPEAKER_01 0:07

Every day. Like the second you sit down, your brain just starts listing all the things that you should be doing.

SPEAKER_02 0:14

Right. And or all the things you didn't do that you need to do, it's it's a whole thing. And even when your body is screaming for rest and you're feeling so exhausted, you just feel like you have to push through it anyway.

SPEAKER_01 0:27

Well, uh, part of that's because somewhere along the way, we we for sure, but we for sure. Probably women in general, but we started believing that being needed meant we have to be on all the time.

SPEAKER_02 0:40

Yeah, and like we're responsible for everything. Today we're talking about something we don't give ourselves enough of permission to rest. See, that was good. We can hit that one together because we both need that.

SPEAKER_01 0:54

We need it, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 0:56

It's a beautiful day.

SPEAKER_01 1:28

And I'm Tammy Ramsey. And today we're talking about a very important subject, especially when it comes to us. So we're gonna feel pretty guilty this entire podcast, but also just an important thing that comes when you are a woman, when you are busy, when you are a parent, a wife, any of those things, and that is per giving yourself permission to rest. And I think it's important that we talk about it as permission because we don't allow ourselves to rest normally the way, and when I say we, I'm gonna be consistently referring to us. Yes. Maybe it's gonna hit for you guys, maybe it doesn't. So if this doesn't exactly apply to you, you know, find your path through this podcast. But for us for sure, it would take permission. It does take permission daily, regularly, anytime. And we need to give ourselves permission to rest.

SPEAKER_02 2:24

It's and it's really hard to do that and not be guilty. So that's what we're gonna talk about this whole time. And and kind of what started this this is gonna be so, so authentic. Yeah, because I I well, you as well. We're both just always so busy, and we both are like juggling multiple things, community things. You've got a wedding, I had grandkids, we've got this podcast, like there's all these balls up in the air that we just feel like we're constantly juggling. And I hit my exhaustion on Saturday, my drop dead because I didn't rest, I didn't do those things, and it was beautiful chaos of life. All the grandkids for two spring breaks that I wish Boise and Pocatello would fall on the same spring break because that would make life easier, yeah. But but it doesn't. So when I got overwhelmed, all I could think about was I just need to go home and take a shower. And then I like to write poetry, that's kind of like this creative outlet. So I'm gonna share this poem with you, and you can also find it on Beautiful Um Chaos on Facebook. But I think this kind of tells tells it like it is for all stages of life. You can hopefully um what do you call relate to? Relate to. It's called Just a Moment to Rest. I wish I could just say no. Take a breath, move slow, slow my life, slow the time. Wouldn't that feel divine? I try so hard to please, to give, to show up with ease, to never let anyone down. Afraid they might look and frown. Oh, all I need is a shower, maybe a 20-minute nap to fill back with power and not feel like such a sap. I love my grandkids oh so much. I love my kids, they're every touch. I love to laugh and play all day and the work I do along the way, but some days whisper something true. I need a little time for you. A pause, a breath, a quiet space, a moment life won't try to chase, just time to rest, to simply be, to not hold up the world for me, to set it down if just for a while and come back stronger with a smile. Can you relate to all of that?

SPEAKER_01 4:50

Right?

SPEAKER_02 4:51

Yeah, like I mean, you know, when you're emotional about things, there's some beautiful things that come out of it. And so this for sure I feel like is is one of those because women are are caregivers naturally. Yeah. And I think that has a lot to do with let alone your people pleasers like us. We're we're people pleasers, but just being a caregiver as a whole.

SPEAKER_01 5:16

I think they they do go hand in hand though, because you do feel like caregiving is constantly trying to please the other person. You want to feed them the best meal and you want to, you know, prepare the best adventure, keep the house clean, and you uh at least for me, I feel like my people pleasing and my caregiving go hand in hand. But also when you get into like your um love languages, uh one of mine to receive is always words of affirmation because I think that the reason those all tie together is all I want, I don't I I want when I give you the meal that I feed you just to say it's a good meal. Like I like this food, I like what you made. I don't need any other kind of credit anywhere else. Like it, yeah, it's great if you make a meal for somebody, they do the dishes, but at the end of the day, I don't care if I have to do the dishes and make the meal, just want to be told like that was really good. Or wow, the house looks really clean, or wow, thanks for showing up, or it's definitely words of affirmation thing. And I think that comes with people pleasing and caregiving, and it all just intertwines, and somewhere in there, we have to remember to take care of ourselves.

SPEAKER_02 6:32

We do, because we give ourselves this invisible mental load all the time because that is that's our choice, that's our inner talk. That's like you said, our part of our love language, probably. Our identities are tied to being dependable, so we feel like if we're not providing whoever we're responsible for at that time, right, then we're we're failing somewhere. Yeah. So somewhere along the way, we confused being valuable with being constantly available. Can you relate to that?

SPEAKER_01 7:01

Well, that for sure, because that's where we all fail in the ability to say no.

SPEAKER_02 7:07

Yes, 100%.

SPEAKER_01 7:08

Because if we're always available, then we can always add that one more thing. And I think we put, you know, like you were talking about balancing all the plates. I think we put all these things on these plates and you're you're juggling them. And then somebody says, wait, you've already juggling 10. Can you juggle 11 plates? Absolutely, sure. But the problem becomes that not that if you took one plate out, would you still be able to juggle it? Is if that one plate came out, are all the plates gonna fall. Right.

SPEAKER_02 7:32

That's I think what makes the yeah, that is that mental load. Yeah, you're so right. That's a very good observation. Well, and I think one thing that we are experts in this topic.

SPEAKER_01 7:42

We are there's any topic we can handle well, I think this is gonna be it for sure.

SPEAKER_02 7:48

Not that we can do all of these things. We're gonna suggest that you do. These are things that we're researching, that it's like we should be doing these things. We know we should be doing these things. Exactly. But you get caught up, and it's like somebody hands you a toolbox, yeah, and you put it in the back of your car and you forget it's there. Right. Right? So you you know, you know, but you really forgot where that toolbox is, and so then you just keep suffering through whatever you're going.

SPEAKER_01 8:13

It's just like when you find like a um unhealthy doctor or an unhealthy um like coach, like uh physical trainer. Yeah, you know, and you and they're they know all the things that you should be doing, but they're not doing the things they should be doing because there's probably something else going on, and there's probably something else taking up that capacity that they should have. But it's it's that, and I think that you know, people can very easily what find us on the street and point that same finger and say, you say rest, and you say you need to take time and you need to make yourself a priority, but you're not doing it, and I see it in you every single day.

SPEAKER_02 8:53

That's right, and it's true, and we, you know, we say we're not we're not experts in this, no, the the cure for this, we're the victims of this. Um needing the permission, needing to give ourselves permission to rest. Yeah, and one thing my sister-in-law, who's a counselor, said to me once was what if you just knew that you had value because you are your existence is your value, and so I think I hold that in my mind on the times when I'm thinking I need to rest and reset, right? And it needs to be okay.

SPEAKER_01 9:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:34

So, and I would like to say, I've I have improved over the years because I used to, if Kevin would come home, I would constantly make sure I was up and doing things no matter what, I wouldn't let myself rest. And now I'm like, if I feel like I need rest, I will take a few minutes in the daytime and rest. And when he pulls in, I don't jump up and feel like, oh, I can't be sitting down. Because I'm like, no, I can.

SPEAKER_01 9:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:00

It's just I don't do it enough, right?

SPEAKER_01 10:02

Do you ever find yourself um always giving an explanation for your rest though? Uh yes. Because I do that. I'll give myself, I'll finally, I'm on a very um not consistent schedule right now. So there's usually about one day in the week where I kind of have to break down and I do nothing that day except slug on the couch for a while and then eventually get ready and I go to work. And I find myself always saying, Well, today I didn't do anything because I needed to just have one day where I just didn't do something because I have this and this and this and this going on this week. And I always have to make sure I audibly say that. Like I didn't do anything because of this, not just that I just rested because I rested.

SPEAKER_02 10:48

You know, I just did that the other day. I was like, I have to rest. You go to Costco, you go do the things, I'm just gonna stay home and just veg on the couch because I'm gonna be watching the baby this week. So I have to prepare for right, yeah. So you're right, we always have to have an explanation. So that's uh something to really be aware of so that we can stop doing that. Right. Because we don't need to explain ourselves. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 11:14

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:15

Ooh, so profound. See, see why we do these things? I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 11:18

You're eventually we'll help ourselves.

SPEAKER_02 11:20

We will, and that's eventually we will we'll come back and we'll be like, hey, we've been doing this every day. Well, and that's the thing. I think that all anything that we talk about that we share with you, it's we're not about perfection, it's about, hey, here's some tools, right? Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna share some tools, and and if if you want to utilize them occasionally, or if if one little thought is like, oh wow, well, I've been doing that as well, making those um giving explanations for those things, and I can't stop doing that. And I'm sure we do that because we're afraid of disappointing people, we're afraid of resting because we're afraid of disappointing someone. Right. I was always like, oh, if Kevin sees me resting, he's gonna think I am lazy.

SPEAKER_01 12:01

Well, and that goes into like the judgment. We think people are gonna judge us and say, Oh, well, you know, she didn't do anything today, or she, you know, didn't get XYZ done today, or usually she's so much busier, or she didn't show up to that meeting or this thing, and but behind the scenes is doing a hundred other things for whatever it is.

SPEAKER_02 12:19

Yeah, exactly. So we're always trying to avoid judgment or conflict, and um we say yes when we mean no.

SPEAKER_01 12:27

That's a big one, and I think that's a big one for all of us because and also, and I'm gonna tie this into a little bit of parenting. Sometimes with parenting, you say no when you mean yes, but also with life you do the opposite. And I'm gonna say that because with I've because I applied the same technique for both, and I'm not saying I'm doing that regularly, but I do try to do this. But with my kids when they were younger, well, can we go to the park today?

unknown 12:54

No.

SPEAKER_01 12:54

Because in that moment, all I can think is I can't factor the park into whatever else we were doing in the day, and then I'll come back maybe a little while later and go, actually, the park kind of sounded like a really good idea, and I can get their energy out and I can go run them and we can play and have this break in the day that they need and that I need. And then I would come back and say yes, which then taught my kids, well, if you keep asking, eventually mom's gonna say yes, you just have to keep asking. And so I had I that was a hard lesson to learn the whole time of raising them was I have to pause when they ask me a question and I have to think about it. And I have I can say, like, if mom needs a minute, let me think about that, I'll come back to you. And then when I've had time to process it, like, hey, they are actually being really good today, they probably do deserve a trip to the park. Then I can come back and healthily say, yes, you've earned going to the park, let's go play. And so now, as an uh, you know, an adult, busy, really kind of the things that are decisions that affect me and maybe not other people, when people ask me for something, I'm always quick to say, yeah, yeah, I can do that. Yeah, I can add that plate to my balancing acts that I'm doing. And then I look back and I go, why did I volunteer to do that? Or why did I say yes to that, or I really didn't want to go out Friday night because I have this other thing I was going to be doing, whatever it is. And so I have to apply to my life. Let me think about that and see if that's something I can do. Or with, you know, people asking us questions about our board, you know, can music in the park do this? Can we do this? We want to immediately say, yeah, absolutely, that sounds great. What a great idea. But in real life, we really need to go back and discuss it as a board and find out what's what's all the ramifications. Let's think this whole thing through. Can this happen? Can it work? And then come back with a more thought-out response. But I think we can apply that to anything in life. That you just when there's a yes or no question ahead of you, you you gotta pause. Give me a minute. Let me think about that.

SPEAKER_02 14:49

Give yourself a minute, give your kids a minute, give your grandkids a minute. Yeah, I love that. That's beautiful. And the other thing that was I was thinking about as you were saying that, because I know you're a bit of a workaholic. And I was thinking to myself, she probably really needed a break. And probably when she did take the kids to the park, it was a big deal for you as well. Right and probably a stress reliever, and it feels good because I've done that a time or two. Oh, if I I go outside and pet the horses, and I'm like, wow, I just feel so good. Like, just so good. Why is it so hard for me to just go out every day for five, ten minutes and pet the horses? Because my self, my ego that needs to feel valuable feels like I can only have that value if I get XYZ done. How can I get XYZ done if I'm out petting a horse? And when and but in all reality, if I go out and pet that horse for a few minutes, if I go to the park for a few minutes, you come back and you're more productive. Right. Right. Yeah. So um this fits us to a T2. We don't rest because we're tired. We rest because we finally break that moment when you just have no other choice. That was my Saturday. I had no other choice. I had grandkids that wanted to come over and play in the sandbox, and I'm like, I have to go home and shower and nap. So nobody cover for an hour, and nobody came over all night, and it was like, wow, that was great. And then you know, they all came back Sunday, so it was all good. But but yeah, it was good to. I think I took a two-hour nap. And I don't nap like that normally, and so it was definitely my body was yeah, for me, it's like the the break is like I literally will break somehow.

SPEAKER_01 16:43

So, you know, I'll like when I was in school, I think that is always a really good example because everyone would start getting colds and midterms are coming and all this, and I just refused to get sick. And so instead I wouldn't get sick during midterms, and I wouldn't get sick during finals. I would get sick as soon as we had like spring Martin Luther King weekend or spring break, summer, Christmas break, and then I'm and then I was not only getting like a break from school, but now I'm down for the count and I'm out with a cold because I would fight it all through the semester. And I do the same thing in life now. I will do and do and do and do, and then I will throw my back out. And I don't know how you deal with that or get sick at the most inopportune times or whatever it is. But yeah, I we I think we will just run ourselves until our body forces us to take a break instead of allowing the break more often, and then not having to have that forced physical break.

SPEAKER_02 17:45

Well, and I always tend to think that that's God also, God's hand. Like, well, now your back's gonna be out for a few days, so you can actually lay down and rest because you're not listening to me as I'm throwing the pebbles, throwing those pebbles, throwing the rock, yeah. Yep. So we've talked about that in other episodes too. That's a good analogy of that. So why do we not rest? Why does it feel so hard to us? Um and I think the big thing is the guilt. Absolutely. You feel like you're there's I've got this list. Well, that's what always gets me, too. I have this list, yeah, all these things I have to get done. But uh so this just happened to me, oh, probably a month ago. I got really sick and I was like, was I sick or did I or was it my back? No, I threw my back out. I think it was like almost four or five days. I think it was four days that I was completely and and I chose to just be completely down because I was like, okay, I'm gonna listen to God because yeah, I don't all the time, so I'm gonna listen. And I put everything aside. I pretended like that list didn't happen. I felt more relaxed, I felt fabulous, and and then when I got back to it, I was like, wow. There wasn't one thing on my list that had a due date that I dropped. The due date was all in my mind, right? The pressure was all in my mind. That pressure was all built on myself, that and that guilt of what I should be doing.

SPEAKER_01 19:21

Right. I think I I'm a big list maker also. And and I don't necessarily know that this is a bad thing, so maybe this can actually be helpful. But I I really enjoy a list because I like to see the things get checked off so I can feel accomplished. And sometimes when I am doing that, I'll go, if I if I can get this, this, and this done, then I can take a break and you know, not do anything for the next couple hours or the next evening or the next weekend or whatever it would work out with the list. And and so I I do think that there is some negative in that, in the fact that we feel like we have to reward ourselves in order to like reward ourselves with a break instead of feeling like we can just have the break wherever in that list. But at the same time, if that helps you rest, because you can turn your brain off, because you can say, you know, I did the important things or I did the thing that has to be had to be done today, but with your list, you had no to do, you had nothing, no like date that had to be done. So the rest could happen at any point. But maybe if your list required one thing to be done for sure that day, then you do the one thing, and then your brain can shut off in order to then have the rest. But and then the other thing I think we do is we compare ourselves to other people and we say, Well, this person is always so much busier than me. So obviously it could take on more, but we don't know that they are meditating for 20 minutes every morning or that they do yoga every day, or some other way that they're finding a rest each day. And you know, maybe going to those people and saying, How do you do it all? Well, I do it all because I, you know, spend 20 minutes in the Bible every morning and it gives me my energy that I need. Or I I switched from coffee to tea and it really helps me, whatever their secret might be, but finding out instead of comparing yourself to somebody else, saying, How do you do it all? and finding that maybe they do it all because they do take breaks and they do give themselves rest.

SPEAKER_02 21:18

Yeah. Or maybe they just look on the outside like they're doing it all gracefully, and then the inside they're like a volcano, ready, ready to erupt. Because I feel like people probably look at at us from the outside through an event, let's say music in the park, right? And they look at it like, wow, you know, those girls are just hard workers and they're busy and they're just they're just doing life, man. Look at them handling that so good. And the inside, we're like, oh my gosh, I just need a day off.

SPEAKER_01 21:45

I just need Yeah, show up a couple hours early to music in the park. I dare you. You'll see us fall apart right before it all happens.

SPEAKER_02 21:53

And it's usually like the the fall apart or the discuss of discussion about falling apart, and then we're like, okay, now let's just we've Got it all out. Now it's time to focus. And then we then we get on it.

SPEAKER_01 22:03

Get on it. Yeah. And then it's over and we go home and it's crash out. And we have a week until we start it all over again. At the end of the summer, it's the other like whoa. Big rest at the end of the summer. And we have gotten better about allowing ourselves like a big rest at the end of summer and not necessarily jumping right back into something else. So I think we're getting better on that. We are. I think the other mindset we all need to change is that resting means that you're lazy because that's not the truth. If you were only resting, then that's a different thing. If you, you know, if you don't find some sort of way to be productive or contribute or, you know, get something done. I can understand feeling lazy from it, but sometimes lazy is okay and we have to let ourselves have that. But we also need to just change that belief. Yeah. Resting, giving yourself time, self-care, all those things that we do to rest, because sometimes rest looks like a nap, and sometimes it looks like a self-care shower. Sometimes it looks like, you know, I don't know, like I find it really relaxing to get the grocery shopping done. I really like grocery shopping. And so I that's my outlet sometimes is just walk away from the house and gallivant slowly through the stores to decide what things we want to try this week. And I like that process, but you know, just taking that mentality away.

SPEAKER_02 23:24

Yeah. I go singing and down the grocery aisles. You know, a lot of times they have really good music. Because we're at that age now where they're playing our music on the and I'm like dancing down the aisle. Yeah. It was more so when I had kids. And you know, when you when you get to go to the grocery store without your kids, that's like a joyful day. Like you love your kids, but you know, those brief moments that you get alone are fabulous. So yeah, I would be like singing and dancing down the aisle. I didn't care who's looking because I'm like, I'm just enjoying this moment. That's another thing is to be present with the moment and be okay with whatever's happening. Yeah. So and and also not tying um uh your busyness to to worth, right? Like I said in the beginning with the you know, Kimmy, my sister-in-law, saying you're you know, your your value, your worth is just because you are. You don't have to prove it. You don't have to do things to have value, you don't have to stay busy to have value.

SPEAKER_01 24:25

Right. Um well, and also I think that when it comes to busyness and worth, one thing to remember is that the more we put on our plate, the less we can give to each thing. Yes. I always find myself at least at some point when I'm hitting on my breaking point, where I'll say to somebody, usually Tammy, I'll say, I feel like I'm giving 10% to 10 things instead of giving 100% to any one thing. Yeah. And I'm not, I'm not enough for this or that because I'm trying to give to so many places. I have to take something off of my plate so that I can be more for the things that really matter. And so taking that assessment on yourself once in a while, am I giving 100% to a few things or am I giving 15, 10% to many, many things and really not making a difference in that way because you're not really giving a lot anyway.

SPEAKER_02 25:15

Right. No, that's that's a very good point. You can't ride a uh you can't ride two horses with just one butt. Sure. So it's kind of like that. Like there's there's not a good balance. You can't balance even on just two horses. You know, if you had four you were trying to ride, which is kind of we're we're up there. But uh so the cost of not resting is irritability and burnout. And I I get that like when I have the uh grandkids over, again, I'm gonna stress how much I love them and I enjoy playing with them and all the things, but as I get towards the end of the day, yeah, I'm getting tired and I can and I feel myself feeling short. Yeah, and I don't want to ever be that way.

SPEAKER_01 26:10

I mean, that's true for parents of those same age of kids. I think by the end of the day, you're just like, go to your room, read a book, yeah, do something quietly. I don't know, I don't care what it is.

SPEAKER_02 26:22

Can we color now? So that's so that's really I had um uh my uh Oakland for a uh seven hours straight, and it was so fun. We played like four or five games. We just we we went outside, we did all these things, and then finally when we came in, I think it was right before dinner, and I was like, hey, what about coloring? And she's like, Yeah. So then that's like, okay, I can just break my brain off and you know, just enjoy the coloring. So so that's fun too. But um some things, and and I've had this happen to me. You can lose the joy of things that you love to do. Yep, like and and I feel like that's that is if you're so exhausted that you're just like dragging yourself to do something, kind of like towards the end of music in the park, yeah. Dragging ourselves, right? And we have people telling us, Oh, we wish you would do an like a couple more weeks, more weeks, stretching out a little longer. Oh my gosh, we can't, you know what? If you want to do that, you you go go ahead, be our guest. Right, like how Pocatello does with their chamber, they yeah, they give their chamber of commerce the last an an extra week because they only do you know, whatever how many weeks. So, like if we do 11 weeks, so that would be like us giving our 12th week, hey chamber, go ahead and we started with like one a month, so now they're up to 11 weeks.

SPEAKER_01 27:45

It's a lot, it's a lot and it's great, and we're we're happy that people love it and enjoy it and want more, but ideally for it to function at its best, we have to keep it where it's at. And that's good that we recognize that, but that also plays into everything that we're doing in our life, so yeah, you know, find your balance, whatever that looks like. Like if you realize that weeks and weeks and weeks have gone by and you haven't had a date night, you you we have to schedule. You know, we've these are all things we've talked about in previous podcasts, and so but all ties together with this one for sure. But yeah, you know, make sure you plan those date nights, make sure you're planning a self-care day for yourself, whether it's going and getting a pedicure, getting your nails done, having your everything shower, whatever that looks like to you. But don't get yourself to a point where you're so exhausted that you are not giving your everything to everything, you're not um losing joy in the things that you enjoy the most. I and I find myself doing that a lot where I'll come to my husband and it's been a long time. I'm like, I don't care what we do, it's not for a date night. We have to do go somewhere, do something. I don't care what it is, because I just need time outside of the house where we're just hanging out together, and I just need that.

SPEAKER_02 28:52

Well, that's me too. I have a quality time, is my love language, and so I just had that. I was like, hey, we need to have a Friday night date night. He goes, where do you want to go? I just want to stay home. I just want to stay home, but actually eye to eye contact, like spend time together, hold hands, whatever, you know, yeah, just be together, and then it didn't happen, but um because there's just consequence. But it's on the radar, it's on the radar, it'll happen soon, it'll happen soon, but but if I it and I love that you're saying like you know, we have to take care of ourselves and give ourselves all those wrestling things so that we're not physically exhausted. Right. Because if you go on a date, yeah, if you go on a date and you're you're just doing it because you need it, but you're so tired because you've worn yourself out that you can't enjoy it either. You can't show up. Yeah, you can't show up. So, and we've talked about this too. You can't pour from an empty cup.

SPEAKER_01 29:46

Nope. But somehow we try, we try to like milk something out of it instead of realizing that you know we need to fill it back up with rest, relaxation, energy, all the things that we need for ourselves in order to give. Moms are are obviously the worst at that. You know, we give and give and give, and we forget that we need to um give for ourselves once in a while, or else we don't have anything to give out anymore.

SPEAKER_00 30:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:11

But we've gotta we've gotta take that time, everyone.

SPEAKER_02 30:15

For sure. Everybody, you need it, you need it, and whether, you know, no matter what it is, even if it's dancing. We were just talking about this this morning. Uh Kevin had on some really good music, and I was like, I love to dance. That's when I feel free, that's when I feel like my brain turns out. And I'm like, Yeah, so dance it out five minutes. So rest is not quitting, it's refueling so that you can have the best part of yourself available for whoever you're with. Right. It makes you a better mom, grandma, partner, and just a better human to everyone around you.

SPEAKER_01 30:45

Right. And remember, everyone rests, everything rests, you know, our our pets rest, our husbands rest, our kids rest. We need to let ourselves rest too.

SPEAKER_02 30:55

Yeah, because rest isn't a reward, it's a requirement. Right. And one way or another, you're gonna have to have it. So um, my goal has been for this week, after I did my shower thing on Saturday, it felt so good. I was like, you know what? I'm just gonna do a 20-minute nap and I'm just gonna have a really long shower and enjoy my shower instead of like, oh, I gotta create the shower and get out of here because I got 50 million things going on. Right. Or, you know, sit in silence and just listen. There's lots of birds going on around here.

SPEAKER_01 31:23

Also, remember to tell yourself that it you this is allowed. Is it you are allowed to take a break, you are allowed to take a rest, you are allowed to take a longer shower, whatever it is that will fill your cup. Remember to keep telling yourself this is normal, this is allowed, this is welcome in my life. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_02 31:41

Because, you know, the name of this title it or excuse me, the title of the episode is permission to rest, and you definitely have to give yourself that. So I'm gonna recite the last part of that poem, and it's um but some days whisper something true. I need a little time for you, a pause, a breath, a quiet space, a moment that life won't try to chase, just time to rest. To simply be to not hold up the world for me, to set it down just for a while and come back stronger with a smile. Absolutely. So give yourself permission to rest and and uh have a great week this week and stay empowered.

SPEAKER_00 32:30

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