"Artist 2 Artist" hosted by Jim Jones
Dipsets own Jim Jones, sits down with Artist on his own new podcast "Artist 2 Artist" where they deep dive into culture, music industry & experiences.
"Artist 2 Artist" hosted by Jim Jones
Ep 25: Yung Bleu
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Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Artists to Artists, where we say this is a conversation that needs to be had. Um today's episode, I have a very special guest. All my guests are special, you know that. Welcome, Blue. Blue Vandros. Is that's I is that am I right with that? Uh huh. That's how they say it? That's that's your nickname. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That Monday night. How you feeling, my brother? I'm good.
SPEAKER_01Good.
SPEAKER_00You good? Yeah, yeah. Very talented, very talented. If you don't know about this young man, uh, he's been in the game for some years now, uh, a little bit younger than I am. Um put major hits on the scoreboard. Um, Billboard hits, hits with some of the biggest artists you could imagine. Um, I don't know if I should uh put you in the category of uh RB singer or a rapper or I don't know how to categorize you because I seen that you do both very well.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, just um I don't know, artists, whatever they call it. I don't be be really caring for real.
SPEAKER_00What what is it that you started with? Was it rap or was it?
SPEAKER_01I really started like in like in the rap. Like I really was like a street rapper, like a uh Southern street rapper when I first started.
SPEAKER_00Like uh So what made you s what what made you switch to the to the harmonizing?
SPEAKER_01Well, I was harmonizing, but I was harmonizing like street street shit. So uh back in like 2016 to like 2018, I was dropping this project called Investments, um, like on Spin Rilla back when like Spin Real and my mixtapes and stuff was dropping. Um and uh yeah, I was just dropping on there. My shit was blowing up on there. I had like the biggest tapes on Spin Rilla platform. And I started blowing up from there. And then um I was doing shows in like Mississippi and stuff like that. And I just started like popping on a you know on the street scene, and then I had dropped the RB song called Miss It. And that's when like I just blew up. I don't know what what happened. I just I don't even consider RB.
SPEAKER_00That's what we're so have you have you sung before when you were younger, maybe no, no? Nah, I ain't used to sing for real. I just used to so then so then you you do this record and now you starting to tap into nigga because you singing.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you I ain't know what it was. Like I went, I ain't go in the studio like, okay, I'm gonna sing on this record. I'm just like, whatever just come to my mind, but that's what they perceived it as me rap singing or whatever, you know what I'm saying? So when I put the record out, you know, it went crazy. So I was just like, oh, the females really fucking with me hard, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_00And that's how you get your bag inside of this game, is if you have the females fucking with you, because yeah, whatever the females listen to, niggas gonna listen to, you know, music and shit like that. So I started. So do you so now you just consider yourself like what? Do you do you consider yourself a singer?
SPEAKER_01RB singer? Like I really don't though, because I be singing, but I don't really be that shit just be coming from the heart, man. I don't even know what to call it. Because I don't consider myself an RB singer because like if I just, if you just told me sang right now, Blue, you couldn't. I couldn't do it. Like I I could harmonize, you know what I'm saying, but I can write a write a hit, you know what I'm saying? I could write a hit and sing it, you know what I'm saying, and make it a song if I get in the studio, you know what I'm saying? But I can't necessarily blow out the hitting no notes and all that type of shit. I ain't going crazy with the notes, so I would, you know, would I consider myself a singer? You could the thing of it is it's like, okay, do you consider yourself a singer? Yes, but do you consider yourself a good singer? No.
SPEAKER_00I mean, well, you could be a singer without being a good thing. You 100%, but you make some great songs, so I think that smashes those other two out the out the box. Like, I don't know, however, you figure out you you and this is crazy because I never even I wouldn't think that you would would say that. Like, I would I like this is crazy. I I really thought that like you was gonna say, like, yo, you know when I was young in the church, used to sing in the church with my moms and shit like that. Like, because that's what you're giving off with some of these records. Like, you like you can feel the pain, you can feel the passion. It's like, yeah, but now sitting here like now I started rapping, I just started that. That's kind of dope. So where are you from?
SPEAKER_01I'm from Alabama, Mobile, Alabama.
SPEAKER_00Mobile, Alabama, yeah. Born and raised. Yep. How the music scene out there? Is it tough out there? Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01It was tough. Um, you did a song with uh Rich Boy from out there. Yeah, the Richmond guy. Yeah, Rich Boy from out there. Um, we got some artists now that's popping doing their thing right now. You know what I'm saying? We got uh, you know, Ralo, Cap, uh Honeycomb Brazer, uh Was it was it easy for you to find to break that mold of notoriety from coming from?
SPEAKER_00No, it's no hell nah. That shit was hard.
SPEAKER_01That shit was impossible.
SPEAKER_00How long you been doing music?
SPEAKER_01Uh yeah, since I was like 13, 14, for real.
SPEAKER_00You got some years in it. Yeah. How long you've been, would you say you professionally been doing music?
SPEAKER_01Professionally, I say professionally. I don't know what to consider professionally.
SPEAKER_00Like when you signed, got some money, start making some some some money, your life started changing. Like uh, I play like 2016. 2016. So you've been in for about a 10 years right now? Yeah, I'm I'm I'm in that motherfucker. You said 10 years is is it takes 10 years to have an overnight success in this game. You ever heard that? Yeah, yeah. How fast? How fast did that 10 years go though? You said 2016, but it it kind of it kind of flew by, right? Yeah, nah, for sure. Nah.
SPEAKER_01I have I had my first platinum and um I had my first platinum in 2017. 20 seven, like 2018, 2018. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00First platinum, he talking platinum shit over here. You're gonna stop playing with that boy. First platinum. How many platinums you got? I got eight. Yeah, boy, almost about to touch a diamond on you niggas. Eight eight platinum certifications. Congratulations, my brother. You're saying it like it's nothing, but I'll I don't know. I'll help you artists understand how hard it is to achieve platinum success in this industry. That's one of the greatest achievements you can have as an artist when it comes to making sales is to create a platinum record or platinum single or platinum album, which is even more ill. So I just wanted to do that eight times, it's not an easy thing. I don't think I've done it eight times. I got a few, but I don't think I've done it eight times.
SPEAKER_01Man, you bro, you a legend though, man. Yeah, we got we still, man, sometimes that that plaque, that that motherfucker, man. I feel like it shouldn't even be that hard to make something go platinum though for real, though. Cause you gotta you gotta listen to something 1,500 times to get one sale, man. Who the fuck listened to some shit 1500 times, bro? That 1500, like that shit is how they measure that shit to me is just crazy. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_00It's a different measurement. I mean, I don't know if it adds up the same. So it was like when we when we when I when we first started, it was all CD, so you had to actually go buy the CD. You know what I mean? So it's like, but I think the equivalent to what you're talking about is be like, I brought the CD, but they never counted how many times that CD got played. Yeah, you feel me? You know what I'm trying to say? So so that's I think it's just they trying to give the same breakdown for the stream. Like if you had a CD, I mean, I don't know how it goes, but you seem to be figuring out how to make a lot of money despite your uh qualms you have with the streams. Yeah. So what are you saying? You still an empire?
SPEAKER_01Uh no, I ain't an empire right now. I'm I'm 100% independent right now, though. All on your all on your own? Yeah. How does that feel? Oh, I feel good. I've been, you know, just it's kind of like the same system for real. Like, you know, once you get to figuring out, you know, who does what, you know what I'm saying? Who's outsourcing, you kind of doing the same thing, just, you know, handing a different person the money, you know what I'm saying? Money. It's you handing them the money instead of the label handling the money.
SPEAKER_00You feel more comfortable doing it like that way instead of having label uh services?
SPEAKER_01Oh, I say, you know, I'm not scared to do it. Like, I'm like, I feel like, you know, it's definitely more can come from, you know, doing it on a label, but you know, I'm kind of in a space now where I want kind of the more long-term uh catalog things, you know what I'm saying, that come with, you know, being independent than the, you know, quick bag. Because they always try to like give me bags for like projects and stuff like that. But like lately I just been like, okay, I'm gonna put it out myself. If I have a record go, you know what I'm saying, I 100% own it, you know what I'm saying, instead of taking that advance, you know what I'm saying, every time, because I know like, you know, it's some like the music that I had already, like when I got ready to do my catalog evaluation, like, you know, it was up, you know, 25 mil, you know what I'm saying, 30 mil type shit. Or talking those type of numbers. But then when I I didn't gave so much to the, you know what I'm saying, to the label that, oh, I can't even do this deal because, you know what I'm saying, I'm re I supposed to be recouping all this money over here, which, you know, who's to say if it was that even much, you know what I'm saying? But I still gotta recoup that much, because that's how much they say they spent, you know what I'm saying? So after me saying that, I'm like, oh, okay, well shit, I could do another three, four-year run and and do it again. And I own everything, you know what I'm saying? But that's only if you know how to play that game. You know what I'm saying? If you don't know how to play that game, then I totally know what you mean.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, for sure. But you having so much success, so uh, it might it's it's it's better for people like yourself to be in that position to go independent as opposed to but it's variables too, and shit like that. But what you said, what you said is is a very important thing as far as having label service help you or you being able to do it yourself. But the trick is about being able to do it yourself. Most of these artists don't know the amount of work it's gonna take to actually do it yourself. Uh the the team, you need to have a team around you that can still accomplish the same things that were were being accomplished when you were on the label. Like, yeah, but you seem to understand all the ins and outs of it and shit like that. And that's pretty dope because owning your masters outright is incredible. I mean, yeah. So that's one of the things that I didn't get a chance to take advantage of when I signed my first deal. Yeah. And the label that I signed to, I made them a shitload of money. So hopefully things will change in the near future, because it's over 20 something year. Yeah. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01So I ain't really owned my masters when I first started out either, though. Like I ain't, I ain't, I was licensing, you know what I'm saying, my shit. I had an independent deal, but it's still like, see, people think like, okay, I own my masters, but you license it. I license it out. So it's like if I license it out for 20, 30 years, I ain't gonna see it in 20, 30 years the same way I wouldn't have seen it if I if I owned the masters. So it's like licensing is basically hold the same weight as masters. So 100% when I'm when I'm you know licensing stuff, you know, might as well say I'm on the masters. So but I don't regret, you know what I'm saying, doing those deals because like maybe it wouldn't have gone like it would have gone if I wanted did those deals. Everything is written.
SPEAKER_00You had to go through all that. You feel me? It's not a big thing, but for people out there who are artists out there that are coming in the game and don't know the ins and outs, they need to hear things like that. It gives them more options about how to go around shit and shit like that. For you, it seems like uh I've seen you in the news and the press and all types of they they post-negative shit. So when you see yourself in the press or you see somebody uh saying things about you, how you how does that make you feel?
SPEAKER_01Man, it used to make me feel like uh it used to make me feel bad. Like I used to like read all the comments and stuff, but then I just started saying, like, don't even let that stuff into your your area. You know what I'm saying? Don't even I don't even read comments no more. I see a blog about me saying some negative shit. I just keep scrolling. I don't even indulge in it. I don't go searching my name, seeing what people saying about me. I don't go seeing like I don't do none of that no more, bro.
SPEAKER_00Like, it's all make-believe at the end of the day. That's what the media is here for. I mean, no person that reaches the heights of your success will ever have a smooth ride. You know what I mean? When you when when people can see you that clearly, it's easy for them to throw something at you.
SPEAKER_01And they never post nothing, they never gonna post your positive, they never gonna be able to do that.
SPEAKER_00I mean, that's not that that's not their job. You know what I mean? They not entertained by positively, they're entertained by negativity in the lies. That's way more entertaining than having to hear the truth. But what you're doing by keep putting one foot in front of the other and keep moving is incredible. Like, you know what I mean? Because I I know how I know how it feels. And for you to be in this, get into this game at such a young age, I know you had to learn a lot. Like this shit had to be like school at the same time. If you're about your money and your business, this shit is definitely like school because you're learning something new every day. So with that being said, you you signing to an artist at a young age. Yeah. What would you tell another artist coming into the game and has an opportunity to get a deal, but it's with an artist also who has a label deal, also, and things like that. Would you have any advice for any artists coming into those situations?
SPEAKER_01Uh yeah, I would say just, you know what I'm saying? Um, you know, me coming into that situation, like, like I never got no money. Like, I never got no money up front, you know what I'm saying? And, you know, I looked at the opportunity, you know what I'm saying? I looked at the opportunity of the situation. And, you know, I don't mind that. I feel like if the opportunity, you know, that's that's worth some value, you know what I'm saying? So uh I'm really not against it. I feel like it's just all about like, you know, what that person do and what type of person that person genuinely is. Because a lot of people be saying, oh, they this type of way, or they be maybe looked at some type of way, but they be real deal, like violent, evil people behind the scenes. You know what I'm saying? So you just gotta watch, like, you know, these for these type of people, you know what I'm saying? Now some people be, it just depends on what type of, you know, person that you you you doing business with for real, for real.
SPEAKER_00Like you said, you s you you said in a very important word there and then opportunity. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like opportunity is something that don't come by too often. And if you're a small person and you see opportunity in something that maybe nobody else can see, yeah, then it's up to you to make that choice to take that opportunity. Yeah, you know what I mean, and and then show people what what they didn't see and things like that. And sometimes that opportunity don't come with money, and people might think you you're worth money, like, yo, why are you taking this opportunity and we could go over and get that? But yeah, if that opportunity might be worth more than any money you could make, yeah. Because it's gonna take you to where you need to be and shit like that. So I I I love I love your mindset and how you think. Um, I don't honestly, they would they would like me to talk about, I don't like talking about too much stuff because I don't I'm not into that. So we're not gonna get into what everybody talks about. We're gonna continue to talk about positive shit. You got an art, you got an album out right now, the world at war, right? Is that what it is?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00World at war.
SPEAKER_01Uh what's it my bro? But I don't I don't mind talking about hey bruh. I ain't gonna lie, I used to be on that shit, like nitpicking, bro. I don't give a fuck no more. Cause that's when I used to be like, I used to try to save niggas, bruh. I used to try to save niggas, and I used to try to be the bigger person, but I don't give a fuck no more. So don't feel like you can't ask me.
SPEAKER_00So you say that because I don't know the ins and outs. I too be on social media like everybody else is the only thing there is to do. So I can't ask you this. I and I don't know what the situation. You think that you and Boosie will ever be on the same page to see seeing eye to eye? Just in general, like not even about no business, just like passing.
SPEAKER_01Man, bro. I didn't, you don't even know how many times I didn't try to see eye to eye with that man, how many times I didn't try to uh, you know, mend shit, show this nigga how to make money, show this nigga how we could continue to make money, you know what I'm saying? Even while we going through this case, you know what I'm saying? Nigga hit me up every once in a while in my DM, man blue, da-da-da-da-da-da. I'm like, bruh, you st we still arguing about some shit that we never gonna agree on that's fucking five years old. I'm like, bruh, these people right here are give us millions of dollars right now to do a collab tape or drop some songs together, bruh. Let's just get this money. We can still, we can still fight in court, bruh. Let's just get this money right here. Yo, bruh, you don't wanna do it. You say you don't want to do it, or you wanna just keep talking about something else. But like with that, bruh, I know I'm a real nigga. I know I'm a real nigga. I never did shit to no nigga that, like, bruh, I never seen a nigga contradict himself so much. Like, man, that man contradict himself, bruh. How you gonna say blue ain't wanna give me no money? But then go in another interview with with black, you can look it up right now. Oh, you know blue, you know blue offered me two million dollars. You know he offered me two million. So did I offer you two million, or then I didn't offer you nothing. You feel me? Because I didn't even have to offer you the two million, you know what I'm saying? I just did that just off the respect. I just felt like that that just like if you had an artist, right? If you had an artist, I just come back. You had an artist, right? You weren't really putting no money behind them, right? And y'all went and signed to another label, and y'all went to sign to Columbia or whatever. Columbia dropped the artist, you know what I'm saying? They dropped the artist, and the artist like, man, I don't know what to do, man. Shit just seemed like it just going, I'm just, I'm fucked up, you feel me? Man, I need about 100, 150, so what I want to do all this stuff right here, and we can take out. If you don't got it, or if you don't want to do that, bruh, just let me out my deal, bro. We can sign, we can sign a release right now. Let's work on it. We work on a release for six months. You in the email, your lawyer in the email, your brother in the email, all of us in the email going back and forth for six months. We finished the deal. I come to your house. Before we even do that, I come to your house on my tour bus. I say, man, boo, bruh, this is what we doing, bruh. I'm gonna have to go over here and get this bag with Empire, bruh, if you don't want to give me no money. You booster wasn't giving nobody no hundred, no 150. He wasn't doing nothing to put into nobody. You feel me? And all the orders over there can vouch for that. He said, All right, bruh, you could do that. Once that's once I go do that, the next few months, I got a song with Drake. Of course you gonna get amnesia. Of course you're gonna get amnesia. Nigga, you just had me. You just had me. You feel me? Soon this release is, soon this release is done, damn, I get a song with Drake. Now me just being like, damn, I ain't gonna lie, like, even though I know this nigga lying about, even though I know he lying about not knowing that I wanted to get out the deal and not signing a release, I'm like, damn though, that is a big ass fluke. That's just a big fluke, but like I fuck with you too much. Like, let me try to get at least two million out of these people, you feel me, to give to you just to make you feel like, damn, because I know you, you know what I'm saying? You helped me. You feel me? I know you felt like he missed out. He just missed out. Like, I did feel like he missed out too. I really felt like I man, I wish you would have just put some money behind a nigga. You feel me? I wish you would have just did this, so we wouldn't even have to get to this point. You feel me? And when we did that release, he got a lot of shit in return for that release. Like all my old shit, all that shit. He nigga got that shit. So at that point, bro, you get online and start bashing me. You go to Vlad and shit, start bashing me in all these interviews, talking down on my name, telling everybody I'm a snake, telling everybody I'm this, telling about at this point, bro, it's fuck you. It's fuck you, bro. I can't even, you know what I'm saying? It's like, it's I can't even, you know what I'm saying? At this point, it's like I can't even have no sympathy for you because you, it's like, it's fuck me. So it's like, it's fuck you, bro. You know what I'm saying? And I ain't even know no type of shit like that. You saying shit about my kids, you saying shit about, you know what I'm saying? We going back and forth about all this other lame ass shit. You acting like a little kid on Vlad interviews and shit. You ain't acting like no business person. You just, how the fuck you telling me, oh, I ain't taking 10 million, I ain't take the two million, the nigga owed me 10 million. Nigga, I ain't even make 10 million. So you just let me know you was gonna take every dime I would have ever even thought about making. You feel me? I would have been flat broke if I was still signing to you for real. For real, because you talking about you were supposed to get 10 million, but I ain't even made 10 million. You feel me? At that time, I had didn't. So that's what they were. If a nigga want to know that situation, I didn't explain that situation so many times. But niggas think Boosie is niggas look at because I ain't gonna lie, I used to look at Boosie like that. Boosie, I'm from Mobile, Alabama. Nigga Boosie was nigga RJ Z. You feel me? This Boosie was R Jay Z. So we respect, bruh, in the streets, we respect bruh, like everything he did, we looked at him like at our idol. But that's different from when you doing business with somebody and seeing what type of person that they is, you know what I'm saying? And seeing the real them. So that's what other people don't get, and they'll never get it because in their head they just like boost it. But you can see all you gotta do is just go ask his other artists. You know what I'm saying? If you go if you go go down the timeline and see with his other artists that ain't not necessarily make it yet, you know what I'm saying? I ain't saying they ain't gonna make it, but they ain't make it yet. You can see that, you feel me? You can see what I'm talking about. But a nigga like me, they ain't gonna never believe me. I'm blue that's saying RB. They don't respect, you know what I'm saying? They don't respect what I'm saying. So that's why I don't even be talking about it. I don't really give a fuck about it. You know, I used to be like, let me try to get on this bitch and not say shit about that shit to say bruh face, but I ain't gonna lie, I still like bruh, fuck that shit. Like, I don't know.
SPEAKER_00Nah, you solid though. I mean, I ain't do shit with that. You solid. The fact that I don't, I mean, I don't, I definitely was not gonna try to figure out how to get nobody no extra money once out with that. You got extra two million is dope, man. Like, you got a great heart, and I like how you think um for even like just from hearing that story and shit.
SPEAKER_01You asked guys it that, man. I done told man, I done test guys and man, guys of bro, goddamn, man, just you my nigga too. Yeah, I'm like, guys and man, just got down, you feel me? Like, bro made a horrible decision, bruh. Bro made a horrible decision at the at the harbor at a at a at the wrong time. You feel me? I'm like, you ain't got no choice but to say a nigga forward your name or to say a nigga.
SPEAKER_00Yo, that's like they so check this out. And he wasn't signed to me or nothing, but so when I did um, when I was signed to Sony, I was doing the album before I got, and um J. Cole used to come in my studio like for the whole the whole time I was doing my album. He came in and rap to me every day and all that shit. And I was it was a long time ago. I was so caught up, like Drake is light skinned, you sound like Drake, but whatever, but he still I still left the open door for him. Cool. Maybe a year later, a year after that, he goes off. Yeah. Like, like, oh so that'd be like me trying to call, like, yo, bro, you, yo, yo, yo, nigga, you owe me 10 million, bro. You know you would you understand what I'm saying? I'm saying, like, nah, I would never, I and I've been in situations where I missed out on artists blowing up. Not one, but more than one, and shit like that. But it's never to the point where it's not about Boosie, my man too. So it's not about Boosie. I'm just talking about myself. Like, yeah, I would, I'm not that person that could be to do anything after I lost out on it. Like, but I'm still gonna congratulate you and give you your flowers and shit like that.
SPEAKER_01Cause that's and I would have still got like it's still ways that me and Boosie could have got money. You feel me? That would have been probably more than than that, bro. It would have been more than that. You gotta think about it, bro. We probably could have had about four or five compilation albums together, you know what I'm saying, that's worth that we could have, you know what I'm saying, that's worth money, probably would have had hits off it, all type of shit. It's just niggas do not want to see the little dog that was the little dog. Some niggas do not want to see the little dog become the big dog. They would never want to see you want to see you. Or become a big dog besides you do good, but they don't want to do it. They don't want to see you do, they don't want to see you do better than them. They don't even want to see you do the same as them. Because I ain't even looking at it like, oh, I'm finna go, you know what I'm saying, be bigger than, but you know what I'm saying? I was just looking at bro like, I want to be another heavy hitter, you know what I'm saying? And I was always willing to break bread with the nigga, you know what I'm saying? I was always willing to, you know, try to fix shit behind the scenes, even when I felt like I'm like, damn, bro, like, bro, just fucking up my name. Like, he just fucking up my name to the point where it's hard.
SPEAKER_00I go through that with people playing with my name and shit like that. Yeah, me. I don't really I don't I don't have no defense in social media or none of that type of shit. I I've I I you know what I mean, like so. But I've learned, like, in this past six months has been a hell of a time for me. In this building, I've learned so many lessons about uh just watching people doing devilish things towards me and and about my name. And it's similar to what you're saying. When people see you building and going to a place that they can't go, they start throwing rocks at you and shit like that and hope that it'll take you away from your mission.
SPEAKER_01If somebody if somebody said, just say, if somebody said, alright, um, just say, whoever, whoever you started this with, just say, uh, y'all have a fallout or whatever. And bro say, um, man, I don't want to do this shit no more, Jill. Like, let's, let's goddamn, let's, you know, go our separate way. And you like, alright, shit, you gotta give me this. And I'm like, alright, bet. He goes and he starts talking to the lawyer that's known to represent you now, that's been representing you the whole time that we was, I ever knew you, you feel me? So my lawyer, your lawyer, they talking for six months. Your lawyer saying, Yo, I'm yeah, Jim said yes to this. Okay, go back and forth. Okay, he said yes to this, bam, bam, bam, bam. So we going back and forth on email. The release comes, because I first of all, I already talked to you, and now I'm going back and forth with your lawyer for six months. So you mean to tell me throughout that whole six months, that wasn't none of those emails was you. None of those emails was you, and your lawyer saying you can't even get the lawyer to come and tell and say that that wasn't you. That's why we in court now, because the we gotta get the lawyer to come and say that that was Boosie that he was talking to, because I got emails saying that, oh, Boosie said a lawyer not finna say Boosie said this, but he thinking he talking to somebody else, whoever it is, your brother or whatever.
SPEAKER_00That's what's been a lot. A lawyer has the power of attorney when he's dealing with a client. Quote unquote, I'm not a lawyer, so don't don't, but I know that when you have a lawyer for being locked up, a lawyer for entertaining for entertainment, they usually use they talk for you. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01So Yeah, so release done, shit, shit start going up. Man, I don't know that lawyer. They ain't my lawyer. I ain't signed that shit. I ain't signed. That's the only way you could even possibly, if you go see a nigga just went stupid and think he made 10, 20 M's, of course, man. You get them knee. I don't know that lawyer. I don't know. Fuck that email. That ain't even my email. That's that's my brother. You already beefing with your brother. Man, my brother did that shit. I don't know nothing about that. But we came. Me and your brother came and sat down to talk to you and told you this, and you agreed to everything, but a nigga just went up after that shit. Now you want to rhythmic. That's all that shit was. And you know, I still fuck with, I still fuck with bruh. He still write me to this day. You know what I'm saying? He still write me. But nigga, let's get some money. Since you want to put everything out on Vlad and shit, you want to go viral, nigga. Let's get some money. Let's drop some music. Nigga, let's keep going. Let's keep going. Let's go get some money. Nigga, let's go get another bag. That's fire. Nigga. That's fire. All that other shit, we can still do that, but bruh, I'm I'm moving forward.
SPEAKER_00I'm with that, Boosie. I'm with that. But I ain't, I mean, I I like I wish, I wish I had more of more of your mindset. Probably should be a few people that I should be like, let's get some money, but fuck that. I want smoke. How about that? You heard? But Boosie, not for real. Boosie, this ain't about nothing. You heard? This seemed to be about some money. And he willing to give more money. And and boy, got eight platinums already. Boy, you better get to that bag, Boosie. What you doing? I know you like that money, man. You got that big ass estate, look like half of New York City down there. Yeah, that was Boosie. He's gonna fail with getting money. Nah, he's alleged. No, he's and I I I like I said, I respect your mindset. And this is it was great how you was able to tell your story and you still bring it back and was very respectable. And that's dope because this is separate.
SPEAKER_01Like you said, man, that nigga, if you go watch that nigga interview, that nigga be the same way. One one day that nigga, man blue. I ain't I know blue, ain't had nothing to do with that shit for real, for real. The next interview, man blue, fuck blue. That nigga be all over, that nigga be all over too, bruh. He don't know how he feels about that shit, bruh. He the next one day he cussing me out in the DM. The next day, got there, man blue. Let's goddamn do this, do this, do that, do that. I'm just like, bruh, look, man, when you get a decision, when you make a decision what you want to do, bruh, I'm with it, bruh. And to the end, bruh, I gotta move on, bro.
SPEAKER_00I think that I think, I think doing things like this, I think y'all definitely gonna get back together and do something, do something, get some money. I ain't got no problem with, bro. Nah, that that was super, super, super dope. So let's get into your album, this new album. Yep. Is what is the name of it? The World at War or The World O'Reilly. The World at War. Yeah. Uh titles inspired over about what? What was your inspiration for the title?
SPEAKER_01Man, just like I was, I had a situation with um with my uh the last partner, distributor, that I was going through. And um, I just decided not to do the second album. I was just like, I'm finna just get back in the studio, I'm just finna drop again. Shit, everybody going to war right now. It Trump on this bitch talking shit to everybody. We finna go to war. I'm just like, I'm just gonna name this bitch world at war. You know what I'm saying? And I just was talking about like the world being at war in like different places, like in the streets, like in our homes, love, you know what I'm saying? Like being at war in our relationships, you know what I'm saying? I just did a little quick little take just to just see how this shit would do independent.
SPEAKER_00How many records you got on there?
SPEAKER_01I ain't putting number 12 on there. I got it. I got a record right now called Nobody Wins that's going up on, going up off the tape, um, right now.
SPEAKER_00You got any features on there?
SPEAKER_01Uh, who I had on there? I don't even think I had Honeycomb, um Honeycomb, Trap Dickey.
SPEAKER_00I'll say Honeycomb.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, I had Honeycomb, Brazy, Trap Dickey, and um, yeah. Jack Boys, that's the name. No, no, no, no. That's the name. That's the name of the name of the song. Yeah. But uh, yeah, but I I got I'm holding some shit too, though. I'm holding some big features and shit that I ain't even like that I ain't even dropped. But I, you know, I really don't even be, I'm trying to build my name without the features and shit right now. Like, I I want to get back to like the essence of this shit. You know what I'm saying? That's why I just dropped. Like, I ain't studying no feature right now.
SPEAKER_00You got a favorite you got a favorite or a record that stands out to you the most on this album?
SPEAKER_01Or the Nobody Wins record going going crazy. It's a record called Nobody Wins that like everybody just draw to when I dropped the album going viral on TikTok right now.
SPEAKER_00Like, you got videos done already?
SPEAKER_01No, I ain't even did no video yet, dude.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you gotta get ready to knock them videos out.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Sometimes, bro, I ain't gonna lie, bro. Video, music videos kind of just ain't hitting the same. Like, they want content.
SPEAKER_00That's what I about to say. It ain't even about to be videos, you gotta knock the content out.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, like gotta get the content. You fuck around, shoot a whole video. That bitch, the content goes viral more violent than the video.
SPEAKER_00100%. And that's what I've been noticing too, is like, so what do we do then? Do we just make 10 content clips and just put out, like, put them out like 10 separate videos for the same record?
SPEAKER_01I my last album, therapy, um, uh RB album, hella well received by my fan base. Like, it's I went to Canada and just shot 30 pieces of content to each song, and I just was like putting them out. And I ain't gonna lie, that's probably the best rollout that I didn't had. Like, I was able to drop like pieces of content before, pieces of content, like why it was dropping, pieces of content like after the like keep it going on TikTok, on da-da-da-da-da, and like running ads on TikTok, running ads on Instagram. Like, as long as you got your ads set up, bro, like you get you going straight to the people. Like, especially if you already are known artists that they know, you know what I'm saying? I feel like that's the best form of promo nowadays. If you ain't doing radio, then this is straight organic to the people ads. Like, and that's what's like been winning for me, because once people like the song, they go say the song, and they go add it to their playlist, and that's what a residual screams keep coming in once they saving it to their playlist. Because now it's just playing without them even, you know what I'm saying, on a random you know what I'm saying? Put your playlist on, and now this song you done saved to your shit.
SPEAKER_00So you you you encourage all artists to kind of go for con go for these content pieces more than shooting videos now?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, content. You can't get around it. I used to be the type of artist that I ain't wanna really get with the new wave of thinking that shit was just lame and corny. Because I ain't even gonna lie, I ain't really the type that just wanna be on the internet and shit all the time. But I was just like, man, if I don't compete with, you know what I'm saying, like my fans growing up, I gotta still, I gotta get the younger fans too. So I gotta be on TikTok and doing the little silly shit they want to do sometimes, you know what I'm saying? Just to, you know, stay in tune with them, you feel me? Or not, you just gonna be one of them niggas that just be like, man, I ain't doing that shit and just fall behind. Like 100%. So you kind of gotta get with it, still do it in a way that's true to yourself. But like what I do, I just like, I still do like cinematic content that go with like my mood of music. And then I just run ads. Because my biggest thing is really like I ain't super, like, I ain't super big on social media, but like my music big. You know what I'm saying? Like, I probably don't get a lot of light, but I could do a million screens in a week, you know what I'm saying? So it's like my fans, when they hear my shit, it's well received. It's just me, them knowing it's out. Like, you know what I'm saying? You may, so that's when I run ads, you know what I'm saying? Like, if everybody know my shit out, like, oh, I can spend like they my album drop, I may spend $10,000 on ad that first week, you know what I'm saying? Just to make sure everybody knows it's out, because if nobody knows it's out, it's just like nigga gotta go to your page to see oh blue drop some of these movies.
SPEAKER_00Instead of saying spread that shit out so niggas can see it like a billboard.
SPEAKER_01If you're instead of wasting this shit on, it's so much shit to waste money on with when it comes to this market and this shit, it's so much like smoking mirrors, man. I say put that shit into real organic straight to the people, bypass all that other bullshit, man, go straight to the people.
SPEAKER_00That's how you you giving the people a lot of you gave me a lot of game this now and shit like that. Cause you know me, I'm an older artist, so yeah. Naturally, if you saying you had to do different things to keep up in the game, then imagine where the fuck I'm at. Out the fucking window. I'm not even a loop nail fucking. But I feel like you've been like doing like more. Yeah, because I'm starting, I got, I got, I gotta, I got young people work running my shit. I don't have no. Because I've been seeing you a lot lately. Only working from history's perspective. And I need everything to go like you saying and shit like that. So I'm gradually learning as I'm going. But I'm not stupid. I always like to keep ahead of the game. So yeah, but a lot of the things you said right now is what even some of the artists that are know what's going on with social media and for marketing tools, but a lot of people not choosing to do like just all content now. Like now it got me sitting here thinking, because I got a project I'm trying to put out like May 22nd, right? Called a Landlord. And it's like, I about to start gearing up to go shoot a whole bunch of videos, and I'm like, Man, you just said I get fresh every day for no reason. I just come in here and just just shoot this mad different content. But it's like, all right, so with the content, you shoot 30 content pieces. What take what so what you what takes the place of your video on YouTube?
SPEAKER_01Man, you do the video last, bruh. Like you do the video last and don't even spend that much, like don't even spend that much on the video, bro. Cause, man, they pushing YouTube shorts and they pushing like reels, they pushing TikTok. Like, that's gonna push it way more than the music video. The music video kind of like, oh, after the song, we done heard the song so much, okay, here go the video. Like, they ain't nobody running to YouTube first to see the music video, cuz don't nobody like the watch time ain't even that long no more because you got a three, four minute video, like niggas clicking out of the video, and oh, that's Jim Jones, all right. Uh like they clicking out that shit. But if they see a piece of content and they see the camera moving and shit, and you know what I'm saying, you on that bitch rapping and shit. Nah, it's like it's more immersive, and that's get that's getting like kind of the nigga. Did you go to college?
SPEAKER_00Nah, I ain't no but you very knowledgeable about this shit. That's the difference. Like, so uh nigga from my era could not have a conversation with you, what you talking about right now. Cause it don't but you see how you talking about that type of shit, like like it's regular, like that's what the kids need to hear and shit like that. That's what these artists need to hear that kind of be stuck and don't know how to kind of propel itself or get to the next level, or just even get out their box. Like, yeah, I'm very uh I'm a loss for words because you kind of fuck me up with this. That's why I'm just letting you speak because everything you're talking about is some shit that artists need to hear, period. Whether you make your music, whether you make your content, whether you're an influencer, because all this now falls into the content bag and how uh people consume your art.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. You gotta have your ad. And the the the main thing too is a lot of artists don't have, don't even have their ad account set up because it takes a lot of like, like you gotta set your ad account up on Facebook, then you gotta link it to Instagram, you gotta do the same thing with TikTok, you gotta set your Google ads up. Like, bro, you gotta have each site, you gotta have ads on because you gotta think about it. Even if you put, okay, just say you put a piece of content out, right? Each content not gonna hit the algorithm. You may have one hit, the next three don't hit, then the next one hit, you know what I'm saying? So, okay, the ones that hit, bam, them hit. But the ones that don't, but you still know it's good, you might gotta put a little bread. So why spend like 5,000 on a music video when I could put 5,000 into an ad and get a million, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_00A million or more and get your money back.
SPEAKER_01You know what I'm saying? Yeah, a million or more screams, you know what I'm saying, and people saving the song and hearing the song, then that. So that's kind of like where it's shifting to. A lot of this shit we used to do just for like for in vain, just to do it. Like just say, oh, I want to have an expensive looking ass music video. Or I want to have, I want to go fucking be on fucking double XL, you know what I'm saying? Like all this shit that don't matter, that's just fans don't give a fuck about no more. Fans don't give a fuck about if they see you on Double XL, bro. Do we listen to you? Like, they don't care what platform, you know what I mean.
SPEAKER_00That's double XL.
SPEAKER_01That was a big thing.
SPEAKER_00We cut that out. We cut that out. Well, we know we're not cutting out because you just talking. It's not about that. Yeah, it's not even about it. I'm older than you when we were coming up double XL. I'm actually very motherfucking important. Not so much, I mean, not so much now. You're not you're not saying nothing that's wrong. Now that it's a publication that's on uh the internet and social media like anybody else, it's like nothing special because they're in the wave of the internet before we were intelligible. It was something we could grab, we could look at. Like, there's none of that. People choose, though. It's like it's not them. Like, they ain't doing nothing wrong. It's just no magazine, it's not the source, it's not, it's not, it's not a hit, a shot at them, but there's like nothing that's we're looking forward to go see who's on the cover of right now.
SPEAKER_01Opening up our phone and going to the internet and whatever pops up in our mind.
SPEAKER_00No cover, because whatever's on your explorer is our new cover.
SPEAKER_01If you ain't looked on shit on, if you ain't looked at that magazine in the last two weeks, that shit ain't even gonna show up on your feed, bro. That shit ain't even to show you who the fuck. That shit ain't even to show you that shit. You feel me? So you gotta stay in an algorithm to where this shit got to the point, nigga, you don't even post for three weeks. You ain't in none of your friends' algorithms until you gotta post a couple times to warm up.
SPEAKER_00You gotta warm up, you gotta warm the end. You gotta it's like a car, like.
SPEAKER_01You can't even take no content break. You just gotta post shit, just nigga, just sitting there, not even doing nothing. Man, I posted the video of like just at the I just got on my phone, just pointed the camera at the bed, and my girl was in the bed with my baby. That shit got 164,000 shares. The most shares I that shit got 20 million on TikTok, that shit got 20 million on Instagram, and I'm just whipping up the shit that I want to promote. Shit don't get I be like, I gotta put ads behind that shit.
SPEAKER_00That shit go four million views like yo, bro.
SPEAKER_01What? Go out that bitch and say some shit about the weather, that shit gonna go up, you know what I'm saying? It's just because they just like that shit. But it's like they they know, they want you to push the music. They know, they know what they're doing, but you don't think Instagram know, like, okay. 100%. Now they on they on it. I'm gonna it's just like the lottery. Guess what? It's just like the casino. You gonna hit and goddamn, you gonna keep chasing that. That chasing that shit. So I'm gonna keep, so what I'm gonna do? Okay, well, let me spend some money to goddamn, which is it's cool. You feel me? Let me spend, you gotta spend some money. It's just where you spend the money. I'd rather spend all that shit into the internet, it's straight to the people, bro. Fuck the music videos.
SPEAKER_00Listen for all you artists out there. Fuck them videos right now. Fuck them.
SPEAKER_01Unless you're shooting that bit for $300 or something. For what?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, man. But invest your money in creating these content clips for your records. I like that. I'm about to do that for this album here. So y'all about to see a whole shitload of motherfucking clips go out. Um speaking about success. Let's speak about success. What does success mean to you?
SPEAKER_01Man, at this point in my career, I feel like success just means being able to do this shit on at least a level of where I can take care of my family and I can, you know what I'm saying, continue to produce and you know continue to do shows and do that's that's what success means. It ain't even really about the accolades, because I ain't gonna lie, this hip hop shit, the only shit where you just gotta be fucking on fire the whole fucking time. Like, damn, like you can't never, man. Brian might have a good year, Brian might have a bad year, that nigga might hurt it, ankle one year, or he might be chilling next year, come back, win a ship. Like, you gotta be ship, ship, ship, ship, ship every year. Or you ain't, you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't like that shit. So I just I try not to think about that shit.
SPEAKER_00I uh they said success comes with excess. Yeah. You heard? Yeah. And that excess could determine where your success is going. Meaning, like, they gotta really beneficial, all this excess that comes with it. Like, I mean the ancillary benefits that comes with you being an artist, or it could be detrimental. Because you might fall into that trap of everything that comes with the ego from you being an artist and shit like that. So it's like the success is is is ease your mind from that shit, man.
SPEAKER_01Easy your mind. And you gotta stop listening to them, stop and stop engaging and stop reading that shit. That's why, bro, I don't even, bro, to be honest, bro, I don't even send my shit to the blogs no more. Like, I don't send my shit out to blogs when I post music and I be like, oh, uh, blogs post this. Because it's people who like, why would you, why would I invite that energy? I'd rather spend that shit on an ad that's gonna push positivity, you know what I'm saying, to differ. I could reach the same amount of people that that blog reached by just doing something with an ad. You know what I'm saying? Ad, bro. That's the that's the word.
SPEAKER_00Super Bowl run ads.
SPEAKER_01Guess what? Super Bowl run ads, Super Bowl gonna goddamn, they gonna keep running ads. Oh, y'all think they running all these commercials because the ads don't work? Okay. They want you to think it don't work.
SPEAKER_00I was asking you about this earlier, um, about the facility you had built in Atlanta. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um, you said you don't have it anymore, but what made you build that facility? Because it would look like that shit was enormous and it seemed like it had everything that an artist would want when he walked in the studio.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what made me build that it was just having a vision of like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, basically that having a place to record that was just like all in one facility. And I did it, you know what I'm saying? It was just, you know, having so many issues with like uh the zoning permits and like they was shutting down a lot of things I was doing, like because when I was traveling and stuff, I was like renting it out and stuff like that. But they'll come in and like, oh, you can't have this, you can't have this many rooms, like you gotta put a door right here, or you can't have these people. They be sending people out to my house and like sending people out there to like do investigations, acting like customers, you feel me? But they, you know what I'm saying? Oh, I yo, I came out there, my son came out there, uh, and he was able to book your place for this, for this amount. You don't supposed to be renting out this, like just all type of problems. I'm keep having to go down to the city hall to meet with these people, you know what I'm saying, to the point where I just like it was just, you know what I'm saying? It was just too comfortable for you. Yeah, you feel me?
SPEAKER_00And it was just like, Atlanta is.
SPEAKER_01I'm gonna tone it down.
SPEAKER_00Atlanta, Atlanta is one of them tricky, tricky places, man. Like, I will say that.
SPEAKER_01But it wasn't even in Atlanta, it was on the outskirts, it was like in Gainesville. Like, I'm not sure.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but I mean, but for for us, we call for New York all of that Atlanta, but you know what I mean. I've been there, so it's like, you know what I mean? But it's tricky, tricky pockets out there in Georgia. You know what I mean? I've I've got caught up in Georgia a couple times. I'm not I don't really like Georgia too much. I can't say this. Um gun laws are extremely different in Georgia than they are in New York. And they almost a joke. Like they were almost like they was like almost like finding guns in the car, like throwing them out. Gun, gun, gun, gun, gun. Yeah. Four Perkins, we got them! You heard? Like, yo, bro, in New York, they would you you you get caught in New York with any type of pistol, your ass is grasping. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is the South, and and and everybody, you know what I mean, you don't even have everybody has a right to carry hair.
SPEAKER_01I was just flying. I was just flying, I was just flying in with the shit, and I ain't even know like, but I end up just getting a having a good lawyer and getting a stuff on the wrist.
SPEAKER_00But it was instilled in the lockbox, like yeah. See, it's a lot of different laws. It get tricky, lines get blurred, but yeah, I I don't listen. If you're from out of town and we know everybody got hammers out of town, there's really nothing, usually all the states is like that. Yeah. Maybe like 47 states is like that in this country. Like the guns laws are easy. New York, don't play that. So any artist from out of town, you pull up, you want to have, I know, you better get you an armed security. You heard you better, if you know some people out here that know the layer of the land, get with them too. Don't run around here with no blick, bro. You heard they slamming you. You see what they did to Wheezy, you see what they did to Jaru? They don't play, they don't care about who you is and shit like that, and so forth and so forth, and so many other rappers that got caught up for guns in the city. So please, yeah, be small with them blicks when you come to come to our city. Yeah, you know what I mean? Uh what you what what quest what made you you made a theme song, the Tajuski show? Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I never knew that. What made you do that? Uh they was shoot, they was he was shooting a show at my house. You know what I'm saying? He shot the first season at my house, yeah, at the Moon Boy uh spot. And I was just in the studio one time, he just walked to that motherfucker, he was like, Man, Blue made me a song for the show. I was just like, all right, I just went in that motherfucker, just cut on the beat and just wrapped it.
SPEAKER_00We got a dope record too. You uh did a record for me and Maine on the lobby on the lobby boys album. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Babysitter. Remember that record? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01I always be coming out here, drop. I know that my boy right there.
SPEAKER_00I told Main I was interviewing to interviewing you today. He was like, you know, that's my favorite, favorite RB artist. So I'm about to call him back, like, he ain't an RB artist, bro. You heard? Yeah, that boy. Talk to this man like he was Johnny Gillis or something. He ain't that, Main. He ain't an RB artist, bro. Oh, whatever, bro. Main is a good person, man. One of my one of my closest friends and shit like that, you know what I mean? So, I don't want to keep you here too long, but in this game common heights become pretty easy when you got some steam. Yeah. And then it dies down. How do you maintain your relevance when you go through those moments in your off seasons when you're chilling and things like that? And how do you how do you reinvent yourself so so so much that you keep getting all these platinum?
SPEAKER_01And with me, I just feel like, you know, I always had a pen. Like I always been the one that they kind of come to to like, you know, write the songs, you know what I'm saying? So I always kind of been behind the scenes. So I'm very gifted on that half. Even with the producing, like, if I'm not making a hit, I'm like kind of producing it. You know what I'm saying? Like I make a lot of. Yeah, like I I I did like uh like uh I did the uh just recently I did the uh Gunnar Him All Along Him All Alone record with Turbo.
SPEAKER_00Oh, I need some beasts. Yeah I need some beasts, fuck all that. I need some he. So I know you're not an RB singer, you know what I mean? Soul food person, but who is your favorite RB singer if you have one? Uh I say between like R.
SPEAKER_01Kelly, Usher.
SPEAKER_00Shit, I ain't mad at Shisha. Man, I ain't gonna make nothing. Yeah, R. Kelly is uh is no matter what goes on, very historic staple inside of black music history for the music he's created for my generation and things like that. Yeah, like but when it comes to RB, he's definitely top-notch. You heard?
SPEAKER_01Like Lauren Hill, I mean she ain't RB, but like these my favorite artists.
SPEAKER_00That's what it is. You're like, you're you're like a like a Lauren Hill type of artist. Like, you know what I mean? I don't know if she considered an RB, I don't know if she considered a rap, but you can feel her soul and all of the music that she does and shit like that. So I kinda I think that's kind of what you got going on and shit like that. You know what I mean? You play sports? Yeah, I used to hoop. Used to hoop?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I used to ball, nah. Like high school ball or just in the in in outside ball? Nah, I used to be, I used to be the true. I ain't never used been like no finagle to no NVA, but like I used to like hoop like for real. In Alabama? Yeah, yeah. I used to hoop. I used to hoop.
SPEAKER_00So you stay in Alabama? How long you been in Atlanta?
SPEAKER_01Uh I've been in Atlanta, like uh really as soon as I moved out of my city for real. That I went up there and shit, I've been there really.
SPEAKER_00You started doing music, you moved out of the city?
SPEAKER_01Uh, nah, I was doing moves. I I was already hot in my city before I came out. That's what I was saying, like, going back to what you say, like how you like how you treat the like highs and the lows, like, it's because like, bro, I had like so many highs and the lows even coming up. Like I done had times like during my mixtape era where I fucking fell off, you know what I'm saying, and had to get back, you know what I'm saying, get back up and before the the world even know me. When it was when I was regional, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But um, you know, and I done had times between platinum records and gold records that I didn't, you know, like when I signed to Columbia, I had like a song called Miss It, Ice on My Baby, and like Unappreciated. And um, and that that was that was like a whole era. After that era kind of died down again. Um then, you know, after that, no, before that era, I had like a whole different set of songs that bro, y'all probably won't know, but the whole South know. On Spin Rilla, like Investments 5, Investments 3, that was a whole era. After that era, fell off a little bit, came back, miss it, ice on my baby, unappreciated, bam. Fell off a little bit, came back, nympho, and all these like other records. Fell off a little bit, came back, Drake record, badass, beautiful lies, filling up, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, Drake recorded. Like, and I wouldn't even call it fell off, it's just like, it's just like, bro, you're not gonna make a hit every time you go to the studio, bro. Like, unless it's manufactured. If you got money to make shit a hit, then you can, but like, it's like you're not gonna make something as a hit like every time you go to the studio, bro. You gotta work through it.
SPEAKER_00So is there is there a difference between young blue and blue van Dros?
SPEAKER_01Not for real, bro. Not really. Not for real. That's people. Yeah, they start calling me that. I got this popular series with with my fan base called Blue Vandros. And once I dropped that shit, I had a lot of like had gold songs and hundred million of screens off those projects. So they started calling me that. Then I blue van draws too, blue van draws three. So now I'm just Blue Van Draw. So they just started calling me that, like that's the name, you know. So like you gave you a nickname and you just ran with it. Capo. Because the girls like it.
SPEAKER_00All that type of shit. But thank you, man. I don't want to keep it too much longer. Hopefully, we get out. I got a gift for you. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01A little dipset flavor. Oh, yeah. Oh, why I ain't gonna lie, boy. I walk past Star like, shh, hey, boy, you got to give me some shit out of that. Appreciate it.
SPEAKER_00Go get that album, uh, The World That War, right? Yeah, yeah. World at War, pick that up right now. Um, if you don't know who Blue is, go look his music up. Um, we got plenty of hits, plenty of platinum hits. Um, appreciate you stopping by. Yep. This is another episode of Artist the Artist, brought to you by Playmaker. Big shout out to Playmaker, can't do it without you. Um, we'll catch you on the next one. You heard me? Appreciate it, man.
SPEAKER_03Why y'all had to?