"Artist 2 Artist" hosted by Jim Jones

Mona hosted by Jim Jones (ep. 14)

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SPEAKER_02

Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Artists the Artists. Today is probably one of the episodes I've been waiting for the most. I have one of my favorite, I don't even know how to categorize her. Uh comedian, podcaster, real one, uh the infamous Mona we had.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

How you feeling, baby?

SPEAKER_00

I'm excited. This long overdue, y'all don't know that. We've been planning on doing an interview since probably 2021.

SPEAKER_02

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

Like, really, just can't, you know, this is a busy guy.

SPEAKER_02

No, not me. I've been, I I can't say that. I I definitely want to give you your flowers off top. From when I first seen you to watching you make your moves and just enjoying it because it you kind of like my uh a spirit animal. Like, so I first seen you in on TV with uh Gillian Wallow.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Um and when I first seen you, I was like I didn't I didn't even I I couldn't stop laughing. Like the end of me was just like chuckling so hard, like whoever this woman is is gonna be very big in this industry if she continues in that manner. Because some people have it and some people don't. Some people understand what dysfunction is, and some people don't really understand the power of it. And you seem to understand the power of it. So did your journey start with Gillian Wallow or did it start before Gillian Wallow?

SPEAKER_00

Um, kinda like I had um I went viral in like 2018 at the end of the year. And um, I always tell the story because it's corny, but I pray. I like like I prayed, like asking for direction. Like I didn't mix a lot or nothing, but I was just asking God, like, can you please give me a sign if I'm supposed to do something more than what I'm doing? Because at the time I wasn't like heavy in the street and I had like positive stuff going on. My name went to work, he ain't selling no or nothing. And you know, I had we I bought my first house, so I felt like I didn't feel as good as I thought I would about that. So when people kept telling me you should try comedy, it just like went through my head, but it still seemed so unbelievable. I think that's like the downside of being from the ghetto, you're not really taught the dream in the ghetto. So when you, even as an older person, like some stuff just seems so far-fetched. So the thought of me being a comic, it just didn't, as funny as I am, still it just didn't seem like so. I had to like go to God about it. I'm like, give me a sign, and I went viral that day. So after that, I think I did a podcast like a year later, but I was on Gillenham's show within a year. So it went fast. You know what I mean? That was like my first real job, basically.

SPEAKER_02

So was that like your first real introduction? How was that for you when you started getting that notoriety from being on the show?

SPEAKER_00

Um, it was just ill. Like being outside, just calling your name, or like people dropping your location, like you know, so I just seen um Don't Call Me White Girl, Walgreens, right? Or even getting used to their fan base, cause they had like that like real male, like bar stools kind of white a little bit. You know what I mean? So they they didn't like me on the room. I'm like, who this ghetto? She ghetto, she loud. So all that was different. Because you know, you start off with your own people, they love you. They love everything you do or whatever. So it was an adjustment, but I feel like it gave me thick skin. You know what I mean? Like I was ready. Cause it's like like after I did Gill and Wallow for probably three months, right? And afterwards, like they kind of just like like just stopped talking to me a little bit. So we never made an announcement about everybody always do that, but that's that's how this shit is for real. They didn't they never hired me to be like a permanent host, right? I was a guest host, and it was like they just shifted the way they was doing shit. Like after me, it was all celebrities, you know what I mean? So it was like they just didn't put me in on the shift. They didn't tell me, you know.

SPEAKER_02

But that was a great platform for you. You know what I mean? Like so a small person like you are chose to use that and continue on because there was a lot of power in that shots to Gillian Wild.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that was like yo, my gods, but I still get money now off of that. You know what I mean? So it's like I'm that type of person. I'd rather look at the positive part, and the positive part is that they gave me the fucking opportunity so people could hear me. So many more men, like Shaquille, Shaquille O'Neill said he fucked with me. Um Deion Sanders, like that shit, they didn't see me before that. You know what I mean? So, but that's how it went. So afterwards, it was like people was talking shit, like, oh, she got fired, da-da-da-da. You know, yeah, you know this shit. This this is the thing, y'all at home, like it's normal to y'all to just comment to people, but that shit is strange for people that people just tell you, because people tell me what's going on in my life every day. Like, they just tell me how they feel about me. But it's weird because in real life, people don't fucking talk to me like that. You know what I mean? Like, it's a big adjustment to let for people to disrespect you. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I know that could be hard also for a woman and facing so much disrespect, especially coming from males, also. So, how do you deal with that?

SPEAKER_00

I be cussing them niggas out. I go, I used to, and I'm telling you, I used to be so dedicated at it. I would go to your page, follow you if I have to, find a picture of your grandma. I'm going right there because you think I won't take the time to do that. And I don't work. Like, I can do that all day. Like, you know what I mean? And I don't give a fuck, kids, all that. I don't care. If you, you know, take the time to give me your little opinion about some shit, I'm gonna tell you how I feel about your sneakers. That's what the fuck I'm gonna do. And I don't care. Now, what happened was is Instagram started doing that bully shit, and I start getting in trouble for it. So then it was like, all right, I'm fucking up the paper. You know what I mean? Yeah. So I don't do it as often, but every chance I get, yes, the fuck I do. And I don't care because y'all deserve it. You know the most, what they say the most? Oh, I never thought you would see this. Oh, I love you so much. It's weird.

SPEAKER_02

Like I read all my comments. I'm a block fanatic.

SPEAKER_00

You be blocking? What?

SPEAKER_02

I can't wait to block you. Oh, can't wait to block you. Where are you from? I'm from North Philly. North Philly. Shouts to Philly. Born and raised?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, born and raised. I spent a lot of time in um Delaware, so I went like back and forth. Wilmington, Delaware is like 30 minutes from Philly, and like that's where people go. You know how niggas here go to Jersey? People from Philly, a lot of people go to Delaware. So like I used to do a lot of dirt in Delaware, and I was always, you know, like plug niggas, you know, it's out of town. It's better money out of town. You know? It's just most motherfuckers don't. A nigga uh be from Harlem, move to Peak Skill at five, and say I'm from Harlem, Harlem, and they forget Peak Skill. You feel me? So that's what Wilmerson is for me. Like, I can't forget Wilmerson, but I'm from North Philly. If that makes sense.

SPEAKER_02

It makes sense a little bit. I got you. Shout out to Peak. I've been all over and maintain where I'm from. I can understand it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Jim, no, I had to tell you something else. What's that? You was one of the first people that would like show me love before I was like, people really like knew me like that. And as far as people that I respect the people I listen to, people I look up to. You know what I mean? I was telling you off stage, like, we used to go get e-pills and listen to some of Miami and emotionless. This is a real thing. And this back when e-pills, you could get a triple stake, double stick, or a single stake. If we can't say it, take it out. But that's back when you had options, it was different prices, it was different highs. We would take triple stakes and listen to Jim Jones, it's just what happened. He didn't tell us to do it, but that's what we did. We feel like we in Miami, we on broad street. We eat the fuck up two days straight. Rolling. That's back when you drunk orange juice with the e-pills. I'm talking about back in the day. The shit y'all doing now out of its meth. We was on ecstasy, nigga. We got high. We had a good time. Chills. And everybody in here upset like y'all went on e-pills. A lot of y'all in here was on e-pills, too. Emotionless. Put my emotion aside, because they'll never take me alive. Uh oh, mama raised her up a thug. No, summer Miami, all there. He knows. He knows. I was grown. I was an adult. I was grown.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know how to feel about that. I don't know if that was a good thing or a wild thing. It's influential. But it's, I mean, I respect it, man. Come on, bro. That's definitely good to hear. And double stacks is I never took ecstasy in my life, but I've known a lot of feet. I know a lot of feet. I missed out. You missed out.

SPEAKER_00

I feel like ecstasy is one of the things you gotta do at once. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02

It's time to do it. You for real take some Fenty and that'd be W last.

SPEAKER_00

That's festivacy. It's festivacy. Y'all's for y'all rolling. Y'all on Fetty like a motherfucker. Them kids, they on meth. Don't even know it. Ecstasy ain't supposed to last four days, baby. That's meth. It's okay. It's a part of life doing drugs. You know what I mean? For certain people that are adults. Let's just move on, Jimmy. But yeah, you one of the first people to show me love that I actually fuck with. Even Philly rappers didn't do that. It was a big deal to me. You would put a comment, I'd be calling a fuck. Yo, go on my post. Jim Jones is in the comments. Like it was a big thing. And that's the thing, people don't say that. You know, like you're not supposed to say like that's corny. No, that was a big deal to me. That meant a lot to me. It made me feel like people could see me. Because it's the thing. Famous people like your shit, but they won't comment on it. I don't know why. Like most people that like me that was famous back then will only say something to me in person. They went and put it on a thing. But you put it on there, it's first of all, 30 people talking to you, just because it's just more engagement, it's a big deal. And you know that. And you do that for free. Like, I think shit like that should be highlighted.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, people should supposed to uh people supposed to highlight people they like. Like I seen, I see a lot in people that people may not see. I've always been good with that. Yeah. From first impression and things like that. And from the moment I saw you, and I was like, nah, this whoever this girl is, she got something she make me feel like Eddie Murphy on the screen or something like that. I appreciate that. And open up the doors for other people to come through, or if you can. So because support don't cost nothing.

SPEAKER_00

It's free.

SPEAKER_02

A lot of people trying to charge for support as they're trying to charge for any everything right now in the industry.

SPEAKER_00

You know what I mean? If we're in a whole like shit's so different now, like it's definitely a shady place, a petty place.

SPEAKER_02

Uh I be dealing with it all the time, but I choose it's not even engaged anymore at this point. I got too many things to do. If I take time out of what I'm doing to worry about what this is just gonna take away from what I got going on. So I chose this, I choose to stick to the money route that I'm on and I mean.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, because there's no point because niggas don't have the same principles anyway. Like the like morals and principles and shit, like certain shit that we came up in the street, even though you from New York, right? You from Harlem from North Philly, it's the same principles. We came up really, but the same kind of shit. It's not like that no more. Like it's no rules, like it's whatever. You know, like I remember when that uh slime shit got popular, like to slime your nigga out, like that. I remember thinking, like, why would anybody say that out loud that they do do that? That's like a thing.

SPEAKER_02

Like, no, the backdooring for is is at an all-time high right now. Like, everything is different, like you said, from when we came up, we definitely took honor and different things we were doing, especially with our niggas and shit like that. We didn't have uh, we wasn't even thinking about no backdoor on our niggas. We was thinking about doing what we was doing together, trying to get some money, bust the money down and do it again and things like that. Man, it's just it's just so different. But being in your position in the game and you come up against a lot of negativity sometimes because you are so vocal. How do you deal with that a lot?

SPEAKER_00

I like first of all, I don't listen to it. Like if I know somebody dogging me, I don't really listen to it. Like, it's to the point like when I first started, I would have like more public shit with people. And my um, my fan base, I call them my cousins. Like, I, you know, we family, like, and they knew not to send me. I say what I say about the person, I don't want her to come back. Like, I don't listen to it. I won't play it. Like, I go out of my way to avoid it. And I feel like a lot of my day one people, they know not to send me shit. I mean, it sounds crazy, but it's true. Like, when people talk shit and people send it to me, it's I was it's not people that I have a thread of, you know what I mean, talking to and I'm showing love. It's some random person or a fake page. So, number one, I'm not gonna read it. I don't know why a lot of people read that shit. Like, why I read something and the goal is to disrespect you. On top of the fact that on average, people that talk shit about me, I have no respect. I would never speak to these niggas in the street. They wouldn't speak to me because they're pussies, you know what I mean? And I'm intimidating. I've always been intimidating before this, you know? Big ass white girl in the spot, biggest white bitch in here, and I'm black. You know what I mean? So it's like I'm already intimidating, and these niggas is pussy, so I would never talk to you in the street for real, and you wouldn't talk to me, so it's like I'm supposed to listen to your little 45-minute TED talk, nigga. Fuck you. You're lame. Like, people like you don't, nobody talks to you. Like, you walk through, when you walk to the store, you walk around all of us. That's who you are. You know what I mean? Like them type of people, like, no, I'm not about to listen to your little TED talk.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I I I deal with it all the time. I I choose not to listen to it either. You don't listen? It's just cog it on my airways. What I gotta listen to it for. Yeah. They're gonna hate on everything you do. You you you can't make you can't make nobody happy out here.

SPEAKER_00

No, but you know what you're good at. You good at like, and I feel like these last couple years, like, that's something that I don't know if I didn't know that about you or what, but it or is that something new or whatever? I don't know. But you really good at like monopolizing it. Like, whatever they doing, you jump right on it. Like, whatever y'all think or whatever, this is what I'm doing for real. But you take advantage of the fact that it's going on. So it's like that's it's just getting bigger and bigger and bigger, like in front of these same niggas' faces, but they don't realize they feed in it. You know what I mean? It's like free, it's like free advertisement for real in front of your face.

SPEAKER_02

That's what I be telling people all the time, and they be waiting for me to react and crash. And I was like, I take all that negative energy and make it work in my favor and things like that. You know what I mean? Because you can't hide the truth for so long, you know what I mean? Yeah. People like to spread lies and it don't really matter. What do you like? You like you so you do you do stand-up?

SPEAKER_00

Yes, I do. A lot of people don't know that, but yeah, I do stand up.

SPEAKER_02

So do you like stand-up more or do you like podcasting more?

SPEAKER_00

I like stand up way more. Like a lot of me feel like podcasting is for weirdos, and I like I try to fight it through it because I'm a podcaster now, but it's just so many weird ass podcasters um that talk about weird ass, stupid shit that they don't know nothing about anyway. Um, so for me, like, I just I like like not to be graphic, Jimmy. Can I be can I speak frankly? Speak frankly. If I had a dick, it would be hard. Like I love stand up. I'll be walking around like hard dick. If I if I was a man, because that's how excited I am. It feels like drugs running through me up there. Like I really, really like it, Jimmy. I like it. And I I'm okay at it. Like I think I'm pretty good at it. I know I could get better. And I feel like I need to do with um a lot of the comics that I look up to do or done, like Richard Pryor and Paul Mooney and Dave Chappelle, and these people, they work out. Like the gym is them. So they'll pop up in Colorado and do a set with a you know Dave, because all the rest of them niggas did, but you know what I'm saying. So I feel like I need to put more effort into it, but just me raw, I'm kind of nice. You know what I mean? So it's like, I don't know, I just like that. But I feel like with podcasting, I'm not done yet because I haven't got to where where I feel like I could brag yet. You know what I mean? I did a podcast. This is my second one. It was okay. I'm doing another one where it's totally independent. Um, I used to have a business partner that is a bitch ass nigga. Um he has threatened to sue me a couple times. And you know what's crazy? I said to myself, like, if I am being sued for like defamation or whatever, if I could prove what I'm saying is true, right? So I'm talking about, I keep talking about this man's hairline because he does a comb over. He don't handle hair and he combs it over. You know what I mean? And I said to myself, just follow me. If we went to court and he was like, oh, you know, we're suing because she said I don't handle hair, Your Honor, can I bring a fan? You know what I mean? That's my defense. Because if I blow this motherfucker and your scalp come out, if you go pennywise on them, right? Am I wrong then? If it's true. I work with this nigga for years. He's a bitch ass nigga. I can't say that. It's bullshit, but whatever. We've separated. I'm sure some of y'all seen it on the internet, and I'm gonna go fully independent, thank God. Okay.

SPEAKER_02

There's nothing wrong with that. Yeah, congratulations.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. We own all independent shit. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02

This is all independent.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. So um, to answer your question, I I I like them both, but stand up, I definitely I prefer, and Jimmy, I want to do a special. Like I want to do a real comedian thing. You know what I mean? Outfit, hour, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02

I want you to do that. Yeah, I wish I could help you do that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I think that'll be very, very dope for you. I think you would definitely shake a lot of rooms with that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, I gotta come to uh one of your uh shows. I want to see you. I'm I'm a big fan of comedy. Um, but I heard you name a few comedians, and they were pretty much male comedians. Are there any uh female comedians that uh you admire or look up to?

SPEAKER_00

Um I like Wanda Sykes. Every time I exist, I forget so many people. But I like um I like the lady with the real nice shape with the fat ass. She got a fat ass and a flesh. I mean, she does a bit about her teenage daughter. She's funny as shit. To carver. I like to carver. Um, because the fact that I can't answer this, it just don't look right. Like I really gotta have my shit. Because it's bitches I like, but I cannot spit these bitches out. Every time I stutter and I don't want to look like one of them bitches. You know what I mean? I'm already light-skinned, they don't like light-skinned bitches. And now it's like, oh, you don't know what girl you like and you light skin. They already fucked me up on Twitter. Damn. Derek, send me some people, bro. Start making shit up. Some more. Monique, let's just get it done. Fuck it. Don't do that. Come on, he's trying to be funny. He's trying to be funny, cut that out. Nah, but it it is a lot of girls though, Jimmy.

SPEAKER_02

Um Well, you like I mean, it's okay. My favorites are men, though. I mean, that's okay. I don't know, top five. Of what, comedians? Comedians. Uh my top five comedians would be Eddie Murphy. Uh that's from like uh from from the raw days. Delirious. Delirious, yes. Um uh Mike Epps.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Um Richard Pryor. Um Bernie Mack.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Throw an internet person in there if you can. Somebody like updated. Besides me, because he loves me. We know he loves me already.

SPEAKER_02

Um, um, see, uh now I feel crazy that I just forgot.

SPEAKER_00

Um I'm gonna give give him time and I'ma do um my list. Think about your internet person.

SPEAKER_02

I got you.

SPEAKER_00

Um, my official list is Paul Mooney, Bernie Mick, uh, David Chappelle, Richard Pryor, and who am I missing? I do this every day. You ain't give no internet. Paul, I didn't give an internet person either. So, damn. My internet person would be. I can't do just one person. It's a lot of people. I like Lou, the one that do all the skits, the power skits and shit. Um y'all know Lou? Y'all know Lou. Um fuck. This is crazy. This is sick.

SPEAKER_02

I do like Lavelle. I do like Day, I I like Desi. I like, I like Drewski.

SPEAKER_00

Drewski funny as shit.

SPEAKER_02

Shout outs to Ray Ray.

SPEAKER_00

Um Yeah, Ray Ray. I fuck with Ray Ray.

SPEAKER_02

Uh, who else?

SPEAKER_00

Um They real comics though. Them niggas tour all year, huh? T Braggs is funny.

SPEAKER_02

I like Mr. Commodore.

SPEAKER_00

Mr. Commodore's funny. Yeah, he's funny as a motherfucker for years now. Like, DC Youngfly. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

DC Youngfly, that is definitely one of my favorite comedians right now. I seen him and Mike Epson tour like two years ago. Man, he had me crying in my seat. Shots to DC Youngfly.

SPEAKER_00

I used to follow him on Vine. That's how long. Yeah, he used to be with a guy named Fat and Pay. I always watch comics online, but I never thought about doing it. And then I would make the Vines because they were so short and they mine was ass. And I was like, fuck it. Like, fuck this stupid ass shit. That shit, like that's the, but that's for my whole life. Everything I tried, it would be like, fuck it. I never had no, you know, you know what I mean, no try again, except for street shit. I would try that over and over and over. Over and over and over. Yeah. But like that type, like choir. A lot of y'all was in choir and soccer and shit. I didn't do that. I didn't do that stuff. I was in detention. I was in ISS. I was bad the whole time. I was.

SPEAKER_02

Uh how did you end up on the Joe Butt show?

SPEAKER_00

Um, shout out to Joey and my guys over. There. I had met Joe, I think just on the internet, he fucked with my stuff, and we met right away. And we I did his podcast and I liked him a lot. And then we were cool since then. It was always like a when you gonna come over here and fuck with me or whatever. But when I went on earlier this year, he just wasn't playing with me. You know what I mean? Like he was serious, like let's, you know, let's try it out or whatever. Um, I'm not gonna lie, at first it was just like it's so many niggas up there. I mean, it's so many niggas, so many mics. You know what I mean? I'm like, God damn. It's so many niggas up there. Like, where am I going to, you know what I mean? And then it's like, because I've learned so much from Joe in this short amount of time. It's like, I didn't even know, because you gotta think, like, I come from outside. I did the podcasting thing. I ain't take a class. I didn't know it was an A mic and a B mic. And it's it's to my default because I should have. Being that, God bless me with it being here for me, I could have at least learned some shit, but I didn't. So the way they flow and they A Mike, B Mike, and it's like, Mona, shut the fuck up, pass me the ball. That's new to me. Cause I'm used to just running my movie. You know what I mean? Plus, Jimmy, I'm a comic, so dead air, I freak out. I'm used to mm-mm mm-mm, like I do on shade.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But Jimmy, like my fan base is 85% female, theirs is 85% male. Niggas don't want to hear no bitch talk all day. Like, I know that about men I have male friends. Like my male friends come to my house and don't say shit because they tired of that bitch talking. That's why they don't come home sometime. Cause you as soon as you get in here, like niggas hate that. So it's like when I do it, like I feel like them people don't like me.

SPEAKER_02

But you don't really have a feminine angle. Like you come from a real you damn near talk like a nigga. So I think I think niggas do appreciate it. How you do you are you are you enjoying it?

SPEAKER_00

I uh honestly, I could say like like probably a week or so ago, I was having a bad day, and I live that shit really turned my day around. I was almost like, what the fuck? Like, I like these niggas. Like they cool, like they cool niggas. Like, and I am a positive person, so it's like I recognize how big of a fucking platform that is now and how big of an opportunity it is. You know what I mean? The same way I'm bigging up Wallow and Gill five years later, bro. That motherfucker, that's the biggest urban pockets in the world, not the country. That shit, that shit that nigga built over there is crazy. And it's like to even be adjacent to it is it's a blessing. It's nothing I can do but come up from that shit. Learning, whatever. You know what I mean? So it's like I'm super appreciative of it. You know what I'm saying? Like, no matter what it look like, like I like I recognize that um it's a blessing, and you know, I also recognize that that's somebody else's blessing. You know what I mean? That's Joe shit. You know what I'm saying? So it's like while I'm there, I just want to get the most I can out of it. You know what I mean? And have fun and get them niggas a little uptight. I mean get everybody face red a little bit. I like that part a lot.

SPEAKER_02

I think it's perfect for you. I mean, I think you definitely think so 100%. I know you definitely can hold your own. Um your opinions are definitely needed. Uh definitely they different.

SPEAKER_00

I mean Jimmy, I say shit, the whole room be like.

SPEAKER_02

But that's what's needed. Yeah, that's what's so good about you. You know you're gonna say something that's gonna shut the whole room down, and the people go crazy. That's what I love about you. You're definitely not gonna say what people expect. Never. Like half of the things you say, you didn't talk about a man two pay is crazy to me, bro. Oh, and so in school, you was like this? In high school, was you like, like you were snapping on girls and stuff like that?

SPEAKER_00

Like, was you yes, it's like and and because that's the thing, like where we from, it's like a defense mechanism. Where it comes from is it wasn't really like, you know, a lot of niggas be funny because niggas make fun of them. My mom was real like, my mom would go to work and come home. She was sitting in her room, she didn't really like fuck with me like that. You know what I mean? So I think I used to try to make her laugh all the time. That shit made me better. And I remember the first joke I ever told, it was I made her laugh. Like I I have a vivid memory of that. Like, and I feel like that's really where it came from. From like in my house, my house was quiet, so I made noise. I'm the only child. I'm my mother's only child. It was quiet as shit in there. You know what I mean? Like, it would be dead quiet. My mom used to say, love your mother crazy. What? My mother used to say, Demoni, you only get a certain amount of words per day. You about to run out. They ain't gonna let you talk tomorrow. I used to be like, for real. She's like, shut up, there go two more. Like, shut the fuck up. Because I used to talk crazy. Oh my god, it was crazy. My dad was in jail, and my mom wasn't really like an outgoing person, so you know. But I started going outside probably by myself, probably third, fourth grade, no bullshit. Outside, like, you know how um you got your block, but then the next hundred, I lived on our bain street, but on the next hundred, it was teenagers, and they had like a clubhouse, they'd be there smoking party. I just used to my mother was at work. I used to get go out the back door, do my little thing, and I would go outside, bro. Sometimes I would, instead of going to school, I would go like I was going to school, wait, and just be outside on the avenue. You know how you back in the day, remember we used to get sneaks on the avenue? Everything was on the avenue. Like the hub of the ghetto was the avenue. We didn't go to no malls back then. We didn't internet shop. You got your sneaks off the avenue, you got your bleach off the avenue, you got your eggs and your meat off the avenue, your mom meat package off the avenue. I would just hang out on the avenue all day, skip school. I always liked being outside.

SPEAKER_02

I was bad as shit. Did you graduate school?

SPEAKER_00

I did. By the skin of my teeth. I did. I did. I did.

SPEAKER_02

You went to college?

SPEAKER_00

Um, a little bit. I went to um I went to community in Philly before. I went to community in Delaware before, and I got accepted to North Carolina Central. Shout out to y'all. That's the only HBCU that ever accept me. All y'all black kids at home that think that you're not good enough to go to school, fine. You're a recruiter from HBCU. They will take your raggedy ass with all the missing days and your fight from ninth grade and the little weed charge and everything. I wish I knew that man's name, because he got me in school, um, and I didn't even go, but he did, I did get accepted North Carolina Central, and I needed all of y'all to know that. You know what my main hustle was though for a long time?

SPEAKER_02

What's up?

SPEAKER_00

I was a booster for a long time. Like a booster booster.

SPEAKER_02

Philly girls are good at booster. Not to say like, but I know a couple of Philly chicks that was had the foil paper in the bags and all that shit back in the day.

SPEAKER_00

In the magnets.

SPEAKER_02

You used to get busy like that?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, with the line bag, yes. Yes, the line bag a felony like a pistol. You cover the line bag, you went to jail. What? Real shit. It's like a p. It's like if you if the police pull you over, especially state troopers, people that see people going to the mall, if they see you with the linebag alone, that's a felony by itself. You don't have that clothes in it. They know what it is. You said made it. You made it to steal. It's a felony. It's a stealing tool, no bullshit. Boosters get in the comments to tell Jimmy.

SPEAKER_02

That's wow. Yeah. Yo, that's like having a gun. You would catch a felony.

SPEAKER_00

It's a felony line bag. Yeah, the line bags, yeah. The Lizzie bag. At home, a Lizzie bag is a bag that you line with foil.

SPEAKER_02

That's what it was called.

SPEAKER_00

And you duct tape it, and then you put it inside your maw bag and stuff things with sensors in it so you can get in and out the stores without a beat. Allegedly.

SPEAKER_02

Allegedly.

SPEAKER_00

That's played out though. And we off the line. They off the line. You know what? Never mind.

SPEAKER_02

I'm lost. I'm just lost. I'm just glad that you don't have to boost anymore.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I'm off that. I'm off that. Like that best buy credit site.

SPEAKER_02

So does you have in your own podcast conflict with working with Joe?

SPEAKER_00

Um, no, no, not really. Um Joe, like, um, they Joe buy all day. So we get there like 10, we done like eight, seven, eight. We have a chef come through, he treats you nice, you know what I mean? But we get a lot done. And it's like, his shit's such a machine, I can't put a dent in it. You know what I mean? I ain't in that nigga way. Like, and that's what I told him. I was like, you know, as far as like work with him, I would really appreciate it for him to like mentor me in podcasting because I feel like for me to be podcasting that long and not realize where he was in podcasting is like crazy. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, he's definitely that dude.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I didn't even know.

SPEAKER_02

He's definitely, definitely one of the four, the four founders of really doing it. So with you working with joining them now, did does that help you with your own podcast? Did that make you do different things now?

SPEAKER_00

Listen, that that motherfucking call. I hate to call y'all that, but y'all know y'all in the call. Let's just be real. Thanks for welcoming me in. Um that shit is so big that I don't give a fuck what you put on it, it's gonna sell. Like, I'm talking about like something sitting at my lap, motherfucker reached out. You you had that on, like it's dead deep. You know what I mean? So it's like, for me, it's an advantage because whatever I got for sale, I'd be a goddamn fool not to mention it while I was there. You know what I mean? Uh like that I'ma always do that, you know? So it's a it's an increase. I had a um show not too long ago, and it like I said it on the day it dropped, and the club noticed the tickets went up a little bit. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02

And as far as your own podcast, did it help, does it help you?

SPEAKER_00

We we here now, because I'm I'm literally in the beginning. Like when I say I want you to come on, like I want you to be on the first five episodes. Like, it's that new. You know what I mean? So technically, I haven't had a podcast in two weeks. It's the first time I haven't had a podcast in five years. Yeah, so technically I don't have a podcast. I haven't dropped episode one yet. Yeah, so she's gearing up. Yeah, I'm gearing up. Please don't think that I'm not going like people, y'all going crazy. I would never not have a podcast where I could just talk to y'all directly and have that thing. Like, I recognize that we have that, and I love y'all, and I'm coming. Okay? Be patient.

SPEAKER_02

You went viral a lot of times for uh crazy shit. Yes, a lot of crazy shit. Um, but a lot of it has to do with uh relationships and male encounters and things like that. Are this just comedy or is is is this someone that's real?

SPEAKER_00

Like what my biggest video is real. That why you being weird to me, that one hand, that's all real. Most of them are real, I feel like. Um she said something about Pat Reddy. Pat Reddy wasn't real. I made that up. Like that didn't really happen. Yeah, I had a big video about Pep smear.

SPEAKER_02

But the right hand on frontal.

SPEAKER_00

That's real. It's really a nigga around. That yeah, that's really a thing. And it's crazy because I used to catch so many people say, oh, that video about me. People I never even had sex with. That's so weird that y'all did that.

SPEAKER_02

She said it's really a nigga around here doing this stuff.

SPEAKER_00

It's for real. That's for real. Are you looking for him still? Nah, fucking. Fucking. That's dead. Nah, I'm not looking for him at all. But that really is a real thing. Like, I wouldn't even lie. I feel like I don't know something of them are real. I did a video about an ugly baby. I wasn't really looking at an ugly baby. You know what I mean? Like, you just be talking shit. Like, you know. Like, I don't, I wouldn't do that. Like, I wouldn't see somebody, baby, and just make a whole yes, I would probably. This let's move on. Let's move on. Let's move on. Let's move on. Let's move on. Why you being weird to me is that's my biggest video, and that's real. Straight up. That's for real. The one hand on the front of shit is for real. I promise. I didn't know, but I didn't go to the mom house and all that. But the dick was crazy. I say that. If that makes sense, let's just move on. It's called the dick back. I made that up. You know what a dick back is? You never got fucked real good, and then you think about it randomly in the middle of the day at the wrong time. Like it's always something wrong. Like you talking to your grandmom or something, or a kid asks you a question, you think about like when his dick was on your head. It's always very nasty and slutty. Like you think about that, like the little spitting thing, like mid-conversation. You yeah, look, you have you know what I'm talking about. Like freaky stuff in the middle of the day. It's called the dick bag. It gives you chills sometimes. It's bad. I got chills right now.

SPEAKER_02

Oh god. So where's uh this is this because you're here because this is not, but where would you wildest place?

SPEAKER_00

Wildest place? Um I don't even know. Let me see. That might be corny. Wildest? Promise it ain't really that wild. I I'm I'm I tend to get hit in the car more than the average woman. But I don't have a lot of repeating spots. You know what I mean? Like I don't have a lot of wild spots, but I've been hit in the car more than most people.

SPEAKER_02

That's good enough.

SPEAKER_00

Car's good. I get that's not wild though. I mean, is it a good thing? I bet you you're wild this place ain't nothing like no car. It's only some jet shit. It's some jet on the way to the Grammys with 10 chains on, diamonds, furs, and shit. Bro, I walked in this nigga had a peacole on now. Please, let's talk about the peacole. I walked in here, this nigga Pico. I'm like, Jimmy, are you going to a funeral? It would have had to be like Diana Ross's funeral. That peacole. Like, what the fuck? Them niggas, them peacoes really nice in person. This is crazy. He only got that peacock. It's in the back. This nigga wore it here.

SPEAKER_02

So, so what kind of car were we talking about?

SPEAKER_00

Car? Yeah. I'm resourceful. I didn't got any Honda's X. Come on, we fucking. I don't care about no car. We gonna get we get Corby in trouble regardless. You know what I mean? And so everybody not worth going to your house, girl. Or the telly. Let's just get this done and over with and not speak. Yo. She filling me, ain't you?

SPEAKER_01

Yo. Let's get this. I already knew what type of time you want with you.

SPEAKER_00

We she talking about talking about them Philly niggas. I knew what was up with you. But I ain't gonna put you on blast like that. I ain't say your name. All right.

SPEAKER_02

I've known a few Philly girls.

SPEAKER_00

People like people like Philly girls and Philly guys.

SPEAKER_02

I would say Philly, Philly was one of the crazier places we used to do shows at. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

People like Philly girls.

SPEAKER_02

Very liberal out there in Philly.

SPEAKER_00

That's a nice way to call them hoes. Men like Philly girls. Men and women like Philly guys. Their beards and all that. It's popular. It is.

SPEAKER_02

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00

Say drawing. That's a your baby daddy on the phone. Say join. I'm here, say drawing. Stop on, say join. Say drawing.

SPEAKER_02

So I don't know. I don't so I don't want to ask the wrong question. I don't know if you involved, if you're single, but I'm single. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Single, single.

SPEAKER_02

Okay. Real shit. The real single? Yeah. Or the single to get somebody mad. You say that single.

SPEAKER_00

No, single, single. Don't nobody care. Like one of your cousins single. Because I'll be at the family events then. You know how lit that shit is if I come? Stop playing. So they had dumb fun at Thanksgiving this year. Nah, I don't even want to relationship or nothing like that, though. I was in relationships my whole life. That shit is out right now. Like I'm not on that. Like, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02

So you don't like guys no more?

SPEAKER_00

No, I like men. I never even had pussy yet. I plan on it.

SPEAKER_02

How much money you gotta have?

SPEAKER_00

What?

SPEAKER_02

To get some coochie? Is it like a marker before you dive into it?

SPEAKER_00

No, I'm already, like, I be attracted to girls a little bit. I just a little nervous with them. Like, I'm not comfortable yet. Like when they come at me, throw their pussy at me, I'm like, oh, girl, wait a minute, bitch. And I know I'm not ready because I get aggressive. You want to say, bitch, what watch your mouth, young bitch. You know what I mean? Don't talk to me like that, bitch. Like I get on some jail shit. Because in jail, everybody's a lesbian, and I didn't give up no pussy in jail. No. I never fucked no girl. Never kiss nothing. And everybody, if you watching this and your wife's in jail, she's getting fucked by a stud that like me and he fresh. I promise you. That bitch like Hurricane Chris. That bitch like Hurricane Chris. She is dogging your baby mama near. Fez and all. She's getting fucked. I'm telling you, them bitches getting fucked. Homemade strips. Get like that.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, I don't even know where we go with this.

SPEAKER_00

Just being honest with you, Jimmy. I wouldn't want to lie to you.

SPEAKER_02

So does your success make it hard for you to do that, niggas?

SPEAKER_00

Yes. Oh my God. So stressful.

SPEAKER_02

It's more, is, is niggas wanna post.

SPEAKER_00

You know what I mean? They want to be like, it's it's just get sticky. Nigga, nigga try to talk to you, think he's cool. Next thing you know, he dropping little hints about his mixtape. I ain't even know you rap. Nigga post it. It's a setup, Jimmy. And I'm posting drill music. Looking stupid. Cause I done did it to this little boy.

SPEAKER_02

Would you date a YN? I date YN right now. You date Y-N right now?

SPEAKER_00

Goddamn now.

SPEAKER_02

Right now?

SPEAKER_00

Y-N like a thug.

SPEAKER_02

Like a young nigga. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00

Young nigga for sure. Yes. I'm with that. This is how I look at it. Do you want to know?

SPEAKER_02

A Philly young nigga or a New York young nigga? This is two different types of Y-n's right now.

SPEAKER_00

I never. Listen, I dated a guy from Harlem, a guy from Brooklyn twice. Right? Most generous niggas I ever dated. Literally, they just look out. That was my experience. All three. Nigga from Harlem was generous? Yeah. He must really like you. I met him out of town. He's getting that powder off 100 a gram. You heard me? It's a lot to go around.

SPEAKER_02

He had the bag.

SPEAKER_00

We out of town. We done poke no shit.

SPEAKER_02

You already knew he was working.

SPEAKER_00

Come on.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So it's different. But um, yeah, I don't know. My experience with New York niggas that they was, they was nice guys. Like, I don't know. I never I that's my personal experience. I'm not really into like mean guys or like stingy guys or whatever. Like I bumped into them, but that's not like, you know, my pick. You know what I mean? I like a nice guy. I don't care if you got one eye, one leg. If you're nice, that's my type. You know what I mean? That's what bitches fuck up at. You want the nigga that could dress as handsome. No.

SPEAKER_02

That's what you used to like.

SPEAKER_00

What? I always dated ugly ass men. I feel bad when I say like my ex is like, oh, damn. But they know. You know what I mean? I prefer the ugly nigga. What's wrong with that?

SPEAKER_02

Nothing. His beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

SPEAKER_00

That's right. And a man, the way he treats you, if you gauge the way he treats you, is so different than gauging how he looks. I just wasn't ever into that. Like, oh, he hands him I want him. I was never on that. You know? Period. Jimmy, this is what I'm trying to tell you. My era growing up, everybody had a nigga. You just kept a nigga. It's almost like if you didn't have a nigga, was something wrong with that pussy. That's just how we were. That's just how we were. The girls that were single, we would talk about her like a dog, like, girl, that pussy corny. Ain't nobody. She don't even got no kids. We used to talk like that. If you didn't have kids, we would say your pussy was corny back in the day. It don't even make no fucking sense. Now we all walk around with all these fucking kids. Anyway.

SPEAKER_02

Do you got kids?

SPEAKER_00

I got a couple children. Just a couple of them niggas. I'll show you the picture when we get off here.

SPEAKER_02

They young?

SPEAKER_00

It's a range. It's a range. I don't, you know, I'll tell you about them. For real, that shit gets sticky.

SPEAKER_02

How they feel about how they feel about what you do?

SPEAKER_00

They like it. Um, they proud of me. Like, they thought I was a star from day one. When I had 10,000 followers, they thought I was that bitch. They always was on that. And my son thought he was famous, too. He would say, My fans, I need some merch, mom, when he had his little list. I don't need some merch for my fans. Yeah, because it was like I used to keep, I used to put them on the internet. It was like a more of a family vibe. Like I would share that. But that shit got dark on the internet. I stopped sharing it. Like they people start approaching my kids in the street. My kids would be walking to the little corner store. People would stop and talk to them, touch them.

SPEAKER_02

Crazy.

SPEAKER_00

When me and my son dad split, um, and my son dad is a real shy guy, like real mature type of guy. And um people will run down and touch, touch our like he, and he could not handle that. You know what I mean? So when we split, I decided not to post them no more at all because just fair on the split, he can't deal with the fan part. And that's just the fair thing to do. You know what I mean? It's not like my son coming to me saying, Mommy, I want to do content. And to the people that do kids for content, it's no shade to y'all that you beating the shit out them kids to do cartwheels on TikTok. But I just wasn't willing to do that.

SPEAKER_02

Okay. Okay. I didn't want to I'm sorry, I didn't want to get in your family business like that. No, you good. You good.

SPEAKER_00

I gotta tell you something else, too.

SPEAKER_01

What's that?

SPEAKER_00

Back to the young nigga thing. Is it that I like young niggas? Like I talk to young niggas, or do young niggas talk to me and I respond, Jimmy? I mean, which one is it? Exactly.

SPEAKER_02

Does young niggas talk to you? Do you respond?

SPEAKER_00

They talked to me first. It came out of nowhere, these young motherfuckers. I always dated older. I'm 21, my nigga 31. I dated a 50-year-old when I was like 22.

SPEAKER_02

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_00

That was common. And it's the thing, I feel like people forgot that.

SPEAKER_02

You know what was common? Because I'll here we go. Well, I mean, in my when I was younger, in the 90s, the early 90s in high school, it was always older niggas coming to pick up high school girls in the new rods and all that. All the hustlers was coming to pick up all the high school girls in the cars and shit like that. And them bitches was hopping right in them cars in the front of police, in front of the teachers, the administration. It wasn't like a big thing like that.

SPEAKER_00

It wasn't a secret. They didn't call it grooming. Nobody told a story on TikTok. And this is no shade to people that go through trauma or whatever here at Jimmy Podcast. We feel for you, we pray for you, all that. But niggas was allowed to groom bitches back in the day. I'm just telling you what happened. You was a corny bitch if somebody ain't picked you up in the egg legend and that nigga ain't have a receding hairline. If your nigga went to your high school, you was a lame girl. You would tell a nigga in high school the basketball. Star, you would tell them I like mature men. Boy, your boyfriend was 33 with four kids.

SPEAKER_02

Every one of the bad joys in high school always had an older nigga coming to pick them up. Oh, you suspect. Bitch, we be mad as hell. You fucking slut.

SPEAKER_00

You was competing with grown ass men in high school, period.

SPEAKER_02

It was hard. The looks didn't do it all the time.

SPEAKER_00

Nah. But these niggas got cars. You know what I mean? You go over to 33-year-old house, you over there from Friday to Monday. You ain't nothing ain't nothing but dick and bubble gum over that motherfucker. Your stomach don't have nothing but cum and gum in it. You sucking dick every day, all day over that motherfucker. Happily, hungry as shit. Hoping he gets you some low main, child. Happy. That's just the truth. So, Jimmy, now that I'm the older nigga, I can't grow me a nigga. That's bullshit. Now I don't want to hear it.

SPEAKER_02

My turn, nigga. This is what I this is what I needed. People be acting like, like I come from a we come from obviously the same area. They be acting like this didn't go on. Like this shit, this type of shit went on regularly. This was not, this was the norm. Like I don't think, bro.

SPEAKER_00

Normal thing. Your principal knew that you went to the parking lot and got in a man car and left. Like they knew that these motherfuckers at the bar on the weekend, the towns ain't that big, the cities ain't that big. These motherfuckers doing shots with the nigga that's fucking the girl to go to this goddamn school. Nobody gave a fuck. They say it was grass on the field, play ball. It's wrong. But that's what they say. And this is the thing. Me and Jimmy are not saying it's not a good thing that people are progressive now. You know, that's wrong. That's not what we see.

SPEAKER_02

We're just diving back into how we grew up. Yeah. And to be telling you things that were going down that weren't really a big deal, even though they were wrong, as we could see. But they didn't, I guess they didn't inform us that back then.

SPEAKER_00

I I feel like, like I really don't remember. I don't know, I don't even remember like talk, I don't know. It just was a status thing. So it was like you were just considered grown or cool or you know what I mean? Or advanced. That's all. I don't even remember it being like a thing where it's like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

So what is what is the why and age limit for you?

SPEAKER_00

I don't go no younger than like I don't know. DM me and find out. I don't think it should be. Like, I don't I can't see me nobody like 25, 26, or nothing like that. But then it's like, what if I met a real mature 25-year-old? Like, why is that wrong? Says to him, because that's your little brother. Girl, fuck you.

SPEAKER_02

25? I mean, it's I don't see really young with it. What's the Y-N? Like more like from 19, 21, that's crazy. 18, 22, 23. Am I right or am I wrong?

SPEAKER_00

I feel like 25 wrong.

SPEAKER_02

The cap is 25, like that's an old YN.

SPEAKER_00

I've never gone like more than like an eight or nine year type of difference or whatever, but I just feel like I don't give a fuck. Like, in reality, I don't care. So if I met um, because I feel like a man is a man is a man. Any young guy I ever fuck with was like a man. Like he didn't give little kid. Like, and I'm very like free-spirited. Like, I be with the young nigga. I'm more immature than the young nigga is half time. So it's like, because I feel like they people wrapped up in this age thing, what you should do at this age, which is so irritating to me. Like, first of all, you young people, in this country, we're ages. What do ages mean? Ages is like, we just look down on people as they age, and it doesn't make any sense because in reality, if you don't get older, you die, right? So it's like, why would you look down on older people or say older people shouldn't do this or they corny or whatever when that's the fucking goal? If you want to live, everybody. You know what I mean? Like, I don't get it like the whole, you gotta dress this way, you gotta act this way. I don't subscribe today. Like, I do what the fuck I want to do. I get paper. You don't like what I do? Cool. You get your money and do what you want with it. I'm gonna do what I want with it. Like, I'm out here making money. Are you crazy? I'm gonna do what the fuck I want.

SPEAKER_02

Like people be talking about me all the time when it comes to oh, you don't dress his age and all of that. How the fuck I'm what I'm doing, man.

SPEAKER_00

What am I supposed to do? 3P suited?

SPEAKER_02

I don't know. I don't know what era they think we came up in, like the 70s or the 80s no more. My era, this is how we did it. This is how we get fly. We don't do this ain't I don't I I have no idea, man. Me neither. It's just so funny. I tell people you can't make nobody happy. You give them a lot, you give them a little, it don't matter. They still gonna talk shit about you and shit like that.

SPEAKER_00

But the people though, they like authenticity though. I do feel like they notice when it's real and they like that shit.

SPEAKER_02

100%. Yeah. Because the real always gonna rise to the top, and that's why you're gonna always keep going up, no matter who talking shit. Most of the people that talking shit about you, only because they see you doing things they they can't and that they would love to do. I feel a lot of hatred from most people come from a place of admiration due to things they wish they could do when they watching you and things like that. So it's like for you, you're gonna definitely get a lot of that. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00

But what you mean, innovation, like jealousy? I don't know if it's jealousy, but it's not like they look up to you and they still hate on you.

SPEAKER_02

100%. That's 100%. I don't know if they look up to you. I'm just saying more like they know that you're doing something they would wish they could do. Yeah. And they they feel that they can't accomplish. You dig like you, you you you understand what I'm trying to say? That's how I feel like haters are because what's the hate, what's the hate about? Yeah, you ain't you're not gonna hate on somebody that's not doing something that you can't do.

SPEAKER_00

Right, or you interested in it some kind of way.

SPEAKER_02

You know what I'm trying to say? So you're gonna go up against a lot of that because who you are, you you shine bright. I I think that you should not pay attention to these people that's trying to throw you and keep. I know. Yeah, but it ain't worth it, it's not. It's not not past your not past your craft. So I know you know what you're doing. Yeah, but don't let that shit get under your skin.

SPEAKER_00

I be wanting to do shit to people. I know. I promise you. You know how they say when I'm rich, I won't tell people, but there'll be signs dropping like flies. I'm telling you, this budget get right. Niggas is going. Check that out. What? What? I'm telling you. What? That'll be my motherfucking sign. I'm in there talking about all raw shit. Blow dart, like you know, old school shit. Wow shit. Wow shit. This is this is this you said you're from North Philly. Brownins, all kind of shit. Allegedly. Yes, I'm from North Philly, Jimmy. And these are jokes, guys. But it's rough though. I really do want to drive that home like to the people at home. I don't know why y'all try to give people attention in such a negative way, but it's just so it's unnecessary. And I want you to notice too. I know some of y'all believe that the internet is a different place. I like I see y'all say that like, well, it's just the internet, it's just social media. That is not true. People will fucking hurt you for some of the shit that you do on the internet. It's a fucking fact. I've seen it a thousand times. You will get hurt about that shit. It's not worth it. You start your little fucking blog, you live in fucking Kentucky, you live in Cleveland, you ain't hiding nowhere, they done whooped your ass at the fucking uh first, first time the weather broke and y'all had something, they beat the shit out you at the bar. Because you think you want you vlogging over the winter about people. You can't just do stuff like that to people. On top of the fact that it's bad energy. I am a firm believer that this works for me because I put good energy out. Like I'm actually a good person. Like I attempt to be a good person. I think I attract that back to me. I know that. So it's like if you think that you can live this great life and you Christ-like and you pray and you do the right thing, and you good Muslim, you make salat five times a day, but you happen to be a troll and you say nasty things, people you don't know on the internet, that you deem lower than you because they have more than you, or you think that they don't that's supposed to care because they have all this success, that shit is slowing you down. Like, that's why shit in your life don't work out. I really believe that shit. It's too negative. Some of y'all are obsessed and soaked in negativity. You comment on people some negative shit, you watching some negative bullshit where they're fighting the whole time. Like, it's just negative all around you, and you wonder why your motherfucking hair won't, you won't get your coil together. You can't get that coil to spin right when you're curly fro. You know what I mean? Or you can't get that shit past your ear. Like you niggas with dreads too. A lot of y'all been growing up dreads for years, and that shit is earlier. You need vitamins.

SPEAKER_02

So dealing with so dealing with your success, uh, I know you've starting to realize how fake a lot of these people are in the industry. And how cut throat a lot of these people are in the industry. There's gonna be a lot of disappointments. Yeah. You ready for that? These niggas are users. They're vampires, they try to suck every bit of energy out of your paws and use it for their own greater cause and things like that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I I feel like at first, when I first started, I used to say to people, like I used to be like, this ain't nothing. What I did in the street, you know what I mean? I did the 11 to 7 in the crack house with all men. You know what I mean? Cracking my pennies. I'm falling asleep in a chair and I'm serving people out of my pennies. I did that. You know, right? And I used to say, this ain't shit because of that, right? I know five drug abusers that might live outside sometime that I can trust with my kids and my car and my money. I know people like that that get high. I don't know five celebrities like that. These motherfuckers is soulless pieces of shit, period. Like, that's just what it is. You know what I mean? So I feel like for me, like, I'm just real honest with myself, and I try to um, like, be a better person all the time. Cause my worst fear is that I get to the point where I can't hear nobody and I act like some of these weird motherfuckers. You know what I mean? Because that's all it is. Ain't nobody close enough to pull the coattail and be like, yo, you tripping.

SPEAKER_02

You know what I mean? That's why you gotta have a always have a good team around you. Like, and it's hard to have a good team around you because people be having their own ulterior motives. You know what I mean? So it's like it's it's just it's it's hard all around, but it's hard all around. But you gotta figure that good team around you. Because if you got a good team and a good support system, that's gonna make that much of a difference or shit like that. I promise you. Facts. You know what I mean? Yeah, you get them, hold them close, treat them right, and you won't have too much because this game is nasty. It's nasty, Jimmy. Oh man, it's so what?

SPEAKER_00

It's not scary, it's just nasty. It's like yucky, like you don't want to be a part of it.

SPEAKER_02

Like, nah, because it's there's no loyalty. None. You know what I mean? Like anything they say, what they say, never meet your never meet your idols. Oh my god, I know. Because they disappoint you. I've I've been up against that 98% of the time.

SPEAKER_00

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_02

I met artists that uh once grew up admiring and things like that. Yeah. And it's kind of sad, but I get it, because uh a lot of them are just doing what they do for entertainment and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And most of them don't come from directly where you come from. Right. So what you think they're projecting on the music and not something is not what they're projecting in real life and shit.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So it's like, but you'd rather have not met them because you could have kept that what you because rap was everything to me. So them niggas meant something to me. You know what I mean? Like, I cried when DMX died for a week. Like I I bonded, my dad did 10 years, and when he came home, they played um X mixtape. So me and him got close off as Darkest Hell and Hot. Me and my dad, like that's like that shit is all a part of my life, you know? So me and some of them niggas, and they like my X was an error.

SPEAKER_02

DMX was an error. I would I can't I I like I remember they playing DMX song in the tunnel for the first time, and just watching the crowd react to nobody knew what was going on or who he was. He just started barking, and his club just started going crazy, and then that run that he went on was just like crazy. I kind of helped grow grow this up, and then I got to be on tour with DMX running with Cam very in the very beginning. Maybe this was like '98, I want to say.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's when he first was like rolling for real.

SPEAKER_02

Bro, when I tell you, Eve was from Philly, I remember this being all that up, but to see him perform night in and night out, I never seen nothing like it, man.

SPEAKER_00

Like you say nigga cry every every show, like real cry, not fake cry.

SPEAKER_02

Bro, every show, like he makes people laugh, cry, fight, like everything. I'm just watching the energy, and his energy always be on a hundred. And then after the show, he damn near collapsed because he got asthma. So he they trying to get him all type of asthma pumps and all that shit. But for a whole show, our hour straight, hour and a half straight. You would never even think he had no asthma. DMX was going eight shit, man. Shout out to DMX. He definitely was a real figure in my life when it came to music and the fact that I got to be that close in the in that proximity of crazy greatness and shit like that. Just X was different. They don't give I don't think they give X enough credit that he deserves for the superstar that he was. He was like one of the earlier artists that was going diamond back to back and doing movies that people went to see. A lot of them. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like he was one of the first artists to do a lot of these things and the amount of money that was made and shit like that. Um and I think, but that's what the hip hop culture does, and shit like that. They cut a lot of artists' legacy short by considering you old or something. It's the ages shit. Like they and in other genres, they do not do that. They celebrate those who still are out here performing.

SPEAKER_00

I've heard you say that before. Yeah, you are the only people that say that, but that's a fact. Like them old rock niggas, they do it to their grave, but it's just we don't do that in our it's like you almost a dinosaur at fucking 30. Like, it's weird. I don't, I don't back to what I said before, I don't get it because I don't know what the other side of that is. Like, you die young, I guess that's lit. I don't know. I don't get it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I mean that's what they say, but I I think die dying old is is a bit better, but I mean so for me is like it's very hard to be in this game this long and still trying to and still being able to get the attention of a younger generation and things like that. It just don't happen. But I'm blessed to be in that position and shit like that. But hopefully it'll level out. Uh you think that you should tone it down some?

SPEAKER_00

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

Do you ever think about that?

SPEAKER_00

I feel like I don't want to do it if I gotta tone it down like I feel like it's no girl doing it like me. Like it ain't nobody, and that's no shade to nobody, but nobody raw like me. And I feel like a lot of girls like it raw, like how I am. It's not even a lot of options if you like real shit. You know what I mean? From a girl like, what about all the street bitches on parole and shit? They fuck with me. Like, I just feel like, and it is crazy because you know what I didn't know, Jimmy. So many girls that like college educated corporate girls, I call them my corporate cousin. So many girls that live things opposite of what I have or what I've been close to necessarily or whatever, they love it.

SPEAKER_02

They live in vicariously through you. I told you you like people spirit animal. Like you like a real inspiration, you give people confidence, you give people motivation. Like, is this all that wrapped in one? Yeah. You know what I mean? So has anybody in this industry told you you should tone it down a little bit?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, people tell me all the time, but I don't listen to niggas though. Because I did this by myself, Jim. Like, niggas come on, you know how niggas do. You build it up, then niggas go, oh, I can do this, I can do that, it's your penitential, it's like, all right. Like, I did it already by myself, so it's like you can't really tell me nothing. You know what I mean? Like, especially with what I've cultivated, because I know my lane is mine because it's mine. I did not, that's the best part. Like, I feel for people that put on these personas because you gotta go home and take your little mask off. This is who the fuck I am. I didn't think everybody in this room was just sitting around the same bitch before the light came on. You know what I mean? I don't have to like, that's the best part.

SPEAKER_02

Like, I ain't I'm just it could be you naturally and you gotta worry about nothing.

SPEAKER_00

Free man. It's free money.

SPEAKER_02

I'm telling you. I just be talking my shit. Have you been you ever cost you any opportunities?

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

Because some that's the thing, is like the downside of like not having like a job history or like certain structures in your life, being on time is gonna be hard for you. Like, I always made my own schedule. Like, I'm not late on no Hollywood shit. Bitch, I ain't clock in nowhere for real. You know what I mean? I'm not, I was always my own boss. So that part, like teaching yourself structure at an older age when it's like you built your life around not wanting to do shit like that. You know what I mean? Like in every way. Cause when you outside getting money, you don't have, you know what I mean? You can make it your way. Like, so yeah, I get in my own way. I've gotten in my own way. Cause I'm really, I'm crazy a little bit. Like I look, you know what I mean? But um, I feel like I learned from everything. Like I don't tend to do the same shit over and over and over. Like I don't hit my hair like that. Like, I'm too old for that. Like, I ain't on that. But yeah, I done lost a couple gigs. I ain't gonna lie. I had, yeah. And not even for cussing people out, or just for like giving, like, I don't give a fuck. Like, because a lot of me didn't, you know what I mean? Because to survive the street, you can't really care. Like, if you care too much, you it's dangerous. So, like you adapt and I don't give a fuck. Like, it is what it is. Shit, it's hard to shake that shit. That was like most of my life.

SPEAKER_02

Like, so do you feel that you can you can adapt in different rooms if you have to?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, now, yeah, for sure. I thought having all these years in for sure. I feel like um, like I know, I know how much the ghetto girl run culture. Like, I know the type of like necessity we are. Like, we push the needle. Like, why Cardi's so successful? You know what I mean? The Bronx on, because she is a ghetto girl, like we run shit. I'm not a black girl that has to buy black people stuff from white people. Like, I don't buy black people stuff from Kardashians. Like, I know that we make it and we cool. Like, I don't have to get it from nowhere else. Like, I know how special we are. You know what I mean? Like, I'm one of them. So for me, it's like I know that, like, yeah, I'm ghetto, I'm abrasive, I'm aggressive, or whatever, but I also know what's gonna be popping next with the with the weird, with the talk about, all that shit. Them white people get in them corporate rooms trying to figure out what the fuck we thinking. It's in my brain. So, yeah, my bop is confident like that because I run it. I'm a black woman. Like, it's really nothing bigger than that. And I really believe it. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02

So it that's incredible to be a black business, a black woman who's running her own business. And because of that, do you think that you run a run across anybody trying to take advantage of you in this business? Because you're a black woman running things on your own and they don't see you with a big support system and shit like that?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I feel like, especially just being a woman in this game, because comedy is male-dominated, white male-dominated, then it's male-dominated. And I feel like people assume that, like, and I'm kind. I'm I'm kind. Like, I'm not the person that comes in, sit in the corner and talk. I talk to everybody. Security outside, all it. Nigga cleaning. I didn't talk to everybody. So it's like some people take that shit for weakness. Why I don't know. So, um, and I feel like niggas don't have nothing going on. Some people's whole hustle is to jump on a nigga back and ride off their coattails. Like, that's their whole lane. So um, it's happened, but I feel like I'm I'm vigilant and I'm not I'm not sweet. You know what I mean? Like it's only certain how far you gonna get with me with that shit. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02

Like, do you ever get scared of cancer culture? Shit. This so-called thing called cancer culture because you are so vocal.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, I've had I had a run-in with my gay cousins. I love y'all now. All right, but I had a run in with them, and I'm talking about that shit. I was like, that shit was for real. They was cussing me the fuck. I was losing followers by a minute. It was like emails, everything. It was real, but what I said was wrong. And um, the thing about me, like I ain't too big to say I'm wrong about some shit. That's why I think about cancel culture. I feel like for me, I don't have a fear about it because I really don't hate nobody. You know what I mean? Like I don't really have a lot of hate with for anybody. So it's like, and I no matter how wild I seem, I guard my tongue around hurting people because I don't want to hurt nobody, especially a motherfucker that helped me get on. So it's like with that situation when it did happen before and them the following going down, all the shit going on, I ain't having a problem saying, like, oh, I fucked, like I fucked up and was wrong. I misspoke. Because I really did miss miss um speak or whatever. Um, and that shit don't do nothing to my ego. You know what I mean? Like, I don't that don't make me feel no way I was wrong. Like, at the same time, that's just like the conversation we had about grooming. Like, if they thought that was like crazy, it's like, nigga, I said that because that's what the fuck happened. You know what I mean? So, but I feel like when we say that, look how we said it. And that's the difference, Jim. Like, look how we said it. Yo, if you suffer from that, we don't want you to feel if you got trauma. It's a way to do this shit. And when you do it right, you got a lesser chance of that shit going, you know what I mean, happening like that. That's all the people want to know.

SPEAKER_02

Oh shot, so I I try to make sure make a point of that, like, cause I know that when we grew up, it was a lot of shit that is. Just say whatever you want. Not good right now, you know what I mean? So it's like I always try to put out that little, like, yo, this is something that I grew up. So I don't think nobody I'm promoting it because this shit is real. So with that being said, do you think that comedy is way too sensitive now?

SPEAKER_00

I think it's, I mean, I don't like the sensitive shit. Yo, when I see them clips from 90s shit, even when it's white boys, dogging black people, like I just enjoy raw shit. I like it. Like raw, I just like it like that. Like, like for me, I hate that people will critique a comic like that. Because I don't know, like, where's the line at where you laugh? I think the line should always stay if you're not trying to hurt nobody, but it's like part of comedy is like, you know, I mean, I don't know. We came up with the black people do this, the white people do this, the way.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Eddie Murray, they were saying some off the butt. It was comedy. People dying and laughing and things like that. And it's like, I would say com. I would say comedy is definitely a bit sensitive, especially from the comedy that we grew up on to. Yeah. What's going on? And I get it, because society has changed, and a lot of the things could potentially hurt somebody's feeling. But comedy, comedy, I think the beauty in that was that. Yeah. You know what I mean? It was like, but I think that moving forward, you'll figure you'll you'll f you'll figure that out also.

SPEAKER_00

I be thinking, I be hoping that I can have where like some, cause I, because I like some of my jokes are way worse than what I put out. Cause it's like, where can I do that at? You know what I mean? So I always hope like I could be able to.

SPEAKER_02

What's a bad, what's a, what's a, what's a what's a what's a way worse joke?

SPEAKER_00

We can't even get it off on it. We ain't we ain't even gonna, we'll tell you okay. That shit is not gonna fly on. How bad is a joke? Like that shit. But I'm I dog, I've done shows where, like, I did a show down at Lana, right? And because you gotta really read the room and know what's up. And I didn't pay attention that the first probably 10 rows was like big hats. And it was Mother's Day, and I'm like, happy Mother's Day, everybody. All the beautiful black moms in here. I'm like, um, shit. Um, I got kids myself. Um, yeah, you don't love them kids if you don't look at them at least twice a month and think, damn, I had that 350. I just needed the car ride. I just needed some train pass, saying I would get abortion. You think about aborting them kids that's alive. It's a fucking joke. This nigga six. I'm saying I think I had the 350 to avoid all the drama with his dad. It's a joke. These motherfuckers tightened up. Like, uh, like I said, some crazy, like it was horrible. Like, but I'm down south. These is old niggas. Mind you, they old, so it's taking some of them a minute. So some of them getting shocked at different times. Like, it was horrible. It's like I threw a grenade in the drone. It was horrible. Yeah, but I be hoping I could do that. Like, I can have jokes where they super X-rated for crowds that come for that. Like, I think that'd be cool. Like, if you could subscribe to something where you know, you probably gonna get offended. You cannot sue. We say what the fuck we want. I think there's a need for that. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02

But I think that you're gonna give them the need for that. And for you, I think the uh bigger you become and the more famous and successful you become, people going to be coming to your shows just for you.

SPEAKER_00

Looking for that, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Because it's always that one thing that slides. Yeah. In the middle of what goes on that can't be canceled. And I think that the direction you're going, that you're going in, being your natural self, that the way people are attracted to you, and I think that they're gonna give you that naturally because you got like a Richard Pryor, or like you said, it's like it doesn't feel like acting, it's feel like you're talking, and that's the that's the beauty, and it that's what I love about it the most. It's like you're just talking being your natural self, but you have no idea what it does. Like this, it just like today, this this I don't know hello, like yeah, like I can't, I would like to fall out right there. Cause I can't I like you just a lot. You just but before we got here, I want to ask you this. With all of this being said, and you being from North Philly, very vocal, um, don't take no shit. Uh it seems like you're a ex-crasher, ex-tweaker. Um what keeps you grounded from crashing?

SPEAKER_00

Um I feel like probably just looking back at everything I got done. You know what I mean? Um like I before I never really like um like pat myself on the back. You know what I mean? Like I would just kind of keep going. Now I make sure to like make sure like when people give me compliments or even people give me awards, people give me awards, I wouldn't even necessarily like make it a big deal and post it and stuff like that. Like, I do more of that now because I need to stay in, like, yo, bitch, you just did something crazy. You just did, like, this is a big deal. Like, I have to remind myself of what I did so I don't throw this shit away. Cause like I get mad, I ain't gonna lie, I get mad at something. That shit makes me mad. It will make you mad. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02

Like, the only human.

SPEAKER_00

I got docs for the first time, like, number, address, all of that shit. And it's so crazy because it's like in my head, oh, that never happened ever. And if it happened, I'm gonna do this, then it happened. You know what I mean? And it's crazy because I um I don't have a lot of people in it, but low is somebody. Wallow is close to me and Wallow are close. And I caught and I'm like, Low, like, yo, niggas, niggas put my shit out. You know, what the fuck? I'm like, like, you know, like I'm not really asking what to do, but I'm almost like, like, shit, this this shit getting crazy. Now I gotta react. Now this shit getting crazy. He like, change your number, Mona. Like, just like that. Like, change it. Change whatever, like, and just moved on. Nothing else ain't I say, and it's like, because that's all Walo do. He wins. He don't have time. Wallow don't sit around, talk about no niggas, don't talk about what nobody say. It don't matter. Like, Walo called me when he seen me with Joe and was like super proud, like almost emotional proud, you know what I mean? And it was like, it was just a big deal for somebody that I started with to call me like that. So for him to be like, it was changing, it was just like, I'm changing my number. Like, I totally let it go. I felt dumb for feeling like, oh, this shit, you know what I mean? Like, cause at the end of the day, we know people that went there with people who tougher, and they won or lost, whether they die or they upstate. So it's like you're never gonna be the toughest person. Never. So it's like, what the fuck I'm gonna do? Motherfucker, what am I gonna go do for real? Like, all right, you got me.

SPEAKER_02

Wallow is dope. Like, yeah. Anytime I guess he sees anything in social media about me or whatever, he always calls my phone.

SPEAKER_00

He do.

SPEAKER_02

Like, stay focused on what you're building.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Because if you if you if you if you fall into that, bro, you're gonna fuck up what you got going on. So I I appreciate, I appreciate Wallow for that. Yeah, yeah, good nigga. We are in the holiday season. New Year's upon us. What are I wouldn't even say your resolution? What are some of your goals for 2026, if you have any?

SPEAKER_00

I got um, I want to get like, cause I lost some weight this year, but I want to get like strong. I want muscle.

SPEAKER_02

You looking good.

SPEAKER_00

Thank you. Thank you. I was a big I'm glad the first time we met, I wasn't big as shit like that. You know what I mean? I'm glad I'm a little smaller. Like you met me small, because I was big as shit. I know you seen it, and you ain't even seen it. And that's how I know you for me. Everybody in my life, like, damn, Mona, you good? Jim act like he ain't even see it. Regular you, Mona. Like he don't even know. I'm breathing hard on the phone. He ain't care. Um, but um no, I want to get stronger, like I want to lift weights and stuff.

SPEAKER_02

Like go to the gym. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I want to and I want to learn how to do stuff, like you know, like I want to look cool doing it like you do, blunt in the mouth.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, it's it's I mean, first you gotta go, you gotta get there. That's the hardest thing about working out. To get to the gym. Just pushing the door open to the gym. Yeah. Once you push that motherfucker in, then you gotta get busy. But I would say for you, if you haven't been working out at a minute or just starting to work out, you really gotta go in there and just start moving. Like I said, if like for the first 30 days, no rhyme or reason, use a bunch of machines, but going in and do a bunch of your body will start to. I still remember jail sh burpees. I remember if you're gonna do burpees, then that's gonna get you right right, that's gonna snap you right in. Yeah. You get up and do burpees and you did you ain't gotta do this burpees. You really a fed babies.

SPEAKER_00

We used to do burpees in jail. We did burpees. We did the um the what shit y'all do with the um on the minute.

SPEAKER_02

Pardon me, I'm about to say ladies be working out hard in jail too.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I mean, I not it's not everybody, but it's always a nice group like that work out. Cause I I always say work out partners in jail because I'm one of them. I get I'm a good inmate. I don't go in there breaking rules and sh. Put my chemo on, get the brand, and I'm Muslim, but I get real Muslim in jail. I'm just being honest. But yeah, I don't I'll be on my shit.

SPEAKER_02

Well, you think back about the life that you once was living, how good does it feel to know that you don't have to take those risks anymore, don't have to put yourself in those positions anymore, don't have to deal with anything, put your life at risk, put your freedom at risk.

SPEAKER_00

I know I make a joke of it, but like, like it's it's the best. Like just not being like like not having nothing to really worry about, because I still gotta be on point, but I don't have that same worry. Like I don't feel like I don't even want to say it, but it's like always you feel like indictment coming. I got indicted early. I went to the Fez at 21. So my whole life outside always was like, these gonna come because how they come, you know, you never know when the f they coming. And um it's just good. Like even with like like I used to couldn't watch jail shows enough. And that shit would be like, oh my god, like it just disgusts me. But now it was like, I know I'm not going there. You know what I mean? So I can watch it. Like I can watch it and get a little kick out of it. Like I know I'm not going through all that. So I don't know, but it, you know, I don't want to never glorify it, but it's like, you know, I survived it. You know what I mean? Like, I put myself in a position and I didn't tell on nobody to get out of it. I did my time, you know, and I survived it. So it's like I share it because it's something, it was a character building thing for me for sure.

SPEAKER_02

You know what I mean? Do you regret anything you went through?

SPEAKER_00

No, nah, nothing. I would do it all over the same. Nope. Nope. Well, hell they damn this shit worked out in the end. It worked out, yeah. It's lit. Blessing, right? Yeah, it's lit, Jimmy. For sure.

SPEAKER_02

I got a gift for you before you got it. Okay. Got you a uh a jacket.

SPEAKER_00

Thank you. Diplomat jacket. Not a diplomat jacket.

SPEAKER_02

I'm definitely thank you for coming by. Of course. You are uh I I told Kobe, I don't want no females this season unless I could get Mona. And you came through for me, and that's so dope. Thank you. I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, you know I love you.

SPEAKER_02

With that being said, that's this is Mona, and this is uh wrap up for artists and artists. We see you on the next episode.

SPEAKER_00

That was a good drawing.