Murder by Death - 1976

Is this movie a classic? Does it still hold up? How about this cast? Join us, and let's find out! 

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:01

All right. We are recording Chris Weville. This is Johnny Cardinale. You are Chris Weville. And we are a Century of Movies podcast. I'm recording from my hotel room here, as we were just talking about before we started recording. In my um hotel room here in Orlando. I I don't know if I've ever talked about this on our podcast, but I travel a lot as a stand-up comedian, and right now I'm doing a lot of cruise ships. So I got off a ship in Port Canaveral two days ago. I've been at this hotel for three days. Tomorrow I fly to San Juan, Puerto Rico, get on another ship. So that's why I don't have my usual headphones on, and I don't even have a mic stand. I forgot to bring my mic stand. So we're just gonna go holding a mic as if I was a stand-up comedian.

SPEAKER_05 0:46

Yeah, you got a lot of practice at that, luckily.

SPEAKER_01 0:49

Yeah, exactly. So uh what's been going on with you, man? How's everything in Charlotte?

SPEAKER_05 0:53

Everything's great. Uh, we're all prepping for uh the the heat, the humidity to come cruising in here. We got a little taste of it last weekend. It was high 90s. Uh oh man. Dude, and that that humidity, dude. It's uh two things I miss about California the most can't find a good margarita and the humidity.

SPEAKER_01 1:13

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I I I I tell you, I'm from Cleveland originally. I had not lived there since I was 10, but I lived there during the pandemic for two years. It was not the snow that I think about like who they got me. It was and the snow is bad, yeah, but it was that humidity, man. I mean, I because I like to jog outdoors, and there was times I was like, I feel like I was gasping for breath. Like I just not I'm not used to it. And you know, on cruise ships, I'm in that all the time. Sometimes I don't even get off the ship. Where if we're in like Nassau or you know, these nice I'm uh dude, Costa Rica, Jamaica, it doesn't matter. Sometimes I'll just stay in my cabin where I can stay cool.

SPEAKER_05 1:49

Oh, I believe it. Um, and part of my job is not only outside, um, but then I also have to do like attic inspections for roofing. Oh, yeah, man. It's like it's like being in a bowl of soup. I mean, it's brutal. So other than that though, man, everything's great. Everywhere everyone's cruising, everything's awesome.

SPEAKER_01 2:11

So just uh just get ready for a little heat. That's all. There you go. How's the house? House coming along.

SPEAKER_05 2:17

House is coming along. I uh discovered what I've really known all along, and that's just that I'm not really that handy.

SPEAKER_01 2:23

Um trial and error, but I did put up some finishing trim in one of the rooms, did a lot of painting, did someone you learn as you go, and with YouTube videos, it's all it's made things way different than it used to be.

SPEAKER_05 2:37

Oh, yeah, yeah. And I bought a uh fridge for my garage. So I have a beer fridge in my garage. Now you're official. All right. That's the hype.

SPEAKER_01 2:47

Now I might make a trip over and come visit.

SPEAKER_05 2:49

Now I got it's the Johnny Cardinali beer fridge.

SPEAKER_01 2:52

I was waiting for that.

SPEAKER_05 2:54

Yep. So all right.

SPEAKER_01 2:55

So shall we get into murder by death 1976? All right, we're gonna I want to start before we even get rolling with this. So our last two movies were pretty intense. Uh uh, network and then the social network. Pretty intense movies with a lot of uh heavy plot stuff and a lot of you know heavy dialogue, incredible writers. Um, Patty Chaevsky and then um why am I saying?

SPEAKER_05 3:22

Sorkin.

SPEAKER_01 3:22

Aaron Sorkin. And guess what? Even though this is a silly, this is this is another heavy writer, Neil Simon, maybe not heavy, but an incredibly talented writer. Yeah, so what I didn't even think that when I suggested this. I th I suggested this movie uh because A, I hadn't seen it in a long time. I didn't I I had a feeling you probably had never seen it or never even heard of it, but I wasn't sure. That's what I want to ask you right now. So, had you ever seen or heard of this movie before I brought it up?

SPEAKER_05 3:49

I definitely had never seen it. I'm sure I've heard of it. Um, but uh also maybe not because when you told me the title, I was like, Murder by death? What uh that's a bizarre title. So maybe I never even heard of it. Um, but I had definitely never seen it for sure.

SPEAKER_01 4:03

Oh, so that I was actually really glad because I wanted to see because it's such an odd ball choice. Yes, that I I was interested to see what your thoughts are. Now, for those of you who do who haven't listened to the intro of the podcast, the this podcast came about because me personally, I like movies older, and I mean 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s. That's pretty much my favorite for the last five, six years. Not exactly your forte. So I picked a movie between before 1980, you pick a movie 1980 and after, and then we go back and discuss. So this one is 1976, obviously, one of my picks, but also this particular movie and as I learned watching this again, go, oh man, it helps if you have a knowledge of some of these old um uh movie and book um uh uh detectives and who they are spoofing, which I do because I watch these actual movies. So that's why it's gonna be interesting to see for me to see your take on this.

SPEAKER_05 5:05

Yep. And I definitely have some thoughts as well. Uh we'll get I was I'm sure we'll get into. I got some thoughts.

SPEAKER_01 5:12

I could imagine. So I did you what do you anything? Do you know anything, or had you know anything besides just hearing the name Bot Neil Simon?

SPEAKER_05 5:21

Uh well, I just know he's an incredible playwright. Um, I've read a couple of his plays before. Um it's been forever. Um, but I don't think I'd ever seen any of his films before. Um, so obviously I knew who he was, slightly familiar with his work. I believe this is the first movie I've ever seen of his, though.

SPEAKER_01 5:39

I'm pretty sure this was the first screenplay he wrote specifically for the for the film. You know, he was a guy, he's on record as saying that he that he thinks um playwrights are are I mean more elevated, more sophisticated. He his logic was playwriting goes way back 2,000 years to the Greeks, whereas movie movie writing goes back whatever, 100 years or something, right? And um, so he's always been more obviously known as a um you know playwright, and that's where his love passion was. However, I believe he was nominated for four Academy Awards for writing. So, you know, his stuff translates pretty well.

SPEAKER_05 6:17

Yeah, it's it must be nice to just write amazing plays and then be like, oh, maybe I'll give this movie thing a shot and uh also mail that.

SPEAKER_01 6:25

So yeah, you know, it's funny. When I was watching this, he he, Neil Simon, does he started to remind me of quite a bit about uh of uh Woody, what Woody Allen, yeah. It turns out way you know, both both New Yorkers, both Jewish, both have a similar kind of look, both have a way with words, yeah, uh the dialect. And turns out way back in the day, the Sid Caesar show, I believe it was Sid Caesar, so yeah, the show of shows, whatever, as young writers coming up, they both at one time wrote for the same show. Wow. So I I would wonder if I I would love to know if those two ever sat down to lunch and just had a discussion, talked about writing, talk about comedy or you know, or whatnot, you know.

SPEAKER_05 7:03

Oh, yeah. That I mean that's incredible thought just to be like, what are you working on? Oh, though, I'm doing this. So, what do you got going on?

SPEAKER_01 7:08

Oh, I'm trying this, like yeah, just just to hear two minds of that caliber. So you you mentioned it before we hit record. Yeah, this cast.

SPEAKER_05 7:20

Oh my god. I mean, this this cast is is the whole movie for me. Um, uh it's just absolutely incredible. And it's funny because there's like people I a lot of people that I recognized, but nobody whose name I could really fire off, uh like right off the top of the head, besides like Peter Falk, probably. Um, and then but there was a whole lot of like, oh, there's that guy, oh, there's that, oh, there's this. Uh, and then when I, you know, I watched it, and then when I was looking through everything, I was like, oh my god, this is uh this is like an all-star cast for this era for sure.

SPEAKER_01 7:55

It really, really is.

SPEAKER_05 7:56

Yeah, and you're gonna know more about this than me because I I'm not familiar with a lot of these people, but I I I I'm guessing you're familiar with you were familiar, maybe not this character.

SPEAKER_01 8:06

Obviously, this is far and away different than in pretty much anything you ever did, but Alec Guinness. Yep, yep, yep. Um and Peter Sellers, of course, whose character we can talk about a little bit later in the movie.

SPEAKER_05 8:19

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 8:20

Uh, but I let's just run down the cast before we talk about the individually, as far as uh how impressive this cast is. Eileen Brennan, Oscar nominated, James Coco, Oscar nominated, Peter Falk, multiple Oscar nominated, multiple Emmy winner, Alec Guinness, uh Sir Alec Guinness, knighted, Academy Award winner, uh uh Tony Award winner, uh Lisa Lanchester, Academy nominated, David Niman, Academy Award winner, Peter Sellers, Academy Award nominated, Maggie Smith, one of maybe the top five most honored decorated artists in British history. Oscar, Tony, Emmy, uh one of the few uh to win the Triple Crown of Acting. Uh Knighted, or whatever, Dame, sorry, Dame. I don't know how that all works. Nancy Walker, although mostly a TV actress, certainly had a long, uh, long career and uh did some directing too. And then Estelle Winwood, who lived to be 101 years old, also a long I mean, this what the hell?

SPEAKER_05 9:26

I mean, incredible, uh, incredible cast. And a lot of these people, I'm gonna be honest, like I have not heard of uh Maggie Smith, Nancy Walker, Estelle Winwood. Um, I know obviously the hits, and that's it. And that's why I love doing this podcast because I was really blown away by the entire cast top the bottom.

SPEAKER_01 9:44

When you start looking it up, right?

SPEAKER_05 9:46

Well, and just the performances, like, oh my god, look at these people I've never heard of, and the talent that is going on here is just uh was very cool to see.

SPEAKER_01 9:54

Oh, and you know, you know who we didn't even mention is uh James Cromwell. His in his very first in his very first uh film performance.

SPEAKER_05 10:01

Was it okay?

SPEAKER_01 10:02

I was even though he did one of the worst French accents I've ever heard.

SPEAKER_05 10:07

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:08

Whoa, what the fuck? The the boons okay, take it.

SPEAKER_05 10:13

I well, it's funny because I I was watching it and I was like, oh, I guess I've seen this guy or whatever. I was like halfway through the movie before I realized it wasn't so young.

SPEAKER_01 10:24

Yeah, he's so I think I think he was like 32, but he's so uh specific looking to me. And you know, my favorite movie of the last what 30 years is LA Confidential. And uh uh by far. And uh and in that movie, he almost steals that movie from me, James Cromwell. Yeah, so I'm just a huge fan of that guy. And I you know, this was a bizarre little role for him, but it was funny to see him in it as well.

SPEAKER_05 10:52

Yeah, uh, talk about a movie with a great cast, my lord. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 10:56

Another one. Yeah, so I was I saw a little interview with Neil Simon talking about murder by death. And by the way, this movie did pretty good at the at the box office. It wasn't massive, it wasn't a certainly a bomb. Uh it did it did pretty good. Um at the time that this came out, a lot of Agatha Christie m books had been turned. There was a lot in the 1970s, like uh Death on the Nile and Murder on the Orient Express. These were like movies, I believe they were TV movies, but they were very popular. So he was just spoofing you know what was really popular at the time, which was you know, this is how they came about this. And then he even talked about it, and he said that you know, when he was talking with the producers of he goes, you know, this is who I'd like to get actor-wise. So, like, great, we'll get him. He goes, Really? He goes, he couldn't believe that they got everybody he wanted. He goes, You're kidding.

SPEAKER_05 11:57

He's like, Man, Hollywood is actually pretty cool. I could just cast anybody I want like when you're Neil Simon, you know what I mean? No, um, it's funny because I was watching this and I started to have a feeling that this obvious, I mean, obviously it's a parody spoof, but I was thinking, like, uh, is this based on uh um murder on the Orient Express? Because I was trying to think of something that it could have been based on. Um, and then afterwards I was looking into some stuff and I was like, Oh, okay. So, you know, I was I was kind of close.

SPEAKER_01 12:28

It very close. It's actually, it was actually like loosely based. Yeah, I got the Christy, but and then there were none.

SPEAKER_05 12:35

Right.

SPEAKER_01 12:36

Which is uh which is a takeoff of uh Ten Little Indians. Uh and then there were none. Uh I I watched that movie uh maybe a year ago. It's good, it's one of those things where they're all it's another one of those movies where they're all in the house and they all keep getting knocked off one by one. So you know, that's pretty much probably the the main you know uh comparison. Yeah, which I've never heard of, but yeah, and you know, and we haven't even mentioned acting wise Truman Capote, right?

SPEAKER_05 13:05

Yeah, that was that was like a crazy little cameo there.

SPEAKER_01 13:08

I uh I are you as a writer yourself, are you a Truman Capote guy? I know he wasn't much a he wasn't a huge screenplay guy, he was a more of a book guy, but you know, Breakfast of Tiffany, In Cold Blood.

SPEAKER_05 13:19

Yeah, um, to be honest, I don't know a whole lot about him. I've I saw In Cold Blood, I've never read any of his actual books.

SPEAKER_01 13:25

It's funny. I I've never seen the movie, but I read the book in Cold Blood.

SPEAKER_05 13:30

Oh, interesting. And that's the Kansas, the the murder of family in Kansas. Yeah, it's been forever, but uh everything I've seen on him or heard on him is just how eccentric he is and just how bizarre. Um, and obviously Philip Seymour Hoppin won the Oscar portraying him.

SPEAKER_01 13:47

So uh totally forgot about that.

SPEAKER_05 13:49

Yeah, yeah, he beat Joaquin for uh Walk the Line, which I had a little issue with, but uh really yeah, I thought Joaquin was great in Walk the Line, but I thought he won the Academy Award for that movie.

SPEAKER_01 14:00

No, he lost the uh no. I know I know that yeah, no, I I love that movie and I loved Joaquin's performance. I cannot I didn't see um the other one. I didn't see uh uh uh what's the name of the movie where he played Capote?

SPEAKER_05 14:14

Uh I uh is it called Capote? No, is it called In Cold Blood? I can't remember actually now off the top of my head.

SPEAKER_01 14:21

But I know which movie you're talking about, but it and it's funny, I could just totally picture Philip Seymour Hoffman. And and in a weird, bizarre sort of uh coincidence, I guess, both of them had major struggles with you know the liquor, the alcohol, you know, and and in fact, when when Capote was making this movie, uh they wanted him off of it. The director and Neil Simon wanted him off because he's just like you said, eccentric, but also he wasn't an actor. Right, he wasn't used to these long days on set. They said he forgot his lines, he wouldn't hit his marks, he's just so eccentric. I thought he what did you think of his uh of him in this movie?

SPEAKER_05 15:00

Just I thought he was great. I I was like like the cat. Let's uh the cast is obviously, in my opinion, what what works about this whole thing, and I just kept being like, Oh, here's another guy because he doesn't come in till later. Exactly like, wait, another eccentric character?

SPEAKER_02 15:21

What the fuck?

SPEAKER_05 15:22

Yeah, where are they finding these people? Like, yeah, it was it was awesome. And that was another one I didn't put that together either at first, who it was. Um I was definitely like, uh, that like oh that guy looks familiar too. And then as I kind of went back and and looked through stuff, I was like, Oh shit, that was Capote. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 15:40

Yeah, and you know, it's a good point that you make because after we establish all these heavy characters, all so specific, a little bit, a little elevated, a little bit bigger. We need somebody big to be Lionel Twain, and yeah, Capote, in my opinion, perfect, yeah, so weird, so eccentric that you actually bought that this guy would put this whole thing together, right?

SPEAKER_05 16:00

And live in this crazy ass house, and then yeah, he walks in and you're like, Oh, yeah, all right.

SPEAKER_01 16:06

Yep, this is all making sense now.

SPEAKER_05 16:09

Yep, yep.

SPEAKER_01 16:09

Yeah, anybody else, like like somebody more normal or something, I just don't think it would have worked.

SPEAKER_05 16:15

No, like very few people. I like off the top of my head, especially you would know better than me in this in this um era. Although I I do I do know quite a bit about the 70s, but you would know better than me.

SPEAKER_01 16:28

Who else could well like I said, one guy that comes to mind for me, just because he's such a great actor and he probably would have made some choices, is uh Hackman, Gene Hackman. You know, yeah, because he you know he could do anything, but because Capote was such a built-in character on himself, he didn't have to try to be weird or eccentric, he just is, yeah. He just really is, you know. So you didn't see like this acting stuff, you know. It's I when I lick think back way back to uh when I was young when I first saw this, and even when I had always I I'd seen bits and pieces of it through the years, but never really said all these years until I watched it again. I thought Peter Falk was doing Columbo in this, you know what I mean? Yeah, just because you associate that with him, he's a detective. I didn't realize he was doing Sam Spade until I go, oh, and here's my little uh I have a little Peter Falk uh complete tangent to go off for what real quick. So when I came to move to Hollywood to get into you know comedy acting or whatever, my first I got a job at a bank right on Hollywood Boulevard, but my I saw an ad in Backstage West tour guide universal studio for the summer when busy time, you know. So I went and I uh you had to go there and you had to literally audition. And I auditioned to be a tour guide. It's a long you go to class for like two weeks, and uh, this is me on the weekends. I'm still working my day job, but on the week I go to class and then we have to uh we're all young people, all small everybody wanted to be an actor. I want to be a comedian, maybe an actor or whatever. I don't know what the hell I want to do. Just wanted a summer job working on a studio lot, you know, big time stuff. And my buddy Ron, uh he was uh he was uh a little bit older than all of us. And he and he I remember he was he come, he he'd had a corporate marketing job, he just hated it, he hated his life. He quit and he just had some savings. Go, I'm just gonna be a tour guy. And he on his days off, he would uh get his resume and go get because we had access to get on the lot, which was a big deal back then. You know, get past get past the gate. And but we we were up on top where the trams were, but he would walk down to where the studios were and the bungalows were where people were producers and stuff had their offices, actors had their offices. Yeah, and he would just he would just knock on doors and walk in and say, Hey guys, I'm just looking for an entry-level job. Here's my resume. You know, he was a corporate guy, a graduate, and he ended up getting hired by Peter Falk as his assistant. You know what I mean? Oh my god, and he was Peter Falk's assistant for years. And here's a funny story. Uh, so Ron one time called me and he goes, Hey man, I'm at Peter's office. This is at nighttime. He goes, You want to come down and help me out with some stuff, and then we'll go get dinner afterwards. I'm like, sure. He goes, Great. He got me clearance to go on the lot at night. You know, I get pulled up to the gate, Johnny Cardinelli. Oh, yeah, right this way, park over there. I go walk into so, dude, we're in Peter Falk's office, probably about seven o'clock at night. What we're doing is we're putting labels on these envelopes and putting DVDs in the envelope, mailing to every member of the academy a little uh so for uh Peter Falk's performance to be so he could be nominated for I can't remember if it was an Emmy or an Oscar, but I'm looking at all these home addresses, Spielbergs, you know. I mean, all these huge people. I'm like, whoa, and I'm new in Hollywood, so this is all blowing my mind. Anyway, we're getting ready to leave. Again, it's pretty dark out, except for the office we're in. I'm walking down the hallway and I see this gorgeous blonde girl walking with this with this really short older guy and this, you know, some other young guy, I didn't even notice the young guy that much, but three people. But I'm just looking at this girl going, Who is this? This gotta be a famous actress, right? Just statues, blonde girl. I remember she had a suit jacket on and these nice jeans. And I just I'm looking at her, and the old guy's talking, but I'm not paying attention. I walk by, I'm like, I didn't recognize her, and then you know, whatever. And then Ron comes up later and goes, Hey man, did you see who that was? I go, nah. He goes, That was Al Pacino.

SPEAKER_00 20:17

It was Pacino, the old guy rambling on.

SPEAKER_04 20:19

I didn't even look at that. Oh my god. Oh, wow. That's hilarious. And you never found out who the blonde was?

SPEAKER_01 20:25

No, never did. And uh, but anyhow, yeah, so I I actually met Peter Falk briefly uh a few times. Cool. I went to his birthday party at Michelli's. Remember Michelli's on Koenga? Yeah, Italian restaurant. I went there. Um, you know, Peter was considerably older at the time, but and and then and then just another another off shoot for whatever reason. Recently I have started binging Colombo, which I never watched. I never watched an episode, dude. On our tour guide, we used to go by the car, this famous Peugeot would be parked right there. Ladies and gentlemen, do you know what car that people are like, oh my god, that's Columbo's car. They take pictures, it was just parked on the side, you know, not like a big traction, it was just literally parked right there. Huh, which we you know, we we were we were advised to point it out if we saw it, right? And uh, and I never and I'm watching it right now. Over the last two months, I've been binging Colombo and I fucking love it, man. It's an awesome show, yeah, dude. Highly recommend. Okay, highly recommend.

SPEAKER_05 21:21

Yeah, all right, good. Because I uh funny enough, I started binging the A team. Um I was dead serious. I went back to the pilot and uh all things and so I'm looking for older shows than like just just I have it on the background while I'm doing other stuff at the house, it's incredible.

SPEAKER_01 21:40

Um, so maybe I'll switch to Columbo because I and just in a in a fit of coincidence or irony or whatever, one of the other vehicles used to always be parked when I was doing my tram tours was the A Team van. Ladies and gentlemen, if you look over there to my right, you'll see the eight, and people take pictures of the A Team van. Of course. This is back when we were Universal. Studios had all these massive rides and everything. It was we had the we had the um this the Jaws thing, and if you look past the Jaws thing, that's where the beginning, the opening for Murder She Wrote was, and all that kind of. I mean, it was a fun little tour back. But I used to do I used to do that tour five times a day and have to, I used to always have to act surprised when I saw things. Oh my god, look to my right. It was hilarious, man.

SPEAKER_05 22:22

What a fun gig, though.

SPEAKER_01 22:23

That's oh dude, it was so it was such a blast, such a blast. But anyhow, I messaged Ron two days ago, and I go, because him and I live like within blocks of each other now. And I go, dude, we got together. He went on, he went on after becoming after Peter Fall, you know, because Peter Fall passed away. He ended up becoming Mike Ovitz's assistant when Mike Ovitz was what was the most powerful man in Hollywood. Ron was one of his five assistants. He was uh Barry Diller's assistant as well. So he's been on he's he's got some interesting stories about some very high powerful guys in Hollywood back in the day.

SPEAKER_03 22:54

I bet, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:55

Yeah, so that was my little Peter Fall tangent. And by the way, uh this movie, uh, do you have a favorite character, favorite actor, or or in this movie, or who you think maybe dominated, or etc.

SPEAKER_05 23:09

Um, I am probably gonna go with I it's it's really hard. I don't know. Peter Falk, I I'll probably go with him. Uh I I just there was just something about him. He was so obviously doing like a caricature, but I I probably laughed the most at him.

SPEAKER_01 23:32

He he he came on the screen and it felt like things changed. It just got it just got better whenever he was there. Yeah, and I think that's why they introduced him. He was doing, by the way, uh Humphrey Bogart the whole time. Sam from like the Maltese Falcon.

SPEAKER_05 23:46

Yeah, yeah. Well, dude, and that's funny because it actually kind of reminded me of that.

SPEAKER_01 23:51

That's who he that's literally who he was doing. Uh Humphrey Bogart impression, but he's so Columbo that you're going, it's kind of Columbo too.

SPEAKER_05 23:59

Right. Yep, yep. Um, but yeah, I I mean that's that's that's a tough call. There was a lot of talent in this, but yeah, I'm gonna go with uh with uh Fall for sure.

SPEAKER_01 24:08

Uh just in just in a little, which just it just dawned on me for those of you listening to our uh who have been following and listening to our uh podcast, please review and and all that kind of stuff. But our one of our first movies was was it the first one was a Maltese was the Maltese Falcon. So now we're coming around again. I didn't even it just didn't even dawn on me till right now that you've already seen the Maltese Falcon. Yeah, uh he's the guy Peter Falk is the guy who uh is most most people consider the guy who kind of owned this movie, yeah. And uh and Neil Simon liked him so much in this movie that he wrote The Cheap Detective for Peter Falk, which is which is a sequel to this movie, which I've never seen. Which now I'm now I'm going to. But Peter Falk and Eileen Brennan both reprised their roles in uh in the cheap detective. Yeah, so okay, yeah. Well, let me know how that is. Yeah, I'm gonna definitely check that out.

SPEAKER_05 25:04

Um, but how about you? Who was your is Falk your your favorite character, also?

SPEAKER_01 25:08

Or he he was just because I love Peter Falk, but there's certain scenes with Alec Guinness, dude. Yeah, where this guy was not known for comedy, not known for silliness. There's certain what I I there's just specific scenes where I'm going, God is so funny, so fucking funny when he's when when he opens a door in the kitchen for the maid, and she comes walking in, and then he feels around and he feels down and he feels her face, and he goes down to her breast. Oop, you know, he he realized she's a woman, you know. Just a quick moment when and then when he's yelling at her facing the wrong way, you are fired, and she's sitting behind him, he goes to the door and stay out, and she's sitting on the table. Oh I thought it was so for for for Alec Guinness to be doing this stilly stuff. Uh uh, I I just I just thought he was so good. And we can talk about it at the very end, too, when he becomes all those different characters. Yeah, uh, I I I just I just you know, you nobody had ever seen, and from what I heard, he took this movie kind of like he needed a paycheck. You know, this is a paycheck movie, and and uh, you know, I'm guessing Neil Simon's name attached is not a bad thing, but you know, it's Alec Guinness, he's used to doing higher elevated stuff. And do you know what movie he uh what script he was reading while he was filming this?

SPEAKER_05 26:32

Star Wars?

SPEAKER_01 26:33

Yep. Neil Simon said he was he was, you know, Neil Simon was such a huge Neil Simon said point blank, he goes, he was most in awe of Alec Guinness on set. And he told him, he goes, he goes, hey, if there's anything in this movie that you don't like, let me know and I will rewrite it, I will change it. And and Alec Guinness says, No, he goes, This is wonderful. He goes, I don't get to do this kind of stuff very often. But then he goes, and Neil Simon goes, so one day I see him in between and he's reading this, and he goes, uh Neil Simon goes, What are you reading? He goes, uh, it's this this uh science fiction uh script Star Wars. He goes, That's I don't know, it seems like it it's kind of good. And then here's a little offshoot uh of of him filming Star Wars, which he famously didn't like, you know, uh Alec Innis didn't like after he did it and stuff. But he was given I it it it's people it it's it's not completely I don't know completely, but somewhere between uh 2% and 2.5% uh points to be in Star Wars, and and also he got a he got a better salary than he was used to, which is why he did it. And then he wrote in his journal, Alec Innis wrote in his journal, he goes, I hope this movie becomes big because they're saying it's gonna be big like Jaws, and I will end up making maybe 200,000 pounds off of it. All told, once all the monies were done, he made 95 million dollars off Star Wars. Can you imagine, dude?

SPEAKER_05 28:07

Incredible.

SPEAKER_01 28:08

But to go in 1976, he films this, and in 1977, he's Obi-Wan Kenobi. What a change, man. What an actor.

SPEAKER_05 28:18

Yeah, and has no idea the cultural impact he's about to have on the next several generations.

SPEAKER_01 28:25

Imagine being knighted. I think he was knighted in 1959. He's an Academy Award, he's a Tony Award winner, and his career is about and his career is about to completely hit the stratosphere at his age in 1977. It's wild.

SPEAKER_05 28:40

Yeah, it is. I didn't, yeah, I didn't even put all that together. I didn't know he was knighted. 1959.

SPEAKER_01 28:45

Yeah, I believe it was that that young, that early. Uh, by the way, uh it just she she didn't wasn't given a whole lot to do, but one of those things where everything, every move she made was fucking perfect, Maggie Smith.

SPEAKER_05 29:01

Uh yeah, which one was she?

SPEAKER_01 29:03

She was she uh it was she was uh David Niven's uh girl that the the uh Charlestons, the two rich Brits, the two rich Brits. Yep, yep, yep. She she was she I uh every uh every just every line that she was given. Now, do you know who did you do any do you know who those two characters are based off of who they're who they're parroting?

SPEAKER_05 29:22

Yeah, I did see that it is uh you said Maggie Smith, right?

SPEAKER_01 29:28

Maggie Smith and David Niven, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 29:31

Yeah, so uh uh The Thin Man?

SPEAKER_01 29:35

Yep.

SPEAKER_05 29:36

Which I don't know anything about either, but I was able to find some of that stuff.

SPEAKER_01 29:40

Yeah, The Thin Man, I think the first one was 1934, 39. It was a series, but it was these again. This is my era of watching movies. Yep, yep. William Powell and Myrna Lloyd, they were just these these two really lovable actors back then. Uh and and just their on-screen dynamic was so like fantastic. They were a married couple who all you know, but it was real comedy driven and kind of they they kind of just off the cup with each other. Uh and their their chemistry was so genuine, which you didn't see much and movies back then. Not that they other actors didn't have chemistry, but you could tell they were improvising with each other and filming it while I was filming, and it just worked, and and they became like everybody just loved the two of them so much that they ended up doing a ton of movies together. Uh a bunch of thin man uh movies together. They were probably that couple that back then everybody who loved Hollywood, of course, all you had was magazines back then, and uh everybody probably I mean, my guess is everybody hoped that they were would get married in real life, you know. I mean, because they look so perfect together on screen, yeah. But but anyhow, they Maggie Smith, her character in this movie, she's she's parodying Myrna Loy. They asked Myrna Loy to do the role, the actual Myrna Loy. Oh, wow, and she obviously would have been older, but she goes, she refused because she goes, It doesn't make sense for Myrna Loy to parody Myrna Loy. Good point, and she'll and she also said she goes, I don't want to have my ass grabbed by David Niven because there's a point where he pats her ass. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And and just going back to it, it's amazing how this all comes around and stuff, but I've been I've been binging uh Columbo, Peter Falk, season one, I believe was episode two, maybe even episode one, uh, or maybe it was season two, but Myrna Lloyd guest stars on Columbo. So small little world all intertwined in a weird way.

SPEAKER_05 31:36

Yeah, jeez. Yeah, okay. Yeah, I'd never I don't know anything about Finn Man. I don't know anything about yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:42

And you know, the thing is they were American. Um uh uh um um um William Powell is one of my favorite old actors. There, I he's just dude, he's so smooth. Everything he does, he just seems like this easygoing guy. So I I read some comment they said, um I thought it was just really great. Uh, they said William Powell is to dialogue with Fred Astaire is to dancing. I go, that's perfect. He's just he's it's like effortless the way he just kind of moves and and talks, and and you know, but anyhow, uh the two of them are not British, which is why I find it interesting that they got two Brits to parody these two characters that were not British to begin with, but but it still works.

SPEAKER_05 32:25

Oh, yeah, and to be honest, that doesn't surprise me with how just how fucking bizarre everybody was. But yeah, they were both incredible.

SPEAKER_01 32:35

Yeah, yeah. And then I don't want we can we can we can breeze through Eileen Brennan playing off Falk, fucking phenomenal dude. Oh, yeah. Some of her moments are so like just perfect timing. James Coco, hilarious. Like almost everything that guy did in this movie was just was just fantastic. Yeah. Um, you know who Elsa Lanchester is? Did you look her up at all?

SPEAKER_05 32:58

Uh I did not get to her. I got her right here, though.

SPEAKER_01 33:00

The bride of Frankenstein, oh nice, you know that famous thing with the hair, the gray hair in the middle. Yeah, I see.

SPEAKER_05 33:06

Yeah, oh my god, jeez.

SPEAKER_01 33:09

Yeah, wow.

SPEAKER_05 33:10

Yeah, oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 33:13

Uh awesome. She, I I you know, it's weird because her playing misses playing off of Miss Marple's, one of Agatha Christie's, of course. Um um Miss Marple playing, you know what she didn't really have a whole lot to do in this movie. Yeah, you know, she was introduced late, uh, because there's just her character, there's not a whole lot to spoof with her character. Yeah, and I and she doesn't have a maid. I think that was just added. Yeah, the maid she comes walking in with.

SPEAKER_05 33:43

Yep, yep, yep. Um, yeah, I was curious about what all that was about. I also thought it was Mrs. Marble. Uh so good to see that uh got that wrong. But um, yeah, I was also curious about that.

SPEAKER_01 33:56

Here's another another little oddball thing that I found out. Elsis Lessinger and Estelle Winwood is the lady in the wheelchair.

SPEAKER_03 34:03

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 34:04

Her her uh nurse. Estelle Winwood was, I believe, 94 at the time of this filming, and her and and Lenchester hated each other on set.

SPEAKER_05 34:15

Damn.

SPEAKER_01 34:16

They hated each other on set. I guess they had acted together in 1955. I don't know if anything had happened back then, but they they they were both strong-willed women, they were constantly trying to upstage each other, and they did not get along during the entire filming of this movie. Isn't that bizarre?

SPEAKER_05 34:34

It's 20 years lady, later, you know, like let's let it go.

SPEAKER_01 34:37

Well, no, that you're 94, she's in her 70s, guys. What you're what the fuck are you doing?

SPEAKER_05 34:42

You know, taking it to the grave.

SPEAKER_01 34:44

Yeah, they can't you know wild. Yeah, and uh they said I those two kind of play well off each other, I thought though. Yeah, again, didn't have a whole lot to do, but but you know, they they did their parts really well. Uh Estelle Winwood lived to be 101, by the way. She and she said she smoked three packs of cigarettes a day.

SPEAKER_05 35:01

So who knows? Good, yeah, yeah, nobody knows anything. You're gonna live till you till till that's it.

SPEAKER_01 35:07

Yeah, but I we can briefly talk about Peter Sellers. He was great in this movie because he's always great.

SPEAKER_05 35:12

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 35:13

There's no way this gets filmed today. Obviously, it's offensive, you know. Uh, even some of even some of uh uh Peter Fault's lines were offensive. Oh uh, you know, it's 1976, but also uh Charlie Chan, you know, was a famous, you know, 1950s, whatever. Charlie Chan was never played by an actual Asian actor, it was played by a Swedish guy, so they were kind of spoofing that in a way. Still doesn't make it right, I understand. Yeah, but you know, just I know people would get offended by it now, but uh you know, he was still funny as fuck, you know, because Peter Sellers.

SPEAKER_05 35:49

Um, that was probably my favorite line in the entire movie was every time he introduced this kid, he would say, This is my adopted son, because I'm adopted, and there's no why would you ever introduce anybody that way? I just thought that was the funniest shit ever. Oh, this is my adopted son. Like, why would you ever and on top of that?

SPEAKER_01 36:12

On top of that, it's usually my first adopted son. He was the third adopted son.

SPEAKER_05 36:18

Yes, yeah, like they yeah, they kept changing it and like peppering different things. I thought that was just incredible. I've never heard anything like that. That was so funny.

SPEAKER_01 36:26

Yeah, yeah. That again, watching this the second time, because I watched it twice for this. Yeah, some of the dialogue goes so fast and quick that you just you just miss it. Like, yeah, uh, it just it's a boom boom, just and you know, oh, that's a great, just such a great line that I didn't catch the first time.

SPEAKER_05 36:45

You know, you catch the big ones, and you you know, uh and there's so many, especially in the beginning, it's just like bang, bang, bang. And like when they're setting up the characters and everything, it's just like holy shit, yeah, it's really well done.

SPEAKER_01 36:59

Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. When they're driving in and David Nivitt's on the phone drinking a martini, you know, and it's like the phone's stripped. Well, what did it sound like?

SPEAKER_05 37:10

Snip, it's like and then yeah, when they're they stopped to hit the payphone, like this is uh this is a terrible place to get lost. And he's like, even worse would have been a couple miles back the road, like exactly.

SPEAKER_01 37:22

Yeah, just really quick. Uh Wang 300. Let us know Wayne has invited them for oh, I don't know. I'll just just getting them there. It was just like you said, all the characters are set except for Marple, who came up later, because there's nothing to set up for those two. Yeah, uh, so they they didn't introduce them to they were already at the at the house.

SPEAKER_03 37:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:45

Um but uh James sir. This is one of the ones here that I thought was funny. Uh what you know, the the you know, the Benson Mum.

SPEAKER_03 37:54

Yep, yep, yep.

SPEAKER_01 37:56

When when when David Nivens, you know, learning the name, he goes, uh James sir, Benson Mum. How odd. How odd? And then he goes, My father's name. Your father's name? My father's name was how odd. Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean? And then Maggie Smith, leave it, Dickie. I've had enough. That was one of the ones not meant to be a laugh out loud, and my second time watching that was one of my favorite lines. Leave it, Dickie. I've had enough with this with this whole name thing.

SPEAKER_05 38:28

Yeah, I like um the doors locked from the inside. That can only mean one thing. I have no idea what that is.

SPEAKER_01 38:35

I have no idea what it is. Yeah, there's so many great lines in here.

SPEAKER_05 38:39

Yeah, uh, yeah, it's it's too many. I tried to write some of them down, and I was like, Jesus, that's the same here.

SPEAKER_01 38:44

Man, I got like three pages, and I and it's like it doesn't matter because but the thing is, there's almost no plot to talk about, so might as well just talk about the fucking lines.

SPEAKER_05 38:53

Yeah, dude, that was like my big thing with this movie. It's like we get like halfway through before we realize any kind of a plot, really. Uh, whenever he shows up to the dinner party, because I was like, What the fuck am I watching? What is going on here?

SPEAKER_01 39:08

Dude, I think I marked it. I think we're at minute 49 when they finally all sat down to dinner.

SPEAKER_05 39:13

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_01 39:13

I had it in the album minute 49, or maybe maybe it was somewhere around there, but but I'm like, I was the same way. I'm like, what the fuck are we doing? How much intro do we need before we get on to the movie?

SPEAKER_05 39:25

Oh, just dicking around, but it's funny, it's entertaining. So I was like, Wow, whatever.

SPEAKER_01 39:30

Like, all right, and then not exactly that's exactly it. You're just like, fuck it, man. Let's just listen to the let's just listen to the the the funny because I there's this plot is not going, you know, we're not trying to make sense of this plot. Uh it's not gonna happen.

SPEAKER_05 39:45

No, no. Um, and I actually, I mean, you know, uh yes, there's a lot of offensive things in it, but um, you know, that was just the era back then, and I was like, oh my god, like that, like I forgot they used to make movies like this, like it was not a big deal.

SPEAKER_01 40:01

Exactly. Uh Diamond when he's first meeting um uh Sur Bensimum, when he he goes, I just just it's just such a great another just great Sam Diamond thing. Freeze, Blinky, turn around, Jeeves. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't test, don't test your luck, Shakespeare. Yeah, just what a fun character to play.

SPEAKER_05 40:21

Uh yeah, yeah. Yeah, so many good ones.

SPEAKER_01 40:26

And then when uh when uh Alec Guinness goes to the kitchen, nine o'clock, nine o'clock time for dinner, and he's sniffing and there's nothing going on. She's still just sitting there, yeah. She's in a little light on the seasoning. Are you?

SPEAKER_02 40:40

There's nothing a little light on the seasoning, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:46

And by the way, can we just stop real quick? Maggie Smith in that white gown. My god, dude. Yeah, I mean, just absolutely gorgeous. Yes, just man, does she feel that did she just look perfect? Like, like, just just like a everything a dame, and you know, an exalted sort of artist, female. Uh she just embodied it all, you know, and and while playing in a screwball comedy.

SPEAKER_05 41:13

That and that's the other thing, like to the cast, like some people you like I could feel like they kind of were in on the joke, but then there was other actors that were like, No, I'm playing this seriously, you know what I mean? Which made it so much funnier, you know. Oh, absolutely. That just took it, you could tell they took it so seriously. Um, it was great. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:36

I thought most of them, I thought most of them did like like were just really into their characters, hamming it up, yes, because they were all equally hamming, it all worked, you know.

SPEAKER_05 41:49

Yeah, that's a good way to put it. Yeah, hamming it up for sure.

SPEAKER_01 41:52

Man, like James, James Coco, almost everything that guy did was hilarious. Uh-huh. We'll get to we'll get to one of my favorite lines of the entire movie, you know, it's because it's towards the end. Okay. Uh all four. And then, you know, it's funny when when they're all finally get together and Sam Diamond, uh when Sam Diamond starts talking here all four together. The lady here in the rented dress, and she's always embarrassed by him. You know, I mean, Sam, sorry, sweetheart. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_05 42:21

It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then in the beginning, she's like, Can I get a kiss? And he's like, I don't kiss.

SPEAKER_01 42:26

Yeah, exactly.

unknown 42:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:28

And then and then he goes into canks, she goes, Please excuse Sam. He was shot in the head last week. He shouldn't even be out, you know.

SPEAKER_05 42:35

Yeah. And then he's got the bullet hole. Oh my god, bullet hole in your back. You should see the other guy. Exactly. Oh my god, so ridiculous.

SPEAKER_01 42:44

And then Miss Marble and and the nurse entered. This is I this is the time I marked down, not the one hour. Miss Marble and Nurse, they don't enter until 37 minutes into the movie. Because there's no need, because they're just I just watched in this movie going, this movie could completely exist without the two of them.

SPEAKER_03 43:01

Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:02

It might even be better without them. They they were completely unnecessary. But I guess because she was such a famous uh some she was such a known entity, Miss Marple. That you had to include her, I guess. Uh but Diamond, who's the old geezer? Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 43:20

So many classics.

SPEAKER_01 43:22

And then that, and then all of a sudden that weird voice, it's the mask. That creepy voice.

SPEAKER_05 43:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:29

And then he comes in, it means dinner is served. We have no gong.

SPEAKER_05 43:34

Um, and I'd like even the um the doorbell that was just somebody screaming.

SPEAKER_01 43:40

Oh, do you know who scream that was? Who actual scream that was?

SPEAKER_05 43:43

I couldn't tell you for a million bucks.

SPEAKER_01 43:45

That that is Faye Ray from the original King Kong.

SPEAKER_05 43:49

Yeah, I no way I would have known that.

SPEAKER_01 43:52

Yeah, I I I just happened to stumble upon it in trivia, but yeah, isn't that interesting? Yeah, exactly. And then and then Maggie Smith screamed. when she sees the room the the mouse and and and he goes oh that's a door no that was just that was just uh uh whatever uh miss that was just mr charleston she screams ah and some goes oh the doorbell and she goes no that was miss charleston yeah he mistaked her screams i mean there's just it's some of the jokes are just coming so hot and quick and fast and and and ones that would easily go off the rails or feel overdone or you're like ah we're going back to this one they just keep working somehow i yeah why but uh you know cast whatever just the overall vibe of it like you know that doorbell joke you know in the wrong hands that gets all really that could have been totally hackneyed yeah exact oh yeah so it's what it is man you just fall in love with this cast that you're like I'm on well let's go for this ride no matter what well yeah yeah yeah because I'm still not a hundred percent sure what happened at the end to be honest we're we're gonna get to that oh yeah but Peroni drinks the wine and also yeah yeah yeah it's not poison it was just a bad year okay okay it's it's that bad yeah because it was a bad year yeah it's so fucking so stupid but funny as hell and the way they lean into like the um the uh satire of all the different care the French people the British people you know it's just it's so great yeah and then honestly dude Alec sir Alec in his serving with the ladle serving empty I'm like this is so fucking stupid cool and then the best is the French dude gives him a spoon and goes here you try it and then he tries it he's like takes a bite and then he's like I'll be right back and like storms into the kitchen fires the chef and he's not even looking at her I was like is going on here yeah I just uh yeah it's it's so if uh this movie stone would probably be just I'd be laughing my ass out the whole time I might have to uh uh let you know how that goes after this maybe I'll fired you understand and he's shaking his finger and she's still sitting there doing nothing yeah oh my god it was great yeah and then when they stand up uh when when uh Charleston uh David Ivan back then we said let's stand up and to switch spots yep yep and then and the swords fall and he goes say save by the fact that I'm enormously well bred yeah yeah yeah um yeah which I didn't even fully get what that meant but I was like yeah all right um but yeah there's so many good moments and it was cool like obviously this led to um what's the big franchise now um the knives out series oh yeah which I've never seen yeah it's a knives out just could is completely this just less goofball yeah well you know what I mean I think this kind of opened the door for oh maybe all spoofs yeah this is this is predates airplane top secret what about um um oh my god what's the uh Christopher guest one the real um turn it up speakers go up to 11 spinal tap was this before I think this predates Spinal tap I I I'm trying to think of of anything that that might have been around this same time but I mean this is one of the the first ones that I can think of that's uh uh just an all-out spoof of a famous uh a famous genre of a thing that were very serious yeah you know like all these all these particular these were not goofball I mean uh the the the the thin man they were kind of silly they were kind of silly characters but everybody else who's very serious kind of like you know Sam Spade there was no goofing around with Sam Spade all of a sudden they're spoofing the seriousness of spans it's funny because you know who else spoofed Sam Spade right around this exact same time I'm oddly enough that I'm just it's just it's just dawning me right now is uh play it again Sam by Woody Allen which which which was which had to be night may have been might have been 1975 even 75 76 I don't know yeah so this is uh they're saying young Frankenstein blazing saddles yes that's what I'm saying Mel Brooks that's who I was thinking yeah yeah yeah yeah he got some in there too yeah this same time period uh but yeah play it again Sam uh did you ever see play it again Sam Woody Allen that that that led to a whole resurgence in popularity of Humphrey Bogart he had gone dormant for years yeah yeah it's Woody Allen and he's got this sort of alter ego that he talks to who's always a shadowy figure and it's and it's a guy playing Sam Spade. Here's how you should treat the ladies you know what I mean he goes to him for advice and it led to like a a resurgence in popularity for um for uh but anyhow we're back we're back to the room now this is one of my favorite moments of the whole movie again we have I have a lot of these little family the lights go out right the light this is this is getting to be around midnight so the lights go out oh this point is this no this is before we meet uh Truman Capone they're all just sitting around lights go out all of a sudden um uh Perot James Coco I smell something good god Franks and beans but then the lights are out this is my one of my favorite Maggie Maggie Smith Dickie don't you know how I get when you touch me there and then it's and then it's uh Peter Falk my hands are in my pocket or no uh um David Niven my hands are in my pocket Sam Diamond I'm afraid they're my pockets Dickie sorry about that Maggie Dickie behave yourself such a such a funny little yeah thing funny little thing man yeah hitting them all yeah but Dickie behave yourself and then the lights come up Truman appears Truman Capote yep and what an appearance what a all the lights and all that stuff it yeah it worked it worked great I thought it worked great yeah and they even commented they're like what an entrance and I I as I was literally thinking wow what an entrance for this guy yeah and I believe this is the first movie that the the uh director ever he was a TV guy he directed like episodes of rota and stuff like that yeah you know just a TV and then he got the chance to direct this and I believe he directed the the next one the uh the sequel the chief detective as well yeah I thought I thought he did a great job they built the they built this and this entire I mean I I guess there's a really big set they built it on the Columbia lot which is now the Sony lot uh over in Culver City so the entire thing was shot on on this giant big set that they built yeah I had never heard of the director and then I looked into him and I was like I I didn't know much about him at all. Yeah like work so yeah T just one of those steady TV guys you know oh yeah uh another favorite line uh goes off wait what goes off to when can't can't pronounce present prepositions and then I and when and he goes I'm number one spade goes you look like number two if you know what I mean now that's not the funniest line because that you know what I was when I was when when I was a little kid and I watched this or what whatever saw part of it I thought that was really funny when I when my dad told me what it meant. Right but but this was what I thought was funny. What what what does he mean when Maggie Smith goes what does he mean Kensington? The way she goes I'll tell you later it's disgusting the way she did it so real was just I she I I honestly think she might have been the most underrated actress in this whole thing. She was fucking perfect man. Yeah to play the damsel in distress you know who's just in love with Sans Spade and and you know the way she's dressed and that cheap cocktail look but she did it so well and and she played it real remember when when they're when they're driving in he sends her she goes back to get gas yeah yeah yeah and then he sends her back because why don't you tell me we needed oil too makes her walk all the way back yes oh yeah fucking hilarious man I also love the dude that uh would get super mad whenever um uh whenever the guy would forget to say the pronouns oh yeah Truman Capote yeah yeah yeah Capote would get mad at the um the other guy and it's like he doesn't speak the language like and he he just kept saying like say the pronouns you don't use the pronouns are articles yeah what's wrong with you yeah I just thought that was so funny too just kept bringing it up every time yeah yeah I mean it's kind of spoofing the Americanized the way back then that we would spoof the way you know Asians spoke. Yeah it still was funny and and and re and the reality is although it was a caricature I I don't think Peter Sellers went way over the top with his you know doing an Asian guy I thought it was very sort of realistic portrayal. Yeah I agree um I mean yeah offensive sure but you know oh yeah just just because it was not an Asian playing it but I it wasn't like he was making fun of their culture or acting so bizarrely goofy you know I thought I I I thought especially for a guy like Sellers who easily could go way over the top you know oh my god yeah yeah yeah um yeah no I thought it was I thought it was great but I just love that like say the pronouns it's not like the way he just kept riding them on it I thought and and Capone's going that's gonna be a murder and the old lady goes murder poo yes we're yes we're gonna have a lovely murder poo diamond why don't you push the why don't you push her wheelchair down the driveway we got business here guy doesn't give a fuck man oh let's get down to business I'm after a million bucks here uh uh yeah and then but yeah then oh dude I sorry to keep these moments they all happen one after the other again they truman leaves Capote leaves they all decide to to to hold hands now they're all sitting around the holding hands and Sam Diamond looks at the old nurse stop that stop it I said the nurse is giving the nurse is giving my my palm the finger the dirty old broad and then she just laughs yeah I have that one in here too oh man I thought that was so funny the way she laughed at that for having so little to do Estelle uh Warren the the old lady she was fucking perfect man yeah yep yep her little chuckles and that little face yeah there's just something hilarious about calling an older woman just the dirty old broad yeah and she it but the fact that that you actually in the movie she's actually is she actually is being naughty you know yeah stop it stop it I say oh my god fucking so dumb so dumb but it's just uh working all right yeah yeah I mean there's we can go along with all these little moments but but then okay that they get together that it they go out to the two guys uh they go out to the kitchen who was it who is it uh Niven no wait who goes out initially to the kitchen um what what part are we talking about here we're what they're when they're leaving the room and it's it's uh Perier uh Wang and Marple don't they go they go out to the kitchen right yeah to see what's going on yeah they're trying because like because uh Capote has now told them why they're all there right right right exactly yeah so then there's the murder yeah they find the they find the guy they get they they come back doors locked yep and and then uh they go get the key and now the the tux is there but he's not yeah that that was just kind of funny oh yeah I like that too here's the key you know and then they finally get in the room there's nobody there and then the moose is talking to them he goes voice come from cow on wall moose it's a moose you idiot yeah that was the other thing I like too they were so dumbfounded they were like wait they took the body but left the clothes now they took the clothes but left the body yeah it's just so what the fuck's going on here yeah exactly it's just like throw everything in there that you feel like Neil it's yeah there's no uh the word we won't say no to anything in this one you just exactly yeah uh opens bedroom door it uh sorry oh i i mean it's just it's just back and forth back and forth to the kitchen then they're back and then they're back and then I I thought it was funny when Sam Diamond and David Niven went out and they and they and then on the way back David Niven goes to the bathroom Peter Falk goes into the room there's nobody there he stands there opens the door to the bathroom it's the bedroom with the dog closes the door stands there opens the door again and David Niven I said I'd be out in a minute yeah take it easy man it's like that was a funny moment too yeah um and then the cat that sounded like a dog was an interesting oh way from the beginning yeah way in the beginning yeah oh don't mind it that's the cat yeah we got cat six and he was very upset about it and then he makes like a growl yeah oh that's great again slap sticky so meet murder passes no murder wang opens the door it's it's Twain Lionel Twain now he falls over dead yep and uh then they find the cook she's in a box that again here we go throw him whatever you feel like man we're yeah doesn't matter doesn't matter at this point yeah it's a mannequin no it's a dummy exactly so they adjourn to the drawing room and they all have and then they have all have dirt on each other yeah which was now I thought that was actually pretty cool yeah they all had they all knew something about each other they all had a relationship with Twain and all these it do and the funniest one of all that was was Tess Twain picked up San in a gay bar I was working on a case yeah every night for six months I was getting 50 bucks plus this I never did anything with a man I wouldn't do with a woman yeah exactly what does that mean like oh god that that that was just so funny man uh first butler and then they they all then they all then they all go to bed for the night yeah and he it survives the murder i another little quick aside uh the two Charlestons David Niven and Maggie Smith when they first go to their keep in mind they're you know spoiled rich people right martinis everywhere when they first go to their room it's all the cobwebs everywhere yep yep turns out it's just fake but they never bother to clean them now they're lying in bed with all the cobwebs everywhere they don't because they don't clean they just yeah yeah yeah just just sleeping in this this this bed with all that crap everywhere yeah so they all go to bed for the night each survives their particular murder attempt which are all you know is any one of those did you find any of those particularly funny I mean the scorpion one I liked but just because how it played out at the end yeah and the way they even even the way it played out while they were in bed is that a scorpion you know what I mean they just don't yeah yeah yeah um yeah and then later like oh it was a fake scorpion you're she's fine you know like we got I gotta get to the doctor no it was a fake scorpion yeah honey can we hurry it's a sub yeah those two those two are great together I love David Niven by the way I don't think he did a ton in this movie really uh David Niven I thought he might have been only because I know the actual thin man and and and and Powell was just so much more effervescent. Right uh he he you know David Niver was more like the demure James Bondian type of guy um they they weren't so as flirtatious in a goofy way as uh the as day as William Powell and Myrna Lloyd were way back. But Maggie Smith I just thought was just that upper crust English uh lady thrust into this ridiculous situation I thought Satchi was so perfect. Uh Niven was great. I just didn't think he was given much to do.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:35

Yeah um yeah I would agree with that too um but yeah I thought it was cool like they each had their own little thing on um yeah like what their murder was um the collapsing ceiling I was also like you know that was that was an interesting choice yeah um but yeah the poison gas the bomb yeah I thought it was cool I was like okay this is interesting I don't know the bomb turn turn around because I'm gonna cry and then you're you just you just hear him crying uh it's just such a funny moment yeah yeah um but yeah I was like okay here we go like now we got a little action you know but even like the action was done very funny and just slapsticky and and so goofball yeah exactly this is and so now we're out to the to the denouf I guess if you will now they all come in one at a time very good Mr.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:29

Wang and and oh there was another line just some of these quick lines that Neil Simon wrote when when when Wang first comes back into the room when he when you know we were just talking about when Wang initially went out to the kitchen found the butler dead they came he came back into the room and Diamond goes Wang where was you we was worried about you I mean just a bunch of you know I uh uh what is it called alliterations Wang where was you we was worried about you we was Wang where was you we were worried you know yeah yeah and he just the way he just tossed it out but anyhow now we're back towards the end Mr. Wang comes out and oh yes as you can see I can see so I see it's just and then he's got the other line he's like this man has no heartbeat if this continues he if this no pulse and no heartbeat yeah if condition doesn't change he's dead yes exactly and and like you said they deliver them very real for the movie they're in oh nobody's nobody's winking at the camera that's why it all is funny yeah yeah oh so now they're all now we have now we have the butler he's alive turns out and they're each coming in one one up each other with their own little stories yep and the funniest one did you have a favorite one of those um I thought they were all great i i did but what what what's yours dude perier when he comes in and he and he go and he you are lionel wain's sister when he when all of a sudden when alec guinness becomes a female you know yeah yeah how did you just the way he did it not not over the top and then he goes you were born with money fame respect everything you wanted except for beauty because let's be honest as a man you are barely passable but as a woman you are a dug yeah and then he goes that's your opinion big boy I thought that was so fucking funny you are a dug that's your opinion big boy this is fucking a year later he's Obi-Wan Kenobi yeah yeah exactly yeah crazy oh yeah then they all leave he removes the masks he removes the mask it's twain yep and then uh he goes off on oh no they haven't left yet he goes off on on on how all their books add late characters and plot twists towards the end and Neil Simon said that he used to read those books and it you know it it did tick him off like hey man you know how are we supposed to figure this out you're just you're just creating something at the end of your book you know just to give it an end yeah right yeah this is unsolvable it's not fun to drive yeah there's no way I could have known this you know just introducing these he goes your your dollar ninety five books will be selling for 12 cents yeah and and so they all leave and now uh driving off and then uh the funniest one for me when they're driving off now again this is you have to know this movie to get to understand that what he's spoofing here yeah when uh when when diamond sam diamond who you know remember he said he was an actor hi Sidney Loomis or whatever whatever I'm yeah I'm an actor you know and then they're in the car he goes so you really are Sam diamond yeah I was in disguise in disguise in disguise yeah and she goes so we'll probably never see each other again I'll be around if you need me all you gotta do is whistle and you know how to whistle don't you baby she goes of course okay you've ruined it yeah in the movie it's uh to have or have not I believe it's called um it's the first movie with Humphrey Bogart and Lauren Bacall it's what started them I believe that's where they met and that started their love affair and their on-screen and off-screen romance and the famous line is I believe she's smoking a cigarette up she goes if you ever ever need me just whistle you know how to whistle don't you just put your lips together and blow famous line and that's risque for back then this would have been this would have been uh 1940s late 40s so that's why he goes he's doing the same thing you know how to whistle don't you and she starts explaining that she knows how to whistle he goes okay you ruined it oh that's what they're spoofing right there yeah if you know that line then that that line then if you know the line from the original then that then that that line becomes twice as funny.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:59

Yeah because I Still thought it was hilarious, but without even getting the the like the actual joke. Wow, okay, cool.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:06

Yeah, yeah. It's a it's a it's a famous film noir-ish, whatever uh line from way back in the day.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:14

Okay. Learning all kinds of stuff on this one, and then what is it?

SPEAKER_01 1:06:18

Uh so there was no murder? Pop, so there was no murder. Yes, kill good weekend.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:25

Yeah, from my third adopted son. It's just the funniest shit to me ever, dude.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:31

Now, I don't know how I saw this, but I did see this. I don't know when or how, but I saw this that there was a deleted scene after they're all leaving. A car comes, they pass a car driving up towards the castle, and Wang, Wang and his son pass by the car. And in the car, it's an old, you know, 1920s vehicle. It's Sherlock Holmes and Watson. And Watson goes, Uh, excuse me, do you know where the Wayne mansion is? And the sun starts to go, Oh, don't eat. He goes, No, no, no, no, right up that way to the right. And then they drive off. And the and the son goes, Hey, why don't you tell him, Pop? He goes, let idiots find out for themselves.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:13

And apparently the cast didn't want that in there because it thought it made their characters look kind of foolish. You know, they kind of they thought they thought that scene kind of upstaged their characters, so they didn't want that that scene in it. And I can't disagree with them really, but uh that that is a deleted scene that was that never made the movie.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:33

I also liked that that's what they thought would make them look foolish. That really exactly they're like, all right, you guys are being ridiculous now with this shit. Exactly. Come on.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:47

Oh, another another funny thing just that I totally forgot. Well, you know, the entrance we didn't really talk about their entrances with the thing, the the falling sculptor coming down. Yeah, yeah. Uh the the we talked about the Faye Ray, the scream. It's uh let me see here. I have I have it in my notes. It's when um I'm trying to think of who it was that which one it was. I think it was when Diamond entered. Why don't you tell something like that? And he goes, or they somebody says it fell on my he was standing. He was I can't remember now, but anyhow, the line was because remember he kept drawing the he kept drawing the uh footprints. Yeah, he goes, it fell on my it fell on my thing while he was standing in uh Chinese footprints or something like that. There, I just how would you know it'd be Chinese footprints? Yeah, yeah. I I can't remember it's in my notes somewhere, but anyhow, it was one of those another one of those passing lines that you know just yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:45

I also in the beginning, um, with uh Sam Diamond and the Dame, they're like, Oh, he's I I heard he's got no pinkies. So what he's only got eight fingers? No, he's got ten fingers, just none of them are pinkies, and it's on the next scene. Like, that's they do such a good job of letting you know, like, okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:03

Oh, yeah, you better, guys, you better just toss any willingness suspension of belief. Better he out the door, yeah, yeah. Get it out of here, right off the bat.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:12

Yeah, and then one last one. Uh, I don't hear nothing. What do you hear? Double negative and a dog.

unknown 1:09:20

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:21

I don't hear nothing. Yeah, exactly. I do negative and a dog. I mean, that's just clever writing, right there. It really is.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:28

Yeah, it's just just just that's when you're going, okay. This is in the hands of a very clever uh wordsmith, which is my favorite kind of writing. Uh again, very Woody Allen-y to me. Yep. Um, like I said, I wonder if those two have ever like been. I wonder if they're friends. I wonder if they talk if they've ever commiserated, or yeah. It's interesting to me. Two New Yorkers, both from the same time frame, you know, uh both a Jewish, just very similar, similar yeah, uh guys. Um, but yeah, I've never heard anything about them being together. I'll have to look into that.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:02

Yeah, I'm sure like they're running in the same circles. Yeah, like who knows how well they got along, but they definitely had a they had a couple Manhattans together, I'm sure.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:13

You would think, yeah. All right, so any final notes or before before I ask you, what did you think of this movie? Now that we've gone through the now that we've gone through the cast and the jokes, what did you think of the movie overall?

SPEAKER_05 1:10:27

I thought it was outstanding, and I I I'm a big fan of not um doing any research before if I've never seen it. Um, I don't like to watch even for new movies. I try to not watch the trailer, could not agree more. It's so fun. Um, so I didn't look into anything about it. All I did was just put it on, so I knew absolutely nothing. And I thought it was outstanding. I I structurally, I was like, you know, like I thought it was very entertaining. There's like none of it makes any sense. I still didn't really fully understand the ending, but I don't care. Again, we've discussed this. I watch movies to be entertained. Um, I don't necessarily try to pick them apart or you know, like, well, this should have happened here, this happened here. So overall, I I thought it was a great find. I really, really enjoyed it.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:15

Wow, because you know, just because you're a screenwriter and stuff, and and and no, it did nothing made sense at the end. It's all it's almost like he did what he said everybody else did. Yeah, he just introduced all kinds of crap and didn't and didn't justify any of it.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:29

Yeah, and I love that. Like it broke so many rules, and then also there was like an added um, like obviously this could never get made now, which I also appreciated. Like, oh, this is very true to its time, like you were saying, it it's it's you know, offensive, but not over the top, you know, and not offensive for its time, which I think is also important, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 1:11:55

Like, yeah, you you can remove okay, whatever. I mean, you you can remove five lines, and and and if you're gonna get offended because he's not an Asian character, but the actual Charlie Chan was never played by an Asian character, so it's almost like they're spoofing that. But I again, I I I understand if somebody would not be like cool with that. That's I I I totally understand that too. But it's funny, I thought you were gonna be like, Okay, I mean, I like the characters, so but the movie overall, I thought you're gonna be like, not a fan. Because because it because it did not there, there was no real ending, you know, that made any kind of sense.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:31

But I actually thought that that totally worked for what had like for the movie itself, you know, like that's not a movie you're going into for like a solid resolution, some great character arcs, you know what I mean? Like, it's just who gives a shit. It was entertaining to be able to put that many unique and hilarious characters together, uh, and then on top of the cast, you know, and keep and keep it rolling and really not cheat any of the characters.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:59

Like everybody, every hat, everybody kind of had their shining little moment, yeah. Uh uh, you know, some dominate a little bit more than the others because their characters naturally do, uh, you know, a Sam Diamond's gonna dominate more than a Miss Marple, just the nature of the character.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:14

Sam Diamond's the shit, dude.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:18

Did he not fucking own that shit?

SPEAKER_05 1:13:20

There was like scenes where he was like it looked like he had a lazy eye, then there was another scene where it looked like he was cross-eyed. I was like, what the fuck is this guy?

SPEAKER_01 1:13:27

You know, he's you know he's got a glass eye, Peter Falk, right?

SPEAKER_05 1:13:29

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like just like the like today, they wouldn't they would kind of fix that, you know, they would do something about that, but you know, I just that was almost one of his, I don't say claims to fame.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:41

But have you ever seen uh Kevin Pollack does an impersonation to Peter Peter Falk? Yes, and he can actually do the eye, and it's part of the it's it's a really fun, but Peter Falk has always been open and and and he's always never tried to shy away or was embarrassed by it. I think it was in third, I think it was in I think it was three years old when he lost it.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:59

Damn, yeah, yeah. Like freak accident, or I can't remember.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:04

I think it might have been not an accident, I think it might have been like a disease or something like that. Yeah, yeah. What a career though. Yeah, what a career, Falk man. He played Colombo, I think, from 1968 to I believe 2002 in variations. Not not like it wasn't he would go there would be years where there would be none, you know, and it was and it was a it there was only like the series because they were 90 minutes and they were interspersed with other uh sort of movie of the week types. I think there was like six episodes per season when he played that he played that thing for a long ass time, dude.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:39

Incredible. I want to I'm I'm gonna go back. I I got a couple more 18s to get through. Um after that, I uh I'm gonna check out some uh Columbo because I could watch that dude. I could watch that dude all day. I just I just found him just great.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:53

Bro, I'm telling you, I just decided to go. How has I never seen Columbo? Let me watch one fucking hook, bro. I've already been one, two, three, and four seasons, you know, in like the last two months. So I'm I'm gonna be bummed when I run out. That's how bad it is.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:10

Is it uh what are they like 20-minute episodes, 20-30 minutes?

SPEAKER_01 1:15:13

90 hour hour and a half. Episodes? Each episode is an hour and a half. They were like movies of the week.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:19

Oh, oh, oh, oh, I don't think they're like little movies, man. Yeah, oh, I didn't even realize that. I thought it was a serialized show.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:27

No, no, they're they're like little movies, and and they were shot mostly around LA. And so seeing LA in the 1970s, I always find that fascinating too. Oh, yeah, seeing them driving down streets and stuff that you oh man, I fucking know that street right there. I've seen that before, you know. Yeah, in fact, there's actually a website, I haven't been on it yet, but I listened to some Columbo podcasts, some of them are really good, and uh they they there's a website. I have again, I haven't looked at it yet. I believe it's called the Columbo Files, where they try to they try to let you know where everything was shot. Where was this film, where was this done, how was this done. Okay. And there's a movie, there's a book out, a new book, actually. As bizarre as it sounds, I think it was released this year called Shooting Columbo by one of the guys. I don't know if he's a director or producer, but one of those guys. It's all about the shooting of Columbo, and I'm definitely going to buy that as soon as I get back in town. I already looked it up on Amazon, it's like 22 bucks.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:22

Yeah, damn.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:23

In other words, dude, I'm into Columbo.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:25

Yeah, dude, you are you are down the rabbit hole. I love it.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:29

And and by the way, if you like this character, Sam Smate, the chief detective, which I'm going to watch soon.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:34

Yeah, definitely let me know how that is because I could use a little more of uh of uh just this kind of movie, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:40

Yeah, right? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:41

Oh my god, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:43

Yeah, like we talked about with uh my cousin Vinny, just a fucking blast. Yeah, you know what I mean? Not everything had to make sense. Like my cousin, my cousin Vinny, everything made sense, obviously. This movie, nothing made sense. Who cares? It was just you're just along for this fun ride with these actors, these characters, and you know, and all kind of work. I will say that I thought, imagine if Neil Simon at the end of this all could have actually pulled off a fantastic ending as well. That actually made that actually made you go, oh my god, how did I miss this? And turn it into an actual on top of all that, an actual fantastic murder mystery on top of everything else. That that might have been like the icing on the cake, but again, that's just that's just nitpicking.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:30

Yeah, that yeah, for sure. Um, also check out um one of the glass onion movies. Um, I would be curious what you think of it because it's this, it's like verbatim. This just it, I mean, it's literally a dinner party. Who done it? Well, I mean, that there's very good characters, they're not nearly as goofball and wacky as this, but I'd be curious for your thoughts if you get around to it. How many are there? Oh, there I think there's only two, and they're both completely independent.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:58

Oh, okay. Glass Onion.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:59

I believe that's what it's called. Yeah, the Glass Onion.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:02

Okay. Uh I know the Beatles song. I wonder if it has anything to do with the Beatles song.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:06

No, it's called Knives Out.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:07

Oh, Knives Out, okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:08

Yeah, Knives Out, but one of them is called Glass Onion.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:11

Oh, okay, I got you. Yeah, yeah, no, I've heard about it. I need to watch for sure. You know me, man. New stuff is this when I can go watch a 1930s movie, I'm on board.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:21

Yeah, I I would just be curious because it's literally you can tell that they were like, Oh, let's just do like an update.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:27

So, okay, so uh do you have a do you have a um a grade, a letter grade for murder by death?

SPEAKER_05 1:18:33

Oh, I'm gonna I'm going in A. Okay, nice. I I mean, I again going in completely zero expectations, no clue, didn't know what the fuck was going on.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:44

I that's what I've that's why I was really more than any of our podcasts so far. I was like, man, I have no idea if you're gonna give this an A or an F. I really I really had no idea, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:54

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I give it an A. Just I mean, and then I didn't even realize how astounding the cast was, too. Like a lot of the people I hadn't heard of. I mean, uh, how can you how can you not? You know, I just thought it was incredible.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:06

This is one of those movies I got, but I'm with you. I'm giving it an A. And I'll and not only that, this is a movie that every couple years, I'll just sit down and go, I'm just gonna watch Murder by Death. It's a it's a breeze, 90 minutes of just having a great time.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:20

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, it's yeah. I I mean, this is definitely one I I will put back on in the background and just have and just I mean, just just chuckle at because it's it was very entertaining.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:31

I wish they had like a behind the scenes documentary on the whole make of this movie. Yeah, seeing the actors be I saw how they related off screen. Love to just see how these people all just got along such a powerhouse, you know.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:44

Yeah, and that was the other thing too. I couldn't find a whole ton like on YouTube or or like I'm curious like how like how this uh how popular this movie really is. Probably not very.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:57

Um I think it's forgotten this day and age. That's what I mean.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:00

Yeah, it's a shame. It's a shame. So good call, uh, bringing this one back because I would have never seen it.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:05

And for the record, it is free on YouTube. I don't know where you watch it, but it's free on YouTube.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:09

I watched it on YouTube, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:11

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I did. All right, man. So uh this is Essentially Movies Podcast, which means you are up next. Uh for to do to decide which movie we will review next.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:22

Yeah, so I was gonna do something else, but inspired by today, I'm gonna say we do uh walk the line. Oh, fuck yeah, man. I have not seen Walk the Line in so long. Um, by the way, that movie that uh is called Capote. That uh oh, it is called Capote, you're right. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Um, so fuck it. Let's do Walk the Line. We haven't done anything like biopic yet.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:46

I haven't seen it since it was out. Me neither. So that's definitely a revisit for me that I'm I'm totally into.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:53

Yeah, yeah. So we'll uh we'll tune in, tune in next month for uh a little Joaquin and Reese and uh and see how it holds up, huh?

SPEAKER_01 1:21:01

Absolutely. Uh again, you guys, if you like our podcast, please uh subscribe, leave us a review. Yeah, yeah. Uh we are doing this monthly because we travel and work so much, but we try to put our work into it. Leave us a re five-star review. Tell your friends about it. Hit us up on social media, Johnny Cardinal. You see my name right there. You can find me on all social media. Chris Wabell, same thing. Hit him up, and we will see you guys next month on a century of movies podcast. At some point, I think we can eat just get some of that goofy music for that podcast music, a century of movie podcast. And we are out. Yup.