Ep. 14: Turkey Season is HERE: Missouri Regulation Changes, Reaping Tactics & Hunting Stories

In this episode of the Outdoor Aligned Podcast, Luke sits down in his mancave to talk all things turkey hunting as the season quickly approaches.

He breaks down the latest Missouri regulation changes, including new rules affecting non-resident hunters, updated bag limits, and increased tag prices. Luke also dives into the recent changes to shooting hours—highlighting the shift to all-day hunting on private land and the continued 1 PM cutoff on most public land.

The conversation expands into broader wildlife management topics, including recent predator hunting regulation changes involving coyotes and raccoons, and how these decisions may be tied to improving turkey populations across the state.

Luke also tackles the controversial topic of “reaping” turkeys—where hunters use a decoy to close the distance on a bird. While some consider it unsportsmanlike, Luke shares why he enjoys the adrenaline rush it brings, when he chooses to use it, and tells a few thrilling stories from the field.

Finally, he discusses decoy strategies, emphasizing that success doesn’t always come from the most expensive gear. From budget setups to key details like realistic sizing and using a real tail fan, Luke shares what’s actually worked for him over the years.

If you’re getting ready for turkey season or just enjoy hearing real hunting stories and strategies, this episode is for you.

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Hey everybody, welcome back to the Outdoor Line Podcast. Today we've got an episode planned for you talking about turkey hunting. As of right now, and as of when this releases, it'll be early or middle March. And turkey season's right around the corner. I think some of the southern states have already started here in the Midwest. We're looking at mid-April to get started. So first thing I want to talk about is there are some changes here in Missouri to some of the regulations and seasons kicking off turkey season, like for me, and I'm sure a lot of folks will be youth season. I'm sure I'll be tagged along with my nephew. That starts April 11th through the 12th. So that first weekend there. Two days for youth hunters. And that's always such a great time. Like just getting kids involved. Personally, I like turkey hunting as much as possible. The more gobbles I hear, the more birds I see all spring, the more successful of a spring it's been. I just truly enjoy going so much that it's not even a big deal that I'm not the guy hunting. I just like to go. I like to be out there. Just love to be turkey hunting. Typically, we take in my nephew, he'll be 10 years old this year. He's already got a couple birds under his belt. We had a really cool hunt last year, and I'm looking forward to it this year. We don't really have a plan at the moment, but we'll do some scouting leading up to that April 11th opener and hopefully find him a bird we can get on pretty easy. You know, as youth hunters, when they're young, it's kind of hard to run and gun, which is kind of the way I was raised hunting and how I kind of like to do it. So there can be some challenges of just setting up and kind of being stationary, not moving around a lot. But as he gets a little older, um, we're getting more into the, hey, there's a gobble over here, let's go after it, you know, and maybe a half a mile hike, or we may have to get in a truck and go to another property and rush into a spot, whatever it may be. Um he's he's certainly getting better at that. Last year we actually, it's funny, we called in some Jakes right on our lap, and he actually whiffed the shot. And uh, some sometime later that day we end up killing a long beard. So it worked out in the end. But yeah, that's April 11th and 12th. Guys, make sure you're taking kids out. Um, tag along, help out. Um, it always helps to maybe have a guy fall back and call back behind you or something like that. So myself and my dad will be taking my nephew, and we're gonna have a good time. I'm definitely looking forward to that. Moving on to regular season, that'd be that would open the next Monday. So not the 13th, but the following Monday after that. Um, and that starts April 20th, and that runs three weeks long here in Missouri through May 10th. Um something that's always interesting about those dates is like spring greenups already happened, but from that first week of season to the third week of season, there's such a change in vegetation. Um, things are just more visible um early on. There's just no leaves on the trees, the grass is short, the weeds are short, the undergrowth is pretty short, and by that last week, that last weekend, things are so thick, it's crazy. Um like one thing that I noticed that has a big effect on is when you are sneaking in on a bird like at right before first light. So typically a hunt for me may go you hear one gobble, you know, right at daylight or light at right at daybreak, and the goal is to get in pretty tight to them. Um, or at least that's typically my goal. And at the beginning of season, you can't get extremely close because there's no vegetation, right? No leaves on the trees, but come that last weekend, like you can get in pretty tight because the leaves are on the trees and they're harder to pick out up on the roost. Um that makes for some fun encounters. Um, moving on from that, the change in the regulation now is for non-resident hunters. So non-residents now are only allowed to kill one bird in Missouri. Um, that used to be a two-bird bag limit, just like residents. So you can kill your first bird in the first week, and you gotta wait till that eighth day of season to hunt again for your second bird. Um, but what's changed is non-residents are now only allowed one tag. Obviously, good through those three weeks of season. Additionally, what changed is the price, which is surprising to me. Non-resident tags went from$288, that's for two tags, two birds, now to$304.50 for one bird. So price increase, and you can hunt half as many birds. Um a non-resident landowner tag will be$190.50. So I don't know. That I'm between a rock and a hard place on this topic. Uh I've got plenty of out-of-state friends that come here and hunt every year. Um, I've got some other friends who in the future I hope to invite to come here and hunt. Turkeys are just kind of a high high odds of getting one, right? Like, turkey hunting's pretty good these days. Um, we certainly went through a rough patch, but overall it's pretty good. Like, I'm pretty consistently getting both my birds uh each spring. So, you know, I'd be comfortable inviting a buddy from out of state, say, hey, come hunt turkeys with me. You know, this will be fun. The odds of getting one are pretty good. Um, so that's um it's it's good and it's bad. Um, I recognize MDC's concern for turkey population. I feel like they're kind of behind on this. I think I mean in the last 20 years, from what I'm told, I'm not that old to remember. Um, but I think in the last 20 years the turkey population has been pretty steady declining. So I'm surprised that change like this comes now. Um from my own perspective, in our own area, I would say in the last five years we've had good turkey hatches, we've had good turkey populations, and they've had pretty good springs. Like it's just been some good hunting, there's been quite a few birds. I'm not gonna say tons of birds because that's not the case, but um more in the last five years than I can remember just prior to that. So I feel like MDC's a little behind on that, on that change. Um additional change that I believe happened a couple years ago was the public land time change. So for years you could only hunt turkeys until one o'clock. Well, now you can hunt turkeys all day long on private ground, but on public you have to stop at one o'clock. And in my opinion, what their thought process is is that's given um residents and private landowners more opportunity to hunt than say a non-resident guy that's coming in here hunting public land. Because what what I heard is there's not enough opportunity to go. So for a guy that works um five days a week, like a lot of us do, um what happens is when that one o'clock or when the hunt ends at one o'clock, you can only hunt six days of that full season, right? You got Saturday and Sunday three weekends in a row. Say you got something going on one of those weekends. Well, there's really not a lot of opportunity to get out there and hunt. So their thought process with extending the season was well, people can hunt when they get off work, right? Um once time changes hit, like right now, and once turkey season's here, it's going to be getting dark at 8:30, 9 o'clock. So probably 8.30, I think. So you've got lots of time if you get off work at 3:30 or 5 o'clock, whatever it may be. You've got some time to get out there and um harvest a bird. And personally, I don't like hunting the evenings. Um, I like that first light, hearing that first gobble, calling one off the roost type hunt. That's just what what everybody has kind of grown up doing, right? Since you couldn't hunt afternoons. But I can't say I didn't take advantage of it because I work too, and I mean most of us are you know guys that have jobs and don't just get to hunt all the time. So uh I certainly have hunted some evenings. I have not killed one. I did have a experience here a year or two ago. I called in three birds, kind of headed back to roost. I was kind of in a historical roosting area and just was kind of doing some random calling, and these three birds come in and they didn't like something, so I didn't get an opportunity. But it can be useful. Um, it can be good to hunt that late afternoon. Um, something that's always been in effect is you can hunt all day during youth season. And as a kid, I do remember killing a bird or two in that late afternoon time frame. And even in the recent years, I've taken some kids where we've got on birds in that time frame. So it can it can happen. It can certainly happen right before dark. Um just a little different. Um you know, a lot of people talked about changing resident um bag limits to one bird and rather than two. And you know, as a as a conservationist and as a turkey hunter and someone who cares about wildlife and that resource, um, I certainly don't want to see that go away. I don't want to see it get worse. Um I would I would be in support of that. Um, you know, I I'll happily take my one bird if the conservation says that's what we need to do to get this population back on track. But I read somewhere or saw a video somewhere that only 10% of hunters are actually able to harvest that second bird. So by reducing that bag limit to one bird instead of two, you'd be eliminating potentially 50% of your hunt time. So your opportunity would be eliminated, and you really wouldn't gain that much. You'd only be gaining 10% of those birds. So I recognize if that is true, if that statement is true, I recognize why that's maybe not the answer. Now, again, if that's true, why they do it to non-residents, I'm not sure. Um, a lot of non-residents may be here for a week, you know, and if they come the first week, they can't kill a second bird anyway. I think that uh if I was a non-resident coming to Missouri, I would plan my hunts either in the second or third week, so I could kill two birds, not in the same day, of course, but on back-to-back days. So I don't know what their goal is there. The price increase, I'm not surprised. Um MDC seems to be pretty money hungry, so they're not gonna turn that down, of course. Um I feel a lot of people always want to go to a draw, like some other states, right? Um, Kansas in the last few years has gone to a draw. Um I know Nebraska has like a quota. They only sell so many tags and then they're done. Missouri's welcomes any and all non-resident hunters because they want your money, feels like. Um, whatever, that's for them. That's above my pay grade, so that's for them to decide. But but yeah, just just keep in mind non-residents can only shoot one bird now, and tags did go up a little bit, just$20. And again, remember if you're hunting public land, you can only hunt till 1 p.m. And if you're hunting private, you can hunt all day long from 30 minutes before sunrise to that's a good question. I think it's 30 minutes after sunset, but a bird's gonna be roosted by then, I'm sure. So yeah, that's on new regulations for turkey season. Um pretty interesting. Um I think that regulations or bag limits or season adjustments are absolutely necessary. Um I think one would be a fool to believe a season should stay exactly the same, the same rules um forever, because the population's changing, the demand for hunters is changing, and I think to keep up with that, um those regulations, those bag limits have to be fluid and have to be able to change. And unfortunately, we have to trust in MDC or state departments to make those decisions wisely, right? And what's for what's best for um the turkey population. Um some other things that Missouri's done recently, and I don't know the exact dates and stuff on this, but I they opened up coon trapping to nearly year-round, I think, rather than just the fur bearer season. And I think any turkey hunter knows, or it's it's widely discussed, that coons are nest predators, they get the eggs or they may bump a hen off of a nest, which then she'd abandon it. Um there's I think there's some data backing that up. I'm not saying that that's why the turkey population is down, but it certainly can have something to do with it. So um opening up that coon season to be more year-round, um, one, like coon trapping in the summer, I would say, is easier. They're running every night rather than on just select warm nights, say in the winter. Um, but eliminating some of those raccoons, those nest predators from the landscape cannot hurt the turkey population, in my opinion. And I like to see it. I try to do some coon trapping on my home farms as well, just to kind of keep those populations at bay. Um, we're not going to catch them all. There's plenty of coons, so you guys see how many are hitting alongside the road, right? Um I would be curious what you guys think about that, if you guys think that um raccoons and possums are causing a lot of the nest predation and have an impact on uh turkey populations. Um additionally, Missouri just this year opened up thermal hunting for coyotes, also like nearly year-round. I think that excludes turkey season. Um in maybe another month or so. I'm not I'm not sure what the regulations are exactly. But for months now, rather than it was originally two months, for months now you can hunt coyotes with thermals. And that's certainly got a lot more people involved. Um, I myself have purchased a thermal because of it, and mainly because my buddy has one and wants to go. So um, and it's been fun. Thermal hunting coyotes has been more we've had more success at that than we have during calling them during the daylight. Uh we tend to call one in just about every night we go. Um, you know, we may make four or five stands in a night and may only be successful at one, maybe two. But um I think we're certainly putting a hurting on these coyotes. Um there's lots of tournaments around, like a local gun shops and stuff, will host these thermal night hunts, you know, like 7 p.m. to 7 a.m. And there's pretty good payout based on, I guess, the entry fees and stuff. And I mean, there's a lot of coyotes getting killed, and from what I understand, that's probably a good thing for turkeys, right? Um, it can't hurt again. And I don't think we're gonna hurt the coyote population. There's plenty of them, nobody traps anymore, hardly. Um and from what I've heard or read, coyotes repopulate based on their current population. So when you say take out half of the pack around in your area, like those coyotes know that they need to repopulate and breed. And um so I we're not gonna hurt coyotes, I don't believe, but maybe we can help maybe we can help turkeys um just in another way there. So I would like to think that the turkeys are on the uphill. The populations are doing good. I know in the last couple springs we've had some pretty good hatches, seen quite a few um clutches of of birds, you know, out on the properties that see them from the road, stuff like that. And I'm excited to see what this year brings. Um, one thing we have noticed is like a wet or dry spring. Obviously, a wet spring is harder on birds. There's nests that get flooded. Um, just in general, a wet nest is harder, I think, for the hen to hatch. It puts off more scent, which attracts more predators. Um, so a little bit drier spring is gonna help that. Um, I've been trying to do my own part here on my own property, um just a small chunk of ground, but we've been doing some prescribed burns, which I believe helps. Um, you know, it brings that green up um for those birds, and like those clutches grow up with that um new vegetation that grows in as well. So if you do like a late burn near the time the birds are gonna be hatching, um, as that grass gets taller, those polts are growing as well, and it gives them good habitat to grow up in, basically. Um so I've been doing some of that, and we always do like clover food plots on the farm, and like I said, we're trying to trap some predators, doing a little coyote hunting, um, just anything and everything to save the turkeys. I truly think that um an individual like myself or like you guys listening can make a difference on the turkey population. Um that's one thing that it seems like a win-win is if you put a little bit of effort in on your farm, you're likely gonna raise well, you're like I'm not gonna say likely, but there's a good chance that you will successfully hatch some turkeys. Um and just think like one good nest that hatches on your farm means maybe a dozen more turkeys in that small area. Uh so if if say every landowner did some work to um better the odds of a successful nest, successful hatch of turkeys in their area, like the population will I feel like would explode. Now, I'm not a biologist, I don't know all this stuff, but it makes sense to me. Um so if you're um you know eager and willing to do a little work on your home farm, that's great. Go out there, uh trap some predators, create some habitat, maybe do a control burn, do some research, look up some YouTube videos of what um what you can do to help the turkey population. And I think that you'll see that it's relatively easy and somewhat high reward. If you can successfully hatch some turkeys, then I think you'll want to do it again next year or keep that up, right? Anyway, moving on from that, one topic I want to talk about is reaping turkeys. So my special guest here today on the podcast, if you're watching the YouTube video, is um my Tom Turkey decoy. Also, if you guys are watching or listening on Apple Music or sorry, Apple Podcast or Spotify, please give us a like, give us a follow, share with your buddy, um, subscribe on YouTube, like the video. That stuff helps out, certainly helps um helps get some more views, helps get the name out there, and I'd surely appreciate it. Um like I said, today, special guests. We've got my turkey decoy. Um decoys have come a long way. Um I know like Avian X is a they have great decoys, turkey decoys, especially, and then Dave Smith decoys are another um highly sought-after, very valuable, um, very realistic turkey decoy. Um, and and kudos to those guys, they do a great job. Um, I actually have a half strut Jake by Avian X that I really like. Um I actually don't use it a ton, but it it looks really good. I'll give them that. Um but I just want to show you guys this old Tom decoy. So I'm gonna say probably 10 years ago, I started seeing videos on YouTube of people reaping turkeys, and that really intrigued me. Um just a different method, you know, like we'd all been part of you call them in, um, call them in with no decoys, you call them in with a decoy, it's been great. Um, but you know, I I remember showing my dad, like, look at this, these guys are hiding behind a decoy, and these turkeys are running right up to it, and they're shooting them. And my dad's like, that wouldn't work, you know. How are they doing that? Like, I can't believe that would work. Well, I convinced him to help me build this turkey decoy. So this was like an old, I don't even know what brand it is, maybe like a Primos or something. I I truly don't know. It's just like a rubber shell almost, it's hollow. Um, it's got whatever, a painted head. So we took this decoy, and my dad being the very creative, um creative, can build anything guy he is, he built this little Metal framework inside. And we also, if you can see in the video, we put these skis on it. And these skis are actually like some cheap bow that we cut in half and use the limbs like plastic limbs off of like this kid's bow. And we put a handle in the back. And this was going to be my new reaping decoy. The idea was it will slide across the ground and you can sneak up behind it, right? It's a pretty good size decoy, if you can if you can tell that. At some point in its life, I've lost the fake beard that was on it, and I've zip tied a small tail feather to it that's about six inches long and in place of a beard. And I want to tell you that this decoy has killed a lot of turkeys. I use it like a just a full strat decoy. A lot of times I'll hunt with just a hen and this contraption here. One downfall is the wind likes to blow it over. It's not real, like it doesn't have a stake, so it just kind of sits there. And if it's real windy, that tail fan will catch a lot of wind and maybe knock it over. But fancy decoys are great, but they are a big investment. And I'm just saying I've had good luck with this thing. And I don't think it's because it's painted a certain way or because it looks super realistic. I mean, like the paint is wore off the head right here. I think what does it is the real fan. Um, I think you throw a real fan on any decoy, it's gonna work pretty good. Um, additionally, I think this decoy is pretty big, like more realistic to a life-size gobbler, and I think some full strut decoys are pretty small, like almost like half the size, and then you put a real fan on it and it just doesn't look right. But yeah, I've used this thing a ton for setting up, you know, on a bird with a hen decoy, maybe a Jake to, I don't know. I kind of switch it up just to see, but I do like the hen and the strutter decoy. Um, from that, say something happens where they won't come in, they hang up out in the field, whatever it may be. I like to reap turkeys. It's fun, it's an adrenaline rush. There's gonna be people that disagree with me that it's not sportsmanlike. I don't care. It's a blast. Um, it's not my go-to method. I I would rather sit down and call a bird in with no decoy. That's option number one. Sometimes it just seems like it's gonna work best, or you're set up good to use a decoy. And I may start with that on the morning. If I know where a bird's roosted and want them to, you know, fly down and come right to me, I'll probably use a decoy. But as far as maybe striking up a bird late afternoon or middle of the morning, um, I'd like to set up on them and call them in without a decoy. But always in my tool belt as an option, if I need it, is reaping a turkey. I haul this thing around in the truck with me, and it has come in handy. I truly don't know how many turkeys I've reaped. Probably only half a dozen, maybe. And I bet this decoy has seen every bit of a dozen turkeys killed on top of that, if not more. I mean, I've taken it with myself, with my nephew, with my buddies, um, with my old man. Uh it's just it's been a long way. I've packed it a lot, it's terrible to pack, but I like to have that thing with me. And like I said, some things just don't go as planned, and you gotta put a reap on one, and it's a blast. Uh just I don't know. You gotta get a bird in the right mood as well, right? Um, I've had them with hens. One of the first times I think I actually did it, there was two gobblers that had a group of hens, and I kind of start like you're not gonna call those birds off. Yeah, they had like ten hens. You're not gonna call those birds off of those those hens. Um, maybe if you're an expert caller, I'm not. Um but I recall I snuck up along this field edge, and when they saw me, they started pushing those hens into the corner of this field, and I just kept going, just kept crawling behind it. Um kind of was in a little bit taller grass to help hide my body, you know. And finally I just got close enough that they got uncomfortable, and here they come, full strap come running, and I rolled one. Um, and then I was kind of hooked after that. Like, just coming in that close, it's just a blast. Um if you catch a bird out in the field, you know, you see him strutting there a couple days that week, like that's where he wants to be. He's gonna spend most of his day there, and you're gonna have a hard time calling him out of that. But when they've got hens and you can whatever pop up overhill with that tail fan, that usually gets their attention and they come running. So I don't care if you don't like it, it's an absolute blast. I've got some cool videos doing it. I've got some hellacious adrenaline rushes reaping turkeys. Um, it is a true method that works. Um, like I said, I don't do it all the time, but I do like to have that in my back pocket as an option. I think I I killed one last year with it as well. Uh just bird out in the field by himself. There was really no is pretty open, no good way to get set up on him. And I kind of just stuck this decoy out in the field edge, and here he came. I mean, he just come running. I crawled 20 yards and he cr he run 250. Like it's just crazy. I'll tell a quick story of like probably my favorite reap with this thing. So it was open and morning, Missouri turkey season. Excuse me. I think I no, I set up that morning, had a bird land off the roost, coming in, and he hung up at I think I had this decoy out too. He hung up at like 50 yards, and I was shooting a 410 that year. I just wanted to try it. 410 with a red dot, shooting TSS. And he hung up. I don't know what it was. Um, regardless, killing a turkey, they've got to be in the right mood. You can't just say, yep, there's a turkey, I'm gonna go get him. Like, they gotta be willing to play, they gotta be willing to come to a call, they gotta want to come to a decoy. Everything's really gotta be right. Um, but anyway, opening morning, this bird just hung up just short. Like it was almost picture perfect until it wasn't. Um, I drive home and there's a bird out in the field behind the house. I'm like, oh man. So I grab this guy, I'm like, I'm gonna go at right at this thing. Well, I actually end up getting on the other side of the road in our barn lot, and I start crawling across our barn lot. Like I'm I don't know, 100 yards from the house, I'm 50 yards from two barns, and this bird sees this decoy from across the road, comes running, crosses the road, comes up in this field, and comes full strut coming right at me. And I, I don't know, raised up and smoked him at 20 yards. Like I've never ever ever seen a turkey in this location in my life. So I don't know, it just adds a whole nother, I don't know, makes it awesome. It's a whole nother aspect to turkey hunting. It's just another experience, something different you can do, something that works. Um, so I'd encourage you to try it. I wouldn't try it on public land just because there can be other people out there, you don't know how safe they are, you know. Um I myself am pretty good at identifying my target, but you hear those horror stories, and some people that you may know that are going turkey hunting, you're like, yeah, I wouldn't want to be reaping a turkey on the same property that they're hunting. So that's something to keep in mind. Don't do it on public land. You may not want to do it on land where other people have permission either. Just um just to be safe, right? Be cautious. If you're out in the middle of a wide open field, you can feel pretty good about it because no one's gonna shoot that far, you would think. Um, but just be careful if you're doing it. Um practice gun safety too, and you know, crawling through a field with a gun can be kind of dangerous, especially if you're you know going with two people. Um, I have had two guys, two full grown men, myself and another one behind this decoy sneaking up on birds, um, and they come right in. So it can happen and it cannot happen. On the topic of reaping, I've got like an umbrella that opens up. I've got a full strut one and a Jake one. Just I bought them, you know, weak moment, saw them at a show, had to have them, and they don't work as good as this for sure. Um, I think the 2D has something to do with it, and then the umbrella style full strut one is too big. Like it's between three and four foot wide, I bet. Like it hides you really good, but it just it's unrealistically big, and I don't think the turkeys like it. Some takeaways, you don't have to have a high dollar decoy. Slap a real fan on a large, ugly, cheaper decoy, and it's gonna work pretty good for you, I believe. I've been running a flex stone hen. Does the avian hen look better? Probably. Does the flex stone hen work? Yeah, I think it does. So you guys do what you want with decoys, but I'm just telling you that this old cheap, wore out, half-homemade decoy has seen a lot of birds killed and is going to continue to kill a lot of birds. Um, I'll be using it this year. I I just I like it. Um I always take pictures with the with the birds too when I kill one, just to like for my own memory, just to recall. Yep, I use a decoy on that one or whatever it may be. But anyway, if you guys are still listening, I just want to say thanks for listening. Thanks for being part of this. I hope you guys are successful turkey hunting this year. Um I plan on just hunting Missouri. I might get a wild hare, go to another state, and try to kill a bird somewhere else, somewhere I haven't killed one before. Uh you never know. Could be an interesting spring. I'll certainly get out as much as I can. I'd like to get my own two birds. I like to tag along with my dad or a couple buddies just to like assist them in getting a bird. Not that they need my help, but just to be there, to experience it. Might shoot some video, might help them call in a little bit. You know, like I said, if you can back up behind them and call, whatever it may be. Um, I just like turkey hunting. Um I just want to be out there, just want to see some turkeys get killed, just want to have that experience. Um, I always joke, like, I always say, turkey hunting is like the most fun. Your average turkey hunt is gonna be like the most fun hunt. Your average hunt, because you're like always in them. You're always hearing goblin. Um, you're always maybe seeing a bird, even, and it just doesn't quite work out. Um, like a good deer hunt where you kill a big buck, that'd be better, in my opinion. But your average deer hunt is pretty boring compared to a turkey hunt. So I don't know. I love turkey hunting. Can't wait for spring. About a month now from this release date is when the season's gonna open. So if you guys are going, be safe, have fun, um, and good luck. Uh, I also want to say if you guys know anybody who loves turkey hunting and wants to talk on the podcast, let me know. I'd be happy to have a guest on talk about turkey hunting, tell some stories, especially throughout the season. Like, I'm hopefully gonna grab some buddies here locally and they kill a bird. Like, I want to hear their story. We'll try to record it and get it on the podcast. But and I'll be sharing my own stories as well. So uh, yeah, that being said, thank you guys for listening, and we'll catch you on the next episode. Y'all have fun.