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Desi Banks hosted by Jim Jones Ep 22

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SPEAKER_01

Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Artisan Artists, where we like to say this is a conversation that needs to be heard. We all know that in my head. All of my guests are very special today. Wait, wait, wait. Let's rewind that back. Brought to you by Playmaker. You heard if they don't make the plays, then we don't get paid. We always gotta say playmaker. Now, back to my very special guests. You know, I love I love a good joke, and this guy's uh very close to my heart when it comes to uh the funnies. Uh he's pure tears. Uh welcome to the show, Desi Banks.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, gee, I appreciate that. Jimmy, yes, sir Ski, I am in the building. Yes, and boy, let me tell you something, boy, feel good in here. I like what's going on. I like the artwork, you know what I'm saying? I like being your presence, bro. I appreciate you, you know, having me on here.

SPEAKER_03

Thank you, man.

SPEAKER_04

You know what I'm saying? That weed is weeding, you know. I ain't hit nothing, but boy, that buzz in me. But yeah, man, I appreciate that. I know we got to speak a couple times in the past. Yes, sir. Um last time at the fight. Last time at the fight.

SPEAKER_01

Um I've been watching, I've been watching your career um through social media. You are um one of the standout people that capture my attention on social media, and I believe that there's a lot in that. But before we get there, I'd like to give people a little bit background story about uh guests. So where are you from?

SPEAKER_04

I'm from East Atlanta, zone six, Atlanta, Georgia. Atlanta, old acres, Gresham, flat shows, countlow road, uh-huh, you know, you know what the rappers be talking about. Yeah, no, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I'm familiar, I'm familiar with the ARC born and raised down there.

SPEAKER_04

Yes, sir. With the school down there? Yep. C to Grove, all of them. Cedar Grove Elementary, C to Grove, Middle, C to Grove High. I went to all of them. That's on the east side. They they know.

SPEAKER_01

You graduated?

SPEAKER_04

Yes, sir. I graduated from high school and college. And college? Yeah, I played ball in college, so. Basketball? Football. Football? Yeah. Oh shit, what was your position? Receiver.

SPEAKER_01

Pause.

SPEAKER_04

Ah.

SPEAKER_01

You know what I mean? Yeah, that's crazy. It's nasty. I forgot where I was at. I'm in New York. They pause everything. You can't you gotta be careful what you say out here. The position and receiver was crazy. I don't like that combo. We gotta watch what we say on this show.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I can't even say I catch the ball.

SPEAKER_01

You gotta just be damn. I can't even say I score touchdowns. Pause. Everything pause.

SPEAKER_04

This is gonna be a whole pause conversation.

SPEAKER_01

No, we're gonna keep it cool. My son played football, so I know uh football is a very uh dope sport. Um definitely teach you about uh brotherhood. Uh you gotta depend on your brothers. Um, when uh were you the class camp, class camp?

SPEAKER_04

Most definitely, most definitely. You know, when emotional humors in school, getting selected as that, talent shows, all that. Used to act out, movie scenes and everything. I used to do all the crazy stuff. I was the funny guy on the team, all that. Yes, I was that guy growing up watching shows like Martin and you know, watching movies like Nether Professor, and you know, getting that inspiration, not knowing I was gonna be exactly what I was watching back in the day. You know what I'm saying? So that was always a part of me. Prank, I was prank calling when I was seven years old. I used to do all kinds of crazy shit back in the day. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, seven years old. Me, uh, me and Cam used to prank call as one girl when we were younger, and her grandfather would pick up the phone and have a fit. We would go prank caller is a it's an all-time classic.

SPEAKER_04

I used to prank kind of act like I was a pastor and pray for people. And people thought I was a real pastor. My next door neighbor used to say, call, call my cousin real quick, and act like a pastor. And she really thought I was a pastor. I had all her information and everything. And she felt like she told me she was catching the Holy Ghost and everything. She felt like Jesus was talking to her, and it was me. Yeah, so Jesus wasn't there. How you know? How you know this? Oh my God. Oh, she's next to a neighbor told me.

SPEAKER_01

Uh so uh I'm figuring you took uh you took the more uh funny road than the gangster road coming up.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I yeah, for sure. And you know, I was around the gangsters, but I just chose the better direction. And then, you know, the gangsters, if that's what you want to call it, those guys, like if they was gonna do something crazy, they used to be like, man, now you go go to football practice, we'll see you later on, or whatever it was. You know what I'm saying? I I could have chose that route. I could have. I I got family members, I got friends that's incarcerated, that done, that's that's dead, that's you know what I'm saying, that that chose that route. You know, I'm just glad that I was able to say, you know what, I see what y'all doing. I respect what y'all doing. I ain't got nothing to be, I just chose. I've been playing sports all my life. Sports is what really like saved me. Now, if I ain't played sports, ain't no telling how my life would have been.

SPEAKER_01

So you was good at football?

SPEAKER_04

I was good at I played growing up, I used to play uh baseball. I played baseball. I started baseball at three. That was my first sport. I started playing basketball when I was seven. And then I ain't start playing football until I was nine. And football was supposed to be a punishment because I was kind of like bad in school. My mama was like, you know what, I'm gonna I'm gonna give you some discipline. I'm gonna put you around these football players, not knowing I'm out there whooping these niggas ass. You know what I'm saying? And I got good that way and I fell in love with it. You know what I'm saying? And that became like the sport that, you know, that made me who I am today. You know what I'm saying? Football was that thing. It like I said, football is the game of life. It gave me discipline. You know what I'm saying? From being a team player, from structure, from, you know, being on time, from working hard, from working out how we do every day. You know what I'm saying? It just gave me that mindset, you know, that, you know, of course I'm a comedian and actor, but that shit helped me. It just helped me, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01

You grew up with that's that longevity. You grew up with both parents?

SPEAKER_04

Um my mom, you know what I'm saying? My mom who raised me, and my grandparents, they raised me. No, I respect it. You know what I'm saying? I mean, my dad was there, but you you know how it is. No, I yeah, I totally respect it. Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Try to get a little insight of it.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah, you know, I I grew up with my cousins and shit like that. I was at home with, you know, we all slept in the same bed, bump bed, you know, stuff like that, you know, head to feet, feet, you know.

SPEAKER_01

You you said you uh scoling people acting like a pastor, so that must mean you grew up, you grew up in the church.

SPEAKER_04

For sure grew up in the church. Yeah, sure did. You know, I boy, I used to be scared of the pastor. I used to be scared of that man. I used to be thinking, boy, you used to be killing people. The pastor was about to see people father coming up. But you ever used to be in that in that line, standing in that line, he put a hands on, put that white shit over him. I bought boy, them folks up, they're dead. They dead under that white sheet, boy. And my parents told me to go down. I thought they was giving me away.

SPEAKER_01

Yo, do you like so I I made a movie? I made a movie about I made a movie about church because to me, coming up church was a real comedy movie. Most definitely. Bro, there's the amount of shit that goes on inside the church is crazy. The Holy Ghost, all that.

SPEAKER_04

I bruh, I ain't I that that used to freak me out too sometimes. I be like, what is this going on? And my mama used to tell me to go down there and talk to God. Like, he ain't he ain't listening.

SPEAKER_01

That ain't listening to me. Show about the church, I believe, is a show. And I'm not sure. No, for sure. All pastors are like that, but I'll be like Are you a God-fearing man? Most definitely. For sure. I think I think that's more important than actual church. Being able to say your prayers and being connected with God is actually more important than showing up to church. You know what I'm saying? Have your own connection.

SPEAKER_04

Yes. That's more spiritual than anything. You know what I'm saying? It ain't no, I'm picking the sides of Business Christianity. Shout out to all those people. But I think at the end of the day, you gotta have your own connection.

SPEAKER_01

A hundred. Your own connection.

SPEAKER_04

You gotta feel your own thing that you feel.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_04

You know what I'm saying? So yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So when did you really start to dive in with the comedy?

SPEAKER_04

To be honest, I I I've really been doing it all my life. Now, as far as like taking it seriously, seriously, because you know, I started social media back in 2012. My homeboy told me, he was like, bro, man, it's this funny uh app they got called Vine. It was an app called Vine Six Second Clip. Six seconds, six-second clip. Six seconds. Yeah, but six seconds was like 30 seconds back in the day. We was really chopping them up.

SPEAKER_01

We used to put our workouts on the Vine in that six seconds, bro.

SPEAKER_04

Exactly. You know, I started there. Um, you know, fast forward, man, 15 came. I started on Instagram, you know, and I didn't really start really taking it seriously until I graduated from college. Like I was still doing a building up. I was still quote unquote a little famous on Vine, but I ain't really started taking the series until I felt, you know, football didn't work out for me. That's when I really chose the path that people had already seen to me. That I ain't even really was thinking about, you know, that they saw me growing up, being this person on the team, or whatever it was, you know what I'm saying? I didn't really start taking the series until I graduated. And when I graduated, I found that.

SPEAKER_01

When did you know it was gonna work for you?

SPEAKER_04

When did I know it was gonna work for me? Of course, when I started getting means and views, but when I start doing stand-up, that's when it got real for me. That's when I start meeting the legends. That's when I start going toward legends like Mike Epps, Martin, and I start, you know, getting around, having mentors like Kevin Hart and, you know, getting advice from all these people, being on tour with Gary Owens, Lavelle Crawford's, the Lou Nails, the Samoa's, you know, doing stuff out here, you know, just doing it in a real way where I was actually getting like respect from doing it real instead of like social media. Because you know, you can do it on social media, but like you really find yourself when you're that one man with that mic, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01

So you think as a as a comedian, um you have to have a bit of stand-up in your resume?

SPEAKER_04

Um I think so, you know, that's my own perspective. But you know, nowadays, man, you know, you got the social media world, everybody being successful in their own way. You know, I I like my pal, but I feel like I respect OGs too. I respect the way that they did it. And I ain't, you know, like the Martins, the the Eddie Murphy's, the Red Fox, the Richard Priors, the Bernie Max, you know what I'm saying, the Kings of Comedy, all those guys. It it was real. And, you know, we in New York right now, and this was Def Jam was shot at. You know what I'm saying? That was real deal comedy. And if you call yourself that, I I get why the OGs used to say when they see a social media comedian, oh, they oh, he just did. I I get it. I get it. I get it, because you know, they went through some stuff and they became who they are without that. They had to go through the the trenches to to become and you know, to get their stripes in in the real world. So that's and when I saw that I said, Oh, I get it. But yes, I feel like stand-up give me a different type of respect in the game. So when those guys, like, they they they they are thankful and appreciate, and they they love what I'm what I'm doing. Those people that I name, they they they rock with it. They rock with it.

SPEAKER_01

They do. Um, well, I uh I say this. So you mentioned a few people that I'm uh actually good friends with. What is Lunel?

SPEAKER_04

For sure.

SPEAKER_01

Shout out Funny as a motherfucker. Shout out to Lunel, what's up, baby girl? Uh and then the other is Mike Apps. That's OG. And then um I interviewed Mike. Mike was one of my first interviews that I did. I seen it, I watched it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. One of the people he told me to make sure that I get on the show was Desi Banks. Oh, damn. He was like, yo, bro, I don't know what you're doing, but make sure you get that young boy, Desi Banks, up here. I'm telling you. He got some spark with him. You know, and he was on the tour with, he was on a tour with a with a bunch of funny people and all my guys too, and shit like that. But it stood out to me that he he said your name, because as you know, you were one of my favorites and shit like that. So it was like, how does it feel when you know you got people like that that's mentioning your name in rooms when you're not there?

SPEAKER_04

Like I'm gonna say, well, well, Mike, Mike was the first person to actually put me on a big stage. Mike put me in front of 10 or 15, 20,000 people for the first time. I did 20 shows with him. Scared in the motherfucker. I ain't never, this is my first time ever being on that big stage, but it was like a boot camp. It was like, okay, this is what you want, this is what you're gonna have to go through on this level. You know what I'm saying? So it was like a training thing. Like, I just I could take you through the whole 20, like the first show, I remember it was cool. I they laughed. Second show, it was cool. Then one of his buddies put up to me, he said, hey look, man, hey, if you if you want to do this shit, you gotta you gotta kill him. OG, right, he, you know, you gotta kill him. I remember we went to uh we was in Carolina. We was in Greensboro, yeah, Greensboro. When he told me that, nigga, I went to that show, murdered him. And after after that, every show was boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. We finished 20. That last show, I remember we uh we was in not Memphis, but it was a place close to Memphis. And I went to Mike's room and he told me, he was like, uh, he was like, he was like, shit, you you ain't gotta do this no more. He said, you done did it. Now you go do it. That's why I ain't ever go, I ain't ever go back. That's why I ain't ever go back to do, like I used to give reach out about, you know, we the one. I I ain't ever go back because I remember what he told me. Because he wanted me to go build my own. He wanted me to become my own name. You know what I'm saying? That's why I said, no, I'm gonna build it. Because that's how they did it. That's what they did. That's how they became the household name. You know, they did it that way, and I'm and I listened to that. You know what I'm saying? He gave me, told me, hey man, don't lose yourself. Stay focused on yourself, don't get lost in the south side here. You know what I'm saying? Know what you want and do what you got to do. You already doing it, so keep doing it.

SPEAKER_01

And that's cold because I've been in a few situations like that in my music career. And I believe that's why uh some of the greats that I have great relationships with never really took me under their wing because they knew that I could do exactly what they were doing.

SPEAKER_02

For sure.

SPEAKER_01

You know what I mean? And they they they I've been through my boot camps with a few of them. But they just boot camps. And I'm like, you dig is like, yo, bro, you need to just touch. So when you get people like that, these are the people that you always gotta keep close. Cause like I said, real. Those are big names. These are big names to vouch for you and things like that. Yes, sir. Like big, big fun, like uh motherfucker. Mike Epps is the funniest person in the world, too.

SPEAKER_03

He's original, he's he's yeah, he's he's that motherfucker.

SPEAKER_01

He's in my list. He's he's in he's in my list, like Eddie Murphy, most definitely, uh Red Five, for sure, Richard Pryde, for sure, for sure, Mike Epps, most definitely uh Kevin Hart. Most definitely, uh Authentic, real. Yeah, like the like like you did, like I'm like I'm a real fan of comedy like that. So and it's a it's a it's a it's a bunch of comedians I love all together. You know what I mean? Like Bernie Mack was GOAT Bro Funny, the original. I ain't scared of you motherfuckers. Said the entertainment, the kings of comedy, dig like the queens of comedy, yeah. I love comedy and shit like that. So when I when I see you, you put me in the mind of that, like you know, certain people uh that walk in the room as comedians and they just kind of make you just like, damn, this nigga it just gives you that that feeling. Like I got to, I was at a dinner one time in uh Chow, and one of the managers came down and say it's like yo, um Cav wanna know if he could uh split the room with you, the private room. If you like Kev who you like, Kev Harley. Kuddy and shit. Bro, he came down there to eat food, yeah, and he gave me and my wife the illest comedy show of my life. For the whole three hours we was down there eating, I couldn't even eat, bro. Yeah, with no microphone. I couldn't. I couldn't, I could if we if we could have taped this shit, this should probably have been one of the funniest comedy. I'm told my he cut the fuck up the whole, not not a moment for no, we can't bro. That's what he does. He brings that energy for sure. This is the energy that that you bring in these rooms, and when it comes to being comedian, that's priceless and shit like that. So it's like these are why people are mentioning your names, I believe, because you have that quality of for sure, some of those greats and the way and and to hear you talking about uh how you feel about the stand-up and that comedians should have a bit of that, it's kind of dope. So you always want to do stand-up, or was that just that that came out?

SPEAKER_04

Nah, I know. I um I started off just wanting to be an actor. I was like, man, I'm just gonna do TV and film, and and that's it. But I still want to do comedy, but I knew in order for me to get to that level, I felt like I had to do this in order for me to get in these big movies or whatever it is, because just think every big comedic actor that's right now in this world, like you said, Eddie, Mike Epps, Kevin Hart, uh Richard Pryor, the Purdy Max, the Steve Harveys, Surgeon Entertainers, Eddie Griffins, Eddie Griffin, Jamie Foxx, everybody that got shows in Teeth Martin, they all held that microphone. And they was they that's how they got it, found it. You know, that's how they got it stuck. Like they they held that microphone before they did anything. They proved themselves. You see what I'm saying? And that's like all those big directors and producers used to come to their shows and say, yo, I got this show. I, you know, because they seen their presence and they saw that, oh, I this can be a show. And that's how it was. That you know, so that's what I started doing. I said, oh, well, if I want to be in this and do this, I have to do this. So that's when I became a student. I of course I was watching it, but I was really kind of like running away from it. You know, I was like, I don't want to do that shit, because you know, I was like, I ain't never did this shit. But, you know, I was like, fuck it. I gotta goddamn jump in the water. I gotta go swim. I gotta go, you know what I'm saying, do what I got to do. You feel me? And I did it. I remember my first show, shit, it wasn't the best show, you know what I'm saying? But I had to figure out, okay, I what did it for me is I made one, I made like one person laugh. I said, okay, now I need to figure out some jokes that's gonna make two people laugh, then three people laugh, then four, then oh I bet. And once I got that, I was good. And when I really figured out I said, bruh, I was, of course I write joke, but I'm like, man, just nigga, be yourself. Nigga, be you. Everybody's on stage being a self. Of course they got joke, but that's just joke. But nigga, you really showing your personality, it's really you. Yes, it's you, yes, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01

So that's that's that's that's what a true comedian is. Yeah, you know, it's if it's you, like it's you natural, yeah, it just fits you. Yeah, like you for sure. So, with all that being said, have you have producers or people for movies start to reach out to you?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah, I just did a movie in Africa. I was just in Africa for 32 days. Did a movie called Boys Trip, that international film. That's about to happen. You know what I'm saying? That's about to be crazy. It's like the the boy version of the girl trip. It's like I'm the Tiffany Haddish on the boy side, you know what I'm saying? So I'm bringing that type of energy.

SPEAKER_01

I could I can see that I could definitely see that. Yeah, shout out to you. So how did how did that feel?

SPEAKER_04

Crazy. You know what I'm saying? It gave me a real moment, just especially being in Africa for 32 days doing a movie. It was like, okay, this was like a new beginning for me. It's like okay, it was like a big sacrifice because I had to cancel shows. I had to postpone shows.

SPEAKER_01

And you're getting a lot of money. You know what I'm saying? I had to postpone that. I heard about I I heard about you. Uh, we ain't gonna put it on the money. Yeah, we ain't gonna talk about the money. You sh you you you you you think like you rappers, don't just chill out. When you see that man, this I'm gonna just tell you cool the fuck out when you see that man. Don't don't don't get into that argument with him. You heard like that's come to mind. He's humble. Yeah, no money too. He's humble. No money too. He's he's broke. Oh, yeah. Don't play with him. I promise you, don't play with him. But uh just threw me off with the with the with the nah nah, yeah. But no, I thought it was good. Canceling all them shows, I mean, that's one thing, but yeah, the feeling of actually being able to film your first movie had to be surreal.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, that's yeah, huge. First um movie that was on that level, you know. We had a lot of people come out to watch me on set, Netflix people, Universal, and being alongside of people like Algie Smith and Rome Flynn, you know what I'm saying, acting with these guys. You know, shout out to the the director, Kyle, Autumn Producer. You know what I'm saying? Like these people that believe in me. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01

Opportunity becomes more than actually the money at that point.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, that yeah, because that open this what this finna do is gonna open up so many other doors. Now they're gonna actually see me. Oh, this guy can act for real. Oh, he's he's really like that. And when it comes to movies, that's usually what it is. A lot of people get blow up off movies, you know. Shout out to Tiffany Haddon. A lot of people didn't know who Tiffany had until she did Girls Trip. You know, uh from a lot of people didn't watch Mike H they know who he was until he did Day Day, you know. Even though they was already grinding, but it always takes that one movie. Like Chris Tucker Friday, it always takes that one thing that let the world see who you is. You know what I'm saying? That's what I tell people out there, bro. Keep grinding, bro, because it only takes one. It only takes one thing, but just know what you want. You gotta know what you want. And when you know what you want, just keep working, keep grinding, keep that mindset, bro, and just keep going and put yourself around the right people. You know what I'm saying? That's gonna help you get to that place. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01

And now let's get to these skits. Hell yeah. Let's get to these motherfucking skits. Skits real. I want to get inside the mind of Desi when I'm thinking about how the fuck do I create. One of these sensational viral skits. Yeah. Like when I'm walking in the funeral, or how I go white ears versus black ears, or how I go uh uh airport check-in, or how like what what like what what what what's what's going on in the mind of Desi when you coming up with because it's a production behind it, it's not just like it's it's actual you know what I mean? Like I know a productionist, so yeah. It's not like you just think it's gonna be this you gotta call people, you gotta set this shit up.

SPEAKER_04

It's actually a bit of a mini movie, exactly 100%, and we're different than shit in the long form. Exactly. What I'm saying. And and what you just said, that's that's what we try to present. Like you're doing a mini movie.

SPEAKER_01

You're doing it a lot, though.

SPEAKER_04

So it's like and I'm really just practicing. I'm really when I'm doing these videos, I'm I'm practicing my craft. Like I said, I already know the big the big goal for me. Of course I'm doing skits, but I I've been doing skits since 2012 consistently. So do they just pop up like you drive? Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, we're gonna do it. Man, every every week. I got got well I every week. I already know what I'm doing Monday. I already got it. We already know we're doing. I got it's in the store already. So every week I have something. I shoot either every Tuesday or Wednesday, but I'm shooting Monday because I'm I'm going out of town on Wednesday. So I'm shooting Monday. I already got the producing people getting my my location and everything, you know. But this stuff be from if I see something, or if I, you know, if I'm inspired by, or if I done did it before, or you know, I try to do all relatable shit and just try to create the world that the people already see. You know what I'm saying? Like even when I did, I just did the Chris Brown shit. I just I just stay in tune of what's really going on and just bring that magic. But I'm really like showing the world like the talent, the creativity, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01

That the real thing some of these comedians or social media uh funny people have copied a lot of your style for a shit show. They know it.

SPEAKER_04

They know it. They fucking know it. And it's okay. It's okay. It's okay. No, it's fine, man. Yeah, I I I I started a lot of stuff, but I ain't, you know. You ever get mad? I don't man, I don't even get mad anymore. Ain't no point to get mad, because you know, I it this how I be. I did a lot of stuff back then. Like I did a lot of stuff back then. And I see somebody do it now, and the world will like blow it up. Like it went good back then, but I've been in the game so long. And like, well, they you know, it's it's like I'm like, man, I, you know, ah, you know what I'm saying? So that's how it is like now. They'll do something now, and the world will just make it different. I didn't, it's like I didn't have that wheel party that a person got, you know, right now, as far as like pushing, you know, now we got algorithm, all that shit, you know, it's just it's just different. Even though I I still blew up with it, but it's just like, you know, it I did it first of whatever it is, but it's like, you know, I we ain't really seeing that original way. Yeah, it ain't that in the original. Because it's been done before. It's just people doing it in a in a way or whatever.

SPEAKER_01

People say, do people ever hit you like, yo, you know, you inspired me to get into this funny shit, and you know what I mean? Like, oh it's just it's just it's just it'd be like young, it'd be like young people. But not the people that stealing.

SPEAKER_04

Nah, you know, they ain't gonna do that. And then the people that do that, that do that, you know, they may see me and they don't wanna, you know, you know how it is, man. And I'm cool. I man, I well, I fuck with you, but I want to be cool, boy. Let's be cool. Let's be friends.

SPEAKER_01

So have you done any collabs with any of these people? Have you ever found yourself, or would you do a collab with any of these people that you see that you feel like?

SPEAKER_04

Man, I do collabs with anybody, man. If I feel like it could be something, yes. But it's do they want to collab with me?

SPEAKER_01

I mean shit, I don't see why not. This is what all the all the greats have been doing throughout these years. Nah, for sure. Nah, for sure. And yeah, with the kings of comedy is how you end up with, like, you know what I mean? So it's like, and you're in a new wave of comedy also, so it's like you get the best of both worlds from it, the way you've been speaking. Uh, you've been in the game for a long time, so you seem to understand what the older uh comedians have gone through the better. Most definitely the path, the path they have made, um, paving the way and shit like that. But as time goes on, things do get easier. So you got the benefits of being able to use social media to your advantage for sure way more than they have.

SPEAKER_04

Most definitely. You know what I mean? And it yeah, it's on that level. But no, I I would I would like to collab with a few people. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01

Without the people, let's let's forget all about the top three collabs, anybody, actors, commit or comedians, top three collabs right now.

SPEAKER_04

Don't matter, they don't worry about social media. No, this is top three collabs right now. Who I would do something with right now. I want to do something with Michael B. Jordan. Michael B. Yep, I'm gonna do something with Michael B. I done hit I done DM'd him a few times. He got so he, you know what I mean? You know I wanna do something. This is a young guy. I want to do something with speed.

SPEAKER_01

Yo, I fuck with speed. I wanna I wanna do something with speed.

SPEAKER_04

The streamer.

SPEAKER_01

That nigga just did some free fall shit the other day. His whole body locked up and shit like that.

SPEAKER_04

I know he came to he came to the A. I put this something with him, but it ended up not working out. But I like I'm a big fan. I'll be in that nigga DM. Like, not like a groupie, but I'd be like, hey nigga, I'm a fan of his. I fuck with my boy. I'm gonna do it.

SPEAKER_01

Just watching how you're moving around the world and you and using and using that streaming.

SPEAKER_04

I want to do some WWE shit with that nigga. You know, he on that SmackDown show right now.

SPEAKER_01

It's like he can't do he's nothing he can't do. Now that nigga, except the physical, he's going, he's definitely, he's doing everything. He's boxing people in the middle of the street, he's back flipping, he's racing people on foot. He's wrestling bears, alligators, yeah. Yeah, he's like this far, fight the lion. That nigga different. 100%. He got it. He fucking definitely has a fucking hard work. He's making a shitload of money at a very young age. Nah, he's good.

SPEAKER_04

I like speed. Um, who else I would I would want to work with? Um, we need uh man, Drewski, man. We man Drewski need to do something for the culture, man. I want to go and shit that down. I wasn't gonna say that. Yeah, I want to, I wanna I want to go ahead and his name up, but see you still I want to go ahead and shit it down, man. Ding ding ding ding ding. Shout out to that boy, man. Let's go. He's doing great things. I just hit him up yesterday. I just saw him got the hosting for BET.

SPEAKER_00

White, light skinned, black.

SPEAKER_01

You be everything, Drewski. Come on, come on, man.

SPEAKER_04

He's doing his fucking thing, bro. Uh, he just he finna be the host for the BET Awards, fire shit, dope shit, man. That shit hard. I was like, bro, that you killing it. I text him. I was like, yo, I fuck with this. I fuck with it. Yeah, I was like, bro, yeah, I fuck with this. And I'm like, bro, and he was just like, yeah, he's trying to open the doors for it. I was like, hell yeah, man, you you doing it. You know what I'm saying? Like you getting opportunities that motherfuckers ain't getting. So you go do it, and you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01

Y'all definitely need the I believe in Atlanta, y'all are definitely on the top.

SPEAKER_04

And I want to talk about that list. I gotta say this, I gotta talk about the I'm going back to the complex shit too. I gotta talk about the complex shit too. They made a list, right? I gotta just go and get my version out. You remember that? They made a list, right? And they talked about, they put me as like number seven or number eight. I can't remember what it was. In Atlanta? No, it was like a complex list of like comedians, right? Comedians, uh whatever, right? And uh Drewski was number one, right? And I just said, This ain't had nothing to do with Drewski. I just said, I said, uh, damn, I guess I gotta do better because I seen the person that had number one, I seen number two, number three, and these people that these four forget Drewski. These two, three, four, five, six, seven, eights. I mean, I don't even know, they don't even do because I don't even know where they come from where they even created it. You see what I'm saying? Which, hey, I get what you know I'm saying. But if we're gonna talk about consistently doing stuff, hey man, let's talk about that. Like we got with the numbers, all that, that's been, you know what I'm saying? Because complex ain't ever gave me flyers or even said anything. I mean, when I've been doing this for years, right? But and I, like I said, let me just say, I I tweeted, I said something like that, and people blew it up, and I was just like, damn, I guess I gotta do better. I guess I I ain't doing enough to be close to if not number one uh or whatever it is, right? And I said that, and people thought I was fucking shooting, shooting shots at it. I just said, bro, and as a person that I grind like this, I grind for real for this, and I really do comedy for real.

SPEAKER_01

And you ain't even say, like, yo, that number one spot should be mine.

SPEAKER_04

Come on, I didn't say that. I'm the you know, I'm the I'm the one, not the two.

SPEAKER_01

You could say you're gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_04

I didn't say none of that, and the world twisted like I was hating on the nigga, bro.

SPEAKER_01

That's what social media is there for, bro. You know what I'm saying? Bro, I go viral for anything. I went, I, I, I I was eating a banana the other day. That shit is that shit damn near on all moves channels, bro. Like, it's it's it's no fucking way around it. They built they they be racing this shit back here. They built to twist everything, like you did. So you can't make nobody happy in this shit, especially not on social media. Like, they they they only want to see the buttons. And I be I be wanting bro to be cool too when he sees my. I want to see you and Drewski. I be telling them, they be cool, nigga. Listen to me, listen to me. You and Drewski need to do the movie. That'd be crazy. Y'all need to do the Eddie Murphy, Nick Naughty. Y'all need to do that type of real funny, funny, funny. Yo, bro, yo, I think that if you and him figure out a way to do a movie together on some comedy shit and get the essence of how the movie used to be with comedy, y'all niggas gonna smash like the the everything.

SPEAKER_04

Nah, for sure.

SPEAKER_01

Everything believed that. Y'all, y'all, y'all are very dear to my heart when it with when it comes to the funnies.

SPEAKER_04

Uh and juice, when you see me out there, nigga, I love you. Stop. Hey, nigga, talk to me, nigga. We good, baby. We good, my nigga. Don't be acting like that, bro. You you you got hey nigga, you killing. You killing, nigga. You killing, nigga. You killing. Come on, Juicy.

SPEAKER_01

Let's get this, let's get this, let's get this together.

SPEAKER_04

He's he's killing. He's killing, man. So yeah, him. And even the stand-up, I'm gonna tell my nigga Mojo, man. He's on fire too with stand-up, bro. So Mojo, what's up, man? Mojo, bro, yeah. We gotta get this, we gotta get these collabs together. Yeah, so it's it's it's on the way, though. A lot of great stuff on the way, but I just wanted to put that out there. I love every comedian, bruh. I ain't got nothing against none of y'all niggas. None of y'all. I fuck with all y'all. Fuck what you heard, nigga. I fuck with you. I need to have that attitude.

SPEAKER_01

I fuck with almost all y'all rappers. I fuck with I fuck with almost almost all y'all. You heard me? Let me stop. Let me stop. I'm just jokes. I fuck with all y'all. But uh top five comedians, your favorites.

SPEAKER_04

Top five? Eddie Murphy, Richard Pryor, Richard Pryor, Martin, Martin, Bernie Mack, Bernie Mack.

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Damn.

SPEAKER_01

Be careful, because if you if you I know it. If if if I'm about to hit you with something after this, I'm gonna see what you say.

SPEAKER_04

Mike Epps.

SPEAKER_01

All right, Mike Epps, that's your five. That's your five. Yeah, but it's more, but I hate when it goes high. It's cool, that's cool. No, you ain't gotta worry about that. That's your five. But that's all males. So none of the females qualifying that five. It's some funny bitches out there.

SPEAKER_04

It is. Samoa. Pardon me. Samoa, Lou Neo, Monique.

SPEAKER_01

Um's been, Samore's, listen, shout out to Samoa. You've been a beautiful black queen for since I can remember. He's been cooking niggas since since I've been younger. She gave me game.

SPEAKER_04

I did show to her back in the day too. She gave me game too. She's dope. She's dope. She's dope.

SPEAKER_01

Shout out to all the female comedians out there that I love to watch. Shout out to all the.

SPEAKER_04

I like Dion Cole too. He's fire. Crazy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So was there like uh so it was like in rap, you like um you got your favorite MCs for different reasons, and then some of them are the cadence, some of them are all the rap style, just like the basketball. Some people like drawing and take bits and pieces of the game. So uh those comedians you take took bits and pieces of like the aura coming up, or those are like yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Especially Eddie and uh Richard from like storytelling, and just them telling their life stories, you know, Bernie Mac too, just them telling the truth of they they they self, just being black. Ain't that like being black is just telling your truth of your life, because that that's what sticks forever. That shit sticks forever.

SPEAKER_01

Have you have you have you watched uh Eddie Murphy's stand-ups?

SPEAKER_04

Oh, did I? Delirious. What? Come on, man, Raw, what?

SPEAKER_01

Come on, man.

SPEAKER_04

Ice cream, what?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, for sure. Yeah, those. All right, so when it came to Raw, I snuck in the movie theater, uh Cross County Mall, maybe 1986. Look up when look up the year the movie Raw came out. I'm gonna tell you how old I was. When you had the purpose, that's a purple suit. Yes, that's a purple suit. So we snuck in the back door. You know when the when the movies let out, people come out, everybody coming out the back door, we would run in while they're coming out. Then we go hiding in the seats until the movie. 1986. What I said, 86.

SPEAKER_04

I wouldn't even thought of yet.

SPEAKER_01

I was crazy as it I was 10 when I snuck into that movie. So you snuck in while people was coming out, hit on the movie starter, sat in the seat, and man, I've never laughed so hard in my life at 10 years old. So that's one of my absolutely most funny movies. Uh nigga kept them leather, them leather suits on, man. Nah, I didn't. Yeah, tight leather suits. Eddie Murray is one of my favorite actors of all time, not just comedians. Like he must have this. For sure, for sure. Legends. And he's one of the richest comedians ever. Documentary was crazy. No, ever. I don't like to say numbers, but it was they put like they put like three, four of the top comedians all in one, and they was like, boy, that nigga doubles with it. Like that nigga is that nigga made tremendous comedian business moves.

SPEAKER_04

Everybody knows he to go. Everybody knows he to go. Even the comedians that's my OGs know he to go. You got to meet him before? I did. I went to his premiere. How was that? Daddy prepared. Oh my god. But let me tell you something. I was nigga, I was so nervous. I like boy, this shit crazy. And it was quick too. It was quick. I was like, nigga, hey, I told my my nigga with the phone, I said, nigga, take this picture fast. Because I say he moving quick. That shit with that. I wanted to talk to him. That nigga wasn't talking. That nigga didn't say shit to me. But you know, he's like, hey, how you doing? He did say something. He's like, hey, hey, how you doing? Uh-uh. I was just trying to tell him what I do or whatever it was. About about seven seconds. Good seven seconds. So just to be in his presence was like, damn. Hey, introduction.

SPEAKER_01

Make sure he remembered you. Most definitely. So do you still you st you still you still get some of that nervous feeling when you see some some of your favorites? Uh or have you met all of them already?

SPEAKER_04

I met Martin. I met Eddie. I think Eddie might, Eddie might have been that one that I was like, boy, this shit crazy. But when I when I was coming up, when I met Mike, it was a thing though. Even when I met Kev, I was like, boy, this shit crazy. So I always I had that feeling for all of them. For real. But Eddie was like, boy, boy, ain't no goddamn way. I can't wait. Yeah, I want to sit down and talk to Eddie. I don't know how I can make that. I just want to sit there and listen to him and he give me game. Because I feel like I can do exactly what Eddie did. I can do it. I can do not say no Eddie Murphy, but I can do exactly what Eddie Eddie did. From voices, from characters, from acting. I think I can do exactly some of the things. I'm just saying I'm Eddie Murphy. I ain't got damn Eddie Murphy.

SPEAKER_02

I don't want nobody to say, yo, you think you're Eddie Murphy? I'm just saying I'm looking. I'm just saying, look here. If we're gonna goddamn, yeah, look here. I can do some of the stuff he did. I can do some of the stuff what he did. And I feel like I'm gonna tell you the truth. I feel like I'm in this generation right now. I'm here right now, and I feel like I can do whatever you want me to do. I can change. I can I'ma just stop.

SPEAKER_04

There's a lot of stuff I can do, man. And one day the world's gonna see a lot of stuff. And I'm humbled, and I'm just waiting till they understand.

SPEAKER_01

I think they're gonna get, I think they I think they're gonna understand. We need to get you under humble in a humble way. An apprenticeship with Eddie Murphy, I think that'll be. I do a lot of characters.

SPEAKER_04

Eddie inspired me with a lot of characters I do right now that I create, and a lot of people see the characters on my page. A lot of stuff that I create right now is what I'm building a foundation for. I got a sitcom coming out with BTM Paramount. Dope. That's already bought. You know, we just working the pilot out right now. Fuck it. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01

I gotta that's where this is where it starts.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, it starts right here. I got the project. I'm working on with Rob Hardy right now. You know what I'm saying? Big everybody knows Rob Hardy. Everybody knows, you know what I'm saying, what he did, but we we're working on that right now. Um I got a film that I'm about to produce on my own called Eastside. Feature film. Crazy. Insane. So I got stuff that's lined up that I just can't wait for the world to see. And we're moving towards those goals, man. But I know, you know, a lot of stuff takes. And I mean, I had to learn that, man. Especially in this generation, because the world, especially social media, it'll make you feel like, boy, you're losing it. Well, you be behind because you be seeing so much success from other people. And the world will blow up.

SPEAKER_01

It looked like it though.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, you know what I'm saying? The world will blow up something, and the world will shift to that. And I'm like, damn. Well, y'all, what the fuck happened? Well, goddamn.

SPEAKER_01

Quickly.

SPEAKER_04

You gotta say, but y'all nigga, hell on, man. What the hell going on? I'm still here. I'm still working. You ain't gotta leave me to go over that. You can still fuck him, you can fuck him. You can fuck with everybody. Because back in the day, the high war, they were fucking with everybody. That's how it became all these legends. It wasn't just one. Everybody was something.

SPEAKER_01

Do you have uh do you have a favorite skit that you did? What was your favorite skit to do?

SPEAKER_04

My favorite skit that I ever did. Damn. My favorite skit that I ever did. Man. I done did so many. Probably twiggle, twigger. That was so simple. That was what that was the vine days.

SPEAKER_01

We gotta make sure we put that inside of this.

SPEAKER_04

That was a legend day, that was tweaker, tweaker. I came, it was six seconds. I came outside and I felt like the birds was, I never heard birds. I don't know what was going on with the birds. I don't know why they was tweaking like that. I don't, I don't know why. But I felt like I wanted to figure out what it was. And I felt like I needed to join a conversation to actually be a part of something that was so serious. And I walked out and I said, I said, damn, them birds talk. Because I probably walked out and I heard them. I said, Oh, I gotta create something out there. I said, These birds chirping. I went back in the house and I came out, it was still chirping.

SPEAKER_00

And I said, trying to get trying to talk to you, because I'm like, I ain't never heard birds talk like that.

SPEAKER_04

You ain't just heard birds just tweak, bro. That'll have you tripping. Can you imagine that 500 birds over there? They tweak, tweet, tweet. You like, what the fuck going on over there? Big thing. It's like a bird cookout or some shit. A family reunion going on over there. You like, what the fuck going on, man? That shit, man, that shit was crazy as hell. That shit was crazy. But no, I think that's one of my, and I did that a while, while ago. But I've done a lot of crazy videos that's up the part now.

SPEAKER_01

You think they ever come to a point where you'll stop doing skits?

SPEAKER_04

Um, like I said, shit. I think that's the goal. I mean, I do them now, just you know, but once you start doing the movies, you too big, once you get to that level, that's the inspiration. That you you done got there. You doing movies, you doing TV shows, you doing big stand-up shows, now you got you on Netflix doing stand-up special. You done did, you, you, you, you show people it can work.

SPEAKER_01

But don't you think that you've created an avenue uh and a lane through social media that have made you money? For sure. Have you become personal to people that look forward to seeing you on the stuff?

SPEAKER_04

No, for sure. I probably still do some stuff just for that.

SPEAKER_01

I think that you should always keep that. For sure, most definitely going. I think it's maybe not as maybe you don't do it as much as you used to, but I still put something out there. Most definitely always look forward to that's facts. That little bit of humor that doesn't come with nothing, the cousin doesn't come with attached to anything, no, not just personal direct, like yo, you know what? I'm gonna give the people a treat. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04

No, that's real. That's real. Hell yeah. That's real. Most definitely. I did. And I hey shout out to my supporters. That's been down with me. I wouldn't be shit without y'all. Y'all helped me get to who I am today. I appreciate y'all. You think facts.

SPEAKER_01

You think some of the stuff that you do is too risque? You ever feel like some of the stuff could get you canceled? Do you worry? Yeah, yeah, I done got canceled, man.

SPEAKER_04

I done got canceled. Man, I done got I done had motherfuckers create fake stories about me and everything, man. And look, let me tell you something. This massage shit going on too. I won't put that out there. You ever heard of the masard?

SPEAKER_01

What's from like overseas?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. So somebody tried to say I was I was working with Massad. Fuck me up. They had this shit on Twitter to say I was a Massad agent and shit like that. I didn't know what the fuck it was.

SPEAKER_01

Trying to get you wrapped up with Trump and them, huh? Wrapped up.

SPEAKER_04

And look at let me tell you something, it was so fucked up. When I didn't even know this was like a whole thing. When they when they say I was with Masad, I'm thinking Massad was a whole dude. And I'm like, who the f where the fuck this nigga Masad at? I'm like, where the fuck Masad at? I'm like, why the fuck he trying to get? And then they had a picture of this shit, and I'm thinking, like, oh, that's the nigga Massad. I'm telling my time, like, bro, we need to find him, cause he put me in some shit, then I don't even know what the fuck I'm what is going on. I don't I didn't even know who the fuck Masala was, cuz somebody used my LLC. I don't know how the fuck they use my shit to do some some ads. This shit was serious. Motherfucker thought I was working with Masad. Me, out of all people, me, you think I work with they said I took seven thousand dollars. I said, What the seven thousand to work with massad. To work with massad. For seven thousand. I'm finna go work with massad. For seven thousand. A nigga that I don't even know. I ain't never seen her. This nigga ain't took no picture with me and nothing. That's a cold. What a contract at. Where the shit at? Cold nigga. Massada.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_04

That's just fuck. That's the fuck with me. I had to go get a cyber security dude. I thought niggas was after me.

SPEAKER_01

I thought niggas I couldn't sleep. I couldn't sleep. I couldn't sleep for three days. How the fuck would they get you wrapped up in your bro?

SPEAKER_04

I couldn't sleep for three days. I thought somebody was after me. I thought I was a part of some shit. Then niggas start bringing up videos I did with Wallow and Gillett. Talking about that he come to your door. I'm like, man, I don't know what the fuck y'all talking about, man. It had to be fucked up. My teacher said I was saying that. I'm like, man, I'm trying, I gotta killing me over here on Twitter. They killing me. I gotta say something. Masada, where you at, nigga? Pull up. You gotta clear this shit up, nigga. You at the you is, nigga. Pull up. That shit fuck me. I'm calling them a homeboy and shit. They let they think the shit funny. I'm like, nigga, these niggas trying to get us.

SPEAKER_00

That me. Us, nigga. Remember, it's us. We got we in this shit together now. They got the meeting after you too, nigga.

SPEAKER_04

I'm all at the LLC. Um, try to figure out I'm talking to these niggas, man. Y'all see, y'all know what this is. They like, we don't know what it is. I'm like, man, this some bullshit. This some bullshit. This some this was the most crazy shit ever, bro. And we try to hit up Google. They say they we Google when get back to us. Bro, I it was this the weirdest shit. And I hate that shit. And people believe with that shit, and they ran with that shit. And that shit, the internet is fucked up. It's fucked up. They told me I was a massage.

SPEAKER_01

The internet is a wild place. The wildest place in the world is the internet, bro.

SPEAKER_04

It's stupid. It's still it's dumb as fuck. You got kids? I got two of them. That's why would I risk my life with massad? And I got two fucking kids. Two babies, too.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I'm baby. They don't really know how funny you are as yet. I guess not. I don't fucking know. How old are the kids? Two and five. So they don't really know how funny. They don't.

SPEAKER_04

Nah. He be trying. He be looking at shit, but nah. They don't know. Not yet. They done been at my son been the shows. But he just be looking. You know, he's like, what the fuck you doing? He thinks that shit normal. Nigga, I'm risking my life. Nigga, I am doing this for you, motherfucker. She bagged, goddamn no. You know? Oh shit. Yeah, man. This shit crazy.

SPEAKER_01

Having kids to change your life. How did it change your life when you had your first kid?

SPEAKER_04

Um, boy, it for sure changed my mindset. It put me in a whole nother structured place. You know what I'm saying? And um me having minds, it allowed me to want to be in my my son life, you know, more than not nothing wrong about it. I shot shot at my pops, you know what I'm saying? But I want to do something different with mine. You know what I'm saying? I wanted to, you know. Did you have a relationship with your pops? Nah, yeah, we cool. Hell yeah. We me and pops cool. We cool. We cool.

SPEAKER_01

I didn't get to have a relationship with people.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, we cool. We we cool. Like, you know, we cool. He did what he did, you know. Um, I ain't gonna lie, I I'm gonna be on, I don't know what it feels like to have a pops. You see what I'm saying? I ain't never had a dad take me to the park, take me to the pop shot. You see what I'm saying? But down the line, you know what I'm saying? Fuck you know, man, I it's all good. I I know what was going on. You feel me? Yeah, that and that's uh that's that's yeah, I ain't tripping.

SPEAKER_01

That's dope. Yeah, I wish I could, I wish I could uh be able to down the line and say that to my pops, but I I I get to get that.

SPEAKER_04

But he he getting a second chance to raise my kid, like now he pop on now. And I hey man, I appreciate that. You doing it, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

He's going overly like that's what my grandkids is.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, what my grandkids. Nigga ain't never say what my son. I fought with you, you ain't gonna say what my son at.

SPEAKER_00

Nigga said, man, don't make me fight you with him, man. I'm just trying to listen, nigga.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, man. Well, that's good though, man. It's good to it's good to see that you're you're a family man, and yeah, these are the things that that keep you fueled and shit like that.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So you got movies done. You done met your idols, top comedian out here.

SPEAKER_04

Now I just want to work with them now. I want to work with them. I want to do something with Mike. I want to do something with Kev. I want to do something with Eddie. Like, they can do it. I'm gonna say you can do it. You can put me in something you doing. You know, I you know, I work with Mike with stand up, but I'm saying like production movies and stuff. Like, if anything that you got, I would love to just do it to put that on my, you know, my check that, check that off my list.

SPEAKER_01

Now a lot of comedians Martin allows guys. A lot of comedians talk about their comedy comes from their personal.

SPEAKER_04

Yep.

SPEAKER_01

Is that the same for you?

SPEAKER_04

Yes, it is. Everything that I talk about, I either been through it, I either saw it. You know what I'm saying? Yes. It's that for sure.

SPEAKER_01

When you look at these situations, some of them are very serious. How the fuck do you find the comedy in it?

SPEAKER_04

Shit, like Kev said, you gotta laugh at your pain. Bring it to light. I mean, the truth, it hurt, but it's the truth. And that's what people want to. To be honest, people laugh at it because they they done been through it. They done been through the same thing that they that you're talking about. That's why they laugh at it. Like, damn, I die with the same way. Damn, you remind me of this person. Damn, you remind me of my grandma, you remind me of my cousin. Damn, you remind me of my homeboy. That's what, bro, that's what made comedy. Every legend talk about real shit. It's what they done seen have been. It's the realest shit. That's what make that shit be. That's what makes it unique. That's how legends make songs, that's how you made rap music. You'll you might went through some shit. You probably done beat a nigga ass or something. But you, man, fuck, I'm finna put this shit on the track. You had that why that bitch become a hit. That damn, nigga, feel that more. That shit crazy. You know what I'm saying? So that's how I try to, you know, do my comedy.

SPEAKER_01

The beauty in comedy to me is to be able to sit back and watch every single person in that room laugh, no matter what color they are, if they're a gangster, if they're a worker, if they're a killer, if they're you know what I mean? You watch everybody laughing all on one accord about something that they feel funny. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Get to take time out from everything else that's going on in the world and going in one place and expecting to have a good time. For sure. You know what I mean? Like it's beauty in that because outside of that, everybody's going through what they're going through. You know what I mean? So as comedians, as funny as it may seem, you'll have a hell of a responsibility when you get on that stage.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, we do.

SPEAKER_01

Because you get on that stage and see a whack comedian, it's asked to the shit that you've been going through outside. Like, the fuck I came in this shit for instigating.

SPEAKER_04

This nigga's trash and big big. And I just feel like niggas ain't being themselves when they do that. Or they are being themselves and they find out who he is for real.

SPEAKER_01

You know, you've been in a show where you see some comedians you may know that's get up there and it's not like, bro.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. And I think it'd be sometimes it'd be the type of crowds that you have. Like, I know my crowd. I know the comedians that they like, I know what they want to hear. You know what I'm saying? But I got a diverse crowd as well. But I just feel like sometimes you just gotta bring it with different crowds, bro. You can't, some people may be over here too long. And when you come over here, like you done been over there too long, and boy, you come in this fire, boy. This shit's seer. That shit's seer.

SPEAKER_01

Jess Hilarious said something to me the other day when I was interviewing her. She was like, um, and I don't know this for everybody, but she was like, uh, we was talking about like the cancel culture and all that. She was like, she had to learn the difference between the things she performed for her crowd and the rants that she put on social media. For sure. You know what I mean? She's like, social media kinds of automatically push you in a cancel clause. But if these things that's on your mind, uh you said you're pain and you turn it into laughter and she expresses them at her show, people don't hold her, uh hold it against her like they would if she's saying on social media.

SPEAKER_04

Because social media have a world of people for that. Like when I was talking about like Twitter, which was X Down, bro, they they have a world where they want to see everybody. It's a community that they want to see you do. I don't get it. They just want to see some fucked up shit. Like anything, you could be killing. You could be killing everywhere else. From Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, TikTok, but boy, over here, boy, this shit is a world. I don't get it. That shit is like that's a nigga shit over there. And you fuck with it, but it's like it nigga shit, but it like, man, them people that they ain't really doing shit for themselves. They they couldn't even really do half of the shit that we doing in this world. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01

Do you separate the do you do you put different uh comedy or do you do different comedy to your shows than you do on social media? Yeah, yeah, no, the show shit different.

SPEAKER_04

The show shit is actually my stand-up show is actually Desi Banks. You see, I I've I've I've created the world on social media because I've learned what they like. I know what y'all want. I know what the algorithm wants. So I create these scenarios and these different things of this what I built, this this what I want. But what then I may say I got a show here. They be like, I ain't never seen him do stand-up. I know his skits funny, but then they come to the show, they like, oh shit. Damn, this nigga is. Now you done seen me now. You see Desi Banks now. Now you see the person that's on that level now. You know what I'm saying? And when I'm creating these things, like these skits or whatever it is, I'm actually like trying to get y'all to a place in your mind, like, yo, I'm I'm going for these movies, man. I'm this I'm going to this level. But it takes, it takes people to some people know I have fans that love me. There's so many people. And it's more of those people that love me than hate me, that dislike me. So I always salute the people that fuck with me. You know what I'm saying? So it's a different world. But you can't get lost in that world. And that world can be here because we, everybody in the world, we always let that. You can have a thousand boy that's fire comments. But it's always that one motherfucking comment that it tricked every goddamn it.

SPEAKER_01

Fuck you right up. I'm the block master. I will block it as fast as you can like. That shit be stupid. My whole brain algorithm up off of one comment. But that shit bitch ass nigga.

SPEAKER_04

Nigga, shut the fuck up. Just be like everybody else, man. Damn, it's fire.

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It's fire.

SPEAKER_04

Niggas be like, oh, you thought that shit was hot. Like, fuck you, nigga. Where you living at, nigga? How your house look? Where your hoe at pussy, nigga.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Bro, you know, you just can't live in that world and let that shit beat you up. Cause they're gonna always do that, no matter what. They, man, I done seen, and I learned, I done seen so many rappers and everybody go through it, but guess what? I don't see them ever stop. Hey, let that shit and they just keep going. And I say, and that's what you gotta do. Fuck it. Keep going. Keep putting that shit out. Keep doing your thing, man. Don't let hey, don't get lost in that sauce.

SPEAKER_01

I don't wanna keep you too long, but in your journey thus far, you have done a lot. I know there's probably some things that you probably thought you should have done. Do you regret anything? Would you change anything?

SPEAKER_04

Uh, would I change anything? Nah, man. Nah. Because everything that I've been through, it made me who I am today. And I needed to go through it. And it's like God is preparing me for where I'm going. If I would have never gone through what I went through, I wouldn't, I wouldn't have survived when I got there. I want to survive. And I want to survive when I get there. When these big movies and this shit come up and it's I I get to this level, I went through some stuff. I got a story to tell. I can I can I can talk to, I can inspire people. A lot of people just blow up and boy, it's they ain't, they ain't, it ain't no story to it. It's just like they just shit, but no, I'm gonna have, I'm gonna be able to talk and make people feel it.

SPEAKER_01

So when is your when is your comedy special coming on next time? It's coming.

SPEAKER_04

It'll be it'd be it'll be soon. I ain't gonna say this year, but it's it's it's no, it's yeah, it's it's gonna come. And it's gonna be special though. I need to be special.

SPEAKER_01

I need to definitely be in attendance comedy special because I know that it's gonna be very dope. I think I want to be there. I feel like it'll be like Aurora, like the people that got the witness uh Murphy and Raw or Richard Pryor. Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_03

It will.

SPEAKER_01

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03

Like it will, it will, it will, it will.

SPEAKER_01

Is there anything else you would like the people to know? Uh anything you got going on? Anything you need to direct the attention to?

SPEAKER_04

I mean, just know, hey, hey, man, your boy Des is here. And you know, uh shout out to the people that support me, that's been rocking with me. Um, I love everybody. I love everybody. I want to get that energy out there, bro. I want to get rid of that in this world, man. You know, I fuck with everybody. I fuck with everybody. So, you know, um, let's all just keep building. If you want to fuck with me, you don't. Hey, man, it is what it is. I still love you, and we're gonna keep building, we're gonna keep rocking. Hey, man, let's continue to tap into purpose. You know what I'm saying? And be the new of this generation, man. Be the new of this fucking generation, baby, because that's what it is, baby. And the OGs, they love to see us doing great things. For sure.

SPEAKER_01

Being said, I'm glad to have you step by, man. I'm I'm very appreciative of your company, Pause. You seem to be a smart, a smart young man, not just funny, and that's dope. Um, you know, I like to sit down and talk about regular shit. I mean, give people a little backstory. Yeah, um, we got a hell of a journey. I learned a lot that I didn't know, especially been to college, football, graduated college, and I think.

SPEAKER_04

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_01

Um actually funny, man. Today's been good. Um that being said, here, I got a gift. I gotta I gotta pay uh dipset glasses for that.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, that's how I need that.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, I gotta pull them out. Hold on. Um, with that being said, uh, this has been another episode of Artist to Artist. Uh we like to say this is a conversation that needs to be had. This is brought to you by Playmaker. If the plays don't get made, we don't get paid, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you, Desi Banks, for stopping through. We catch you in the next one.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, gee, I appreciate it, baby. Yes, sir. That's hard. That's hard. I appreciate that.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, sir. That was the thumbnail show.